The Story Of Electric Vehicle Batteries

[@NewMind]

This is just a consolidated re-upload of my two-part episode on electric vehicle batteries. It was initially supposed to be a single video, but due to it taking a month to produce I was forced to initially split it up in order to keep the algorithm happy with timely uploads. 😛

[@AndrewMellor-darkphoton]

hi dude

[@salimbenchekroun7543]

I love your series on CPUs and stealth technologies.

[@marioghioneto1275]

Salim Benchekroun i love basically all of his series 😂

[@haves_]

I see, that's why I feel like I've watched this before

[@InvisibleManCZ]

No matter what, I will gladly watch it all again.

[@xiro6]

Just a note from an impressed lifepo4 user. I bought a 48V 10Ah lifepo4 battery for my electric bicycle, 16 Headway cells in 38120 format, claiming to hold 80% capacity at 2000 cycles against usually about 500 cycles of regular lithium cells. Had to look the invoice to refresh my memory about the date, because it was in 2012. That bicycle is my only vehicle, well, the type, because it is the second one, and over those years had to endure an average of one recharge a day, sometimes even 3 having to fast charge without let it cool. They are supposed to last about 5 years before aging degrade, but it performed pretty good until just recently. About 5 months ago dropped noticeable in performance and cant deliver more than 50% at the 23Amps the motor demands. Until that sudden drop was capable of delivery more than the 80% frontier. That's 10 years of intense work, about 24A continuous load and they are rated at 30A max sustained and 10A recommended. They are bigger and heavier than lithium ion, but they are also as safe as lithium can get, not causing fire even when punctured or hard shorted. But Men, even that peace of mind gets obscured against that endurance, 10 years of continuous hard service, hot summers, cold winters, and who knows how much it can give, as it still make 1/3 of the mileage, but 3/4 at half the constant load. What a difference, i still remember those poor cheap Pb batteries, what a nightmare. And they get easily more expensive than lithium if you want them to last more than 6 months. I hope the electric car nonsense don't make the batteries unaffordable. An electric SUV is not green, and moving 1,5 tons of metal to transport 80kg of meat doesn't matter if it's petrol or lithium. Ok, it's hard to switch to a bicycle, but please, please, why the growth of electric SUV sales? We want more range, but when improve batteries and motors we make the vehicles even bigger?...

[@Aerith17]

Because that's where the market is, especially in the U.S. The majority of new vehicle sales are SUV's. People want bigger cars so, from a business perspective, it makes sense to produce electric SUV's.

[@shane864]

Don’t let perfection be the enemy of progress.

[@babygirl8181980411]

Not to mention headway is technically a super capacitor, and very affordable.

[@twdodd439]

2m into video: umm this seems familiar 7m into video: its not that i've heard some of this elsewhere is it 11m into video, sees picture: Hey! This is? a re-release? 12m into video, power tools: This is a re-release! I've seen this vid before, from you. Oh well, still a good video, i keep watching.

[@codyrap95]

Exactly!

[@Morkvonork]

I had the same feeling :D

[@jena4109]

Agree

[@simonmaverick9201]

A lot of non-peer-reviewed and recycled data presented in this presentation - nothing new but a good review on basic battery history.

[@sebastians3773]

Hey, love your videos, they're informative and you pick good subjects and the relaxed use of visuals is nice too. A suggestion, if I may... you have a lot of content to cover and its technical content so its tricky to get it all out without a script to read from, so you're fighting against your VO sounding like you're reading from a script. If you break up your script into small chunks and record yourself delivering those from memory, without reading the script, after a few times, each segment will flow more naturally. This will help the main points that you're trying to convey to stand out, as you'll naturally emphasise what you know is important. Could be an easy win for an already great set of strengths you have. Thanks for the videos and keep up the good work!

[@Artaresto]

^Constructive criticism at its finest

[@simonmaverick9201]

Excellent advice

[@kevinloving3141]

This is what constructive criticism should sound like, my good sir.

[@chiefdenis]

Wow this is great advice, i know it's not for me but I'm taking it

[@rairaur2234]

Really solid advice

[@lucasdolsan1636]

Stellar as always! Do one on radio! And by the way, you're one of the few channels that I must have the bell on

[@alpha123-g1i]

Battery tech is a really exciting topic to keep track of. Will be seeing massive progress real soon

[@garethbaus5471]

We are seeing massive progress right now.

[@eSKAone-]

Goodenough repeatedly looked at the current products and said to himself: "This is not good enough."

[@EnvyTheRealest]

And Wellenough was not happy

[@exMuteKid]

Lol CURRENT PRODUCTS nice pun

[@eSKAone-]

@@exMuteKid 😉

[@TheNheg66]

The fact his first two names can be written as Johny B. blew my mind. Johny B. Goodenough ... lol

[@logank444]

Mr. John B said this not Goodenough

[@eSKAone-]

It's a joy to watch (really nice synchronized pictures and music), and a feast for my curiosity.

[@FirestormX9]

Your video was great! It absorbed me as i absorbed the information. However, could you make slightly more detailed description animations for the electrical/chemical/scientific processes you narrate so well? That would literally make this channel pretty much a staple for science based learning!

[@jacobreid7992]

Your work is absolutely amazing! Thank you for the adventure!

[@countteddy]

not forgetting cobalt is also used in the oil refining process where it is consumed and therefore unrecyclable unlike in EV batteries......

[@camiemengineer]

Any ideas how it could be made to become recyclable for that application? Could an alternative to cobalt be used?

[@automaticprojects]

I believe cobalt is only used as a catalyst in oil refining, so it is not consumed. There is only some loss due to erosion. Electric batteries currently use more than half the world’s cobalt. But either way I think we will find solutions to reduce or eliminate cobalt in both applications.

[@JensSchraeder]

Batteries are so environmentally friendly. That is until the spontaneously combust! 🔥

[@DH-24-1]

what I learned on this channel in few weeks is more informative than my 4 years of engineering school... Great content

[@davidclements6507]

Should have paid attention at school then

[@simonmaverick9201]

Really!!!!

[@ML-xp1kp]

This is high school science, combined with light factoids and specifics. You have never been to university and have no experience with engineering.

[@jameshoffman552]

High quality, well researched information.

[@steelshepherd6843]

Can we just stop a second and appreciate the name "John B. Goodenough"

[@iteerrex8166]

Great video! A very important battery that was missing form the list is the Nickel-iron, with a potassium-hydroxide electrolyte. Quite possibly the best chemistry for stationary batteries. Tho low in density it is very simple, nontoxic, long lasting, no rare materials. Making it an easy and ethical choice for non-mobile storage, but for some reason it hasn't taken off. Maybe due to its longevity its pushed back, because the industry wants disposable things, that's where more money is. These last for decades and when done, it can easily and completely be recycled, and there's nothing toxic.

[@dana4261]

iTeerRex very true. They just aren’t very efficient and release hydrogen so you need to deal with venting/safety. I still think they’re cool though,

[@simonmaverick9201]

Nickel and potassium hydroxide - non toxic - really!!!

[@kristianhermann5971]

Great documentary 👍 I just wish I could've slowed your voice down 25-50% at times. More pauses to let that info sink in for the listener is something to consider next time round 👍

[@nunya___]

@6:45 I believe Henry Ford intended his cars to run on alcohol (because he was a farmer and farmers can make alcohol cheaply) but he made the carburettors so they could run either gasoline or alcohol.

[@marioghioneto1275]

Man, your videos have such a good quality that you should make some documentaries for Netflix or curiosity stream/brilliant, any of those or all of those

[@amine7280]

Second that.

[@simonmaverick9201]

Problem there is none of his content is original or new.

[@AjinkyaMahajan]

Your videos are marvelous and inspire me to learn more about the topic ✨✨👌

[@maxpayne438]

Great video/documentary, youtube should put it on featured, deserves more views

[@underscorenul]

Just one note… 21700 cells aren’t at all new or designed by Tesla. As well as the fact the proper name of them is 21700. Just like 18650, the number indicates the diameter in millimeters, and the length in millimeters * 10. I.e 21700 just means 21 mm diameter, 70 mm long.

[@marioghioneto1275]

Fun fact: the lunar ascent stage could be jump started with the batteries from the rover, that never happened though

[@davidclements6507]

WRONG from the descent stage batteries if needed, Apollo's11 12 14 never had rovers

[@WarpedYT]

I love this one 😍

[@lw8213]

Some years ago i went to the store and bought my self a 4k tv, Thanks to you :)

[@Sciguy95]

John B. Goodenough helped make a breakthrough that was more than just goodenough.

[@JayLikesLasers]

Thanks for the video. Around 09:35 you mentioned that the most famous electric vehicle known to date was the lunar lander. You meant to say the Lunar Roving Vehicle, otherwise known as moon buggies. Though I notice others have picked up on this same minor point.

[@Kevin-jb2pv]

"Hey, so I heard someone solved the problems with Lithium Ion batteries. So are they good to use in out new product?" "Ehh... It's Goodenough."

[@irfanliaqat1967]

Nice video... But I would love if you can do a video on different batteries and effects on their performance at different temperatures (especially temperature ranges that they are most likely to work in real world application). Thanks...

[@ZacandJinx]

Nice addition of music to your videos! Keep it up!

[@tensevo]

Brilliant mate. Please continue to bring sanity to the space.

[@oby-1607]

A great understanding of electric batteries. I have always hoped that transport of people would be more along the line of diesel-electric locomotive energy transfer. A small engine would drive and alternator and it in turn would charge a bank of batteries for bursts of energy when needed and usually drive motion through electric motors at the tires. Incredible rates of economy would result.

[@davidoyinbo59]

This channel is officially my best

[@NicolaeSpan]

25 seconds i m here!

[@onkcuf]

This isn't the story of electric vehicle batteries, it the story of teselas

[@clavo3352]

Really really great video! Will watch it again. This 65+ old geezer only has about a 12 min attention span.

[@nupursinha6307]

I was reading a paper but not getting the things properly. This video helps a lot

[@StefanReich]

I keep zoning out of this video but I just like to listen to it. Love the sci-fi vibes.

[@lukeusherwood2525]

I was impressed by another video on the Duesenfeld recycling method - cold shredded, recovers a lot more materials, and so efficient that the charge left in a battery can power 1/3 - 1/2 of its own recycling! Sad to hear here there may still not be enough Cobalt around for "all the cars", so maybe Na-ion or something else next-gen will be needed, as this video says.

[@lynsmith3154]

I understand that Volta who taught animal anatomy developed his electric pile after studying a newly discovered electric eel from the Amazon river. The eel has a big stack of striated tissues very similar in form and function to an electric pile.

[@Pilot_engineer_19]

What is really needed! A new concept in thinking about stored energy and charges. In all conventional batteries energy is stored on the plates of the battery. The electrolyte is the conductive medium. Now what if we could make an electrolyte in which the charge is stored. The plates act as part medium and charge storage receptacles. What this would mean is that to charge your battery would only need to change the electrolyte, like filling your car with gas now. The old electrolyte would be removed and the new fully charged electrolyte would replace it and you would be on your way. If such a battery could be developed it not only increase the range, speed, versatility of the ev but would also be more economical.

[@Allexz]

Thank you for this, subscribed. Very good content!

[@tedybear9186]

God damn it man. I have an assignment about batteries for cars. This video would have been great if you just release it a day earlier

[@12201185234]

This is actually a reupload of a two-part video he released a month or two back, so...

[@tedybear9186]

@@12201185234 *Insert your name here*

[@luongmaihunggia]

We need to go back to LiFePO4 batteries. It's so much cheaper than cobalt based lithium batteries. It may not have the best energy density and specific energy but it's just good enough.

[@simonmaverick9201]

My 89 year old mother swears by zinc-carbon.

[@Tore_Lund]

He Also forgot about the successful EVs of the 90' especially in Europe and the fact that Tesla is just a brand name, the research and devellopment was made by AC Propulsion.

[@LarsPallesen]

Which is why Tesla will be using LiFePO4 batteries for all their standard range cars going forward.

[@oscoguita]

Magnificent research! Thanks

[@severinhahn1610]

Very well researched piece and factually precise. I found it disappointing, however that the engineering contributions of yoshino were not honored as the were in the nobel prise.

[@glazzinfo6031]

Great work " professor New Mind "

[@addmoreice]

Why is 'shelf-lief' misspelled on that one battery? (19 seconds in)

[@recessiontwentytwenty3858]

Sharp eye

[@recessiontwentytwenty3858]

Oh damn , "sheif" lief ... Now even stranger 😂

[@daleolson3506]

China junk

[@Allexz]

Also "Envirommental" on the same battery :D

[@ClockworksOfGL]

nya_nya_boo - Yeah, I’m sure the quality of that battery is top notch... 🙄

[@christopheb9221]

I hope we have infrastructure built up for EVs like not just for charging but a recycling system setup for batteries. I wonder about even consumer electronics if they are going to landfills or what. What would be nice if we could have wireless charging for cars that you could park over rather than plugs

[@TheVeryGreatBear]

Interesting fact: In 1899 in New York, 90% of taxis were electric cars. This suggests that they had the infrastructure to support EVs. When we make the transition to EVs we should be able to implement the required infrastructure as well. It will not be easy as it sounds now, but it is possible. But I agree with you about the wireless charging.

[@Tangobaldy]

Do you have a music free version?

[@xenonram]

There was a tiny bit of background music. Get over it.

[@maxant4285]

@@xenonram and it was annoying

[@2.7petabytes]

Lithium Farrah Fawcetts?! Just kidding. Nice video! Your work is always top notch!

[@josephmalfino7735]

That's what I kept hearing too!!

[@tensevo]

I've said it a million times, plug-in hybrid is the way to go. At least until we have magic power or perpetual motion.

[@AlexAlex-zm5qr]

I think that after tesla battery day it need an update 😉 grate content btw love the channel 😊

[@rklauco]

Great video! Thank you.

[@tonystanley5337]

Many are persuing LFP batteries, and its possible to make Cobalt free batteries. Batteries have infinite chemistries to try, and there are many untapped reserves. A shortage of 1 material is unlikely to be a problem.

[@arsenalgear3009]

A great video. Thank you 💖

[@knobjob2839]

"we made batteries hold 50% more energy!....by making them 50% bigger..... *Cough* "

[@proberts34]

Very good video. Thanks for posting. Hopefully the power companies and various governments will get serious and apply a similar amount of effort, innovation, and resources towards clean electricity generation and increases in transmission infrastructure capacity as the people and companies did developing the chemistry and batteries to make this all possible. Otherwise, the growth and adoption of electric vehicles will be hobbled by restrictions on, and rationing of, the ability to charge our EVs.

[@listtamaru]

Awesome as always.

[@abudabidibibudi]

big respect from MNE

[@spenner3529]

No mention of the electric starter motor, which made gasoline-powered cars practical.

[@GroovyVideo2]

Great video -Thanks

[@recess677]

Loved the video! One point, your chapter about the abundance of Lithium and cobalt was a little ambiguous. Specifically you say that there is not enough Lithium in the world stage but didn't dig into why. Was it because Lithium is not abundant enough in the earth and we will deplete it or because the mining and refining supply is will never meet demand?

[@Darthvanger]

Amazingly interesting!

[@kolinmartz]

John’s batteries may not be perfect but they’re definitely good enough.

[@oliwerjeger8112]

Tą historię bez powtórzeń dało się sensownie opowiedzieć w 5-8 minut, popracujcie nad tym by nie rozciągać tego tak mocno. A poza tym świetny materiał.

[@saraali-kx2mo]

Really nice!

[@gregfeneis609]

In the early 1900s electric and steam power hung on well until the electric starter motor came into popular use.

[@simonmaverick9201]

Or the hand crank cars!

[@mxcollin95]

Great video!!!

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

can't have a video about batteries without the typical "our poor planet and the humans" segment at the end :D

[@jayeshjani6357]

nice summary............ It would be better if you have added the story of the evolution of batteries in smartphones,,,,,,,, Or throw some light on the same.

[@jimday666]

Very nice!

[@masterimbecile]

Johnny may not be goode, but at least he's good enough to become a revolutionary battery engineer.

[@RogerBarraud]

26:32 I can hardly hear you, as you've ramped up the 'music' for the Climactic Conclusion... :-/

[@itsjustme1949]

As current as this is I'm surprised quantum glass batteries weren't discussed as a possible future technology that might bring about substantial improvement.

[@Cross-xm2fr]

Great video thank you 👍🚀🚗🚗

[@ABDOU-cj3pp]

Hey, love your videos

[@werfy55]

Thanks!

[@NoogahOogah]

John B. Goodenough’s solution was good enough

[@benji376]

The way he pauses slightly to enforce his point😍

[@simonmaverick9201]

He pauses to read the script!!!

[@Al.j.Vasquez]

9:38 are you kidding me!!? How long has this video existed for? How old is it? It's the first time i see someone riding on the moon. I'm mindblown.

[@lescoe]

The moon buggy footage is older than you are. Have you spent your entire life under a rock?

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

@@lescoe this post reminds me of the movie dumb and dumber, when jim carry sees the article about the moon landings on the hotel wall haha. Anyway. @khotta bogard real engineering did a cool video about how they made the wheels for the lunar rover. As they could not be traditional air filled tires obviously. Very interesting and worth a watch if this is new for you! Enjoy

[@NewMind]

Hahaha good reference

[@Al.j.Vasquez]

@@lescoe I've seen several videos about the moon landing, the advancements that lead to it, and the benefits for science that it brought, but let me tell you, i never saw the lunar rover before, and I'll possibly be getting a bunch of recommended videos about it now that i know it.

[@Al.j.Vasquez]

@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 i feel slightly roasted you know....

[@rairaur2234]

On the other hand, scarcity of lithium and cobalt might in turn advance the space mining industry, which would be neat

[@crazystuffproduction]

very good

[@morkovija]

Here comes a blast of some quality content straight to our faces! Heck yeah!

[@mikewasowski1411]

Awesome. Sooo well presented!

[@BanterEdits]

Maybe do an update going into the advance of LFP and upcoming NaIon tech.

[@thatoldbob7956]

Excellent choice of programs. Best if the is no BACK-GROUND-MUSIC. I find, for me, the narrating voice has too much of slow start and slow ending of the words, another way the sound wave is to far from being square waves. However it appears very understandable. For people borne into the English language it’s easier to understand while the learned English has more difficult time with understanding.

[@Rhen5656]

13:18 i dont think this man is a real chemist.

[@umaikeruna]

He used to be. But he decided to follow his dream of being an actor. Unfortunately, the only role he could land, was that of a chemist.

[@morkovija]

shiiiit you guys! Great catch and theories!

[@CookieCraftMedia]

"No sir, I assure you I am a qualified chemist!" *shakes hand nervously*

[@andonios-hr5qt]

You are right... He's a bartender.

[@garethbaus5471]

I have always wondered how different our world would be if henry ford developed a cheap reliable electric car rather than gasoline. Assuming that car was popular it would probably be safe to also assume that battery technology would already be at about the point we will hit in 20 to 30 years although emissions technology for power generation might be a bit behind current levels.

[@stabilini]

Great video, what about graphene batteries?

[@ilayda426]

Wish it has subtitles by this way foreigners also can understand...

[@sioux22]

13:13 that's how caffeine overdose looks like

[@freddoflintstono9321]

I agree 100% that vehicle drive trains of the future will be electric. They're simpler, less costly and easier to maintain. However, I do not think that the energy to power them will come from batteries, as the power to weight ratio is 1:200 of fuel and recharging them does not just take time, it also requires profound changes to the grid to support mass deployment. I suspect the motors will be fed from fuel cells.

[@michaelmccarthy4615]

A year later, Lithium iron phosphate batteries are ready to steal the show.

[@johnjordan3126]

That should be Silicon Valley when you introduced startup Tesla. Silicone Valley is probably further south, around L.A. or Hollywood.

[@ernestoglez6725]

It's obvious that J.B. Goodenough father was a Chuck Berry fan

[@tarikwasfi]

Love ❤️ it /Morocco 🇲🇦

[@Paul-cj1wb]

Mostly accurate, although with several misconceptions on timelines and credits such as leaving Akira Yoshino out of the Lithium battery advancements, and GM selling their battery technology to an oil company who sued automakers and prevented them from using it. Also, Lithium is the 25th most abundant element on earth and climbing rapidly as more and more economically viable extraction locations are discovered. LFP and Lithium-Sulfur batteries do not use Nickel, Manganese nor Cobalt. Also, Sodium ion batteries, more for stationary storage, does not even use Lithium.

[@famouscivilcone6254]

bro i’m digging the videos and subbed but not really liking the number of adds every video don’t wanna press skip every few minutes while i’m listening 😭👌

[@simonmaverick9201]

He has to make money!!

[@cheekong08]

The caption should be "The Story of Vehicle Batteries" 😀

[@hondaguy9153]

I wish they would have kept selling the Altra. Something with some more room than the Leaf would be awesome. I don't know the dates of the original release, but as of June 2020 the Tesla model S can get over 400 miles on a charge.

[@davidclements6507]

YEP driven at 40 MPH with the AC off maybe

[@hondaguy9153]

@@davidclements6507 *shrug* I don't know how they perform their range test. I don't think it's that extreme. It might be 55-60 on flat ground. The AC doesn't really use that much power. Cooling the batteries and heating the cab... That's a different story.