The Star That Can't Make Layups

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Daniel Li

Daniel Li

Күн бұрын

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@toyin71
@toyin71 Ай бұрын
I think one of the biggest things that you might of missed is that Tatum looks down almost every time he drives. It's much harder to control your body or gauge how far you are from the basket if you only look up at the last second. Partly why he can still finish if there's no big man there
@jjking8577
@jjking8577 Ай бұрын
Facts facts
@monsoon1234567890
@monsoon1234567890 Ай бұрын
Doesn't matter how talented you are, if you are looking directly down for 2+ dribbles, there's no way you can fully grasp where everyone is when you look back up. Even his drive and kick assists are always to a stationary teammate, because he can't see where a cutter is by the time he looks up.
@J-Hue
@J-Hue Ай бұрын
He ignores a ton of easier mid range jumpers doing that, too. It's why he shoots so poorly in the Finals. He forces 3's or contested layups too much when he has much easier 10-15ft jumpers available.
@kevinavila9489
@kevinavila9489 Ай бұрын
The Clyde Drexler special
@LeGoat-23
@LeGoat-23 Ай бұрын
@@J-Hue He forces a lot of pull up jumpers instead of driving to the basket his 2nd year was the worst of all because he kept settling for mid range even when he had a driving lane. Y'all mfs just say anything without watching Tatum.
@philiph616
@philiph616 Ай бұрын
Yeah I remember in the finals vs Golden State it seemed like he was missing a bunch of bunnies. The knock on him has always been if you contest at the rim or give contact, then he’ll have trouble finishing which is kinda funny cause one of his first big moments in the playoffs was that dunk vs the cavs
@LeKy-yd2zj
@LeKy-yd2zj Ай бұрын
and his layup buzzer-beater against the nets
@VENGEFULHEXX
@VENGEFULHEXX 29 күн бұрын
Dunk versus the Cavs? You mean the absolute poster on LBJ head? He baptized that man. Calling it a "dunk" is an understatement.
@youtubewatcher4955
@youtubewatcher4955 29 күн бұрын
That’s why he dunked it if it was a layup he woulda missed 😂
@AngelHerrera-zl6yw
@AngelHerrera-zl6yw 28 күн бұрын
@@VENGEFULHEXXfound the Tatum groupie
@VENGEFULHEXX
@VENGEFULHEXX 28 күн бұрын
@@AngelHerrera-zl6yw lol I think Tatum is inconsistent af. Sorry I told the truth and you didn't like it though sweetheart. 😘
@bigk1555
@bigk1555 Ай бұрын
Also I think Tatum doesn’t like contact too so he shys away from it. Which is why he also tries to lay the ball away from the rim.
@noname-ed2un
@noname-ed2un Ай бұрын
Nah Tatum actually loves contact. If you watch all of his games, you'll see he always drives and use contact to create space. Tatum is actually a strong player
@bigk1555
@bigk1555 Ай бұрын
@@noname-ed2un he only does that with shorty player if you put a big body on him. He shys away hence why he takes alot of tough threes and has a hard time making layups on bigger opponents
@lapdance2122
@lapdance2122 Ай бұрын
@@noname-ed2un i think what he meant is that Tatum doesnt like contact mid-air
@roamsongfn2629
@roamsongfn2629 Ай бұрын
i hate tatum , i despise tatum, but i don’t know how u could say he shys away from contract😂 that boy love contract
@noname-ed2un
@noname-ed2un Ай бұрын
@@bigk1555 nah. Tatum actually goes for contact even with bigger players. Remember there aren't many players in the NBA that have the size and mass of Tatum.
@enegue1101
@enegue1101 Ай бұрын
Truly diabolical behavior to post this now of all times.
@sapperEvO
@sapperEvO Ай бұрын
Truth hurts lol. Everyone furious that Tatum is on the bench but, I already think Ant is better than Tatum and there's no way Tatum plays over KD. His movement and patterns is so linear and robotic. He doesn't bump when he drives in as if he's afraid of contact.
@chidubemaladi8197
@chidubemaladi8197 Ай бұрын
they know exactly what they’re doing
@Jay-tx2wz
@Jay-tx2wz Ай бұрын
What do u think he should do to fix the problems he showed in the video?
@Jeter112
@Jeter112 29 күн бұрын
As a Sixers fan I’m loving it 😂
@DeLGhXst
@DeLGhXst 29 күн бұрын
@@Jeter112 keep loving it when he keeps sending Philly home
@user-nu7on8ob4m
@user-nu7on8ob4m Ай бұрын
This has been an issue for Tatum for a while. He has a tendency to jump forward, but not up, so he lacks elevation over defenders. Look at Jaylen Brown for contrast, who knows how to power up HIGH, not lunge forward.
@colinmccarthy8764
@colinmccarthy8764 Ай бұрын
JT shot 71.1% in the restricted area this past season, JB was at 75% on fewer attempts. There layup fg% is 58% to 60% in the favor of JB. JT is lower, but 71% and 58% is still pretty good for anybody. Am I missing something here?
@user-nu7on8ob4m
@user-nu7on8ob4m Ай бұрын
@@colinmccarthy8764 A point?
@xoirvinn
@xoirvinn Ай бұрын
@@colinmccarthy8764well this video was about the “drive and layup”. Not overall field goal percentages.
@Watermelon_Man
@Watermelon_Man 27 күн бұрын
@@xoirvinn “driving layup”
@Watermelon_Man
@Watermelon_Man 27 күн бұрын
@@colinmccarthy8764 raw percentages don’t filter out open attempts at that range (Also, regular season stats are artificially inflated by going against worse competition. When you filter out weak competition games and focus more on the process over the result, you will realize that he has a fundamental issue even if he’s not necessarily “bad” at it anymore.)
@kevinthekiwi2130
@kevinthekiwi2130 Ай бұрын
comparatively jaylen brown consistently gets incredible rim finishes and goes through defenders on the drive using his physicality well. brown has even improved his left hand finishing and driving this season too, well deserved FMVP
@kristopherchuckceniza7415
@kristopherchuckceniza7415 Ай бұрын
Pointing this out is going to be great for Tatum's career. I remember when Klay couldn't make layups, we called his missed attempts Klay Ups. He got better, became a cutting threat, and unfortunately tore his ACL. I remember the knock on Jaylen Brown being a one-handed player. Last season he's shown better control with his left hand, and that led to him becoming the finals MVP. I remember Kobe said that KD was easy to guard because his shot started from across his face. He got that fixed and became one of the most prolific scoring threats ever. Lonzo had the same problem, fixed it, and shot an elite percentage from three. I hope more people see this and start calling out Tatum so he can get to work on fixing this issue.
@Plague_Doc22
@Plague_Doc22 Ай бұрын
He's one of those players who lack finesse when finishing. Russ has this issue too, similar to why his shooting is so bad. Russ lacks the ability to slow himself down when going up.
@Paulie_Geelie
@Paulie_Geelie Ай бұрын
100%. Fierce attacking the rim, creates a ton of pressure, but they can't deliver the package.
@Paulie_Geelie
@Paulie_Geelie Ай бұрын
It's always frustrated me watching Tatum, because he could easily 30 on like 50% shooting if he could just finish better
@eciohc75
@eciohc75 Ай бұрын
True. Similar issue.
@devvv4616
@devvv4616 Ай бұрын
Tatum actually has a pretty smooth driving game. Smooth eurosteps and spin moves gets him to the rim easily. But he cant finish. That's also why he's so effective with his drive and kick game with the Celtics. He can collapse the offense cos he gets to the rim easily, then kicks it out so he doesn't have to finish in traffic and waste the possession
@Plague_Doc22
@Plague_Doc22 Ай бұрын
@@Paulie_Geelie He needs the ability to slow himself down for like 0.5 seconds before releasing the ball.
@NeonLeonNoel
@NeonLeonNoel Ай бұрын
He's like a long lanky guy who powers through with speed, and it looks like his form suffers because of it. Like he carries a lot of body momentum because he drives fast rather than using his weight and power to bully his way through, but it kinda just looks like he chucks it up rather than having a sense of control with his layup.
@Jay-tx2wz
@Jay-tx2wz Ай бұрын
What do u think he should do to fix the problems he showed in the video
@treasureojo5583
@treasureojo5583 29 күн бұрын
@Jay-tx2wz He should know when to slow down and get better footwork he oversteps a lot
@bori350
@bori350 29 күн бұрын
It's actually pretty interesting when you think about Lebron cause even though he is bigger and was probably faster than Tatum in his prime he is very effective in the paint
@KC-lg8qf
@KC-lg8qf 28 күн бұрын
​@@Jay-tx2wzhe needs to get with a good coach and practice. Watch film and see his mistakes as well.
@Watermelon_Man
@Watermelon_Man 27 күн бұрын
@@bori350 Because LeBron is more physical. Even with that speed, Tatum plays lanky and tries to lay it up around a defender whereas LeBron has always been of the mindset that he will go over or through a defender to get the best option. Plus, LeBron just has way better body control due to his strength.
@cjc2010
@cjc2010 27 күн бұрын
Tatum his rookie year was sooooo efficient. He does just make things harder for himself since then…
@BlackBruceLeeTheGreatDekuTree
@BlackBruceLeeTheGreatDekuTree 24 күн бұрын
I feel like that small growth spurt he had a year or so ago messed up his game… like he isn’t comfortable in his body anymore
@Delaretro_
@Delaretro_ Ай бұрын
This is what I like about Jaime Jaquez he goes up and tries to finish over the contact even if he gets blocked the effort is very much respectable
@Bkgiest
@Bkgiest Ай бұрын
Damn! didn't realize he did this. GET FOULED! One of the most annoying things modern day slashers do is shy away from contact. Tatums profile says that he could deliver some punishment with his rim pressure.
@noname-ed2un
@noname-ed2un Ай бұрын
Bro Tatum actually loves contact. Actually watch his game. He's one of those players that seeks the contact
@slicedbread3659
@slicedbread3659 Ай бұрын
@@noname-ed2un I wouldn't say so. I think one of the main critiques of his game is that he doesn't seek enough contact and doesn't play physical enough.
@johnrouguine3090
@johnrouguine3090 Ай бұрын
@@slicedbread3659then that’s just wrong
@noname-ed2un
@noname-ed2un Ай бұрын
@@slicedbread3659 nah Tatum loves going for the contact. He's problem is he's lack of control when finishing.
@Frank-nz1wr
@Frank-nz1wr 26 күн бұрын
I’m being brutally honest with u when I say, he’s got such a disrespectful whistle it doesn’t actually incentivize the potential to be fouled. Maxey also gets fouled a lot without calls, but throughout Tatums career and especially since he’s packed on muscle, he’s been driving with a lot more intention, the whistle just isn’t there for him
@Poopoocachoo
@Poopoocachoo Ай бұрын
If Tatum had half of Luka’s body control down the lane it’d be over
@scottpaddlety8741
@scottpaddlety8741 Ай бұрын
Luka seems to end up on the ground a lot 🤷‍♂️😂 And I think Tatum proved who was better anyway
@shorewall
@shorewall Ай бұрын
@@scottpaddlety8741 Tatum proved? Or his whole team proved?
@Will4all85
@Will4all85 Ай бұрын
@@scottpaddlety8741Luka with that Celtics team would’ve beaten the warriors
@natedogg890
@natedogg890 Ай бұрын
​@@scottpaddlety8741Tatum didnt prove anything bro, the Celts were just a better team overall 1-9. Theres not a single GM in the world thst would Tatum over Luka
@thirsty57
@thirsty57 Ай бұрын
​@@Will4all85 What warriors? 2017? HELL NO
@hansolodolo1672
@hansolodolo1672 Ай бұрын
That's why he's barely playing in the Olympics. Steve Kerr hates this type of play.
@noname-ed2un
@noname-ed2un Ай бұрын
This comment doesn't stand true after the finals
@m0nkeydluffy167
@m0nkeydluffy167 Ай бұрын
​@@noname-ed2un yes it does, he got barely any minutes
@lacanm1554
@lacanm1554 Ай бұрын
no hes barely playing because steve kerr is an idiot
@hansolodolo1672
@hansolodolo1672 Ай бұрын
@@noname-ed2un Tatum is ass and he's had the easiest finals run ever.
@koala8966
@koala8966 Ай бұрын
​@@hansolodolo1672 Yea, a 5x time all star who averaged 27 ppg this season is "ass".
@christophergooding9820
@christophergooding9820 29 күн бұрын
It's kind of scary that Tatum is such a good finisher while still having all these fixable issues
@marchingforward2056
@marchingforward2056 25 күн бұрын
If he just have Lebrons mindset to bully anyone who's in front. Being the face of the NBA is just easy.
@user-zq5jj2vc6k
@user-zq5jj2vc6k Ай бұрын
This video is so good I hope Jayson Tatum can watch it
@Jay-tx2wz
@Jay-tx2wz Ай бұрын
What do u think he should do to fix the problems he showed in the video
@CAGAT25
@CAGAT25 28 күн бұрын
​@@Jay-tx2wzWatch it and show it to his trainers might be good. Someone has to tell him to finish through contact rather than avoid. He's 6'9 and almost LeBron size. Hes also very strong. He's good but he can be SuperStar level like 30 in good efficiency
@noxyloxs969
@noxyloxs969 26 күн бұрын
​@@Jay-tx2wz what he said to do. 😊
@HBIsBlessed
@HBIsBlessed 3 күн бұрын
@@Jay-tx2wzDont shy away from contact and finish off strong
@ghostdewil297
@ghostdewil297 Ай бұрын
ı always said this while wathing him. He is good when he remembers he is 6'8-6'9
@Daveyboy_GolfR
@Daveyboy_GolfR 22 күн бұрын
Tatum needs to watch 88-93 Jordan highlights. The ultimate "how to guide" for controlled finishes in the paint.
@markolivo4830
@markolivo4830 Ай бұрын
similar to his bricking fadeaways, he's just lobbing the ball without proper control. also on drives, one cannot go thru the defender every time, it's tiring. either he develops a low post game or jump stop pivot in the paint when the angle is off on drives.
@yohankandjanga9089
@yohankandjanga9089 29 күн бұрын
He does have a post up floater he’ll do at times but in terms of driving I think tatum will prefers off one foot which in the vid when he’s shying away from the basket attempting to go at the rim that’s his detriment
@Thatboygtmike
@Thatboygtmike Ай бұрын
Seeing this makes me understand Kerr decision in a physical FIBA officiated game. Thanks for the analysis!
@presley.25
@presley.25 Ай бұрын
exactly what ppl don’t understand is he is very soft when contact from ppl his size
@truth3412
@truth3412 Ай бұрын
Yet in 2021 in tokyo he averaged 15ppg on 49% from the field and 45% from 3. Stop the cap
@jonasdauerbrenner6432
@jonasdauerbrenner6432 Ай бұрын
@@truth3412 still soft
@truth3412
@truth3412 Ай бұрын
@@jonasdauerbrenner6432 and your still slower then cold syrup.
@davidtavarez7335
@davidtavarez7335 Ай бұрын
@@truth3412that’s still not that efficient on a stacked team, everyone this year was shooting 60 plus percent. He needs to learn how to dumb his game down and be more efficient
@artix003
@artix003 Ай бұрын
iverson makes it so easy. tatum makes it look so hard. kyrie is in between he takes too much moves but still makes it.
@monsoon1234567890
@monsoon1234567890 Ай бұрын
The last time someone made a viral video about JT bricking all his step backs, everyone called the video maker a generational hater. Let's see how this video does. I agree with everything you said.
@Leonardo-Lenguaje
@Leonardo-Lenguaje 23 күн бұрын
I made a longer post, but I want to emphasize something about Tatum. He is less than stellar OVERALL as a player because he exerts no consistent downhill pressure when he's on the ball. That wouldn't be bad if he didn't also form the whole framework of his playing style around this. Tatum is on paper probably just one of the best slashers in the league--so good in fact that the team also seems to be okay with letting him play out of that role, trying to develop him into a superstar. The problem is that slashers don't make superstars. They make roleplayers. Some other problems in his game: 1. Tatum has the frame of a player like Giannis, but plays with like 0 force--I've literally seen him pushed off his spot by small guards 2. Tatum has no off-the dribble 3pt package, but insists on making this shot with regularity, despite it being like his worst shot in terms of the efficiency 3. Tatum looks like a superstar in the regular season, but falls off in the playoffs, because he doesn't like on-ball pressure, but they have him handling the ball way too much For #3, we can argue that Dallas threw the wrong coverages at Tatum this past playoffs. He's more than a willing passer, so you shouldn't play Tatum for the pass on a team where he's surrounded with above average finishers. You should play him to pick up the dribble with the end goal of making him believe he has to be the one to make the shot--i.e. don't over play his dribble. Just put enough pressure that he feels like he needs to make that funky double crossover play. He doesn't properly decelerate when going full tilt downhill and so he usually whiffs on the layups having them bounce off the front of the rim. That's a control issue, which is ultimately a footwork issue--he's not confident nor dynamic enough in his handle to be picking up the dribble later or to be making any non-obvious move. How many times have you seen Tatum make a power hop? How many times have you seen him do a proper Eurostep where he doesn't telegraph it (his acceleration never changes properly)? How many times have you seen him bully someone and back them down on a post up? How often have you seen him do a proper clean spin move at the basket? He's taken his slashing game and tried to use it as his "at-the-rim" package... and that just DOESN'T fly. The problem is he's so talented that even with his mountain of deficiencies, he's still able to be effective. I consider him like players like Brandon Ingram or Andrew Wiggins, but with more will to be competitive every night. That's his saving grace. He'll probably not retire with major accolades at this rate... but he can EASILY turn it around. I think part of it is that he needs to be needed more so he can learn to improve. His team has always been too stacked to force him through those growing pains. Don't get me started on his crossover. He hasn't mastered using the offhand and atticking the foot of the defender properly. As a result, he does it crossovers too wide and gives the defense too much time to recover.
@Matkatamiba
@Matkatamiba Ай бұрын
Hmm yeah, he really does jump at the same time every shot. I only really know Curry in terms of watching a lot of his layups, but he has all sorts of locations he can jump from: left, right, early, reverse layup. And then midair, he has so much touch and can delay his shot or do high backboard shots to get around defenders. So much harder to tell when and where the ball is going up.
@experimex
@experimex Ай бұрын
Kyrie and Tony Parker as well
@amplesstratleholm7609
@amplesstratleholm7609 9 күн бұрын
With how tall Tatum is, he should have even more options than Curry does. His height opens up the opportunity to dunk the ball outright, or see more passing lanes. Steph, Kyrie, Parker, and the like have to lay it in because their height and athleticism don't really lead to too many dunks, and therefore they have less options. They have to work on their layup and floater package to compensate. If someone with Tatum's height has Kyrie's rim scoring, it makes him even more unpredictable.
@justinholland6132
@justinholland6132 Ай бұрын
Dam it i knew who u was talking about before I saw the thumbnail lol
@Jay-tx2wz
@Jay-tx2wz Ай бұрын
What do u think he should do to fix the problems he showed in the video
@islandgamerz5859
@islandgamerz5859 29 күн бұрын
Slow down and start his finishing cycle closer to the basket​@@Jay-tx2wz
@frankielymon1148
@frankielymon1148 Ай бұрын
Celtic fan here loved the video. But on a positive note I want casuals to realize yes this was not Tatum’s best work in terms of efficiency but his passing and rebounding were incredible and mentally he did not check out at any point in the playoffs he found a way to be effective guys like Luka and embiid would have given up. Can’t wait for next season
@zkiller1918
@zkiller1918 Ай бұрын
It’s just a lanky guy thing. He uses his length to get to the rim but usually don’t have enough power off that one foot finish he likes to use to elevate and lay it in.
@robertjohn8711
@robertjohn8711 Ай бұрын
Last year Tatum had 389 attempted layups, he made 224 of them, that’s 57.6%.
@presley.25
@presley.25 Ай бұрын
not bad but look at shai ja curry lebron ants layup %
@anewrookiefreshman8716
@anewrookiefreshman8716 Ай бұрын
Just look at curry specifically
@poly_g6068
@poly_g6068 Ай бұрын
57.6% is really low for a 6'8" star forward LeBron and Durant shoot 74% under the basket.
@colinmccarthy8764
@colinmccarthy8764 Ай бұрын
@@poly_g6068are you using restricted area FG% or layup fg%? Tatums restricted area FG% last year was 71.1%. KD’s was 77%, with his layup at 64.5% LeBron was 73.3% in the restricted, 64.7% on layups. JT being at 58% is not horrendous. I would recommend looking more into these stats, cause I think you’re getting them confused
@ethanshirk561
@ethanshirk561 Ай бұрын
@@poly_g6068During the regular season, Tatum shot 68 percent within 5 ft, LeBron shot 69 percent within 5 ft, and KD shot 75 percent within 5 ft. Tatum is an efficient finisher and scorer in the regular season but hes had some problems during the playoffs and in the Olympics. (This also just shows how good KD really is)
@TJinoue
@TJinoue 27 күн бұрын
26 year old Olympic, multiple time first team all pro and multiple all stars. Yet yall love to bash him. Never had one off the court problem, shows nothing but respect for his peers yet he gets this hate. I legitimately don’t understand this wave.
@TJinoue
@TJinoue 27 күн бұрын
And champion
@ryanw9122
@ryanw9122 26 күн бұрын
@@TJinoue so critiquing and offering points of improvement is bashing now
@TJinoue
@TJinoue 26 күн бұрын
@@ryanw9122 You critique Tatum cause it’s the trend to do. Critique someone with less accomplishments like yourself. Stop being a follower
@TJinoue
@TJinoue 26 күн бұрын
@@ryanw9122 Outta everyone in the league, imagine “critiquing” the best player on the team that just came from winning a title. It’s not critiquing, it’s hate
@ahain15
@ahain15 25 күн бұрын
@@TJinouenah man, even as a Celtics fan I think it’s clear to see that Tatum has a lot of room for improvement in specific areas of his game. It’s scary that despite this he’s still undeniably one of the best players in the league. It has been a trend lately to hate on Tatum but that’s mainly just because of his recent success, and because people hate the Celtics. This guy made a great video with a lot of good points, definitely isn’t his goal just to bring down Tatum.
@Aldrine15
@Aldrine15 19 күн бұрын
JT is one of the best natural scorers this league has ever seen. He has moves on every level, strong handle, smooth jumpshot and a killer instinct. Lets be honest, he has been a major catalyst for Celtics' success in the past 8 years. Now he just got paid, look for Boston to repeat.
@RobTheSeer
@RobTheSeer Ай бұрын
Kerr realized that JT avoids contact.
@imurpapa8120
@imurpapa8120 27 күн бұрын
Were you sleeping during the finals? The Mavs strategy was to collapse the paint and give up wide open threes (which is why they lost).
@willsmath
@willsmath Ай бұрын
great video, would've been cool to see examples of good driving layup finishing like Bron or Giannis to further demonstrate some of your critiques
@nastyeggplant
@nastyeggplant Ай бұрын
Bron and giannis have stronger build but maybe a younger giannis' driving would be more useful (dont copy the one dribble dunks. Those dont make any sense)
@willsmath
@willsmath Ай бұрын
@@nastyeggplant yeah those were just the first two great rim finishers that came to mind, their builds are different enough from Tatum that they're def not perfect comps. Maybe PG or Kobe would be better comparisons
@Jay-tx2wz
@Jay-tx2wz Ай бұрын
What do u think he should do to fix the problems he showed in the video
@willsmath
@willsmath Ай бұрын
@@Jay-tx2wz not a damn clue lol that's why I think it would've been good to compare Tatum's finishing to better finishers, to show what he should be doing instead
@ibrahimtall6209
@ibrahimtall6209 26 күн бұрын
Tatum is a massive human, he doesn’t finish like bron bc he doesn’t have the finesse and tries to bait fouls
@trustmebro703
@trustmebro703 Ай бұрын
Whoever knows Tatum should send this video to him.
@maartenvz
@maartenvz Ай бұрын
Steve Smith approves of the half spin! :). Great video with incredible depth. Now if you want to see another weakness of Tatum check out his pull up shooting which has been below average on high volume for years. I still feel Tatum sometimes plays above his strengths/over estimates himself. Is it still his Mamba mentality?
@sorenwestwood1514
@sorenwestwood1514 21 күн бұрын
I'm a professional sports bettor, and one of the things I've noticed about Tatum is that his right side weighs more than his left. This is true for a lot of NBA players, and its a weakness that creates increasing complications the larger and taller a person is. Chris Paul has a similar issue, and a lot of his game is predicated on counters going back to his right or pulling up. Jimmy Butler is in a similar boat. Lebron for instance is more evenly weighted, and is extremely good at going both left and right and finishing with either hand, same with Curry. It just gives you more options. The second thing that comes to mind from my observations is that there are levels to understanding angles at the NBA level. Harden and Tim Duncan are great to watch in this respect. The shortest distance to the rim is not "head first" its generally going to be your shoulder. Secondly, there's more or less 3 lanes to the rim that you should check off, and 5 for more skilled finishers (kyrie). The front of the rim, the left side, the right, and for the more skilled, you add the left and right backboards. That being said, I would also want to point out Tatum is generally very good at playing patiently, and smoothly, and he's gotten better at using his size. On the whole, I would say there's more good than bad about his game. Just my few cents.
@TheGOATTee17
@TheGOATTee17 Ай бұрын
That’s why mastering the fundamentals of the game is key. Everyone now just focus on shooting the three or being flashy.
@ShazzaMTheGreatandPowerful
@ShazzaMTheGreatandPowerful Ай бұрын
Great video as usual! Good Job Daniel
@clipperhead9261
@clipperhead9261 Ай бұрын
Tatum has had hand and wrist injuries and actually never really had the finesse to properly roll the ball off of his finger tips in certain situations
@urbaindelva7869
@urbaindelva7869 29 күн бұрын
I didn't know that.
@DaMillerBoi
@DaMillerBoi 29 күн бұрын
Forgot that shoulder injury too
@mark-one6511
@mark-one6511 26 күн бұрын
crazy how most superstars always says that when they drive they are more worried of the help defender so while thry drive they already deciding on what to do to the 2nd defender, but in tatum its in reverse
@eternalblessing4984
@eternalblessing4984 26 күн бұрын
Tatum has to be the only star player in recent memory to win a 🏆 yet everyone's preservation of him stays the same 😂
@jphelps7188
@jphelps7188 Ай бұрын
Great analysis idk how no one has told him to go off two and jump stop in the lane. One week with Jay Wright would change his game
@k3lixz
@k3lixz Ай бұрын
him going off two would hinder him during the playoffs due to it being a quick change , jt has been jumping off 1 foot since highschool so him changing all of a sudden how he jumps especially in the playoffs would be detrimental to his overall performance than being a benefit and plus him jumping off 1 foot isnt the issue its he has his body leaning towards out of the rim compared to at the rim
@trongray664
@trongray664 Ай бұрын
@@k3lixz Yeah I agree. Same with his midrange game. It's too late for Tatum now.
@urbaindelva7869
@urbaindelva7869 29 күн бұрын
​@@trongray664I wouldn't say that.
@trongray664
@trongray664 29 күн бұрын
@@urbaindelva7869 I would. Tatum is not about to come into next season scoring from the midrange like KD and going off 2 like Zion.
@amplesstratleholm7609
@amplesstratleholm7609 9 күн бұрын
​​​@@trongray664 LeBron didn't go from quite bad at 3s to Steph Curry levels, but he still improved to be a respectable shooter as he aged. Improvement doesn't come overnight, or even on a single off-season. I wouldn't say never unless Tatum decides/is forced to retire or just doesn't want to try like Ben Simmons.
@baconslayerjohnson4668
@baconslayerjohnson4668 Ай бұрын
Remember back when people learned to drive before shooting a three 50% of the time
@ifheavenwashuman
@ifheavenwashuman Ай бұрын
He takes off way too far away from the basket, and he doesn't have the in-air grace to compensate. One more power dribble into contact initiation could help.
@dontsp12me
@dontsp12me Ай бұрын
Tatum wins champ with this huge problem. Thats how you can tell the Celtics is a very good team
@JCHR74
@JCHR74 Ай бұрын
Jt has no left. It's really that simple and help defenders are shading the lanes so JT uses long right layups at full speed that is off. Teams scout off this as a general because there is more right-handed players in the league. If he gets a left, it basically opens up a whole new bag and counters. Half spin to the left away from help. Crossover to drive away from defenders strong hand. He can make the defense second guess shading a particular side of the floor when he gets the ball.
@changwalls6391
@changwalls6391 Ай бұрын
wow....now i see why the benched him...league politics wanna push certain players, but the players/coaches know whos really ballin fr
@chidubemaladi8197
@chidubemaladi8197 Ай бұрын
then you’re not very smart are you?
@changwalls6391
@changwalls6391 Ай бұрын
@@chidubemaladi8197 lol you missed the whole point....like ya boy be missin layups...the irony
@fvbhoops3310
@fvbhoops3310 Ай бұрын
Was just looking at the exhibition game highlights he had too many soft lays that should've been dunks 6'10 7ft wingspan makes no sense
@Free-Night
@Free-Night Ай бұрын
He is not 6'10 he 6'8 in shoes with a 6'11 wingspan
@AllucB
@AllucB Ай бұрын
He’s a softie with small hands, these kinds of players always struggle at the rim
@alkebulanlion6198
@alkebulanlion6198 24 күн бұрын
@@AllucBhe nice and great player but he does have small hands he has no control of the ball
@Max-nk1wn
@Max-nk1wn 29 күн бұрын
71% rim FG% this season including 69% in the playoffs, is your rent due soon or something?
@DaMillerBoi
@DaMillerBoi 29 күн бұрын
I seen Bron miss some layups this Olympics and Bron is a better finisher than tatum don't get me wrong but it happens to the best of them don't get me wrong Tatum can get better at finishing but it not that bad he just need to play through it and stop foul baiting
@Zeke47
@Zeke47 Ай бұрын
Its crazy because even if he does get a mvp this year, it will be like a “ok here mf dam” mvp like embiid. You can tell the nba not pushing him as the face bc aint no way you get DNP’s and have commercials during the olympics and not play. As well as his efficiency vs other mvp guys. That paul george, tatum, tmac archetype wont win mvp. Those types will die on a hill of inconsistent jumpers instead of using their big mf body to get to the basket to balance out that inefficiency
@ButterGram-qv7yt
@ButterGram-qv7yt 24 күн бұрын
Last year Jalen Brown was scapegoat.This year they win Jayson Tatum now needs to step his game smh,like he dosent have Brown,Holiday,Porizingis,Horford,White to help.They play team ball,they remind me of the Spurs with Duncan, Parker,and Ginobli.Its team basketball,team sport.
@ketchupash2252
@ketchupash2252 Ай бұрын
Is there a possibility that this layup problem is one of the reason Coach Kerr benched him in the olympics? There is no Defensive 3 seconds rule in the Olympics, so there is always a bigman at the basket.
@dorianjackson6130
@dorianjackson6130 29 күн бұрын
Crazy how Tatum is receiving all this criticism. While Luka who had a far worse finals, turned the ball over, couldn’t play defense, was out of shape and inefficient receives no criticism whatsoever. Complexion for the protection personified.
@Grind2Excellence
@Grind2Excellence 28 күн бұрын
Luka played some of the worst basketball I ever saw in finals
@USA-190
@USA-190 28 күн бұрын
@@Grind2Excellence Lukas game 3 performance was atrocious … I never seen a superstar foul out in a must win game like that
@slightexag
@slightexag Ай бұрын
You could make a 10 minute compilation of Jrue Holiday missing open and near-open layups this season.
@urbaindelva7869
@urbaindelva7869 29 күн бұрын
Well, that ain't about Holiday.
@slightexag
@slightexag 28 күн бұрын
@@urbaindelva7869 i'm just saying tatum, though bad at finishing, is not the only one with this problem on the current celtics
@Game7DMo
@Game7DMo 10 күн бұрын
As a Celtics fan, it really comes down to him trying to play like an elite athlete, when he’s only an above average athlete at best. He’s not as strong or explosive as JB, but he tries to play like he is. He either needs to bulk up and become a bulldozer like Luka or become more explosive like a young KD.
@momo.ru-kun
@momo.ru-kun Ай бұрын
The problem with Tatum is he is focused on baiting fouls instead of actually finishing it strong. For instance small players like Iverson, they don't care about the fouls, they know they will get it, so they are focus on really making the shot. Tatum anticipates so much, he thinks too much. He gets distracted so much.
@Amperall
@Amperall Ай бұрын
JT watching this video rn taking notes: 🤔📝
@yunan9610
@yunan9610 Ай бұрын
That's why Tatum actually feels like he's perpetualy 19, memes aside. His game feels raw and could be much better. Even Curry which was the baby faced assassin had this jump where his layup game became really polished, before he's doing the stuff with his threes. Fundamentals is really important
@user-tk9hg8gk7n
@user-tk9hg8gk7n Ай бұрын
This is because of his posture. I hope he realizes that it makes him look so awkward .This happens when you're trying so hard to be a person you are not (like mimicking Kobe) 😂😂😂
@marchingforward2056
@marchingforward2056 25 күн бұрын
Agree, agree 💯. He needs to stop playing like Kobe and start bump his body and bully all the way to the rim.. he's 6'9. I always have doubts with him during clutch time because of this thought pattern. Why not be yourself and use your advantages to play the game easy. Drive, bully or duno on anyone. Don't spin, don't use too much euro step, don't shoot three too much. Drive and dunk the goddamn ball. He's no longer 20 years old. He's 28, he can nolongrr play like Kobe.
@user-tk9hg8gk7n
@user-tk9hg8gk7n 25 күн бұрын
@@marchingforward2056 right on brother. I mean look at him, he's a great player but I hope he gets it out of his head that he'll never be Kobe.
@experimex
@experimex Ай бұрын
I wonder if his build is too lanky to change direction that many times to get around every 2-3 defenders. To tighten the arcs of the drives he would have to make sure he doesn't tear his right ACL
@colorrookie5539
@colorrookie5539 26 күн бұрын
Tatum driving of “one foot” has nothing to do with him missing layups the real problem is he’s avoiding contact making a more dramatic lane to basket players like lebron zion will power pass the contact and make the lay up
@skniobeyn6097
@skniobeyn6097 Ай бұрын
When you are an all nba 1st team and you can still improve. Tough for the NBA
@aerosyne
@aerosyne 6 күн бұрын
I'm not sure if it'll get mentioned later in the video (only about three or so minutes in), but one thing I've noticed that Tatum will do a lot is the forearm shiver to clear space. It always irked me that, especially this last year, it's become too obvious to keep being missed as an offensive foul (which it needs to be called, it's as textbook as it gets), but it makes a lot more sense why he would use it so often in the context of this video. It effectively ensure that first defender isn't any sort of obstruction to the basket, so then he doesn't keep making these wild cuts to the hoop that are almost reminiscent of Derrick Rose's acrobatics that end up making the shots more difficult than they need to be. The difference, obviously, is even with his eventually busted knees, Derrick had much better general control, was able to get closer so he didn't need to add extra power and/or spin when stating his layups that then lead the ball to go careening in any direction but into the hoop. I mainly would contend Tatum, and not just him as it's an epidemic of modern basketball, needs to improve his footwork. Even if it sort of works, his motions on his cuts start out very good and then kind of explode like a test plane in a hangar at some point, usually the closer he gets to the hoop, and he should probably be taking off sooner, or moving slower so that all his directional changes aren't at a whiplash pace, forcing him to do Blake Griffin-esque twists and turns just to try to face the basket again. If he improves his footwork, he can control his speed & agility, which will help him turn & rotate better and more deliberately, and thus not be so easily defeated by the mere concept of a traffic cone with legs just walking into his vision at the hoop. He would also not need to use the forearm shiver to create the most ideal path to the basket for himself, thus removing any future chance of getting called of really easily avoidable chicken-wing offensive fouls that a dude at his skill level shouldn't be leaning on.
@feeleffect
@feeleffect 28 күн бұрын
Great evaluation. I noticed he's not a great driver as well and I spoke on this weakness to my buddies in his game. You took it to another level to explain it.
@martinhodell8465
@martinhodell8465 Ай бұрын
very nice analysis. Your best video yet. Keep it up!
@larry111111112
@larry111111112 27 күн бұрын
Nice breakdown video man. This why the Sportsbook make so much money, imagine how many they have on payroll to study things like this. they’d mess around hire you real talk, great breakdown
@ZixiaoJia
@ZixiaoJia Ай бұрын
I think a easy fix to Tatum's problem is to take one more dribble at paint and take off two feet. His handle is never that tight so he is used to gather and take off early, which leads to unconsistency and broken lay up techique. He should learn from Jimmy, and even his own teamate Jaylen.
@TheJwall567
@TheJwall567 22 күн бұрын
A big thing here too is that he doesn’t finish with his left hand… like EVER
@3xyz
@3xyz Ай бұрын
havent finished the video yet, but i do believe this issue is not only the reason he was injured in game 7 vs the heat in 2023, but the reason he is a very “guard” like forward. a very prominent criticism of jayson tatum is the underuse of his height and strength at 6’9 only shooting 3s. he hasnt fixed the problems his own role model pointed out years ago and this may be due to the lack of confidence at the rim and the success from deep out.
@3xyz
@3xyz Ай бұрын
9:53 - exactly this
@thomas_the_cat
@thomas_the_cat Ай бұрын
he looks kinda uncoordinated whenever he drives to the basket and there's a lot of defensive pressure/contact... sure a lot of players are too... but not legitimate superstars like what he's supposed to be
@018santo
@018santo Ай бұрын
OMG there’s actually a video on this issue, as a celtics fan I’ve always said this is one of tatums biggest issue.
@SttudDioPierrot
@SttudDioPierrot Ай бұрын
This Video Might as well ve a layup, cause Tatum's gonna miss it
@imaginehavingalimit
@imaginehavingalimit 25 күн бұрын
Tatum is a Jack of all trades. He’s decent at everything, but not elite at anything.
@julianbashir8277
@julianbashir8277 21 күн бұрын
If you think that is bad you should watch Klay Thompson contested layup attempts lol. Its literally a miracle if he makes one
@szupelak
@szupelak 24 күн бұрын
Finally, someone made a video on this. Shit is hilarious!
@gbnbagel1945
@gbnbagel1945 19 күн бұрын
Yeah I told my boy a couple months ago that Tatum has no bag in the paint if it’s not an easy dunk or lay. He’s goes in there with no plan and just chucks some lay up.
@Dogger5
@Dogger5 4 күн бұрын
Thank you bro i rly needed this vid
@yoteeel6642
@yoteeel6642 26 күн бұрын
As a Celtics fan, I wanna see Tatum using his strength more to bump defenders. He uses it a lot to setup elbow jumpers and it works well. This is what starts killing his confidence and causes the inconsistencies with his jumper, imo Edit: you covered this exact topic lmao
@bentley7544
@bentley7544 23 күн бұрын
No wonder Jayson Tatum shot “38%” From the Field in the playoffs. He Jacks up contested threes he KNOWS HE CAN’T Consistently make and Now can’t finish through contact? Talk about being Overrated.
@bluefurby5251
@bluefurby5251 Ай бұрын
I remember him backing down Steph on the low block in the 22 finals, he spins through Steph, wide open lay then brick. He kinda improved but still drives me mad when I see some of his missed layups
@presley.25
@presley.25 Ай бұрын
tatum makes the game look to hard i feel like he thinks he is 6’3 not 6’10
@YungBxndit
@YungBxndit 29 күн бұрын
Honestly very true. He’s not a player I would ever study to implement moves in my game. The way he drives I can tell he’s been doing since an early age.
@natanaelmercado9167
@natanaelmercado9167 Ай бұрын
Making All nba 1st team 3 straight years with some flaws speaks volumes 🤔
@NewEarthSon
@NewEarthSon Ай бұрын
He needs to study the likes of kobe,kyrie,derozen when it comes to finishing at the rim....particularly Derozen for his euro footwork. Tatum has lousy footwork. very awkward. If He gets better at finishing at the rim and a better 3 point shot in the 38,39,40 percent range, than we may get the first American born player to get mvp since 2018.
@truth3412
@truth3412 Ай бұрын
Lousy footwork? Your crazy. Carmelo anthony, KD, gilbert arenas are just a few of the people who talked about how good tatum' footowork is .
@NewEarthSon
@NewEarthSon Ай бұрын
@@truth3412 are you blind? Im not.... I have eyes don't need narrative agenda. I stand by what I said.... Derozen is top when it comes to footwork.
@truth3412
@truth3412 Ай бұрын
@@NewEarthSonmy eyes are fine. i just dont think you know what your talking about. I trust people like peul george and Micheal beasley' opinion over yours.
@NewEarthSon
@NewEarthSon Ай бұрын
@@truth3412 Just like Charles Barkley when he use to sprout Jump shooting teams can not win titles and live by the 3 die by the 3? I respect the guys that played but that does not mean they are right about everything they say! Everything they say is not gospel. I have eyes and a Brain.. Tatum has bad footwork.
@dimelo58
@dimelo58 Ай бұрын
That’s great content man
@theerepenterakatheecomfort277
@theerepenterakatheecomfort277 10 күн бұрын
Explains more reasons why they did better with polzenski on the floor he forces the big man away from the paint helping Tatum stop choking
@Kodreanu23
@Kodreanu23 Ай бұрын
He is always playing that "long game" when driving. Basically trying to maximize his length where he becomes too streched out to have decent body control. As a complete amateur, I see couple solutions for him: 1. Don't drive always at the same speed, change the rhythm 2. Better deceleration: either better posterior backchain, core or quads need to get better at this. 3. Learn better off balance shots . Kyrie comes to mind, but we are again talking about body control 4. Don't always go to the basket with same idea on your mind: to swivel around defenders by being taller/longer than them 5. Add some mid range pull up, to mix things up and learn better deceleration
@breadwinner3558
@breadwinner3558 Ай бұрын
He has nearly no in-between game, its been one of Tatums biggest problems. Tatums offense is either contested stepback three or drive to the rim, thats why his percentages are bad in the playoffs. Guys like Luka, Dbook, Ant can still get a shot off if those shots are taken away, because they have a stronger handle and can probe the defense better or pull up in the mid-range
@Kodreanu23
@Kodreanu23 Ай бұрын
@@breadwinner3558 agree. I would say it got worse over time. In earlier years, he was doing some mid ranges, these days is just threes and drives, but to be fair, he does have some back to the basket mid range game. But he can't stop on the dime during drives and pull up, to make things more unpredictable. Again, not good at deceleration. Plus, I don't remember ever seeing him doing some kind of floater. All in all, that's why I think his productivity oscillates that much
@Free-Night
@Free-Night Ай бұрын
​@@breadwinner3558book has better body control and a better jumpshot but a stronger handle than tatum? nah tatum much better handling that rock and he shifty wit it ion see book doin that
@chidubemaladi8197
@chidubemaladi8197 Ай бұрын
Tatum was very efficient in the post actually, is his mid range booker level? no but to say he has no in between game is a lie imo
@Kodreanu23
@Kodreanu23 Ай бұрын
@@chidubemaladi8197 when he is driving, he is not gonna stop and pull up. It's always gonna drive to the basket. I think that's what he meant
@MusicByEvermore
@MusicByEvermore 24 күн бұрын
Mabey he outa kick the ball out to the open man after drawing the other defender to him lmao
@cwavygaming6615
@cwavygaming6615 Ай бұрын
That’s okay. The same way JB had no left and got in the lab the offseason and came Back as thanos.. Tatum should be doing the exact same thing
@yohankandjanga9089
@yohankandjanga9089 29 күн бұрын
Can we stop with this narrative that he has no left? If you know prior to the playoffs in 2023 he hurt his gardening and got glass in it and got it wrapped, later on against Miami he hurt his other hand so come game 7 he basically has no healthy hands to dribble. His left is weak maybe but to say he has no left at all should be put to rest
@cwavygaming6615
@cwavygaming6615 29 күн бұрын
@@yohankandjanga9089 he didn’t have a left that’s a fact. He went in the offseason last year and came back better than ever before. He has a left NOW
@EmmanuelAniTheSchism
@EmmanuelAniTheSchism Ай бұрын
So he needs a floater game. Got it
@DaMillerBoi
@DaMillerBoi 29 күн бұрын
A float with a nice middy would make him the best in the game ,most of his lay up are contest because he defense already knows to pile up on him
@EmmanuelAniTheSchism
@EmmanuelAniTheSchism 29 күн бұрын
@@DaMillerBoi I just think that, if he doesn't fix his footwork and timing, then he might as well just embrace it and utilize that for floaters
@USFCpresident
@USFCpresident 23 күн бұрын
Angel Reese has left the chat😂
@user-xj1of5mo8d
@user-xj1of5mo8d 29 күн бұрын
I love this channel the voice the way u out the videos together really well done love this page keep up the good work
@bytbeats9591
@bytbeats9591 24 күн бұрын
He lacks patience is afraid of initiating contact. he sees space and runs towards it I agree with your point that he needs to mess with the timing of the big coming. If he can take a second to read the help he can establish his passing game as a threat and from there manipulate the help defense something guys like Luka and Chris Paul are very good at sometimes just stopping for half a second mid drive can make a massive difference
@2kTeacher
@2kTeacher 25 күн бұрын
Great video man. Really enjoyed
@lamoten8723
@lamoten8723 24 күн бұрын
6:13 It's not that Tatum starts too far, it's that he picks up the ball too early. 6:08 you can see that he picks the ball up near the 3-point line, which has him jumping too far.
@allphornunn
@allphornunn 22 күн бұрын
I think it's mostly his lack of spin finesse. The highest-percentage finishers like Curry are so adept at knowing the perfect "English" or spin to put on their layups to offset their high closing speed or angle.
@FOEKROKA
@FOEKROKA Ай бұрын
without even watching im going to assume zion williamson has one of the highest layup percentages ever. If tatum had the finishing ability or zion he would be one of the goats. I don't know if zion pops up at all but his finishing is some of the best we've ever seen.
@GreenAppleEditz
@GreenAppleEditz Ай бұрын
Get this video to JT right now
@mushrifahmed8107
@mushrifahmed8107 Ай бұрын
This was a really good video.
@davidwiechecki9205
@davidwiechecki9205 20 күн бұрын
Love me a little contact, Petey! Tatum needs to force the And 1 like MJ, Kobe, and every other superstar in history. Get the fouls on your opponents and still score.
@crazyvideotape245
@crazyvideotape245 Ай бұрын
WestBRICK missed a lot of easy LAYUPS when he played on the LAKERS.
@scottpaddlety8741
@scottpaddlety8741 Ай бұрын
You mean when he played on the Lackers lol Prime Russ was a monster though
@urbaindelva7869
@urbaindelva7869 29 күн бұрын
This ain't about him.
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