The (Staggering) Siege of Orléans 1428 / 29 | Hundred Years' War

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In 1428 an English army commanded by the kingdom’s most formidable general, the Earl of Salisbury, arrived at the French town of Orléans. This marked a turning point in the Hundred Years’ War between the Kingdoms of France and England. In 1428 England had the upper hand, and the attack on the strategically important city of Orléans was meant to devastate French resistance. But France had an ace up its sleeves: a warrior maiden, instructed by divine visions, was to unite the kingdom's people and give them fresh hope. Orléans was the siege that made the famous Joan of Arc a leader, a national hero, and ultimately a legend. This is how modern historiography tells the story of the staggering siege of Orléans.
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Bibliography
Barker, J., Conquest. The English Kingdom of France 1417-1450, Harvard 2012.
DeVries, K., Joan of Arc. A Military Leader, Thrupp/Shrout/Gloucestershire 1999.
Pernoud, R., ed., The Retrial of Joan of Arc: The Evidence at the Trial for Her Rehabilitation, trans. J.M. Cohen, London, 1955.
Pernoud, R./Clin, M.-V., Joan of Arc. Her Story, New York 1998.
Pollard, A.J., John Talbot and the War in France 1427-1453, Barnsley 22005.
Journal du siege d'Orleans, in: Quicherat, Jules, Histoire du siege d'Orleans et des honneurs rendus a la Pucelle, Paris, 1854. Quicherat, Jules, Histoire du siege d'Orleans et des honneurs rendus a la Pucelle, Paris, 1854, vol. IV, p 155.
Taylor, L. J., The Virgin Warrior. Life and Death of Joan of Arc, Yale 2009.

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@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory Жыл бұрын
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@azopeopaz3059
@azopeopaz3059 Жыл бұрын
any hope to say a video about the batle of patay? i think english video maker want to forget this batle since you not english you may be interest ?
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done video
@roballister5269
@roballister5269 Жыл бұрын
glad to see ur doing those intros with the clouds and music as the book opens, love those intros!
@valentin.d681
@valentin.d681 Жыл бұрын
I discovered this channel a week ago and the quality of the videos is really astonishing ! However I have an advise, the English tend to anglicize the names of foreign battles. So no need to say Agincourt with a French accent because in French it is not said like that.
@arnijulian6241
@arnijulian6241 Жыл бұрын
5,300 English& Burgundians which many of the 1500 left leaving 3800 though possibly less at 3200 vs over 6000 to 7000 French & Scottish soldiers with at least 3,000 armed angry peasants. less then 5000 vs over 9000. It is embarrassing that France in the defence of siege had to wait out the English for over 6 months till a women claiming visions from god came to save them. The English lost Thomas Montague the only real command a week or 2 into the siege yet the French still could deal with a smaller for4ce besieging them?:) My that is ridiculous! It is generally recommended to have at least double if not triple the force in an assault to the defence. How did France allow a force 2/3rds it's size if not 1/2 to even continue besieging it in the 1st place? The French make mythos out the ludicrous things!
@petrpinc7695
@petrpinc7695 Жыл бұрын
"The blood on La Hire's sword is almost dry" - La Hire
@ttx3
@ttx3 Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤ AoE 2
@d26k164
@d26k164 Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine how many tens of thousands of kids had their history passion started by that game. Mine sure was
@ttx3
@ttx3 Жыл бұрын
@@d26k164 there were good old times. AoE did more to history education than the school itself. There were also epic powerful lines like this one of legendary La Hire ❤️
@nobodysanything2330
@nobodysanything2330 Жыл бұрын
I shall not doubt her again - Guy Josselon
@civ-fanboy2137
@civ-fanboy2137 Жыл бұрын
Them Brits can't make a castle stronger than La Hire.
@MrVlad12340
@MrVlad12340 Жыл бұрын
People often underestimate the sheer power of belief and faith, the morale. Joan may have not being an experienced officer but she was a symbol of faith and her reputation as a holy woman made french soldiers fight with zealous determination, and that kind of belief that makes men fight to the death, discarding fear and doubt - it can easily crush less motivated enemy. Its psychological warfare in itself, demoralising an enemy force while your own troops are at their highest. If often works wonders, even when situation is bleak.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 Жыл бұрын
Well a lot of pre-modern warfare was decided simply by who stayed on the battlefield the longest so morale had a huge importance, so convincing your soldiers that they have divine favor can be a key advantage. This also occasionally meant putting soldiers into positions where they couldn't retreat, like in the first crusade where the crusaders were so far from home that retreat simply wasn't possible.
@xenotypos
@xenotypos Жыл бұрын
Hi from Orleans. Seeing this map now, I'm amazed at how small the city was back then, probably around 1/25th of the current surface, not counting the urban area (3 times bigger). Even the historical center is vastly bigger. It's easy to recognize "what is what" with the islands, and that bridge toward the south is still there, except now it just connects to southern part of the city. I know it shouldn't be a surprise, but still.
@nice_toes_xx
@nice_toes_xx Жыл бұрын
I always forget how small most (Non Capital) cities were until the industrial revolution. It makes a lot more sense when you think about how they were able to withstand sieges without burning through supplies
@codyj9983
@codyj9983 Жыл бұрын
I Google Earthed Orleans to see what youre talking about. Pretty cool. I could be wrong but it kinda looks like you can still see the borders of the old city. Its all trees now where the walls may have been. Am I looking at this correctly?
@xenotypos
@xenotypos 11 ай бұрын
@@codyj9983 Actually, the trees follow a road (it's a succession of parks between the two sides of the road, it's pretty big) that encircle the historical center. But even that historical center as I said, is bigger than the medieval town you see in that video. It's more like "the historical center of the 19th century". It just shows how small the medieval town was, as were most medieval towns in Europe anyway. So no, afaik it's not the limits of the medieval town. To put into perspective, Orléans today is slightly bigger than Paris was during the middle ages (I mean during the 100 years war), and Paris was the biggest city in Europe. That being said, relatively speaking other cities in France grew way more than Orléans, it's just a middle sized city nowadays.
@deangajraj
@deangajraj Жыл бұрын
As a reminder that history is filled with remarkable individuals and events that continue to inspire and captivate us centuries later, the siege of Orléans and the story of Joan of Arc present a compelling narrative of courage, faith, and nation-building.
@AntipaladinPedigri
@AntipaladinPedigri 10 ай бұрын
*Peasant girl writes fanfiction of France's greatness* *frustrated with the lack of readers, does her damnest to make the fantasy real and canon*
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 9 ай бұрын
"Fine. I'll do it myself" moment.
@MegaBouzigue
@MegaBouzigue Жыл бұрын
"Of the love or hate of God for the English I know nothing, but I know for sure that they will all be expelled from this land, save for those that will perish here" Sainte Jeanne d'Arc ⚜
@Paveway-chan
@Paveway-chan Жыл бұрын
Joan had a plan, and this gets really deep into the weeds of siege warfare, but the idea was… ”Get ’em!”
@jacques3148
@jacques3148 Жыл бұрын
We moderns can be as sarcastic as we want about Joan of Arc's visions, but no one can read her answers at the Rouen trial (we still have the full manuscripts) without being deeply impressed. I am a history student at la Sorbonne and that's what a renowned Joan of Arc specialist (who used to be sarcastic about her as well) told us, after reading it as well I agree with him.
@NRProductionss
@NRProductionss Жыл бұрын
Any highlights in paticular?
@megathicc6367
@megathicc6367 Жыл бұрын
I think she was more crazy for being close with Gilles de Rais a serial killer of children. Although who knows if she knew or not.
@jamsheedsneed6257
@jamsheedsneed6257 Жыл бұрын
God's real, St. Jeanne d'Arc was sent by God. People discount her visions out of hand because they conflict with their world view. The way that this view permeates through academia is terrifying. Especially liberal Biblical academia, Bart Ehrman is the most preeminent scholar in liberal Biblical Academia yet is an idiot. He is just a prolific writer, his debates with the likes of Dr. Brant Pitre are truly awe-inspiring in how humans will perform the craziest mental gymnastics if they don't agree with the reality of the situation. Academia is dead.
@megathicc6367
@megathicc6367 Жыл бұрын
@@jamsheedsneed6257 god's real but she wasn't a prophet. To say so is to believe in a false idol and prophet.
@jacques3148
@jacques3148 Жыл бұрын
@@NRProductionss Well the main impressive thing is that her answers are really smart and learned, even if she was only an iliterate peasant girl. She also shows a remarkable strength of character, even if she's alone, miserable, and only a young girl. I strongly encourage you to read for yourself!
@trorisk
@trorisk Жыл бұрын
I lived in Orleans for 20 years. On May 8 throughout the France is celebrated the end of WW2. But in Orleans for almost 600 years on May 8 it is Joan of Arc. Joan of Arc was slowly recognized by the Church (beatified in 1909 and canonized in 1920) and the France. But Orleans celebrated its saint since 1431 or 1432. There is a real particularity of Joan of Arc for France but even more for Orleans.
@Docklead
@Docklead 11 ай бұрын
I imagine because they like being french and she’s the reason why they’re not speaking English
@Thraim.
@Thraim. Жыл бұрын
We get a staggering siege *and* a very mainstream topic at once? Truly, this is the video the algorithm has been waiting for.
@sapphyrus
@sapphyrus Жыл бұрын
It cannot be overstated how much odds were against Jeanne. A peasant girl was as disenfranchised as a person could be back then, nobody in power would even hand over more than a grocery stall to such a person, let alone an entire army with the task to lift a siege. She could first persuade the common folk, then nobility, then military commanders to work with her which is practically an unmatched feat. Even today in more progressive societies it would be a remarkable achievement. Then, on the side that after a string of catastrophes, battered and demoralized, she delivers her promise and practically turns the tide in way that sets the outcome of a decades long war. Let's set the divine intervention thoughts aside, you'd never bet for a peasant girl to achieve all this. Even gathering the help she needed was way beyond the means of any commoner back then.
@pyropulseIXXI
@pyropulseIXXI Жыл бұрын
It was easier to advance back then. A poor person can never lead forces in today's "progressive" age; it is literally impossible. They have to enter the system; everything is beaurocratic these days
@saffron5802
@saffron5802 Жыл бұрын
@@pyropulseIXXI Not sure where you live, but in my country you can start with the military and train to become a corporal after finishing college. From there, it's basically all about how talented you are and meeting your competencies, and you will be able to advance and become a lieutenant after enough years of active service. Back then, most poor people couldn't even hope to become anything more then a sergeant even after years of active campaigning. You generally had to be of noble blood, it was less about merit. A lot of France's nobility was wiped out at the Battle of Agincourt, that they had a shortage in leadership. The commoners had lost all hope in what was left of the nobility, and in their desperation they chose to rally behind one of their own.
@sapphyrus
@sapphyrus Жыл бұрын
@@pyropulseIXXI Any kind of advancement for women was non-existent then. The only way they'd have any say regarding a military matter would be if they were the eldest daughter of a king with no sons and inherit the throne as a queen regnant. Even a queen consort could have no input. The equivalent of a peasant girl in 15th century in the social ladder today would be a homeless, blind, deaf, geriatric, migrant woman.
@lukaswilhelm9290
@lukaswilhelm9290 Жыл бұрын
@@pyropulseIXXI its the other way around, back then mostly only nobility could lead army as norm for feudal society. Joan was an exception as she claim she was sent by God, even many nobility doubt her as they afraid she would kick start the whole meritocratic system again.
@DieNibelungenliad
@DieNibelungenliad Жыл бұрын
Uh peasants were common folk and they did handle grocery stalls which back then would be a food stall or crafts stall at a fair.
@Lapkonium
@Lapkonium Жыл бұрын
Wow the art style is even more beautiful than before
@stehfreejesseah7893
@stehfreejesseah7893 Жыл бұрын
I liked the older style.
@arminhergl5388
@arminhergl5388 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I like the new graphics
@WelcomeToDERPLAND
@WelcomeToDERPLAND Жыл бұрын
Absolutely a shame and crime against humanity what ended up happening to her.
@walideg5304
@walideg5304 Жыл бұрын
Yep. She was betrayed.
@MW_Asura
@MW_Asura Жыл бұрын
@@walideg5304 She wasn't betrayed
@WelcomeToDERPLAND
@WelcomeToDERPLAND Жыл бұрын
@@MW_Asura I suppose that depends if you count that sham trail the English & their church representatives put her through counted as a betrayal or not. "Guilty of Heresy" for the crime of wearing men's clothing... disgustingly she was abused & molested (and most likely worse) during her imprisonment, until the ultimate crime of her captors was carried out with an execution by being burned at the stake...
@michaelhawkins7389
@michaelhawkins7389 Жыл бұрын
@@MW_Asura she was
@RayB1656
@RayB1656 11 ай бұрын
@@MW_Asura She was betrayed ! Remember the entrapment set-up at Compiègne ! Remember Guillaume de Flavy ?
@Fryepod3628
@Fryepod3628 Жыл бұрын
My first watch of this channel, knowing a decent amount about this topic in general but never too in depth. This is wildly good. Liked. Subbed. Comment. Thank you!
@thcdreams654
@thcdreams654 Жыл бұрын
Stood up from my chair and I found myself stunned as I stumbled backwards. That is the staggering quality of your work. Thanks man.
@TitouFromMars
@TitouFromMars Жыл бұрын
Joan of Arc statistics : tactics: 0 morale boost: +100
@SuperChuckRaney
@SuperChuckRaney Жыл бұрын
+800 Endurence
@KaiHung-wv3ul
@KaiHung-wv3ul Жыл бұрын
Piety: +600000000 Jokes aside, the English conducted themselves honorably in this siege, they managed to keep up a siege for months despite plenty of bad luck(the commander dying early), and being outnumbered almost two to one when conventional wisdom would have stated that besiegers have to outnumber the besieged at least three to one.
@adheetsequeira9c415
@adheetsequeira9c415 Жыл бұрын
I comment rarely but ...... well I just wanted to say THANK YOU for your excellent productions. I owe all my knowledge of this subject to you and other KZbin channels. For a student like me who cannot afford to buy many books it is really a blessing to see ( and learn) unbiased true history. Please don't stop. Will become a patron whenever I can. Thank you. God bless you.
@andreweden9405
@andreweden9405 Жыл бұрын
The composer Guillaume Dufay (1397-1474) would've been entering the height of his musical career at this time. The composer Gilles Binchois (1400-1460) was not only a composer, but also a knight in the service of the Duke of Burgundy, and may well have been among the troops at this very siege! The music of both composers still survives, and much of it is absolutely stunningly beautiful!
@thewitherchannel1053
@thewitherchannel1053 Жыл бұрын
great video, you've come a long way since I started following. Your content and research have always been spot-on and informative
@MrLoobu
@MrLoobu Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how many top generals leading armies were killed by one errant cannon ball. I can think of 4 such instances off the top of my head.
@themagickalmagickman
@themagickalmagickman Жыл бұрын
He lived 8 days without much of his jaw and lower face? 7:18. Poor guy...
@farcydebop7982
@farcydebop7982 Жыл бұрын
In the Middle Ages, it would be like having a big cut. No big deal.
@j.k.6865
@j.k.6865 Жыл бұрын
Tis but a scratch
@zacharydurocher4085
@zacharydurocher4085 Жыл бұрын
No morphine too
@mnk9073
@mnk9073 Жыл бұрын
Challenge: Don't do a frontal charge against the English French knights and Scottish Infantry: *IMPOSSIBLE!
@GerardMenvussa
@GerardMenvussa Жыл бұрын
Ok guys, here's the strategy for today : "YOLO!"
@Casmaniac
@Casmaniac Жыл бұрын
Learning about military history in the middle ages often reads as a comedy of errors doesn't it lol
@Yellow-kp9gs
@Yellow-kp9gs Жыл бұрын
To be fair French knights and their Calvary charges were easily the best in the Hundred Years’ War (although there were quite a few stand out English successes) and even before this. I agree they were very arrogant and this caused defeats (nicopolis for example) but they weren’t idiots either.
@xenotypos
@xenotypos Жыл бұрын
@@Casmaniac It often comes from our misunderstanding of the actual situation at the time though. And it's the case most times we deem a past event as "stupid" tbh.
@xenotypos
@xenotypos Жыл бұрын
It worked very well just a few weeks after the siege of Orléans: the battle of Patay (in which the longbowmen were massacred by largely inferior numbers) is an example of how effective a quick/reckless charge from the cavalry, before the longbowmen could entrench themselves, was very effective. Timing was important.
@TheWildManEnkidu
@TheWildManEnkidu Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the graphics and artwork on this one. This channel just keeps getting better and better.
@thomaslacornette1282
@thomaslacornette1282 Жыл бұрын
There's good things in your video, the Burgundians leaving the siege is a big turning point that is not often speak of, i read a reason they leave also was cause Burgundians needed troops to occupy the recently acquiered county of Namur. English arrogance might have play a role and not all Burgundian lords were liking the English that much, few years later Burgundians will reconciliate with French and turn back against English. Robert de Baudricourt was not a fat ass lord but in fact quite a badass: he fought almost lonely on the march of France surrounded by hostile forces and lands at Vaucouleurs for ten years the Burgundians from Vergy House. Good point also to speak how Jeanne created a popular support even more people of Orleans enlisted in the milicia when she arrives, this adding of troops might have been a game changer.
@Yellow-kp9gs
@Yellow-kp9gs Жыл бұрын
Yeah the English should have worked harder to make a better alliance with the Burgundians. Would have made their rule more legitimate and stopped popular support for the french resurgence after Salisbury’s deaths.
@walideg5304
@walideg5304 Жыл бұрын
The Burgundian nobles were disgusted by the English behaviour during the Battles of Azincourt where noble prisoners were massacred against all the rules of the Chevalerie. They never liked them.
@thomaslacornette1282
@thomaslacornette1282 Жыл бұрын
@@walideg5304 Yes!!! Jean de Villiers de L'Isle-Adam even talked very bad to John of Lancaster in an encounter at Paris. He was at the siege of Harfleur and at the battle of Azincourt (on the french side indeed), one exemple among many others.
@GarfieldRex
@GarfieldRex Жыл бұрын
Loved Joan's image drawing here, beautiful art⚜️
@JosephZepeda
@JosephZepeda Жыл бұрын
Nearly perfect post timing seeing as today is the Feast of St Joan of Arc
@Vamooso
@Vamooso Жыл бұрын
One of the KZbinrs I get excited to watch, every time!
@leagueoflags
@leagueoflags Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, excellent storytelling. Excellent as always.
@scottanno8861
@scottanno8861 Жыл бұрын
I love the silent film Joan of Arc. Really well done from the 1920s
@user-ij5yz9xt8w
@user-ij5yz9xt8w Жыл бұрын
Could you make a video about the horrors and aftermath of battles? Such as the experiences of French surgeon Ambroise Pare who served four French kings and was a leading pioneer in surgical techniques and battlefield medicine.
@victorkrawchuk9141
@victorkrawchuk9141 Жыл бұрын
After the failure at Orleans, the English, after being joined by Fastolf's force, retreated north towards Paris. They were chased by the French and a pitched battle ensued near the village of Patay. The English were defeated, lost 2,000 killed out of 5,000 men, and Fastolf was the only senior commander who was not killed or captured by the French. Fastolf was a skilled and often ruthless commander who, very unusually for the day, had risen to his high rank from a very lowly position. Having already attracted a great deal of jealousy from his much more privileged peers, he was relentlessly ridiculed after Patay for being decisively defeated in battle by a woman (Joan). His reputation never recovered, and his disgraced character lives on to this day as the buffoon Falstaff, made immortal by Shakespeare's play and Verdi's opera.
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comprehensive and interesting comment. I might add that Fastolf was apparently cleared of any wrongdoing at the Battle of Patay by an enquiry conducted by the Order of the Garter, but his reputation was forever tarnished. Good day to you!
@benjaminloyd6056
@benjaminloyd6056 Жыл бұрын
The Battle of Patay showed that the French cavalry charge could be devastating vs unprepared positions. The English Longbow corps would never recover fully.
@kipferlkipferl
@kipferlkipferl Жыл бұрын
The blood on La Hire's sword is almost dry!
@harleydavidson1014
@harleydavidson1014 Жыл бұрын
I love your channel. Keep the videos coming.
@MaHuD_
@MaHuD_ Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video!
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 Жыл бұрын
It's remarkable. The people of Orleans in their most desperate moment were more willing to surrender to the Burgundians rather than the English. But it does show how they felt about the English.
@BryanLikesCandy
@BryanLikesCandy Жыл бұрын
Continent before Island pretenders!
@xenotypos
@xenotypos Жыл бұрын
Not really, it's just that the Burgundians were French too, the duke was even closely related to the royal family actually. They also weren't seen as illegimate, they were one of two parties (with the Armagnacs) that fought for legitimity and power in France, for a long time, before that mess happened. The killing of John, the former duke of Burgundy, by the Armagnac prince, actually shocked a lot of French.
@lc1138
@lc1138 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video ! Very instructive and with enough context so I understand better the picture of this first 'act' in the Jeanne d'Arc saga. Although, I must point out I heard she was not exactly a simple peasant girl. Like, her father was a rich farmer or something. I heard this on a french radio broadcast, from a specialist historian, but I'm unable to remember when or who. I encourage you to dig the topic if you wish so ! It's good to clarify myths :)
@ryneboy3845
@ryneboy3845 Жыл бұрын
I’d been missing the siege coverage. Great work
@Jesse_Dawg
@Jesse_Dawg Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. Please more!
@agalie7139
@agalie7139 Жыл бұрын
Before Joan the 100 years war was considered to be a dynastic struggle but she ( or the propaganda) stated that it was a nation battle and with the help of the faith and superstitions made the french population to acknowledge Charles as king of France and France as their country given by God.
@antoinemozart243
@antoinemozart243 11 ай бұрын
The English are not better. Their motto : Dieu et mon droit.
@sarahsidney1988
@sarahsidney1988 Жыл бұрын
Great topic and nice animations
@sintenal4078
@sintenal4078 Жыл бұрын
“Wow, that looks really interesting!” - Me, talking to myself upon seeing the notification for this video. Just love your content, thank you for such devotion and effort.
@manonanisland88
@manonanisland88 Жыл бұрын
Another amazing video. Great work!
@TheSergentChaotix
@TheSergentChaotix Жыл бұрын
Can't believe the comment section, between british who can't bear a video about a defeat, people who can't bear a video about a fighting woman (although not exactly fighting, she did go to the frontline and rode agead of the army to inspure her troops) and people who can't understand the impact of "moral strenght", this must be discouraging for the creator !
@Dayvit78
@Dayvit78 Жыл бұрын
I did not expect it either! Usually Sandrhoman's comment section is just fun.
@Thouhand.
@Thouhand. Жыл бұрын
Why would he be upset? The more people that show up to argue and put views on his video, the more money he gets.
@Ayeshteni
@Ayeshteni Жыл бұрын
Please don't lump us with the English. The Scots fought on the side of the French.
@cyfertea8707
@cyfertea8707 Жыл бұрын
(reposted) like the other people stated, Joan was given a quick course in warfare. Also she has advisors who follows her everywhere to tell her everything she needs to know. I never actually saw Joan as a good commander, however I saw her as an excellent leader. She's faithful but knows how to handle the people around, knows how to give them hope and courage. I think being a peasant is what helped Joan connect to her soldiers more than any nobles can. Joan knows how hard it is to be a peasant, she understood their daily struggles and can relate to them, so she knew how to talk to them, how to encourage them, she's connected to them, she can relate and sympathize with them because she knew how they live and the struggle of being a peasant. She's unlike some kings who became distant to their own troops because they simply don't know how a peasant lives nor do they even care, but Joan cares. What is cool about Joan is being seen as holy never made her distant, she never saw herself above and beyond her own men, she fought along side them even if she has no idea how to fight, even if it means just raising a banner or trying to climb the walls during a siege, she'll do anything she can to help. This inspired everyone around her because she's being a great example to look up to and follow, she's leading by example even if it means it'll kill her (she almost died because she was climbing a wall during a siege even tho it's against her advisors' advice). She's not a good soldier like other shows and movies shows, nor is she a brilliant commander or strategist, but I think she shines in terms of leadership and example. I think it is why people are willing to follow her instead of the church, she actually stands by her own words even if it'll kill her unlike some priests and the church during her time. If she promises you something, you can be damn sure she'll keep her word even if it means her own death.
@LordSesshaku
@LordSesshaku Жыл бұрын
I actually do think she was a good commander, she had the instincs of what would be later be known as "napoleonic warfare". She didn't wait. She was fast. Determinated. March quickly, march separately, fight concentrated, take them by surprise, town by town, never presenting "a conventional battle" unless she could win it. What she did in Orleans was not that different from Napoleon earning his soldiers loyalty by leading the suicidal charge at the battle of Arcole. She was clearly not military trained, but she had the instincts of what could be considered proto-modern warfare.
@user-cg2tw8pw7j
@user-cg2tw8pw7j Жыл бұрын
​@@LordSesshaku no
@RayB1656
@RayB1656 Жыл бұрын
@@LordSesshaku ... .... '' she was cleary not military trained ...'' She was ! Who was Jehanne la Pucelle best friend ?? Who wrote the best book about Medieval Warfare and weapons during that era ?? It was René d'Anjou, the son of Yolande d'Anjou. What a coincidence, another Anjouj ! Jehanne la Pucelle was ''running a lance'' at the Court of the Duke of Lorraine, in 1428 ; where she learned ''Jousting '' ? Jehanne had 12 horses at the Court of Charles VII, many Medieval War horses which young aristocratic men took on average, 5 to 7 years to train on a Medieval War horses ... using mostly your legs to control the horse during an ugly Medieval war battlefield. Jehanne la Pucelle arrested Franquet d'Arras , infamous pirate and all his men from the Loire Valley . Franquet d'Arras literally lost his head , when she released him to the Civil authority.
@LordSesshaku
@LordSesshaku Жыл бұрын
@@user-cg2tw8pw7j "yes" That was the impression I got after reading books about the whole military campaign Joan did.
@user-cg2tw8pw7j
@user-cg2tw8pw7j Жыл бұрын
@@LordSesshaku My brother, she did not lead the armies, but was just a mascot for the French armies
@54032Zepol
@54032Zepol Жыл бұрын
Very cool video 😎 keep up the great content!
@auperion
@auperion Жыл бұрын
Good stuff as always!
@plasticbazooka
@plasticbazooka Жыл бұрын
"Charge closer, I wanna hit them with my standard!" -Joan, probably.
@bethwilliams4903
@bethwilliams4903 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a host who can actually pronounce the French names properly! Too often narrators on historical documentaries, no matter how well done or researched, are mangled by individuals who cannot speak even a passing French, it mars their entire effort. More could have been said of Jeanne La Pucelle’s extraordinary companions, Dunois, La Hire, Xaintrailles, et al and certainly more about her trial, maybe in another podcast!
@chourtout
@chourtout Жыл бұрын
Hmm not really actually
@bethwilliams4903
@bethwilliams4903 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t recommend the (almost) 5 volume Jonathan Sumption series on the Hundred Years War for you but there are a couple specific books that highlight aspects of the French Wars leading to the generation that produced Jeanne and her companions - such as Kenneth Fowler’s extraordinary vol.1 on the Mercenaries (he sadly never completed vol.2 which would have continued the discussion of the free companies, routiers, beyond 1370) who ravaged France, includes all comers, English, French, German, Italian, etc, and then bookend it with Bronislaw Geremek’s Margin’s of Society in Late Medieval Paris, which is about the mind numbing cost of those hideous wars with Edward III and the Lancastrian Henry V and his brothers - Jeanne did not emerge unexpectedly from a cloud, even her infamous oath, about the ‘goddams’ was not hers but a generations old inherited word among the French for whom if nothing else they heard that from Englishmen! It is also worth knowing more about her companions because many, like the virtuous d’Alencon was, over time, to prove the better man than the Bastard of Orleans, Dunois, (later ‘legitimized’) and who would turn on d’Alencon for his own entirely opportunistic and political reasons. Jeanne, in retrospect, seems closest to Xaintrailles and La Hire, in their desire not to mix messages. Purity of purpose, in any age, is hard to achieve.
@monkmichael-munkmiikael-hy7842
@monkmichael-munkmiikael-hy7842 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video. It was especially helpful that you put in all the maps and showed the movements of the battle. Thank you!
@eliascaals1826
@eliascaals1826 Жыл бұрын
really liked this video!
@thecolonelpridereview
@thecolonelpridereview Жыл бұрын
Nice video, much love from England for our most treasured and noble rivals!
@rolandhanson7678
@rolandhanson7678 Жыл бұрын
One of the most inspiring people in history
@user-cg2tw8pw7j
@user-cg2tw8pw7j Жыл бұрын
no
@alexandertaylor1225
@alexandertaylor1225 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video thank you.
@ExperiencePlayers
@ExperiencePlayers Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@maxthepaladin2147
@maxthepaladin2147 Жыл бұрын
Damn, Joan really was driven
@drillsargentadog
@drillsargentadog Жыл бұрын
St. Jean d'Arc, pray for us!
@oriffel
@oriffel Жыл бұрын
amazing work guys
@keanuortiz3766
@keanuortiz3766 Жыл бұрын
Ah I remember this AoE2 mission
@jeromebarry1741
@jeromebarry1741 Жыл бұрын
Mark Twain's "Joan of Arc" is an excellent read. I once had an American History teacher in college assign us to do a book report on any Mark Twain book. She didn't even know about that one.
@rafaelrmaier
@rafaelrmaier Жыл бұрын
@11:22 I would argue, albeit without evidence, that the defenders plan actually bore some fruit. It definitely looks like'the bastard of Orleans' played the English and Burgundian against each other by offering (half) the city to the burgundians
@frankkobold
@frankkobold Жыл бұрын
Which would make him a damn good diplomat
@jamesdemellow1016
@jamesdemellow1016 Жыл бұрын
A huge element of why Joan was abandoned by Charles VII is that she failed in her campaign against Paris. Her propaganda value decreased significantly after the failed assault on Paris, this sidelining her role afterwards and being eventually captured by the Burgundians. A holy leader whose visions of military victories no longer come true is of no significant use. But a martyr still has propaganda use. I read smthn by Burne which even mentioned that the French attempted to replicate the propaganda success of Joan by claiming another peasant was also guided by divine visions from god after joans death.
@RayB1656
@RayB1656 Жыл бұрын
Jehanne la Pucelle was ''abandoned'' by Charles VII, because his advisors , Regnault de Chartres and George de la Trémoille advised Charles to seek a truce with the Burgundian-English Alliance, avoiding then a direct engagement with the English troops. Losing the army, meant for Charles VII a certain escape towards Scotland or Spain. It was probably wiser to wait and fight the English troops another day ! Jehanne la Pucelle wanted to take Paris by force ! She was left with only a few hundred men, as Charles departed for the Loire Valley with most of the army. And, she was seriously wounded at the walls of Paris and failed her 3rd mission! ( she had ''4 missions'' ). She ''disappeared'' for a many weeks and it is said, she was sent to the ''Maison de Braine'' ! All the first authors from the late15th and the16th century mentioned that this was only a political story, a nasty struggle between two royal families ! Yolande d'Anjou (including the Armagnacs) , was the mastermind behind all these events.
@x3kj705
@x3kj705 Жыл бұрын
another great video, thank you
@jamiegreen4758
@jamiegreen4758 11 ай бұрын
Love this channel 👌. Ty another good video
@mikedangerdoes
@mikedangerdoes Жыл бұрын
What a stroke of fortune. I had recently just been thinking about Joan of Arc and was meaning to look her up.
@hititmanify
@hititmanify Жыл бұрын
same!
@petrapetrakoliou8979
@petrapetrakoliou8979 Жыл бұрын
I think you are forgetting that John of Burgundy had Charles d'Orleans assassinated in Paris, so his own assassination was only a revenge from the followers of Charles. This is a very sensitive question in the period, but facts are that the first to strike in this feud with a really gruesome rutheless murder was the duke of Burgundy...
@petrapetrakoliou8979
@petrapetrakoliou8979 Жыл бұрын
I meant Louis of Orleans, not Charles... (he was the king Charles VI's own brother, John of Burgundy, his assassin was his cousin).
@petrapetrakoliou8979
@petrapetrakoliou8979 Жыл бұрын
I mean, you are presenting John of Burgungy as the poor guy walking into a trap, while everybody knew and he himself was proud of the murder of Louis d'Orleans.
@WhatIsSanity
@WhatIsSanity Жыл бұрын
@@petrapetrakoliou8979 Good to know.
@TheOnyxFoxReturns
@TheOnyxFoxReturns 7 ай бұрын
This makes me hope there's a review on the siege of Derry. It's the only remaining walled city in Ireland and saw many sieges, while also being able to repel them.
@korosuke1788
@korosuke1788 Жыл бұрын
Imagine doing everything you could for your country and be awarded the title "the bastard". Tough times.
@BryanLikesCandy
@BryanLikesCandy Жыл бұрын
Bastard ain't that bad. Just ask Bill from Normandy.
@frankkobold
@frankkobold Жыл бұрын
I think, in the past "bastard" had a different meaning. Less an insult, if then more a "buh, no child of a Christian marriage!" for the common people, and for the nobility the focus would be on "no right to inherit, but eh, extremely common"
@yulusleonard985
@yulusleonard985 Жыл бұрын
Lol in middle ages it means you need to visit the pope to be upgraded into proper family member.
@Ayeshteni
@Ayeshteni Жыл бұрын
Same as it is today, yer maw got pounded over the bins behind the pub before she was married. Or with the Pool boy after she was married, either or.
@kolerick
@kolerick 11 ай бұрын
France in civil war, financial ruin and generally on the back foot Jeanne d'Arc and Napoleon: "we like those odds..."
@FrankoMakurian
@FrankoMakurian Жыл бұрын
"Of course God love the Englishmen too but he prefers when they stay in England"
@Jose-gc8rl
@Jose-gc8rl Жыл бұрын
Then God doesn't love them
@kmitchell9891
@kmitchell9891 Жыл бұрын
Laughs in agincourt
@breakerdawn8429
@breakerdawn8429 Жыл бұрын
God change side when the English King died cause he was very religious and a pious man.
@Homme-chauve-souris
@Homme-chauve-souris Жыл бұрын
@@kmitchell9891 Laughs in Patay
@kmitchell9891
@kmitchell9891 Жыл бұрын
@@Homme-chauve-souris laughs in waterloo
@Malik_Sylvus
@Malik_Sylvus 11 ай бұрын
Despite what the books said, this wasn't a war between France and England, this was a war between French kings of England, and their cousins kings of France about a disputed land in France. It was a war between the royal houses of Valois, Anjou and Normandie.
@cantbanme8971
@cantbanme8971 10 ай бұрын
Does this even need to be stated? It's true of pretty much any war in the middle ages, the concept of nation states as we understand them today was very different.
@mykomatos5445
@mykomatos5445 9 ай бұрын
Though the distinction existed to the common folk and Jeanne was a hero to them first
@Wasserkaktus
@Wasserkaktus 8 ай бұрын
No, by this point Henry V and all future English monarchs spoke English as their first language and were far more culturally English than French/Norman. Henry V spoke French (most of the English upper class was expected to know French), but if you knew the history of Henry V and his own tenuous grasp on the English throne, it's obvious that Henry firmly saw himself as an English king trying to seize the Crown of France.
@Wasserkaktus
@Wasserkaktus 8 ай бұрын
​@@cantbanme8971Cultural distinctions of both monarchs, nobles and commoners were well known by this point. You are correct that Nationalism didn't really exist until the 19th Century, and states were far more organized then compared to the Middle Ages, but people were still very cognizant of cultural differences between themselves and outsiders.
@Malik_Sylvus
@Malik_Sylvus 8 ай бұрын
@@Wasserkaktus you are reading history with modern nationalist eyes, Henry V was king of England, and even if 300 years after the conquest, the normand/engevin kings and lords of England became naturally english speakers, they didn't forget from where they came, in their feodal beliefs and thoughts They remained closely linked to their strongholds in France. They were always linked to their feudal lands of the Normand/Angevin house in France. So the 100 hundred year war wasn't a war between 2 nations (english vs french), it was a feudal war about enhiritance of lands and crown between 2 kings who were cousins. King Henry claimed to be the heir of the Valois house who ruled France, that's all. This war shaped the national spirit that replaced feudal spirit.
@Miamcoline
@Miamcoline Жыл бұрын
Great stuff as always!
@sdtamarinera
@sdtamarinera Жыл бұрын
Alas a channel with courage to make videos about Joan of Arc victories
@luis.m.yrisson
@luis.m.yrisson Жыл бұрын
And 600 years later the Anglos are still seething...
@kmitchell9891
@kmitchell9891 Жыл бұрын
Laughs in waterloo
@qsds9586
@qsds9586 Жыл бұрын
@@kmitchell9891 Thanks to the prussian
@kmitchell9891
@kmitchell9891 Жыл бұрын
@@qsds9586 laughs harder
@vinz4066
@vinz4066 Жыл бұрын
​@@kmitchell9891 Proving His Point I see
@kmitchell9891
@kmitchell9891 Жыл бұрын
@@vinz4066 thanks for speaking english
@user-dt7py6oo1t
@user-dt7py6oo1t Жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan thank you
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this excellent video! 👏
@Hendur
@Hendur 11 ай бұрын
Bro what is going on with these comments, some truly crazy people watch these vids :x Well anyways, I always thought Jean D'arc was a truly fascinating charakter of history, thank you for the well made video
@wiktorberski9272
@wiktorberski9272 Жыл бұрын
Good job
@superlegomaster55
@superlegomaster55 Жыл бұрын
SandRhoman ❤❤❤ love your vidoes!
@dubbyx8490
@dubbyx8490 Жыл бұрын
If you played through the Siege of Orleans in AOE II, you're a freakin' legend.
@BadNeighbor93
@BadNeighbor93 Жыл бұрын
"Ahhh La Hire´s SWOrd is almost dryy" - La Hire 1420´s
@yourfellowhumanbeing2323
@yourfellowhumanbeing2323 Жыл бұрын
fellow aoe fan
@KaylDunnyan
@KaylDunnyan Жыл бұрын
“La Hire wishes to kill sumsing!”
@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot
@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot Жыл бұрын
I love Age of empires 2.
@krzemo644
@krzemo644 Жыл бұрын
"Ze blood on La Hire sword iz almozt dry"
@peterpatota5026
@peterpatota5026 Жыл бұрын
i scrolled down until i found an aoe2 la hire comment
@socratrash
@socratrash Жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@removedquasar650
@removedquasar650 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Make a secod part please! Patay, Paris and Compiègne!
@tomassup8309
@tomassup8309 Жыл бұрын
"Jeanne d'Arc, priez pour nous!"
@GarfieldRex
@GarfieldRex Жыл бұрын
A beautiful chance to recommend the movie of 1999: The Messenger: The story of Joan of Arc. Starrting Milla Jovovich 👌👌👌 best medieval warfare movie for me, and best Joan of Arc movie as well
@ttx3
@ttx3 Жыл бұрын
yes, Milla was perfect for the role❤
@WhatIsSanity
@WhatIsSanity Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. An extremely salty comment section though. Engagement is engagement for the algo, but people are really embarrassing themselves out here.
@ZenexTheZealous
@ZenexTheZealous Жыл бұрын
Saint Joan of Arc, pray for us!!! ✝️❤️‍🔥👑⚜️
@user-cg2tw8pw7j
@user-cg2tw8pw7j Жыл бұрын
Jesus: Sorry, she's not wearing a headscarf
@Frenchylikeshikes
@Frenchylikeshikes Жыл бұрын
La Hire, Du Guesclins, Jeanne d'Arc... these guys are just legends.
@Holybatman3603
@Holybatman3603 Жыл бұрын
17-18th century French military leaders were also very great: De Villars, Condé, Turenne, Vendôme, the Duke of Luxemburg and many others of equal prowess.
@Eric-ng2ed
@Eric-ng2ed Жыл бұрын
does anyone know where the picture or painting at 8:08 is from?
@kingofcards9516
@kingofcards9516 Жыл бұрын
God bless Joan.
@bomaniigloo
@bomaniigloo 5 ай бұрын
Its still super crazy how a teenage girl could "identify weak spots" in the enemy line.
@user-it3gp4vm1z
@user-it3gp4vm1z 4 ай бұрын
Its not that hard, see tired soldiers? See disorganized soldiers? See less equipped soldiers? Thats the weak spot
@informitas0117
@informitas0117 2 ай бұрын
It's said us schizophrenics has powers some would call unnatural. Jokes aside, she did a good job.
@RayB1656
@RayB1656 13 күн бұрын
First, she was not a ''teenage girl'', she was a woman. We always have this illogical statement that Jehanne was a poor, lonely, peasant girl without any education and suddenly in about 2 months, she is the leader of the French army !! Not really possible in the real world. (it took on average 5 to 7 years for young aristocratic men to master and control a Medieval War horse, with a 30 kilo armor, steel chest plate, steel helmet and weapons handling ! Jehanne was well-known before she left for ''France'' in early February 1429. She was invited in 1428, by the Duke of Lorraine, Charles II and his wife, Margarete von der Pfalz to help with his illness. Most importantly , she also met René d'Anjou, who would become the new Duke of Lorraine ! Who was René d'Anjou , son of Yolande d'Anjou, Yolande being the mastermind behind this story ... René was a expert in Medieval warfare and chivalry, he even produced a most beautiful book about Chivalry later in his life ! Also, the thousand and thousand of Scottish troops on French soil knew the English, they had brought different war tactics and using the longbow !
@bomaniigloo
@bomaniigloo 13 күн бұрын
@@RayB1656 you have any sources on that besides Chat GPT?
@bomaniigloo
@bomaniigloo 13 күн бұрын
@@user-it3gp4vm1z lol. I love armchair general salt so much.
@vender68
@vender68 Жыл бұрын
if you came for the title skip to 15:00
Жыл бұрын
If you give any man hope and a just or divine reason to fight, you can turn him into a fearsome warrior with almost suicidal combat morale. It is what Joan of Arc achieved, changing the course of a war that seemed almost lost for France, she is admirable as a historical figure and perhaps also as a saint. Religion has an abysmal power in people, something that is difficult to understand if you don't know what it's like to have faith; other examples of this can be clearly seen in the battles of Muhammad, the First Crusade and the Miracle of Empel, to name a few (if you have God on your side, there is nothing enemies can do against you).
@lukaswilhelm9290
@lukaswilhelm9290 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but Joan only relied on fanaticism, if you believe you doing God's works then you should also be reasonable. Prophet Muhammad lost the battle of Uhud because his archers left the high ground for supplies left by Meccan Quraish which proves to be disasterous, Muhammad even lost one of his teeth during chaotic Quraish counter attack lead by none other than the future sword of Allah Khalid ibn al Walid.
Жыл бұрын
@@lukaswilhelm9290 I do not understand your comment, it seems as if you were justifying Islam over Christianity, it cannot be that one is fanaticism, while the other is reasonable and more talking about a defeat. For me both are the same, in matters of morality due to religious empowerment, reason and fanaticism are mixed, because otherwise a good result would not be possible.
@hititmanify
@hititmanify Жыл бұрын
since when does a man need to fight for god? does god need knights to spread his gospel? does he need humans or do we need him? what happened to the other cheek? if u get conquerered dont fight, give in, even take their religion but keep ur faith in ur heart.
@JoaoVitor-wp9zg
@JoaoVitor-wp9zg Жыл бұрын
@@hititmanify Least heretic modernist.
@MrSinclairn
@MrSinclairn Жыл бұрын
Sir John Fastolf,the prototypical inspiration for Shakespeare's 'Falstaff' ! 😁 P.S. When Joan of Arc entered Orleans,she was escorted by an Clan Oglivy member of the newly-raised Garde Ecossais.
@poseidon6666
@poseidon6666 Жыл бұрын
watching it with a view on the Loire and the Tourelles, maybe the only time I'll be able to réate to a history video by looking at my window.
@schweinehund3497
@schweinehund3497 Жыл бұрын
Ich liebe deinen Kanal! Eine weitere sehr interessante Belagerung ist die von Syracusae auf Sizilien während dem Pelepponesischen Krieg. Nur ein kleiner Tipp.
@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55
@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55 Жыл бұрын
Didn't he do that one already?
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz Жыл бұрын
A true miracle no doubt, just as somehow boulevard meaning bulwark, something that distracted me all the time through the video but it's apparently correct, even if we now use that word only for avenues, a totally unrelated thing it seems to me.
@mrcopycat2355
@mrcopycat2355 Жыл бұрын
Ikr, when I heard they built boulevards I was wondering how a beautiful walk would thwart a siege
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz Жыл бұрын
@@mrcopycat2355 - I thought he was mispronouncing "bulwark"... until I realized that I know enough French to scratch my head on the subject and notice that it doesn't seem to derive from a tree name like, say Spanish "alameda" nor from a common Latin verb like "avenue" (something like "coming" or "come-er").
@Grafzahl25
@Grafzahl25 Жыл бұрын
I just like before watching because it's always good😂
@mortache
@mortache Жыл бұрын
The blood on La Hire's sword is almost dry
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