The Sound of the Bohairic Coptic language (Numbers, Greetings, Lord's Prayer & Birth of Jesus)

[@leonardoleo5740]

This language is the closest to ancient egyptian. So nice that it exist so we can know how they spoke

[@MrLantean]

It is the only language descended from Ancient Egyptian language. It survived because the Coptic Church preserves it as liturgical language. Many ancient languages survived as liturgical languages.

[@salud1541]

@@MrLantean God bless them.

[@di4791]

I cannot believe that we have the opportunity to hear a language that is related to the Ancient Egyptian language! Amazing! Thank you for this 😊

[@theshadow6528]

@Sir Lancelet yes but a modern development of it. Its thousands of years removedfrpm ancient egyptian try comparing old english even from just the 10th century to today. Eeek

[@danb7452]

@@faizanhashmi389 greek?? You know how Greek sounds like? Or you're just another brainwashed? Greeks rules egypt for centuries so of course some vocabs would influence the ancient Egyptian language. They adopted the alphabet but kept 7 letters from the ancient Egyptian alphabet's last form (Demotic) those letters are Ϣ Ϥ Ϧ Ϩ Ϫ Ⲋ Ϯ. Those letters you'll never find in any other alphabet. Next time you make a comment make sure you know history well and your source shouldn't be an illiterate sheikh

[@buarath9]

@@theshadow6528 But that's different

[@Ohiology]

It's a shame that there aren't many who are interested in learning the Coptic language. Maybe if Coptic Christians from Egypt learn this language and teach it to their offspring, then it may instill a sense of pride among Coptic Christians.

[@F.D.R48483]

very true

[@LetsGoGetThem]

Fun fact a copt from Egypt helped translate ancient texts, it wasn't just the Rosetta Stone.

[@internetuser5543]

This language is amazinggg the descedant of ancient Egyptian .As a greek l find fascinating the fact that they use a greek based alphabet and a lot of greek words too like parthenos,aggelos,monahos,mathitis and haire which by the way have the exactly same meanings in modern greek

[@uadhlagash7280]

The use of Greek is because of Alexander the Great. The Ptolemaic dynasty was a Hellenistic dynasty of Egypt. Egypt was essentially Hellenized.

[@internetuser5543]

Ευχαριστώ για τις πληροφορίες Παντελή.Επειδη σε άλλο σχόλιο έτυχε να πεις πως μιλας και κοπτικά γνωρίζεις να μου πεις πόσοι περίπου είναι οι άνθρωποι που ομιλουν καθομιλουμένα ή γενικά κοπτικά;

[@isaacadkins2344]

@Παντελής Κωτσιόπουλος Is it similar to ancient egyptian ? Greetings from a Berber

[@ghizlanetaibi9629]

well , Greek alphabet is based on Proto-Sinaitic alphabet wich is based on old Egyptian hieroglyphs , so after all they are using their own old alphbet

[@francisgriffith462]

Alexander the Great invaded Egypt and he made Koine Greek, which was the common language of that time (like how english is the common language today) the official language of egypt for quite some time. That's why ancient egyptian/coptic language has been highly influenced by Greek.

[@Howie262]

Echoes from the past. This was Such a treat to listen to. It sounds like nothing else and is intriguingly eerie.

[@Pahlevuni]

Andy, there was an older Coptic video a few years ago featuring a beautifulCoptic hymn. Would be so thankful if you can direct us where to find that hymn/soundrack. Thank you!

[@esther7211]

The orginal language for Egypt 🇪🇬❤️ We are coptic not arap

[@thecandlemaker1329]

Then why don't you speak your original language or adhere to your original religion?

[@FreshWholeMilk]

@@thecandlemaker1329 Because of Islamic colonialism obviously

[@ziyadpepe6291]

أين الجزية ياغلام؟.

[@FreshWholeMilk]

@Iwwy Iw They’re mostly just Arabized Copts

[@ryubelmont2259]

The Candlemaker maybe uhm... because they were imposed to use arabic? Like Mexico that was imposed to use Spanish. Even if there are more than one million people (close to 2 million) that still speak Nahuatl (the aztec language) but is still a minority in a country of 128 million people.

[@fodoristvan8517]

True religion of Egypt 👉 ✝️ greetings our Coptic christian brothers!

[@VLADPowder]

This is really cool to hear. It brings me joy that these old languages are preserved by devout peoples, May God keep them present for many more centuries.

[@angelika_munkastrap4634]

This was amazing, love it

[@الليتورجيةالقبطية]

kzbin.info/door/wTTInI3NWRxkuCTJBOFnFg

[@kalvon]

I know, but fun fact, this language is actually kinda dying(?) since the Egyptian Muslim tried to assimilated them but they still stayed strong

[@kalvon]

@@الليتورجيةالقبطية Hey, that's pretty cool, but I hope you can put subtitle in

[@beefusthemighty]

Definitely a little Greek mixed in there (alla, peirasmos, and so on) in the Biblical passages. But you can see the old Egyptian consonant clusters still preserved.

[@nikitaberejnoy4359]

A lot of languages have Greek words. In Russian it's like every 15th in my opinion

[@qaraqali5327]

The language has 2,000 Greek loan words

[@nietodelnegrogarka5886]

I used to listen a Coptic Song in this channel, but is not longer be here. I searched for it in KZbin but I didn't find it.

[@rogeramezquita5685]

Fascinating I hope some new generation revive this language in the future as lingua Franca

[@evandxvies]

I hope people can start learning this again as a spoken language

[@MrLantean]

There are classes in Egypt teaching the language to younger generation. To make Coptic a vernacular is challenging as the language has ceased being a vernacular for 400 years and its usage is limited as liturgical language of the Coptic Church. It lacks modern and contemporary words. Most likely that most new words will be derived from Arabic loanwords as the language is spoken by all Egyptians(Christians and Muslims). Arabic and Coptic are related as both are members of a family of languages known as Afroasiatic languages which has several branches. Arabic belongs to the Semitic branch while Coptic belongs to the Egyptian branch.

[@jackl.1759]

I notice that many of the greetings in this variety of coptic show a great deal of similarity to the Greek greeting Chairete.

[@ongkhuongduy3498]

Ptolemaic Egypt persists for 300 years. The two great civilization influenced each other to a great degree.

[@Laila-hl8dc]

@@hannahwalmer1124 because they INVADED and COLONISED Egypt forcefulky

[@mrmysticmoon1079]

@@Laila-hl8dc colonisation is the worst word you could of used. Colonisation is a term used for the Colonial period. The Greeks conquest of Egypt came way before imperialism. I’d prefer to say integrated their culture into ancient Egyptian culture, because unlike assimilation/“colonialism” the Egyptians kept lots of their culture, it’s just the Greeks introduced their philosophy, thinking and structure in regards to linguist, legal and political structure.

[@silentj1022]

i learned a lot from the description below. Amazing. thanks once again

[@garyd.crowley5890]

If I were Egyptian, no matter if I'm Coptic or not, I would learn that language. After all, it's the final evolution of the language of Pharaohs and the last living vestige of the best days of Egypt.

[@anthonymanderson7671]

The true language of egypt

[@bagusbaskoro2207]

Let's revive this language as spoken language

[@nikitaberejnoy4359]

Wdym? There is like 2 million of native speakers

[@cihesham]

@@nikitaberejnoy4359 There are, in fact, 0 native speakers :')

[@gutss8608]

@@cihesham don’t worry I’m part Egyptian and I’m going to study Coptic language

[@Mrv9019]

Final evolution of Egyptian language 👍

[@MrLantean]

The language ceased being a vernacular language since the 17th or 18th Centuries where Coptic Christians themselves spoke Arabic even among each other. It is preserved by the Coptic Church as the liturgical language. Currently there attempts to revive it as the vernacular language. Coptic lacks modern and contemporary terms as it ceased being a vernacular for 300 years or so. Any new words and terms will be most likely adopted from Arabic since it is the language spoken by all Egyptians(Christians and Muslims). Also Coptic and Arabic are related being members of Afroasiatic family of languages though Coptic belongs to the Egyptian branch while Arabic belongs to the Semitic branch.

[@charlieandersen4815]

@@MrLantean and why some People claim that coptic is still spoken in certain "poor" villages?

[@etorawa9367]

How far removed is *Coptic* from *Ancient* *Egyptian* ?

[@bronwynb151]

I’m no expert on the topic, just a fan, but try to think how different English or any language would be spoken about 4-5 thousand years ago. I think the Egyptian languages are a little more held together than Indo European languages. But I still think it would be near impossible to accurately understand ancient egyptian if you know Coptic, but you’d be able to hear similar roots and whatnot. Once again, just my speculation but I hope it gives you a little bit of an idea

[@peterg.j.macpherson2451]

given it uses greek text, probably by a lot.

[@iopvixens]

as far remove as modern indo-european language from PIE

[@rankoorovic7904]

The Coptic language is to ancient Egyptian language what Italian is to Latin-the closest modern descendent.

[@christianleifhold6013]

@@rankoorovic7904 Romanian is actually the closest to spoken Latin

[@noamrotstain3182]

The true native language of Egypt. Arabic is a colonial language.

[@tarekmegahed1423]

How would you define colonialism?

[@dolekanteel2178]

@@tarekmegahed1423 A group with a different language, culture and religion invading another and wiping its native culture.

[@kalvon]

@Dylan But, it does have linked with archaic language, they're some influence in there.

[@tayebizem3749]

Same in North Africa and berber languages

[@leokapoutsis9521]

@@motasemmk there’s nothing greek about this at all, except the alphabet. Not one word derives from Greek 😂

[@dimitrisps1997]

I can see a lot of Greek influence on Coptic.

[@mr.aleximer]

Or vice versa? They were a civilisation after Mesopotamia( Sumerans) ...

[@Laila-hl8dc]

@@mr.aleximer no this langauge came when Greeks and Romans invaded Egypt..

[@tims4654]

@@Laila-hl8dc No it didn't. Did you research before you posted? Even Wikipedia is more accurate, Google it.

[@adamvanek5868]

Where's the video with the Coptic chant please? It used to be on this channel but I cannot find it anymore...

[@Semamout]

There you go kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3TXl2Wea8mFadU

[@Semamout]

If you want some Beautiful christian coptic songs you can search about “the verses of the cymbals” on KZbin

[@doohandarmawan9404]

@@Semamout many thanks for you, i have a same problem as him, but you come and give the source, again, many thanks

[@Semamout]

@@doohandarmawan9404 no problem!

[@adamvanek5868]

@@Semamout Ah, great! Thank you very much! I shall check it, I love Coptic chants. :-)

[@ZeuzBluez]

Gee coptic numbers are similar to berber ones:iww 1(var:iwwn,igg,ijj), sen 2 etc

[@MrLantean]

Coptic language and Berber languages belong to a family of languages known as Afroasiatic. It has several branches which Berber languages is under the Berber branch while Coptic language is under Egyptian branch. The most well-known branch is the Semitic branch with its most famous members are Arabic and Hebrew. The Semitic Arabic is the most widely spoken Afroasiatic language with the estimation of over 300 million speakers.

[@user-hr9hy9it7q]

This sounds like the Egyptian Arabic dialect which, makes sense lol

[@kalvon]

Well, it had roots with the old greek romans and archaic, that's explain it a lot

[@omglollmao1235]

Does anyone know why Coptic always inserts a short 'e' sound that isn't written in front of words that start with two consecutive consonants? For example, the numbers 2 (e-snau), 4 (e-ftou), 5 (e-tiou) 8 (e-shmen) and 9 (e-psit) are all pronounced like this. This is very similar to Spanish words that start with s + another constant, which are always preceded by a short 'e' sound: escuela (school), especial (special), escribir (write), etc. Is this actually a feature of Afroasiatic languages or is this a result of the Greek influence on Coptic? I've never heard of another Afroasiatic language spoken like this. Also, Coptic followed the Koine Greek innovation of swapping the sound of the letter Beta with 'v', which in Ancient Greek was actually pronounced as 'b'. Does that mean all of the Coptic words with Beta in them originally had 'b' sounds instead of 'v' sounds?

[@martinokhalil4900]

It’s an Egyptian thing we still do the same in Egyptian Arabic I speak Greek fluently, Coptic fluently,Eg Arabic fluently and it’s a 100% an Egyptian feature

[@الليتورجيةالقبطية]

If the Jinkim ̀ comes on a consonant letter it sounds like "e" sound.

[@tarekmegahed1423]

To make a consonant cluster easier. All syllabic languages have this feature. Watch an arab trying to say the word "play" If he has a heavy accent he will either pronounce it e-blay or belay, because the /pl/ consonant cluster is hard to pronounce. In fact, arabic forbids consonant clusters except in very rare cases. So instead of the constant cluster you'd have two separate syllables, either "eb+lay" or "be+lay"

[@igorprigornev1922]

it is a great happiness that the language has survived to this day, even mixed with the Greek language. The Copts must revive their language and pass it on to the next generations not only in the church need to revive live communication

[@AndreS-ei8lw]

Egyptian has the softest and simple syllables compared to other Afro-Asiatic languages IMO

[@kalvon]

Hey guys, I'm a big fan of Coptic culture followed by Japanese and British culture. but right now I'm not talking about the Japanese culture nor british, I'm going to talk about the Coptic culture. Caution This comment is might be very long and not worthy spending on to, so if you hate reading long things, don't read this comment Hey, uhm, I actually doing a research about the Coptics people and oh boy some of em' is pretty deep I would say, but first, let's about the language... as you know, the Coptics are influences based on The Old Greek dialects and Ancient Egyptian language, and some of little bit the archaic language since they were based on the middle east and north Africa, they also adopt the Latin alphabet, not the common Latin one, it's the old Greeks alphabet(?) and were edited a little bit. okay, enough with the language, let's talk about the fun stuff, did you know that they have their own flag and coat of arms? well, they have one because of they were excluded in Egyptian flag and more into Arabic culture, since the Coptic is ancient so, they feel like the government doesn't want to show the heart of real Egyptian culture, before it was invaded by the Islamists Colonization in the dark age, okay, their flag is the St. Cross George flag but instead of red, they used blue and a coat of arms in the middle... uhmmm, I kinda forgot what the coat arms represent of so, imma just tell you guys what I remember about it, in the coat of arms, it has a cross in the top of the colour lines and I think it represent Christianity and Orthodox Coptic idk and I mostly forgot about the colours part but, I remember that the blue represent as the suffer that their ancestors had to through during the Islam Colonization, their ancestors were forced to tied their cross necklace on their neck until their faces turn blue and dead, that's why the choose blue... and like I said, I kinda forgot the rest of it but, you can look it up if you want to, there's a lot of information about em'on google which make more sense than what I'm saying here....

[@moonelf7598]

As a Coptic orthodox Christian I didn't know we had a flag :) i am glad some people remember the Coptic culture Love from kemet (Egypt)

[@zo9925]

on the old channel he had a video with Coptic music. Somebody can give me its title of this song?

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa961]

It was midnight prayers Coptic. I was also searching for it since I loved it, but I’m afraid it has been deleted.

[@kevincastillomorales4858]

@@Msciwoj-j4x please do

[@Koguma_ei]

i found the song! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXOYqWWEfd-riM0

[@Axyr]

@@Koguma_ei The channel got deleted. Lol xd The original audio is here: tasbeha.org/mp3/Praises/Midnight_Praises_(Sunday)/Abou_Fam_Chorus.html It's the tenth part.

[@masterspark9880]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3TXl2Wea8mFadU

[@sheeple5783]

“ouoh” OwO

[@jacksonamaral329]

very good. i enjoyed a lot.

[@idiohikhuare3079]

🙏🏾

[@thebonkera1221]

man 1: So who is it ? man 2 : 0:11

[@kalvon]

I don't get it

[@BreninCyhyr]

😂😂😂😂

[@BreninCyhyr]

@@kalvon it's sounds like he said "it's you"

[@reigenlucilfer6154]

@@kalvon it sounded like "its you"

[@dalubwikaan161]

Is this language still spoken? or it became only on liturgucal? | Lingva Viro

[@WalgreensZoneOfficial]

I have Coptic keyboard

[@eudial6284]

I'm going to learn coptic wish me luck :D

[@gula_rata]

Is this the same language of Pharaoh Akhenaten?

[@bagusanant5409]

Can u tell me what is the song tittle from the firs video that u made "coptic"

[@PartyWithSerhat]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3TXl2Wea8mFadU

[@bagusanant5409]

@Παντελής Κωτσιόπουλος thankyou 🙏🙏GBU

[@bagusanant5409]

@@PartyWithSerhat thankyou🙏🙏GBU

[@Axyr]

The original audio is here: tasbeha.org/mp3/Praises/Midnight_Praises_(Sunday)/Abou_Fam_Chorus.html It's the tenth part.

[@masterspark9880]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3TXl2Wea8mFadU

[@AnimeArchaeologist]

When will Age of Mythology use Coptic for the Egyptians?

[@promaja2]

The accent of this language reminds of Persian and Armenian

[@Criticalmass96]

It sounds very much like Greek. What happened to all the Afroasiatic pharyngeals and uvulars?

[@Laila-hl8dc]

It got destroyed by Greeks when they colonised Egypt.

[@LSSD1292]

@@Laila-hl8dc we didn't colonised egypt, Alexander the Great was welcomed in Egypt as a liberator from the Persians and was then crowned as a pharaoh by the Egyptians so stop spreading anti-greek propaganda

[@theshadow6528]

sounds very afroasiatic indeed

[@StepDownCameronLeeThePDF]

Hello

[@XxSoupPlutoOfficialxX]

Ⲥⲟⲣⲧⲓⲥ

[@mr.cyuree]

Ⲭⲉⲣⲉ ⲑⲟⲕ tuber!

[@borismedina8818]

The e that they pronounce before s when those are before a consonant reminds me of the same Spanish characteristic

[@tims4654]

There's a character that looks like an apostrophe on top of some consonants. This adds an "e" sound before it.

[@jorham1]

imagine egypt christian and coptic speaking...it would be great...thus language sounds very nice

[@Yocotastisco]

Un idioma muy interesante, que lástima que lo coptos solo lo usen por motivos litúrgicos.

[@ewakrzyzanowska3748]

O nas samych tekstów o coptic

[@esmeroys2448]

Ouai Snau Somt Ftou Tiou Soou Sasf Smen Psit Met

[@sithlordhibiscus9936]

Love it but my only problem is that alphabet is confusing as I know Russian (cyrillic) (along with Japanese) already and get confused all the time. Also I like Russian better than Greek and its descendents.

[@jormoria]

I can't phantom if Egypt had stayed a christian nation

[@olbiomoiros]

They can believe whatever they want. Religion is no problem. What is really sad here is that this language is extinct.

[@ongkhuongduy3498]

I wish they would go back to the old Egyptian god. That was a bad ass religion. Nothing about Abrahamic religions seem appealing to me. At least the Egyptian and Greek gods have characteristic of normal living being. They can be wise, righteous, lustful, vengeful, downright petty. The Abrahamic scripture basically says the god are infallible, or basically shut up and just believe what the book/prophet/imam/pope says. That really took a lot away from human faculty.

[@inquranwetrust6035]

@@ongkhuongduy3498 what does their religion have to do with you😭😭

[@Laila-hl8dc]

It was terrible... fights 24/7 between different Christian sects who weren’t even native to Egypt. The natives wanted the Greeks out of Egypt during this time.

[@misstoki]

It looks like that is s Greco-Bohairidic pronunciation, not old/late Coptic. I regret that the pronunciation reform in 19th century has destroyed the authenticity of Kemic language

[@_radwa]

Arabic more beautiful to me, but still Coptic is a holy language so love it and love Coptic people ❤️

[@cihesham]

@@sjm6417 Only exists as a liturgical language in Coptic churches.

[@ziyadpepe6291]

خزاعة.

[@god99thmiketri52]

This looks like greek and funishia