The Spacing Guild of Dune

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@thezzach
@thezzach 6 жыл бұрын
He who controls the spice controls the universe of flavor.
@mediator_of_oaths
@mediator_of_oaths 4 жыл бұрын
Hit that with your Spice Weasel! BAM!
@thesurvivalist.
@thesurvivalist. 4 жыл бұрын
But it both expanded human Consciousness and made humanity addicted and limited in their expansion into space! It is why the Golden path was necessary!
@romankotas448
@romankotas448 4 жыл бұрын
And space travel
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 4 жыл бұрын
The Cajun Seasoning Must Flow
@jwr2904
@jwr2904 4 жыл бұрын
And only he who can destroy something can truly control it
@seaningram4434
@seaningram4434 6 жыл бұрын
"Folding Space ain't like dusting crops, boy" :) LOL
@Emperor_Palpatine_66
@Emperor_Palpatine_66 5 жыл бұрын
Good... Good....
@cowboyatthebebop
@cowboyatthebebop 5 жыл бұрын
this is not the franchise you are looking for haha
@cat77757
@cat77757 5 жыл бұрын
{Folding Space) is fallacious, for that, the elucidation of quantum particles and realtering the simulacrum of projected reality. IE: travel without movement - the illusion of distance.
@atomicsoham4864
@atomicsoham4864 3 жыл бұрын
Dune is OP they fold space with spice 🤣🤣🤣
@ChupeTTe
@ChupeTTe 3 жыл бұрын
I read fondling spacd aint like dusting crops.
@jdnelms62
@jdnelms62 6 жыл бұрын
Nice piece. I was a little surprised when I saw my artwork in there too, thanks for the credit.
@mariakelly5
@mariakelly5 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that there was a Spice Girl named Pumpkin Spice!
@happyhammer1
@happyhammer1 6 жыл бұрын
Which one is it?
@barabats
@barabats 6 жыл бұрын
the art which depicts the navigator is simply wrong....no expanded skulls etc...its all being described in the books....
@MV-ot8kr
@MV-ot8kr 6 жыл бұрын
@@happyhammer1 @ 2:55 for sure . All I know though .
@jacksondillard8363
@jacksondillard8363 5 жыл бұрын
@@barabats I don't think you understand concept art very well
@aaronarguelles8322
@aaronarguelles8322 7 жыл бұрын
Love, love, love, the Dune videos you make. Keep them coming!!! You narrate these so well and explain Dune books so well!!!
@goldblumlover3037
@goldblumlover3037 5 жыл бұрын
This series has been fantastic Its like traveling to a whole new world! Great job!!!!
@timyo6288
@timyo6288 3 жыл бұрын
keep them coming? make them stop!
@revspikejonez
@revspikejonez 5 жыл бұрын
I like to think of the Brian Herbert books as legends that exist in the Frank Herbert Dune series. These are the stories told, but whether or not they are entirely accurate is dubious.
@artembentsionov
@artembentsionov 5 жыл бұрын
That made sense for prequels set thousands of years ago (according to the books, they’re actually chronicles written down by Irulan). Not so much for stories intertwined with the original, like the fact that Paul wasn’t Leto’s first child.
@jasonhackett8407
@jasonhackett8407 2 жыл бұрын
Very well said. And with that little tidbit I may read them
@ernestolombardo5811
@ernestolombardo5811 6 жыл бұрын
With the Guild so clearly explained now, I would truly love to see a video also explaining the Combine Honette Ober Advancer Mercantiles, the difference between CHOAM and the Guild, as well as their relationship and points of friction (if any).
@williamberry4597
@williamberry4597 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great idea.
@tinachandler3091
@tinachandler3091 5 жыл бұрын
The extended universe books make a lot more sense and joins the other books beautifully, unlike other series. Explains a LOT. I'm reading Mentats of Dune and it really gets into how VenHold eventually became The Guild. This was wonderful
@MonolithMike
@MonolithMike 4 жыл бұрын
Tina Chandler Mentats of Dune is my favorite of them all w the exception of the first. 👍🏼
@auroramartell
@auroramartell 7 жыл бұрын
I love your Dune videos.
@coreystarkey3494
@coreystarkey3494 7 жыл бұрын
I love your Dune narrations! Please keep them coming!
@michellesanctuary9089
@michellesanctuary9089 6 жыл бұрын
“A beginning is a very delicate time. Know then, that is is the year 10191. The known universe is ruled by the Padishah Emperor Shaddam the Fourth, my father."
@MrFluffykat
@MrFluffykat 6 жыл бұрын
Your Father didn't protect you from the Candyman
@SabaDhutt
@SabaDhutt 6 жыл бұрын
The Spacing Guild sounds like the Knights Templar at the height of their power.
@reidsimpson4213
@reidsimpson4213 4 жыл бұрын
Like the Knights Templar crossed with Rothschild bankers lol.
@draxthemsklonst
@draxthemsklonst 4 жыл бұрын
@@reidsimpson4213 The Templars were a financial institution, in addition to what they're already known for.
@brettknoss486
@brettknoss486 4 жыл бұрын
Teamsters
@justwannagrill8548
@justwannagrill8548 4 жыл бұрын
Assassin's creed no real
@h.plovecat4307
@h.plovecat4307 4 жыл бұрын
@@justwannagrill8548 what does a gsme have to do with the real knights templar?
@bathoryaria4127
@bathoryaria4127 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a newcomer, but *Damn* I love this channel so far! Dune and ASOIAF are my two favorite novel series ❤
@tuber00009
@tuber00009 7 жыл бұрын
Spacing Guild is the Swiss Bank account of space travel. Thanks for the video, man.
@Kwasimitsu
@Kwasimitsu 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video!! So Glad you covered this. I think it appropriate to acknowledge Norma Cenva as apparently she was in the notes for the purported Dune 7, written by F. Herbert himself, which was the basis for Hunters of Dune and Sandworms of Dune
@wolf2965
@wolf2965 6 жыл бұрын
There is a quote in God Emperor of Dune where Leto remembers her: [Leto II]: "I course backward down the flight of ancestors, hunting along the tributaries, darting into nooks and crannies. You would not recognize many of their names. Who has ever heard of Norma Cenva? I have lived her!" "Lived her?" his imaginary visitor asked. "Of course- Why else would one keep one's ancestors around'' You think a man designed the first Guild ship:' Your history books told you it was Aurelius Venport? They lied. It was his mistress, Norma. She gave him the design, along with five children. He thought his ego would take no less. In the end. the knowledge that he had not really fulfilled his own image, that was what destroyed him." So Norma Cenva is canon, and remember that in context of people like Leto II, this also counts as first-person view - not a retelling of a story heard, an actual recollection of actual history. Kevin J. Anderson and Brian Herbert took this little bit and then made the character out of whole cloth, though. I am not necessarily a fan of the end result.
@chuppisensei6324
@chuppisensei6324 7 жыл бұрын
It's not necessarily faster than light speed travel; it's not about speed nor acceleration--it's about "travelling without moving." It's more like travelling thru a "Guild-made" wormhole.
@azmanabdula
@azmanabdula 6 жыл бұрын
Then you run into the problem of jumping into solid objects... You might end up in the middle of a wall
@CorpCoCEO
@CorpCoCEO 6 жыл бұрын
Well if we assume that the speed at which light moves from point a to point b is the defining point for light speed travel from a to b, I would definitely say that the guild, through instantaneous transport, provides travel at faster than light “speeds,” whether or not the ships actually accelerate.
@robertpalumbo9089
@robertpalumbo9089 6 жыл бұрын
Traveling without moveing speed is transfinite in number and form and case
@allentolman691
@allentolman691 6 жыл бұрын
no travel no movement no propulsion instead folding the established physical planes
@UDAMZ
@UDAMZ 6 жыл бұрын
@@azmanabdula that's why the navigators make incredible calculations in order to successfully travel.
@andrewbatts7678
@andrewbatts7678 5 жыл бұрын
Wow the spacing guild is like the Swiss banks of the future but instead of money it's travel
@andrewbatts7678
@andrewbatts7678 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, now that I read more they do banking too. I wonder what happened to Norma senva
@koatam
@koatam 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Templars. They assisted Christian pilgrims with travel and banking.
@Drunk.Cthulhu
@Drunk.Cthulhu 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just getting into dune. Sweet channel my dude 👌
@Bonez0r
@Bonez0r 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I could experience the books again for the first time, especially the first six written by Frank Herbert. I think it was about 25 years ago for me. Have fun! :D
@michaelmclaughlin261
@michaelmclaughlin261 5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing the influence Dune had on so many later sci-fi properties.
@kaffeestark4750
@kaffeestark4750 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Quinn, for your enlightening and very well produced videos on “Dune”. Looks like I’ve another bit of literature to explore in addition to the Lovecraft works.🤓
@eliasagritellis8426
@eliasagritellis8426 2 жыл бұрын
Great content! No matter how many times I’ve read these, I’ve learned something in each of your videos. Kudos and thank you so much for the time and effort you put into these! 👍🏼
@kalavera992
@kalavera992 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic as always! Your Dune videos are Melange to me! Thanks!
@danieltrujillo1570
@danieltrujillo1570 7 жыл бұрын
The best Dune lore videos with such narrative. Thank you for the content. Men, those navigators give me nightmares.
@jamesremington8056
@jamesremington8056 4 жыл бұрын
i rewatch your videos sometimes because apart from being entertaining, they are also very insightful. This line "Consider how in our own society certain ideas may be promoted as a way to manipulate the masses so that the powerful may benefit." absolutely blew my mind considering recent events.
@baka_geddy
@baka_geddy 3 жыл бұрын
You should read "1984" then
@rickwrites2612
@rickwrites2612 Жыл бұрын
​​@@baka_geddy eh it's much more obvious as Orwell was writing about authoritarianism in Europe during his lifetime. His memoir of fighting for the Spanish (leftwing) anarchists is great too.
@rickwrites2612
@rickwrites2612 Жыл бұрын
I found the Bene Gesserits religion seeding program to be very interesting in terms of social control.
@apollyonkatastrefia1586
@apollyonkatastrefia1586 5 жыл бұрын
I like the extended universe dune books I mean it gives you something to read and it's not like Frank Herbert is going to be writing any more of them
@ghivifahmi4252
@ghivifahmi4252 3 жыл бұрын
Dune lore readers: nooo the navigators are not folding space they are precalculating the moves needed to travel safely Dune 1984 watchers: haha space worm pukes and farts
@thoughtfuldevil6069
@thoughtfuldevil6069 5 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of the Creature from the Black Lagoon having psychic powers and piloting spacecrafts.
@JimmyBagOfDonuts
@JimmyBagOfDonuts 6 жыл бұрын
You know something?? I really like to watch these Dune videos. Thanks!
@RIXRADvidz
@RIXRADvidz 6 жыл бұрын
Dune was always a favorite, and these little snippets are tasty brain candy to re-energize my Tleilaxu practice. stretching, postures, mind sets, movement awareness, continued conditioning, complete isolation.
@milesc.anthony2811
@milesc.anthony2811 6 жыл бұрын
That could possibly explain why The Spacing Guild made constant trips to Ix, to keep tabs, attempt to manipulate.
@thewayfarer8849
@thewayfarer8849 7 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, a good Dune lore channel that *also* does ASOIAF. Wow, glad the recommended section isn't always misses
@BRBearUSA
@BRBearUSA 5 жыл бұрын
Nice. Impartial and mentioning the other books, with caveats. That’s professional.
@mdcraig62
@mdcraig62 6 жыл бұрын
Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?
@micahnewman
@micahnewman 6 жыл бұрын
Which means the hyperspace ramming depicted in ep. 8 is possible, contrary to some objections. Doesn't mean the movie isn't a mess, though.
@CJ-pj5gu
@CJ-pj5gu 6 жыл бұрын
Disagree, because hyperspace is not the same as relativistic velocity.
@CJ-pj5gu
@CJ-pj5gu 6 жыл бұрын
Rion Johnson dosent know how to into physics, but then again, hes not much of a director either.
@brianjungen4059
@brianjungen4059 6 жыл бұрын
So that was your move? You just lazily moved to the left.....
@hotsoupknor5657
@hotsoupknor5657 5 жыл бұрын
That's rather Asimov hyperspace
@SuperArppis
@SuperArppis 7 жыл бұрын
I hardly know anything about Dune books. Only seen the film once. So this is interesting to me. Keep up the good work.
@artembentsionov
@artembentsionov 5 жыл бұрын
In the Expanded Dune, Venport Holdings doesn’t become the Spacing Guild. Emperor Roderick shuts down the company. But he makes a deal with Norma Cenva to create the Spacing Guild in its stead, this time following the restrictions of the Jihad. Roderick finds value in that, since an EsconTran ship full of his troops ends up emerging within the photosphere of a star and burns up moments later.
@drm2566
@drm2566 7 жыл бұрын
Well done, these essays are excellent, the books created by Brian & Kevin are excellent and I have red and re-read them many times. Dean
@emilioolivieri9978
@emilioolivieri9978 7 жыл бұрын
Dr m Why do you think they're excellent?
@Anthony-gh5yu
@Anthony-gh5yu Жыл бұрын
THE SPICE MUST FLOW!
@florianadolf2256
@florianadolf2256 3 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that Frank Herbert already postulated, that folding space will be the means "propulsion" (if you still want to call it propulsion) of choice in the future.
@timmy1072
@timmy1072 Ай бұрын
WE LOVE YOU QUINN
@Kurzula5150
@Kurzula5150 5 жыл бұрын
1:23 This is how I felt the next day and for five subsequent days the last time I had speed.
@etcot8220
@etcot8220 4 жыл бұрын
Very well made and explained, thumbs up!
@jessstuart7495
@jessstuart7495 4 жыл бұрын
Toto extends life. Toto expands consciousness. Toto is vital to space travel.
@DarkKingHades
@DarkKingHades 5 жыл бұрын
The origins of the Spacing Guild are so much better without the prequel books ruining it.
@ZeusMcKraken
@ZeusMcKraken 6 жыл бұрын
A delightful return to one of the foundational influences of my life. Well done. Also sand trouts. 😂
@jimfulgham9644
@jimfulgham9644 5 жыл бұрын
Any relation to terrestrial Trouser trouts?
@RobertWF42
@RobertWF42 4 жыл бұрын
One small disappointment in the first Dune novel was the missed opportunity describing what it was like to travel by folding space in a Guild Heighliner. When House Atreides relocates in Dune, in one chapter they're on Caladan & next chapter they're on Arrakis moving into the palace.
@ormand3000
@ormand3000 3 жыл бұрын
RobertWF42, if you're so disappointed in that "missed opportunity", why don't you go ahead and write a book that still carries significance 60 years later and has been made into 3.5 movies, your heiness. The arrogance of some people on KZbin is amazing at times.
@RobertWF42
@RobertWF42 3 жыл бұрын
@@ormand3000 I didn't say it was a massive disappointment, only that Herbert could have made a great book even better if we had more insight into the Guild. It's not arrogance to offer criticism.
@ormand3000
@ormand3000 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobertWF42 I didn't say you said it was a "massive" dissapointment; I'm only carrying the same words you chose to describe Herbert's decisive ommision. And yes, it is pure arrogance, not criticism, as your remark is ego driven.
@pramienjager2103
@pramienjager2103 4 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy and appreciate your vids my dude. I especially liked what you said about those of us who generally ignore the fanfic-- err, expanded universe of KJA and BH, I feel like if I could read those novels in a vacuum, or had I read them first I would probably love them. I am sure they aren't bad and I am sure I have read and loved worse, but man. Trying to read them as part of Dune just hurts. I think I will try them as audio books.
@dankent8650
@dankent8650 7 жыл бұрын
Wonderful and detailed work! You always seem to be able to capture information that I had missed, when I read the books. Will you be able to do a piece on Sardaukar?
@Crysomandiaz
@Crysomandiaz 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I sometimes forget how much science fiction owes to Frank Herbert.
@jimmyhoffa2530
@jimmyhoffa2530 4 жыл бұрын
Dune is so trippy
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows 4 жыл бұрын
I always wondered how the Spacing Guild gained a monopoly. 10% chance of a ship been being lost when traveling without a Navigator is significant but humans have always been willing to take huge risks in pursuit of profit. For example, it's estimated that 1/5th of ships traveling from Europe to India were lost during the Age of Discovery. The Spacing Guild's monopoly gives them so much control over trade that there have to be a lot of people willing to take the risk of using ftl without Navigators in search of profit.
@patman0250
@patman0250 2 жыл бұрын
At 4:22 I could have swore for a second he said, invented space folding shit's 🤣. Couldn't stop myself from imagining it, poops folding in the air. lol
@tmcgrenere
@tmcgrenere 5 жыл бұрын
I really like your commentary.
@jackporkins41
@jackporkins41 5 жыл бұрын
Thought for sure you would talk about the Null ships, at least a little. They were basically the lynch pin to the ending of Frank Herbert's series.
@TheByteknight
@TheByteknight 2 жыл бұрын
A video on how smuggling works in Dune please. How do smugglers well.. smuggle things between star systems if they need the Guild to do so.
@Kirin2022
@Kirin2022 3 жыл бұрын
How does Frank Herbert (or anybody) explain that the Spacing Guild is not the sole superpower in the universe. The emperor's army, those of the great houses, the Bene Geserit, worlds with unique specialists, the Fremen jihadists ... none of them could travel the vast distances of the universe to get at each other or attack the members of the Spacing Guild without the latter's consent and assistance. Precisely because there are so many competing factions, the Spacing Guild was not dependent on any one customer and could selectively punish anybody that opposed them with only a temporary small loss of profit. They could give spice mining contracts on Arrakis to 10 or 20 different competing companies that dare not cross the Spacing Guild or else face being stranded with no hope of even resupply. What is there to counterbalance the power of the Spacing Guild?
@devvv4616
@devvv4616 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe cos they're just not interested in ruling. Just content with getting rich lol
@Minotaur-ey2lg
@Minotaur-ey2lg 4 жыл бұрын
Love the artwork at 1:30.
@MJHdesproj
@MJHdesproj 5 жыл бұрын
Killer finishing line dude!
@tallmikbcroft6937
@tallmikbcroft6937 7 жыл бұрын
I've been a fan of Dune for 30 years. I appreciate the work you've put into this channel. Especially the open minded approach the Brain's extended books. Great Job! please continue your work.
@reddsaxxmike2865
@reddsaxxmike2865 5 жыл бұрын
Spice taste like either TANG, or PUMPKIN SPICE.
@zanitzeuken
@zanitzeuken 6 жыл бұрын
I like your narration style and your use of the material. The pics are nice too, very interesting, varied, and relevant. I like the various styles and level of talent.
@JohnnyWorld
@JohnnyWorld 5 жыл бұрын
Never understood renegade houses hoarding atomics. Hitting a shield with a laser is much more powerful than atomics.
@artembentsionov
@artembentsionov 5 жыл бұрын
It’s also suicide. Then again, find some poor guy, promise to take care of his family, give him a lasgun, and send him against a shield.
@RVM451
@RVM451 6 жыл бұрын
Friends, Did anyone else notice the inconsistency in how the Navigators are described? In "Dune" there are two Navigators indistinguishable from normal humans. One of them is jostled and loses his contact lens that hides his melange addict eyes. However, in later books the Navigators are described as living in zero gravity and having frog-like webbing in the hands and feet-or maybe they're more like air-fish. I preferred keeping the Navigators more human. At any rate, I've never heard anyone discuss the discrepancy. …..RVM45
@principejones1342
@principejones1342 6 жыл бұрын
Three are two space Navigators the pilot and co pilot
@christinastanley2162
@christinastanley2162 6 жыл бұрын
The navigators constantly evolve and mutate through the contact of spice melange. The more mutated, the more powerful they are to fold space
@stevelopez372
@stevelopez372 5 жыл бұрын
Christina Stanley I’m not sure I understand, the more mutated, they are able to fold larger expanses of space?
@christinastanley2162
@christinastanley2162 5 жыл бұрын
The more mutated the more they can be trained to use prescience to fold space
@flyingfoamtv2169
@flyingfoamtv2169 2 жыл бұрын
@@christinastanley2162 there mutation would have litttle effect on the folding of space, navigators only guid the ship, they dont power it.
@plaguebutcherdk
@plaguebutcherdk 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid
@chrisradzion2148
@chrisradzion2148 5 жыл бұрын
Just found this series of videos. Great work! It’s sad no one has done a proper (imho) cinematic adaptation of the series (I like the Lynch movie, but it’s obviously a David Lynch movie. The miniseries was good too, but had limitations). I’d love to see “Dune” and it’s sequels get the kind of treatment that “Lord of the Rings” finally received (it’s basically the sci-fi equivalent of LoT, with its depth and detail). It really needs either a multipart movie, or a GoT style series type workup.
@czacza3221
@czacza3221 3 жыл бұрын
;)
@blakerackley4736
@blakerackley4736 7 жыл бұрын
You really should include info based off of the Sisterhood, Mentats, and Navigators of Dune text. There are loads of details given in those books, and while Brian Herbert's novels may be "controversial" he did in fact use notes kept by his father Frank (who created the whole universe after all). I love that you have created these videos, they are greatly informative. Thanks!
@SonofSethoitae
@SonofSethoitae 6 жыл бұрын
No they aren't. There's no proof those notes even exist. We only have Brian Herbert's word.
@cheetobuzz
@cheetobuzz 2 жыл бұрын
So far,the 'notes' were a page and a half long? Not near enough to really flesh out all the books made from them
@tommyt1971
@tommyt1971 4 жыл бұрын
"He who can destroy a thing has the real control of it."
@James-kv3ll
@James-kv3ll 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why anyone would want to become a gross alien thing in a tank but I guess they get paid well.
@devvv4616
@devvv4616 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao fr. That's just hideous and they seemed more like domesticated animals forced to work
@Dreckmal01
@Dreckmal01 7 жыл бұрын
Will you do any videos regarding the contentious nature of the Brian Herbert books?
@NewGoldStandard
@NewGoldStandard 5 жыл бұрын
Dayum son! You're pulling down a quarter million views on this content? Awww... gives me hope.
@emiliocamachoerice6380
@emiliocamachoerice6380 7 жыл бұрын
best dune videos ever
@leomartin6533
@leomartin6533 5 жыл бұрын
The way they travel in the DUNE UNIVERSE, is same way the non fictional Earth element Neodymium reacts when opposite charges meet one another. Just on a Larger scale.
@JohnG6
@JohnG6 3 жыл бұрын
So with all if the Ixian technology they couldn't figure out that if an infinite improbability drive was a virtual impossibility that all they had to do was figure out just how improbable it was, feed that into a finite improbability generator, give it a fresh cup of really hot tea, and turn it on?
@blindandwatching
@blindandwatching 4 жыл бұрын
The spice enhances the flavor of food. It makes people sneeze.
@KatAdVictoriam
@KatAdVictoriam 7 жыл бұрын
From ASOIAF to my other favorite series! How did I miss this?
@moguldamongrel3054
@moguldamongrel3054 7 жыл бұрын
Observing the Observer lol attempting to gain information by tapping the line?
@KatAdVictoriam
@KatAdVictoriam 7 жыл бұрын
Mogli Shakan Nah, just lamenting the failure of my Greenseeing and Bene Geserit abilities to keep me informed 😁
@moguldamongrel3054
@moguldamongrel3054 7 жыл бұрын
Observing the Observer funny thing about ice and fire. Seems to have been a term popularized by Martin's game of thrones. The dynamics of ice (representing jon snow) and fire (representing daenyrus) is that theirs some conflict between them. Their really was no conflict other then the pissantish bow to me for I am your queen followed by Jon's I'm the king and their are more important things to deal with. The alluded dynamic incompatibility of fire and ice was non existent when one saw the others actions deeds and words and vica versa as they were both in it for the best win possible throwing their own respective lives to the fire for the sake of there people. The whole pissantish bowing bit was story wise hammered out with Jon's terrible timing of ive already pledged allegiance bit but that was story wise jon snows honorable middle finger to queen bitch cersie lioness of the golden coin, but was factually hammered out in the bed cause you know pissantish politicking is non existent with some passionate love making. (Never mind the whole familial incest bit.) So the whole fire and ice conflict was non existent. Not sure why all these channels are cropping up using terms like this aside from popularity attempts. Also my comments more about the observing the observer bit. Certain parties make it a habit to steal ideas lacking their own for their own agendas. As tesla allegedly said "I'm not even mad that they stole all my ideas, I'm mad that they didn't have any of their own." Lol sorry had to edit out some spelling issues and leave in some grammatical errors.
@moguldamongrel3054
@moguldamongrel3054 7 жыл бұрын
Observing the Observer also great choice in books. Though I'm a bit of a purist and I find Brian Herbert's continuance of frank Herbert's works a bit of a dumbification.
@KatAdVictoriam
@KatAdVictoriam 7 жыл бұрын
Mogli Shakan I got my screen name based on the introspective, philosophical concept of being able to "observe the observer" who is yourself...your thoughts...your shadow/subconscious and learn from it, grow and become less judgmental/attached. I am VERY into Jungian psychology and his ideas. Jiddu Krishnamurti. Jordan Peterson. So, of course the phrase is not original. Lol. I personally do not believe Dany and Jon are the ice/fire conflict or the "song of ice and fire" The song of ice and fire, to me, represents the destructive nature of two elements that both see themselves as the Hero. George took the "ice and fire" bit from Robert Frost's amazing poem, after all.
@bryanmcclure2220
@bryanmcclure2220 7 жыл бұрын
Favorite dune faction. Benegesiret, Benetalax, spacing guild or fishspeackers.
@PollysPokePicks
@PollysPokePicks 7 жыл бұрын
Wow. Spell much. Fremen all the way tho.
@what76485
@what76485 2 жыл бұрын
Fold space so it’s non-Euclidean through the high liner? Navigators make sure the destination end of it isn’t inside a planet or star.
@exoplanet11
@exoplanet11 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Nice description. Makes me want to read the book which I know is much better than the movie.
@maggs131
@maggs131 3 жыл бұрын
Avoid obstacles in space? I thought that was the point of folding space, traveling without moving.
@taylorharbin3948
@taylorharbin3948 Жыл бұрын
Vladimir Harkonnen spends almost penny on military transport. Then, towards the end, you know things are coming to a head when Jessica says “What stays the Guild’s hand?” And Paul replies, divulging his plan, and then concludes “How they fear me.”
@borg0110
@borg0110 4 жыл бұрын
love what u are doing
@joshmaggard6
@joshmaggard6 6 жыл бұрын
Could Paul or Leto control a guild ship like a Guild navigator? They were both prescient, Leto to an extreme degree, so could they move themselves across the galaxy without need for interaction with the Guild?
@georgeorwell4534
@georgeorwell4534 6 жыл бұрын
I would imagine he could, being a Kwisatz Haderach.
@melvaburke2608
@melvaburke2608 6 жыл бұрын
Josh; It's Been Many Years Since I've Any Dune Novels, But I Seem To Remember That They Were Built In "Complete" Secrecy! Like The Stealth Bomber!
@imnothere220
@imnothere220 4 жыл бұрын
What's the spice called again?
@joeskis
@joeskis 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure which artist rendering of the guild I like best.
@MrUfojunkiedavid
@MrUfojunkiedavid 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation
@Sephiroth144
@Sephiroth144 5 жыл бұрын
So, is it 1/10 ships are lost without the Navigators, or 1/10 trips were lost? Also, what is the benefit for Navigators to, frankly, become Navigators? They live, pilot ships, are trapped in cages... I don't get what the appeal would be to travel, trapped in a fishbowl, unable to really do anything with any presumed pay, and an extended life... is still in a fishbowl.
@flyingfoamtv2169
@flyingfoamtv2169 2 жыл бұрын
only the stage three's need to be submersed in spice-gas, and the chance of ever becoming a stage three is very small.
@jalocin
@jalocin 4 жыл бұрын
I just reread Dune and I came across the scene close to the final when Paul meets the emperor and two Guild embassadors. They confirm Paul’s rather rethorical question if they are guild navigators, yet before they have been described as two rather fat man wearing gray guild uniforms. No word on being mutants floating in tanks... I am a little confused. Does anyone have an explanation for that or am I missing something?
@RD-lt3ht
@RD-lt3ht 4 жыл бұрын
I can't remember which, but the mutant navigators are described in one of the Dune sequels, either "Children" or "Heretics".
@jalocin
@jalocin 4 жыл бұрын
Laltluangliana Sailop that’s what I thought as well, the two are probably just pretending to be navigators
@flyingfoamtv2169
@flyingfoamtv2169 2 жыл бұрын
that could be explained by the different levels of navigators.
@jalocin
@jalocin 2 жыл бұрын
@@flyingfoamtv2169 that’s interesting! Do you remember where to find that?
@Daryl524
@Daryl524 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate these explanations. Now I’m gonna get blunted and fold space too. And you ask; how can this be? For I am the KWISATZ HADERACH!!
@09tomforeman
@09tomforeman 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like games workshop ‘borrowed’ some of this for their navigators 😂
@SzTz100
@SzTz100 4 жыл бұрын
Why is Dune so nuts? I read somewhere Frank Herbert developed these ideas during the psychedelic 60s
@milesteg8627
@milesteg8627 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad Norma Cenva was acknowledged. I absolutely accept Brian Herbert's contribution as part of the canon. They aren't High Literature but they're indispensable to understanding the Dune universe and history.
@spudthepug
@spudthepug 7 жыл бұрын
And it’s not like we’re going to get anything else. Frank Herbert died decades ago.
@anwaraisling
@anwaraisling 7 жыл бұрын
Brahm Erson, not really Brian’s contribution. Those stories were based upon Frank’s notes. Consequently, you could call it a collaboration.
@anwaraisling
@anwaraisling 7 жыл бұрын
spudthepug, read my other statement.
@chaosblaziken1
@chaosblaziken1 7 жыл бұрын
Norma Cenva was mentioned first on God Emperor of Dune as the inventor of the Holtzman engine. She was always canon
@rogergoddard1234
@rogergoddard1234 6 жыл бұрын
There is very little that Brian and Kevin have mentioned that wasn't in Frank's books. But some want to pick apart minor inconsistencies that Frank made difficult to work around. Just got around to reading Navigators. Explains beautifully when, how, and why the guild was formed.
@SabaDhutt
@SabaDhutt 4 жыл бұрын
Dune movie trailer before the video. Now that’s smart advertising.
@eraldylli
@eraldylli 6 ай бұрын
Why didnt the Fremen exhibit similar mutations? They are in contact with large amounts of the spice the whole time too, not unlike the Navigators.. The space is everywhere; in the air, water, and food as well. Isn't it? Shouldn't the Fremen have webbed fingers at least?
@Galejro
@Galejro 6 жыл бұрын
So navigators are basically human mutants? That's a new thing to learn... Kinda explains why in Dune we got no aliens as we understand them.
@kelvinh8327
@kelvinh8327 5 жыл бұрын
The Navigators were not twisted and deformed humans (that I recall in Dune and Dune Messiah). That came from David Lynch's film. They had blue eyes like the Freman and wore contact lenses to cover that fact. As I recall, Paul mused that he too could be a Navigator and escape the burden of his destiny.
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 6 жыл бұрын
So, after the Ixians invent safe space folding without spice, then the price of spice goes down given that there's less demand. So then, is the Guild still capable of attaining enough spice to stay active and competitive or does their navigator method die out?
@The3gg
@The3gg 4 жыл бұрын
He who controls spice, controls flavor town
@jessereiter328
@jessereiter328 6 жыл бұрын
Two hands pressed together!
@brahsumatra
@brahsumatra 3 жыл бұрын
The Spice Must Flow.
@RandomTrinidadian
@RandomTrinidadian 3 жыл бұрын
He who controls the Spice... Controls the universe.....
@chrisdaily2077
@chrisdaily2077 3 жыл бұрын
"The guild... does not take your orders!"
@cosman24
@cosman24 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@kxvxn01
@kxvxn01 8 ай бұрын
About to take a shit, searched for a short video for it, thats perfect🔥
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