(The square root of 8 plus 1) divided by the square root of 8 =? Basic Algebra!

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@YourserverNYC
@YourserverNYC 29 күн бұрын
Too much bla, bla, bla.
@userb025
@userb025 25 күн бұрын
exactly. ridiculous wading through this.
@markmauldin1327
@markmauldin1327 Ай бұрын
You made this more complicated than necessary. An equally valid answer is 1 + 1/2*sqrt (2) and you can get there in 3 steps (Sqrt(8) +1)/sqrt (8) = sqrt (8)/sqrt(8) + 1/sqrt(8) Simplifying you get 1 + 1/sqrt(8) = 1 + 1/2sqrt(2)
@affoxiii
@affoxiii 24 күн бұрын
Agreed, too much talking about how to do it wrong & never gets to answer. Never spend time on the wrong way, Always refer & APPLY the basic properties (Assoc, Com, Dist, Eq & introduce vinculum). Here numerator tell us how many denominators are added. The rest is confusion. KISS - they will figure out the rest.
@user-ky5dy5hl4d
@user-ky5dy5hl4d 16 күн бұрын
I can't agree with you. What he is doing is showing not how quickly or in the least amount of steps you can solve it but logic behind all this and widen the knowledge how to get to the solution. This may be useful in more complicated math problems.
@Gideon_Judges6
@Gideon_Judges6 6 күн бұрын
I got 1 + sqrt(2)/4. I think perhaps something is wrong in your notation of the final simplified answer.
@markmauldin1327
@markmauldin1327 6 күн бұрын
@@Gideon_Judges6 nope my simplification is correct. In fact they both are. 1/sqrt(8) = 1/sqrt(4*2) = 1/(2*sqrt(2)) = sqrt(2)/4 Multiply 1/2sqrt(2) by sqrt(2)/sqrt(2) and you get sqrt(2)/4
@user-ky5dy5hl4d
@user-ky5dy5hl4d 6 күн бұрын
@@Gideon_Judges6 Yes, he did not go on to simplify all the way. But there is nothing wrong in his answer. It's just not finished completely. You are correct. If you take two more steps you get what you have written. I did, too.
@delilahscott5753
@delilahscott5753 15 күн бұрын
It doesn't require an 18 minute explanation !
@Dr_piFrog
@Dr_piFrog 25 күн бұрын
Congratulations -- you made a simple process very complicated. ----> (4 + sqrt(2))/4
@user-ky5dy5hl4d
@user-ky5dy5hl4d 16 күн бұрын
I can't agree with you. What he is doing is showing not how quickly or in the least amount of steps you can solve it but logic behind all this and widen the knowledge how to get to the solution. This may be useful in more complicated math problems.
@Dr_piFrog
@Dr_piFrog 11 күн бұрын
@@user-ky5dy5hl4d Occam's razor. Best logic is the most efficient. Efficiency is important in mathematics, physics, and computer programming.
@user-ky5dy5hl4d
@user-ky5dy5hl4d 11 күн бұрын
@@Dr_piFrog Correct. Logic is important in religions, too. Logic will lead to a conclusion that all religions are total BS.
@TheRedMenace12
@TheRedMenace12 Ай бұрын
Answer starts at 8:10
@piotrnowak1272
@piotrnowak1272 20 күн бұрын
Solve? Is it equation? I don't think so.
@paulflannigan888
@paulflannigan888 Ай бұрын
I guess I don't understand how the "answer" is really any better than the "problem".
@kimobrien.
@kimobrien. Ай бұрын
You want to get an integer plus or minus a fraction with whole number in the denominator to get a standard value.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
​@@kimobrien.You'll need to try that again. That didn't make any sense. The person you replied to raised a completely valid point. The "answer" in this video is not a solution to or simplification of the original expression. It's just a different way of expressing the same thing.
@kimobrien.
@kimobrien. Ай бұрын
@@gavindeane3670 You do this type of simplification in preparation for a decimal approximation. Doing the approximation of any root and dividing by a whole number is almost always much simpler than dividing a whole number by the decimal approximation or doing multiply decimal approximations and then multiplication or division. Also the smaller the number under the root sign the easier it is to calculate the approximation. It also provided a standard way to compare numbers like this. When I was in HS we didn't have hand held calculators either.
@kimobrien.
@kimobrien. Ай бұрын
@@gavindeane3670 The correct answer is 1+√2/4
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
@@kimobrien. Rationalising the denominator is not simplifying. Rationalising the denominator is rationalising the denominator. It might be a useful thing to do sometimes, but he isn't presenting us with a particular requirement of some operation or calculation we need to do next. You are just assuming that the thing we need to do next is a thing that would be easier without a radical in the denominator. Even if that were true it's still not correct to describe the re-expression of (1+√8)/√8 as (4+√2)/4 or 1+√2/4 as "simplification". It's just expressing the same thing in a different way. In the video he claims we are "solving" or "simplifying" the original expression. That's nonsense. All he needs to do is change the question to "Can you rationalise the denominator?". Then (4+√2)/4 and 1+√2/4 would be correct answers to that question. As the question is currently posed, (4+√2)/4 and 1+√2/4 cannot reasonably be described as "answers" at all.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
Whilst it is true that (√8+1)/√8 is the same as (4+√2)/4, the idea that the first one is a question and the second one is the answer is just silly.
@CAustin582
@CAustin582 28 күн бұрын
You can't have radicals in the denominator.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 28 күн бұрын
@@CAustin582 Of course you can have radicals in the denominator. It's perfectly fine. He uses a term with a radical in denominator in this very video. He multiplies the expression by √8/√8, thereby demonstrating that radicals in denominators are not just perfectly fine, they can also be useful. Rationalising the denominator is not "solving" or "simplifying". Rationalising the denominator is rationalising the denominator. If he'd posed the question as "Can you rationalise the denominator?" then there would be no problem. (√8+1)/√8 and (4+√2)/4 are just different but equally valid and correct ways of expressing the same value. This obsession he has with not permitting radicals in denominators is not mathematics. It's just needless dogma.
@CAustin582
@CAustin582 28 күн бұрын
@@gavindeane3670 Of course it's fine to have radicals in the denominator in your steps or as part of the problem. The point is that it's not accepted as part of the solution.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 28 күн бұрын
@@CAustin582 It's not accepted as part of the solution BY THIS GUY. Mathematically it's perfectly acceptable and normal. For example, the world is full of mathematicians and scientists and engineers who know that the sine and cosine of 45 degrees is 1/√2. In this video he starts with an expression of the form (a+b)/c and he ends up with an expression of the form (a+b)/c. Regardless of what he says in the video, he has not in any way simplified the expression. It is exactly as simple as it was to start with. And "solve" is completely inappropriate for this.
@CAustin582
@CAustin582 27 күн бұрын
@@gavindeane3670 Then you could also argue that 2/6 is just as valid of an answer as 1/3. Having a radical in the denominator doesn't break any rules of math; it's just a common convention for simplification. This guy definitely didn't make it up.
@luizmorais966
@luizmorais966 8 күн бұрын
Perfect! If I'm going in a shop to buy some tiles for my bathroom, the seller ask me "how many sqt do you need?" Obviously I'll answer 4+root os 2 divided by 4! It's super usefull and effective!
@dougnettleton5326
@dougnettleton5326 Ай бұрын
If this is the correct answer, I would suggest the question should be: "Can you simplify to a common rational denominator?" I'm not sure how either the answer given or 1 + sqrt(2) / 4 "solves" the problem.
@Astrobrant2
@Astrobrant2 Ай бұрын
Well, it was (4 + √2)/4, but that is the simplest form. Not all simplifications give you something a LOT simpler. I think one point he was making here is that by convention, a radical should not be in the denominator. I don't really understand the reason for that (I've seen it in another video) but rules is rules, I guess.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
Exactly. It's not a solution at all. Rationalising the denominator is not "simplifying" or "solving". Rationalising the denominator is just rationalising the denominator.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
​@@Astrobrant2(4+√2)/4 is no simpler than the original expression. Rationalising the denominator is not "simplifying" or "solving". Rationalising the denominator is just rationalising the denominator. You say you don't really understand this convention of not having a radical in the denominator. That's probably because there is no good reason for such a convention. It's just needless dogma. Indeed, in this very video he specifically uses a term that DOES have a radical in the denominator. He multiplies the entire thing by √8/√8, thereby demonstrating that radicals in denominators are not just OK, they can in fact be useful.
@ElZedLoL
@ElZedLoL Ай бұрын
​@@gavindeane3670u put me feelings into words. Thank you.
@burrbonus
@burrbonus Ай бұрын
@@Astrobrant2 : The form with the "simpler" denominator would be easier to use if long division was the only method available for obtaining a decimal approximation.
@user-ux8yj7lf8n
@user-ux8yj7lf8n Ай бұрын
This can be simplified in five lines in less than 10 seconds.
@generessler6282
@generessler6282 25 күн бұрын
There isn't a solution to an expression. You might simply it if clearly stated rules describing simplest forms are given first.
@JeffreyBroussard-ke1wu
@JeffreyBroussard-ke1wu 20 сағат бұрын
I'm pretty mind-blown that this is an 18 minute video for this problem.
@silverhammer7779
@silverhammer7779 Ай бұрын
When you say, "Can you solve?," that means, "What is the numerical value of this expression?" In this case, it is 1.3536. The question should be, "Can you reduce this expression?" For some reason, the presenter has an obsessive attachment to the idea that no expression should have a radical in the denominator. It's almost as bad as his near obsession with PEMDAS. In the Real World, where we want to see numbers, it makes absolutely no difference if there is a radical in the denominator or not.
@Grimmerkinderheim
@Grimmerkinderheim Ай бұрын
🤓☝️
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
It's not even "Can you reduce this expression?". It's just "Can you rationalise the denominator?". That's literally all he's done. The expression starts in the form (a+b)/c and by the end it's still in the form (a+b)/c.
@harrymatabal8448
@harrymatabal8448 Ай бұрын
Silver hammer. You are perfectly correct. Can you solve what?. You really hammered him. Good work.
@harrymatabal8448
@harrymatabal8448 Ай бұрын
John is just wasting our time. He should visit the John with sandpaper
@silverhammer7779
@silverhammer7779 Ай бұрын
@@harrymatabal8448 Rough crowd in here today...😁😲
@lisabruneau3801
@lisabruneau3801 Ай бұрын
Could you make it any harder.
@JasmineDaisy111
@JasmineDaisy111 11 күн бұрын
😂
@mr.mxyzptlks8391
@mr.mxyzptlks8391 Ай бұрын
Multiply top and bottom by sqrt(8). Get 8 as the denominator (rationalize 🤓), multiply out the nominator to 8 + sqrt(8), and go from there. Not yet watched the vid, but I feel a bit more can be done. However, for the purpose of the exercise, I guess, the denominator, I’d give at least 80% credit at this stage 😎
@danz9044
@danz9044 25 күн бұрын
No one thinks the answer is 1. This was way more confusing than it needed to be.
@robertloveless4938
@robertloveless4938 Ай бұрын
Here's an idea. How about getting right to solving (simplifying) the problem instead of showing us 5 ways how NOT to solve it? 95% of those who will take the time to watch the solution akready understand the concepts of identity and distribution, so it's not necessary to show us. For the few who don't , refer them to a separate tutorial about those things, and when they are good with that, THEN they can come back and apply those concepts to this problem. 90% of this video is a waste of time for 95% of the viewers.
@ritaparker478
@ritaparker478 22 күн бұрын
I don't believe that this site is for people who want to proclaim their mathematical genius to the world, but instead is for dullards like me.
@ricardomccloskey3655
@ricardomccloskey3655 7 күн бұрын
no wonder so many people don't like math....if you need help falling asleep, this is a good vid to watch...
@bigdog3628
@bigdog3628 11 күн бұрын
super simple: First step: reduce √8 + 1 to 2√2 + 1. Numerator is now 2√2 + 1 Second step: denominator is irrational due to the root sign so we rationalize it by multiplying the numerator and the denominator by √8 Numerator: (2√2 + 1) * √8 which is 2√16 + 2√2 which reduces further to 8 + 2√2. Now the denominator: √8 * √8 is just 8. Third Step reduce fraction further. 8, 2 , 8 can all be divided by 2 so factor out a 2 and we get the final answer of (4 +√2) / 4. Because BOTH the 4 AND the √2 are divided by 4 we can NOT reduce this further. Like I said super simple if you know what to do it should take no more than 30 seconds to do. (This was a step by step explanation so it makes it look like more work than it actually is)
@tomtke7351
@tomtke7351 Ай бұрын
1 + (1/sqrt(8)) =1+ sqrt(8)/8 oops 1 +(sqrt(8)/8)
@Astrobrant2
@Astrobrant2 Ай бұрын
No. It equals (8 + √8)/8. You forgot to multiply _both_ of the terms in the numerator by √8. Also, you used the parentheses wrong in your first line. It should be (√8 + 1)/√8
@garyalabama
@garyalabama Ай бұрын
I would have separated the numerator into two terms rationalizing the second term and left the answer as 1+ (sqrt(2)/4).
@Dan13Speed
@Dan13Speed 28 күн бұрын
Thank you. I home school my son, so I love to keep up with my Math Skills. I keep telling him that math in our language is known as " Mathafu" which deriveds from the word "Ma" meaning truth. This is commom in Bantu. It all comes from ancient Kemet, when the Atlantians, Tehuti and the rest of them arrived to teach the Kemites the truths and universal laws of the universe.
@kingalfred3902
@kingalfred3902 28 күн бұрын
And your point is ?????
@Dan13Speed
@Dan13Speed 28 күн бұрын
@@kingalfred3902 "Ma" what you call math is occult. If there is no limit to infinity ♾️ then zero is also an illusion. Tahiti said, "that which has a beginning has an end. And that which has no beginning has no end." We have totally misunderstood "zero" , that's why your calculator cannot divide by zero. Example: 1÷0 Once you understand this then, you are now knee deep in the unexplainable realm, which you call "Black Magic" or "The God Realm" where the laws of science do not apply.
@swdetroiter313
@swdetroiter313 Ай бұрын
(4+ sqrt 2)/4 is not finished. By partial fraction decomposition it becomes 1 + (1/(2* sqrt 2)). Like this. Sqrt 8= 2 * sqrt 2. ((2 * sqrt 2)+1)/(2* sqrt 2) Decompose, the 2 sqrt 2's cancel, Leaving (1 + (1/(2*sqrt 2))
@josephlaura7387
@josephlaura7387 Ай бұрын
Thank you
@MGWTar
@MGWTar Ай бұрын
so, what is the answer ? (mine is 5/4sqrt2 )
@maxinemcafee4893
@maxinemcafee4893 Ай бұрын
Thank you. I was able to get the right answer.
@kingalfred3902
@kingalfred3902 28 күн бұрын
YEA SURE ...!!!!.....
@henrythompson7595
@henrythompson7595 22 күн бұрын
Yeah, me too, I just read down the comments to find the answer.
@rubybackert3612
@rubybackert3612 Ай бұрын
What I'd like to know is how the answer is the problem simplified. All that work and still the answer is not simplified.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
It's not any simpler, is it. What he's actually done is rationalised the denominator, not simplified.
@Ron_DeForest
@Ron_DeForest 9 күн бұрын
I have to ask. What app are you using in this video?
@jimbuchanan2026
@jimbuchanan2026 Ай бұрын
How about 1 + (square root of 2 ) divided by 4 ???
@1234larry1
@1234larry1 29 күн бұрын
Or if you separated the two terms, you could have 1+((1/4)sqrt(2)).
@redblack8414
@redblack8414 Ай бұрын
A really great explanation. I will take your Math Skills Rebuilder and your Pre Calculus courses just for the pleasure of learning.
@fr57ujf
@fr57ujf 16 күн бұрын
The distributive property is taught in third grade. You made a simple problem very complicated.
@mariahelenadecampossilva8268
@mariahelenadecampossilva8268 14 күн бұрын
Verdade
@russelllomando8460
@russelllomando8460 Ай бұрын
thanks for the fun.
@RobertRoth-oj6zz
@RobertRoth-oj6zz 21 күн бұрын
Seeing problems and methods like this makes me wonder how I ever made it through algebra. There must be some other way.
@mylittlepitbull3143
@mylittlepitbull3143 Ай бұрын
Thanks. Good video. I'm still smart at math even though I'm stupid at everything else in life.
@nickfraser4599
@nickfraser4599 Ай бұрын
I'll bet you're not!
@mylittlepitbull3143
@mylittlepitbull3143 Ай бұрын
@@nickfraser4599 muted
@garyjarvis2730
@garyjarvis2730 28 күн бұрын
Good explanation for beginners. The truth is math often gets reduced to a series of tricks to squeeze out the answer. If you don't know the tricks it is difficult to intuitively find the answers. Yes, math people call them rules but essentially they are the tricks to solving equations. Students looking for a more straight forward process are often confused when confronted with these situations. Compounding the issue is there may be multiple ways of finding alternate forms of the answers. Often successful math skills come down to "training" the person to answer a problem in a certain way similar to Pavlov teaching his dogs. Not kind but often true.
@ritaparker478
@ritaparker478 22 күн бұрын
So true. I am having problems with Algebra because it seems so arbitrary and impractical.
@alexandrabloch1687
@alexandrabloch1687 6 күн бұрын
2 sqre root 8 +1
@jimhaslitt-rp4vf
@jimhaslitt-rp4vf Ай бұрын
The square root of 16 is 4. The square root of 8 is @2.89. One-half of 8 is 4.
@benquinneyiii7941
@benquinneyiii7941 Ай бұрын
Gotcha!
@elizabethslagle186
@elizabethslagle186 29 күн бұрын
Basically 1 round up.
@peterbrown5014
@peterbrown5014 Ай бұрын
3 over 2
@conniebartley4226
@conniebartley4226 Ай бұрын
3/2
@davidgreer1981
@davidgreer1981 Ай бұрын
Good god. I saw the problem and thought “how can this equation be simplified down to a rational number?” 18 minutes I will never get back. I recommend you teach civics or something.
@razvanp2557
@razvanp2557 Ай бұрын
How about 1/4 * (4 + sum_(k=0)^∞ ((-1)^k (-1/2)_k (2 )^k )/(k!) ) No square root at all, just an infinite sum. Basic limits! Next challenge is to write it as an integral, no square root allowed.
@mollymam7153
@mollymam7153 Ай бұрын
(4+sqrt2)/4
@ritaparker478
@ritaparker478 22 күн бұрын
All you get is another formula. What is that in practical terms? Would it not be 1.353....?
@leetrask6042
@leetrask6042 Ай бұрын
Oh man I got 1+sqrt2/4 I guess I better keep studying.
@MrSummitville
@MrSummitville Ай бұрын
Your answer is better!!!
@DCWornock
@DCWornock Ай бұрын
Multiply top and bottom by SR8 = (1 +SR8)/8. I failed to simplify it further by realizing that SR8 = 2*SR2
@mayukhmajhi1269
@mayukhmajhi1269 Ай бұрын
1.28868(approx.)
@carlosalbertoogliari1830
@carlosalbertoogliari1830 18 күн бұрын
Quanta enrolação para resolver um problema elementar. Fala sem parar
@CAustin582
@CAustin582 28 күн бұрын
Wouldn't 1 + √(2)/4 be simpler? Seems weird to include the 4/4
@samswift4921
@samswift4921 Ай бұрын
1.5 rounded to tenths
@gasgfaufbjaj3373
@gasgfaufbjaj3373 15 күн бұрын
my first answer would be 1+1/sqrt(8)
@user-dq3uh6ee5w
@user-dq3uh6ee5w 10 күн бұрын
1+V2/4.
@SM-ev3pv
@SM-ev3pv 11 күн бұрын
Solve or simplify? The genius at work again.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 8 күн бұрын
Neither. All he's doing is rationalising the denominator. He's not solving or simplifying anything.
@SM-ev3pv
@SM-ev3pv 8 күн бұрын
@@gavindeane3670 You are another genius.
@Chingrtd258
@Chingrtd258 10 күн бұрын
You can't solve this problem but you can simplify by rationalizing the denominator.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 8 күн бұрын
He's not solving it and he's not simplifying it either. He's just re-expressing the same thing in a different way. Rationalising the denominator is not simplifying. Rationalising the denominator is rationalising the denominator.
@robertgarn4621
@robertgarn4621 Ай бұрын
One simple question, Given the number 4: The square roots of 4 are +2 and -2. That needs to accounted for!
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
It's doesn't need to be accounted for. The √ symbol means "principal square root of", which is the positive square root. Yes, 4 has two square roots, but √4 refers only to one of them. √4 is 2. If you want to refer to both square roots you put ± in front of the √ symbol.
@farjanajahan3222
@farjanajahan3222 Ай бұрын
1/rut 2
@gibbogle
@gibbogle Ай бұрын
Simplify, not solve (in the title) please.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
"Rationalise the denominator" not "simplify" (and yes, definitely not "solve").
@yarramneediravindraswamy6804
@yarramneediravindraswamy6804 28 күн бұрын
nearly 1.166
@johnplong3644
@johnplong3644 29 күн бұрын
Can’t have the Square Root in the denominator and the answer is definitely not 1 May I suggest multiplying the top and the bottom by the SR of 8
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 29 күн бұрын
Square roots in denominators are fine. They can even be useful - as you (and the video) demonstrate when you multiply this by √8/√8
@fransdebruijn99
@fransdebruijn99 Ай бұрын
break it down even further 1 + 1/4 x sqrt 2
@docclabo6350
@docclabo6350 Ай бұрын
(√8+1)/√8 equals √8/√8+1/√8 equals 1+1/√8. Why is that not considered fully simplified?
@swdetroiter313
@swdetroiter313 Ай бұрын
1+(1/(2 sqrt 2))
@erynn9770
@erynn9770 Ай бұрын
Irrationals in the denominator are frowned upon, because they are way harder to calculate. Also sqrt(8) can be simplified to 2sqrt(2). So 1+1/sqrt(8)= 1+1/(2sqrt(2)) = 1+sqrt(2)/4
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
This guy is saying "simplify" when what he really means is "rationalise the denominator". What he's doing here isn't simplification at all. His end point (and your end point) aren't any simpler than the starting point.
@franktippin9150
@franktippin9150 Ай бұрын
1+sqr root of 8
@peterbrown5014
@peterbrown5014 Ай бұрын
How is sq root of 8, 64? 8 squared is 64.
@johnaustin1825
@johnaustin1825 Ай бұрын
1.0607
@regellery6695
@regellery6695 Ай бұрын
What about 1 + (1/sqrt(8))?
@swdetroiter313
@swdetroiter313 Ай бұрын
Simplify sqrt 8 to 2 * sqrt 2 1+ 1/(2 sqrt 2)
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
That's also fine. You could express the √8 bit as 2√2 if you wanted to as well.
@glasssmirror2314
@glasssmirror2314 5 күн бұрын
Only when I have luxury of time then I would waste to watch his lectures and not to the fullest but skipping. However, if he cuts down unnecessarily talking and examples he would be the best of all.
@girmaybass68
@girmaybass68 Ай бұрын
I tried, failed - will watch video now
@Ron_DeForest
@Ron_DeForest 9 күн бұрын
Find the comment section interesting. Very few understand the point of this channel. The point is to explain math in a way so even someone with zero mathing abilities will understand. So many want to show off their minimal knowledge and say nonsense like, “I did this in minus 3 moves. That’s how good I am”. All sorts of pathetic. Just keep on keeping on.
@ajabkhan9320
@ajabkhan9320 27 күн бұрын
Ajab khan khattak. Deviation...........deviation to arrive at evaluation.
@razvanp2557
@razvanp2557 Ай бұрын
The video and the comments show the precarious state of mathematics in 2024. The problem does not look for a solution but shall require a simplification, or a rational denominator. The vast majority of comments don't understand the problem either.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
All he needed to do was change the question from "Can you solve?" to "Can you rationalise the denominator?"
@awcampbell2002
@awcampbell2002 Ай бұрын
Why wouldn't you make it 1 + (√2/4)? Doesn't the distributive property work in subtraction too? (4+√2)/4 would become 4/4 + √2/4, which would reduce to 1 + √2/4. You could look at it as distributing 1/4 times the components of the numerator.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
You absolutely can express it as 1+√2/4. Nothing wrong with that at all. It doesn't make sense to describe either 1+√2/4 or (4+√2)/4 as a "solution" to the original expression though. They're all just equivalent ways of saying the same thing.
@terry_willis
@terry_willis Ай бұрын
I got that also. I broke the problem into 2 fractions which resulted in the 1 (like in your answer) with a denominator of 1 also. John's answer just combined both over a single denominator (4).
@shakirhamoodi5009
@shakirhamoodi5009 16 күн бұрын
4 steps, Ans: 1 + (sqr(2))/4
@bigdog3628
@bigdog3628 11 күн бұрын
wrong
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 8 күн бұрын
​@@bigdog3628It's not wrong. 1+(√2)/4 is equivalent to the original expression.
@yacobyohannes6113
@yacobyohannes6113 Ай бұрын
-1
@JasmineDaisy111
@JasmineDaisy111 11 күн бұрын
1
@billl3936
@billl3936 Ай бұрын
Chat GPT4 got 1+√2/4
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
That's the same as what he gets in the video, just expressed in a slightly different way.
@kevinthompson7682
@kevinthompson7682 Ай бұрын
2
@1234larry1
@1234larry1 29 күн бұрын
Mathematicians are always “rationalizing” their beliefs. Lol😊
@transientnovice
@transientnovice Ай бұрын
Huinya
@alexandrabloch1687
@alexandrabloch1687 6 күн бұрын
Sorry 2 sqre root or 2 =8 over 2 square root of 2
@kevinwesterlund1495
@kevinwesterlund1495 Ай бұрын
Solve??? No one can solve this because it is simply an expression, not something that can be solved such as an equation. Really shocking and disappointing that a math teacher doesn’t know the difference between solving and simplifying. Typical sloppy, irresponsible wording by someone who cares only about “likes” and “views” and has little or no interest in imparting knowledge.
@Astrobrant2
@Astrobrant2 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I noticed that, too. He's done it in other videos, as well. While the proper instruction would be "simplify", I can't really get bent out of shape over using the word, "solve". But then, you and I just see things differently, and that's okay.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
​@@Astrobrant2The proper instruction here wouldn't be "simplify". The proper instruction would be "rationalise the denominator".
@Astrobrant2
@Astrobrant2 Ай бұрын
@@gavindeane3670 Why tell them that? I mean, if the teacher wants to give them a clue, then okay, I won't object to that. But if rationalizing the denominator is something the students are expected to know and are being tested on, then "simplify" seems appropriate.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
​​@@Astrobrant2Because rationalising the denominator is not simplifying. The "answer" in this video is not in any meaningful way a simplification of the original expression. They are just different ways of expressing the same thing. If students are expected to be able to rationalise a denominator then that's fine. Test them on that. But ask them to do what you want them to do. If the requirement is to rationalise the denominator then the instruction should be "rationalise the denominator". It is absurd and inexcusable to obfuscate that requirement behind a different instruction that literally does not describe what you are asking them to do.
@craigmclean8864
@craigmclean8864 Ай бұрын
That isn't algebra. There is no unknown.
@zee7535
@zee7535 14 күн бұрын
It seems very long😂
@user-ux8yj7lf8n
@user-ux8yj7lf8n Ай бұрын
"Multiplied by"not "times" FFS
@bullionsations
@bullionsations 24 күн бұрын
sorry but there got to be a better way to explain this problem! I get it that the instructor knows how to but his job is to make math EZ so we don't have to use calculators and computers for simple problems!
@bigdog3628
@bigdog3628 11 күн бұрын
here is an exact quote of my comment above, let me know if you find it easier to understand: "super simple: First step: reduce √8 + 1 to 2√2 + 1. Numerator is now 2√2 + 1 Second step: denominator is irrational due to the root sign so we rationalize it by multiplying the numerator and the denominator by √8 Numerator: (2√2 + 1) * √8 which is 2√16 + 2√2 which reduces further to 8 + 2√2. Now the denominator: √8 * √8 is just 8. Third Step reduce fraction further. 8, 2 , 8 can all be divided by 2 so factor out a 2 and we get the final answer of (4 +√2) / 4. Because BOTH the 4 AND the √2 are divided by 4 we can NOT reduce this further. Like I said super simple if you know what to do it should take no more than 30 seconds to do. (This was a step by step explanation so it makes it look like more work than it actually is)" Hope you found that easier.
@michaelburns8519
@michaelburns8519 Ай бұрын
2 roots cancel each other out and your left with 1
@Astrobrant2
@Astrobrant2 Ай бұрын
No, they do not cancel. He explained that. I'll give you the short version. You can only cancel like that if the two numbers in the numerator are being _multiplied or divided,_ not added or subtracted.
@robertloveless4938
@robertloveless4938 Ай бұрын
Nope
@MrMousley
@MrMousley Ай бұрын
You can only 'cancel' like that if you are multiplying or dividing .. not adding or subtracting. For example (A x B) / A = A but (A + B) / A IS NOT = A
@michaelburns8519
@michaelburns8519 Ай бұрын
@@MrMousley It was late and i forgot about how to use surds and the root function - got ahead of myself. Should of known better.🤣
@michaelburns8519
@michaelburns8519 Ай бұрын
@@robertloveless4938 Forgot how to use surds it was late and got ahead of myself i feel silly lol.
@neenus
@neenus Ай бұрын
So what is the answer!!! 😂
@sandikay3323
@sandikay3323 Ай бұрын
The written question should be "Can you simplify?" There are two simplified answers; the one shown and 1+√(2)÷4.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
It's not even "Can you simplify?". It's "Can you rationalise the denominator?". That's all he's done.
@sandikay3323
@sandikay3323 Ай бұрын
@@gavindeane3670 You rationalize to simplify the expression.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 Ай бұрын
@@sandikay3323 Rationalising the denominator is not simplifying. Rationalising the denominator is rationalising the denominator. He starts with an expression of the form (a+b)/c and he ends up with a different expression of the form (a+b)/c. It's nonsense for him to suggest the end point is any simpler than the starting point. There's no sensible justification for the notion that (√8+1)/√8 is a question and (4+√2)/4 is the answer, let alone considering one to be a simplification of the other.
@timothylacouture1113
@timothylacouture1113 Ай бұрын
Why wouldn’t the 8s cancel ? Not the 8 root , but the simplified ones
@mercy3648
@mercy3648 Ай бұрын
B/c the numerator is separated by a plus sign; you can’t cancel when the numerator is separated by a plus sign
@davidchokler2840
@davidchokler2840 14 күн бұрын
By this video, you clearly explained why nobody should take your lessons. I am fortunate to have had much better teachers than you are.
@Ralph-wf2ox
@Ralph-wf2ox 8 күн бұрын
Far too much talking
@Darisiabgal7573
@Darisiabgal7573 Ай бұрын
Watching you solve this problem was like watching water boil at Leadville Colorado on a very cold day. (SQRT(8) + 1)/SQRT(8) = (2*SQRT(2) + 1)/(2*SQRT(2) = 3.8285/2.8285= 1 + 1/2.8285 = 1/1.4142 = .7070 this divided by 2 is .354 so 1.354 SQRT(2) * (2 * SQRT(2) + 1) --------------- SQRT(2) * 2 SQRT(2) ( 4 + SQRT(2) )/ 4 = 1 + SQRT(2)/4 = 1.354 No calculators Another way 1 + SQRT(2)/4 = 2.5 * SQRT (2)/10 + 1 = (2.8285 + .7070)/10 + 1 = 3.5354/10 + 1 = 1.35354 SQRT(8) + 1/ SQRT(8) = 1+ 1/SQRT(8) * SQRT(2)/SQRT(2) = 1 + SQRT(2)/SQRT(16) = 1 + SQRT(2)/4 1 + 1/SQRT(8) = 1 + 1/2 *1/SQRT(2) = 1 + .7070/2 = 1.354
@amritlutchman5525
@amritlutchman5525 26 күн бұрын
Not done yet . End answer is 1 + (1/4)sqrt(2)
@pedromello0404
@pedromello0404 6 күн бұрын
WTH do you complicate so much the explanation?
@doctorb9264
@doctorb9264 15 күн бұрын
This is a joke right ?
@JasmineDaisy111
@JasmineDaisy111 11 күн бұрын
😂
@carlosportales4518
@carlosportales4518 16 күн бұрын
You are excelent but you talk too much😊
@jimwhalen5675
@jimwhalen5675 Ай бұрын
Still not clear ? Neds better explanation even from clowns in this conment section!
@michaeltan48
@michaeltan48 Ай бұрын
Annoyingly unnecessarily long winded!!
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