Coptic: The Final Ancient Egyptian Language

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ReligionForBreakfast

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@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast 2 жыл бұрын
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@Ggdivhjkjl
@Ggdivhjkjl 2 жыл бұрын
Where are the links you said would be in the description please?
@nathangibbons9492
@nathangibbons9492 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on Lilith?
@angela_merkeI
@angela_merkeI 2 жыл бұрын
I crave the sources you promised to put in the description!
@gabel8345
@gabel8345 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an interesting video. I'm surprised you didn't mention that the current Egyptian arabic dialect is heavily influenced by coptic and earlier Egyptian languages. This includes both vocabulary and grammar.
@yanleclerc160
@yanleclerc160 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathangibbons9492 q
@violetrose415
@violetrose415 2 жыл бұрын
I am a coptic christian from Egypt, thanks for bringing forth a cultural cornerstone of Copts of Egypt to the awareness of others. It fills my heart with peace to see part of my culture shown out with respect.
@sarantis1995
@sarantis1995 2 жыл бұрын
Peace 🕊 my friend, from 🇬🇷 Our nation state and the orthodox coptic community of Egypt have always stool for each other
@atamoura
@atamoura 2 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@nithin_5896
@nithin_5896 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarantis1995 I'm a Syriac Christian. Love to all my Middle Eastern as well as Orthodox Christian Brothers/Sisters worldwide, Coptic, Greek, Russian, Ukrainian, Armenian, everyone!
@sarantis1995
@sarantis1995 2 жыл бұрын
@@nithin_5896 If only we didn't live in the most bloodshed place of the world
@rebeccajarrett5130
@rebeccajarrett5130 2 жыл бұрын
I just did a DNA test and I have coptic egyptian DNA so I'm trying to learn what I can!!!
@wanderingkangaroo9908
@wanderingkangaroo9908 2 жыл бұрын
When I younger, I actually knew Coptic. My church still uses it. Very beautiful!
@stevenv6463
@stevenv6463 2 жыл бұрын
How did you learn? Were you just familiar with the texts they used liturgically or Coptic in general?
@Curvyblackbeauty
@Curvyblackbeauty 2 жыл бұрын
Knew? You forgot your language?
@sk1ppercat912
@sk1ppercat912 2 жыл бұрын
@@Curvyblackbeauty it happens I watched a video about a linguist who taught his baby Klingon just to see if he could. He only ever spoke to his baby in Klingon and his wife used English. The kid started babbling and then speaking some Klingon. Showing the same patterns as a child learning any other language. But once the kid realized no one else uses it they slowly stopped using it and know as a teen doesn’t remember any of it. So it’s definitely possible to forget a language
@Varphi_
@Varphi_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@sk1ppercat912 yeah it just happens all the time. like a lot of 2nd/3rd generation Americans who originally spoke a different language, like fpr me French, if you don’t keep speaking consistently you grow up and forget most of not all of it
@objectivecompleted-9474
@objectivecompleted-9474 Жыл бұрын
I knew omega to ti
@Figue-
@Figue- 2 жыл бұрын
As a student in Egyptology currently studying Coptic, I’m very pleasantly surprised by this video. It was very complementary to what we learn at the university :)
@starcapture3040
@starcapture3040 2 жыл бұрын
do you speak Arabic?
@Figue-
@Figue- 2 жыл бұрын
@@starcapture3040 unfortunately I don’t really yet, only basic words and expressions. However, I do speak ans read (modern) Hebrew and it does help with my Arabic ahah. Why ?
@starcapture3040
@starcapture3040 2 жыл бұрын
@@Figue- it dose help because they have common sounds but hirgalphis too have common sounds with Arabic learn to read it first nd everything else will b much easier for you. Egypt is top scammer country you can't survive it without learning how to read Arabic at least.
@jacobavners2394
@jacobavners2394 2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for partners to practice Coptic with for, like, ages! Any chance we can chat somewhere or perhaps even open a group for this subject?
@javierderivero9299
@javierderivero9299 2 жыл бұрын
I understand nobody can't talk or understand or talk old egyptyan...coptyc might have some similarity ...but not that close to old egyptian..is that true?
@emmy3335
@emmy3335 2 жыл бұрын
out of pure curiosity I took 2 semesters of coptic as an undergrad taught by a professor in our religion department who specialized in gnosticism. I was the only person in there who wasnt a grad student specializing in early christianity lol, but it was really cool and I learned a lot not just about the language but also from the texts she had us read
@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s generally a grad level course, for no good reason imo
@bethbartlett5692
@bethbartlett5692 2 жыл бұрын
What University? Did it happen to be Yale? (I've taken the History of the Era associated with New Testament. My interests are around the subject and I have one of my degrees in History. Dale Martin. Professor Emeritus, Yale taught the class. Was wonderful.
@emmy3335
@emmy3335 2 жыл бұрын
@@bethbartlett5692 @Beth Bartlett no it was Rice University, professor April DeConick who has actually been mentioned on this channel before, in the video on mandaeism xD
@treubuchet
@treubuchet 2 жыл бұрын
@@emmy3335 Wow! I have read a few of April's books.
@gravygraves5112
@gravygraves5112 4 ай бұрын
Did you know an Alexander Earl while you were there?​@@bethbartlett5692
@SomasAcademy
@SomasAcademy 2 жыл бұрын
Knowledge of the Coptic language also played a vital role in allowing early Egyptologists to figure out how to read Hieroglyphics. If anyone is interested in learning more, I have a series on my channel called "Decoding Hieroglyphs," and in Part 2 I talk about early Egyptologist Jean Francois Champollion's study of Coptic.
@In_Our_Timeline
@In_Our_Timeline 2 жыл бұрын
hi love your videos
@djehuti5571
@djehuti5571 2 жыл бұрын
unfortunately, a lot of people don't know the role of the egyptian priest father John (abouna yohana) in helping champollion in translating the Rosette stone
@stevenhe198911
@stevenhe198911 2 жыл бұрын
interesting
@princeali417
@princeali417 2 жыл бұрын
smoothest self promotion i have ever seen.
@SomasAcademy
@SomasAcademy 2 жыл бұрын
@@djehuti5571 Yes, dear old Yuhanna Chiftichi, I talk about him in my video on Champollion!
@nickscurvy8635
@nickscurvy8635 2 жыл бұрын
"this isn't even my final form!" - ancient demotic
@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast 2 жыл бұрын
Final boss with multiple stages.
@HexaDecimus
@HexaDecimus 2 жыл бұрын
@@vlc-cosplayer" Trying to create the mother of all languages here jack, can't fret over every syllable.
@checkoffgames
@checkoffgames 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReligionForBreakfast I like language videos.
@Duiker36
@Duiker36 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, modern English isn't its final form, either. 😉
@Mofi357
@Mofi357 2 жыл бұрын
ikr right i dont even know my last name yet till i get there.
@cookies.lover2469
@cookies.lover2469 Жыл бұрын
I am an Italian- Filipina that studied the coptic language for one semester in Germany 😅 My major was ancient cultures and I was free to choose one of the ancient languages available and I went for coptic. In our course were only 6 students. It was really exciting and fun to learn this language and attempting to read and write it. It felt like I was doing something sacred and magical. It is really sad that it is one of the dying languages. My professor dedicated her entire life on the subject of analyzing coptic ancient culture and it’s language. She told me that the university wanted to remove coptic language from the program because there were only few participants. But she said she was happy if only one person could learn it. I changed my major later to economics and politics but my coptic lesson was the most fun subject in my entire university time. I also kept all of the study papers and documents for grammar and vocabulary until now.
@MMy-bi1ev
@MMy-bi1ev Жыл бұрын
If you type Copts, Google For arts and culture, you will find that it says that the percentage is more than thirty percent, and this is the percentage that Christians say is their percentage. Even the Arab Wikipedia says that their percentage is ten to twenty and used the term Nassara He said he thought their percentage was ten percent and he was mocking their beliefs I am a religious man of Muslim origin. I say that it is impossible for the number of Christians in Egypt to be less than twenty percent. There is a monastery in Egypt in the month of the eighth that has eight million people attending it, and the vast majority of my Christian friends have not visited it. The largest governorate in southern Egypt, half of which is Christian. The second largest governorate in Upper Egypt, 40%. Statistics show that the area with the least Copts in Egypt is Mansoura, and 17% of the students in my college in Mansoura are Christians. The largest area in all of Cairo is Shubra and is inhabited by two million people, including a million and a half Christians
@BaxorUpGreat
@BaxorUpGreat Жыл бұрын
I am sorry that you gave it up.
@kanalisationerstellen
@kanalisationerstellen 10 ай бұрын
cant find many jobs with it@@BaxorUpGreat
@mrdoob7824
@mrdoob7824 9 ай бұрын
Is there any way you can send me your papers on coptic grammar and vocabulary to me? Plz reply to me to get in touch 🙏 🙏
@narmergeorge4122
@narmergeorge4122 Жыл бұрын
My husband speaks Coptic ,He teaches our children and they speak Coptic with him as a native language . We are Akhmimic Egyptians .
@M3lm-H
@M3lm-H Жыл бұрын
Greetings from El-Minya👏🏻💪🏻
@eliafeda4429
@eliafeda4429 7 ай бұрын
Can he teach me?
@edengilbertofficial
@edengilbertofficial 6 ай бұрын
I want to learn please
@Maiaspe
@Maiaspe 6 ай бұрын
I can teach you Sahidic. My response keeps failing to save, I had longer ones previously and I have grown tired of typing. If you would like to learn Sahidic Coptic, reply below and I will send you the link to my Ⲙⲁⲓ̈ⲁⲥⲡⲉ Coptic learning page.
@edengilbertofficial
@edengilbertofficial 6 ай бұрын
@@Maiaspe hi can you teach me
@michabetaro3306
@michabetaro3306 2 жыл бұрын
im egyptian and i really thank you for your effort and share with us 🇪🇬God bless you
@cemreomerayna463
@cemreomerayna463 2 жыл бұрын
I loved it! As an amateur linguist and translator I wish at least some classics departments included Coptic and Aramaic/Syriac in their curriculum considering how important languages they were in the late antiquity.
@JacquesMare
@JacquesMare 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder whether Duolingo will consider adding these languages. Maybe they can add ancient Greek and Hittite too....
@mikeharrison1868
@mikeharrison1868 2 жыл бұрын
Aramaic is still a living language...
@karlcarlsen9664
@karlcarlsen9664 2 жыл бұрын
They do.......somtimes......at least in germany are severale coptology degree courses for example in Münster.
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 Жыл бұрын
@@JacquesMare if they can add Klingon and High Valerion they can add Coptic
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeharrison1868 aye but it's still an important language in classical studies
@keronader94
@keronader94 2 жыл бұрын
As a Coptic Egyptian (coptic orthodox)got really excited when i saw the title!
@dojamouse9455
@dojamouse9455 2 жыл бұрын
I am Indonesian but i am so excited too, bcoz i love everything about coptic, Egypt and Egyptian christian 🤗🤗
@gringo3002
@gringo3002 Жыл бұрын
Oriental Orthodox?
@keronader94
@keronader94 Жыл бұрын
@@gringo3002 yes, but specifically Coptic Orthodox. There are multiple churches that fall under Oriental Orthodox umbrella.
@olekcholewa8171
@olekcholewa8171 10 ай бұрын
Please learn the language and don't let yourself get culturally genocided by Arabs.
@minadent
@minadent Жыл бұрын
I am Coptic and learned many new things about the Coptic language from your video. Thank you.
@markwagdyel-magrisy6620
@markwagdyel-magrisy6620 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this episode ❤️ Greetings from a Copt.
@jaca2899
@jaca2899 2 жыл бұрын
I WAS JUST BEGINNING TO GET OBSESSED WITH COPTIC THIS VERY SAME WEEK, AND THEN YOU JUST SO HAPPEN TO RELEASE THIS VIDEO! This is some sort of cosmic connection
@pluffer241
@pluffer241 Жыл бұрын
Calm down Everybody has synchronicities happen, nice aren't they :⁠-⁠)
@eliayacoub6913
@eliayacoub6913 2 жыл бұрын
As an Orthodox Christian Egyptian, I'm really grateful for you for making this video, ty❤️
@stevenv6463
@stevenv6463 2 жыл бұрын
When they use Coptic liturgically, you don't feel like you're missing out on intelligibility?
@xerusume
@xerusume 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenv6463 not really because you can understand most of the words with practice, plus there's usually translations side by side in English and Arabic
@oraetlabora1922
@oraetlabora1922 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenv6463 How?
@stevenv6463
@stevenv6463 2 жыл бұрын
@@oraetlabora1922 as in you would understand better in English, Arabic or whatever the local language is, no? You don't feel like you're missing out because you don't understand the language like your native language.
@oraetlabora1922
@oraetlabora1922 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenv6463 Yes, but studying another language is also possible. That is that about which philology is.
@BaronEurchild
@BaronEurchild 2 жыл бұрын
I have no doubt you are one of the wisest people to talk about these topics. Not because you know the most, but because you know enough to cite all of the research you have done. You are standing on the shoulders of giants and you acknowledge that, which is way wiser than most KZbin scholars.
@BaronEurchild
@BaronEurchild 2 жыл бұрын
Sidenote, I doubt it would be as detailed of an episode, but I would be interested to know a little bit more about old church Slavonic.
@beth7935
@beth7935 2 жыл бұрын
@@BaronEurchild Me too!
@minahimself2
@minahimself2 2 жыл бұрын
I am Coptic, and I think you did pretty well!
@VladVlad-ul1io
@VladVlad-ul1io 2 жыл бұрын
Can you speak it??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
@MrAllmightyCornholioz
@MrAllmightyCornholioz 2 жыл бұрын
RA BLESS YOUR PEOPLE
@dr.banoub9233
@dr.banoub9233 2 жыл бұрын
@𝐀𝐓𝐑𝐄𝐄𝐒 🇪🇬 Muslim Egyptians are less related to ancient Egyptians by 18% when compared to the ethnoreligious Copts, who by definition , practice endogamy. Muslims have no restrictions on whom to hybridize with.
@dr.banoub9233
@dr.banoub9233 2 жыл бұрын
@𝐀𝐓𝐑𝐄𝐄𝐒 🇪🇬 Anecdotal personal dna tests are not the same as peer reviewed scientific evidence. It remains a scientific fact that there is a strong Coptic genetic component which differentiates Copts as being the most closely related to their ancient Egyptian forebears due to the historical and cultural practice of endogamy .
@dr.banoub9233
@dr.banoub9233 2 жыл бұрын
@𝐀𝐓𝐑𝐄𝐄𝐒 🇪🇬 A 2015 study by Dobon et al. identified an ancestral autosomal component of West Eurasian origin that is common to many modern Afroasiatic-speaking populations in Northeast Africa. Known as the Coptic component, it peaks among Egyptian Copts who settled in Sudan over the past two centuries. Copts also formed a separated group in PCA, a close outlier to other Egyptians, Afroasiatic-speaking Northeast Africans and Middle East populations. The Coptic component evolved out of a main Northeast African and Middle Eastern ancestral component that is shared by other Egyptians and also found at high frequencies among other Afroasiatic-speaking populations in Northeast Africa (~70%). The scientists suggest that this points to a common origin for the general population of Egypt. They also associate the Coptic component with Ancient Egyptian ancestry, without the later Arabic influence that is present among other Egyptians, especially people of the Sinai.
@youssefelmasry95
@youssefelmasry95 2 жыл бұрын
I’m Egyptian and you nailed it 👌🏼 thank you 🙏🏼
@sorenaleksander2670
@sorenaleksander2670 2 жыл бұрын
We who love these channels know what Coptic is only very generally. This quick history has a lot of information packed into it, and is utterly fascinating!!! Just - GREAT!!! Cheers!
@MrCofet
@MrCofet 2 жыл бұрын
I don't comment much but I just want to personally thank you for your hard work in your dissemination of various topics.
@bfharb
@bfharb 6 ай бұрын
Claudius Labib is my grand uncle and I was always proud of his work. Very pleased he was mentioned in this video.
@Mo95793
@Mo95793 2 жыл бұрын
yes, finally this is something I wanted to learn about for so long!
@brianhenry7348
@brianhenry7348 2 жыл бұрын
(no relation, that I know of) Love your videos and this is no exception. You must hear it a lot that you do very well discussing topics academically but presenting the information accessibly. I've watched/read some stuff on the Urim and Thummim from sources I'm less trustful of (admittedly, that means what? Just that I haven't watched them before? still). Knowing essentially nothing about them (or, tangentially related, what, if any, significance there was to the selection of precious stones making the breastplate), I would LOVE to hear you speak on that subject. That's assuming there's even enough scholastically credited knowledge about them to make an entire video. In any case, thanks for your work.
@M4th3u54ndr4d3
@M4th3u54ndr4d3 2 жыл бұрын
I have syrian jewish ancestry. There are many explanations. They explained to me that Urim and Thumim were two carnelian stones in the clothes of our high priest. One more lighter and one more darker, they were used for answering questions. The name of God written in ancient letters would glow depending on the answer. You can read the description of the garments of the high priest made by Flavius Josephus, who was a priest in times of the destruction of Jerusalem in 1c.e. But in second temple period, the stones didnt glowed because of the sins of the people.
@M4th3u54ndr4d3
@M4th3u54ndr4d3 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry about my english
@brianhenry7348
@brianhenry7348 2 жыл бұрын
@@M4th3u54ndr4d3 Thanks. What you describe is what one of the videos described as the methodology, though it was also described by another as incorrect. Hence the confusion. Neither of these examples was the kind of video to cite their sources so it'd be nice to hear from ReligionForBreakfast who does.
@untitled9229
@untitled9229 2 жыл бұрын
This video is perfectly timed! I was just looking up the history of Coptic yesterday and this breaks things down so well!
@PauldeSwardt
@PauldeSwardt 2 жыл бұрын
Great content as usual. I was on a whirlwind US lead tour of Egypt last year (You yanks sure make hard work of vacation!) and was in Coptic Cairo starting with Saints Sergius and Bacchus Church (Abu Serga) but managed to miss my bucket list item of the Coptic museum. So I have an excuse to return for a more leisurely visit.
@manetho5134
@manetho5134 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great video about Egypt and it's ancient language🇪🇬 I myself an Egyptian have learned about things I never knew I am Muslim but I wish the the ancient Egyptian language becomes part of our school curriculum, we need to know atleast a little about this fascinating language our ancestors spoke
@aten5102
@aten5102 2 жыл бұрын
You're an Arab, you've never been a real Egyptian. Go research the Arab invasion.
@amrovine4029
@amrovine4029 2 жыл бұрын
@@jannguerrero Most Egyptian Muslims are not Arabs They may have mixed with Arabs but still generally closer to coptic Egyptians genetically nonetheless
@mansur8451
@mansur8451 2 жыл бұрын
No need. Egypt is an Arab-Muslim nation, part of Islamic civilization. Acknowledging Coptic history is fine, no needed to waste time teaching it in schools. Egypt needs to improve its teaching of math, physics, civic and political sciences, arts etc instead.
@drewc.2887
@drewc.2887 2 жыл бұрын
@@mansur8451 it’s not a waste of time to spend time on your ancestors language. People should be allowed to understand where their people came from.
@manetho5134
@manetho5134 2 жыл бұрын
@@jannguerrero I may have Arabic, Greek or Turkish ancestry, I can't say for sure, but what I know is that the majority of modern day Egyptians are the descendants of the same Egyptians that lived here 1000s of years ago, Egyptians were never annihilated, ethnically cleansed or genocided in any period in history, so their blood still lives in us
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 2 жыл бұрын
I think you need to add a short explanation that the Popes mentioned are Coptic Orthodox ones, as I bet many people especially from an American Protestant background would be unaware that there are other papal lines.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 2 жыл бұрын
There’s lots of…”Pope types” to quote the late great Christopher Hitchens.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 2 жыл бұрын
There’s lots of…”Pope types” to quote the late great Christopher Hitchens.
@gringo3002
@gringo3002 Жыл бұрын
So Oriental Orthodoxy has Popes?
@YuhannaMourad
@YuhannaMourad Жыл бұрын
​@@gringo3002Pope may just mean the Bishop of an Apostolic See.
@hyperion3145
@hyperion3145 10 ай бұрын
​@gringo3002 Also, "Pope" and "Patriarch" both mean "father" in Greek. The Patriarch of the Greek Eastern Orthodox is also sometimes called the "Pope and Patriarch of Alexandria."
@williamvanessen1604
@williamvanessen1604 2 жыл бұрын
Saw the upload notification as I was heating up some water to make my breakfast, perfect timing!
@Djynni
@Djynni 2 жыл бұрын
As a lay person interested in the origin of language I really appreciate this channel. Thanks for the content!
@namingisdifficult408
@namingisdifficult408 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are what inspired me to learn more about religion and now I'm a religious studies major.
@riverstone100
@riverstone100 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful presentation! So many beautiful manuscripts. Very informative. Thank you!
@MrFreezook
@MrFreezook 2 жыл бұрын
It's true, Egyptian Arabic Slang (Not the Classic one) Is full with Egyptian Egyptian (I don't know if I should call it coptic particularly)
@wastedxbusted
@wastedxbusted 2 жыл бұрын
@portable-cimbora but it directly descents from ancient Egyptian, if I’m not mistaken.
@giordy9013
@giordy9013 2 жыл бұрын
Scary, but satisfying enough, I was thinking about this today, I was watching a documentary about Egypt and started wondering about the origin of coptic
@ahmedelkhwaga2751
@ahmedelkhwaga2751 Жыл бұрын
Why
@block2.017
@block2.017 2 жыл бұрын
Old Church Slavonic and Coptic are two of the most underrated ancient languages
@zimriel
@zimriel 2 жыл бұрын
I would put in a good word for Eastern Syriac Nestorius is the most underrated saint
@vroomkaboom108
@vroomkaboom108 2 жыл бұрын
@@zimriel *most appropriately forgotten heretic
@ijnfrt
@ijnfrt 2 жыл бұрын
Old Church Slavonic is not an ancient language.
@jovan8691
@jovan8691 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ijnfrt Yep, medieval.
@The_Albanski
@The_Albanski Жыл бұрын
Old Church Slavonic is hardly underrated and hardly ancient
@sarahwatts7152
@sarahwatts7152 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great clarification of ancient Egyptian vs. Coptic. Excellent!
@wanderingkangaroo9908
@wanderingkangaroo9908 2 жыл бұрын
Coptic guy here! You did an amazing job
@JacquesMare
@JacquesMare 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do an interview with an academic who's fluent in Coptic that can maybe give us a first person perspective on the language? Has there been an improvement in the number of speakers? How well do they engage with the older forms of Coptic and are they optimistic that Coptic can make a comeback?
@samc8570
@samc8570 2 жыл бұрын
Coptic hasn't been spoken other than a liturgical language at least in a widespread way since the middle ages. There were reports of small communities of speakers even up to the early 20th century, though this would have been quite rare. But I know there's a course being taught in Jerusalem where they're teaching it like a spoken language.
@loveandmercy9664
@loveandmercy9664 2 жыл бұрын
If Hebrew can than why not? Aramaic is having a comeback.
@MRawash
@MRawash 2 жыл бұрын
check out this guy, he's part of the Coptic revivalist movement in Egypt, tho he makes very few videos in English (mostly aimed at Egyptians) kzbin.info
@Maoilios12
@Maoilios12 2 жыл бұрын
@@loveandmercy9664 Hebrew was useful for communication between Jews in Israel who spoke different native languages. Aramaic speakers are found in both Iraq and Turkey and speak different languages. Meanwhile, most Coptic Christians already Egyptian Arabic. There isn't the same need for Coptic in that case.
@nathanjohnwade2289
@nathanjohnwade2289 2 жыл бұрын
The best person to talk to is a monk.
@SobekLOTFC
@SobekLOTFC 2 жыл бұрын
Great job, Dr Henry 👏 Interesting- I wasn't aware there are so many loan works from Greek in the coptic language. We also need more videos focusing on Manicheanism- maybe interview Jason BeDuhn. The more I learn about them, the more fascinated I am; esp. their potential relation to, and reception of, some of the Nag Hammadi texts, i.e. Gospel of Thomas
@the_demiurg
@the_demiurg 2 жыл бұрын
This channel keeps getting better and better 😎 love the content
@rayhilchey6706
@rayhilchey6706 10 ай бұрын
Wow, there is so much information in this. I am overwhelmed. Well done sir.
@megmeg13
@megmeg13 2 жыл бұрын
this is such a cool video!! Thank you for making this, I’ve been thinking about getting into Coptic and this was really informative!
@sherifhanna
@sherifhanna Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@deniseeulert2503
@deniseeulert2503 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what algorithim popped this up but I'm glad it did. I have studies Biblical Greek, Koine, and this adds to some of the side material about different codices.
@jmpht854
@jmpht854 2 жыл бұрын
I used to visit Coptic Orthodox parishes and it was always interesting to see what efforts were being made to revive their ancestral language (or languages perhaps). Has there been an emphasis in the revival movement on learning one particular dialect/language - like the Bohairic used in the services - or are they working to revive several of the dialects/languages?
@gringo3002
@gringo3002 Жыл бұрын
Oriental Orthodox?
@Sancta.Aegyptus
@Sancta.Aegyptus Жыл бұрын
I am coptic christian from Egypt and this is a great video
@citationneeded-hy9iz
@citationneeded-hy9iz Жыл бұрын
Excellent work! You should come to Egypt and see the amazing sites attributed to the journey of the Holy Family, and the ancient monasteries which have been in continuous operation since 300AD.
@magnari81
@magnari81 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother is a Copt from Port Said! Love from Canada 🇨🇦
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 2 жыл бұрын
I remember a few years back there was a devastating attack on a Coptic Church in Egypt. By extremist of the Islamic variety.
@starcapture3040
@starcapture3040 2 жыл бұрын
these acts are lead by the secret police to create division to oppress political parties and the opposition coming from the Muslim majority and BTW Copts aren't angels they can be as scheming and propagandists for the Egyptian dictatorship
@shakalalalalkh1098
@shakalalalalkh1098 2 жыл бұрын
getting rid of those Islamists a$$holes in power may as well be the only good thing the modern regime did. They would've made Egypt into such a terror that ISIS would've been a Disneyland by comparison. to this day there still is abductions and executions against coptic christians, however the country is regaining control and is getting a lot safer
@zombieat
@zombieat 2 жыл бұрын
just one you heard of? lol there have been hundreds in the past decade.
@samihabdelmalik7146
@samihabdelmalik7146 2 жыл бұрын
Not only once since their Arabian conquer to us to this day but the church is alive by God's grace.
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 2 жыл бұрын
@@zombieat I mentioned that one attack in my comment. Feel free to list others.
@thesinfultictac5704
@thesinfultictac5704 2 жыл бұрын
A young Egyptian boy was using an old text to do spells and make charms. Eventually his stern Coptic Orthodox mother caught him in his wizardry and shamed him saying. I don't like you messing around with those texts, its Demotic!
@wmdkitty
@wmdkitty 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh, take my upvote.
@user-pv4mn6dn6d
@user-pv4mn6dn6d 2 жыл бұрын
While sorcery is not something practiced by Copts, it was widely practiced in rural Fellahin Egyptian villages.
@-amel-9896
@-amel-9896 Жыл бұрын
​@@user-pv4mn6dn6dunfortunate it's still practiced today in Egypt too... As an Egyptian I have heard so many cases of family being put under sorcery spells by others with harmful intentions... Some actual egyptologists higher them to break the spells from pharaonic antiquities as well, it's just very hidden off
@nectanbo
@nectanbo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this brilliant video - much love from a Copt 😁❤️👌🏼
@yousrymikhail9809
@yousrymikhail9809 2 жыл бұрын
Informative and a great contribution, thank you for the effort.
@shakalalalalkh1098
@shakalalalalkh1098 2 жыл бұрын
Ⲛⲟⲩϥⲣⲓ from a fellow Egyptian, currently studying coptic
@msba7
@msba7 2 жыл бұрын
بتلاقي فين مصادر كويسة للدراسة؟ أنا مش لاقي أي مصدر عربي كويس حتى شارح الأبجدية القبطية، فضلا عن اللغة
@shakalalalalkh1098
@shakalalalalkh1098 2 жыл бұрын
@@msba7 there's a playlist of roughly 33 videos named "Coptic Language Lessons (CYC)", it's the best thing to get you started. after that you have to go to a university course , there's no other way ..yet
@nathanjohnwade2289
@nathanjohnwade2289 2 жыл бұрын
@@msba7 If need be, talk to a priest or monk.
@paulziolo9241
@paulziolo9241 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent video, highly informative and well-presented, essential watching for those pursuing the study of psychohistory.
@janvanhoyk8375
@janvanhoyk8375 2 жыл бұрын
RFB, I know you have staff researchers and must spend a lot of time producing this content, but curious if you are currently doing any new research of your own? Either way, even just relating and explaining other well researched topics for a larger audience is extremely useful and appreciated.
@Vienna3080
@Vienna3080 2 жыл бұрын
A modern video on the Assyrian language would be nice
@Radibu
@Radibu 2 жыл бұрын
Real 💯
@loveandmercy9664
@loveandmercy9664 2 жыл бұрын
That's next episode. Than the Maronite Levant dialect after.
@badgoy534
@badgoy534 Жыл бұрын
@@loveandmercy9664 Maronite Arabic is spoken in Cyprus, Palestine and Lebanon with each distinct sub dialects
@gringo3002
@gringo3002 Жыл бұрын
Akkadian?
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Fascinating! Love our Egyptian Friends! 🇬🇷❤️🇪🇬
@MMy-bi1ev
@MMy-bi1ev Жыл бұрын
If you type Copts, Google For arts and culture, you will find that it says that the percentage is more than thirty percent, and this is the percentage that Christians say is their percentage. Even the Arab Wikipedia says that their percentage is ten to twenty and used the term Nassara He said he thought their percentage was ten percent and he was mocking their beliefs I am a religious man of Muslim origin. I say that it is impossible for the number of Christians in Egypt to be less than twenty percent. There is a monastery in Egypt in the month of the eighth that has eight million people attending it, and the vast majority of my Christian friends have not visited it. The largest governorate in southern Egypt, half of which is Christian. The second largest governorate in Upper Egypt, 40%. Statistics show that the area with the least Copts in Egypt is Mansoura, and 17% of the students in my college in Mansoura are Christians. The largest area in all of Cairo is Shubra and is inhabited by two million people, including a million and a half Christians
@youtherthyfproduction5005
@youtherthyfproduction5005 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU i love this video. btw we in egypt also use some coptic words in everyday arabic like shabora(fog)
@annawolf8172
@annawolf8172 2 жыл бұрын
Love waking up to a brand new history lesson while I make my coffee
@martinokhalil4900
@martinokhalil4900 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you from a Copt 🇪🇬 I speak Coptic fluently btw
@coolbrotherf127
@coolbrotherf127 2 жыл бұрын
Did you learn from just reading and hearing it a lot of did you study the language more closely?
@felobatirmoheb4884
@felobatirmoheb4884 2 жыл бұрын
​@@coolbrotherf127 Considering he put an Egyptian flag there I believe he is a copyic orthodox christian like myself and learns and reads it in church and sunday schools.
@dojamouse9455
@dojamouse9455 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, you are the real Egyptian, bravo!!
@felobatirmoheb4884
@felobatirmoheb4884 2 жыл бұрын
@@dojamouse9455 damn i smell that sarcasm all the way from over here. Bravo!
@dojamouse9455
@dojamouse9455 2 жыл бұрын
@@felobatirmoheb4884 did i say something wrong? If so i am sorry, bcoz as i know the real Egyptian is "the coptic people" other than that they are just imigrated from surrounding country
@MasterGeekMX
@MasterGeekMX 2 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing that the early egyptologists like Champollion used coptic to "reverse engineer" ancient egyptian.
@ThatBernie
@ThatBernie 2 жыл бұрын
That’s true! His knowledge of Coptic was instrumental in his decipherment of hieroglyphs. At the time it was still undecided whether Coptic was descended from the ancient Egyptian language, and Champollion’s decipherment proved that it was.
@zimriel
@zimriel 2 жыл бұрын
Champollion needs to be elevated as a saint in all our churches
@ehabbob5111
@ehabbob5111 Жыл бұрын
that s true
@bobii379
@bobii379 2 жыл бұрын
Very thorough and so interesting, thank you!
@ministeriosemmanuel638
@ministeriosemmanuel638 2 жыл бұрын
Coptic is a very interesting language! Gonna learn it. Please do a video on the Aramaic language
@gringo3002
@gringo3002 Жыл бұрын
There needs to be more videos on Aram and the Arameans.
@makslargu5799
@makslargu5799 2 жыл бұрын
4:51 interesting graphic because the λ being shown in Coptic is just the lower case Λ in Greek, same with the ξ is just the lower case Ξ and ω is the lower case Ω. I have seen the Cyrillic looking c before as a stylized σ/ς in some Greek scripts. It’s really interesting that in Greek some of the capitals can look really different from their lower case counterparts but in Coptic to make something a capital it looks like the approach is to just make the letter bigger.
@nathanjohnwade2289
@nathanjohnwade2289 2 жыл бұрын
The Coptic alphabet is based on the ancient version of the Greek alphabet, since then the two alphabet have diverged somewhat, for a number of reasons.
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 2 жыл бұрын
Coptic and Greek are the similar languages and similar people.
@nathanjohnwade2289
@nathanjohnwade2289 2 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 I attend a Coptic Orthodox Church, and I can say that, other than writing systems, the Coptic language is quite different to Greek, in fact, the Coptic language is just Ancient Egyptian written in a modified Greek alphabet, that's all. As for similarities in cultures, how? I can't see it.
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanjohnwade2289 I sometimes think they are singing in Greek when I hear Coptic hymns. Coptic feels like Greek dialect.
@nathanjohnwade2289
@nathanjohnwade2289 2 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 Yes, Greek is sometimes used, which is probably what you are hearing, however, the bulk is in Coptic, which is a form of ancient Egyptian written in a modified ancient Greek alphabet.
@drnmalek
@drnmalek 2 күн бұрын
As an Egyptian Copt i am amazed at your intellect and ability to fluidly explain the subject and teach. Thanks
@sandro-eliesaad9541
@sandro-eliesaad9541 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing as usual, Andrew ❤
@happymisterbad
@happymisterbad 2 жыл бұрын
“From Moscow to Michigan” is a great phrase
@worldcitizeng6507
@worldcitizeng6507 2 жыл бұрын
You really know your subjects 🤓 I met acfew coptic Egyptian in Aswan, Luxor, Cairo during my Egypt journey in September 2021
@prchdm
@prchdm 2 жыл бұрын
It always fascinates me that the last 1000 years of Egypt's history before the Arab conquest, it was Hellenised in a large degree.
@gringo3002
@gringo3002 Жыл бұрын
From what I understand, the Greeks conquered a large area, at one time.
@prchdm
@prchdm Жыл бұрын
@Gringo300 * yeah, most of the known world at that time. From the Danube river in the Balkans to Indus river in India and from the steppes of Central Asia to the Sahara Desert.
@gringo3002
@gringo3002 Жыл бұрын
@@prchdm Also, from what I understand, there were a lot of people who weren't ethnic Greek who were fluent in Greek at that time. Another thing, from what I understand, Arabs started out in a much smaller area and gradually conquered more and more area.
@ahmedelkhwaga2751
@ahmedelkhwaga2751 Жыл бұрын
Muslims not arabs
@Faisal-pb5gu
@Faisal-pb5gu 9 ай бұрын
@@ahmedelkhwaga2751 They were Arab Muslims The ethnic and cultural identity of the early conquerors should not be ignored on the pretext that they only wanted to spread religion
@dr.banoub9233
@dr.banoub9233 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact- The word *_Copt_* is anglicized from the original ancient Egyptian words _Ka Ptah_ which meant the ‘Energy of Ptah’.
@ReligiosityPlus
@ReligiosityPlus 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Just what I needed for a future video! Much respect!
@samihabdelmalik7146
@samihabdelmalik7146 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your efforts and consideration our original Coptic language and history which are ignored from being studied in our schools and universities they mention it briefly in one or two pages in history books instead other periods specially Islamic period. Your video gave me hope that there are still people in this planet still know about our language and history more than our neighbours in the same country. God bless you all.
@MrLantean
@MrLantean 2 жыл бұрын
Coptic is not a single language but rather a family of closely related dialects descended from Ancient Egyptian language. However, the dialects differ from one another in terms of their phonology, morphology, and vocabulary. This meant Coptic dialects are diverging from each other on the path of becoming separate languages. This is analogous to how regional dialects of Latin spoken throughout the Roman Empire diverged from each other to become separate languages under its own family of languages known as Romance languages. Reviving Coptic as a vernacular requires a lot of work. Coptic had ceased being a vernacular language since the 1500s or 1600s and the usage has been restricted as liturgical language of the Coptic Church especially the Bohairic Coptic dialect. Coptic specialists can create a standardized form of vernacular Coptic by combining the phonology, morphology, and vocabulary of all Coptic dialects. The language lacks modern terms, words and expressions due to the fact that it cease being a vernacular language for several centuries. Specialists can create new ones from archaic ones found in either Ancient Egyptian or Coptic ones. The most practical approach is to use loanwords from other languages preferably related family of languages. Coptic and Arabic are actually related as both languages belongs to the Afroasiatic family of languages which has several branches. Arabic belongs to the Semitic branch while Coptic belongs to the Egyptian branch. Loanwords will be predominantly from Egyptian Arabic since it is the language spoken by all Egyptians( Christians and Muslims).
@peterfarhat5767
@peterfarhat5767 2 жыл бұрын
Hello I am Egyptian, Amazing job but I would like to correct a small mistake , Pope Cyril the Sixth is pronounced as Pope Kyrillos the sixth as the name originally from the letter “ K “ Kappa not “ C “ Cema
@peterfarhat5767
@peterfarhat5767 2 жыл бұрын
Btw Some families still till now Speak Coptic as their mother tongue, I can speak it but unfortunately wasn’t my mother tongue
@zimriel
@zimriel 2 жыл бұрын
He's translating for a Latin audience, this is how Latins pronounce this name today. Likewise Copts have their pronunciation of Greek names which do not match how Greeks spoke at the time
@alanfenick1103
@alanfenick1103 2 жыл бұрын
Wish you taught World Religions when I was in college! A little overwhelming, but quite understandable! Thanks
@nash.p9781
@nash.p9781 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you value the Coptic language as an important historical language. You may not know it but you are a friend to the Coptic Orthodox Church.
@m070sam
@m070sam Жыл бұрын
4:10 lower Egypt has 3 main dialect 1-bohairic in west delta (part of delta family dialects) 2-bashmoric in east delta (part of delta family dialects) 3-ashmonic in the south (part of middle Egypt family dialects) (4) Alexandria was speaking Greek until the Arab occupation
@ASMM1981EGY
@ASMM1981EGY 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Egyptian Muslim I speak Coptic and Ancient Egyptian 😃🤩💙 "Oujai" Hello
@epchoisnainan1110
@epchoisnainan1110 2 жыл бұрын
Oujai actually means goodbye not hello
@epchoisnainan1110
@epchoisnainan1110 2 жыл бұрын
As a Coptic Christian glad you are learning Coptic though
@nixylynx4510
@nixylynx4510 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing quantity of information ..!.. Congratulations and thank you very much.
@Livoirienyvoitrien
@Livoirienyvoitrien 2 жыл бұрын
You span quite a couple of topics as a scholar. Hats off.
@ayaknamedmax
@ayaknamedmax 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I didn't realize there were so many forms of coptic that developed in a relatively small area. I have a question/observation. Im LDS, and obviously use the Book Of Mormon. In LDS history, the Book of Mormon translation was translated from what Joseph Smith called "reformed egyptian". So my question is do you think this could be some form of coptic. 1 Nephi 1:2 states "Yea, I make a record in the language of my father, which consists of the learning of the Jews and the language of the Egyptians." That sounds a lot like a form of coptic. What are your thoughts? (Weather or not you believe in the authenticity of the Book of Mormon its a fun thought to discuss).
@kevionrogers7553
@kevionrogers7553 Жыл бұрын
The length straight line wise is 880 miles, but they traveled by boat & its closer to 2000 miles of river basin that Coptic was spoken, so its not relatively a small area. That's equivalent to the East Coast USA states from Maine to Florida, which is 2,165 miles. The Book of Mormons was "inspired by" looking at the Book of the Dead; it is not a translation of it. The Joseph Smith Papyri are still extent, so we know its content. The Book of Abraham, Book of Joseph, & Princess Katumin, daughter of Pharoah Onitas were inspired by him looking at the scrolls as art, but he didn't know the language to translate them.
@ahmedanubis
@ahmedanubis Жыл бұрын
Great video!👍 For those interested, The Egyptian Arabic mainly developed during the Fatimid era as Egyptians adopted Arabic in their professional lives (since Coptic became strictly liturgical and lost it's vocabular variety since it was rarely written in any non religious context) so Egyptians would speak Arabic at work and Coptic at home and slowly the dialect formed characterized by a Coptic grammar(spoken), Egyptianized Arabic words, and many Egyptian words. 🇪🇬
@MrLantean
@MrLantean Жыл бұрын
Coptic and Arabic are actually related as both are members of the Afro-Asiatic family of languages. Coptic belongs to the Egyptian branch while Arabic belongs to the Semitic branch. Arabic has increasing becoming the dominant language even among the Copts themselves over the course of centuries. The last vestiges of vernacular Coptic had died out by the 16th or 17th Centuries CE though it persisted for several decades in some rural areas. Coptic is not a single language but rather a family of closely dialects descended from Ancient Egyptian language. They also differ from one another terms of their phonology, morphology, and vocabulary. These dialects are diverging from each other to become separate languages. Major dialects of Coptic are Sahidic, Bohairic, Akhmimic, Fayyumic, Lycopolitan, and Oxyrhynchite. From 325-800CE, the Sahadic dialect flourished as the literary language throughout Egypt. The Coptic language preserved by the Coptic Church is the Bohairic dialect which was spoken in the Nile Delta. In recent decades, there are attempts and proposals to revive Coptic as a vernacular. It will not be easy as vernacular Coptic has been extinct for around 400-500 years. Coptic linguistic experts can create a standardized form of vernacular Coptic by combining the phonology, morphology, and vocabulary of all known dialects of Coptic. New terms, words and phrases can be created from archaic Coptic ones as well as giving them new meaning. The most practical approach is to adopt loanwords from other languages preferably related languages. Since Coptic and Arabic are related, loanwords will be predominantly derived from Arabic as it is the language of all Egyptians(Christians and Muslims).
@terminator1694
@terminator1694 Жыл бұрын
It was forced not adopted and punishment was cutting tongue. Nice taqiya 👍
@umii-jh5fr
@umii-jh5fr Жыл бұрын
@@terminator1694 THANK YOU,‼️
@ahmedanubis
@ahmedanubis Жыл бұрын
@@terminator1694 Arw you really generlizing a 25 year period on 1400 years?!
@eloutsider4853
@eloutsider4853 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video I am an Egyptian. And it's the first time to know these informations about Coptic language which is still be used in the Coptic churches ceremonies even there's a vallige in upper Egypt people still use it there . And I got to know few words : ))
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 Жыл бұрын
we blacks are the true Egyptians you are just arab invaders. jk jk lol
@samywaleed9545
@samywaleed9545 2 жыл бұрын
Proud to be Coptic ❤️🇪🇬
@raymonko
@raymonko Жыл бұрын
Pls be proud of what you achieve, not how you were born as. No one chooses where they get born.
@cavithalilparlak2264
@cavithalilparlak2264 Жыл бұрын
@@raymonko And why is that ? Why can't you be proud of your ancestors' accomplishment ?
@raymonko
@raymonko Жыл бұрын
@@cavithalilparlak2264 As I mentioned because we don't choose how we are born! And creating pride based on nationality and racial basis creates all kinds of issues including prejudices against others. Looking back to determine how privileged we are had proven to be detrimental. I know it sounds benign but it is not.
@believeinpeace
@believeinpeace 2 жыл бұрын
So much to learn. Thank you for the education
@georgejackson3114
@georgejackson3114 2 жыл бұрын
We should start to learn this again !
@ParisAndreou
@ParisAndreou Жыл бұрын
Love your new, more "together" and calm look! That's the way!
@MaximilianOOO491
@MaximilianOOO491 2 жыл бұрын
I had to subscribe after this very informative video. The relationship between history and language is fascinating
@spirituallevelofbeing7308
@spirituallevelofbeing7308 2 жыл бұрын
He made a mistake on the age of the Coptic text the Greek version was written around the 4th century or just before the Coptic version was dated around the beginning of the first century or late firs century to the beginning of the second it was copied from an even Earlier copy that has been lost to time its older then the new testament I discuss these subjects and I upload ancient scriptures one love and many blessings peace ✌
@cherifbar
@cherifbar 5 ай бұрын
very impressive presentation. thank you. My beloved late parents used to speak Coptic. regrettably, I did not learn the language except for very few words because I grew up in Canada.
@johnpluta1768
@johnpluta1768 Жыл бұрын
Coptic was a result of the Greek influence in Egypt during the reign of Ptolemies which was the last Pharonic Dynasty in Egypt before Roman Conquest after the death of Queen Cleopatra.
@MarielaDemetrick_202
@MarielaDemetrick_202 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing descriptive video!
@genavialts3058
@genavialts3058 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so early yay. Been curious about Coptic for a while. So yay
@jasonnugent963
@jasonnugent963 2 жыл бұрын
I don't consider myself religious,.. but I'm deeply appreciative that I discovered your channel. The quality and depth of knowledge you have is truly impressive. I feel educated, entertained and enriched watching your videos. Thank you so much for all the work you put into spreading your passion.
@ranashehab5864
@ranashehab5864 Жыл бұрын
I am an Egyptian ... we are really proud of our history ❤️ 🇪🇬
@maryloudascoli
@maryloudascoli Жыл бұрын
As did the ancient Greeks and Romans.
@kimiboyy
@kimiboyy Жыл бұрын
Currently studying Coptic on my own, the language was surprisingly still alive till the 1930s in some isolated pockets in Upper Egypt until it ceased to exist after some Pan-Arab trolling unfortunately..
@gringo3002
@gringo3002 Жыл бұрын
According to what I've heard, a lot of Arab Egyptians are hostile towards Copts.
@Mosta3i
@Mosta3i 5 ай бұрын
From Egyptian coptic muslem l love my ⲥⲟⲡⲧⲓ ❤.
@HassanRadwan133
@HassanRadwan133 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks!
@samc8570
@samc8570 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Curious about which scholars suggest that the dialects are actually a group of related languages. I've not come across that before, but Coptic dialectology is a bit of a mess.
@moonrisegazer
@moonrisegazer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your great videos, you are my favorite channel
@georgekobty
@georgekobty 8 ай бұрын
My last name is Copti, my Dad decided on Kobty. Is there something i can watch or read to help me find stories of the past?
@bananawitchcraft
@bananawitchcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Idk when this became a linguistics channel but I am here for it
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