The Story of Stormheim, Aegis of Aggramar [Lore]

[@DZombieDragon]

Another interesting fact about the Halls of Valour: those kings you fight just before Skolvold, they're the same kings that King Ymiron calls to for their help during his fight in Utgarde Pinnacle. Really nice nod I think. Great video as always, Nobbel! :D

[@k01dsv]

We know, Nobbel have said this :)

[@DZombieDragon]

Oh oops, forgot about that XD

[@CharxGaming]

fun fact: the 2 dread ravens are named huginn and muginn which is also the names of odins 2 ravens in Norse mythology which are his eyes and his ears out in the world

[@BarackGamingObama]

You can't fool me, Lorewalker Cho!

[@DKHZStudio]

so Ist odyn was loremaster cho all along ;)

[@davedumm5197]

DrSandwich I was literally JUST about to comment that.

[@Loremastrful]

Agreed, I would think Jim Cummings would have given Odyn a more rascally character. Throw in some Don Karnage or some Pete.

[@felskeren284]

as a dane, i find Stormheim to be my favourite zone, because of the amount of Northern Mythology

[@darionmograine9267]

i am a Dane aswell and hold the same views.

[@Bushwhackerdk]

DJ Fuck-up same

[@noahdkg]

DJ Fuck-up i thougt i was alone

[@mathiasnyborg4845]

DJ Fuck-up fuck yea

[@danielbell9793]

as a shadow priest, there is a whisper that your weapon gives you sometimes at the end of halls of valor that tells you to ask Odyn about his imprisonment by Loken. When you talk to Odyn and click the option to ask about it he gets very angry with you and uses "spear of light" on you and kills you.

[@surelydone]

yea, i laughed really hard when that happened with me

[@osirisgem]

I think this was my favorite zone and the Nordic based folklore was a real treat. Thanks yet again for another great video.

[@geostyma]

as I don't have a computer right now I love these videos cause I can still keep up with current quests and lore moments , much thanks !

[@JoseHernandez-em3rp]

Why did Lorewalker Cho have plastic surgery to turn into a Vrykul?? Did he not enjoy being cute and cuddly?

[@rdogg114]

Odyn was such a fan of lorewalker cho's story time that he mimiced his voice.

[@drakefire6675]

To be fair, who isn't a fan of Lorewalker Cho's voice?

[@theghoul2303]

he sound like lorewalker Cho with a Norwegian accent

[@hhe5218]

I'm not, never liked cho

[@kingvarien]

I think they're the same voice actor. Just like the voice actor for Cho voices the nightfallen elf you find

[@Gurtington]

I LOVE that you treat each video as its own, and not making us click a bajillion links :) You said something about some Val'kyr left to the shadow lands and they sometimes bring the dead back to life. I was wondering why when you start a forsaken character why there were val'kyr there and now i know why. I suppose those that left to shadowlands are also ones that help Sylvanas out but they are very limited. Sorry for the long rant but THANK YOU for your videos Nobhunter. :D

[@TheDupeDavec]

Thats what I need on a monday morning :) Thanks and cheers cause I wake up mornings with a cup of coffee and your videos + 2 of kripps so its an epic morning every morning :D ty and keep it up !

[@Insomn1a]

been checking your vids for white a while now Nobbel87, you brought me to lore and i'd like to thank you, your videos are amazing.

[@greyjeth]

Good to see ya Norsewalker Cho!

[@sebytro]

Poor Skovald just wanted to switch spec to Prot. Cool vid, Nobbs!

[@quillsnwhiskers]

Cullen sounds kinda like the voice actress who did the voice for Ruffnut in How to train your Dragon... I love it!😍

[@Xerocoo]

LoreWalker Cho.... is that you? :D

[@RileyRivalle2]

+Xerocoo They didn't even try to distinguish their voices, and it pisses me off.

[@Xerocoo]

I honestly thought that it was going be revealed that LoreWalker Cho was actually a Bronze Dragon. hence different disguises.... nope bad Viking accent

[@baastex]

Thought it was Chen Stormstout but hew who cares they are friggin panda's

[@hctaz]

They used this voice actor for a lot of things. This is Jim Cummings who is a very famous voice actor. Disney's Winnie the Poo, Tigger, Pete... so many characters. He also obviously voiced Havi and Lorewalker Cho but also Runas the Shamed. He uses his "Pete" voice for Runas.

[@nakenmil]

This just in: Nordic and Chinese accents are apparently the same. XD

[@TheDougliestDoug]

Another excellent video. Would love to see one about the Nerubians, SIlithus and everything with them sometime soon!

[@Malentor]

Fun fact: Havi is one of the other names of Odin, in norse mythology.

[@stevp]

Great video, Nobbel! It was a close call for me when chosing which zone was my fav. For me it was between Valsharah and Stormheim. Stormheim won it mainly due to the fact that we (the alliance) chase after sylvanas by the end of the storyline... and then that gen v sylvanas cinematic #gold

[@BioNichole1]

It's really cool doing the Stormheim Questline as a warrior, for two reasons. 1) After you speak with Helya at 15:26 she has an extra line after that one that goes along the lines of "consider this payback for taking my blades". Unfortunately I wasn't recording that, and I can't find the exact quote, but that's effectively her words. 2) At 18:09 Odyn first says "Forgive the deception, [character name]. I could not interfere with the trials, even for my own chosen champion!" And then he says the line you hear in Nobbel's video above, but with the tweak that he calls you "Battlelord". I love all the unique class touches they do in these questlines.

[@bubbles784]

Nobbel you forgot a very important part... stirring the soup.

[@TarryDruid]

Not sure how many noticed this, but the 4 kings you fight before the Skovald fight in Halls of Valor are actually the 4 kings that Ymiron calls upon during his fight in WotLK. You can tell this by the little buff they have. The buff is what they were associated with when Ymiron called them (Ranulf of the Screaming Abyss as an example)

[@mgmg26]

Nice explanation for vrykul-valajar-valkyr-kvaldir. Though I got confused about relationship between 'god-king' and 'shield-maiden'

[@crouchinglibcrab9527]

I get more excited for these videos, than graduation

[@stormrage2696]

I was expecting Azsuna today, any idea when that will be covered? Great work as always tho nobbel!

[@juliansmit3770]

I still think Stormheim is a very cool zone, though many don't like the storyline

[@arnotehgamer1824]

first few times it's cool n shit but if you're an altoholic which levels every alt that means you have to do stormheim 12 times and you'll get tired of all the rp and just hope you can skip certain parts trust me i am an altoholic

[@Gebink]

I'm levelling my fourth character to 110 and Stormheim is fine, Highmountain really burns you out though.

[@jaimefaria6036]

yea

[@XochiCh]

Its the vikings man, WotLK had enough vikings for me.

[@dpalmerama]

For lore nerds, it dates all the way back to the Titan Forge fighting against the Old Gods, where thanks to his heroic efforts, Odyn was given the title of Prime Designate of Azeroth. He created the Halls of Valor as a way of making sure he was the one to make sure Azeroth was defended righteously. Until he was betrayed and the Halls were sealed.

[@cyclopsboi]

great video nobbel! I like hearing you actually pronounce the names rather than my american brain trying to process that many J's in a word.

[@Wawza14Gameplays]

Havi sound really familiar, maybe its Cho's voice actor?

[@Zabwow88]

Good job nobbel love you keep it up!

[@laszlopohl3374]

Damn Nobble it's half past midnight here. :'D

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

i'm loving the voice acting in this expansion

[@bindair_dundat]

Except when it's Tyrande. She should just drown in a moonwell during one of her beauty baths...

[@TzarAugustus]

Do you have any videos on the First and/or Second Wars?

[@badgermcwaffles4834]

stormheim has to be one of the best zones! what with the whole fued between sylvanas and greymane; then theres all this lore with the vykral and odyn and such. Some simple but nice tricks. Using odyn with 2 ravens is also a nice touch. They did a really great job with this one with grapple hooks and such; wish there were MORE world quests here though as I always end up in boring azshara

[@arkindal]

I love Havi's voice, he's the only one I still listen to even after three characters dinged to 110. But Nobbel, did I zone out mid video or did you skip the part where we see the cutscene in Skold-ashil? You know, the one with Genn and Sylvanas? I was hoping you'd talk about what Sylvanas was trying to do, her deal with Helya and all that. I still don't know what was the lamp she was holding even though I've read all the quests and I hoped you'd be able to shed some light on that part of the story. And what about a mention of the Maw of Souls?

[@Wolfpack-cn7lp]

Hey Nobbel I have a question, so the Naru are they made by titans or are they their own type of gods sense the human Dwarves and basically almost every other race worships the light instead of the titans. I'm just curious.

[@JReese630]

I did the Stormheim questline on my horde main, but would have bet all my gold that Havi was actually Lorewalker Cho in disguise.

[@TrashPanda.Garage]

Could you please do a lore topic on diremaul? i would love to watch that!

[@therealnelox]

Could you do the Rogue Order Hall Questline

[@PikachuLPHD]

Why didn't you inlcude the part with the Cinematic in Stormheim. With Sylvanas, etc?

[@Boxfortress]

Commander Shepard sounds like they picked all the sarcastic dialogues from Fallout 4

[@-Omega]

what was the deal with sylvanas in helheim? have we learned anything more about her pact/whatever?

[@joesphbrown7322]

Glad to see this ending cause of eye issues not able to run the D's looking forward to seeing the next one

[@dpalmerama]

Here's hoping Nobbel does a video of Odyn. He was dubbed the Prime Designate of Azeroth by the Pantheon after his heoric efforts changed the tide against the Old Gods. However he was against the the Dragonflights becoming the new guardians of Azeroth and thought of them as lesser beings. He created the Halls of Valor and turned Helya into the first Vy'krul against her will. However when Lokan went mad thanks to Y'shraaj, he got Helya to use her hatred of Odyn and seal up the Halls of Valor (as she was the one who helped create it) trapping Odyn inside for thousands of years.

[@Iolhello]

I can't believe not a single person at blizzard googled "how to pronounce aegis". It's especially obnoxious because they used to pronounce it correctly in previous expansions.

[@Lightningblitz861]

Who made the intro theme you use on your videos?

[@Loremastrful]

Storywise: This feels a lot like its predecessor the Howling Fjord. It's clear Azsuna and Stormheim are the most starting zone like and this one is the favored one with a stronger narrative and a closer tie to the main characters. I liked the storm dragons. Both in their design, but also the part they play in the story. One strike against it though is we don't see this conspiring between Gul'dan and Skovald. In Wrath and Cata, you saw the main villain contract out the work to local bad guys. Arthas winning over the Valkyr or Drakuru. Deathwing raising Ragnaros or Al'Akir drawing in the Neferset. A scene or two would have made an already strong story great.

[@calay123456789]

But what is the difference between Alliance/Horde - questing? (were finally this stupid Skyfire got shot down and the thing with the Valkyra) this is what would have really intrested me. will there be a separate Lore Video?

[@aureliodeprimus8018]

He did this separate video first, look a little deeper in the playlist.

[@alfredashford5924]

Everyone says that Havi is Lore Walker Cho who turns out to be Odyn going through a trans-species/trans-mortal phase however what you ALL might not know is that Lore Walker Cho is actually Hondo the Space Pirate. Who says Pirates can't be lore masters AND a titan keeper?

[@jeosilverninja]

Do warriors get any special differences in the Stormheim story seeing as they're already Odyn's chosen? Also, why does Aeyir hate you if you're on the Alliance just like if you're on the Horde? Didn't the Alliance free her from Sylvanas? I'm not missing anything there, am I?

[@XochiCh]

I was very confused about Havi being Odyn, I instantly knew he had something to do with Odyn (The 2 ravens), however, didnt the curse on the Halls of Valor prevented the Warriors from leaving the place? (Edit: LOL 9:06-9:08)

[@ZanathKariashi]

he's basically a projection. That is simply too weak to really affect anything himself (and also a reference to Odin's use of the guise of a wandering Hermit to manipulate people into doing his bidding). Think the Avatar of Freya in Sholazar Basin, even though the real Freya was trapped/MC'd in Ulduar. That's what Havi is.

[@lucasmac15]

didn't they recently add some more lore to the Na'aru, you should do a video about that :D

[@Talon367]

hey nobbeltje did you know that the 4 kings we battle in the halls were mentioned by ymiron in utgarde? just wanted to know since you didnt mention tht

[@Defaign]

1:02-1:09 Nobbel cooks like Nomi ? And still manages to do it in 2 attempts unlike a certain panda in Dalaran.

[@Ower8x]

My question is how does this mesh with the Warrior artefact quest line as they should already have access to the halls no? so why are they trying to get access again?

[@jordanread5829]

Basically, warriors have to prove ourselfs again, as Odyn can't play favorites.

[@LordFakeGodz]

Is there any special RP happens when Warriors with Artifact goes to Halls of Valor, For example just like Druids when they fought 1st boss on Darkheart thicket where the boss comments on Druid's Artifact? is Yes, then that's might answer your questions If not, then let's just says Warriors that goes there lend a help to fellow Champions, or simply they are there without their artifact.

[@jordanread5829]

Only if you are fury. The first boss will have a cry about how he should wield the blades

[@MrBlazer688]

please make a video about the army of the light

[@aidanniles1788]

So cool. Do the lore of the Mage order hall please.

[@user-pe9qg3hg3k]

"Thankfully, she's in a good mood!" 15:14 Nobbel 2k16

[@TieJote]

Nobbel you need to make a video about the plotholes with Stormheim and the Valkyra/Eyir. You save ashildir from helheim, she still trusts you to this day, she enabled us/graymane to save eyir from slyvanas in Skold'Ashil. But when we do Halls of Valor, Eyir talks about us not having any honor, she saw our deeds in stormheim. Now, after finishing the 30 corrupted essences for the "legendary" questline in Legion, you are sent to eyir - again it is ashildir to let us in - but this time you get eyirs blessing without any trial, she actually says that ashildir told her of our heroic dees. Plothole? Intended? Did i miss something there? Oh and also, do a video about the Illidanquests and the "legendary" questline.

[@FelixFalora]

I wonder if one day Nobbel will bring up unique artifact reactions.

[@Syler321]

I'm still sad that there aren't special conversations in stormheim or the halls of valor, when you are playing a warrior. It's a bit awkward being Odyn's "greatest champion" but still being treated as he doesn't know us

[@bindair_dundat]

Hey, Odyn. We heard you like to test people before you test them again. So we added another test after their first two tests in 7.1.

[@Maniacdog]

fun thing is if you play a warrior your story is a bit different, he will tell you that even you his champion need to do the trail but he knew you was going to be the victor.

[@felfireman2495]

nobble87 are you gonna make a channel trailer??? it would be so cool

[@harrisoncho3501]

do you think the Lord of Ravens from Il'gynoth might be Odin? I heard we're gonna free him in Trials of Valor and if he was eventually consumed by old God's corruption due to long time imprisonment, he can definitely betray us at the key moment to use the pillars to unleash N'zoth(we trust him as powerful ally+as Titan keeper, he knows how to use pillars more than any1 else in Broken Isles) . Although I don't think Odin is corrupted, this might be a possibility. I don't see any reason for Lord Ravencrest or Khadgar to unleash N'zoth

[@levikolevy]

I like it when odyn said we were remarkable.

[@soarlozer2808]

Anyone got a link for main plot lines of wow from vanilla to legion. I tried getting through some of noble playlist but it was A LOT of videos, im looking more of a 1-2 hr series.

[@brunoferrid]

what about "maw of souls"... what is the connection?

[@Fjordur_]

when was playing "Legion" i found out that "Havi" was "Odyn" before he revealed himself. when you meet "Havi" then there are 2 birds "Huginn and Muninn" and that's a big give away if you know Norse mythology. Huginn (from Old Norse "thought") and Muninn (Old Norse "memory" or "mind")

[@KazumiKiguma]

Havi was also one of the names Odin used whenever he'd disguise himself among humans in norse mythology.

[@Fjordur_]

That's Actually true "Hávi = High One" but that is just one of many names he had

[@THEMRSMILEZ1499]

nobbel are you on US because atleast raven crest Is us or can the lfg do both us and eu

[@darionmograine9267]

Nobbel ur accent is so cool, WHERE IS IT FROM!?

[@tripleabd]

two thing that has been bugging me since the start of legion and i still cant find an answer to! please if someone knows let me know! first, is halls and helhiem the only heaven and hell for azeroth? is it for all races or only the vrykul? is the shadowlands another hell or just purgatory? second, we are seen to kill people in this "heaven" and "hell" but what actually happens to them? do they just sieze to exsist or they are just defeated and faint/knockout? or do they go to purgatory?

[@silverspear21]

I think if you die in Helheim you go to the shadowlands, but they have not explained that part. HoV were for Vrykul warriors who died in glorious combat, and Helheim was created by Helya as its counterpart. The shadowlands are separate and not much is known about it but from what I gather it is similar to the Emerald Dream.

[@nakenmil]

Was this a combination of the zone leveling and the zone dungeon? Or just the leveling experience?

[@Nightdude23]

Enthused Norseman Both, yes.

[@nakenmil]

Nightdude23 Thanks for clarifying. :)

[@mitchel7289]

on which realm are you playing on?

[@ionic_archangel2655]

I haven't played legion cause I can't get it yet did they show what happened to illidan after gul'dan stole his body from the vault of the wardens yet?

[@woolengold8447]

Is the mount your using invincible?

[@Lokkemad]

No, you can't see invincible.

[@woolengold8447]

Lord Frisby I deserve that

[@kikibombon22]

You mean he can't hurt invincible, but he couldn't be able to see invisible

[@SCWIC]

+kikibombon22 It's a trade chat joke.

[@kikibombon22]

sorry Missed out on that, since I was playing on private servers

[@Darcmagikan1]

i rly hope that we can team up with Helya vs Odyn in a raid :3

[@canigna]

16:09 Such insolence! Such arrogance! MUST...BE...PUNISHED!!!!

[@Andrew-tz5zh]

Apparently the 4 kings before Skovald are the kings that Ymiron calls upon in Utgarde Pinnacle...

[@dimitriweber1204]

Can you get one of these dragons as a mount?

[@richardm.garciajr.9930]

A great background story

[@hejhejhej8627]

Do warriors order hall please

[@silverspear21]

Why is becoming a Val'kyr a great honor for Eyir? Are there val'kyr that work for Odyn and not for Helya? Why does Eyir refer to us as bad/evil or having done bad things? If she is referring to Sylvanas why does Odyn allow horde players into HoV etc?

[@Sasuageface]

Is that Hando Onaka I hear in Havi?

[@doisel971]

what where is the cinematic/ cutscene

[@dreadpiratedan]

anyone else get "Downtown Train" by Rod Stewart stuck in their head while questing in Stormheim?

[@bluffleaf]

Why didn't you talk about the shadow priest artifact interaction in this

[@Tijuanabill]

17 thumbs down are all from God-King Skovald

[@jgyoung1981]

If glory is the key, what does that make the hole it goes in?

[@koligan1234]

Is there Any good lore around Booty Bay? :)

[@Kikeron]

You don't mention anything on the Sylvanas plot in this area. The bargain with Helya and her try to control the valkyr.

[@RileyRivalle2]

+KIkeron Look at the title.

[@tripleabd]

this video is a two part, he already did the first part talking about the story and this part was about getting the pillar that was the end of the previous part.

[@Kikeron]

@Joe Wow. You decide to do a nice thing and answer a question but you turn it into a lecture...

[@IHADTHECAKE]

The bars, they bend and twist under minsks strength. You....you..... are as smart as boo sometime.

[@premmyjung01]

Who is Eyir? What is she?

[@XeviousGames]

He said Helya!

[@azurengamer9392]

Odyn was the biggest part of my issue with Stormheim, he's most of what I dislike bout some titanforged creations, blind an ignorant to their mistakes an believe themselves above mortals, he and his creations are not worthy to judge us nor dose he deserve his epic lava beard.

[@Amaryllon]

right? Someone who killed, twisted and enslaved someone they once thought of as their adopted daughter is supposed to judge our valor/honor? At least Loken was manipulated by Yogg-Saron...

[@azurengamer9392]

Ich bin an to think the current Val'kyr queen says we have no honor for that incident Sylvanas did, which wasn't that different to what Odyn did to his daughter, but clearly mortals were wrong to do that kind of thing XD

[@Amaryllon]

AzurenGamer obviously XD

[@thehermit8723]

This makes no sense, shouldn't Odyn be furious with the Horde after Sylvanas transgressions??? She tried to enslave one of his most powerful minions and he is like yeah no problem. Plot holes, plot holes everywhere.....

[@thehermit8723]

+Akhilesh P You are right of cource, but still considering that we see Odyn wanting to go out against Helya, I would be dissapointed if they show him tolerate Sylvanas presence. And another thing I find it funny when people complain about Odyn's horrific transgressions but when they talk about Sylvanas and Illidan they tend to turn a blind eye.....

[@doggybhawbhaw1483]

+Grumpy # odyn looks like idiot guy.

[@onalith]

Odyn doesn't care about his "collaborators". If they can't take care of themselves they aren't worthy. That's why he send us to fight Hyrja while she attend to the biggest event of her life, in HoV for example

[@Trigarta]

So if Havi is Odyn in disguise, how is Odyn able to leave the Halls of Valor? I thought he can't leave that place because Helya put up a barrier he can't overcome.

[@jaimefaria6036]

Odyn didn't intend to give the aegis to skovald at all, did he ??? I have never understood that !

[@Shadowlurkering]

As a wrestling fan it has to be done. Stone Cold - If you think Odyn is a sorry son of a bitch, gimme a Helya. Players - Helya! Stone Cold - And that's the bottom line cause Stone Cold said so.

[@Mravatarmech]

hearthstone lore for icehowl please :D

[@ashoush85]

why did they make Helya the bad here ? Odin was a selfish tyrant and she was against his selfishness

[@RileyRivalle2]

+mohamed ashoush None of them are either pure bad or good. Isn't that a good thing in a story full of complex characters? And if you want to get technical, I don't think the "canonical player" knows the backstory of those two yet.

[@satchmoomega2686]

They are both kinda bad people, but it so happens that Odyn is our ally against the legion while Helya gets in our way.

[@khalduras784]

mohamed ashoush hes a pridefull perfectionist.Hes kinda like the old illidan.You do it his way and only his way.But the difference here is that after like over 15 thousand years of imprisonment where he is forced to watch his keeper comrades fall/succumbed to the darknes,the world sundering around him and madness taking over the world which couldve been orevented had he stayed,he deffinitely changed himself and is trying to make it right now while helya doesnt give a damn about anything anymore so yes,making her be the villain here makes much more sense.

[@elliot1460]

Because this is a game and it is their lore. They write their own lore, they just took over some names. Don't get fussed up about it :)

[@jaimefaria6036]

Odyn understood that only an armie would stand against the threats... he had to make it !! Helya threatened him, and she paid rightly ! I understand him

[@Murasamune9]

Was really hoping to see Varian Wrynn in Halls of Valor.

[@khalduras784]

christopher rubio the place is only for brave and honorable vrykul warriors.He only accepted the warrior players because he needs them.

[@BioMatic2]

Gul'dan took his time with Varyan....maybe he damaged or even destroyed his soul.