The Spiritualist Movement - Episode 14 Branham Historical Research Podcast

[@pbcaylor_1]

These have been fascinating and enlightening. I am realizing that it’s quite possible I am coming out of a cult … in a thousand years … at this point in my life … I never would have thought I would be susceptible to being involved in a cult … b/c a huge part of what God has called me to is exposing false teachers, teachings, and doctrines … especially w/in Christendom … thank you for all your hard work and being so vulnerable! You are making a difference in more ways than you intended or imagined when you started this journey! ❤❤❤

[@Caringheart05]

Same……I am learning so much, went through a traumatic experience

[@Debunker450]

Thank you for revealing all of this. Was surrounded by people who lauded Branham and similar 'prophets' today. We were encouraged to both ask for prayer and prophecy and be involved in giving prophetic words as well. Had to repent. I was completely blind to it. A lot of ego and pride in it all. One more layer of deception gone.

[@glt-e3n]

"And praying for you breaks my watch..." 😆 Good one, Charles!

[@lauriaendy4595]

Great exposition! God bless you both!

[@brothercaleb]

Spiritualism, eastern mysticism, fortune telling, astrology and magic. No wonder this period produced a lot of practitioners purporting to be of God-conjurors of practices far removed from scripture. And it appears that as the movement went through ebbs and flow it produced groups that eventually splintered into warring factions … sometimes at loggerheads with others or plagued with infighting. Using scripture coupled by these Ill-practices as a battering ram. What would a vulnerable lay person do in the face of these “signs and wonders”… duplicitously placed in scripture to thwart any attempt to question? And If one attempted to critically examine them, fear tactics was a weapon of choice. No wonder millions were caught up in its web-it was inevitable as men became powerful and influential. Not anymore. It’s time to look deeply into what actually went on. These episodes are fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@carlosparra1777]

@Lelk Hope I remember seeing that in his den. Wooow

[@quietday2]

Fascinating info on the history of Indiana.

[@pamelaarcher2478]

It's only for the bride . How u deny the truth the same as the pharisees either He is the position of God or he wasn't . Your choice. .brother ibranham isn't the issue . It's better to have the rite spirit n a wrong doctrine than wrong spirit n rite doctrine .to love God with all thy heart. If it's deception God still saving .if your wrong you'll stand front of God . If the message was deception wer still in . How u have a program to deny bro. Ibranham shows your no t free yourself.if you knew the truth u would b rejoicing in the truth. It's all by n only a revelation. Lord open your eyes. 🙏.

[@bigtobacco1098]

Still so many charismatics here

[@violamezei6193]

Even hours after listening to it, the pennies keep dropping, so to say. It may even turn out that the beginning of something we thought was "God's work" was wrong. Here in Hungary, I was told about the start of my former charismatic church, that back in the late 1970s (during the socialist era), someone supposedly smuggled in a Derek Prince teaching on " sorcery", which "brought a big breakthrough". By sorcery Derek basically meant manipulation and control but he taught that this phenomenon was caused by demons, and in hindsight, this became the basis for finding a demon for everything. The current lead pastor, based on Derek's teaching, "found" that his fellow church planter's strong Roman Catholic background (the demons coming from his parents) was "hindering revival" and effectively succeeded in expelling him from the church. Everybody was amazed by the pastor's spiritual insights and he became the only, unquestionable leader of the church. And from then on, the pains and ailments he experienced in his physical body became indicators of demons. In retrospect, this was a perfect breeding ground for control and manipulation (the very thing they wanted to "cast out" originally), because everyone began to fear the pastor, wondering what he saw in us, what kind of demon... I heard from friends that he preached even recently about feeling a severe depression before a church service, which led him to conclude that "rebellious Christians would be sitting in the worship service that evening". Also, this kind of teaching lead to the breakdown of family relationships like kids accusing their parents that they pass on generational curses and demons to them, even poor granny's cake transmitted family demons etc... so these are all rotten fruits, to be honest... and now the roots have become clear (although I still don't know what to think of Derek Prince, he seemed to be a balanced teacher in some other aspects, at least compared to the "wilder" charismatics).

[@michaelciccone2194]

Joseph Smith, founder of Mormon church, was brought up in a world of spiritualism. Folk religion and the occult was part of the culture of 19th century New York State culture.

[@derdeolifant]

Blotches that appear when you look at things: if you're in a brightly lit room, you can see blotches that come and go, and seem to run away from your focus, where the brightness of the light has somewhat damaged your sight.

[@michaelciccone2194]

Very interesting video! The Spiritualist movement made headway in Southeastern Pennsylvania...Ephrata, PA...years ago. Camp Silver Belle was a Mecca of Spiritualism,...the founder came from Camp Chesterfield !

[@GregIsmail-c3u]

I am totally agree with The potcast greate work keep up.........

[@violamezei6193]

Thanks for all the research, it was really eye-opening! It explains a lot. We came out of a large charismatic church a few years ago so it'll be very interesting to see how the Word of Faith movement, Kenneth Hagin and the likes come into the picture. By the way, I follow your channel from Hungary, Europe. I first saw the Cultish interview series with John, then I've found this youtbue channel. Now I'm binge watching it...

[@lesliewells1062]

Thanks for dissecting all this for us. I can see WMB in the Land of Oz, saying, don't look behind the curtain!! I am the Great. Oz...I mean I am the angel to the Church of Laodecia, I am the fulfillment of Malachi 4!!! Don't look behind the curtain, stay away from the curtain!!! And his followers are there, doing everything they can to stop people---Stay away from that curtain and if you don't you are of the Devil!!!

[@JohnDoe-of9vc]

I see the followers of the NAR and televangelist faith healers being blinded in the same way. I have a friend who believes the NAR and televangelist no matter what they do or say. I told this friend the story of Smith Wigglesworth throwing a baby against the wall and then kicking it like a soccer ball to heal the baby. He tells me he doesn’t believe he said that, and people make things up to ruin faith healers ministries. I sent him a video of Sid Roth, who he loves, telling that same story. He instantly changed from he didn’t say that to who am I to judge how God would heal a baby. Then told me I needed to be very careful what I say about these “men of god”. I was absolutely shocked. He’s a very smart man. He believes in Christ and the Bible. Yet he could not see his 180 flip from thinking that can’t be true, to who are you to judge. I am a believer in Christ and was shocked at how cult like it felt talking to my friend. Amazing job! I love the work you’re doing!

[@IC-XC_NIKA]

I am out of the charismatic movement and the Pentecostal Church for a long time, but I believe that the information you are uncovering calls into question everything from Azusa Street on… and charismatic Christianity is the most popular form of Christianity in the world today! Is this the Great Apostasy?

[@BC-qb2if]

Todd White of the NAR is doing the exact same thing today.

[@cdb2161]

Todd white recently asked God to give him WB anointing.

[@EnlighteningTopics]

Elvis also had Black backup singers. Whitney Houston’s mother was one of his backup singers.

[@CitizenLutz]

While I only wrapped about 4 years of my life around this, it was a big mistake that still affects me 20 years later.

[@kramsdrawde8159]

wow...how so ???

[@CitizenLutz]

@@kramsdrawde8159 " When the truth is found to be lies and all the joy within you dies..." Jefferson Airplane.

[@ivanasimic2072]

same here

[@richardhartman490]

Way Ward ... you will find a way forward (if you have not already} . Be of good cheer !

[@TheStarisis]

And before I was born again, raised Lutheran, but my adult life wasn’t with Christ but always seeking God, this sounds like exactly like it and I was in an occult then born again, this is like my occult life

[@lindajohnson4204]

I read that he said that "ESP is the spirit of prophecy".

[@Star-dj1kw]

❤❤ amazing research.

[@niemand262]

2:00 Pratt Street, this tiny advertizement unravels Branham's life story.

[@BC-qb2if]

Could the spiritualism been a building block in the Word of Faith theology? The power of the mind = faith as a force?

[@LeavingtheMessage]

Hold that thought for a future episode ;)

[@roberteaston6413]

Some of that came out of New England thought sciences from the 1840's. Christian Science is an example of that. Also the USA lost 620,000 men in the Civil War. Most of them were young men. For surviving relatives there was a desire to communicate with these dead young men. The result was an interest in seances(Also in Britain, too). Abraham Lincoln had seances in the White House, as had lost a son, too.

[@a.leemorrisjr.9255]

I really like your intro music😀. What's it called? Who's the artist(s) who composed/recorded it?

[@LeavingtheMessage]

It's mine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5yrd5KDhdp_ZpI

[@farmchick5705]

The spiritual loosey-goosey end of things helped me realize unequivocally that Branham et all who walked with him were corrupt to the core. They were NOT OF GOD!

[@lesliewells1062]

What about all the people WMB told to move to the Park in Prescott, AZ? That wasn't ok, either!

[@lesliewells1062]

@Lelk Hope Yes he was--at the Park. And now he is on death row.

[@suechapel1443]

False faith healer Peter Popoff had his wife cue him by telling him about the people that needed healing through ear microphones. Benny Hinn did the same thing later on.

[@jerrysullivan8424]

@@eagleeyes6642 I do not think that the technology was around then, but Billy Paul knew how to communcate to him. much like the death sign langage is use today.

[@joelquinones6157]

​@@jerrysullivan8424but also devil knows where we live and he comunicates with his prophets and false teachers remember in the bible the lady with spirit of divination Acts 16:16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: SO devil has Powers but bible says Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. so thats the clue

[@EnlighteningTopics]

Is it possible there’s some sorcery going on from listening to the tapes? For all we know WMB could be working some magic on people’s minds that’s why his teachings has such a stronghold on people.

[@jerseycowboy1]

Even cartoon characters were considered demons...and you should not allow your kids to watch them.

[@dannyboi_663]

Donald Duck is of Satan and you know it😡

[@TheStarisis]

But you Gus this is exactly what new age does

[@trejea1754]

I was confused when I heard WMB talk about these mental tricks and spiritualists. I began to think maybe they weren’t taboo…

[@themaranathaplumbline2023]

I always laugh at shave and a haircut two bit

[@jerrysullivan8424]

I wish that it was that cheap now, I paid 25 Dollars for my last haircut and shave.

[@therecoverytabernacle]

Sounds like Todd white leg trick

[@johnnydee79]

Where online can I find the article mentioned at the start of the podcast?

[@thedustiswipedoffofourfeet3244]

WM R. Davis Gunsmith He had been in Logan (Logansport IN) before 1849 but had returned. He was in the building where W (?) H. Gridley had been. (This is probably a letter upside down and should be M.) Editor stated that "guns of his own manufacture were beautiful specimens of art". Feb. 1853 it was Wm. R. Davis and Son. I think they were located at 303 E. Market St. They had sporting apparatus, powder flasks, shot piuches, Ely's wire cartridges, Baldwin wads, Bowie knives, rifles with the Gaining twist and patent muzzles. Paper stated it was second door east of Barnett House at 51 Market St.

[@dannyboi_663]

It seems like the very word spirit stemmed from people not understanding how the mind works.

[@dannyboi_663]

The word "seems" implies that I don't know. However I've never seen any verified evidence for a spirit. There are countless lab tested examples of human brains powered by eletrical impulses. If you have some academically verified evidence for spirits I would love you to tell me where I can find it.

[@dannyboi_663]

I agree that trying to verify the spirit academically is vanity. If someone receives brain damage, their decisions and actions change drastically. Therefore it seems apparent that the brain is the choice maker, no added spirit or soul etc. needed.

[@forkids1212]

Our Precious Brother William Branham...

[@lioneagle418]

Your foolishness is beyond belief !

[@therichisonfamily2187]

At 34 minutes.... what about the Angel troubling the water of Bethesda pool at certain seasons?

[@Charles-Paisley]

That is a great example! There is nothing in scripture to suggest that the practice at that pool was endorsed by God. There is substantial evidence, both from scripture and historically, that pool was actually tied to paganism. And in the passage Jesus corrects the lame man waiting on the pool to be stirred, indicating that he should have instead been looking to God for deliverance. The site is fairly well known to have been a place dedicated to the Greek god Asclephion. A quick review of scholarship on the pool of Bethesda will reveal a strong majority opinion that the site was pagan, and the angel being referenced is a false pagan God, and Jesus chose the site and healed the lame man as a direct challenge to paganism. Give it a Google and see what you find. It's interesting stuff to look at. There's also a strong implication in the 14th verse of that chapter, that the man had been sinning, and in context, the only thing we are aware he was doing was laying at that pool waiting for an angel to come heal him. So what's that the sin he was committing?

[@Caringheart05]

The sin was NOT putting his trust in the God to be healed and was just a fixture of self-pity

[@GregIsmail-c3u]

The are still in south Africa lotts of message churches that still preaching this cult dooms day message come out back to the bible u have no idea what u are into .........

[@ariluv83]

Charles states "Satan can give dreams we see that in the Bible". Can he give some scriptures for that statement please?

[@Charles-Paisley]

I don't see that in the transcript. Care to share the timestamp? But to answer your question, which does not appear to be related to this video, if you look at the temptation of Jesus, you see the devil gave Jesus visions.

[@ariluv83]

@Charles-Paisley I don't remember the timestamp I'll have to go back and re-listen. Unless I commented on the wrong video which is entirely possible since I had you guys constantly playing back to back. I was just curious because I was trying to remember the devil giving someone a dream in the Bible. Yes you're correct he did show Jesus visions but I still can't remember an instance of him giving dreams. Thank you for your response Charles. I'll give the time stamp after I rewatch.

[@Charles-Paisley]

@@ariluv83 I don't recall that being a part of this video. Or any other. So if you can give a timestamp I'd be glad to respond to the point being made in the video. In relation to dreams specifically, I think any Christian would agree that nightmares do not come from God. It's not God who is attempting to cause people to be tormented with fear, that is incongruent with his character. Many people have sick and twisted dreams. It could lead you down a very dark road to believe your dreams are immune from evil.

[@joseluisperez9582]

Dios tenga misericordia de aquéllos que hablan mal del ciervo de Dios

[@pamelaarcher2478]

If u guys truly had the Lord who your denying.youd have peace .not showing how wrong bro ibranham was . It's all the Bible that he lived picking out n stretching the truth to your own pride.. 🙏

[@BillyPaulBranham]

Denying of the prophet is denying the Lord, because the Elijah of our day is the Lord Jesus Christ. One day, everyone who has denied the prophet will stand before him to answer for their deeds.

[@iw9338]

Have you read the book of Jude? Or 1 Timothy?

[@elwingw4321]

Expose works of darkness. Wolves in the pulpits need to be exposed . They lead men to destruction.

[@jknga5869]

So, when Paul called out people teaching false doctrine, then told us to do the same thing, we're not supposed to because William Branham said not to?

[@pamelaarcher2478]

U guys denying the gifts n power of the Holy Spirit .nothing to do with bro. Ibranham. 👀

[@bigtobacco1098]

Prophets today are mostly wrong and tongues today are gibberish

[@pamelaarcher2478]

I prayy you have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Your either rite or wrong. If your wrong .ouch.

[@joseluisperez9582]

Ya lo han hecho

[@bigtobacco1098]

What does the evidence say ??