The Story of Gorgrond - Warlords of Draenor [Lore]

[@MegaPixelzGaming]

Could you do Nobbel's Top 10 Future expansion ideas? :3

[@K___R]

yes pls

[@GamingShadesHD]

Holy shit yes

[@ianhorne9594]

Yessss

[@11201994]

fukcing do it !!

[@Daniel-li5gl]

yes!!

[@GoggleCandy]

I would love a video discussing both the lore and possible present and future location and use of the Scythe of Elune. It doesn't get discussed very often, yet it shaped an entire faction as well as had a notable influence on the Duskwood zone. I feel it deserves a bit more love and attention.

[@TheHorreK2]

is there nothing about the area where all the gron etc. are turned to stone with this giant stone hand reaching to the sky?

[@Nobbel87]

There is a little bit about it in one of the garrison campaigns, so cover that in a campaign video.

[@mr.rapter4517]

Nobbel87 Gorgorek hype!!! :D

[@SamanthaOwens]

I was so glad i tried out the sparring ring with my rogue, I like Gorgrond a lot more now knowing those storylines are there to complete. Awesome video! I was going to ask if Rexxar was from our reality but you answered that question. Looking forward to the next ones for the other zones :)

[@DominicanHater2375]

Nobbel, your Dutch chocolaty voice makes lore just that much more sexier. How much would it cost to fly you over and have you narrate my life for a day

[@paulinal9609]

Man I cannot get enough of you channel even when I did the zones, I did not notice as much detail as you do, and I am rediscovering them again with your videos. You are very good storyteller, keep up the good work ! (Major buyus on your channel, love love love it!)

[@RoseFloofer]

Could we have more on the Laughing Skull? Maybe a comparison between our time LS and Their time LS?

[@Evilleoleo]

Nobbel87 I have a suggestion for lore videos. I was wondering the other day if you have ever made a class lore series (I couldn't find any specifically for classes). With this I mean the lore of warriors, mages, warlocks etc. I know that some of these classes already have been more or less covered in other lore videos, for example much of the warlock lore, but it would still be cool to see some lesser known lore of classes!

[@TheGamerZapocalypse]

The cut scenes and voice overs really bring a lot to the game! Thank You BLIZZARD ...and Limbflayers Battleaxe looks like a giant razor blade...hhahahahaaa I luv it!

[@Raku_Shiratori]

The story of Mal'ganis, some people who never played Warcraft 3 or played entirely through zones in Northrend will probably not know who he is or how he influenced a specific event.

[@RaMeOnEr]

I'm not certain if you were thinking about this or if there's a video for this, but I would very much like to see Lore videos for each ingame class. That would be interesting to watch!

[@EJ_Red]

Nobbel, can you make a lore video on the famed blade, Ashbringer? As well as lore on its wielders, all the way down from Alexandros to Tirion, and how they got it, what they used it for, and all that? I think the lore for Ashbringer is awesome, so I thought it'd be cool if you told its story. Thanks, and love the videos, man!

[@Tryxtira]

Hello Nobbel! I love your videos and I regret to never have commented on any before. Anyway, I know you probably have a million of idea of lore videos, but what I would really, really love, is a comprehensive lore overview of Highmaul. I think that would be something a lot of people would enjoy. Explain who Margok is and why Chogall shows up. I'd love that! :) Thank you for your awesome content!

[@BlastBinary]

Great video! Garrison campaigns have the best story lines going that I just dont want to spoil for anyone who is waiting for a nobbel vid :)

[@rskTempo]

Yo Nobbel, first of all... Congrats on the channel. It's really cool to find someone really dedicated to the lore side of the game, considering it's the aspect that got me into the game in the first place. Second, it would be great if you started out a cycle consisting of Faction Lore. Not the big divisions (Alliance/Horde) but all the small factions, such as the Lorewalkers or the Golden Lotus in Mists. Great job, man. Keep up the good work.

[@Gamersauce99]

I enjoy your lore videos. Perhaps you could do a lore video on the origins of each of the playable races? Or perhaps even all the races?

[@Dabol124]

Finally a lore video, great one! :) I might have a suggestion, i mentioned it once already, and it is he story of Rhonin. Keep up the great work. And also Happy new year everyone!

[@ZythorEbonlock]

Yess, thank you! I could not quest through Gorgrond on launch day due to bugs, so I had to skip that zone. Thanks!

[@voose03]

I love these location stories, please make them more often bro! Thanks anyway

[@MrBoegela]

I want to know more about the lore behind the land itself, like it's a giant skeleton of some gigantic monster. The entire land is a corpse

[@bullstergaming9305]

Amazing, i was just starting the new expansion but damn, awesome that rexxar is back!!!!!

[@Avelerdor]

Lore video !!! Thank you Nobbel

[@MegaJTHM]

What about the blinatron 5000 story? the cards you get from the gifts suggest that there is a battle going on that we don't know about. I think that would be a very interesting video...or at least part of your Q&A thing.

[@amaterasu159357]

I want to thank you for your videos. i absolutely LOVE watching all the lore videos you post. And you have a way of story telling that add alot to the video. Thank you sir for the great work and goodluck =].

[@Astrolime]

I'm pretty sure the Orge empire falls at the end of Highmaul given the title you get for being Mar'Gok in Mythic called "Empire's twilight." Throughout Draenor there are small reference to the declining Orge empire such as the conversation about Bladespire citadal in Frostfire to the orge ruins scattered through out Draenor. There could be a second Empire besides the Gorian the follower Tormmok when you talk to tells you about how he is sent to find the ruins of the Old Empire in Gorgrond. If a true Orge zone were added into the game like an Island it would probably be part of the Gorian empire trying to hold together against falling apart completely seeing as they lost their Capital city and King. They are quite a few parallels to the Roman empire buried within the savage Gorian Empire such as Gladiators, and Centurians. heh.

[@VanorstusTV]

i like it how ur alliance toon is a pally and ur horde toon is a DK.

[@Warchiefaa]

VanorstusTV isn't his Alliance Gnome a Rogue though ?

[@LufiaSinistral]

is their any lore of the classes themselves other then DK and monk? i would love to see a video on the classes themselves

[@hevenlytemplar]

Hey Nobbel, great video as usual. As for suggestions: I've always really enjoyed and understood all the lore except for the Scarlet crusade as they don't really explain the full story very well in game or in any novels. I'd love to see a video on them. Thanks, and I hope you had a nice new years celebration! :)

[@saranghae1saranghae]

Nearly all of Rexxar's pet's names end with "sha." Nisha, Misha, etc.

[@brassboy212]

It's funny how Rexxar has the same model as the one from our reality. You think that he would be a little different considering this takes place 35 years in the past. What do you guys think?

[@ForForm]

Blizzard has said in an interview that they ran into the "Orc Situation". A moment where the team realizes they have too many orc-based moments. That's why they did a complete overhaul of Gorgrond just before Beta started (dont quote me on that one... can't remember it too well). The 6.1 PTR notes tell us that the Iron Docks will be an important new quest hub, so I guess we get some hype going for Blackrock Foundry pretty soon :)

[@TheShindomaru]

Hi Nobbel! I'm a big fan of your videos, and like many, I'm a big fan of the Arakkoa! Would be cool to see a detailed video on their history and their key players. WoD gave them a decent amount of backstory, which is why Spires of Arak is my #1 favorite zone! #MakeArakkoaPlayable #Raa-ak!

[@anatom222]

#MakeArakkoaPlayable

[@tjoms182]

I thought it would be pretty cool to hear your meaning on the top10 questing zones (with both story, enviroment and the quests taken in consideration)

[@Pipperonni]

Have been following your videos for some time and I love it. Keep up the good work. Im just gonna leave here a suggestion. I would like to see a video about the lore of the classes themselves. Like how did the magic classes came to be? Dks, palas, priest, shamans, druids etc. Who were the first class masters and the racial differences between them. Like druid night elves from the trolls that use the loa. Dont know if this sounds interesting for you, but thanks for reading. Looking forward to more videos.

[@dreadgear9683]

Nobble, what's the general idea for goblins of the iron horde. Originally, they were part of the blackfuse company who were hired by garrosh. In WoD they followed garrosh into draenor, but now and a lot of goblin officers. Why would they still be part of the iron horde, do you belive there is maybe a big goblin mastermind behind. who seeks the greater good .. for his own wallet?

[@hawkeyegough9090]

money and threats speaks volumes with goblins, and the chance to make a new thing that goes boom in a spectacular way

[@MASTERSHADOWLINX]

Gallywix is still..."serving," the Horde, I believe, so no, there isn't a big goblin mastermind behind it.

[@dreadgear9683]

MASTERSHADOWLINX Goblins have multiple goblin factions, only 1 faction of goblins from kezan isle joined the horde, other are neutral, Some are independent of faction and some work for evil companies like Blackfuse or Venture Company. And we have seen plenty of skilled goblin engineers and mercenaries as dungeon bosses in the "pure" orcish horde made i iron.

[@MASTERSHADOWLINX]

I know, 'twas just my attempt at trying to be funny and saying that Gallywix is the only goblin that could be a mastermind.

[@dreadgear9683]

Aye, Sorry , sometimes reading a text is hard to idetifie the tone or the manner of talkin (sarcasm and so on) in the chat. ^^

[@Thebakedwizard]

Seeing this made my night!

[@veedubklown]

Can you go on about Kilrogg Deadeye, and how his eye became a warlock ability? I know you touched on it in another video, but one about him would be great. Btw, LOVED the Rexxar video!

[@DarkenIrishWolf]

Wait to see the level 100 garrison quest near here( Gorgrun ) that dropped this week..."heart" of a Gorgrun comes to mind.

[@sugmael]

I find it weird to see Titanic influences on this alternate Draenor, mainly because it was the Titans themselves that stated that there's only one "true timeline" (Aman'Thul granting Nozdormu his powers?). Then again, I find all kinds of time travel a bit out of place in the Warcraft universe for the same reason. We all know Blizzard and their lore-loopholes though. Great video as always, thank you.

[@bindair_dundat]

Do a video about Grom Hellscream. Not the abomination we see in WoD, but the real Grom Hellscream. The one that freed the Horde of demonic corruption. Too many new players will only know Grom for the one-dimensional villain he is in WoD. Now that the expanion is out, it may even be too late to change their opinions, but it should worth a try.

[@Sigmundfruit]

Frankly there's little reason for him to be anything else if you look at the timelines

[@goran77ish]

He was always like he is in WoD, just had shining moment at the end. Reckless and eager to fight. Only thing I dislike is why is he leader of Iron horde? In our reality he was warlord but more fighter on the field then real leader. Great tool fro war.

[@cosminbalan9325]

Every WoW villain is 1 dimensional as all hell if you go by just WoW. Vanilla villains are made up monsters. TBC everybody goes coocoo for cocopowerpuffs. WotLK Arthas is Satan or something. Most villains are just his minions, evil minions of course. Cataclysm Deathwing is Satan too, but he is actually possessed by super Satan. Bla bla bla trolls want more power. Rag wants to be evil and destroy stuff, same for Alahkir Akbar. MoP Kung Fu Panda has better villains. And Garrosh is crying because Thrall abandoned him, so he goes full on Skeletor evil, and he left Anduin on the train tracks, will Thrall be able to blandly stop him? Or will it fall onto a group of what's their faces heroes to save the world for the bilionth time? And now we reach WoD, Villains=Orcs Orcs=BLOOD AND WARR AND PLUNDER AND WOAHHHH MURDERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR LOK TAR OGAR. So basicaly any kid who has ever played PvP as a Horde. We got Ogres too, which are exactly like the Orcs except they hate Orcs, and yeah those are the villains we have. Oh and Thrall cheats in a duel of honor vs a 5 year old called Garrosh or something.

[@m.b.7560]

You realize Grom has always been a one dimensional villain, right? He is an orc after all...

[@Maximara]

Cosmin Balan WotLK Arthas is more like the Joker in the _Killing Joke_ ie if I push you far enough you will loose it just like I have. As for Deathwing you really didn't see' him until the end and he came off as 'I have totally lost it and want to kill everyone. Garrosh tried to recreate the only Horde he ever knew ie a Horde composed only of Orcs and I agree with him in that Thrall shoulders a lot of the blame for that mess.

[@Isola95]

I really enjoy your your lore vids. So fun and interesting to watch and listen to. Keep it up bro! Hello from sweden

[@AmpleConfusionify]

You should do an all encompassing lore video telling the story of everything thrall has done so far.

[@KenGar1752]

I would love a full play by play of lore for burning crusade expansion cause so far you have done an outstanding job detailing information and giving great speculation of what is untold of lore as well this would help me greatly since i am running a WoW RP and you have have done a fantastic job bringing me up to speed since I've been beng watching your vids soo ty for great vids i hope my request comes through and can;t wait for your next vid of lore :D

[@Nitrome225]

Hey nobbel it would be fun to watch the links between the lore of WOW from the begining through the eyes of the first of the classes we play. For example from the eyes of the first DK's or the first paladins and so on. I think stories are much more fascinating told from the eyes of the one that lived them.:D keep up the awesome vid's and good luck in the neaw year :).

[@AlexanderForsman]

My favorite zone in WoD ^^ So diverse, yet so intertwined.

[@tendozyi6612]

Nobble could you do a video (or bring this up in a Q&A) about draenei shamans? There were almost only things about paladin/priest on draenor, which is really something that sucks as i wanna know more about them.

[@Dagraine]

It would be awesome if you create a video describing each side's (both Alliance and Horde) expedition that comes to Draenor, so you would tell us like this general comes with us, though others are behind back on Azeroth, who is missing, would be cool

[@yanakievful]

Hey Nobbel. Can you please consider the rangari lore as a video. As far as I remember the Drenai civilasation was based on something far beyond nature. However in draenor we do see drenai that are alot into nature and that those drenai have climbed into the leaders of the race as we can see from the Yurel's garrison campaign where she becomes an exarch. Thanks for the best lore vids I've seen in the net.

[@iPro0]

Please make a lore video focusing on Bolvar Fordragon and the events leading up to him becoming the new Lich King!

[@Geckokidthepaladin]

I kept wondering what the Cenarion Druids were doing in Gorgrond, but not a single lore/quest attached to it, the only quest was to feed the little piggy around the area!

[@LaketreeRKR]

I know it's not very Lore-y, but...Leeroy? He's a significant part of WoW. So much so, they added him as a follower and as a part of UBS.

[@sethmitchell4785]

I think a speculation video on what the main story line in zangamash may have been if it was implemented. I think it would be a pretty cool idea

[@mateskoneni]

I will never see rexar in the same light after playing heartstone

[@mateskoneni]

Karoar12118 dumbass.... not my faut you're butthurt offended by every silly thing somebody says on the internet

[@BRO56002]

Karoar12118 You're a fucking pathetic little shit.

[@BRO56002]

Karoar12118 You're getting mad because he doesn't like that playing such an awesome character as Rexxar is mindless and simplistic in a card game. Grow up.

[@BRO56002]

Karoar12118 Stop pretending like you're right. You're obviously mad, you commented in the first place.

[@Anidem9]

Hmm. Could it be that the Old Gods manipulated everything from making the aspects lose their powers, all the way up to Garrosh going to Draenor? Doesn't seem far-fetched since they've done something similar in the book trilogy War of the Ancients. Maybe old gods like C'thun, Yogg-Saron, and even Y'shaarj having had lost their physical form wanted their bodies from this alternate timeline in order to continue with their plans of throwing Azeroth into chaos, and now they have TWO Azeroths, and now they have Draenor. Were playing right into their hands like always..

[@xannidel]

I would love a lore video over one of my favorite Warcraft heroes, Kael'thas Sunstrider.

[@Vjuul]

Hey Nobbel, since his story has come to an end, would you do the complete story of Garrosh Hellscream? :)

[@maladussky2480]

Tirion Fordring! You said way back in one of your vids you'll make a vid for Tirion but we still don't have one. Its a shame too because i totally love Tirion and how he led the Argent Crusade and shattered Frostmourne. I also wanna know if he'll ever make a return in a future expansion. love you vids!

[@Its_Sun1]

Can't wait for Spires of Arrak!

[@TheMoonman4]

Shoutout to my boy Bony Xuk. Keepin' it real, givin' no Xuks, even in death.

[@dakillxone]

Hey Nobbel, I would love to hear Tirion Fordring. Its look like no1 make a full story on him. and I hope to see its and I hope you make its and I love your lore storys :D

[@diabetic65]

Could you do a video on the history of the Trolls and their empires, their fall, and what lies in store for the remaining Zandalari and Zandalar?

[@name7251]

Could you do a video about the lore of the Arrakoa?

[@timstaudenmaier7674]

yes, please. those birdmen are interesting and i think they have a lot of story behind them

[@volimNestea]

He already talked about them in a Q&A I think.

[@josephbrewer1210]

Excellent as always

[@leorvm]

I don't think you have one so I would like to see a story to Lor'themar, I think he looks pretty cool and I would like to know his story better. I understand you are covering WoD now but it would be nice if u could do this eventually.

[@tubstube]

suggestiosn for lore: The story of "Grommash Hellscream" how the alliance was found The story of "Arthas Methrendil"

[@ozzyziggy4991]

Hey Nobbel how about a lore video on just a bunch of side/ interesting characters such as, Etrigg, Nazgrim/Nazgrel, and the alliance versions of them

[@hotshot461]

there has been something I have been thinking on for some time... do you think you can do a lore video on the Spirit Healers? they have held my attention for some time, and I want to know more about them

[@alfredashford5924]

The Story of Spires of Arak. I love the Arakoian Storyline.

[@Darkpaladin024713]

Hello Nobbel, I love your videos and love the lore of WoW. So I was thinking back to when I started playing around early Wotlk and late BC and I was thinking there isn't much lore on the San'layn! I know that they are vampires and that they serve the Lich King but what are their origins! We had one in Karazhan before Wotlk came out and then they were introduced in small ways through out northrend! Just would like to know more abut them!

[@KnightofEkron]

I kind of wish they did more with the Botani, perhaps make an "evil" life faction for future expansions.

[@Emeronite]

Hi nobbel...... I have a suggestion....can you do a video on the arakkoa lore right from spire of arrak to the tbc era and how things are different this time around..... It's an awesome lore

[@CharlieFullyCaffeinated]

I'd love for you to do a lore video surrounding Nobundo please ^^

[@angelmnieto]

I would LOVE to see more on the Aarakkoa.

[@jadovaoliaro]

Hate youtube never alerts me of the videos im actually interested in.... bit late but thats for the vid Nobbel87! heres to an amazing 2015

[@igordekiparis]

Looks just like in In'Goro (whebe Titans could take control under creatures to study them) and Sholazar basin (where two kinds of creatures was made). It aslo explain why this area is so different. If that Janasar (or how his name was, that big plant creatures) are demigods, than they also must have some mighty parents like Cenarias had?

[@Namekjohn]

great vid noble! one thing that bothered me about the Lumbermill questline hordewise was the fate of cutter. do you think he died in the aftermath? judging from kaz's dialog when she joins your garrison its pretty grim but there's no clarification to whether or not she lost him.

[@blazeman9410]

hey nobbel i was wondering before the next raid tier (blackrock foundry) comes out you could do a lore video about highmaul? much appreciated!

[@tothbarnabas8045]

Hey Nobbel! Can you make a lore video about the Furbolgs? I love them, but i dont know much about them!

[@bindair_dundat]

So, there are other warlords as well, they just weren't important enough to put them on the WoD banner. Like the Iron Wolf guy and the Laughing Skull leader. It makes one question why the Iron Horde launched an attack on Azeroth while half of Draenor was still fighting against them.

[@honorkill1959]

Now i can sleep well,thanks Nobble.lOve you man

[@TheDexier]

Baine Bloodhoof is a epic characyer in the books, you should make an video about him his story is intresting.

[@BarberBruh]

Suggestion? Laughing Skull lore! I need to know more about these orcs T_T

[@xzhou]

Hi Nobbel, can you do a lore vid on the sub classes of wow? battle mages, melee hunters, demon hunters, spell breaker, rune master and ect.

[@lordofhatred510]

Happy Lore Monday! :D

[@Miyao05]

Thanks for sharing that story nobbel! I actually just got Rexxar part just now on my monk before I watch this video but its nice to see it again without my little breaks between ;) My only curiosity is.. We know Draenei were Priest, Warriors, Paladins, Hunters back in Draenor (They were shamans later due to the whole broken happening) but...where is the lore with saying they are mages..? I tried hard to look for anything specific but couldn't really find it. Some speculations but again nothing full story so makes me wonder if they were Magus before they landed in Draenor.

[@volimNestea]

The original Eredar were great magic wielders. Most of them were mages back on Argus. There were no Priests/Paladins until the Naaru contacted them and by then Sargeras was already on them.

[@Miyao05]

volimNestea But that makes no sense if velen was sort of a priest already and he was one of the leader of the eredar, so they had to have been priest and paladins back in their home world. Naaru might have given them more faith but I think they were already light type creatures.

[@volimNestea]

Miyao He wasn't a priest back then.

[@erikamoore7091]

Nobbel could you do a lore video on Muradin Bronzebeard? he is one BA dwarf who's survived the harsh lands of Northrend became thane of frost hold and lead the assault to the icecrown. I just want to know what happened to him after wrath of the lich king and possibly before the warcraft 3's human campaign. Muradin is my "idol" in wow right next to Suarafang. I just love BA's who get stuff done without any handi-caps like magic, just shear skill and battle hardened warriors.

[@gotadrop]

HI Nobble so great to see your 2015 return. Im a big fan of your videos, and i wanted to know, what do you think of the nagrand history and over all, the end of the kairoz history, regards!

[@borislavarnaudov475]

They have to address that old god "hologram" in Hellfire Peninsula. It made it clear that Old Gods are not exclusive to Azeroth, and that one might still be in the Tanaan Jungle.

[@melon123456789]

I love the way you roll your Rs, do you have an accent from some place in particular?

[@Deathslayer156]

Do a video about Rhonin. He seems to be in pretty important and besides he's dead so you don't have to wait for future lore about him.(unless blizzard brings him back -.-)

[@willstanbury9725]

Isn't it stupid how ranged DPS and melee DPS have (not including DKs, rogues, and hunters; they're broken right now) are more or less equal in DPS, yet for some reason melee gets to wear thicker armour, so they are generally just a superior class(they do usually equal DPS and are harder to kill because of armour)

[@ryanscanlon2151]

didn't get a chance to bring this up when you did the Shadowmoon valley but do you think you could do a video about the Ashbringer now that we know almost for sure that it was forged from the heart of Kara in our reality?

[@alayerlp]

hey! love your vids! i would love to see a lore video of the 1st and 2nd wars of azeroth, hope you make them in the future, greetings from Bolivia everyone!

[@ajaxo85]

A bit out of context for the current expansion but I would love to see more info on the theory of a south seas expansion. There is a veritable goldmine of lore surrounding it that has never been explored in much detail. Seems a wasted opportunity by Blizzard, or hopeful just delayed. Also Kul Tiras...why is this still not in game? The closest we got was Tol Barad, which is part of the kingdom...but thats it. With its close proximity to Gilneas and Dun Morogh its seems it should have been added in years ago.

[@idiragon]

Hi nobble! love your stuff! but i would really like it if you gave a bit of a story for the raids and dungeons you solo. they kind of pop out of no where and i dont know what you're Doing there

[@varlaxian7638]

Hey nobbel first of all your videos are awesome keep it up lol but I wanted to know why deathwing torched the sw park (Idk if u already covered it yet lol) also there has been 2 xpacks and they still didn't rebuild it lol

[@Acirnie]

I guess they just don't like building. Look at the roof in Sentinell Hill Inn, or the bridge in Lakeshire - they were being built for even longer. :D And for the Park. I think Deathwing just wanted to show off since he didn't destroyed the city and just stood on the main gate. Or maybe he was driven aways before he could do it. Who knows. :)

[@shieldhitbox]

Wait, so you only get to quest with Rexxar when you pick the Arena? DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD:

[@Ower8x]

the conflict between the plat and stone creatures reminds me of what goes on inside of bone tissue between the osteoclasts and osteoblasts, Interesting.

[@MunCheeeX]

If you could get into the lore of the laughing skull in detail that is the clan i love the most and it would be grat if you would do that kind of video for me

[@3117master]

Ik this is from Nagrand, but is there more lore on Mankrik? Besides the Barrens storyline. "It took me forever to find you and now you're gone" If that doesn't make you cry you have no soul.