The St Etienne Mle 1907: France's Domestic Heavy Machine Gun

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@havelockbingley6794
@havelockbingley6794 7 жыл бұрын
In the automotive world I've heard it said "The French don't copy anyone. and no one copies the French." Apparently this also extends to firearms.
@codyarmstrong5526
@codyarmstrong5526 6 жыл бұрын
canicheenrage hon hon hon
@Mikey-pq4zf
@Mikey-pq4zf 6 жыл бұрын
Ever hear of smokeless powder????
@g.55centaurosimp18
@g.55centaurosimp18 6 жыл бұрын
Mike 32haha I think it was known before the adopted it
@GR46404
@GR46404 6 жыл бұрын
That is a brilliant way to put it, havelock bingley. All the way up until World War 2, the French put more emphasis on a weapon being French than on being effective, with frequently dire results.
@Noel13002
@Noel13002 6 жыл бұрын
True...😊😉
@fien111
@fien111 7 жыл бұрын
The front is a train, the piston cycles backwards, and there's a gear system in it. Ladies and gentlemen, this might just be the single most French gun ever made. The only thing you could add would be a adaptor for firing rifle grenades
@russetwolf13
@russetwolf13 7 жыл бұрын
Fien Don't forget the hydraulic rate reducer that takes it down to 8 rpms.
@Statusinator
@Statusinator 7 жыл бұрын
They'd probably develop a metal strip system to fire rifle grenades fully automatically
@russetwolf13
@russetwolf13 7 жыл бұрын
Statusinator they'd get it to work too. Completely pointless and overcomplicated, but it would function through sheer nationalistic pride.
@albrechtshnoodle1128
@albrechtshnoodle1128 6 жыл бұрын
Where is the bayonet?
@conorclimo8534
@conorclimo8534 6 жыл бұрын
* Rifle Mortars
@resonance314
@resonance314 7 жыл бұрын
Damn the front of this gun looks like an art deco locomotive.
@mrkeogh
@mrkeogh 7 жыл бұрын
Res Why does it also remind me of Boba Fett???
@Democracy-is-non-negotiable
@Democracy-is-non-negotiable 7 жыл бұрын
I see a train.
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 7 жыл бұрын
Bécauz eetz French gun, oui.
@KorbinX
@KorbinX 7 жыл бұрын
My first thought as well...looks really cool. Cheers ^-^
@spankeyfish
@spankeyfish 7 жыл бұрын
The League of Extraordinary Machine Guns
@StAlchemyst
@StAlchemyst 7 жыл бұрын
That "thermal expansion sight compensating rod" is insane. Only the French would come up with something so overly complicated yet impressive in their firearms. Well, maybe the Swiss!
@dchil15
@dchil15 7 жыл бұрын
The swiss or the germans wouldn't have had to design that rod as they would have thought of it in the first place and concocted some weird sight mount that you can swap onto different barrels.
@seanhenry8030
@seanhenry8030 7 жыл бұрын
dchil15 exactly. Except the Swiss version would've added roughly 105,000 hours of complex machining operations, exotic alloys, and careful heat treating. All resulting in the best weapon no one can afford.
@StAlchemyst
@StAlchemyst 7 жыл бұрын
lols
@balduir5259
@balduir5259 7 жыл бұрын
Alain Portant *simplified*
@maxsimeck902
@maxsimeck902 6 жыл бұрын
and useless
@Selador_
@Selador_ 7 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, I had to pause for a moment when the door was opened at 7:30, what an absolutely beautiful window of access to the moving parts. I repair mechanical cameras, and this reminds of how beautiful it was to lift the body in one piece off a leica m3 and see the whole skeleton laid bare. I'll never grow tired of well-crafted and sometimes eccentric mechanical systems.
@Sn4k3f1st
@Sn4k3f1st 7 жыл бұрын
K. Martin I do the same and this reminded me of removing the advance side panel on a rolleiflex. I'll never foget the feeling. For those who have no idea what we're babbling about, search 'advance side rolleiflex' on google, its a beautiful view for anyone here mechanically inclined.
@PassiveDestroyer
@PassiveDestroyer 7 жыл бұрын
That search was worth it.
@bluesmandingo
@bluesmandingo 7 жыл бұрын
I like guns like i like, cameras, or watches. The precision and design is soo neat, and i'm a Nordic-country-liberal want-to-be: and i'm steal all about it. MORE!! :D
@Rutherford_Inchworm_III
@Rutherford_Inchworm_III 4 жыл бұрын
It's like they were building a cuckoo clock
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 8 ай бұрын
Easy to just use a paintbrush with oil, then, to keep the weapon running?
@MrKa_Rate
@MrKa_Rate 7 жыл бұрын
From the front it reminds me of imperial warships from Warhammer 40k
@EDSKaR
@EDSKaR 7 жыл бұрын
i.imgur.com/lkNQOyV.jpg
@philips.5563
@philips.5563 7 жыл бұрын
Ramming speed with an emplaced MG? The commissar is impressed with your zeal
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 7 жыл бұрын
+Song in Silence We shall run them over with the entire bunker!
@unclestone8406
@unclestone8406 7 жыл бұрын
AVEC LE XENOS *_J'ATTAAAAAAQUE!!_*
@vmaldia
@vmaldia 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah or a steam train
@MrSebfrench76
@MrSebfrench76 7 жыл бұрын
as a french , i find this machine gun way too simple.There's surely a way to complexify it more.
@blakecushman5870
@blakecushman5870 7 жыл бұрын
What's the point of you are just gonna give it away if you surrender
@COCOniTOOOOOO
@COCOniTOOOOOO 7 жыл бұрын
If it's complicated enough feeble minded foreigners might leave it on the ground, you've got to think ahead.
@bulacomunistu8727
@bulacomunistu8727 6 жыл бұрын
I thought that as a French guy you would notice Ian's T-shirt and the nod he gives in remembrance of all the French soldiers that died in those battles.
@r3cy
@r3cy 6 жыл бұрын
bonus points for making the word 'complex' more complex :)
@kipter
@kipter 6 жыл бұрын
It should be foldable like the mat 49.
@Uranprojekt
@Uranprojekt 7 жыл бұрын
Naturally, being French, the tripod can be converted into a bicycle thanks to the handy bicycle-style seat they provided on the rear tripod leg.
@LeminskiTankscor
@LeminskiTankscor 7 жыл бұрын
*ring ring*
@Hirosjimma
@Hirosjimma 7 жыл бұрын
Hey that'd be a Dutch design feature, thankyouverymuch.
@psychedelia6891
@psychedelia6891 7 жыл бұрын
Uranprojekt built in retreat bike
@CaptainGrief66
@CaptainGrief66 7 жыл бұрын
Well, the Swiss dragged Tb-41 25mm automatic cannons around with bicycles, so why not.
@CaptainGrief66
@CaptainGrief66 7 жыл бұрын
Laird Cummings Who wouldn't?
@PBG762
@PBG762 6 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that Romanian military had them in WWI. I grandfather told me stories about it. He was a watchmaker. He really liked it from mechanical POV, but was a nightmare to maintain it. Was working great in fortified positions but not in the tranches.
@BillKillerz
@BillKillerz Жыл бұрын
Oh that's just so nice ! That's cliché swiss :P
@TheBardo24
@TheBardo24 7 жыл бұрын
From an engineering standpoint....this is by far the BEST video you have ever put out! Absolutely unique and fascinating!
@Papperlapappmaul
@Papperlapappmaul 7 жыл бұрын
Have you seen his video on the Russian AN-94?
@TheBardo24
@TheBardo24 7 жыл бұрын
TOTALLY forgot about the AN-94 video! It also incredibly impressive engineering, I have to go re-watch now!
@antivalidisme5669
@antivalidisme5669 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thought! And when I heard about the gas trapped Pluto prototype I was like "What?A Machine gun size Abakan design 90 years before the Nikonov assault rifle?" Crazy shit incoming! And despite the fact they had the good idea to leave that concept behind, the front sight system alone is such a thermodynamics equation by itself - Chemical engineer here- awesome.
@lenheinz6646
@lenheinz6646 7 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, in all senses of the word. I recall reading a quote from an International Brigade member in Spain, who said that the gun was a marvelous collection of clockwork wheels and gears that no one really understood and that (at least in their hands) never really worked well.
@moosemaimer
@moosemaimer 7 жыл бұрын
Dirt? In war? Good Lord! Have the men tidy that up, I want this battlefield tip-top!
@EDSKaR
@EDSKaR 7 жыл бұрын
I'll get my trench broom.
@jeredhersh789
@jeredhersh789 6 жыл бұрын
Notice- the war has been postponed so soldiers can police call the battlefield.
@soopahjj11
@soopahjj11 3 жыл бұрын
I want to be able to eat off this dirt!
@sorrenblitz805
@sorrenblitz805 2 жыл бұрын
I will not fire a shot until I can see my reflection off of every blade of grass.
@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 7 жыл бұрын
I call it the Iron Giant. No, not because of the weight or size, but because of that enormous chin!
@datguy8805
@datguy8805 7 жыл бұрын
c h i n k i l l a (The kind of joke leno battlebot from the comedy central battlebots)
@ОлегКозлов-ю9т
@ОлегКозлов-ю9т 7 жыл бұрын
Dakka dakka dakka
@jjkroll32
@jjkroll32 7 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't it be the Bruce Campbell then?
@DonHaussettler
@DonHaussettler 7 жыл бұрын
At first I had no idea what you were talking about...then I moved the messenger bubble from left of screen. Oh boy.
@vaclav_fejt
@vaclav_fejt 7 жыл бұрын
S U P E R M A N . . .
@rickey5353
@rickey5353 6 жыл бұрын
Now I can appreciate the correct term “machine”gun. The entire works looks as much like a metal lathe, as well as a weapon.
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 8 ай бұрын
Sewing Machine…? Wants regular cleaning and oiling….
@minisciencedude
@minisciencedude 7 жыл бұрын
Ian is really happy that he is going over a early French heavy machine gun.His francophile senses are tingling.
@NSUSashiel
@NSUSashiel 6 жыл бұрын
Colt McCurry Well he goes shooting with a French expat that likes to crossdress as 2B from Nier: Automata at the range sometimes so at least he doesnt hate us.
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 6 жыл бұрын
It's probably a Good guess that he put a bid on this gun.
@groovy_bear
@groovy_bear Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian for this thorough description! I was born and raised in Saint-Etienne so naturally I can't be prouder when I see the fine workmanship and that went into the design and production of this machine gun. Fun fact: during the French revolution, Saint-Etienne was actually renamed Armeville ("Armsville" in English) for a while, which says a lot about the historical importance of the military industry in that city. But despite that, and knowing that my hometown was the birthplace of the FAMAS and other MAS rifles that preceded it, I had no idea that SO MANY types of rifles and machine guns were designed and made there... Also Saint-Etienne steelworks made a lot large caliber guns, howitzers, navy guns and so on, and they still do. I actually worked in one of them for a summer job when I was young.
@GazalAlShaqab
@GazalAlShaqab Жыл бұрын
Salutations aux Stéphanois ! Oui c'est une magnifique machinerie, même si dans les commentaires les Ricains se moquent ("Les Français ne copient personne mais personne le copie les Français"…). Mais c'était une époque où les Français partaient à la conquête du monde grâce à ces machines fabriquées à Saint-Étienne (et quelques autres endroits), ça fait mal au cœur rien que d'y penser en ce temps de "liquidation" post-nationale :(
@shreks_loins3963
@shreks_loins3963 6 жыл бұрын
The amount of ingenuity and engineering that went into this machine gun is incredible. It is truly a piece of art.
@YourAverageStrummer
@YourAverageStrummer 7 жыл бұрын
That thing is so French it makes my moustache grow. Totally awesome.
@twistedsis100
@twistedsis100 7 жыл бұрын
Tuomas Raatikainen made my baguette grow
@kellyhill1265
@kellyhill1265 2 жыл бұрын
It’s just mind boggling to think that someone invisioned all these rotating sliding moving parts in their mind then implement them into practice and it all come together to fire at that high rate. PURE GENIUS
@papyshak
@papyshak 7 жыл бұрын
Theres not even a single video of St Etienne shooting on the internet Do someting about it
@XenoTechnian
@XenoTechnian 6 жыл бұрын
I second this notion
@chedsalvia6270
@chedsalvia6270 5 жыл бұрын
it is so bad that no one wants to buy it... save your money for some sturmgewehr!
@MrXxHunter
@MrXxHunter 5 жыл бұрын
@Dan The Man Sturmgewehr
@toastpuppy3491
@toastpuppy3491 5 жыл бұрын
Tim why buy a sturmgewehr when you can buy the obviously superior AK-47
@Zane_Endicott_
@Zane_Endicott_ 5 жыл бұрын
Maxwell Kattner why buy an ak when you could buy this thing
@alanpassat6759
@alanpassat6759 7 жыл бұрын
The barrel dress was by Jean-Paul Gaultier, from his spring collection.
@sockmon1
@sockmon1 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@messmeister92
@messmeister92 4 жыл бұрын
The French: “Carrying extra water into battle is impractical.” Also the French: *Dress their army in pale blue and red combat uniforms.*
@Martel_Clips
@Martel_Clips 4 жыл бұрын
water cleanliness was such a problem in WWI that some isolated fort/ front in the mountains had cask of wine delivered instead of water because it wouldn't turn bad also water supplies in the Sahara desert are kinda precious while going to WWI french armies had a kinda Napoleonic doctrines in which surprise and concealment is far less important than mobility and organisation, hence why the red pants didn't matter that much, they dropped the red pants in the 1915 uniform when the war transformed into a position war. and the jacket turned grey/brown with the mud and water. so their uniform made sense in a way
@ferdblu1946
@ferdblu1946 4 жыл бұрын
Rémi Marchese didnt it turn into a blueish „Horizontblau“?
@Martel_Clips
@Martel_Clips 4 жыл бұрын
@@ferdblu1946 well it was bluish grey when new, which it didn't stay for long
@renaudtheis1197
@renaudtheis1197 4 жыл бұрын
Cethoss "bleu horizon", I believe the reasoning behind it was that if a troop was marching on a hill or a crest it would be hard to silhouette them against grey blue horizon. It is possible that one day on one occasion it might have worked but it was a stupid idea like French bureaucracy has unsurpassed capacity for pumping out!!
@motoman22atgmail
@motoman22atgmail 4 жыл бұрын
Youpi Youpla Here we call it 'bling'
@GoldplatedDeagle
@GoldplatedDeagle 7 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to reproduce that flashhider for the ar15.
@Isaac-ho8gh
@Isaac-ho8gh 7 жыл бұрын
lmao
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 6 жыл бұрын
And for pump action 12 gauge and the 3 Line rifle. 😊
@mr.christopherp.4851
@mr.christopherp.4851 4 жыл бұрын
I'd buy 1 just solely based on looks that's f***ing awesome
@KermitTheGamer21
@KermitTheGamer21 4 жыл бұрын
With an FH like that you could pin it to a 7.5" barreled 'pistol' and it would legally become a rifle! 😂
@undrgrnd734
@undrgrnd734 4 жыл бұрын
illegal in the state of California for assault weapon purposes
@davidgirkin7733
@davidgirkin7733 3 жыл бұрын
I’m super late to the party but holy shit this gun is fascinating from a mechanical standpoint. Having the machine tools to make these in 1907 is amazing. The whole thing is gloriously complex.
@Mildcat743
@Mildcat743 7 жыл бұрын
When you first showed the gas piston system close up, I thought "huh, that sight looks a bit neat. Is that a spring?". When you showed that sight mechanism, all i thought was "*These Frenchies and their damn baguette space magic*"
@MrCh0o
@MrCh0o 5 жыл бұрын
I thought the iron bar was to skewer the meat pieces so they can roast over a barrel nicely
@viperfan7
@viperfan7 7 жыл бұрын
Needs a transparent side door, would be really cool to see that firing like that
@corsairsofnarshaddaa
@corsairsofnarshaddaa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah with some cool RGB
@andresmartinezramos7513
@andresmartinezramos7513 3 жыл бұрын
@@corsairsofnarshaddaa It would look unironically rad
@Attaxalotl
@Attaxalotl 6 ай бұрын
@@corsairsofnarshaddaa Gaming Machine Gun. That sounds suitably French
@plasticbeetle6209
@plasticbeetle6209 5 ай бұрын
Maybe you could have it fireable if you used transparent aluminium. Probably would need to be replaced befre long, but god, the view
@Stylemaster911
@Stylemaster911 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is an exceptionally complicated weapon, my god.
@insta_725
@insta_725 7 жыл бұрын
Steve LaForce j’avoue
@CzornyLisek
@CzornyLisek 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely nothing complicated in it.
@Khalrua
@Khalrua 7 жыл бұрын
ikr, don't ya just love it
@hesperhurt
@hesperhurt 7 жыл бұрын
Czorńy Lisek in comparison to its contemporaries... it is. It was even thought to be too complicated at the time. However, the the accuracy and efficiency of the assemply proved that despite this... it was an effective machine.
@asneakychicken322
@asneakychicken322 6 жыл бұрын
Compared to things like the AN-94 or the Model 30, it’s nothing too crazy
@TJ24050
@TJ24050 2 жыл бұрын
From the forward action gas piston, to the side access door for the Rupe-Goldberg internals, I love it! The metal rod thermal self-adjusting front sight and the vented and funneled flash suppressor are my favorite features! This would be my center piece of my gun collection.
@littlegrabbiZZ9PZA
@littlegrabbiZZ9PZA 7 жыл бұрын
This gun is the perfect trifecta of weird: * An early version of it's general type (heavy MG), * National pride -> We'll build our own damn gun, and * Annoying patents that needed to be designed around.
@Papperlapappmaul
@Papperlapappmaul 7 жыл бұрын
Yup, three ingredients to make wonderfully weird and interesting guns. BTW, there's a typo in your comment. The fifth word in the second line should be "its".
@alexguymon7117
@alexguymon7117 7 жыл бұрын
Replace "MG" with "Service Rifle" and you got the Springfield M1903
@canaan5337
@canaan5337 7 жыл бұрын
littlegrabbiZZ9PZA yeah I don't understand that if you are the government that issues patents and you're making guns for your military and you want your own government Gun Works or whatever to make the guns for your military why wouldn't the government just use whatever they wanted whether it was patented or not like how you can own a piece of property but if the government decides they want to put a road through there they're going to say eminent domain and put the road through there whether you like it or not
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 7 жыл бұрын
+Canaan Thats really bad for business in the long term Id imagine. Also Eminent domain mist be discally compensated.
@jackandersen1262
@jackandersen1262 5 жыл бұрын
Alex Winebrenner the US payed Mauser for the rights to produce their “Mauser”.
@Curien247
@Curien247 7 жыл бұрын
Like a deadly pocketwatch, complicated and timely.
@CGoody564
@CGoody564 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. This seems like a masterpiece of craftmanship. Forget about various firing rates, adjustable height, and avoiding patents; "Want anti-aircraft mode? We have that covered; just turn the gun around and reattach it". Although this may be considered "overdesigned" by many, the simple fact is that it is marvelously well manufactured metalwork despite not being practical in any sense regarding firearms. I consider it a work of art more than anything, but oh, what a work of art it is indeed.
@ChaosPootato
@ChaosPootato 7 жыл бұрын
Love the leather bicycle seat xD
@Isaac-ho8gh
@Isaac-ho8gh 7 жыл бұрын
True hahahahahaha
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 7 жыл бұрын
I'm suprised they didn't put wheels and a chain on it!
@PlymouthT20
@PlymouthT20 7 жыл бұрын
Add a basket and bell as well.
@DivingHawker
@DivingHawker 7 жыл бұрын
*DING DING MOTHERFUCKERS!!*
@Isaac-ho8gh
@Isaac-ho8gh 7 жыл бұрын
DivingHawker hahhahahaahha
@4991Ares
@4991Ares 7 жыл бұрын
There's only one thing worse than Swiss matchmaker levels of engineering: Swiss matchmaker levels of engineering, as done by the French.
@DickHolman
@DickHolman 7 жыл бұрын
*watchmaker.
@Anangryviking
@Anangryviking 5 жыл бұрын
*matchwaker
@gastonbell108
@gastonbell108 5 жыл бұрын
............I believe the word you were going for was "watchmaker". The Swiss are not known for their online dating services.
@trabant3060
@trabant3060 3 жыл бұрын
*mechwarrior
@Za7a7aZ
@Za7a7aZ 4 жыл бұрын
I should ...am instructed...to clean-up the dishes but got caught binge watching this channel.. I am so impressed by Ians knowledge that he will absolutely sure can get a job as a professor at westpoint.
@bohoffman774
@bohoffman774 7 жыл бұрын
I just want to say, that apart from beeing very, very interesting videos of ''forgotten guns'', I very much appreciate your excellent english! Me, beeing from Sweden, have no problems understanding all of the interesting historical knowledge you give us. A big, big ''thank you'' for that!... /BoH
@larrygall5831
@larrygall5831 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic example from the earliest days of MGs. Very good, very good indeed. You never cease to amaze with the selection of rare weapons. Very happy to have found this channel.
@Bobby_Snoof
@Bobby_Snoof 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Saint Etienne, and I like the simplicity of this machine gun !! :D
@jackdipicche_
@jackdipicche_ 7 жыл бұрын
This is the machine gun we saw a lot time ago isn't it? The other one was inevitably broken Never thought I'd see an entire one
@DashinGhost
@DashinGhost 7 жыл бұрын
Maxduty97 It is, I was really excited when I saw this pop up in my sub feed!
@SeraphinaPZ
@SeraphinaPZ 7 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who wants to see a picture of this mounted on a vehicle or an early tank?
@davidmbeckmann
@davidmbeckmann 7 жыл бұрын
Would have to be modified to belt feed.
@GunSperg
@GunSperg 6 жыл бұрын
Hannibal EnemyofRome, in the video Ian states that they made 300 rd cloth belts
@104thDIVTimberwolf
@104thDIVTimberwolf 4 жыл бұрын
They used the Hochkiss Portative Mk1 in their tanks.
@brianj.841
@brianj.841 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. That would solve many of the 'cleanliness' issues; especially mounted in aircraft. :) Yes, it would definitely need a 300-round belt.
@gdp5251
@gdp5251 3 жыл бұрын
A technical using that and an old Chevy pickup!
@SleeperNO
@SleeperNO 3 жыл бұрын
As gold as the video in itself is as usual from Ian (and I'm not even a firearms enthusiast!), the comment section thoroughly made my day. Well done, internet. Well done.
@awmperry
@awmperry 7 жыл бұрын
That’s some lovely arcane engineering inside.
@Spitsz01
@Spitsz01 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, steampunk indeed! This thing is awesome. Seen one in France on static display but the innards are incredibly beautiful. A mechanics dream.... Great vid Ian, thx mate!
@mrkeogh
@mrkeogh 7 жыл бұрын
The French absolutely rock at Steampunk!!!
@Greg41982
@Greg41982 7 жыл бұрын
That front sight compensation rod is amazing. How many partial differential equations were used to figure that thing out!
@GTO6006
@GTO6006 3 жыл бұрын
My guess is : trial and error is quicker.
@CthulhuInc
@CthulhuInc 7 жыл бұрын
best 30 minutes i've spent in a long time - thank you!
@MegaRAMBAUD
@MegaRAMBAUD Жыл бұрын
Merci mon ami pour ce documentaire intéressant🟦⬜🟥
@eisenkrieg553
@eisenkrieg553 7 жыл бұрын
I think this has been the most interesting HMG I've ever seen.
@dacoobob
@dacoobob 5 жыл бұрын
what a crazy mechanism! gilded-age automatic firearms were super cool in a rube-goldberg-machine kind of way
@Chairman_Savage
@Chairman_Savage 7 жыл бұрын
Another episode of Ian being obsessed with French Weaponry. 'Tis a good day.
@magpiejames1440
@magpiejames1440 7 жыл бұрын
That is a truly beautiful machine! Thank you for showing it to us :)
@CaptainGrief66
@CaptainGrief66 7 жыл бұрын
French guns from the first world war are my absolute favourite ones, so cool and weird, love 'em!
@billd.iniowa2263
@billd.iniowa2263 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful show and tell! Never heard of this HMG before. Reminds me of an overgrown sewing machine with all those working parts. I ran across this channel recently and am enjoying it very much. It caters to two of my interests: Warfare and antiques. Your expertise is quite appreciated. Thankyou.
@StrohmaniasFlyingCircus
@StrohmaniasFlyingCircus 7 жыл бұрын
No hip shooting with this one. :- |
@dust2dustjb
@dust2dustjb 7 жыл бұрын
Strohmann Arnold could do it lmao jk jk....I don't know how the two man crew dealt with this gun on a daily basis I'd rather a bolt action lol
@Papperlapappmaul
@Papperlapappmaul 7 жыл бұрын
Justavious, please don't use "rather" as a verb. "I'd prefer a bolt action" or "I'd rather pick up a bolt action" both sound so much better.
@DashRendar308
@DashRendar308 7 жыл бұрын
Why not? This is still 7,5 mm right? So as long as you can lift it, it shouldnt be a problem to hipfire.
@LoneWolf051
@LoneWolf051 7 жыл бұрын
if it was in Call of Duty it would be duel wielded with drum magazines, suppressors and laser ACOG reflex sights
@johnnyfedpost1776
@johnnyfedpost1776 7 жыл бұрын
not with that attitude
@grh_angelone
@grh_angelone 7 жыл бұрын
That's one of the most interesting guns I've ever seen. There are so many cool thing going on here. Not only the wacky internal mechanism, but also that automatic sight adjustment, the rate reducer and that funky flashhider. Thanks for the insight Ian!
@grh_angelone
@grh_angelone 7 жыл бұрын
I recon, the grand-grandchildren of the engineers who developed this system are now building cars for peugeot and renault :)
@williamprince1114
@williamprince1114 7 жыл бұрын
If Ian did this in French it would have been an excellent tutorial for French Army recruits. Impressive how you do these treatments so thoroughly and so often.
@eric21881
@eric21881 4 жыл бұрын
This channel made me fall in love with all sorts of weird and older guns that bored me before The damascene video started it all Really love the channel Ian You’re a fantastic educator
@Dreska_
@Dreska_ 7 жыл бұрын
Nobody warned me this video would feature *strong pornography*
@nobleactual7616
@nobleactual7616 4 жыл бұрын
That guns chin is so well-defined and hot
@cuddlepaws4423
@cuddlepaws4423 Жыл бұрын
As an ex engineer , I became more and more impressed the longer I watched the clip . It is like a giant Swiss watch in how all the seemingly confusing parts work smoothly together . The amount of thought and planning that went into it is amazing 🙂
@Viraqua
@Viraqua 7 жыл бұрын
This would look great mounted on my steam powered dinosaur.
@gerry343
@gerry343 3 жыл бұрын
19:30 I have a photo in a book on machine guns ( by Terry Gander) of a 1907 St Etienne with the same muzzle attachment. It says it was a fortification weapon and the attachment was to deflect exhaust gases away from the interior of the casemate.
@BYLRPhil
@BYLRPhil 7 жыл бұрын
Real life steampunk gun.
@BYLRPhil
@BYLRPhil 7 жыл бұрын
And he said it right after I typed that...
@MattM0481
@MattM0481 7 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to me, but I was texting a friend about the episode!
@God-mb8wi
@God-mb8wi 7 жыл бұрын
+Michael Eversberg II Wrong. Dieselpunk denotes the aesthetic being reminiscent to the interwar period. This was made in 1907. It's steampunk
@stephenborntrager6542
@stephenborntrager6542 7 жыл бұрын
But it's way closer to the interwar period than it is to the (typical) Victorian era of steampunk. Not to mention that steampunk is usually about non-war scenarios, wheras dieselpunk almost explicitly focused on these kinds of convoluted war machines. It's a wobbly line, but it's way more dieselpunk than steampunk. If it had pressure gauges and an 'aether' meter, then it would be steampunk, for sure.
@supremecaffeine2633
@supremecaffeine2633 5 жыл бұрын
@@stephenborntrager6542 the Edwardian era is also lumped in steampunk.
@silentcontender
@silentcontender 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I love you Ian. You’re literally the best.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 7 жыл бұрын
"its steampunk" does it have gears? "here's the gear in the reciever...and the gear in the loader" its steampunk alright
@1SaG
@1SaG 7 жыл бұрын
Crazy, strange or completely unexpected solutions for engineering problems ... welcome to the world of French engineering. Gotta love it! :)
@crwydryny
@crwydryny 4 жыл бұрын
despite the complexity of the mechanism I can't help but admire the elegance of it, there's so much going on it's easy for something to fail, but everything inside is set up so logically and simply with large simple parts any idiot in the trench could pop it open find what went wrong and fix it
@JohnDoe-fn1me
@JohnDoe-fn1me 7 жыл бұрын
What an awesome machinegun. I would love to have it just for the mechanics of it. It is awesome. Thanks for sharing it with us.
@kwacker45
@kwacker45 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't we see a bullet ridden version a while back??
@CptMuttonchops
@CptMuttonchops 7 жыл бұрын
We did, and actually now that I know how easy to open up it is, I kinda would have loved Ian to open that one up and see exactly what grits those holes went through.
@jamespowell6630
@jamespowell6630 Жыл бұрын
I don't thumbs up enough. You're best on your own. You so know your shit. In old blighty we have no access to guns like you. Believe me, there are millions who what awe. Seen your hair for ages. Bravo Yankee. Jimxxxxx
@bitfreakazoid
@bitfreakazoid 7 жыл бұрын
That is just one of the most awesome systems I've ever seen. I love this type of stuff. I didn't know that they had luminous sights back then. That's pretty interesting. That sight system is crazy. I wonder how much of a problem the two different metals expansion really was.
@sergei_1863
@sergei_1863 7 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful overcomplicated piece of machined steel! Quel magnifique!
@jeffengland2791
@jeffengland2791 7 жыл бұрын
But can you conceal carry it?!
@andrewamann8855
@andrewamann8855 7 жыл бұрын
Jeff England yes, but only if you're 3 children in a trenchcoat and a big, floppy hat.
@andrewamann8855
@andrewamann8855 7 жыл бұрын
and on the plus side, if you are those 3 children, you already have a full gunnery crew.
@DivingHawker
@DivingHawker 7 жыл бұрын
The tripod is foldable so I'd say yes, go for it.
@shadysandman4848
@shadysandman4848 7 жыл бұрын
If you're creative enough and don't mind walking funny, it can be concealed anywhere
@HighlanderNorth1
@HighlanderNorth1 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you could conceal carry it, as long as your first name is 'Paul', your last name starts with a 'Bun', and you carry an ENORMOUS axe! In that case, you could just 'un-tuck' your size 50-x plaid flannel shirt.
@travis062003
@travis062003 7 жыл бұрын
So educating and entertaining at the same time, its a pleasure to watch. Thank you Ian!
@totalvvar
@totalvvar 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this shooting at its slowest RoF setting
@Isaac-ho8gh
@Isaac-ho8gh 7 жыл бұрын
Hopit same.
@EDSKaR
@EDSKaR 7 жыл бұрын
dak.....ka....dak.....ka.....dak.....ka Dis iz not enuf DAKKA
@arya3528
@arya3528 7 жыл бұрын
Another great videos! And who doesn't love vintage over-complicated art deco machine gun!
@adonoghuea02
@adonoghuea02 7 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't surprise me, given Ian's penchant for french arms, that this is one of the reasons he is selling his Vickers. A rather suitable replacement.
@adonoghuea02
@adonoghuea02 7 жыл бұрын
Schmidt Rubin yes, but it's French.
@adonoghuea02
@adonoghuea02 7 жыл бұрын
Simon White yes, yes, a thousand times yes.
@seculartapes
@seculartapes 7 жыл бұрын
Schmidt Rubin indeed, I've seen pictures of Maxims in action in both Syria and the current Ukraine conflict.
@zxggwrt
@zxggwrt 7 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that, too. However, I bet he wants something he can get out and shoot without too much of a hassle. . . like a Schwerer Gustav!
@GazalAlShaqab
@GazalAlShaqab Жыл бұрын
It is palpable here how much Ian LOVES French-made arms :) "Aux armes, les citoyens !!…"
@Panzersoldat
@Panzersoldat 7 жыл бұрын
Ian, in the off chance you should happen to read this comment, I'd like to offer a suggestion for a video you could make: If you could take designs from all the machine guns you have researched and inspected, what would your perfect machine gun look like?
@daisho13
@daisho13 6 жыл бұрын
Might be my favourite video of all of fw. Awesomely enthusiastic detail from Ian, and awesome weird gun.
@calleb1594
@calleb1594 7 жыл бұрын
Are you going to change your Vickers for this ?????, Thats really cool !!!!!
@chrisjones6002
@chrisjones6002 7 жыл бұрын
That was exactly my thoughts too, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he buys it, nor would I blame him.
@THEfamouspolka
@THEfamouspolka 6 жыл бұрын
That firearm is nothing less than an exquisite piece of art, belongs in the Louvre!
@ForceSmart
@ForceSmart 7 жыл бұрын
Steampunk. That's a pretty apt description of this intriguing monster.
@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544
@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544 3 жыл бұрын
The front is definitely more Art Deco though
@markvos2692
@markvos2692 7 жыл бұрын
That muzzle break looks like a cow-catcher from a train haha! Great video Ian!
@KaletheQuick
@KaletheQuick 6 жыл бұрын
I just 3d modeled this for a D&D game. Thanks for the history, and great footage :D
@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544
@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544 3 жыл бұрын
How was the game?
@alwaystinkering7710
@alwaystinkering7710 7 жыл бұрын
That is an incredible piece of engineering and machining. The temp compensating sight dropped my jaw.
@EnderLord007
@EnderLord007 7 жыл бұрын
It's so French. Well designed with interesting features, but weird as hell and probably not the best at what it does.
@superdupergrover9857
@superdupergrover9857 7 жыл бұрын
the heat compensating mechanism comes from, i believe , clock making. the pendulum in a clock would vary according to temperature as it increases in length and therefore time. a system of brass and iron rods(which expand at different rates) was used to counteract this. to perform this required a great deal of materials science, and so, the elevation compensation would be relatively easy to design
@RaptorBeast7
@RaptorBeast7 7 жыл бұрын
15:50 what exactly does adjusting the gas system do? Does it affect performance or something?
@Isaac-ho8gh
@Isaac-ho8gh 7 жыл бұрын
RaptorBeast7 That'd affect how the piston would be pushed which would affect the RPM. By the way, it wouldn't affect any performance apart from that characteristic because this machine gun only uses the gas to operate the piston.
@EDSKaR
@EDSKaR 7 жыл бұрын
It is also to compensate for powder fouling. As you fire a gas operated gun for a large number of rounds (like, say, with a machine gun) burned powder residue builds up and can restrict the gas port. when this happens, adjust to a slightly larger aperture and you can keep firing.
@Isaac-ho8gh
@Isaac-ho8gh 7 жыл бұрын
EDSKaR Fair enough.
@brandonloy7325
@brandonloy7325 6 жыл бұрын
Quite a beautiful work of mechanical art, the door it get an the internals is awesome
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 7 жыл бұрын
What a wonderfully mechanism. I mean, it is WAY to complicated, but wow it is like looking at well crafted clock works. Also that tripod is great. It gives you all kinds of options. By the way, I think you did a video on this machine gun before, but that one was shot many times and not in good condition because of it.
@69mrsteveo
@69mrsteveo 7 жыл бұрын
That rod expansion mechanism to adjust the sight is incredible Magic. The whole gun is complex engineering.
@Freemyland
@Freemyland 7 жыл бұрын
Tried to find video of this shooting, no luck. Any hope you'd get to shoot this before the auction?
@darrellshoub7527
@darrellshoub7527 3 жыл бұрын
That is the coolest combination antique analogue computer/ car jack / drawbridge-raiser and Iron Bird Decoy .... I have ever seen. Thank you France !!!!!
@Omnihil777
@Omnihil777 5 жыл бұрын
26:00 Welcome to Tripod-Yoga. My name is Mr. McCollum.
@davidkohler7454
@davidkohler7454 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Ian spazes out on French firearms. He just about overloaded on that really cool tripod. Good stuff.
@Twirlyhead
@Twirlyhead 7 жыл бұрын
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen type gun.
@meparofr4694
@meparofr4694 3 жыл бұрын
I come from the city of manufacturing of this weapon ( Saint-Étienne), Very proud to see that my city is known through the world
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 7 жыл бұрын
The only appropriate description for this level of weirdness is French.
@SledgeHammerMindOpener
@SledgeHammerMindOpener 5 жыл бұрын
said the guy who don't know shit about france .
@walterkurtz4360
@walterkurtz4360 7 жыл бұрын
Really glad you got to do a video on one of these thats not full of bullet holes this is an extremely kool weapon mechanically
@alpbartuakdemir6489
@alpbartuakdemir6489 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting piece of gun art
@pkt1213
@pkt1213 7 жыл бұрын
What a really cool/complicated machine gun. The side door really emphasizes the interesting internal workings.
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