The Story of the WCW Invasion: The Alliance vs WWF

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@KasirRham
@KasirRham 4 жыл бұрын
Sting vs Taker, Booker T vs Rock, Austin vs Goldberg, Hogan vs Triple H, Steiner vs Batista. All in big brutal hard hitting matches would've been great.
@kingkazerous80x58
@kingkazerous80x58 3 жыл бұрын
Triple h is trash
@jayrulez7808
@jayrulez7808 2 жыл бұрын
More like Hogan vs Austin Goldberg vs Lesnar Booker T vs The Rock Sting vs The Undertaker Scott Hall vs Shawn Michaels
@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954
@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954 2 жыл бұрын
Some of them happened. I'd say Austin vs Goldberg The Rock vs The People's Champion Diamond Dallas Page DDP Steiner Brothers vs the Brothers of Destruction Sting vs Mick Foley 3 Count vs Too Cool and Rikishi
@xPadge112x
@xPadge112x 2 жыл бұрын
Batista didn't come in until the Dudleys split after Invasion. Was the Brand wars then. Reverend Dvon anyone??? OH TESTIFY!!!
@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954
@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954 2 жыл бұрын
@@xPadge112x and Lesnar also didn't arrive until 2002.
@WaterborneCamper
@WaterborneCamper 4 жыл бұрын
This could have been SOOOO much better, if they had just been a little more patient
@JM1993951
@JM1993951 4 жыл бұрын
And an invasion from a group that in kayfabe took its time to recover and get stronger before invading could’ve paid off rather than a desperate group of lower-mid card guys doing whatever they could to eat.
@trueSconox
@trueSconox 4 жыл бұрын
that had nothing to do with patience.
@Dave0G
@Dave0G 4 жыл бұрын
Or if the WWF coffers hadn't taken a $muli-million hit from the XFL failure just before, though even if he still had the money Vince might still have balked at paying a wrestler "entertainment" money.
@Rick-si1re
@Rick-si1re 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah they should have waited till 2003 when they had at least gotten Steiner and Goldberg and a few others. ..oh yeah and Flair
@maxmeza4859
@maxmeza4859 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rick-si1re 2003 was when Austin was done in the ring...Rock also went awoll to hollywood. Dumb idea
@LteasAVFC
@LteasAVFC 4 жыл бұрын
Constantly smashing out the content, and its dam good content at that.!
@tysoncarpenter8628
@tysoncarpenter8628 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah man. I completely agree!!!!! Love this content!!!!!
@Dreamerland101
@Dreamerland101 4 жыл бұрын
Smashing lol
@thomascrowley9122
@thomascrowley9122 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@thomascrowley9122
@thomascrowley9122 4 жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyDiscourse What you doing with your life?
@scottmcgeachie5146
@scottmcgeachie5146 4 жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyDiscourse I know this is a troll comment. But if this video is just up and you have a comment on it means that you are subscribed to this channel... twisted much?
@JayJay-ku8gp
@JayJay-ku8gp 4 жыл бұрын
I always wanted an R-truth vs Booker T match. The battle of the real scissors kick 🤣
@meteornome2556
@meteornome2556 4 жыл бұрын
K-Kwik at the time.
@complexfellow4961
@complexfellow4961 4 жыл бұрын
Yep to amazing athletes would have been great
@carlosmontesinos1544
@carlosmontesinos1544 4 жыл бұрын
19 years later, I still think the WWF could have make The Big Show a.k.a. The Giant join WCW. He was a Power Plant alumni and a former champion. He wasn't the biggest name, but it was a name. Who TF is Reno!?
@catguy00
@catguy00 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. The Giant joining WCW would have made more sense then Austin joining.
@deanbecenti9769
@deanbecenti9769 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated KZbin Channel definitely deserves to be bigger.
@TheSBleeder
@TheSBleeder 4 жыл бұрын
It's relatively new. It will pick up.
@orangeoctober.
@orangeoctober. 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being in middle school during the Monday Night Wars era and my and my friends would talk about the hypothetical WWF vs WCW dream match ups we wished we could see like Sting vs The Undertaker, Sting vs Mankind, Goldberg vs Steve Austin, The Outsiders vs HHH/Shawn Michaels, The Rock vs Diamond Dallas Page, Harlem Heat vs The New Age Outlaws, Eric Bischoff vs Mr. McMahon, etc. If the actual merger angle had like even 2 of those matches at the time, it could have been incredible. I understand why it didn't happen at the time, but as mentioned in the video they should have waited a bit longer to try and get some of the actual WCW stars. Like Paul Heyman said, the WCW invasion roster was like something you'd see on a watered down version of Thunder. Also, making Stephanie the storyline CEO of ECW was just a slap in the face to the ECW brand and its fans. She was the total opposite of everything ECW was supposed to be.
@kman215
@kman215 4 жыл бұрын
Invasion storyline was just Vince making fun of wcw
@Macabre124
@Macabre124 4 жыл бұрын
tHere's many ulterior motives behind that storyline lol...that's one of them. Thats why many jsut stayed at home and collected checks
@jimbowers1693
@jimbowers1693 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I've witnessed this channel growing, it really is a part of my weekly schedule
@TheAutistWhisperer
@TheAutistWhisperer 4 жыл бұрын
It could've been so much better.
@tjsdrums4977
@tjsdrums4977 4 жыл бұрын
I do agree the invasion was trash but you couldn’t expect them to wait 1-3 years for the contracts to expire and then do the invasion angle.. Goldberg didn’t come until 2003
@hughmungus4761
@hughmungus4761 2 жыл бұрын
BS he wound up acquiring NWO in early 02 anyway, so what? That's less than a year.
@CanonGames
@CanonGames 2 жыл бұрын
A true WCW/ECW Invasion against WWF/E should have been: Team WWF 1 VS WCW Stone Cold Steve Austin The Rock The Undertaker Shawn Michaels Mick Foley VS. Hollywood Hulk Hogan Kevin Nash Scott Hall Goldberg Sting Team WWF 2 VS ECW HHH Kane Kurt Angle Chris Jericho Chris Benoit VS. Rob Van Dam Sand Man Sabu Tommy Dreamer Tazz Also, a good DX VS. NWO Angle would have been great.
@jme1905
@jme1905 4 жыл бұрын
We need that La Park bio maaaaaaan!!!
@reggie3819
@reggie3819 4 жыл бұрын
Your channel is amazing, it's been a good 6 months seeing it
@thecaptain0000
@thecaptain0000 4 жыл бұрын
Reliving this is awesome thank you
@KaiMoya420
@KaiMoya420 4 жыл бұрын
It's crazy to see guys like Undertaker RTruth and Edge perform in 2020.
@samuricexful
@samuricexful 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they could go back in time and do it right with the nWo, Sting, Flair, etc. with Bischoff leading instead of Shane/Stephanie.
@BlackburnBigdragon
@BlackburnBigdragon 4 жыл бұрын
I was a die hard WWF fan back then and I remember getting VERY bored by this invasion angle. The problem was that I didn't watch WCW and found it boring, and my local TV company didn't carry the network that ECW was on, so I was never exposed to that either. So we had my favorite, and only wrestling show suddenly bursting at the seams with, and devoting all this time to wrestlers who I had no clue who they were, and just... wasn't interested in at the time. This storyline just sort of... assumed that you knew who everyone was, and didn't do any character building to really show fans like these who these guys were. There wasn't time. As far as I remember, it was all these bland guys coming in and attacking the WWF guys with barely any introductions, just assuming that we all knew who they were, or that we would be interested in them. If they had brought in the big, well known guys, a fan like me would have been entertained. But it was "Parade of B and C listers". I remember Raw and Smackdown becoming a slog for the most part, for me, around this time period. It was this angle that kind of caused me to lose interest in wrestling for quite a long time.
@williamthompson5504
@williamthompson5504 Жыл бұрын
Booker T still has a WWE job. So he made the right business call.
@johnnytyrrell7060
@johnnytyrrell7060 4 жыл бұрын
Here in Dublin IRELAND we did not get W,C,W we only got the W,W,F back then so when this all went down I had no idea who any of the W, C,W wrestler's where just the ones that had been in WWF I had a clue about.
@JesusSaves80
@JesusSaves80 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@TroubleZxHCT
@TroubleZxHCT 4 жыл бұрын
Great as always , ready for pt 2
@Ruthless_Robbery
@Ruthless_Robbery 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched since Stone Cold retired in 2003, will only return if they bring back attitude era content.
@markh8713
@markh8713 4 жыл бұрын
Disagree with waiting to do the invasion. Look at how many guys fizzled out quickly once they came over. Nash kept getting injured, hall was in his own personal problems, Goldberg thought he should beat everybody, Scott Steiner couldnt jump off the ring apron to do a basic move. These guys proved how much they couldn't go anymore.
@DDWES
@DDWES 3 жыл бұрын
I do wonder if Vinces thinking was we've got some mid carders we can milk for 12 months or so and then dump them to make room for the bigger WCW stars who would have to negotiate contracts with the only real player in town.
@DDWES
@DDWES 3 жыл бұрын
That said when you look at the PPV main event and compare the two teams.....
@DjTractus
@DjTractus 4 жыл бұрын
And apologies for multiple posts but even if they waited on Nitro till Atlanta it probably would've presented a false sense of security. They get cheered in Atlanta but get the Tacoma reaction everywhere else. It says alot too that ECW's addition got a better reaction than WCW
@manuelchavarria
@manuelchavarria 4 жыл бұрын
The entire invasion boiling down to more McMahon family drama was appalling (if entirely expected), but I always did like the WCW logo they came up with. Not as good as the classic, but definitely better than that weird-looking silver and black thing WCW was using it's last couple years.
@FaysalIsGoated
@FaysalIsGoated 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who actually enjoyed the Alliance Storyline?
@Coldstone47034
@Coldstone47034 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Was well spoken & much truth behind it. Thank you
@petertr2000
@petertr2000 4 жыл бұрын
But how do you keep the interest between the last ever Nitro and 1-2 years later when there is an invasion? The angle was hot right there and then, not ages later.
@jamalsg44ja
@jamalsg44ja 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Heyman literally what said what I’ve been saying for years lol. The key guys weren’t there and Vince was too impatient to give it time..... Had he been patient it would’ve been the greatest storyline ever 🤦🏾‍♂️
@walker1984
@walker1984 3 жыл бұрын
Politics would still have gotten in the way. WWE guys were not going to put feelings aside to job to perceived WCW guys for the good of the business. The boys in the back just couldn't see the big picture. Instead, what they saw was why am I laying down for a 2nd or 3rd rate wrestler from a company that went under.
@alexmarquez9639
@alexmarquez9639 3 жыл бұрын
@@walker1984 ok and what is their choice? They do what they're told or they can go. This whole inmates running the asylum thing seemed to start around the wcw purchase. I would have had one of my "big names" particularly that overrated third stringer Triple H whom I would have jobbed to Booker! If I'm Vince I set the precedent "you refuse a job we will fire you or bret hart you. Nobody is bigger than this company especially you triple h you've never been a proven draw without mick Foley or rock or austin around you and booker t and scott Steiner have proven they can draw working with that nobody jeff Jarrett.. You do the job or you can pack your bags"
@DoubleDash28
@DoubleDash28 2 жыл бұрын
Paul Heyman sniffs poo poo from butt 💨💨💨💨😶‍🌫️
@Boygonebad
@Boygonebad 2 жыл бұрын
The angle was still hot with the guys they had. Vince and company just jobbed out the WCW guys and made it a McMahon family feud AGAIN. Only RVD and Booker survived WWE stupid ass invasion booking.
@munchenonyou3774
@munchenonyou3774 Жыл бұрын
​@@alexmarquez9639theres a difference between losing for the good of a storyline and jobbing
@criminalmindsgirl2936
@criminalmindsgirl2936 4 жыл бұрын
The Invasion was the end of the Attitude Era.
@JohnHillEU
@JohnHillEU 4 жыл бұрын
Early Invasion time was when I stopped watching personally
@leonarddillon256
@leonarddillon256 4 жыл бұрын
I actually believe that Wrestlemania X7 is the end of the Attitude. The moment Stone Cold became heel, the momentum was over. And seeing Austin in 2001 turn babyface & then back as a heel again for this Invasion Angle, could never bring back WWE’s peak ever again
@JAIMEGARCIA-gw9re
@JAIMEGARCIA-gw9re 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I remember when I was a kid watching the invasion, and just seeing how the WWF was not the same anymore. I saw how the storylines declined and the overall product just started going downhill from there.
@JAIMEGARCIA-gw9re
@JAIMEGARCIA-gw9re 3 жыл бұрын
@@leonarddillon256 I was never a fan of the "What!?" Stone Cold Steve Austin or Heel for that matter. He was so good when he was just the ass whippin Texas rattlesnake.
@maxmeza4859
@maxmeza4859 3 жыл бұрын
the draft was the end of the Attitude ERa
@outlawrip-offartist4161
@outlawrip-offartist4161 4 жыл бұрын
Earl Hebner versus Nick Patrick is one of the greatest matches of all time.
@d941997
@d941997 4 жыл бұрын
That match was hilarious.
@thecoolkids2443
@thecoolkids2443 3 жыл бұрын
You must have missed Trish & Lita vs. Torrie and Stacie.
@ryanhatch8033
@ryanhatch8033 3 жыл бұрын
This Austin heel turn sealed the deal of the best of times.. this storyline could have save Wrestlemania X7s Heel turn.. that was the dagger, the Invasion to Austin turning heel once more too much
@pizzahighfive2612
@pizzahighfive2612 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhatch8033 They f'n trolled us with him turning face for like a week then turning back heel
@realife1542
@realife1542 Ай бұрын
Bro as a kid I hated Nick Patrick so much lmao
@S0METHINGWILD88
@S0METHINGWILD88 4 жыл бұрын
They turned a potentially golden storyline into another McMahon self-indulgence rush.
@jodistotts-massy840
@jodistotts-massy840 4 жыл бұрын
It's something that will never get to see ever in this lifetime because Vince McMahon was too impatient
@lutherheggs451
@lutherheggs451 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah no LMFAO...They weren't going to pay the contracts of the top guys whos contracts were owned by AOL/Time Warner....They did what they could do with what they had...Nobody with a brain would be paying millions upon millions to get the tip top guys....
@ahmadceasar5484
@ahmadceasar5484 3 жыл бұрын
@@lutherheggs451 how come he won't he does it now with Brock he's been doing it for years he was just selfish
@SouthEastSD619
@SouthEastSD619 3 жыл бұрын
This storyline could have been huge. It could have dragged on for a while. I still to this day feel cheated out of it.
@kellylynn2584
@kellylynn2584 3 жыл бұрын
@@SouthEastSD619 I agree with you
@igorivanov299
@igorivanov299 4 жыл бұрын
The word "Invasion" should never be associated with this angle. Jobber and mid-card talent hoping to have jobs, while Vince squats and takes a massive dumb over the wCw and ECW brands angle. Not as catchy but way more accurate.
@Rick-si1re
@Rick-si1re 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, even if just unconsciously, Vince was going to make his brand look superior, the real "War" that happened between the brands in the mid to late 90s was real and Bischoff (who come to think of it SHOULD have been there to head up the WCW part!) almost put McMahon out of business. I mean I know that McMahon still probably held a grudge over them because of that. Another thing I think was really stupid is why did "Team WWF" have Chris Jericho on it, shouldn't he have defected to the WCW or something, that was dumb and it would have made more sense to have him be on team WCW since they were lacking star power any way!
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 4 жыл бұрын
That is true. Chris was beginning to turn heel so it would have made sense for him to join the Alliance. Made more sense than Stone Cold
@CujoKelly
@CujoKelly 4 жыл бұрын
I think in this case either word actually works great.
@greenmanjph
@greenmanjph 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinlee9929 Count me in with those people. I was a loyal wrestling fan from 1983, and became a Hulkamanic after he defeated the Iron Sheik in '84. I loved switching between WWF and WCW during the Monday night wars, seeing who jumped ship to the competition, and my wife even bought me shares of WWF stock for my birthday when they went public. Unfortunately, I saw the WWF get too big for their britches and steady go downhill after the purchase and terrible "invasion" angle. In the end I haven't watched WWF programming since the early 2000s. Such a shame.
@jasonmatthews4449
@jasonmatthews4449 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinlee9929 are you serious? But that was back in the day like 04-05 I was like 7 and Eddie Guerrero vs Chris benoit storyline was great amongst other storylines.
@BlackFlash7
@BlackFlash7 4 жыл бұрын
There's a reason why CM Punk said Vince is a millionaire that should be a billionaire 🙄
@shigekai6391
@shigekai6391 4 жыл бұрын
They honestly could've used ppl like Raven and RVD In bigger roles but they we're reduced to Hardcore Title and raven was reduced to Heat, Raven was perfect he was a big deal in both ECW and WCW.
@alexmarquez9639
@alexmarquez9639 3 жыл бұрын
Hey at least RVD was in main events and big angles... raven was a waste.
@ThisNachoFriend
@ThisNachoFriend 2 жыл бұрын
Vinces ego is so big that he couldn't stand to put any talent over that he himself didn't create. I know he was a great businessman but I can't help but think the WWE could be alot bigger if someone else was at the reigns. It's not a coincidence that every single one of Vinces business ventures outside of wrestling have failed dismally.
@hootie34667
@hootie34667 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest "What if" ever in wrestling.
@yashbspianoandcompositions1042
@yashbspianoandcompositions1042 3 жыл бұрын
For me the biggest "what if" would be WCW pay per view 2001 "the Big Bang"
@delcodel6835
@delcodel6835 3 жыл бұрын
No, that belongs to the: What if Mark Henry’s hand baby survived?????
@KoToCoNDoR
@KoToCoNDoR 3 жыл бұрын
@@delcodel6835 it did, it showed up in one of the raw anniversary episode last years, as a grown young boy
@Ginga
@Ginga 3 жыл бұрын
It could have been handled so much better.
@charlesalexander560
@charlesalexander560 3 жыл бұрын
What if Head actually talks to Al Snow 🤔
@jeremywilliams5141
@jeremywilliams5141 4 жыл бұрын
If there was one thing that ruined the Invasion storyline, it was Vince McMahon's ego. I think we can concur with that fact.
@xlixity
@xlixity 4 жыл бұрын
In the end, BookerT got way more out of signing immediately with the WWF than by sitting out his contract. The hustle paid off.
@blackpanzerkampfwagen8514
@blackpanzerkampfwagen8514 3 жыл бұрын
Yea Tru that...I can see it..It really does..
@iammaximumstupied
@iammaximumstupied 3 жыл бұрын
Plus he didn't have much of an ego. Sting is the only other person I believe didn't sign just because of the treatment. I feel if book was treated better he would have gone in.
@Chukijay
@Chukijay 3 жыл бұрын
It was a reward for his efforts. Vince has his head a hundred feet up his own ass but he acknowledges hard work and rewards it.
@ShawnKavanagh
@ShawnKavanagh 2 жыл бұрын
"Hey Vince, you'll never believe where I'm at.." :P
@WillsonT011
@WillsonT011 Жыл бұрын
@@Chukijay that sounds nice but let's not act like Booker T was given a high push right away😐 it still took years for him to get his respect and even then it wasn't until he became King Book-Ahh
@thetruej7872
@thetruej7872 4 жыл бұрын
WWE vs WCW in the game, WWE 12 was better than the actual thing.
@TruthWarriorB88
@TruthWarriorB88 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah. 💯
@edgameplays5066
@edgameplays5066 4 жыл бұрын
That is a fact.
@Rick-si1re
@Rick-si1re 4 жыл бұрын
Yep that and too many backstage brawls and handicap matches.
@diqflip205
@diqflip205 4 жыл бұрын
Rick I hated having to fight Vader and Booker T like 7 times
@timbartschwolfman
@timbartschwolfman 4 жыл бұрын
True
@NaZtRdAmUs
@NaZtRdAmUs 4 жыл бұрын
The WcW/EcW "invasion" was the biggest waste of talent ever all we got was Vince putting over WWE again and again.
@My19812011
@My19812011 4 жыл бұрын
And it’s been going on now for nearly 20 years, Vince still to this day buries WCW as much as possible
@spookerredmenace3950
@spookerredmenace3950 4 жыл бұрын
@@My19812011 he does it to NXT stars as well
@SpeedChamp467
@SpeedChamp467 4 жыл бұрын
it still to this day boggles the mind to think what if Shane took over instead of Stephanie? If the Alliance won he could have turned the whole WWE into a WCW kind of company being advised by Paul Heyman and Eric Bischoff. The fans would have loved it and it would have been an amazing end to Shane's feud with Vince.
@SpeedChamp467
@SpeedChamp467 4 жыл бұрын
@Misguided Angel Most of the guys you mentioned had a lot of potential and more years in the business than you even know about. And that wasn't even the point. Did you even read my post? Clearly not.
@AJ-dx6bn
@AJ-dx6bn 3 жыл бұрын
Yea just dump those wwe talent to aew and get overpushed then jobbed
@mrblonde609
@mrblonde609 4 жыл бұрын
Fans: We want WCW. We want Sting, Flair, Nash, Hogan etc. Vince McMahon: We have WCW at home.
@bpo1975
@bpo1975 4 жыл бұрын
Vince: You get to watch me feud with Shane and Stephanie.
@cjvaye99
@cjvaye99 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the raw after king of the ring Edge vs Billy Gunn. Billy hit a jackhammer on Edge and the crow started chanting for Goldberg. Also I forget which Raw but during one of Shane and Stephanie's many long winded rambling alliance promos on Raw you could hear the crowd chanting "we want Sting" lmao
@calvinwright2214
@calvinwright2214 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@jasonwilliams5550
@jasonwilliams5550 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@philiptucker7590
@philiptucker7590 2 жыл бұрын
Me and my friends actually like WCW at joke 🥴
@petenojd
@petenojd 4 жыл бұрын
A few thoughts: 1. As per usual, great video man. I look for your content weekly. 2. Re Booker: the more I learn about this guy (and watch back his matches/promos), the more I like him. Taking the risk to join the WWE early was a good one to take, even if the WWE didn't give him the push they should have. 3. On Waiting for the stars to push the Invasion angle: I think that would have run the risk of the interest fizzling out. A year is a long time to wait when everyone is expecting the angle. There's something to be said for striking when the iron is hot. I think it was a lose/lose situation for the WWE. That said, 4. Burying guys like DDP, who was one of a very few legit stars in WCW who made the move was nothing more than the WWE shooting itself in the foot. I also agree that having Stephanie "own" ECW didn't make any sense. 5. I'm looking forward to Part 2!
@BronzeAgeBryon
@BronzeAgeBryon 4 жыл бұрын
Let's say the example is ball park accurate: Vince won't pay Goldberg $$ in his prime, but rather overpay him in 2019 when he was just a shell of his former self.
@Coldstone47034
@Coldstone47034 4 жыл бұрын
Goldberg to me was just an entrance & a cool spear. I only respected the Jackhammer when he used it on guys as big as the Giant or Reese
@showtimesportsmedia6906
@showtimesportsmedia6906 4 жыл бұрын
He got him still kinda in his prime in 03
@showtimesportsmedia6906
@showtimesportsmedia6906 4 жыл бұрын
@@Coldstone47034 yeah but he really should've been treated better the first time around. But old trips just had to have his way. They killed him after the rock died once he lost the chamber match
@BrentWoodSean38
@BrentWoodSean38 4 жыл бұрын
Showtime Sports Media The guy only had a 1 year contract
@anthonyanderson9303
@anthonyanderson9303 4 жыл бұрын
@@showtimesportsmedia6906 the problem was Goldberg got exposed. He wasn't able to have a WWF style main event match. He wasn't going to be allowed to just come in and squash top guys in 2 minutes. Having said that he still ran through everyone except HHH and even then look how strong Goldberg was at the elimination chamber. He destroyed Jericho and HBk and it took all of evolution to beat him.
@tangoplays2547
@tangoplays2547 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a standalone Booker T vid, was always a fan of his, especially when he started flying solo.
@josamaroo
@josamaroo 4 жыл бұрын
The best thing that happened during the Invasion Angle was when Stone Cold gave Kurt Angle that tiny cowboy hat, and I'm not even sure if that happened during the actual Invasion. Proves how crappy it was.
@scottodrowsky9835
@scottodrowsky9835 4 жыл бұрын
Blame Stasiak! "WCW Thunder vs the rest of the WWF." Never looked at it that way before!
@tonytom5242
@tonytom5242 3 жыл бұрын
I will say Booker T made a good career move and made more money long term and proving his talent over and over to WWE....as a kid I was a WWF vs WCW guy and Booker T quickly became one of my favs
@Jimmy_Hopkins15
@Jimmy_Hopkins15 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the Invasion storyline could of been better if they added Sting Goldberg and Nash and Hogan for WCW and if HHH didnt get injured
@ShaunInce123
@ShaunInce123 4 жыл бұрын
This angle could have gone better if they had waited a year.
@MN_2003
@MN_2003 4 жыл бұрын
If only you were there in that room with all those dumb brains 😒
@23and0
@23and0 4 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't have mattered if all the top talent like sting and Goldberg came over too. Vince woukd have squashed them anyway. Look what he done to DDP and booker T
@maxmeza4859
@maxmeza4859 3 жыл бұрын
@@MN_2003 If they waited a year, Austin's health was declining and Rock was off to Hollywood. Terrible idea, kid
@maxmeza4859
@maxmeza4859 3 жыл бұрын
@@23and0 Uh yes it wouldve,kid. If WCW top guys came over, it wouldve been more convincing. Goldberg and STing are way above DDP and Booker T
@maxmeza4859
@maxmeza4859 3 жыл бұрын
@@Robman0908 "This", what? Youre saying it WWF was able to get the nWo, Sting, Goldberg, Flair, Savage,Luger,etc to join DDP and Booker T, they wouldve been "squashed like jobbers"? lmao, youre an idiot
@superrobz
@superrobz 4 жыл бұрын
There’s many things that bother me about this train wreck of an angle, but seeing Rock say “who are you?” and seeing Austin stomp Taz like he was a jobber was enough to make me done with it
@TheSBleeder
@TheSBleeder 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Undertaker saying that DDP "isn't famous because he sucks). And then beating him around like a jobber at King of the Ring.
@superrobz
@superrobz 4 жыл бұрын
TheSBleeder that too
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 4 жыл бұрын
DDP got it worse. He went from a main event star in WCW to a jobber in WWE. Vince just would not let his pettiness go.
@JM1993951
@JM1993951 4 жыл бұрын
Razz was ruined in the WWF by mid 2000.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 4 жыл бұрын
If you mean Taz than yes,I agree. He was ruined by mid 2000.
@outspokengaming8850
@outspokengaming8850 4 жыл бұрын
Vince wanted to destroy wcw that is the main reason why he didn’t wait for the bigger talent he wanted to make sure nobody would want anything to do with the wcw again and I think it worked
@rx_jaydot7532
@rx_jaydot7532 3 жыл бұрын
That maybe true but Vince also loves success and this story line would've could've been wayy better
@rodgerjackson1368
@rodgerjackson1368 3 жыл бұрын
now they all going to AEw
@roodypoochrisw
@roodypoochrisw 4 жыл бұрын
The Invasion was terrible, it was the beginning of the downfall of WWF
@TheSBleeder
@TheSBleeder 4 жыл бұрын
Nah. Making YOU the WWE Champion ruined the company.
@roodypoochrisw
@roodypoochrisw 4 жыл бұрын
Саша I liked 2003 that’s it, 2002 wasn’t that great, the NWO invasion was terrible, and they lost all their major baby faces by the end of the year. 2003 was great with Stone Cold and Rock returning
@TheKiid810
@TheKiid810 4 жыл бұрын
Саша best years? Maybe in wwe but damn sure not wwf lol
@NitroNEXT
@NitroNEXT 4 жыл бұрын
​@@roodypoochrisw Triple H & HBK in 02 made that year memorable for me, as was Lesnar's push & the dynamic of the brand split, and introductions of rookies that actually went somewhere (Lesnar, Orton, Cena, Batista). I actually prefer much of it to 2001 which felt more like a stale version of the Attitude era for me. They really did drop the ball with the nWo 2.0 though, but Bischoff as GM was great.
@roodypoochrisw
@roodypoochrisw 4 жыл бұрын
@@NitroNEXT Well yeah I agree it was much better than 2001, and I also really liked the HHH vs HBK fued, but other than that, it was pretty lame. Triple H and Chris Jericho had a terrible rivalry, Hogan became champ (I dont like the idea of super old superstars winning champions), and Rock and Austin were gone by the end of the year leaving us with Lesnar as the top star who wasnt that great in my personal opinion.
@nickneurohr5422
@nickneurohr5422 4 жыл бұрын
You just keep coming up with the best content when it comes to Wrestling. I'm glad to see you put so much time, passion and effort into your channel my dude.
@aznpikachu215
@aznpikachu215 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly feel that it was a good idea. It was just due to egos, impatience, and executed poorly on the WWE's part. It could have been the biggest, but McMahon just choked on this clutch idea.
@leonarddillon256
@leonarddillon256 4 жыл бұрын
0:17 Lol Hearing Vince McMahon’s theme at the beginning is a suitable start to show that Invasion Angle wasn’t about WCW/ECW vs WWF, but instead another McMahon family feud. 😂
@dmaster5556
@dmaster5556 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO that shot of Vince at 18:41 perfectly describes the whole Invasion in a nutshell
@darrylskylar8757
@darrylskylar8757 2 жыл бұрын
McMahon’s ego is way too big not to put himself front and center in the Invasion storyline.
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 4 жыл бұрын
When Shane announced on that last WCW nitro that he had bought WCW and had beaten Vince to the punch in buying them, the reaction was absolutely brilliant. Especially by Vince. Unfortunately it was all downhill after that. One of the biggest missed opportunities ever by the WWF. If they had either waited for the big stars or even bought out their time Warner contracts they would have had a great storyline for a year or more. They could have struck gold. That they didn’t was down to the impatience of the WWF management.
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 4 жыл бұрын
Misguided Angel should have bought out their contracts then. That would have guaranteed brilliant storylines.
@edgameplays5066
@edgameplays5066 4 жыл бұрын
Stephanie Mchman as the owner of ECW,was too far.
@RetroHabit82
@RetroHabit82 4 жыл бұрын
We wanted Hogan, Nash and Goldberg but we got Palumbo, Helms and Stasiak
@FunkSwaggMusiK
@FunkSwaggMusiK 4 жыл бұрын
Way to go Staziak🤦🏻‍♂️
@westgirl7522
@westgirl7522 4 жыл бұрын
He was well buried after that.
@Antlion161
@Antlion161 4 жыл бұрын
How about covering the original ECW Invasion to the WWF in 96-97? It's not talked about enough imo
@jonhenning
@jonhenning 4 жыл бұрын
WCW invastin was a waste. Changing the logo was weird too. The only good thing to come from it was Booker T
@christopherray6370
@christopherray6370 4 жыл бұрын
Wish Sting was apart of this angle. Even wish Bret Hart would have been forced to have came back to WWF.
@Dr._P._Enis
@Dr._P._Enis 4 жыл бұрын
Bret Harts Career was over at this time, kiddy
@WarhawkBeyond2040
@WarhawkBeyond2040 4 жыл бұрын
Aside from all of the great matches that came out of this, the entire so called invasion angle was a complete disaster and became all about the Mcmahons again The WCW / ECW alliance may have won a few big matches here and there but they were mostly booked to look completely weak, to make matters worse WWF wrestlers started "jumping ship" to join the enemy's side including their biggest star Stone Cold which was completely stupid. By the time we got to Survivor Series, it was mostly WWF vs WWF with 1 ECW guy and 1 WCW guy. What hurt a lot of this was we didn't have any of the big names like Goldberg, Sting and the NWO. If Vince waited until 2002 or 2003 when we had these guys in the company then they could have done the invasion angle and it would have worked out so much better than the car crash we got instead. We could have had tons of dream matches and it is such a shame that things didn't work out well because with time, care and good booking, this could have done huge business but sadly it is what it is.
@swan-senpai
@swan-senpai 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the Invasion, I never watch WCW so didn't know who I was missing out on, I just knew this was another company of new guys coming in and taking over, it was exciting, I'd never heard of Nash, Hogan, Goldberg, Flair etc. so I didn't know these invaders weren't "top" guys.
@Vinitroy2016
@Vinitroy2016 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't watched either
@poindextersheelturn436
@poindextersheelturn436 4 жыл бұрын
The invasion sucked to be honest. Seem to be something they through together and hoping everyone would fall in love with it. I didnt.
@AJ-dx6bn
@AJ-dx6bn 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah just you
@sephiroth0185
@sephiroth0185 3 жыл бұрын
@@AJ-dx6bn he's not alone
@theonewhowokeup9987
@theonewhowokeup9987 4 жыл бұрын
That invasion angle was all messed up should've waited till the contract issues was solved.
@MikeWazOcka
@MikeWazOcka 4 жыл бұрын
the scissor kick that Booker T hit on Vince was the absolute best!
@hooksncrosses3419
@hooksncrosses3419 4 жыл бұрын
I remember being so excited about the invasion. I watched the invasion PPV and as the show went on, I got more and more fed up with it. The main events conclusion made me go "oh, come on!"🤦‍♂️😂😂
@chrisbillups3632
@chrisbillups3632 4 жыл бұрын
DDP had a major pop when he showed up, just to get buried like he did...
@anthonyanderson9303
@anthonyanderson9303 4 жыл бұрын
I believe they jumped the gun on the angle cuz the roster was being spread thin by mid 2001. HHH and Benoit were out with injuries, Rock was gone making a movie, they were running out of bodies and thus Vince panicked a little. I will say tho, the angle did help elevate guys like Angle and Jericho to more main even level. And obviously it helped guys like Booker and RVD on the other side.
@barnabylowe1239
@barnabylowe1239 4 жыл бұрын
A complete burial from start to finish and the big stars especially Sting knew Vince holds a grudge and they would be buried immediately upon arrival in WWF.
@money345atherley2
@money345atherley2 4 жыл бұрын
@Misguided Angel have you seen how ddp was booked in the invasion storyline? it Vince McMahon after all
@money345atherley2
@money345atherley2 4 жыл бұрын
Sting should have never come to WWE
@maxmeza4859
@maxmeza4859 3 жыл бұрын
when did Sting get "buried immediately up arrival"?
@maxmeza4859
@maxmeza4859 3 жыл бұрын
@@money345atherley2 That was Undertaker who personally didnt like DDP, not Vince
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxmeza4859 He was put in a storyline where despite Sting making it clear he was there to stop The Authority abusing its power the announcers and Triple H treated it like it was a WWE vs WCW feud and that Sting was WCW's last remnant trying to "avenge" it even though in his promo Sting said that since WCW had been out of business for 13 or 14 years by that point so it'd be stupid. Then they had Sting's kayfabe worst enemies, the NWO come out to help him and the supposed "anti authority rebels" DX helping the company's COO. And instead of having Sting win like they should have Triple H won.
@ta0paipai
@ta0paipai 4 жыл бұрын
Stone Cold and RVD's interactions made it worthwhile for me. The watch segment was hilarious.
@cjvaye99
@cjvaye99 3 жыл бұрын
"raaa vaaaa daaa WHAT"
@JScribe
@JScribe 4 жыл бұрын
Great recap! The reason the WWE couldn't wait to do the invasion is the WCW brand would have been basically dead after two years of non activity. They needed to strike while it was still fresh in everyone's mind.
@slicetee3985
@slicetee3985 4 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this as a kid thinking this is one of the best things ever. Watching all those wrestlers face each other in the wwe and now realizing how much of a mess this angle was.
@Macabre124
@Macabre124 4 жыл бұрын
I know. My jaw dropped when the WCW/ECW invasion began. I was so excited then it just was a big let down. Just every match simply being interrupted
@reloadpsi
@reloadpsi 3 жыл бұрын
If Triple H hadn't spent the Invasion angle in rehab, Stephanie probably wouldn't have been made the ECW owner, but they apparently "needed" something for her to do.
@eklypised
@eklypised 4 жыл бұрын
This could have been one of the best angles ever...butttt we know how they F”d it up
@crazycarper7267
@crazycarper7267 4 жыл бұрын
Booked right it could of been the biggest wrestling event ever! (WWE title) Stone cold v Goldberg (WCW title) Jeff jarrett v HHH Hulk Hogan v The Rock (Hell In a cell) Sting v The undertaker Ric flair v mick foley Hall & Nash v edge & Christian Jeff hardy v RVD v rey mysterio Kane v Rhyno Big show v mike awesome Lance storm v Chris benoit Kurt angle v Tazz
@andrewthompson3291
@andrewthompson3291 4 жыл бұрын
That Sounds a good match card but Triple H was injured and would not come back till 2 months after the Invasion Angle
@crazycarper7267
@crazycarper7267 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewthompson3291 yes I know it's just what could of been if timed right!
@Solitude82
@Solitude82 4 жыл бұрын
Booker T got done dirty
@igorivanov299
@igorivanov299 4 жыл бұрын
"Booker T"? DDP was done dirtier
@TheSBleeder
@TheSBleeder 4 жыл бұрын
As did DDP. At least Booker T made it to Summerslam before the Rock took his WCW Championship. DDP got beaten half to death by the Undertaker at King of the Ring before the Invasion angle even officially started. That was after the Undertaker (who is my favorite wrestler ever, but this promo bothered me) said that Page "isn't famous because he sucks".
@mazzb305
@mazzb305 4 жыл бұрын
Weird that Vince and Time Warner couldn't work out some sort of deal where Vince agreed to pay a portion of the WCW's stars contracts. Would've been a win win for both sides.
@freddiejohnson6137
@freddiejohnson6137 4 жыл бұрын
For me if they had just stretched the invasion out several more months they would have had all of the top WCW guys that decided to sit out their contracts. If they had the likes of Hogan, Hall, Nash, Flair, Stiener, Rey Mysterio and Goldberg it would have made it much more worth while and the planned brand split as one being RAW and the other being Nitro would have probably worked more so if they had brought in Eric Bischoff to run it on screen like he did as GM of RAW. Then with the possibility of a third show of ECW with Paul Heyman running it on screen.
@agjptagjpta
@agjptagjpta 4 жыл бұрын
The real WCW died in March 2001😭😭😭
@teddunleavy4347
@teddunleavy4347 4 жыл бұрын
Great job as always, Bios. The completely botched Invasion angle was the start of my decline in interest in wrestling. After Katie Vick and Muhammad Hassan, I was just about done. Thanks for helping me relive the good days with your excellent videos.
@London.Bridgez
@London.Bridgez 4 жыл бұрын
Shane McMahon's jerseys were always 🔥
@RealBillyGarcia
@RealBillyGarcia 4 жыл бұрын
Vince wanted to strike while the iron was hot. If he waited a year after the WCW was bought then he would have ran the risk that the invasion angle would have never happened. There was a risk that no one would have cared at that point. So Vince moved forward with what he had. I thought that was obvious back in the day when it was happening. The biggest mistake IMO was how they booked DDP. He should have diamond cut WWF guys left and right.
@maxmeza4859
@maxmeza4859 3 жыл бұрын
Youre probably the smartest person here...Not to mention that by 2002, Austin's health was done and Hollywood was calling for The Rock...so I always LMAO when ppl are like "they shouldve waited 2 years"
@marky437
@marky437 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the Invasion and was disapponted by not seeing many of the big players of WCW but I do remember Sean O'Haire - wasted potential for a wrestler of his size, skill and speed he could of been massive.
@jb888888888
@jb888888888 4 жыл бұрын
On Stone Cold's podcast he had Buff Bagwell on talking about the Invasion, and SC said he was watching the Buff/Booker match recently (at the time of the podcast obviously) and thought it was pretty good. Then he saw Austin and Angle run in to beat up the WCW guys. Steve had no memory of doing that!
@timbartschwolfman
@timbartschwolfman 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that Mike Awesome showed up on the Raw from Madison Square Garden and won the Hardcore Title from Rhyno
@xasstoney894
@xasstoney894 4 жыл бұрын
Its sad when the TNA vs GFW Invasion was better.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 4 жыл бұрын
ROH vs CZW was better. That was a proper invasion storyline
@nightmarezer0507
@nightmarezer0507 4 жыл бұрын
I love how you say Dubya-see-Dubya. I dunno why it just sounds cool.
@richardthompson3499
@richardthompson3499 3 жыл бұрын
It’s insane how many opportunities Vince McMahon have blown
@ADAM_COLLECTS
@ADAM_COLLECTS 4 жыл бұрын
I know a guy who had a contract with WCW, a nice lucrative one. McMahon offered him 30 cents on the dollar so he could work. He, like others (Nash, Hall, Hogan, Goldberg) sat at home
@HeatseekersUK
@HeatseekersUK 4 жыл бұрын
Oooh who was it,?
@criminalmindsgirl2936
@criminalmindsgirl2936 4 жыл бұрын
The Invasion PPV would've been the best time for Austin to have turned heel. Not WrestleMania 17.
@criminalmindsgirl2936
@criminalmindsgirl2936 4 жыл бұрын
@@raidernation7427, yeah. I get that but it just would've made a better story for Austin though.
@DandamanGamingDMG
@DandamanGamingDMG 4 жыл бұрын
Who can blame the guys for wanting to sit at home and get paid? I mean their career was getting slammed around. I'd take the year off! Props to Booker T though for getting right to work and making himself extremely relevant in the WWE quickly!
@jpRetroGaming
@jpRetroGaming 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve spent the last 3 months working as a nurse on a covid + ward for the elderly. Your videos help keep me going. Cheers mate
@DuckTheHeel
@DuckTheHeel 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Stay strong brother
@jpRetroGaming
@jpRetroGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Paladino, thanks man. Stay smart, stay safe
@jamiemckell34
@jamiemckell34 3 жыл бұрын
I get why they did it... There should have been an INVASION phase 2... The next phase after Flair VS McMahon @ Royal Rumble should have been... Flair makes announcement next night that he already sold his share before the match. Vince is shocked and pissed off. Out comes Eric Bischoff who is the new 50/50 partner. Bischoff says "you thought you beat WCW, but I'm here to tell you different." He says the war has only just begun. The next week Bischoff announces the nWo will be coming in at No Way Out. The nWo come in, and try to lead a new battle VS WWE... They try and get Austin to finish what he started, they try and get RVD & Booker T back onside. From here, the story options and money drawing potential is almost unlimited.
@andrewosborne7544
@andrewosborne7544 4 жыл бұрын
When this happened I was the target age for this type of content, I was hyped, I remember switching back and forth between Raw and Nitro, Thunder and Smackdown and I thought wow now they're going to be on the same show. I remember now that the handling of this is what made me stop watching WWF content. (still don't to this day!) The part that really made me mad was the handling of DDP, turned him into a creepy stalker?? Did Vince even watch WCW content?. Great videos man!
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