The solution to this TPU problem was surprisingly simple!

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Lost In Tech

Lost In Tech

Жыл бұрын

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Chronically underextruding TPU ?? The reason might not be what you think it is! Watch and learn how I fixed super soft 70A TPU on the creality ender 3 S1 Plus and its sprite extruder, and how it applies to the neptune 3 pro, and probably just about every other printer to some extent. Or does it?
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@Christopher_Gibbons
@Christopher_Gibbons Жыл бұрын
For months now I have had this maddening problem where filament samples kept printing really well, but then when I bought more it kept failing. I thought polymaker was pulling a fast one in me. This explains so much.
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
Haha yes !
@aronseptianto8142
@aronseptianto8142 Жыл бұрын
maybe an even more overkill solution is to have an extra stepper motor to pre pull the filament so there's a perpetual slack
@johnnyvw804
@johnnyvw804 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking the same thing! We print NinjaFlex (85A) almost exclusively. Our CR-10 S5's have Microswiss direct extruders, and work well, but we decided to get more printers and went with the Creality CR-M4. Same issue as the video! We are about ready to return them, but I'm going to try some way of removing the pretension. We're looking at adding 8 printers to our farm and this may have made my life a little easier!
@survival_man7746
@survival_man7746 Жыл бұрын
Yeah like adding a one gear extruder behind that is plugged on the same cable and extrudes the same amount so the slack is kept the same lenght
@GrantSR
@GrantSR Жыл бұрын
That is exactly what I was going to say.
@Liberty4Ever
@Liberty4Ever 9 ай бұрын
I made the same comment in a bit more detail and then scrolled down to see your comment about adding a drive motor to create TPU filament slack above the 3D printer's extruder. I'd considered making a filament detensioner when trying to get TPU to print properly a few years ago. I sell a TPU 3D printed product, so I have a lot of experience printing TPU. I'm surprised there isn't an aftermarket product that is mounted between the filament run out sensor and the extruder to ensure there is no tension in the TPU filament. I mostly solved that problem by hanging the filament two feet above the printer and using smooth rollers so there is very little tension in the filament when it feeds straight down into the extruder. I recently upgraded to a Neptune 4 Pro. I didn't even consider 3D printers such as the Anycubic Kobra 2 that have a reverse Bowden tube, because that's going to cause problems when printing with TPU.
@Enjoymentboy
@Enjoymentboy 10 ай бұрын
I just wanted to thank you for your TPU videos They've helped me time everything in and my TPU printing game is strong now. Nice and smooth and super glossy. TPU ROCKS!!!!!!
@LoosiuFlying
@LoosiuFlying Жыл бұрын
I'm running custom direct drive Titan extruder with stock Ender 3 hotend via about 45 mm of Bowden from the nozzle to guts of the extruder. So far low tension and a sort of flexibles no issues. It looks like that short PTFE makes no issues or just the geometry of Titan makes it running nice. And quite speedy with good surface quality. In many cases thanks to You findings!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour Жыл бұрын
This video is AMAZING! Thanks for making it - at first sight it wouldn’t deserve such a lengthy one, but I truly enjoyed the journey 😊
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comments 😁👍👍
@christoskarantanis
@christoskarantanis Ай бұрын
This video is still helping people printing TPU after a year! Thank you very much!
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Ай бұрын
glad to help!
@spongecounter
@spongecounter Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Thank you. I print a fair amount of TPU. The easiest are Ninjatek Cheetah and Overture High Speed. For softer applications Polyflex 90A works well but I have to print much slower. After seeing this video I am looking forward to retrying the softer materials I have struggled with in the past. Thanks.
@robrdavis
@robrdavis 9 ай бұрын
I believe that i just stumbled onto the solution for a problem that I unknowingly ran into just today. I'll strip tpu off the spool and retry my print to see if the problem goes away. Thank you!
@matthewwain9958
@matthewwain9958 Жыл бұрын
I have wanted to make a pre-feed device for some time now with my delta printers. This is giving me more reason to do it.
@andrewut7ya511
@andrewut7ya511 Жыл бұрын
Im very glad i watched this. Just printing tpu 1st time on my new ender3 s1 plus. No issues yet but i didnt actually know about that tension screw, so if i do get an issue i know what im checking.
@_film_flashback
@_film_flashback Жыл бұрын
Great explanation thank you. I was about to buy a dual gear extruder for TPU without ever testing my current ender extruder which i've converted to DD using all original hardware.
@lindeleasley
@lindeleasley Жыл бұрын
I tried printing an object using Ninjaflex 85A, and got the same results you did, after successfully printing a temp tower and retraction tower. Good info and thanks! Special note, I had just taken it out of my filament dryer, probably didn't help the situation.
@Jack155Q4
@Jack155Q4 Жыл бұрын
So, this week I was writing a long post for your Discord on precisely this problem. Ninja flex on a 1KG real is heavy enough but then add the most bulky spool holder of any of the filaments I’ve come across and it leads to too much tension causing problems. Strange thing is that it is not a consistent problem. My next step in solving this will be to up the tension on the Hemera but unspooling has made the most difference to my under extrusion issues so far. Thanks for another great vid.
@marijuanas
@marijuanas Жыл бұрын
A lot of good findings here, thanks for sharing 😎
@deathtrooper5759
@deathtrooper5759 4 ай бұрын
After a month of continuous tests, I have been able to successfully print in TPU 60 on my Stock* Ender 3 S1 Pro, I did change the nozzle to a Creality brand 0.8mm nozzle that was supposed to have a much smoother and more polished channel compared to the normal brass nozzles. I was now able to have consistent pressures pushing forward to print but I do need to babysit my printer to ensure I always have filament slack to reduce any possible drag. I should post a vid on my findings. Thanks for the helpful tips Lost in Tech!
@3sotErik
@3sotErik Жыл бұрын
My buddy is dumping his 2 Ender-3 Pros & just got the S1. He loves his flexibles so I'm sure this vid will be helpful.
@Dystrackshun
@Dystrackshun Жыл бұрын
Decided to hop out of CNC Kitchens new video for this
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
😮you better hop back in after!
@Dystrackshun
@Dystrackshun Жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D conical slicing
@tomasgunnarsson2044
@tomasgunnarsson2044 Жыл бұрын
I did the same
@3sotErik
@3sotErik Жыл бұрын
Both vids were at the top of my feed. I came here 1st. On my way to CNC now
@TechieSewing
@TechieSewing Жыл бұрын
I haven't got to that fir video yet, I will but might not be today. It's longer too ;)
@Liberty4Ever
@Liberty4Ever 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your great observations that substantially increase the community knowledge on TPU printing. I sell a product that I 3D print from TPU 98 and I'm developing a TPU 95 version. I pull a foot of TPU filament off the reel when I start a new print to prevent the extruder from stretching the filament that could cause a slight under extrusion on the critical initial layers and have the extrusion variable set to compensate for filament stretch but that's difficult to adjust because the moving print head unreels filament when at the edge of the part's print envelope (under extruding during this process) and then prints from the slack filament the rest of the time. I recently upgraded to an Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro and I'm still experimenting and learning about TPU on this new extruder. Your observations were very useful in helping me understand what's happening although I think I had a good intuitive understanding of the problematic TPU extrusion based on a few years of manufacturing experience. I'll definitely try extruder pull out tests on a couple of durometers of TPU, and I'll weigh some test cubes with TPU printed off the reel versus TPU with slack filament above the extruder. I'd previously considered building a TPU detensioner that is essentially a driven gear and sensor just below the filament run out sensor that pulls the TPU off the reel to keep constant slack in the TPU as it feeds into the extruder. It may be time to revisit that project for printing softer TPU filaments. I long ago switched to hanging the reels a couple of feet above the printers and feeding the filament directly down into the extruder. That's the only way I could get TPU to print. I can't believe people try to feed TPU through a reverse Bowden tube. I didn't even consider 3D printers with a reverse Bowden tube such as the Anycubic Kobra 2 because I print a lot of TPU.
@michaelbrown-qe8cr
@michaelbrown-qe8cr Жыл бұрын
I have an old Fablicator FM1 that has a smooth bearing roller that swaps out when using TPU for this very reason. That printer has always excelled with TPU (even NinjaFlex) My Prusa's - I had to loosen the tension on the bondtech double gears, also switching to a .6mm nozzle did wonders. Prints flawless.
@TylerLL2112
@TylerLL2112 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff! I've only printed 95a TPU so far with the sprite and it prints as well as PLA in my experience. Good to note I may run into issues with the softer stuff. I appreciate the effort you put into this video.
@substratum3d
@substratum3d Жыл бұрын
Very interesting indeed. This makes me not feel so uncool for still running EZR extruders on half of my machines😁
@Dystrackshun
@Dystrackshun Жыл бұрын
Add this to what we learned from MirageC and it seems that dual gear direct drive isn't the golden gun we think it is
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
No, it absolutely isn't! And the prusa lines problem that mihai talked about was a dual gear thing too. Boo, down with dual gear!
@danfarrik
@danfarrik Жыл бұрын
I love your videos, man. Entertaining and educational. Cheers
@GraemeRobinson
@GraemeRobinson Жыл бұрын
thanks, helpful. I get this kind of under extraction on my S1 and this may be the reason.
@1fareast14
@1fareast14 Жыл бұрын
Love your tpu videos! you've covered the bowden worst-case, would you be interested in covering the 'new printer' worst case? Something like tpu with all metal hotend and oddly designed direct drive gearing?
@RegularOldDan
@RegularOldDan Жыл бұрын
I think I'll have to try the tug test with my Bondtech dual gears. I believe the spacing of the two hobbed channels is significantly closer on those than what you depict here. I've not had issues with TPU as low as 82A yet.
@livewiya
@livewiya Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting dilemma, since softer filaments seem to also tend to be hydroscopic. I do a little with TPU, but more so working with PVA, I run both out of a drybox and while there are rollers in the dry box, the drag is still noticeable.
@Jokuuna
@Jokuuna Жыл бұрын
I had a similar issue and fixed it with hanging the 3KG TPU 82A roll off a rod, and greasing the inside of the roll (where it touches the rod) with vaseline. Works perfectly now. ^^
@gabrielathero
@gabrielathero Жыл бұрын
Omg thank you! I also have an Ender 3S1 and i've noticed that exact problem with 85A TPU. I'll try that right away :D
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
Good luck, I'm sure it will work!
@gabrielathero
@gabrielathero Жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D It did :D I did a test where i would print a cylinder in vase mode, 20 layers with slacking filament, the next 20 without slack and a small weight on the spool (to simulate the filament sensor, which i had bypassed) and so on. The difference is clearly visible.
@edwardlane9628
@edwardlane9628 Жыл бұрын
I have had the same results needing to reduce resistance to get it to print using a single gear extruder. The dual gear extruder have worked better, but I have yet to test other flexible TPU materials. I have a longer LLK5 PRO for the single gear extruder, and a Sovol 4 3d printer with dual gear direct drive.
@sanketss84
@sanketss84 7 ай бұрын
super helpful, thank so much for sharing this
@berniewasserman265
@berniewasserman265 11 ай бұрын
found out the same thing. When using flexible filament you need to manually loosen the filament off the roll. Larger rolls have higher resistance than smaller rolls. I get great results by doing this. A pain, but necessary.
@philb2334
@philb2334 Жыл бұрын
My Sprite was too tight for TPU, it squashed it, got caught in the extrusion gears & made an almighty mess. I stripped it down & sorted that, adjusted the gears set to minimum pressure & it happened again. This time I squashed the spring with pliers so it's about 1 to 1.5mm shorter, now the adjustment will back off so there is no pressure on the filament. I have found the best setting for me is adjust until it touches the filament & then 1/2 a turn. Prints nicely now & still has plenty of pressure adjustment for the harder filaments. My spool holder is basically an H shape with 4 bearings for the spool to sit & roll on & for now, cable tied to the gantry top.
@twolaneblacktop5903
@twolaneblacktop5903 Жыл бұрын
PRUSA MK3s with SaintSmart TPU. Loosening one turn the tensioner seems to work. Also bypassing the MMU2 is imperative. Fil rol on top of the extruder with the standard PRUSA trays that came with the MMU2 and have ball bearings. Slack is not necessary except when loading
@BradClarke
@BradClarke Жыл бұрын
I recently upgraded my Ender-3 V2 and put a Sprite Pro extruder on it. This will come in handy when I go to use the TPU I'm getting for Christmas (no idea what rating it is). Also, "put cactus here" 🤣
@sierraecho884
@sierraecho884 Жыл бұрын
You always need to adjust your tension depending on the material you use. With PLA / PETG it´s just not noticeble at all you will be usually fine but as you can see here TPU is a different story. Also the dual gear extruder in general is not a great solution since one of the two gears will be always out of "sync" you will always get surface inconsistency with this style of mechanism. The forces in our 3D Printers are usually very small, so for most applications a direct drive single gear extrudder with a PTFE boden tube (non all metal hotend) will be the best technical solution for PLA / PETG / TPU especially TPU though.
@hellothere6627
@hellothere6627 Жыл бұрын
I have noticed on my direct drive extruder when printing with 95A TPU a brand new 1kg roll has slight under extrusion defects that self corrects as the roll is used up.
@dtibor5903
@dtibor5903 Жыл бұрын
For any tpu you need filament support with some bearing, even for 95A
@NickNick2024
@NickNick2024 Жыл бұрын
You want to minimize any drag between the spool and extruder. In addition to making the spool spin easily, adding a reverse Bowden tube (PTFE with a 3mm inner diameter) to guide the filament to the extruder will avoid it getting snagged on something.
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
3mm PTFE 👀 I should test that
@Dystrackshun
@Dystrackshun Жыл бұрын
I picked up some reverse bowden tube from Capricorn at ERRF. It's larger inside diameter
@rorykamminga8933
@rorykamminga8933 Жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D I've always heard you should use 3mm ID tube for reverse bowden, to minimise friction as much as possible (given it's not actually acting as a bowden tube)
@dak1st
@dak1st Жыл бұрын
Reverse bowden tube can actually make things worse in this aspect. If you run a reverse bowden tube, you effectively make the distance between the spool and the hotend contstant. If you don't the distance changes with the print head location. This means, whenever the print head moves away from the spool, it will jerk on the fliament, releasing more filament from the spool than necessary, which loosens the tension after the jerk. Since the jerk is strong enough to overcome static friction (and it's also very short), you will have a lot less friction in the system in total. Also, a reverse bowden tube adds friction (even one with 3mm inner diameter), so if you are trying to reduce (static) friction, a reverse bowden tube is the wrong tool.
@hayden9944
@hayden9944 Жыл бұрын
Obviously when there is tension in the soft TPU the diameter reduces - thus no grip. The natural “grip” you will get from rubber against a clean metal bearing should be very good as long as you can really tension that filament
@lordbinky
@lordbinky Жыл бұрын
I use a paint roller with bearings from the hardware store as the base for my spool holder. Maintaining a desirable level of tension for stiffer plastics is the bigger problem for that thing.
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
That's a good solution!
@lordbinky
@lordbinky Жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D Next time your in a hardware store, just give the green Wooster brand paint roller a feel. It's smoother than quite a few of the VXB bearing based print your own spool designs I tried when loaded and I spent less on that then the bearings. The only problem are those spools with the tiny 3/4in center holes.
@JohnsonArmsProps
@JohnsonArmsProps 3 ай бұрын
Could the roll spin on really good bearings to lower the resistance? Using opposing magnets might be cool to totally remove the resistance.
@emulator7503
@emulator7503 Жыл бұрын
I have same issue. I use 3mm id bowden tube to feed filament to my direct drive extruder on my diy core XY. Decided to try TPU for the first time after printing exclusively PETG for 2 years and my TPU first try failed because of friction in bowden tube. now i have to design new spool holder to feed filament without restriction
@FedericoPorta
@FedericoPorta Жыл бұрын
Wow finally someone that has my exact problem! It's been months of stress and tests and i finally came to this video. The point on the sprite extruder of the s1 is that even at full tightness it doesn't grip well TPU 85A or less. I upgraded to a full metal heatbreak and i use a smooth spool holder (bypassing the filament sensor obviously) but it seems like i can't go faster than 20 mm/s and i can't push retraction over 2 mm, wich is absurd. Even with theese settings my prints are far from great. Do you suggest replacing one of the extruder gears? What is the real solution to this? Is the sprite extruder bad at printing TPU and i can't do anything about it? That would be actually funny since i bought the S1 to print TPU. If you have an answer to this please tell me 'cause i'm out of hope right now.
@DavidMulligan
@DavidMulligan Жыл бұрын
I wonder if a second extruder set up just to feed the filament from the spool would help. Better yet would be some way to measure tension on the feed filament to make sure it's always slightly slack.
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
That's actually a fascinating idea
@frankb5728
@frankb5728 Жыл бұрын
I've been meaning to build a better spool holder, I currently have my spools in a dry box next to the printer, it's on rollers and rolls fine but the filament needs to travel through the filament detector and across the frame and that's really not ideal. When I was printing TPU I just let the spool on its side on the desk next to my printer, it basically unspooled itself without any issue. It doesn't work with PLA or PETG but I don't have issue with those, at least the issues aren't as severe. I did print a hanging filament spool holder with bearing but there's very little friction, it turns out you want a little friction because the whole spool basically ran out.
@dankilmer9070
@dankilmer9070 Жыл бұрын
Very good ser!
@poepflater
@poepflater 5 ай бұрын
I think slapping a small fan on the extruder will cool down the filament a bit and make it less like hot taffee. I alsways print new cores for my spools so they sit absolutely centered on the support and roll smooth as silk.
@UDimwit
@UDimwit Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jeremyglover5541
@jeremyglover5541 Жыл бұрын
I would hope that you do test it (that single gear actually is better than dual gear with tpu) at some point, because you spent 2 videos ive seen inferring it.
@billallen6109
@billallen6109 Жыл бұрын
Also if you have tension before the extruder, wouldn't you will be pulling through material that is less than 1.75mm because it will be stretched
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
yes I mentioned that, and absolutely the case 👍
@TheItalianPerfection
@TheItalianPerfection Жыл бұрын
Have you used the LGX Lite? It’s been on my Ender 3 Pro since June of this year. In DD setup it flys through 65A TPU (CoexFlex brand). Could be an interesting video!
@danko6582
@danko6582 Жыл бұрын
OH! PULL THE FILAMENT OFF THE SPOOL. That makes sense. Especially as I dried my Filamentum 98A in a dessicator and the filament seems to want to stick to itself and takes more effort to pull off the reel.
@CarkeekW
@CarkeekW Ай бұрын
if the gears were larger diameter it would allow a larger contact patch which may well solve this issue , im obviously talking a new design from the gears out but probably a better all round unit
@TheBoredus
@TheBoredus Жыл бұрын
I thought when I saw the video start.... I wonder if he rolls it off the spool! I spent days trying to work this out on my Orbiter2 extruders using Overture TPU - on Cardboard spools. I kept getting what I thought were clogs on 2 different printers. Only by pure accident I noticed excess filament I rolled off printing just fine, then as soon as it went taught and had to pull on the spool it had under extrusion again.
@TechieSewing
@TechieSewing Жыл бұрын
Yay, the notebook is back! So does whichever printer you've used for soft TPU video have a spool holder with bearings, and no filament sensor? Wasn't it SKREnder?
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
skrender has the holder right above, but it was nowhere near as neat as this, I previously didnt think you could FDM 70A this neatly
@PatrickSmith-zg9xl
@PatrickSmith-zg9xl Жыл бұрын
this is exactly the results I had. I printed 95a with no issues at all.. but determined my part needed softer filament... so I movedd to 85a and started getting under extrusion. Trial and error showed that if I pulled the filament out and bypassed the filament sensor I could get good prints. Even after switching to a spool holder that had bearings, it was still a problem. The mass of the spool was enough to cause the under extrusion. Problem is that with a 12 hour print I needed to just sit there and pull out filament.. not going to happen. I am still searching for a solution, going to try a small reallly light spool on the bearing holder next.
@ivancrespo9100
@ivancrespo9100 Жыл бұрын
THANKS SOLVED ON SPRITE PRO NEW SUB
@pinsen9250
@pinsen9250 Жыл бұрын
Hey! Thank you for the very detailed information exept for one: Which filament did you use exactly?! Link would be much appreciated ;)
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
Oh - haha, it's recreus filaflex 70A.
@SilvaSRT4
@SilvaSRT4 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if this is why the Flexion was soo good for flexible filaments.
@Mobile_Dom
@Mobile_Dom Жыл бұрын
I mean I've been using the E3D hobb goblin on my Neptune 2 and the Bowden extruder design from Tech2c for over a year, it's one of the best TPU printers I have
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
that's a good name for an extruder, I get the reference haha
@Mobile_Dom
@Mobile_Dom Жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D actually the hobb goblin is just the drive gear, they're about a fiver mate, go get one :P
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
I'll buy anything from E3D that's only a fiver!😂
@prankstersboneworks
@prankstersboneworks Жыл бұрын
here's a rough theory of the moment..... if your mainboard has an unused driver, you could add another stepper motor to the spool holder. something like adding a rubber wheel to it in the middle to turn the spool in increments. you'd have to figure out gcode to rotate the spool for every x amount of filament extruded. it'd likely look something like your screenshot of bearings in the spool holder from the vid. that should unload the tension from the filament before the extruder. not sure, but you might be able to piggy back the signal off the extruder circuit so that they both turn at the same time like a dual z. might work, might end up with a giant pile of unwound spool depending on gear ratio, wheel size and extrusion rate. let me know if you actually try it. i'm curious to see if it works.
@xenontesla122
@xenontesla122 Жыл бұрын
If the spool can still move with friction instead of being directly connected to the motor, you could probably get away with it moving more slowly.
@mitchio83
@mitchio83 Жыл бұрын
Or you could just add another tensioner/motor on the filament at the top.
@ValTek_Armory
@ValTek_Armory Жыл бұрын
Concave feeder gears are the best imo. better grip overall
@hmsmikey7540
@hmsmikey7540 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know gow to print tpu on entina2 printer
@gastonpares7266
@gastonpares7266 3 ай бұрын
I had this issue with pla, but sure its dirty inside the extruder
@tomasgunnarsson2044
@tomasgunnarsson2044 Жыл бұрын
I have micro swiss direc drive, it works Great with TPU. But I have the same problem with my TPU 60A. I think to build a motor on the spol to roll off filament at the same speed.
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
That would be really interesting, I hope if you get anywhere with it you keep me updated!
@tomasgunnarsson2044
@tomasgunnarsson2044 Жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D it becomes too complicated (for me) with a motor on the spool, because the speed changes the less thread there is on the spool. I'm going to start by making a ball bearing center for the spool to see if it is enough. Otherwise, I'm thinking of trying to combine the bowden and direct drive. however, I don't know if the electronics can handle it.. I know electricity, not electronics. I just want to be able to print TPU 60A easily.
@OrlanDave
@OrlanDave Жыл бұрын
Took me a few days to watch this, but very interesting. I have the regular S1 and I have super soft Ninja Flex, which doesn't print nicely, but I'll try this next time. Why bypass the runout sensor?
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
The runout sensor is a huge source of friction, and also hard to load. Best to bypass it, if you can't, theres an option of stuffing a piece of PLA in there.
@tooling_lee
@tooling_lee Жыл бұрын
Off topic, how to you like the screw driver? I was concerned it would not have enough torque... you seem to use it with no issues. Recommend?
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
it's more of an assisted driver than doing the work itself, you can drive and turn it. It's _okay_
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz Жыл бұрын
I suspect that MK8 and Wade geared/belted variants are the best extruders ever created and I don't know how we got where we got.
@kimmotoivanen
@kimmotoivanen Жыл бұрын
Why is the hobb so deep? Straight edges prevents varying extrusion if filament travels between sides, but still... Can't we have compact extruder with both (all) gears driven? Like OMG but closer to LGX in size
@julesadventures9174
@julesadventures9174 Жыл бұрын
I had this last year printing 70A filaflex. I solved it by using lithium grease on the stock mount. Just don't do what I did the first time and apply it with a spray. It does not aid bed adhesion.
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
Hahaha no, greasing the bed is probably not good 😂
@MrBaskins2010
@MrBaskins2010 Жыл бұрын
genius sir
@wargames43
@wargames43 Жыл бұрын
If i want to bypass the filament sensor you can just put a piece of filament in there so its always giving off a blue light
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
Yep
@EmoZhaeNan
@EmoZhaeNan 3 ай бұрын
Wow...I never think about this one....I´m having the same problem and stops coming out. I realise that there was something wrong with the tention on gears because incresing it was working for sometime and stops coming out again. I´m going to try removin that friction and post a coment. I´m using an Ender 5 S1 with Winkle Tenaflex maybe 90A.
@EmoZhaeNan
@EmoZhaeNan 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. Yes, it works with your solution.
@sergioherranz7795
@sergioherranz7795 Жыл бұрын
Is there any way of trying a dual motor extruder, one being the main extruder motor (situated at the extruder like a normal direct drive) and the other one just pulling filament from the roll (situated near the filament roll like a bowden one) mimicking the main extruder movement, so the tension generated by the extruder from pulling the filament is removed. In short, a printer with two motors for the extrusion system, one normal direct drive extruder and the another motor as a bowden extruder that work with exactly the same movements.
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
yes - it should work in fact, perhaps with some attention to how to allow it to slip if it doesnt sync exactly
@christian-zf3di
@christian-zf3di Жыл бұрын
Do you think the bowden hotends print TPU better than all metal hotends? my all metal direct drive setup is having issues with friction in the hotend but a sprite bowden setup might fix that
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
fundamentally no, I use a fair few all metal hotends that perform adequately for 95A TPU, at much better than bowden speeds. Unless you're printing 70A then I would try to fix your metal DD, or try another heat break maybe.
@christian-zf3di
@christian-zf3di Жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D yeah I’ve been printing with Filaflex 70a, which was going somewhat smoothly. until I swapped from my stock ender 3 hotend+ a micro Swiss heatbreak and cooling block to an e3d heating block+ micro Swiss heatbreak and cooling block. I might have to swap both the heat break and the cooling block though because I can’t seam to separate them. Another weird thing I’ve encountered is that my temps need to be much higher to print since I swapped to the e3d themrisistor, but I probably just need to change the values of the thermisistor resistance table in the firmware.
@viktorotvos3582
@viktorotvos3582 9 ай бұрын
At 8:54 in the video, you can see that the wheels are closer together. How did you achieve this?
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D 9 ай бұрын
I don't think so - it could be variance in the teeth, but yeah you can't achieve that, it's determined by the hardware. I suspect they are just not that well made and not perfectly round.
@p_k_3pdk986
@p_k_3pdk986 Жыл бұрын
Thats why I like the old Titan Extruder 🙂
@kimmotoivanen
@kimmotoivanen Жыл бұрын
The real (or accurate clone) one with hobbed gear and stupid arm or clone with straight gear and arm with bearing?
@p_k_3pdk986
@p_k_3pdk986 Жыл бұрын
Actually, the Anycubic Clone was or is really good. Even on a large Delta i was able to print TPU 👍😊.
@802Garage
@802Garage Жыл бұрын
"Also what I'm saying here is entirely irrelevant for subtitles. How about this instead: 🐇." Hahaha welcome to the Matrix, man!
@kamilhorvat8290
@kamilhorvat8290 Жыл бұрын
do I get cactus as a present with my order to PcbWay?
@janzwiebel8518
@janzwiebel8518 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried the Omniadrop Extruder for printing flexibles? In my opinion, it beats every other extruder out there!
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
I saw it at TCT but I've not got my hands on one yet
@janzwiebel8518
@janzwiebel8518 Жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D Get in touch with Max from Dropeffect. It's definitely a blast printing with one of them!
@alttabby3633
@alttabby3633 Жыл бұрын
That thing looks awesome, thx for the heads up!
@powbud
@powbud Жыл бұрын
Have been printing a bunch with 85A TPU on my Ender S1 without problems.
@FedericoPorta
@FedericoPorta Жыл бұрын
what are your settings? i'm having a real hard time
@powbud
@powbud Жыл бұрын
@@FedericoPorta super slow, 0% fan
@conantur9897
@conantur9897 Жыл бұрын
What brand TPU are you using? And have you tried printing the 70A on Bowden?
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
See the video before this one 👍
@DIYToPen
@DIYToPen Жыл бұрын
What's with the rectangle drawn around the print ? Seems superfluous
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
It's to purge the nozzle
@DIYToPen
@DIYToPen Жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D oh right, my printer just does a single line out of the way
@sammy_1_1
@sammy_1_1 Жыл бұрын
How would you say the Sprite compares to the Microswiss NG?
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
I've not used it, opinions seem mixed on microswiss
@aarongruenberg9800
@aarongruenberg9800 Жыл бұрын
Bondtech lgx ff. G10 build plate. Tpu perfection....
@THERE.IS.NO.DEATH.
@THERE.IS.NO.DEATH. 10 ай бұрын
I am now printing decent 95A TPU filament with ball bearing filament holder, ball bearing filament feeder, 30 mm/s outer layer, 3mm/s retraction, 10mm/s first layer, 220 C extruder 60 C bed my cheap/trusty good ol' Ender 3! Thank you for the knowledge 🧠
@pintokitkat
@pintokitkat Жыл бұрын
3:07 surely that the minimum spacing not the maximum. It would be the maximum grab.
@nutzy99ify
@nutzy99ify Жыл бұрын
I did 75a with a ender 3 neo max and got a wolverine cowl at 102% in 11 days .04 nozzle I couldn't di 95a it kept messing up. Just a Capricorn.
@derekfarealz
@derekfarealz Жыл бұрын
do the single gear dd extruder video! do the single gear dd extruder video!
@kristophorchen7941
@kristophorchen7941 Жыл бұрын
he might have different definitions of simple in mind 😂
@yellovvcake
@yellovvcake Жыл бұрын
Give us the NEPTUNE 3 PRO review pleeaseee im waiting with my finger on the trigger
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
Oh, just buy it. Review will confirm that when it finally comes out, THIS WEEKEND I PROMISE! They might run out of stock so don't wait for me. Any questions, come ask me on discord.
@yellovvcake
@yellovvcake Жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D You've got a point about the stock, especially with elegoo no pressure, obviously hahaha
@yellovvcake
@yellovvcake Жыл бұрын
@@LostInTech3D btw love your style of vids and humor, never stop improving! PS: Got my anet a6 7 goggly eyes aswell, its an biblically accurate angel
@123bookra
@123bookra Жыл бұрын
Put sunrise extruder and all you're problems will fade
@VallGowrylo
@VallGowrylo Ай бұрын
To nie jest problem każdej wytłaczarki DD. To jest problem tej wytłaczarki. Mam 3 inne i używam "TPU 30" bez problemu z prędkością 30 mm/s.
@ruftime
@ruftime Жыл бұрын
Interesting! Never have a problem with any TPU on my Prusa, And actually run less pressure on the rollers than harder filaments….as recommended by Prusa….course it isn’t Bowden tube😎
@TechieSewing
@TechieSewing Жыл бұрын
Have you printed 70A TPU on it though? :)
@AlexSwavely
@AlexSwavely Жыл бұрын
The major take away here: Spreadsheets are creepy.
@alttabby3633
@alttabby3633 Жыл бұрын
Don't know about dumping on all dual gear extruders just because of this one. Those teeth are massively far apart at max tension. A few different designs out there that might work better than this one.
@LostInTech3D
@LostInTech3D Жыл бұрын
No doubt, but all the extruders I tried suffered to some extent. If you think about it, the problem is intrinsic to the design.
@jzytaruk
@jzytaruk 6 ай бұрын
hm.. just my monkey brain thinking.. what about an extruder with drive rollers? like a sleeve over the wheels.. or little spikes that pierce the tpu slightly, or one convex one concave? ever looked at the "Proper Extruder" from proper printing?
@masskiller9206
@masskiller9206 Жыл бұрын
the subtitles not matching the actual video content is incredibly annoying
@BL_Denni
@BL_Denni Жыл бұрын
guys buy a bambu lol
@antonkukoba3378
@antonkukoba3378 9 ай бұрын
such a complex explanation which doesn't make sense
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