The Sonic Art Direction Conundrum

[@ChannelPup]

Jesus Christ, you went HARD with this one. I think this will be the video that gets your channel rocketed up because it really is something unique and special...also the dancing goose in the wall is the best part.

[@mistersp3753]

If you were the one crashing through the wall in the first place, does that mean it's your pet goose?

[@Koko-cy4ff]

This is legitimately one of the best produced Sonic discussion videos I've seen. Keep it up, I can see your channel enjoying great success in the near future. I think you can build a pretty dedicated audience, big or small, with what you have.

[@prosecutorwalton]

Honestly, Tom? I think that mockup render looked FANTASTIC, It oozes that classic Adventure 1 style Uekawa art style brought into 3D modeling

[@Ninjago-News]

I love tyhesson hesse style

[@Nuh_Ozkartal]

I cannot stress enough how amazing your videos are. I love the new video style and you definitely deserve more recognition. Also: HEY TOPICS! XD

[@marocat4749]

Big enough, and nice focus wirth werrewolves for halloween. Its valid through a lot i probably crunch and rushed and not giving time, yes , and cool sonic shots and stuf could , like persona, could work . Hope more people come redirected from suris pup or the others, because its good.

[@ForbidObject5]

good enough

[@bluegigames]

wow the animation just got 100% better

[@surgeeo1406]

Thanks, you're the legend! Will try to rewatch, it's the kind of subject that has bothered me since the year 2000...

[@pakboimsal8498]

Reminds me of the odd1sout

[@sosoponk7085]

Honestly I just want yuji uekawa to do the covers in the future

[@dylanoshea5065]

You put too much effort into your videos man, just... Amazing. I can't look away from the screen without something happening every 5 seconds.

[@thelognerrator]

This is something that I have noticed for a while but Sonic Renders have just felt the same for a while, this video was great the editing is spot on as always, -totally not biased cuz of the TF2 Sfx.- But fr tho it's great and I totally agree with what you said I do hope they do some stuff you mentioned here.

[@JaydenXV]

Topics tom

[@treint6751]

i hope more people will see this video

[@Supermariorpg6]

I just don't understand why Sega is so scared of not making the series look dynamic. It annoys me of how much they play it safe these days.

[@spider13593]

You mean scared of making the series look dynamic

[@LateNightHalo]

This was a really produced video, if I can give any advice: I’d tone down the tangents a bit. The constant tangents and jokes slowed the video quite a bit

[@Ninjago-News]

I prefer the maina one

[@Legoluigi26]

I still find it funny that Sonic fans will overanalyze everything, putting hours of our lives into explaining everything about this series but then when Mario meets realistic humans and fights a Dark Souls dragon, everyone's like "haha this is so cool 😊"

[@simply_j9965]

I actually learned a lot from this video thx bro

[@Eldarin]

This video was outstanding!!! Fantastic job, a world of Garrys mod would be pretty awesome though ngl😏

[@pakboimsal8498]

Perhaps

[@brominers3597]

The new art is amazing love the work keep it up

[@DenYT1]

Great video, you do a great job of keeping it entertaining and your points are nice.

[@maas1208]

15:02 Wojak moment with Tyson Hesse

[@geb8659]

Lol, if Sonic feels inconsistent to you guys then don't even LOOK at the Crash Bandicoot series.

[@justsome500yearoldwithsmug2]

Finally someone other than me that kinda digs Forces artstyle other than green hill... forces green hill actually uses the same texture from lost worlds windy hill, you would think to fit forces artstle they would have chosen Gens version which is WAY more realistic but no...

[@djroscurro9859]

Yeah if there’s anything I actually loved from forces it’s the visuals. (Aside from Sonic’s lack of homing attack poses -_-)

[@chewybits3662]

I love the new style!!! Looks amazing!

[@Sonic_the_hedgedog]

Also still has the Tomtopics Subreddit. Not active though...

[@bigfishafro6343]

I like the new asthetic

[@Sonic_the_hedgedog]

Definitely agree

[@anotherjon6997]

Interesting video here. Definitely a lot of great points made in terms of achieving a more unified art direction. Though I think one element to be considered, albeit more on the design side, is the integration with aesthetic and level design. Using the example you did of Crisis City in Generations vs Sunset Heights in Forces, the former achieves better immersion as the level is designed with elements of a crumbling city in mind (lava spires to push down, crumbling architecture to navigate, fire pillars, etc.) The level geometry in Sunset Heights however could be replaced into any aesthetic and would make very little difference. Heck, the only stages I can really think of that feel designed to fit their context are Capital City (which is more due to Infinite's manipulations than anything else) and Sonic's Chemical Plant with the toxic liquid gushing down to slow Sonic. This is why I feel like Forces' as a game tends to be not very memorable as an experience; the art direction and level design feel so divorced from each other whereas, when looking at better 3D Sonic titles (SA2, Unleashed, Colors, etc.), the level themes and design go hand-in-hand from the bouncing cars and steep stairs in City Escape, to the marriage of industrialization and nature in Planet Wisp. And this is coming from someone who doesn't actually dislike Forces that much. Anyway, just thought it would be an interesting perspective to bring up.

[@pakboimsal8498]

I agree

[@corruptedteka]

There is so much effort put into this video I kind of want to cry. You've got passion, man. I mean you made concept art, a whole ass render !!! That was an awesome watch !

[@sonic95xd44]

Great video

[@nottoofast]

*GO BACK TO MOCAP* *WE NEED TO GO THERE AGAIN*

[@Pop-uq5wv]

Cool

[@jondrawz]

Great video man. This does bring attention to the fact that forced perspective comes into play into many fan renders of sonic you see online. This is probably what makes them appealing to us.

[@Magolor2011]

Your avatar need more love🤲💗🤲

[@Sonic_the_hedgedog]

Just want to say I love the artstyle. It is so great

[@toffsplace]

This vídeo is fucking amazing. The editing is professional level, even better than most giants of the site. The content is priceless and extremely well presented and demonstrated. While I think that your version of the Sonic pose doesn't really make justice to the power of forced perspective, it definetly helped getting the point across to the audience and i can always apreciate that sort of investment. The comedy is amazing, normally i only laugh this hard when a video has every slur in the known dictionary or it's a tf2 gmod video but this actually made me laugh so much my mom came into my room to tell me to shut the fuck up. This is definetly something I'm sharing with friends, because, even if they're not interested in Sonic, this is valuable content none the less. Thank you for making this vídeo, it's incredible, and i can't wait to see what else you create in the future.

[@surgeeo1406]

Great, now you just need to shed off all the Sonicness out of you and be your own character, you're almost there! Like that cool guy Channel... Last name Pup.

[@chewybits3662]

I think his character is perfect the way it is!

[@surgeeo1406]

@@chewybits3662 I said that in jest, I agree. Amazing expressions in this one.

[@chewybits3662]

@@surgeeo1406 agreed! 😁

[@mistersp3753]

If the upcoming Sonic Rangers (or Frontiers? Just pick a name Sega!) is copying anything from Breath of the Wild, it should be art direction used in the environment. BOTW has a brilliantly detailed world with a realistic depth of field that makes it seem like you're actually moving around in a real place. Rangers could take this as a base model and play around with it to give it a unique style that fits Sonic, primarily in the use of exaggeration that goes with everything from character proportions to those oversized machines Eggman is always using. After all, exaggeration is where Sonic gets his style, dating all the way back to the original character model.

[@Sonic_the_hedgedog]

I like the new arstyle of yours. 👍👍🏻 It looks much smooth and PERFECT !

[@adzinco6916]

main takeaway from this video is that i want to eat a twister ice lolly also the quality of this video is great, probably your best one yet

[@alextoonz166]

Very entertaining, I'd like to see you make a indepth looks at sprites, dunno the topic but I'd love to see something regarding it.

[@chewybits3662]

Your channel is extremely underrated

[@Sonic_the_hedgedog]

Just commenting for the algorithm..

[@kylek.3689]

Cereal and water, my favorite!

[@tripplejaz]

Hey, someone in my stream told me to check it out and we watched it together! Very well edited and put together. I completely agree about the lack of art cohesion across the Sonic games. Froniters, unfortunately, looks like a continuation of that incoherence but ma man, you've got a bright future on KZbin and hopefully making art! Cheers!

[@ChiefTakinawa]

Please continue making content like this. This video was one of the best Sonic discussions I've seen in a LONG time.

[@valeriechern]

I personally enjoy SEGA's experiments with genres and art style. Especially their 2Ds like riders, team sonic racing, MoSTH

[@Shimakingdom]

Love your new art style

[@60sspider-man29]

“I love you” -Patrick Star

[@VirtuousAezon]

I love it

[@SiivkoiXD]

22:53 you're welcome :D

[@whitescarver]

Great video, couldn't agree more. I've always thought that Sonic's lack, or inconsistency of theming made him and his games feel so disconnected, that, and his setting. Unlike Mario he has no anchor, no Mushroom Kingdom, Sonic is like a traveling hobo with 20 of his closest friends in empty and lifeless renditions of real world locations instead of his own world where him and his friends aren't the only creatures like themselves among humans. Hopefully IDW's comics are something of a hint for the future of the series since they're far more connected to the games than Archie were, and they're building a pretty colorful world full of life, furry life.

[@PiggyPooPro]

NEW TOM VIDEO YAY

[@MarkerMurker]

Excellent video! Will be returning for more. I like the Sonic model you made, it most definitely has more personality.

[@Sonic_the_hedgedog]

Also great editing ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 5 stars

[@enter_boneman]

Only one word this video needed to hook me to this channel *” B E L L E N D “*

[@TheFrostedfirefly]

Fantastic video for the KZbin algorithm to actually give me for once. You portrayed all your points expertly and the detail and editing really made me feel how much you love this subject in particular. I will say one thing though: Try to cut down on the negativity and self-depreciation kicking at yourself. It's a little thing that can sometimes lead to the "haha, don't take me too seriously" shades in attempts to cushion the possible backlash but as someone who's very much guilty of doing it myself, I implore you to cut it down to the bare minimum of a small remark at the very least. In a very odd analogy, it's like smoking. You smoke because you realised it helps you relieve some of the stress, but then soon enough you figure out that smoking has actually become a huge contributor to your stress in the first place. Self-depreciation jokes and/or comments are an easy way to make yourself feel justified for going ahead with something you're unsure on. You keep doing them and everything you say sounds a little better because the self-depreciation means you aren't committed to sounding like you're making a challenge. However over time, without really realising, these comments aimed towards yourself can break down your confidence worse that what you already thought it was. It tells the people around you that you aren't happy with what you're capable of instead of the attitude of being open to improvement no matter the previous result, because getting better is only a guarantee without a hard number. It doesn't happen overnight. Much like I'm trying to do more of, try to cut down on the negative quips you aim at yourself. Not because "no one wants to hear it" but because you deserve better for yourself and being "open" is the world of difference and very much a big part of self-care. Hope to see your content again in the future. It'll be awesome.

[@leoclock]

Damn this is a very underrated channel

[@JMB_Knight]

I really do hope SEGA listens to u

[@mediamuncher6982]

This video was great. And I agree the art style should be better in the games like lost world art style and froce. Sonic the 2010 the art style sucked (besides unleashed,colors, and generations art style). Because they keep on using boring renders and the expression are blane. I hopefully they go the sonic boom and crash art style of expression. And for animation and art hopefully they go the mario odyssey,generations,and unleashed art style of relsticness/cartoony at the same time. And man your art style is great it reminds me of old sonic jp art from the 90's and early 2000's I really love it and also the jokes were amazing good job! P.s. I think they should do 2D cutscenes for now sonic us just more expressive then when his 2D and it's more cheap.

[@yellowduckgamedev]

I want a 2D sonic in the style of the mania animations.

[@Riley-ye3gf]

Amazing vid

[@Sonic_the_hedgedog]

There is too much Green hill in Sonic

[@Electrix21]

Hi

[@gamerprods124]

Great video! For a video that uses the word quite a bit you should've looked up how to spell exaggeration

[@reinaldomartinez13]

you have less than 2k subscribers, how the fuck did you have enough budget to create an incredible video without have wayyyy more recognition?

[@TomTopics]

magik

[@xCoMiXx]

That render you did is fantastic! There's something a bit strange about the irises, they're a bit too round and the angry brow is a bit too sharp but it all looks great and way better than the original one!

[@Jay_Hendrix]

Hey, I showed up. I think you've got good insights and editing skills.

[@SonicPAJ]

Your forced perspective model gave me real nostalgia in a way SEGA has been trying to give for the past decade.

[@Poedoco]

aw.. you shouldn’t be so hard on yourself, man :(

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

Yakuza's UI and screens are fierce and sleek, just like Yakuza USED to be. Since Japan has been sacking yakuza families, they're disorderly and it totally sucks for them. The organized crime has become disorganized, which is FAR worse.

[@purplehaze4942]

just use toei or adventure style

[@ChibiSteak]

Fin.

[@ClownMod]

when you talked about forced perspective i was waiting for you to admit its a anime thing but okay be a coward

[@Sonic_the_hedgedog]

LoL

[@FiremanSamBoy2008]

Am I the only one that thinks Mario Kart WII 2008 is better than DS?

[@mr.incognitoyt2235]

8:59 You did a better job with posing and lightning, compared to SEGA. Also, idk why but does it seem as if Sonic and the rest are running in mid-air on the Forces cover/background?

[@LOZFREAK1]

Channel pup? Nah I’m out 😂

[@Sprited]

You gotta have more confidence in your script, bro. Self deprecating humor is great, but I feel like you lean too hard on it here. Just say whatcha gotta say and improve from there.

[@Waterypeanutbutter]

I just now found out shadow the hedgehog came out the day I was born 💀