If I had a nickel for every time a team named the Browns moved to Baltimore, I would have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
@KTF02 жыл бұрын
And they said "F*ck it" to the Browns name.
@badgerden70802 жыл бұрын
Yes, but the difference is that the old Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore and have been one of the better teams in the NFL since moving there.
@jimj4583 Жыл бұрын
Now THAT’S funny! I never thought of that. Great documentary, huh?
@jpmnky Жыл бұрын
@@KTF0 Exactly what I was going to say. The Orioles certainly had their time. Earl Weaver is probably my favorite manager of all time.
@tee1up7853 жыл бұрын
My grandfather played for the St Louis Browns! He only played a season or two. He slid into third and snapped his ankle. He was a catcher. He got his nickname “Dutch” form the guys. Not sure he ever got over not being able to play longer. He joined the AirForce and was a heavy drinker but he was my Hero! He passed my JR year of HS. 1995. RIP Grandpa ❤️
@matthewstic22 жыл бұрын
My great-grandfather played for the Browns in 1926 after graduating from Auburn. He was a pitcher until he ended up with what would become the injury that would end his career. He spent half a season in A level before playing B and C ball for the rest of his career.
@tee1up7852 жыл бұрын
@@matthewstic2 Thanks for sharing that Matt. In conversation whenever it comes up I mention that my grandfather played professional baseball. When I mention the St Louis Browns people look at me like I’m crazy. But then again I get it because I wouldn’t know of them if my grandpa didn’t play there. How far technology has come. Medically*
@scallywag49782 жыл бұрын
Sweet memory. He haunts the game along with the other ghosts.
@anthonyfowler26232 жыл бұрын
Woah
@anthonyfowler26232 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome
@DrGonzoChronic4 жыл бұрын
That one World Series home run for the Browns is still one more than the Mariners.
@wvu052 жыл бұрын
"The Seattle Mariners are not competitors. They are protagonists." Jon Bois
@metaphoria32 жыл бұрын
@@wvu05 they’re everyone’s 2nd fav team but they’re my current fav and as a baseball .. ahem .. they’re gonna go on a great run lets put it that way
@TheBatugan778 ай бұрын
😊😅😂😁😆
@seannewberry79416 ай бұрын
One day soon…. GOM’s!!
@michaelleroy92814 ай бұрын
That sounds more like a joke than baseball history
@BrendenNichols2 жыл бұрын
How can you not romanticize the game of baseball after watching such a well-produced documentary? The St. Louis Browns are the kind of team I would root for if I didn’t already have a favorite team. They were constantly the underdogs, had to get creative to attract more fans, didn’t find success often but were always fun to witness. You never knew what they would do next to generate some sort of intrigue. They had to go play a women’s baseball team just to make enough money to travel to a game in Cleveland. They won their only pennant in 1944 and played the World Series against their fellow St. Louis team in the National League. The Browns are a magical team with so many fun oddities. I would have wanted to rally around them. This documentary is exceptional and one of the best I’ve ever had the pleasure of watching.
@thisguy85425 жыл бұрын
Don’t you name a team the Browns..Baltimore will take them.
@wiedep4 жыл бұрын
Amazing, after all these years I never thought of that!
@robertdore95924 жыл бұрын
You need to let it go brother :-)
@danmoir74974 жыл бұрын
@MANCHESTER UNITED Good for it. I prefer to keep the best game to myself and my fellow fans.
@danmoir74974 жыл бұрын
@MANCHESTER UNITED Baseball >>> Mancs
@Hespeakstruth4 жыл бұрын
The Browns were the Milwaukee Brewers. So you dont name them the Browns.
@villageelliott5 жыл бұрын
The Grandstand Manager holding up the sign at the left of the photo at 44:52 is my father, a lifelong Brownie fan. To him, George Sisler was "the Man." Born in St Louis in 1913, he lived within blocks of Sportsman's Park until he was drafted in late, 1943 and He was heartbroken to have missed the Streetcar Series while stationed on Guam with the Army-Air Corp I was born in March, 1951. He spoke about the Browns often.
@matttelthorst25655 жыл бұрын
Excellent story -- thanks for sharing!
@QED_5 жыл бұрын
@villageelliott: What rotten luck to have missed that 1944 World Series . . .
@travisp57474 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@crocodile13134 жыл бұрын
What great memories!
@PittsburghMarky3 жыл бұрын
Great story. And you describe the true horrors of war so well. MISSING THE STREETCAR SERIES!!!!!!! No further comment needed.
@tyavalos3 жыл бұрын
My grandpa told me that his dad was a Browns fan. He told me that one time he called the Browns front office and told them: “That damned shortstop is so god awful, y’all ought to trade him for a horse and then shoot the horse!” 🤣🤣
@TheBatugan772 жыл бұрын
That's rude.
@iangraydaniel4 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Bob Cain for being the only MLB player to attend Eddie Gaedel’s funeral. “I never even met him, but felt obligated to go.”
@dalethelander37812 жыл бұрын
That kooky Bill Veeck.
@bobcoats27082 жыл бұрын
That was a fine thing for Mr. Cain to do.
@tomdulle17074 жыл бұрын
Great documentary! And kudos to the narration by Jon Hamm.
@anthonyfowler26232 жыл бұрын
A cardinal fan
@steelers6titles5 жыл бұрын
"Boys, I can't fight, and so there is no courage about me. Courage belongs on the battlefield, not on the baseball diamond."--R.I.P. Pete Gray 1915-2002
@robertsprouse92822 жыл бұрын
He should've been mentioned, or did I just blink and miss that?
@karlhess7064 Жыл бұрын
I waited and waited for the 'Pete Gray' part of this documentary. What happened ?
@Pocketrocket-pj1us Жыл бұрын
I had never heard about him, so I looked him up on the net. He had a movie made about him and a book as well. He was the first 1 arm player in MLB history, playing one season. His story is inspiring but a bit sad. I'm not sure if that was why he was left out of this video, but considering the team's story, he fits in perfectly, IMHO. For others, who were like me, check out his story on Wikipedia. He also had a mention in Ken Burn's Baseball documentry. Cheers from Canada
@Chris-lh7wj4 жыл бұрын
I was reading some letters that my grandfather had written in 1944 while fighting in the Pacific, and he mentions the world series saying " I recon St Louis will win". Out of curiosity, I looked it up just to see if he was right, when I realized his joke.
@TheBrooklynbodine3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Last year (2020) was the 1st time since 1944 that every World Series game was played in the same venue. Interestingly both Series ran six games.
@TheBrooklynbodine3 жыл бұрын
Another thing: That was the only pennant the St. Louis Browns would win; they'd not win another till 1966, when they swept the Dodgers in the World Series (by then they were the Baltimore Orioles). The Orioles would win 5 more AL pennants, namely 1969-71, '79, and '83, winning the World Series in '70 and '83.
@fosbury684 жыл бұрын
Narrated by St Louis native Jon Hamm (Don Draper of Mad Men)
@chrisS190193 жыл бұрын
@@dgm2485 whoa! Yeah there’s a baritone quality it sounds like him.
@stoneshire6453 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! I was getting ready to Google this info when I saw your comment
@karlhess7064 Жыл бұрын
I have 6 seasons of Mad Men; and I have to say it does not sound like him.
@ronaldcammarata34224 жыл бұрын
Nice documentary about the Brownies (though a little too much about the Cardinals, I think). There's no sports history like baseball history. -Orioles Fan
@patrickcolon88094 жыл бұрын
The Browns are "Our American Cousin" ....... in 2003, the Orioles dressed in BROWNS uniforms for a turn-back-the-clock game against the Cardinals. 2.bp.blogspot.com/_kl-4VYh7R3Y/SP0vKlaAvyI/AAAAAAAAA4k/kc1bI1X1yic/s1600/04MORAUD.JPG
@baoboumusic4 жыл бұрын
37:55 Bill Veeck, worth his weight in adjectives. That's a boisterous, unconventional, brilliant and uncompromising sentence. I love it.
@Lawomenshoops4 жыл бұрын
They should have included Ichiro, visited Sisler's grave when he was in St. Louis for the 2009 All Star Game!
@PittsburghMarky3 жыл бұрын
Now that is a great story! Game respecting game! Generational divides are so overrated.
@timothywilliams13592 жыл бұрын
My father tried out for the St. Louis Browns when he graduated from the Missouri Military Academy in 1947. They offered him a small contract to play somewhere, but he decided to play ball on a scholarship to St. Benedict's College in Atchison, Kansas. When he was a college Junior, the Browns told him they were still interested, but then the Korean War came along, and that was the end of his baseball career. (COL Dennis H. Williams, d. 1991.)
@TheBatugan772 жыл бұрын
Your Dad and mine both served in the Korean War. God Bless and rest them both.
@marcm99995 жыл бұрын
This is one of the finest sports/baseball documentaries I have ever seen in my 66 years on this earth. Bravo!!! Well Done. Powerful!! Thank you for your fine work.
@michaelhardin4703 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more.
@karlhess7064 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't disagree more ! Where was Pete Gray ?! An outrage !
@liketocriticize22104 жыл бұрын
What a great story. You gotta love baseball...and you gotta remember the history.
@EricCVoice4 жыл бұрын
I live in Baltimore and everyone here should remember the Browns. It is part of franchise history!
@catholiccrusader53284 жыл бұрын
Didn't your city once had another Orioles team before the Browns?
@Jacobthekid284 жыл бұрын
@@catholiccrusader5328 I'm not from Baltimore but I know that they did. That team eventually turned into the New York Yankees.
@Dirtnation24 жыл бұрын
O's played Cardinals last time in Busch II. O's had throwback browns jersey's on and won the game i was at.
@amazing500004 жыл бұрын
@@Jacobthekid28 They also had a Baltimore Orioles team before that in the National League, who won 3 NL Pennants in the 1890s and one of their players was John McGraw. That franchise folded in 1899.
@johnjacobs16254 жыл бұрын
@@Jacobthekid28 You Just had to remind us. My most favorite hated team the Yanks. From an O's fan. Yep and the Bambino was from Baltimore. We know.
@tonysparkstrees4 жыл бұрын
I love baseball
@rustywilliamson71404 жыл бұрын
Boy, was this piece great!! A wonderful retrospective of the Brownies. And to have Don Draper narrate. What's not to like? Thanks so much for posting!
@SSNESS Жыл бұрын
The Yankees need a new logo
@bumpusjones.19784 жыл бұрын
I believe the Browns were the only MLB team to move from a city and then tried to move back to the city they left. Like the Raiders in Oakland. 1901 the Browns were the original Milwaukee Brewers moved for 1902 to St Louis and when they moved to Baltimore they actually tried to move back to Milwaukee. But what most people don’t know is in 1952 three teams wanted to move to Milwaukee. The Braves of course, Browns and it seems ridiculous today but the third team was the Cardinals. And another strange thing is that the Brewers moved after one year in Milwaukee to St. Louis the only other teams to spend only one year in a city and move was the Seattle Pilots who moved to Milwaukee. Odd symmetry of the game.
@camoss37242 жыл бұрын
Anheuser Busch stepped in to buy the Cardinals in 1953 when it appeared that an ownership from Milwaukee might purchase the franchise. That prompted Bill Veeck, then the owner of the St. Louis Browns, to look to move his team elsewhere. Veeck knew he couldn't compete with the financial might of Anheuser Busch, but the other owners saw a golden opportunity to rid themselves of the maverick owner. They gave Veeck permission to move the club to Baltimore, but with one condition--that he sell the team. Veeck ultimately sold his majority interest in the team to a group of investors headed by Baltimore attorney Clarence Miles, and the Browns became the Orioles in 1954.
@davezanko90512 жыл бұрын
@@camoss3724 And the other thing to note about that is Clarence Miles and the rest of the Baltimore group were flush with cash to buy the Browns in large part because they had such tremendous attendance for the minor league Orioles they already owned. And that was in large part because those Orioles were forced to move into Memorial Stadium after their old wooden ballpark burned down. In fact, the minor league Orioles had better attendance than many major league teams at the time. Considering how moribund the Browns were, it was less the Browns being sold and moved, and more the cash-flush Orioles buying the Browns' spot in the AL. Even the 1954 Orioles uniforms were the same as the 1953 minor league team's.
@davezanko90512 жыл бұрын
Also, to say the original Brewers spent only one year in Milwaukee is not the whole picture. They spent only one major league season there. But the American League was founded as a reorganization of the Western League, a minor league with teams in the emerging cities of the upper Midwest, like Minneapolis, St Paul, Kansas City, Indianapolis, and Detroit. By the time the AL declared itself a major league in 1901, most of those teams had been moved to larger cities that either already had NL teams or had just been dropped by the NL after the 1899 Cleveland Spiders scandal. That the original Milwaukee Brewers, who had been around since 1892, were still in the AL in 1901 was just a matter of not having moved them already before the season. The same thing nearly happened to Detroit, as AL President Ban Johnson supposedly wanted to move the team to Pittsburgh but it didn't happen before peace with the NL was made and so the Detroit Tigers are the sole former Western League team still in their original city with their original name. (It's also the justification given that the Tigers and Pirates are "designated interleague rivals" for scheduling purposes.)
@robertsprouse92822 жыл бұрын
Here's one for you: ONE OF THE ORIGINAL NICKNAMES FOR THE CARDINALS WAS...BROWN STOCKINGS named after an earlier independent major pro team and then a non-affiliated NATIONAL ASSOCIATION league club and right after the latter, an NL club in year one of the NL= 1876, twas a squad called the Brown Stockings, and shortly afterward...THE BROWNS, while the 1890's BROWNS did not start in the NL. Rather, they began in the then Major League, the AMERICAN ASSOCIATION..BEFORE MOVING TO THE NL where shortly afterward they moved to a new name to become the CARDINALS. In 1901, CAME THE FIRST MILWAUKEE BREWERS, and the minor league WESTERN LEAGUE changed its name to the AMERICAN LEAGUE and sought and got MLB STATUS. IN 1902 in the A.L., HERE CAME THE BROWNS..UNTIL '54, WHEN THE PLAYERS WERE MOVED TO BALTIMORE, the latter was the first MLB labeled baseball club in that town since the ORIOLES of the BRAND NEW A.L. IN 1901.. The next season that team became the NY HIGHLANDERS, AND A DECADE LATER, it became the NY.. YANKEES..
@robertsprouse92822 жыл бұрын
S.DIEGO CHARGERS back to L.A IN 2016 ADDED TO THAT.
@semc19864 жыл бұрын
"People in St. Louis don't talk much about the World's Fair much these days" ...you're not from St. Louis, are you?
@djpass-mi4bi4 жыл бұрын
Pete Grey wasn't mentioned. There's a good book about baseball in the war years, "Even the Browns" by William B. Mead.
@jaytrace10063 жыл бұрын
I also was waiting for mention to be made of Pete Grey. The fact that he was able to make the Majors despite his disability is an incredible ability in itself.
@barbaradarnell.38024 жыл бұрын
19:10 second from right is Dizzy Dean,last thirty game winner in the National League (1934)
@DateTwoRelate4 жыл бұрын
The Browns became the Orioles at one point and then at another Angelos turned them back into the Browns again. A disgrace. Don't the beer pour W-A-R-M! Chuck Thompson is rolling over in his grave (but wearing his hat)
@rpc7173 жыл бұрын
Loved this story, but how did they tell it without mentioning Pete Gray??
@karlhess7064 Жыл бұрын
I agree; outrageous !!
@mickey8355 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I JUST POSTED A COMMENT REFERRING TO THAT...
@richardk78334 жыл бұрын
I agree with a previous comment, how do you leave Pete Gray off of this documentary, one armed players were as rare as a Browns victory, I know I'm from Cleveland!
@karlhess7064 Жыл бұрын
Pete's deletion must have a background story here. I still can't believe it !
@djtdub14 жыл бұрын
Pete Gray is mentioned in the part 2 documentary. A Baseball Legacy....
@jingram584 жыл бұрын
I love the Browns, and I wish the Orioles would at least acknowledge their existence.
@mattheweggleton78874 жыл бұрын
@MetalCrow448 you are a mean person. You probably have a tiny wiener.
@ThePmfan4 жыл бұрын
There was at least one throwback game in which the O's wore Browns unis. Probably interleague vs Cards.
@superbrownbrown3 жыл бұрын
*I agree. Major League Baseball should force the Baltimore Orioles to acknowledge and incorporate the history of the St. Louis Browns into their history. It's the same team and franchise.*
@vfedcwsx31143 жыл бұрын
Pete Grey wasn't mentioned. There's a good book about baseball in the war years, "Even the Browns" by William B. Mead.
@adamredfield4 жыл бұрын
I love this doc but, as some other posters have pointed out, why was Pete Gray left out?
@karlhess7064 Жыл бұрын
I am still in disbelief !
@2012photograph4 жыл бұрын
Is this Sisler that Joe D Miaggio broke hitting streak?
@downtownbobbybrown62374 жыл бұрын
yup
@Hespeakstruth4 жыл бұрын
What about Pete Gray?
@naturetrails83574 жыл бұрын
They didn’t mention the guy with one arm who played for browns during ww2 , there is a movie about him abc did called a winner never quits
@karlhess7064 Жыл бұрын
Pete Gray's deletion from this doc. must have a reason.........
@markov8862 жыл бұрын
A big overlook by ignoring the almost-move to LA in December 1941.
@davidswift77764 жыл бұрын
Loved this, loved George Sisler... the greatest of the Browns without any measure of comparison 👍 St Louis :4th largest city in 1902, 600,000.Today 19th with ~300,000, amazing. “ it was a rivalry of the heart..” excellent insight Phil Ball vs Brach Rickey changed the course of legacy of possible success. BTW, died in 1933 of Sepsiis at only 59 in 1933. Interestingly the Cardinals were tenants to the Browns ! Chuck Stevens passed in 2018 at 99 ! Thoroughly enjoyed the documentary but was rather surprised that Pete Gray was never mentioned, or did I miss that?
@Breeder3334 жыл бұрын
I wish I was alive when the game was still a game of and for the people.
@johnjacobs16254 жыл бұрын
Before the strike?
@dalethelander37812 жыл бұрын
@@johnjacobs1625 Which strike?
@johnjacobs16252 жыл бұрын
@@dalethelander3781 94-95
@dalethelander37812 жыл бұрын
@@johnjacobs1625 K. I didn't think it was '72, but had to make sure.
@johnjacobs16252 жыл бұрын
@@dalethelander3781 I was on The Field @ the VET ON Pete Rose Day ion July 6 1986 with my Orioles Stuff on!! :) JJ Pete went down hill from there!
@adzisme4 жыл бұрын
Just sitting here thinking while watching this...its likely that MLB owns the Browns name and logos...so why not have a weekend where the Cardinals pay homage to this franchise, and wear the Browns Uniform? People would eat it up...Browns Gear would go flying out of the team shop...
@michaelward98803 жыл бұрын
I think that's a great idea!
@superbrownbrown3 жыл бұрын
*I agree, except it should be the Baltimore Orioles that should wear the throwback uniforms, not the Cardinals. Major League Baseball should force the Baltimore Orioles to acknowledge and incorporate the history of the St. Louis Browns into their history. It's the same team and franchise.*
@duroshebanja68103 жыл бұрын
The Browns almost moved to LA in 1942!They were given permission to, in '41, by the AL. Im surprised this vid didn't mention it. Pearl Harbor took care of the move, they didn't want a MLB, near a potential Japanese air attack. So that World Series of 1966 could have been the LA Browns against the still Brooklyn Dodgers? Or both teams in LA for a inter city WS?
@robertadams51072 жыл бұрын
I've been baseball fan 60 years I live here in Baltimore my late father told me stories about the Browns how we got them and I was born in 54 the year the Orioles come to town I love baseball I love the history of it I enjoyed watching this story about the Browns and I hope to never forgotten at at least Baseball fans
@TurdFerg1174 жыл бұрын
My Great grandfather Frank Crossin played from 1912-14 then got shipped to war. He holds/held a record of unassisted double plays as a catcher until Jorge Posada tied it in 2001. He still holds it however just with Jorge now.
@fdsuperstar25474 жыл бұрын
The St. Louis Browns won the World Series in my old timers strat o matic game . It included teams like the ‘27 & 61 Yankees among the 16 AL Old time teams AL teams I had. The Browns won my AL pennant & defeated the ‘53 Dodgers, who were also in a 16 team NL league, 4 games to 1. My Browns were the 1922 team.
@ianreed95713 жыл бұрын
"Gorgeous" George Sisler was the greatest first baseman of all time until 1923. That year he suffered a severe sinus infection that greatly affected his vision and a young slugger named Lou Gehrig emerged onto the scene. The rest is history.
@jasont99074 жыл бұрын
Became a storied franchise my hometown Baltimore Orioles
@timrobinson75195 жыл бұрын
Good story glad someone thought to remember them poor Brownies
@user-sb1vz9pv5y5 жыл бұрын
A lot of the players had a hardship during WW2. Yeah it was playing for the Browns.
@robertdore95924 жыл бұрын
Some of these guys were marketing geniuses; they put today's so called creatives to shame. What a great story...
@daltonfarris4 жыл бұрын
I'd say I wish the browns would have won the 1944 world series, but even if they had won, I cant imagine they would still be in st. Louis today. They still would have left at some point.
@JohnSmith-kz8yo4 жыл бұрын
I can't understand how a small city like St' Louis had 2 MLB at all. NY Chicago Boston..even Philly I can understand but not St. Louis..
@daltonfarris4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-kz8yo st. Louis is huge. 2.8 million people live there its considered the 8th largest in the country. It could still support 2 teams their fan base would overlap. It would work, to make st. Louis people like casual fans in mid mo who support the cardinals and royals only make them fans of st. Louis baseball where the cardinals are your Nl team browns are you r al team. Like if support the NFL tampa bay buccs and xfl tampa vipers
@HB-kf4rg2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-kz8yo Both St. Louis City and the region were much more populated back then than now. Populated enough to support two teams until towards the end of the Browns’ run here.
@scarhart534 жыл бұрын
Obviously, the team did not disappear. They simply moved to Baltimore where they still play as the Orioles. Lots of teams have changed cities. What a strange thing to miss. And why would the Orioles not celebrate their greatest player from their time in St Louis?
@davezanko90512 жыл бұрын
It's a bit different when the team doesn't just change cities but also it's nickname, unlike the other four teams that moved in the 50s (Braves, Athletics, Dodgers, and Giants), which all kept the same nicknames and therefore indicated a claimed continuity of history. Those teams also still had the same owners after they moved (at least initially), while the former Browns were under new ownership. It's especially different when the new name and uniforms adopted were the exact same as the minor league team that had played in the new city for decades. And that the new owners had been the owners of that minor league team. Although technically the Browns moved, in many meaningful ways it was more like the Orioles bought the Browns' spot in the AL. Although not exactly the same, as they were an expansion team, the San Diego Padres are somewhat analogous, being that the not only did the NL team take the name of the minor league team that was playing in the city right up to the year before, but the original owner of the major league team was the same owner of that minor league team.
@mariocisneros9112 жыл бұрын
Three teams forgotten : St Louis Browns , Philadelphia Athletics and the Washington Senators. The Browns inner city rival was so successful while they were not, made them not remembered..unlike Philadelphia Athletics who were the opposite of the Phillies than . They were on top their 1st 35 yrs, but owner got old and couldn't be replaced.
@ernestolombardo58114 жыл бұрын
How does that Monty Python song go? "Always look on the Brown side of life"
@terrymorrison47845 жыл бұрын
This is a great story. Very enjoyable for fans of baseball history.
@tonyt25884 жыл бұрын
I was disappointed they didn't go back to the 1880's. The documentary cut the cord from the original Browns, the St. Louis Brown Stockings (which became the Cardinals) as cleanly as did Baltimore, which it lamented. I can reluctantly understand as the American Association is not now considered a major league, but in it's time the line distinguishing a major league was very much blurred. The National League calling itself the major league was more publicity driven to drive profits than level of talent driven. After all, many potential major league Hall of Famers playing in the Pacific Coast League refused to sign "Major League" contracts because they were already making more money than they were offered. Same thing with the American Association in the 1880's and the Western League in the 1890's, which is recognized as a major league as all who played in it and then played in the AL and NL kept their WL stats as part of their lifetime major league record (except for Sam Crawford for some reason, who would breech the 3,000 hit mark if they were for him). Funny thing, Buster Keaton, the silent film genius in the 1920's, was offered a major league contract after his film company baseball team beat several major league teams in spring exhibition games. They offered him the unheard of rookie salary of $10,000 a year. He turned it down. He was making $20,000 a WEEK in the movie industry. As a side note: The guy in the middle at 58:41 is Johnny Barardino; Dr. what's his name on the soap opera General Hospital for two decades.
@cedricgist76144 жыл бұрын
I know Bill James made a case for disregarding the Union Association as a Major League but I didn't know the American Association was similarly challenged.
@TheBatugan772 жыл бұрын
Google Ken Williams. First 30-30 man and an RBI machine. One helluva ballplayer. DO IT NOW!
@raypavey11025 жыл бұрын
Very good documentary many forget about the St louis Browns
@loyaldude104 жыл бұрын
story of Browns owner Bill Veeck signing midget Eddie Gaedell to a contract is hilarious. I heard pitcher was laughing so hard he couldn't come close to throwing a strike. Gaedell, after walking on 4 pitches and being removed for pinch runner, bowed to cheering crowd. Veeck won a championship as owner of Cleveland in 1948, so if Cardinals did not dominate the City maybe he could have won one with Browns.
@daltonfarris4 жыл бұрын
The pitcher who walked Gaedell was the only Baseball person who attended Gaedell's funeral.
@catholiccrusader53284 жыл бұрын
How come the one armed player for the Browns wasn't mentioned?
@downtownbobbybrown62374 жыл бұрын
I agree but at least mccarver and costas weren't nariators in this video.
@FrankTownsend4 жыл бұрын
As a UK baseball nut I really enjoyed this excellent documentary about the sport’s (almost) forgotten team.
@daryldixon36854 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it pretty rare for a person from the UK 🇬🇧 to be a baseball fan?
@FrankTownsend4 жыл бұрын
Daryl Dixon - there are a more of us than you might think! Games are on very late over here though..
@stormwatcher5284 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thanks for all the work putting this together.
@mariocisneros9113 жыл бұрын
Sharing a stadium is a bad fate , especially when the other team is often winning
@bradleyferrell21194 жыл бұрын
A very good documentary. Though I am an Oriole fan I am also a baseball history fanatic and knew of the Browns. They had some good players through the years, besides George Sisler and others they mentioned there was Harlond Clift, Marty McManus, Red Kress, Del Pratt and Urban Shocker.
@jakedasnake77034 жыл бұрын
Bradley Ferrell ken Williams too I guess
@chrisratcliff74662 жыл бұрын
It's a shame they didn't save Sportsmans Park. My dad always said it was the best place ever in St Louis to see a game.
@bertmustin4 жыл бұрын
The Browns are the Orioles. The history of the franchise went with Baltimore.
@TheBatugan774 жыл бұрын
You better check yourself, bert.
@ThePmfan4 жыл бұрын
@@TheBatugan77 he is right, since there were carry over players, but the O's conciously decided to hardly ever mention them. The NFL made the decision for Baltimore w the NFL Browns/Ravens.
@larrybd1004 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Well done from start to finish. Head & shoulders above most documentaries.
@davidcameron15144 жыл бұрын
Didn’t Bing Crosby wear a St. Louis Browns jacket in “Going My Way”?
@TheBatugan774 жыл бұрын
I think a cap too. i would LOVE those.
@liduck524 жыл бұрын
@@TheBatugan77 You can get that online. Try Google.
@downtownbobbybrown62374 жыл бұрын
yup
@Lawomenshoops4 жыл бұрын
It's interesting, there are some teams that moved or folded since the Browns and people just don't care. KC A's, Seattle Pilots, if/when Tampa Bay moves to Portland, nobody will care. NBA-Vancouver Grizzlies, Buffalo Braves, San Diego Clippers- yes I know the Braves moved to SD and became the Clippers. NHL-Atlanta Flames, Colorado Rockies, KC Scouts, Oakland Seals, Atlanta Thrashers. NFL- Chicago Cardinals, St. Louis Cardinals, Dallas Texans,
@frankandrews95224 жыл бұрын
Loved attending those Oakland/California Golden Seals games as a child.
@TheBatugan772 жыл бұрын
You're right. I don't care. GivesAShit?
@johnsantello85153 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this documentary, but how did Pete Gray, a one-armed outfielder that played for the SLB's in 1945, hitting .218 with one arm, not get a mention?
@pinballpsycho3 жыл бұрын
Another team you don't hear much about is the old Houston Colt 45's, they were around for a couple of years when I was a kid. You do hear about the Washington Senators from time to time, though.
@denncorby41152 жыл бұрын
True but the Colt .45s became the Astros which have been doing pretty good of late.
@tomb45754 жыл бұрын
Didn't actor Johnny Bernadino of Soap Opera General Hospital play for The Browns but was in the military during the World Series. I think Don Larsen began with the Browns.
@CaseyJones-qp2tc5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Thanks so much for posting this!
@sdgakatbk5 жыл бұрын
Some of these stories are priceless.
@xerirenee84614 жыл бұрын
The Browns left St. Louis before I was born. But I have always been fan enough to be curious about this team's history. I enjoyed this program a great deal.
@TheSports502 жыл бұрын
Great Story. Always wanted to know about St Louis Browns
@cityhawk4 жыл бұрын
Even a blind squirrel finds a bit once in a while.
@jeffha40574 жыл бұрын
Great documentary. Really enjoyed it.
@Vagus320003 жыл бұрын
Long live the 1922 St Louis Browns!! The GREATEST Browns team EVER!!
@hattorihanzo22754 жыл бұрын
Bill Veeck was a boss.
@rolandotavarez2553 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@christopher63392 жыл бұрын
Had I lived in St. Louis, the Browns would have DEFINITELY been my team.
@mrsvirgotiger3 жыл бұрын
All that and not one mention of Pete Grey.
@globalnettuber6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this.
@Lawomenshoops4 жыл бұрын
In 1920, both St. Louis teams finished in last place. I only found that out, after doing some research about the Black Sox. I wonder if that- both teams in a city- finishing in last place- has happened since. I'm betting it would be Chicago-since both the White Sox and cubs both sucked for long periods of time. And since the 1970's only Chicago, NY, LA, and the SF area have had two teams in the same market.
@RichmondAtty4 жыл бұрын
Both the Washington Nationals and the Baltimore Orioles finished 2008, 2009, and 2010 last in the NL and AL East, respectively. These two baseball parks are but 38 miles apart. This is not much farther than the 31 miles between Los Angeles and Anaheim or San Francisco and Oakland. The white-collar Washington Nationals and the blue-collar Baltimore Orioles also "share" the MASN TV network, which the two ownership groups continue fighting over.
@Exileander4 жыл бұрын
I believe that the A's and Phillies finished last some time in the '30s.
@Lawomenshoops4 жыл бұрын
@@RichmondAtty Great find! Yeah, I should have included the Baltimore/DC area as another with two teams. It's interesting, Anaheim is considered the LA TV market, for ratings etc. But, I think the Baltimore and DC are considered two separate markets!
@antonybrown4324 жыл бұрын
If Josh Gibson would have been able to play Major League Baseball he would have been a much better hitter than Babe Ruth put that in your pipe and smoke it
@ThePmfan4 жыл бұрын
It is impossible to be "much better" than Babe Ruth at hitting. He may have been marginally better, but not much room above that level.
@Cincinnatus18692 жыл бұрын
Horse shit.
@Dave-fs5uu4 жыл бұрын
They should have folded the history of the St. Louis Browns into the Cardinals. They could have done something like that. Either that or the Orioles should respect their past. The A's for example were once in Philly they didn't go leave Philly, change their name and forget their past. Of course A's won championships in Philly before leaving, so that helped I'm sure.
@ashleyp36624 жыл бұрын
In a cardnal fan but from st louis love the history
@CastleMr404 жыл бұрын
Dear narrator: at 2:27 you say "crosstown rivals." Excuse me. They played at the same place!
@williamgroves31344 жыл бұрын
That is mention.
@TheBatugan774 жыл бұрын
Great point. Cross field rivals?
@CastleMr404 жыл бұрын
Boston, Chicago, and New York had "crosstown rivals". Philadelphia and St Louis had Nat League and American League teams in the SAME stadium, so there was nothing "crosstown" about those. Just sayin'
@kibitznec7004 жыл бұрын
Well thats a way to talk. Dont take it literalmente uds. cabezones batuga y el casle.
@ericstoverink65794 жыл бұрын
Up until 1920 the Cardinals played at Robison Field, where Beaumont HS is now, while the Browns played at Sportsman's Park.
@jeremycagle192 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this! Thank you!
@theworldwariioldtimeradioc86762 жыл бұрын
It is too bad that the Orioles don’t want to acknowledge their St. Louis roots. I do have two retro Browns jerseys and one hat. I’m a Cubs fan btw.
@Pb-ij4ip4 жыл бұрын
Lifelong Cards fan and the only player jersey I own is number 6...and well...sorry Stan, I love an underdog too. (But I’m not crying about the outcome.)
@louisdavid25084 жыл бұрын
my fathers favorite team.
@Diosprometheus4 жыл бұрын
Baltimore likes to collect teams named the Browns. Two for Two. One from St. Lou, one from Cleveland.
@yakamarezlife3 жыл бұрын
We gave the football team back though
@kevinw90734 жыл бұрын
Great production. Well done! A++
@garyoconnordbaairrepair77754 жыл бұрын
I am 65 and have known about the St. L. Browns. Being a Dodgers fan since 1963, George Sisler is on the top of my list of top MLB players.
@douglasiannucci58534 жыл бұрын
Born in Providence, I love non sequiturs.
@pariswatkins48414 жыл бұрын
Didn't the Dean Brothers played for the Cards?
@tomace79243 жыл бұрын
First in shoes, First in booze and last in the American League!!!
@zerubbablestranger69703 жыл бұрын
Bravo! What an excellent documentary! Because of this fine documentary, I am now a ST. LOUIS BROWNS fan!
@williamsnyder56164 жыл бұрын
I've been a lifetime Tigers fan. We lost the '44 pennant by one game to the Browns. I wasn't alive then, but if I were, I would've rooted for the Browns..
@27vaquayit2 жыл бұрын
Very well done and extremely interesting,, but I don't understand how you can produce a documentary about the Browns and not mention either Pete Gray or the Whitey Witt pop bottle incident in 1922. Those two seem to be the most defining moments in Browns history.
@Pugiron4 жыл бұрын
No reason for Baltimore to complain about the Colts is there?
@ThePmfan4 жыл бұрын
Baltimore got the Cleveland Browns and the St. Louis Browns.