The Soviet Era Doomsday Machine That's Still Operational

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The Raven's Eye

The Raven's Eye

Күн бұрын

Living through the mid 1980s was a strange time. On one hand, we had great music, great movies and for someone like me, going through your teens, it was undoubtedly a great time to be alive. However, hanging over it all, was this feeling of existential dread - the very real possibility of a nuclear war between the USA and the USSR. It was in this era that the Soviet Union created Dead Hand, the ultimate nuclear weapon....
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@theravenseye9443
@theravenseye9443 8 ай бұрын
Seen a few comments noting that this was much more in keeping with the movie Dr Stangelove, so why make the Terminator comparison.? Simple, I've never seen Dr Stangelove !!
@ZolaClyde
@ZolaClyde 8 ай бұрын
You should, it’s amazing. Far superior to any of the Terminator movies. How could you even mention 1983 without mentioning Able Archer in ‘83? You could’ve mentioned it and prepped your audience for a double episode on that. Many details to get 100% correct. It’s terrifying and fascinating - especially if you were living in West Germany at the time. It definitely deserves 2 episodes worth of time. Or 1 longer one. Either / Or.
@hewhoneverdies001
@hewhoneverdies001 8 ай бұрын
BEFORE... you watch Dr. Strangelove though, even though I'd also higly recommend Dr. Strangelove, I even more recommend a film from the same year called Fail-Safe, it has a plot that is nearly identical to Strangelove, the only difference is that Strangelove is a black comedy while Fail-Safe is played 100% serious. Fail-Safe is a very dark and brooding film and it derives most of it's strength from the stellar performances of the actors. It's a better film in my opinion and often better enjoyed if one has not previously seen Strangelove.
@pauloalvesdesouza7911
@pauloalvesdesouza7911 8 ай бұрын
Well you most definitely should. And Fail-safe too.
@BarryHWhite
@BarryHWhite 8 ай бұрын
Aye right!. You basically quoted the Whole movie. Not buying u never saw Dr Strangelove. "STOP WORRYING AND LOVE THE BOMB!. "
@theravenseye9443
@theravenseye9443 8 ай бұрын
Honestly - never seen it. I know it has Peter Sellers (who has an arm he can't control...?) and there's a scene of some guy riding a nuclear missile with a cowboy hat. That's all I know!
@SpasticSpelunker
@SpasticSpelunker 8 ай бұрын
It’s honestly a lot like the “Doomsday Device” from Dr.Strangelove, a movie from 1964 and I can’t help but imagine a group of KGB officials watching the film and thinking “yes, we should make something like that”
@nein3405
@nein3405 7 ай бұрын
my thoughts exactly
@Seadog..11
@Seadog..11 7 ай бұрын
"How I learned to love the bomb"
@wtf_usa5597
@wtf_usa5597 24 күн бұрын
Ditto.. My thoughts exactly!
@kitharrison8799
@kitharrison8799 8 ай бұрын
The genius of the Dead Hand is that it doesn't even need to exist, as long as the enemy believes it exists. I don't think it has anything to do with UVB-76 as often claimed, but otherwise it's certainly plausible.
@Anon_Spartan
@Anon_Spartan 8 ай бұрын
So we lied about Star Wars, and they lied about Dead Hand but both sides really believed the other? I can dig it. It's kinda amusing that if Dead Hand just scans for nuclear explosions if Russia tested a nuke it would trigger the system.
@DarkSitesChannel
@DarkSitesChannel 8 ай бұрын
UVB-76 is, probably, a radio channel marker, to stop anyone else using it. Several times in the Ukraine War it has come to life with coded chatter. Hopefully.
@christopher9727
@christopher9727 8 ай бұрын
.. Jesus Christ saves He had mercy on me he can save all who all seek him today He made away through calvery repent of all sins today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Holy Spirit can give you peace purpose and joy and his will today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
@SkuuchiMane808
@SkuuchiMane808 8 ай бұрын
UVB-76 is a spy communication system that reads out code once in a while. I don't think it has anything to do with dead hand either
@heinrichmuller7974
@heinrichmuller7974 8 ай бұрын
thats' a good possibility of that being the case, but you could also go one further and say that because the enemy perceives you to have a working concept they too now want their own and go ahead and build it, turning fiction into reality simply become of that perceived belief. real "chicken or egg" stuff lol
@ricequin
@ricequin 8 ай бұрын
Living a few miles from an oil refinery and a submarine base in a NATO member state I spent much of my childhood in the 1980’s wondering when the Soviets were going to nuke everything I had ever known.
@averybutcher1730
@averybutcher1730 8 ай бұрын
2:38 2:41 3:17
@christinejurcak3208
@christinejurcak3208 8 ай бұрын
Wondered the same. In 1985, soon after “We Built This City” by Starship was released, my school band played the song at the Capitol in D.C. While practicing beforehand, and on the lead up to the day we played, we somewhat-joked that we’d be playing along…we built this city…and “ka-blam!!” (we’d get nuked) The day & performance ended up going well, but the concern / apprehension / fear that we had was real.
@ricequin
@ricequin 8 ай бұрын
@@TheSuperDerp did you miss the bit where I said I had those fears in my childhood? I have read many books on the topic in the decades since but it’s not something that Topsy and Tim touched on much in the 1980’s.
@henryturnerjr3857
@henryturnerjr3857 8 ай бұрын
I thought we'd be relatively safe as I lived far out in the country. Then someone mentioned they'd target power plants first, and there were 2 within a few miles!
@NorthEevee
@NorthEevee 8 ай бұрын
Den Helder?
@roscoewhite3793
@roscoewhite3793 8 ай бұрын
It's interesting to compare the mottoes of the US Strategic Air Command and the Soviet (now Russian) Strategic Rocket Forces. Strategic Air Command: Peace Is Our Profession Strategic Rocket Forces: После нас - тишина (After Us - Silence) You have to appreciate the brutal honesty of the Strategic Rocket Forces.
@Baseballnfj
@Baseballnfj 8 ай бұрын
And the complete horseshit propaganda of western names
@christopher9727
@christopher9727 8 ай бұрын
... Jesus Christ saves He had mercy on me he can save all who all seek him today He made away through calvery repent of all sins today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Holy Spirit can give you peace purpose and joy and his will today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
@baardkopperud
@baardkopperud 8 ай бұрын
Wasn't there a base where under "Peace is our profession", somebody had added "Bombing is just a hobby"?
@S.M.E.A.C
@S.M.E.A.C 8 ай бұрын
Hahaha wow! That's cold.
@loopmantra8314
@loopmantra8314 8 ай бұрын
Irony being that USA have literally nothing to do with keeping peace, and their bombers were killing civilians whereas Russia never even had the chance to properly prove their motto to be true
@melbournestreetdrummermsd3202
@melbournestreetdrummermsd3202 8 ай бұрын
During world war 2, Russia in retreating applied the scorch earth policy. The dead hand would assure on a scorch planet earth policy. Thanks for always a great video.
@talpark8796
@talpark8796 8 ай бұрын
not at all the same 🙄
@lightyagami3492
@lightyagami3492 8 ай бұрын
​@@talpark8796Its not the same but it does establish a pattern of behavior. It would not surprise me at all that the Russians have something like this.
@talpark8796
@talpark8796 8 ай бұрын
it is a tactic that is as old as massed human warfare @@lightyagami3492
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert 8 ай бұрын
​@lightyagami3492 Do we even know if it even exists? Could just be propaganda to scare NATO. Reagan's Star Wars fiasco certainly scared the reds.
@flabbergast_se
@flabbergast_se 8 ай бұрын
Russians have done this in wars before. Against Napoleon. Against the Swedish empire. And before. If we can't have it then you can't have it.
@leftfieldparlays2946
@leftfieldparlays2946 8 ай бұрын
I remember seeing something similar to this on an episode of The Outer Limits called ' Dead Man's Switch' back in the 90’s where a lone soldier is sent to a bunker where he has the power to launch all the planets nuclear weapons if the world's armies cannot defeat a pending alien invasion
@lightyagami3492
@lightyagami3492 8 ай бұрын
Well yeah it's based off the dead hand system.
@Paul-cu9lu
@Paul-cu9lu 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, that story didn't have a happy ending. Doubtful this one will either. At least it will be over fast for most of us.
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 8 ай бұрын
Remember that one. Was very scary in that something similar is plausible. The ending, though 😮😮😮. The light brigade was another one that was crazy.
@shishoka
@shishoka 8 ай бұрын
I remember that one two. It was multiple soldiers in a network, each one alone. The aliens found them, picked them off one by one, until he was the last. He was about to launch the nukes when the US president called and told him to stand down. Ending revealed the president was being puppeted by the aliens.
@doggonemess1
@doggonemess1 8 ай бұрын
Given Russia's track record with technical services lately, it makes me very concerned that they're "upgrading" this system. It just seems even more likely that it would activate on accident.
@checktheplaylist101
@checktheplaylist101 8 ай бұрын
Russians already have nukes in Western lands according to defectors, just waiting for the right moment.
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne 8 ай бұрын
Ah, but there would have to be several triggers at once, like losing communications, and measuring large amounts of radiation. When would that ever happen? 😃
@DariaDarkness-f7n
@DariaDarkness-f7n 8 ай бұрын
Just think in the same way about the multiple "accidents" about thermonuclear devices from the U. S. air force or the submarine fleet. We're living today on borrowed time...
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne 8 ай бұрын
@@harrywyependragon4242 That's a lot of words for someone who's not worth your attention.
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne 8 ай бұрын
@@harrywyependragon4242 I couldn't make head nor tail from that message, so I'll just assume you're a bot.
@Truckngirl
@Truckngirl 8 ай бұрын
I live very comfortably with the idea that I can see Pearl Harbor from my house. I'm obviously at the ground zero blast zone. Because of that, I'm grateful, knowing I will be immediately incinerated rather than stumbling around for a couple of weeks slowly dying of radiation poisoning. I watched Threads, When the Wind Blows and the US's own tribute to doomsday, Testament and The Day After. I'm READY.
@archstanton6102
@archstanton6102 8 ай бұрын
Am in northern Virginia, so 3 miles from Pentagon and 4 miles from DC and equally content i die in the first blast.
@neighborhoodcatlady6094
@neighborhoodcatlady6094 8 ай бұрын
@@archstanton6102me too. Would rather be at ground zero.
@MelanieCravens
@MelanieCravens 8 ай бұрын
I'm a stone's throw from Cheyenne Mountain.
@yorkshirebikerbitsnbobs
@yorkshirebikerbitsnbobs 8 ай бұрын
@@MelanieCravens Cool! The SG team will stop it!
@yorkshirebikerbitsnbobs
@yorkshirebikerbitsnbobs 8 ай бұрын
@Truckngirl I live in the city of Sheffield where Threads was filmed! It's not a good movie to be shown at school when you're only about 11 years old, that's for sure.
@waxeightoneeight
@waxeightoneeight 8 ай бұрын
I'm not trying to diss Raven's Eye here, but I love how "Dr. Strangelove"-a critically-acclaimed, cold war-era film featuring a Soviet doomsday device designed to automatically trigger a retaliatory thermonuclear ballistic attack if the country were struck with a nuclear weapon-literally exists and he chose to compare this real-life device to the "Terminator." lol
@fwfs
@fwfs 8 ай бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing. "Dr. Strangelove tackled this exact scenario, so why is he referencing Terminator, which is tangentially related, at best?" In fact, Dr. Strangelove summed up the entire concept of deterrence (nuclear or otherwise): "It is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy: the fear of attack."
@ZolaClyde
@ZolaClyde 8 ай бұрын
Dis away, I completely agree and think the episode should be redone after watching Dr. Strangelove. Everyone has a bad episode now and then but I don’t feel like the necessary research was done b/4 this one. He skipped Able Archer too, which was a huge deal in 1983 - especially in West Germany. Not even a mention? It deserved a mention and its very own episode. A long one.
@RatKindler
@RatKindler 8 ай бұрын
Even some of what he says sounds like references to Dr. Strangelove. What's the point of a deterrent if you don't tell your adversary about it? Isn't that what Dr. Strangelove asked the Russian ambassador in the movie?
@michaelcoburn2975
@michaelcoburn2975 8 ай бұрын
​@RatKindler "Z point of z doomsday device is lost, if you keep it a secret, WHY DIDNT YOU TELL Z WORLD, EH?" Yes Dr. Strangelove himself asked the ambassador this after they learned of the doomsday device. One of my favorite movies.
@TheGryfonclaw
@TheGryfonclaw 8 ай бұрын
Sorry. I was raised during the very tail end of the Cold War and I can't relate to a movie from 1964 pop culture.
@arbel7655
@arbel7655 8 ай бұрын
We are absolutely the dumbest species.
@asha4736
@asha4736 8 ай бұрын
Americans are. Some of us live in countries that spent decades trying to stop wars and undo damage.
@arbel7655
@arbel7655 8 ай бұрын
@@asha4736 ok there, they aren't the only ones.
@Dillybar777
@Dillybar777 8 ай бұрын
​@@asha4736oh the irony in your ignorance. 😂 You're part of the dummies, bucko.
@Allthrashedout.
@Allthrashedout. 8 ай бұрын
Americans are.. pfft..Human nature is flawed..
@sdwone
@sdwone 8 ай бұрын
Yeap! But let's be clear... Only a fraction of us are psychotic, suicidal and deranged! The problem!? These types are usually power hungry, and so we end up having them run the world... That's the problem! We've allowed ourselves to be governed by suicidal lunatics! Which... Yes... Collectively makes us very dumb!
@snowdogthewolf
@snowdogthewolf 8 ай бұрын
The Eighties were some wild wild times. Day glow neon everything, weapon-head hairstyles, padded shoulders, station wagons, the original Nintendo and Sega... good times to be a kid.
@snowdogthewolf
@snowdogthewolf 8 ай бұрын
@@metalmusic4958 Everyone wearing them looked to be Romulan (Next Generation version).
@tomdecuca3627
@tomdecuca3627 8 ай бұрын
​@@snowdogthewolfMad Max!!
@snowdogthewolf
@snowdogthewolf 7 ай бұрын
@@tomdecuca3627 You know it!
@StuartMarchetti
@StuartMarchetti 8 ай бұрын
"There were those of us who fought against it, but in the end we could not keep up with the expense involved in the arms race, the space race, and the peace race. At the same time our people grumbled for more nylons and washing machines. Our doomsday scheme cost us just a small fraction of what we had been spending on defense in a single year. The deciding factor was when we learned that your country was working along similar lines, and we were afraid of a doomsday gap. "
@piaonomata9220
@piaonomata9220 8 ай бұрын
Yep...it's funny that Raven's Eye would pick Terminator as a parallel film, when all through the video I was busily ticking off squares on my Dr. Strangelove bingo card. Right up through the very end, which echoes Strangelove's subtitle "Or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb". And we can't forget..."Of course the whole part of a doomsday device is lost...IF YOU KEEP IT A SECRET! Why didn't you tell the world?!?"
@pauldegregorio6432
@pauldegregorio6432 8 ай бұрын
And then they let him see THE BIG BOARD.😮
@davidpawson7393
@davidpawson7393 8 ай бұрын
Would you like to play a game?
@vandermitch5146
@vandermitch5146 8 ай бұрын
A game of chest maybe Joshua
@MightyMezzo
@MightyMezzo 8 ай бұрын
Oh good lord are you saying that “Dr Strangelove” is a documentary?
@mattwilliams3456
@mattwilliams3456 8 ай бұрын
Life is easier if you learn to stop worrying and love the bomb.
@Videomorgue
@Videomorgue 8 ай бұрын
But what about our precious bodily fluids?
@BeardRubEnjoyer
@BeardRubEnjoyer 8 ай бұрын
The documentary "Dr. Strangelove" also delves into this device.
@jessicamerriman2336
@jessicamerriman2336 8 ай бұрын
I could write off UVB - 76, except for one thing. It's first broadcast was made from the Duga 1 radar installation, and the fact it's still active. The Russians do not do anything this long unless it has value. Why hold a radio channel open this long? Important in connection for orders and emergency comms. I used to have a radio setup and listened to UVB-76 many hours. Its definitly a hold channel, possibly of major value.
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert 8 ай бұрын
Was that the woodpecker thing?
@jessicamerriman2336
@jessicamerriman2336 8 ай бұрын
@@twistedyogert yup.
@JimAllen-Persona
@JimAllen-Persona 8 ай бұрын
You're not old enough to remember the sabre rattling of the cold war. A few times I was so on edge that I actually prayed for the problem to be resolved peacefully. It's only well after the fact that we found out about the real near misses vs. the rhetroric.
@SpicyTexan64
@SpicyTexan64 8 ай бұрын
I was actually in the army during the 80s and we weren't near as stressed out about it as you seem to have been.
@lightyagami3492
@lightyagami3492 8 ай бұрын
​@@SpicyTexan64You probably knew a bit more than the average citizen though.
@ianmacfarlane1241
@ianmacfarlane1241 8 ай бұрын
​@@SpicyTexan64You can't blame someone for being stressed out when you consider that schools were doing nuclear war drills.
@MarkAnthonyHenderson
@MarkAnthonyHenderson 8 ай бұрын
I was in the US Army from '78 until '85, and we trained for for an actual invasion from the Soviet bloc. I do not remember being worried about nuclear attacks that much. I took MAD for granted. Anyway, nothing you can do, so there was no sense in worrying.
@gregoryhagen8801
@gregoryhagen8801 8 ай бұрын
​@@ianmacfarlane1241My school never did that "duck & cover" crap. They realized it was a exercise in futility.
@willowsloughdx
@willowsloughdx 8 ай бұрын
Dr. Strangelove asks exactly the same question you ask at 10:16 in the Stanley Kubrick satire of the same name (1964).
@invictus2578
@invictus2578 8 ай бұрын
The United States silos still use floppy disc from the 70s there’s not outside contention they can’t be hacked at all
@TheAngieStoned
@TheAngieStoned 8 ай бұрын
Feeding the algorith, on behalf of one of the best channels on the tube, keep up the great work mate, I thoroughly enjoy it all! I hope the holidays treated you and your close ones well ❤
@ashishjoshi8148
@ashishjoshi8148 8 ай бұрын
This is absolutely terrifying! It's like a scenario from a well-known 1980s science fiction film called Wargames. As someone had said, we live in troubled times!
@clearcreek69
@clearcreek69 8 ай бұрын
I was thinking about Wargames as I watched this video along with Red Dawn 1984.
@CartoonHero1986
@CartoonHero1986 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I've always felt that Dead Head was a conspiracy made up by someone that watched Dr Strangelove a lot, and wanted to troll the public with the punchline about how a Doomsday Device becomes useless unless your enemies know about it "Why did you tell anybody huh?!?" "It was to be announced at our next international press conference... You know our President loves surprises..."
@SnookerMafia-or6nu
@SnookerMafia-or6nu 8 ай бұрын
Glad you’re back. Hope you’ve had a great Christmas and new year. Another informative video. Thanks once again.
@LegoTux
@LegoTux 8 ай бұрын
"The Premier was going to announce it at the Party Congress on Tuesday, you know how he likes suprises."
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat 8 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised Dead Hand existed...to a degree. I also wouldn't be surprised if it just crumbled from time and lack of maintenance. Look at the Moskava
@iamrichrocker
@iamrichrocker 8 ай бұрын
Skynet scenario is closer than ever in reality..AI is/can be a scary situation..
@cruickshankoutdoors7575
@cruickshankoutdoors7575 8 ай бұрын
Grew up on (and still live next to) a Canadian airforce base. In the late 80s and early 90s. I remember them running air raid / missile strike sirens every last Wednesday of the month. I knew exactly why they did that at my young age, and each time those sirens wailed it was eerie AF
@ZolaClyde
@ZolaClyde 8 ай бұрын
Soooo much left out of this considering it mentioned 1983 and never even mentioning Able Archer in ‘83. That was huge. Also should be revisited after The Raven’s Eye watches Dr. Strangelove. The Terminator? No… please.
@maxasaurus3008
@maxasaurus3008 8 ай бұрын
Sounds almost like the Strangelove movie.
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 8 ай бұрын
It is active right now. You can hear the synch pulses and verification on shortwave radio over several bands.
@Shannon_Dobbs
@Shannon_Dobbs 8 ай бұрын
You just made my day, Brother! EXCELLENT video as always!
@Springbok295
@Springbok295 8 ай бұрын
I graduated from high school in 1986. My hometown had USAF facilities west and northeast of us. Being a capital city we'd either be hit directly or swamped with fallout.
@mejohnb65
@mejohnb65 8 ай бұрын
What if the expected nuclear missle explosion is actually 1 of your own nuclear power stations blowing up like chenobyl for instance.
@de1018
@de1018 8 ай бұрын
"Mein fuhrer, I can walk!!!"
@solovevkiril
@solovevkiril 7 ай бұрын
Remember listening to UVB-76 with the boys and hearing "Sboy-Sboy-Sboy" (means Failure, Failure, Failure). We almost crapped our pants, but operator just corrected himself and proceeded to name numbers.
@strathruncie
@strathruncie 8 ай бұрын
Let's just hope the guy in the secondary control bunker has the same reasoning powers that Colonel Petrov used. 😉
@crypto091
@crypto091 7 ай бұрын
When the world almost ended...but one man decided to...just not...
@stevewhisperer6609
@stevewhisperer6609 8 ай бұрын
This isn't news to me. This is right out of the script from 'Dr Strangelove'. 😁🤣😅😋
@NorthEevee
@NorthEevee 8 ай бұрын
If the real reason they made a doomsday device is that they read an article that stated that the US had one too, Kubrick isn't a visionary. He'd be a clairvoyant.
@Schwarzvogel1
@Schwarzvogel1 8 ай бұрын
If Perimeter/Dead Hand were meant to be a secret, then you wouldn't be making this video about it. Why? Chances are, you wouldn't even know that the system exists, and if you _did_ know that it existed, you certainly would not be revealing highly classified information to the general public! There is a third possibility of Dead Hand being a system in the same category as the Casaba Howitzer and SHIVA/MARAUDER plasma railguns--it exists (or existed once) in some form, but exactly how it works; whether it was actually ever constructed or implemented (or merely remained a concept on the drawing board; now those bits are the highly classified part that one _does_ want to keep secret from the enemy, and which the enemy are genuinely interested in finding out. Especially the parts about how the system works and where it's implemented. Deception is a huge part of warfare, and it works both ways. Leading your enemy to think you have capabilities you lack, or that you lack capabilities which you actually have can be quite effective in convincing him to take actions that align with your goals (i.e. he doesn't attack you for fear of unavoidable reprisal).
@Seadog..11
@Seadog..11 7 ай бұрын
"how I learned to love the bomb" The West compares everything to movies.. And they always get the correct movie wrong 😊. . This is in line with Doctor Strangelove
@LodewijkVrije
@LodewijkVrije 7 ай бұрын
everyone always pretends its some scary system, meanwhile the USA had a pretty much identical system called ERCS the soviet system worked trough a distributed set of launch silos as well as an even higher set of detection nodes equipped with several surface level detectors. by detecting levels of radiation, detecting extremely bright flashes of light in different bands, and measuring air pressure waves. if the system detected a change in at least 2 of these values that would indicate a nuclear attack had occurred, it would then check if a manual command had been given to launch a counter attack, if it concluded that: A: detectors indicate a nuclear strike had occurred and B: no command to retaliate had been given, it would assume Soviet command had been struck in the initial strike. it would then exactly like the US system, launch rockets that acted like communication nodes. and would trough these rocket send commands to the crews of launch silo's as well as mobile launch vehicles to preform a retaliatory strike according to their pre briefed targets. i believe the specific communication rocket launched by the dead hand system is know as the "15P011 command missile"
@jean-francoislemieux5509
@jean-francoislemieux5509 8 ай бұрын
soviet built computer, now that is scary! from an army that steals fridges and washing machines for their chips... what could go wrong?
@stephmaccormick3195
@stephmaccormick3195 8 ай бұрын
1:23 That was almost perfect pronunciation! Kudos!
@timothyclark-sl4il
@timothyclark-sl4il 8 ай бұрын
Open the pod bay door, Hal.
@DamianMaisano
@DamianMaisano 8 ай бұрын
Your mentioning of terrorist activation is really terrifying, especially with how North Korea exists and eventually will fall in a probably less than totally stable manner.
@timshelby2324
@timshelby2324 8 ай бұрын
Reagan elected in 1980 , sworn in January 1981
@PharadayCage
@PharadayCage 8 ай бұрын
If you haven’t yet, watch Kubrick’s “Dr Strangelove” Life follows art
@Ranman1
@Ranman1 8 ай бұрын
The first terminator movie, established that we didn’t have skynet when the movie took place in 1984, for about 40 years, which is, 2024!
@J-Ernie
@J-Ernie 7 ай бұрын
To be honest, it would be more beneficial for them to say it exists even if it doesn't.
@alexanderveritas
@alexanderveritas 8 ай бұрын
The Russian propaganda really caught us with the pants down.
@somebloke2908
@somebloke2908 8 ай бұрын
This would make a great action/suspense movie. A massive natural disaster or indeed a meteor impact triggers the system, and a John McClane type has to save the planet from certain annihilation
@Teverell
@Teverell 6 ай бұрын
Another kid of the Eighties. Great music, so much of which was anti-nuclear protest songs, Two Tribes was just one - Games Without Frontiers, Atomic, Forever Young, 99 Red Balloons, Enola Gay.... Pretty easy to understand when living in the shadow of MAD and you never knew if someone might hit the button.
@am74343
@am74343 6 ай бұрын
Don't forget "Red Skies" by The Fixx!
@markwarren7959
@markwarren7959 8 ай бұрын
Konstantin Chernenko sounds like the Russian version of Biden.
@deoglemnaco7025
@deoglemnaco7025 8 ай бұрын
I was once assigned on a mission to destroy this when I was in the special forces in the marines. We never did find it but I certainly was a hero
@mac7040
@mac7040 8 ай бұрын
The dead hand ? Sounds like something Jay attempted during a episode of the Inbetweeners.
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 8 ай бұрын
I think of the "last resort" as this: Russia's meat grinder strategy with their poorly trained conscripts is comparable to the head of The Enclave in Fallout 2, Dick Richardson, a Biden-esque meek and memetic old grandfather of a figure whose callousness for humanity is outmatched by his paranoia and old coot senility, the Dead Hand, Russia's "last resort", is comparable to Frank Horrigan, an unreasonable powerful meathead capable of destruction and atrocity without a moment's hesitation, scorched earth be damned. Worth pointing out that NATO unironically views the Dead Hand as a credible system that is currently active. And they do not view it as an unreliable joke, but a surefire way to make things miserable for everyone.
@mac7040
@mac7040 8 ай бұрын
@@DR3ADER1 I think you need to chill out and not concern yourself chap. If it happens none of us will know about it 😅
@curbyourshi1056
@curbyourshi1056 8 ай бұрын
​@@DR3ADER1At least they aren't conscripting old Women and mentally defective people, right?
@davidbridge5652
@davidbridge5652 8 ай бұрын
Lol I was going to say the same
@InkDropFalls
@InkDropFalls 8 ай бұрын
Dead head sounds like the perfect excuse for we did an ooopppsssiiiee ..no wait it was the computers fault ..
@CAROLUSPRIMA
@CAROLUSPRIMA 8 ай бұрын
“And we call ourselves the human race.” John F Kennedy
@mrhungerpastor
@mrhungerpastor 8 ай бұрын
Artificial intelligence is like the scroll of Revelation, text and code intertwined. But all hell breaks loose when the seven seals of ethics are broken.
@hermanr5513
@hermanr5513 8 ай бұрын
Haven't heard about the SDI in a long time, but I wonder if it could be hacked or misused to create intense fires on islands?
@South_0f_Heaven_
@South_0f_Heaven_ 8 ай бұрын
Maybe Hawaii so the land could be redeveloped into million dollar homes?
@weightlifting_socialist
@weightlifting_socialist 7 ай бұрын
SDI was never possible and they knew it then. Their is no conspiracy that wants to take over the world, its in the open and callled capitalism. Capitalism selling dreams along with Reagan ruining the lower class while the upper class has thrived ever since. Thank Reagan for starting the Era were currently in where wages have been stagnate since his time, taxes along with public services have fallen too far down while the morbidly wealthy capitalists have taken all the profit after expenses. We're starting to come out of it and have seen conservative policies for what they are, trash.
@johnbaran577
@johnbaran577 7 ай бұрын
Look into Blue Gemini, there is a massive secret space infrastructure, all the money spent on SDI went to something…
@woodch
@woodch 8 ай бұрын
If such a system exists, I wonder if they took the possibility of a meteor strike into account. The last thing a reeling Earth would need immediately after a meteor strike would be an automated all-out nuclear response. Edit: There it is right at the end of the video :D
@sealifett8395
@sealifett8395 8 ай бұрын
The system is only activated and reading signals in times of crisis
@PanPanOB
@PanPanOB 8 ай бұрын
So, we almost had a literal Star Wars?!?
@pyrogina
@pyrogina 8 ай бұрын
those black and white comic drawings are really nice, who did them?
@genericalfishtycoon3853
@genericalfishtycoon3853 8 ай бұрын
Considering the conspiracy of the "Rods from God" program talking about telephone pole sized tungsten rods in orbit, I'd say they probably ought to include meteor strike/orbital bombardment if it's to be taken seriously. Kind of a unifying force when you think about it. We'd better hurry up and develop asteroid detection and deflection capabilities and coordinate them worldwide across governments with the USA and Russia, along with a few others now probably having a dead hand. It just makes sense to ensure the next big technological step is clearing those hurdles or sidestepping them entirely. Given the strategic importance, I'd wager a real solution is expectable, open or confidential.
@brunosouza2918
@brunosouza2918 8 ай бұрын
》Just like you, I grew up in that time.
@thomasconnors4338
@thomasconnors4338 8 ай бұрын
Dead hand was stripped of copper wire and traded for vodka 10 years ago.
@RostigeAxt
@RostigeAxt 3 ай бұрын
В твоих влажных мечтах
@diapysik
@diapysik 8 ай бұрын
Hate can only get wheels moving, apathy is the tracks they run on.
@Vesnicie
@Vesnicie 7 ай бұрын
Awesome. Anybody for a Moscow mule?
@MrNelmo2
@MrNelmo2 8 ай бұрын
As the Ukraine war has shown, I'd be amazed if Russia's tech would work. A nationwide network of sensors? Linked to 40 year old rockets? Not a chance...
@MrTak44
@MrTak44 8 ай бұрын
Plus the fact that they have not made any new tritum since 84 there's a 30% chance that warhead will dud.
@yp77738yp77739
@yp77738yp77739 8 ай бұрын
MAD is the inevitable outcome from a technological society. I think I remember about 20 years ago Dawkins predicting ratkind replacing humankind in that scenario. I expect they can do better than us and deserve their chance.
@christopher9727
@christopher9727 8 ай бұрын
.. Jesus Christ saves He had mercy on me he can save all who all seek him today He made away through calvery repent of all sins today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Holy Spirit can give you peace purpose and joy and his will today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
@heinrichmuller7974
@heinrichmuller7974 8 ай бұрын
absolutely amazing video! even if only from a "theoretical" perspective there are so many thought provoking points to pick apart, making this that much more interesting. one of my favourites, the "default targeting" aspect to the auto launch of all russian missiles, i wonder if any of those missiles will hit any of those expense bunkers people built in those now empty silo ranges ?? if so, it kind defeats the purpose of converting those things into places of refuge in the off chance that some old soviet era computer still holds those coordinates lol
@flabbergast_se
@flabbergast_se 8 ай бұрын
The assumption would be that the missile silos have already sent their payload to Russia. Why bomb them? As Russia has shown in the past and in Europe and asia, they aim for civilian hot spots. Bombing empty nuclear silos is pointless
@TabiTheCat
@TabiTheCat 8 ай бұрын
yay more fear the russians propaganda!
@robertliskey420
@robertliskey420 7 ай бұрын
There was a movie in 1970 called "Colossus The Forbin Project" It scared the daylights out of me. Seeing this brought it to mind as quite a possibility now.
@EddieRicks-i8v
@EddieRicks-i8v 7 ай бұрын
The best is to watch videos like this right before bedtime and think 🤔 about things you can give up now that will get you enough money to make a bunker in time 😂
@TraTranc
@TraTranc 8 ай бұрын
Hot take: "Perimetr", or "Dead hand", doesn't really exist. Or at least, not anymore.
@steadfastandyx4947
@steadfastandyx4947 8 ай бұрын
How old is the film Dr Strangelove? I think it's sixty. Could as well be now.
@jasonhare8540
@jasonhare8540 8 ай бұрын
Look this is all very interesting but another settlement needs your help ..... *Also . The Russians can't even really field modern weapons while they're being humiliated in Ukraine . Even if they built this system at some point I sincerely doubt it still works and even if it does it's nowhere near as complicated as we think. I mean the bottom line is even if it was approved and even if it was supposed to be built what we now know about the Russian military is most of the money probably went to the people involved at the top and not into the system. Remember they're uncrackable communications gear . Now they're using radio shack style walkie talkies and we've seen video of aftermarket car GPS being used in their fighter jets . They won't field their most modern tank or aircraft because they don't want the international marketplace to know it's trash . In light of all these revelations even if they did have this system my suspicion would be it's so deteriorated it wouldn't work if life depended on it or it was built so poorly in the first place it never would have worked.
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 8 ай бұрын
You sure? Right now there are reports that even Kiev are admitting holes and inadequacies in consistently repelling Russia's cycle of strikes (this is discounting the thousands of Ukrainian soldiers as reported by the BBC, fleeing to Romania and Moldova by swimming and often drowning in the fast-flowing rivers that litter the western borders of the country connecting Ukraine with both Romanian-speaking nations), as this is a long war of attrition and Russia has a history of winning long wars of attrition against France, Turkey, Persia, Germany, Georgia and Chechnya, overestimating the perceived weaknesses of Russia's military prowess is not really a wise thing to do (especially considering that the US struggled against Vietnam and Afghanistan and had to deal with a long, drawn-out war of attrition with Japan despite having the supply chain and strategic advantage). When the only nations to really hold them off were Afghanistan, who had help from the United States with intelligence and military support and Japan, who used superior, British-built warships such as the Mikasa to fend off the weaker Pacific fleet based in Vladivostok in the Battle of Tsushima, that leaves a very positive war record across all modern regimes of Russia.
@southpakrules
@southpakrules 8 ай бұрын
Well, so far the western ''predictions'' in spring 22 regarding the outcome of the ukrainazi war and Russian economy are the best joke of 'em all.
@krashd
@krashd 8 ай бұрын
The Russians have plenty of modern hardware, why would they waste them in Ukraine when they have an enormous surplus of cold war hardware lying around and envisage a direct war with the west. You don't use your best players in a league game if there is a possible cup game on the horizon they will need their energy for.
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 8 ай бұрын
@@krashd For the same reason the UK sent its own very expensive warship to sink a bunch of stolen pirate boats in Yemen's coastline and waters. Beats nuking everything to oblivion. Nukes are always a last resort for the really desperate and mad.
@adamholmes91
@adamholmes91 8 ай бұрын
"humiliated in ukraine" seriously? Get out from under your rock before its too late Jason
@louisquatorze9280
@louisquatorze9280 8 ай бұрын
Given how well Russkie military equipment has worked in the ongoing conflict, the Dead Hand is suspect.
@redcrown5154
@redcrown5154 8 ай бұрын
they're winning
@Razielchan666
@Razielchan666 8 ай бұрын
​@@redcrown5154The Ukrainians, you mean.
@redcrown5154
@redcrown5154 8 ай бұрын
how are they winning?@@Razielchan666
@DarkSitesChannel
@DarkSitesChannel 8 ай бұрын
Ravens Eye goes Ringways Manchester on one of my favourite dark subjects. I've not watched but this should be cool.
@musicilike69
@musicilike69 7 ай бұрын
Able Archer docu, DrStrangelove and Failsafe and the modern version with Clooney is also good, Failsafe2000. They all touch on this.
@helbent4
@helbent4 8 ай бұрын
The USA had a semi-automatic rocket communication system that was similar to the last part of Dead Hand/Perimeter: the AN/DR8 ERCS. The ERCS (Emergency Rocket Communication System) were Minuteman II and Blue Scout missiles equipped with transmitters. This was to provide a fail-safe communications system in case of a surprise attack decapitated the national command authority and/or normal communication with nuclear forces were unreliable. A designated command authority (SAC HQ, the Looking-Glass aircraft, the Numbered Air Forces) could program launch and targeting codes directly into the ERCS transmitters, the numbered Air Forces could direct missile crews to do so as well. Some would be launched from east to west and some from west to east to pass on nuclear launch authorisation to the northern tier of nuclear forces.
@atomicskull6405
@atomicskull6405 7 ай бұрын
Britain has a much simpler but no less effective solution, the ballistic missile submarine command staff are pre authorized to launch in the event that London ceases to exist. While on patrol they listen to radio broadcasts and if it becomes apparent that the UK has been destroyed the captain and first officer open a safe on board that requires codes memorized by each man to open that contain the launch authorization codes.
@helbent4
@helbent4 7 ай бұрын
@@atomicskull6405 That definitely works. It would be impossible to coordinate a counter-attack from different vessels as each would be making the independent decision to fire.
@kennichols3992
@kennichols3992 8 ай бұрын
As one who lived through the 1980s as a young adult, this document provides the most accurate view of the gestalt of the times that I've ever encountered.
@South_0f_Heaven_
@South_0f_Heaven_ 8 ай бұрын
Yep felt like we were living on borrowed time back then. Yet here we are instead society is falling apart all by itself.
@typograf62
@typograf62 8 ай бұрын
Dr. Strangelove: "Mr. President, it is not only possible, it is essential. That is the whole idea of this machine, you know. Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy... the FEAR to attack."
@bambambundy6
@bambambundy6 8 ай бұрын
Nancy: Ronny take your finger off that button! Ronald: But I want to own it all!
@JGCR59
@JGCR59 8 ай бұрын
Robotron computer at 7:48 was manufactured in East Germany :)
@glennllewellyn7369
@glennllewellyn7369 8 ай бұрын
Yippeee!
@tonyclifton265
@tonyclifton265 8 ай бұрын
in 1983 during NATO exercise "ABLE ARCHER 83", the soviets thought their satellites detected a NATO nuclear missile attack on russia but it was actually the sun reflecting off a cloud into the satellite array. luckily it didnt trigger dead hand but some senior soviets were convinced it was a nuclear attack and wanted to launch USSR missiles manually. soviet air force colonel stanislav petrov famously prevented WW3 by convincing the soviet leadership that it wasnt a real NATO attack.
@RichMantaray
@RichMantaray 7 ай бұрын
i think that there is a dead hand but it can not fire the nukes ,,,, someone else press's the button ,,if the computer gives the go ahead and unlocks the option ,,,,,,,,, i mean there has to be its Russian made it would have fired 3 times by now LOL
@willdunn8846
@willdunn8846 8 ай бұрын
Senor Raven keeping it Gen x. I’m here for it.
@bennuballbags2
@bennuballbags2 2 күн бұрын
To have your nukes operational it takes an entire army of engineers and scientists.....imagien how much HR it takes to keep these ready
@deadlyta
@deadlyta 6 күн бұрын
This system is why i worry about Ukraine going into kursk Especially if that radio signal that's rumored to be an all clear gets hit or effected Im sure the Soviets/Russians have safeguards But still worrisome
@albinobeach
@albinobeach 5 күн бұрын
Knowing the Russians of today, this machine is probably broken.
@benjimenfranklin7650
@benjimenfranklin7650 8 ай бұрын
And you don't think that America has a device like that. If you don't you been living under a rock.
@cascadianrangers728
@cascadianrangers728 8 ай бұрын
I love fail deadly systems
@brunosouza2918
@brunosouza2918 8 ай бұрын
》prof.brunotsouza 》(🧐)
@jorgezarco9269
@jorgezarco9269 4 ай бұрын
The Old Man in RoboCop 2(1990) tried to emulate Ronald Reagan. "A Fresh Start". Reagan was in a film called Kings Row. The Terminator(1984) borrowed ideas from The Outer Limits TV show. The climax was similar to West World(1973).
@TheSevien
@TheSevien 7 ай бұрын
That the incredible nuclear firepower of the soviet union landed in the hands of a regime composed of balding men copying the worst parts of their newfound co-shareholders historic culture, is possibly the greatest tragedy of modern politics.
@RebeccaCampbell1969
@RebeccaCampbell1969 3 ай бұрын
The concept exists since the dawn of humanity, it was the ancient Romans who named it: "... Parabelum..." or "if you want peace, prepare for war" The Soviets knew they were alone, sure Cuba and later Venezuela were "allies"... yet with friends like those who needs enemies. The USSR was alone against NATO/US which meant they were on the loosing side if a crazy Brit or American sent the nuclear bombers to attack them. So the Soviets made more thermonuclear weapons, equipped ICBM's with more powerful ones and more of them.... sure sure sure, that helped tilt the balance where it should belong... but it wasn't enough. The politics of "The People", nonsensical I know, limit the search for power for only the dear leader and a handful of Kremlin officials... while in the west this was for generals admirals and also weapon corporations lobbying the "democratic elected government". The amount of possible craziness was heavier in the west, far heavier. Super nuclear subs were developed by the Soviets for this reason... anything to keep the peace by fear as the same Americans did against the soviets.... but the west's posibiitity of craziness was always there. If this Soviet Skynet, or Colossus/Guardian (more real) was created... I am sorry but we all need to thank it for our survival... Parabellum... concept exists since the beginning of time, the word probably around Marcus Aurelius
@aerial558
@aerial558 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately we are living in even more uncertain times
@benjaminjones5029
@benjaminjones5029 8 ай бұрын
When i defected i told them i knew where the Russian moon base was
@benjaminjones5029
@benjaminjones5029 8 ай бұрын
I thought they'd laugh😅
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