The Strange Case of Chris Smith

[@reizak8966]

Imagine emailing your child for that long, being worried sick about their mental health, then finding out you weren't even emailing them, you were emailing their murderer. I feel so bad for his family and girlfriend.

[@keatonscreations]

I completely agree. The fact that he intentionally deceived them and dragged it on for so long just proves the point that this wasn’t just a guy who made a mistake. He’s an evil, heartless manipulator

[@mrt445]

I was wondering why they didn't ask for a phone call.

[@reizak8966]

@@mrt445 My mom went through a dilemma when I first moved out. I was going through a difficult time and she was terrified of being too pushy. I think they were afraid of him distancing himself.

[@drebk]

@@reizak8966 good point, but here we mean further distancing... he was many months and many miles distant

[@DAVIZZY69]

Spoiler!!! 😅😅

[@tylertheguy3160]

I wonder if Mike is ever gonna find his way out of that black void.

[@kudofan]

He's in the Televoid with Brutalmoose.

[@vikkigardner6686]

Have you seen his earlier shows? Go back a few years! You will get a kick out of the outfits!!

[@bleebleeblahblah]

You read my mind. was just thinking the same thing.

[@jenn8179]

Out of the black void...or into a new shirt? :-)

[@vernonbear]

He’s being held hostage by the real owner of That Chapter, he’s forced to record the voice overs in order to save the lives of his family. It will all be revealed in a video, the real owner is learning how to say ‘Let’s give it a goo’ and ‘Tirty Tree’ in the right accent, then Mike will disappear......

[@saintlynnie4037]

This guy is so humble, he's not even gonna act like he just hit a million subs. Lol. Congrats Mike!

[@pottymouthedplanter]

Right??? I noticed right away!! Hehehe so happy for him!!!

[@KD-kl4sx]

He hit it the other day

[@riiseprochaska]

This is why hes my absolute favorite true crime channel! Such an awesome, down to earth, normal guy

[@menufrog]

Good onya Mike

[@dorothykilgallenwasmurdere1653]

Yayyyyyyy Mike needs sponsors, and quit hitting all the skip ads so Mike gets hella money.

[@morganrichardson8859]

I can't imagine how heartbreaking it would be to think your loved one is off experiencing a once in a lifetime trip, when really they've been dead the entire time. That's crushing for me to even think about.

[@reapthewhirlwind6915]

Truly crazy

[@tinamcleod3928]

Agreed 💯 just horrific… plus how do you know this evil excuse for a human is telling lies, his lips are moving !

[@raeandringa7260]

It's so awful... I can't even imagine the pain and trauma his family still probably faces

[@tiarodri]

it's always so upsetting when the body isn't found and the murderer won't help. really blows that "nice guy, accident gone wrong" bs out the water.

[@neneshubby]

He can’t tell them where the body is. He’s still claiming he’s innocent and probably has a appeals pending and if he says where the body is he know it will blow his the line of BS right out of the water

[@elavke5441]

@@neneshubby he said he killed him.

[@ZombieMiezz]

Well as long as you don't call EMS after an accident there is no nice guy claim to begin with.

[@AlbionRising]

@@elavke5441 it does help his appeal, but if he helps find the body, they will never give him any chance to appeal.. too bad. The family should never leave him alone till he admits where the body is.

[@AlbionRising]

@@elavke5441 he says it was an accident. The body would say otherwise.

[@GIJake-oo9ir]

Someone out there right now is committing a crime that will one day land them a segment on this show.

[@Hawxxy]

Liar

[@RubyCallicoat]

It could be you! It could be me! IT COULD BE US. Serial killing spree?

[@TonyTony-zj4cn]

Exactly what I was thinking..what are odds haha, when he mentioned 2010 I remembered where I was then, and then thought maybe in future I'll be like this shit happened that day in January when I was watching this.. Lol

[@MurderusWayz]

When the judge asks why you did it.....well honestly your honor I'm just hoping my crime spree was good enough to get me an episode on That Chapter. You know of Mike? Go SUB! 🤣

[@WobblesandBean]

......Whoa.

[@boopah4365]

Hearing him say those things about Chris while he's on the stand about it being self defense knowing that Chris can't defend himself is making my blood boil..

[@CovidConQuitTheCensorship]

Yeah me too. What a scumbag

[@hopedontmope4999]

Some places have a law that says you have to be allowed to face your accusers. Watch a recent documentary called "The case died with her" i think it's just about to be released or recently was. Very sad story about what happens when someone can not face their accusers.

[@InshasChoice]

If I were his family, I'd be beyond fuming. Omg, he's full of sh*t and even his ownself isn't buying the BS

[@etl2993]

At least he got life in prison. I hope he was sued too.

[@pjhoody]

That was some bad acting too

[@joebrito3192]

why do they think killing someone is going to make their problems disappear?

[@agirlisnoone5953]

Sometimes it does work, i bet

[@realeques]

i mean in the cases we don't hear about it kinda does aye ?

[@teressarayfield2943]

They don’t think is the problem just a bunch of punks with no brain

[@mortalgod9009]

every year over 50 million women kill their own unborn children with the same mindset. Ask them!

[@ghostofsparta2272]

It would have worked for him if he'd have put as much effort in to cleaning the office as he did in killing the poor guy and disappearing his body

[@alolanraichu9034]

So Chris and Ed were close enough that Ed knew the answers to the personal questions Chris's dad asked "Chris" to determine his identity. That adds a layer of sadness to the story. Chris must have trusted Ed a lot.

[@kingsarues1586]

Ed probably hired a PI to find the information about Chris in advance to the murder

[@agentstepp]

Nah, you guys are overthinking it, the guy knew his brother...in fact if I heard it right he was his boss? If so then he likely casually dig for info from him for any questions he didn’t know.

[@sarahweaver8879]

Omg I just asked that question haha...

[@sarahweaver8879]

I was thinking maybe Chris had a journal somewhere that Ed studied knowing he would be emailing his family idk.

[@garpikemike1]

Or he had him at gunpoint or smth

[@Emogurl200]

I do know who's emailing me, he's an African Prince and he wants to share his fortune with me.

[@amazingsupergirl7125]

Lucky you.

[@rustinstardust2094]

When my dad was still fairly new to the internet, he received an email from a longtime client, saying that she was on vacation in Egypt but had lost all her money and passport, and was being hassled by Egyptian authorities. He raced down to Western Union to send her money, and it was there that they had to explain to him that he was being scammed. But such a great heart!

[@annehorrigan570]

@@rustinstardust2094 Thank goodness for those folks watching out for your dad...👍

[@annehorrigan570]

As soon as you send him a small payment to gain release of his kidnapped relative....😆

[@nicolemilley8251]

cool me too but my prince is from nigeria and hes filthy rich i just had to send him 10 000 so he could pay his lawyers,im just waiting for him to email me back so i can give him my bank info and he is going to send me 20 000.imagine how lucky i am. he has very slow internet,so i should hear from anyday now!!! i just cant believe my luck he picked me!!!

[@DrPhil-kx3ci]

“ He lunged at me like a LineBacker. “ - Jodi Arias & Ed Shin

[@unlitsole6002]

my comment was deleted...how unfortunate.

[@amazingsupergirl7125]

And both sit in prison 😅

[@sterlings5893]

🤣👏🏼

[@unlitsole6002]

I want you to be my father, Phil 😳💗

[@unlitsole6002]

@@DrPhil-kx3ci okay 😭💗

[@jessymoore8868]

It is fate that his brother ran into the "new gf" on a random trip. What's that saying.. The World is So SMALL

[@TawnyC_]

"It's a small world." When stuff like that happens.

[@PiXie232]

Right?! One wonders how much longer that piece of sh*t would’ve continued to get away with it, had his brother not ran into her that day. Crazy.. there was definitely some sort of higher powers guiding people’s actions that day. Such a devastatingly sad case. He seemed like such a good soul..

[@TeviaRocks]

Yet, I’ve never run into Sting. ❤️

[@karenhetherington1989]

More like Divine intervention.

[@Za7a7aZ]

The world is small... and God is great...

[@keithdevlin1]

Chris Smith's friends: Know the name of a boat and lake from his childhood. *My friends: Would probably blank on my birthday and middle name* 😂

[@wildgr33n]

idk if i had a friend with a boat i might remember if it was nice enough to be one that's named lmaooo

[@maveryk]

I'd remember your middle name King

[@ih8jail]

So wait, how did Ed get the answer? I was thinking he kept Chris alive temporarily.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@ih8jail That is my biggest issue with the story as well… Mike never told us how Ed knew the answers to those personal questions. I totally thought that Chris was being kept hostage because the answers were accurate. The other issue I have with the story is whatever happened to our right to a fair and speedy trial in this country?? Mike stated that Ed’s trial didn’t begin until _SEVEN YEARS_ after he was initially arrested for the crime. What in the hell?!

[@quickchris10]

​Apparently, Chris talked about the lake and the boat. His da shoulda asked tougher questions; ``what was your favorite toy,'' ``what age did you complete potty training . . .''

[@jaday7282]

"I think he hit me or something" ... "I think he took a couple of steps and that's when he fell".. Wow, highly convincing statements!

[@katybug6572]

Lol I know right?! Like wtf who would believe a fight even went down like that- esp one where the other dude gets killed lol so ridic it’s comical 😂 what a moron.

[@SomeBlackGuy]

Congrats on 1 million bruv!

[@gabbiehannahsmentalbreakdo3887]

Mikes awesome!!!!♥

[@3SIXTYPROD]

My man glad to see ya over here

[@jgicci4897]

I’ll show u a bruv

[@alexandralopezvera5724]

Go go Mike!!

[@emilinebelle7811]

Bruv? The heck is that?

[@logicn.reasoning9744]

I'm dying to know how Shin was able to answer the personal questions the father asked.

[@azurecielo52479]

“I just sent him a question. I said, ‘Chris-- what lake do we live on? And what type of boat do we have?’ Just trying to confirm what I knew. And it took a while to get the emails back,” Steve Smith told “20/20.” “But he confirmed one of them. He said, ‘Yeah, we live on Kelly Lake.’ It just kind of solidified for me that he was Chris.”

[@daughertyjack1]

Man, I was wondering how he answered the father’s questions too!

[@quinnk5737]

The lake happened to be the password to one of their business accounts, so my guess is that's how he knew. But I don't know how he would know the type of boat. In the 20/20 episodes, they dedicated a great deal of time talking about how Chris loved water sports so my other guess would be, the boat he used in his childhood came up in conversation with Ed Shin.

[@JJoy-bk8yr]

Shin could find the lake from looking up the addresses on emergency contacts. Chris's brother worked for Shin so Shin could have conned him into giving the info about the boat - "I've been thinking of buying a boat. Do you know anything about them?" or similar

[@TheDruDogg84]

Easy, he was connected with Paul. Paul is Chris's brother, I'm sure he knows more then what ppl think.

[@Right-laneRubberDucky]

If my parents started grilling me with security questions because they didn't believe it was me...i'd have to find a way to call them... I mean, who answers questions like that nonchalantly and just continues the voyage? They would have taken a collect call from wherever he was on the planet just to hear his voice, i'm sure!

[@Lekjih]

I'm sure, but as he was dead... 😕

[@christine2952]

Exactly mayaflynnster! The simple fact that he wasn’t calling was a major red flag!!! Anytime someone text and emails only instead of calling is a major red flag!

[@ChangGang]

Wonder how he knew the answers?

[@markmike7933]

@@ChangGang people write a lot of stuff on facebook. i'm sure it wasn't an instant reply. And possibly in conversation with his partner they talked about their pasts. Just some guesses :)

[@bleachboys3623]

@@ChangGang Ed Shin is a Chinese mystic specializing in dark magic. He had access to Chris’s blood and could easily perform what they call ‘origami of the black dragon’ to commune with Chris from beyond the dead. Posing as someone else, Shin got the information from Chris who would be happy to hear another voice.

[@omgurheadsgone]

Let’s give it a gooooo

[@Bidens_Diaper]

So much goooo

[@Betty-qd8st]

Lol. I heard another utuber say that and yup, I know where they got it from😂

[@katc6880]

@@Betty-qd8st to be fair, I don't think Mike coined the phrase, but he certainly made it his own 😊

[@Gunsales1000]

Best Dub vernacular. ✌️🇮🇪

[@gooberius]

@andreiiliescu1 Well ya still get it maybe he joust wanted to say gooooooooooooooooo

[@ohkaythen93]

Gotta give this guy credit. Never in a single video, (I've been here since14k subs) has he ever asked anyone, to like comment and subscribe. Gets to a million subs, doesn't even bring it up 🤣❤️ what a legend Mike is

[@TheGauges420]

Well he has occasionally brought up 'like it if you liked it, dislike if you didn't, and comment' but I get what you mean. He is a humble creator, but at the same time, you know he KNOWS that he's good at what he does lol.

[@gabbiehannahsmentalbreakdo3887]

Ive been here since 20k and I am so proud of him♥

[@annieseaside]

It is so refreshing! We KNOW, truly we do know and yet all other channels I follow ask at least at the start or the end.

[@CJLOVE23]

I always had to have a secret code word for my mom while texting, emailing, even once when I knocked on her door and she didn’t recognize my voice. If she ever questioned if it was me contacting her, she’d say “Code word?” And I’d say it. I never ever told anyone what the word was. I’d suggest this for everyone 🥺 Most likely you’ll never need it, but it’s there for you to have a peace of mind

[@fridaytieday]

What a great idea!

[@myname5731]

Your mom had a brilliant rule to live by. All moms should follow suit.

[@dawnboese6613]

I do this with my teenage son. Thankfully we haven't needed to use it

[@patrickpelletier3104]

So what's the code word ?

[@JaredConnell]

My code word for my mom is hey mom its me. Works every time

[@theloniouszappa]

I cant believe this guy took the stand without having his story straight. At some points, he sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

[@lewiscraw8294]

someone should report the missing stand

[@KadoTheNorm]

After 7 years to think

[@theloniouszappa]

@@KadoTheNorm yea, I didnt even think about that lol

[@ProfSquarez]

Not even going to mention 1 million subs?! CONGRATULATIONS MIKE!!!

[@TheGauges420]

He may not have had 1mil when he edited this though.

[@piperjaycie]

Woohoo 🥳 😊

[@andrzejconner676]

@@TheGauges420 Hate to be "that guy" but on Wednesday (? Maybe my day is incorrect) I was rewatching the last episode and noticed he had literally just reached 1mil. So you may be correct if this video was finished before the last one was posted. But he easily could have added it. My bet is he is just that humble. Most every other content creator on youtube would have brought attention to it, but Mike seems quite modest. Just another day for him.

[@tillitsdone]

Proud to say I'm one of the first 5,000 subs. Check out some of his very first videos. It's changed quite a bit, but they're excellent.

[@kennethwalton2380]

@@tillitsdone I think he was at 100K when I found him and I binge watched till I’d watched every video I still go back and binge watch ones I’ve already seen sometimes

[@cassierhodes1191]

So sad his family will never know where his body is. That's TRULY heartbreaking. 😢

[@vnsasmlls]

yeah that's really sad ..

[@vnsasmlls]

@james Nas i really don't know .. i just think it's very hard for the parents .. knowing that his body will never be able to rest in peace. ⚰️

[@TeamBTC17]

Has anyone looked in the Lake? Other than that it’s the desert in which case it’s bones. I know serial killers tend to hold on to that kind of info but it seems somewhat pointless for Dick-Ed to not just tell them. Do you think maybe he tried to bargain with it? I’ve known families who have agreed to lesser sentences in order to get a loved one back. I lost my Dad two years ago and my mother has his ashes in the house but refuses to tell me where she keeps them. That eats away at me so I can only imagine how his family must feel. It’s the ultimate cruelty.

[@schris413]

It is possible he really did hire a fixer who wouldn't know where the body was either.

[@ct5625]

@@TeamBTC17 I checked Google Earth and there's an old cemetery **EXACTLY** where his phone pinged. I would bet that Ed felt guilty enough to bury him there, and probably knowing it would be the last place someone would actually look. I can almost guarantee none of the investigators thought to look there and it would probably be hard to establish which of those graves might be new unless they have satellite images to compare.

[@alexmilliorn8205]

Honestly, i just wanna know how ed answered the personal questions

[@OrbitalShell]

He studied and planned it very well. He kept emails going for months.

[@dondlab]

I was also waiting to hear that answer.

[@janemiettinen5176]

Ed knew the lake answer, but not the other (the boats name), so he just ignored it. He knew the answer because Chris had told him about the lake many times, it was important place for Chris. Not the best security question, but managed to convince the family for a while. Sad story.

[@benj3911]

@@janemiettinen5176 I mean the family should have contacted the new "girlfriend" as well. Who just goes hopping places without notifying family. When I travel I always call to give updates. It only takes like a minute or two.

[@preston74]

@@benj3911 there was no new gf. Ed made that up.

[@TheGuyWhoPlaysCod]

1,000,000 MILLION, MIKE! 1 M I L L I O N people decided that: Hey, I like this guy, and he makes really good content! Think about that for 1 sec. Congratz!

[@miss.a.musings]

Finally 1mil. About time 😎😁💞 started following in March or April with the first Lockdown.

[@sugarshameless9933]

Woot!

[@bevoss7573]

One million gave it a goo

[@StargazingCeres]

Crazy to imagine there was less than 400k subs on this channel when I found it just last year.

[@roberttanner8588]

I just realized he actually has 1,000,000 Subscribers. I remember a year ago he was at 300,000. I'm so happy to see his channel grow. I've been watching since the Chris Watts video.

[@groofay]

"This guy murdered Chris, then emailed his family pretending he was travelling all over the world... This episode brought to you by NordVPN."

[@jamesduncan6729]

@Music & Whistle msk I wouldn't say "underrated," it's just a pretty bog standard joke

[@greggaynor7512]

You me RAID SHADOW LEGENDS

[@chrisposey5191]

lol well played. cheers!

[@swizzler8053]

🤣👍

[@neonlights___3521]

Lmao

[@moserfugger6363]

I think the lesson to be learned here is: If you know that your bussiness partner is involved in shady activities and you want to get out of the company, never meet up alone. Always meet with people around at a place where you feel safe. greetings from germany :-)

[@dianewuchevich6208]

Or better yet report the bastard quietly and let him rot in jail.

[@gmy33]

Same goes for breaking up love relations .. lot of girls get in big problems ..so breale up in public places please ...

[@moserfugger6363]

@@gmy33 Lot of girls get in big problems? So you probably never broke up with a girl/woman then. ;-) Otherwise you'd know that there are many crazy cunts out there who can't deal with rejection and react *very* hostile to it. greetings from germany

[@gmy33]

@@moserfugger6363 i agree with you .. my neece 18 got killed by a boy who couldnt handle rejection .. boys in their 20s are known to step easily over lines.. its combination of testosterone ..bad regulation of emotions bad selfcontrol and nobody to teach them .. greetings from holland... the difference is crazy bitches make me laugh crazy dudes kill ..

[@Elleoaqua]

You'd tend to trust a person you've known and worked with for years tho. Where does it end? Trust no one? That's not a happy life.

[@aroyalesavage]

I feel like Shin beat Chris with the wine bottle he mentioned in the first interview. There’s absolutely no reason for blood to be on the ceiling. Someone has to be swinging something that is bloody. Glad Shin was found guilty, but i really wish they could find Chris’s body.

[@ericphakos8734]

while Chris was very drunk or sleeping

[@Nat-sw5sl]

This dude sucks at being a murderer. This has got to be the least effort from a murderer to cover their tracks. Makes the investigation work run smoothly. He didn’t even believe what he was saying.

[@nicholasschoonbeck6866]

I honestly think all the time about how Americans love true crime, cops shows, murder mysteries, crime stories are everywhere & a lot of our shows educate us on how the police process works & you would think people would be better informed but nope, they do dumb stuff all the time, like keep the murder weapon or keep a written list of things to use to process a dead body, its kind of crazy how often people screw it up.

[@Momsadventure7]

Dumbest to me so far it Chris watts

[@skidderskunk649]

@@Momsadventure7 joel guy jr was dumber. Dude kept a detailed notebook on the killings and didn't even bother to finish cleaning the crime scene

[@nic0lemari338]

@@Momsadventure7 I agree with you. And not just dumb, but one of the top pointless murder's. I can never wrap my head around people killing their children and spouses when they could more easily get divorced. Shannon or however you spell her name (bless her soul), wasn't exactly larger than him or very psychically intimidating. Let's say she possibly threatened him financially or publicly, then it's just a matter of Chris being extremely cowardly and to worried about his image or how people view him when having to explain how much of a shitty husband he was to people around him. Those reasons alone make him a disgusting human being that you'd rather kill your wife AND TOTALLY innocent children just so you don't have to face real life. Edited for a couple missing words and added a few better words to explain

[@lizhall4473]

@Sebastian Weagley - it's spelt Shan'nan - and i totally agree with you.👍 Chris Watts boils my piss he's such a dumb tool !

[@kroom7k536]

Dude had 7 years to learn to lie and get his story straight and just didn't lol psychopath

[@KingRockets]

Well what did you expect him to say instead? 2 years, 7 years, 15 years, would have made no difference....

[@gourmetwaters6916]

@@KingRockets Where the body was.

[@heyheytaytay]

makes U sound more like a psychopath

[@kroom7k536]

@@heyheytaytay I'm so so sorry for your simple little mind

[@Tired_Patriot]

I wondered why he didn't clean the other guys office with all that time he was alloted

[@Maxpower4908]

“Hey fam, what’s up? Definitely not dead. Peace out.”

[@annebernadettejones7143]

✌✌✌✌✌✌✌

[@absinthemindedJ]

Murder bad.

[@CrimeAllTheTime]

@@absinthemindedJ OMG 😂😂😂😂😂

[@melissamelgoza2069]

😭😭😂

[@cremGeoff]

"He was single like a Pringle"....

[@corettaha7855]

I go months without touching this channel then go on days long sprees. I’ve been glad I had lots of unwatched episodes to help me through the winter storm here in Texas. Thanks, Mike! You made my frozen days fly by.

[@BC.28]

Same, I’m in New Zealand though. Terrible what is happening for you over there 😞

[@coryCuc]

We were without power for over a week. Crazy stuff for Texas lol. I've been binging on his videos the past month. Good stuff.

[@jesr2-d2bot29]

Hello from Houston, Texas! We had no power to watch anything during that crazy winter storm! Jealous! Glad we made it though and Mike's voice is soothing and he's funny enough to not make this too much. I binge old episodes when I run out!!

[@chelseawoodward7345]

I travel for work we sell Chick-fil-A kind like a food truck deal but I do the same thing I'm on a day three spree lol

[@Algo1]

I'm from Chile, not once has a Chris Smith ever been here. Thought I'd say that unverifiable fact.

[@aircastles1013]

😂😂😂 Duly noted!

[@runningowl1812]

I don’t know you, but I believe you

[@VanillaUchiha56]

Who in the world runs with a story of "he hit his head and I just freaked out and let a giant russian man take him away" 🤦. He had months to come up with something and that's the best he could do?

[@angelaw1019]

😂😂😂

[@AndrewFedenev]

I am also a big Russian man. Just saying... we are big... and ...hm... russian...

[@ausgamecollector]

True, a smaller Russian man would’ve been a lot more believable 😅

[@BVonBuescher]

I know a few Russians that would handle that in SoCal np for the right money. It’s a crazy life down there

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

he actually doesn't sound like a very smart guy... if he was actually smart he wouldn't have been 1 million in debt also: who is the debt owed to? ... if its really such a big problem why not just declare bankruptcy and move on with ur life? unless it's owed to the mafia... which is possible...

[@OdintheGermanShepherd]

Gold KZbin Play Button coming soon.

[@damagecontrol7]

i hope he displays it at some point

[@atmywhitson]

Heck yeah! Mike deserves it

[@primesspct2]

i see it coming too!

[@itssopure]

@Chell Belle well deserved

[@MiVidaBellisima]

I thought that was for 1 mill, he’s already there

[@AltClev37]

Glad the jury saw through his bullshit lies. Pisses me off to no end that he won’t just tell them where Chris’s body is. He’s already in prison for life. The least he could do if he had any remorse (like he says he does) is give the family that closure they need. I feel so bad for Chris’s parents. They must be absolutely devastated 😔

[@Richard__Cranium]

I found this channel about a month or two (or tree) ago and it's no exaggeration when I say I have literally never been more entertained from a single KZbin channel. So incredibly happy I found this channel and this community. A big congrats to everything you've accomplished, Mike! You earned every bit of it. Can't wait to see what's in store for the future. Cheers, big dog!

[@melissamccleary9611]

I found this months ago too and I have binge watched since. Idk why it is so addicting. I guess I'm hoping that Mike will cover my story one day.

[@azurecielo52479]

I just found it 5 days ago, and I think I've gone through like 3/4 of videos. I can't put my finger on what I love so much (strange pauses when he can't figure out what to say), but Mike is delightful, and I'm hooked

[@skullrose8985]

@@melissamccleary9611 Hey there,can i ask what happened please??,i totally understand if you do not want to say.. I hope whatever happened you are looking after yourself properly.. Sending hugs,xx

[@andrewmaina8422]

@@melissamccleary9611 no please don’t hope for that…:)

[@fallyneprinciotta9058]

How ironic that he saw the playboy girl in Vegas? Its crazy there was something somewhere trying to help Chris.

[@rustinstardust2094]

It sounded like she was a part of Ed's entourage and that's how he ran into her.

[@smutjunkies559]

@@rustinstardust2094 oh really? That makes sense. I assumed it was just a coincidence. But what an idiot the guy is to bring her around. He didn't even have to do that.

[@rustinstardust2094]

@@smutjunkies559 Ikr?! This guy was all kinds of messed-up.

[@Tsiri09]

In a real accident, he'd have called the cops and an ambulance to help his business partner. Not acted like a criminal and cover everything up.

[@King_of_Railways]

But the Russian took him..

[@InshasChoice]

@SundayMorning yeah, the justice system is flawed. They'd pin it on you just to save the efforts of finding the real culprit. We know that much from watching true crime

[@Sm31LyxTr33s]

@SundayMorning Id rather get convicted of involuntary manslaughter than 1st degree murder with the intent of covering it up... but thats just me.

[@beekay9607]

So sad for his family and girl friend. He was a handsome young guy with his life ahead of him. Rest In Peace.

[@AnneOhn123]

That should have been the BIG Red Flag, when he broke up with the love of his life by email... that's when it should have been investigated!!!!

[@bluegreenglue6565]

This is a terrible story. I'm so sorry for Chris' family.

[@Addicted2Boozer]

33 years old?! Edward must have been stressing about this Alibi cuz he looks 50 on the mugshot

[@JadeLeaf1980]

The change in his face from the smiling guy in the pics to suddenly this sagging faced expression was incredible- looked like a different man entirely.

[@terriberri87]

I can't figure out his age when he committed the murder. Was he 22 at the time of the murder then 33 when he was arrested? He looks like a different person from his first interview to his mugshot, guess the stress from murder ages you

[@Chrisyt272]

I was thinking the same exact thing. 😂

[@A_Girl_named_nick]

@@terriberri87 I was thinking that too! I was also thinking how can someone at 22 can get that deep into debt!!!

[@lisaborsella5412]

No! He was tirty tree! hehe. No one like Mike. He should never change a ting.

[@j0hny00s]

The homie hit 1M congrats and let’s give em a goo!

[@jfm79]

My mother actually worked with Ed Shin leading up to his capture. Ed and Chris’s company had made some sort of deal with her place of employment at the time. I believe they met with Chris one time initially before he “started traveling”. The head boss that had agreed to the partnership was getting really impatient and wondering when the hell Chris was going to come back to continue on the work that was promised. Ed kept up the whole story at work too. My mom said Shin was very stoic and off putting. He didn’t say much, but he was stuck up and bougie, and also just kind of a fucking weirdo. Obviously things didn’t kick off until he was caught, but apparently he was actually caught when her old company was trying to expand from the US to Canada. According to her it was her boss and Shin trying to fly into Canada when they were both detained (boss had nothing to do with it, but the cops thought shin was trying to pull a legger). Edit: I guess they detained him on some other charges, but once the boss found out about the murder everyone was terrified that they’d been working with this murderer for so long with zero clue.

[@232323C]

you've got to be a juess

[@jfm79]

@@232323C a what?

[@johndrew1235]

A legger!!!! Hahahhaha

[@Venvaneless]

Was it LG Technologies? I recently read some company was working with him until the very end and only stopped because he got caught on probation violation, not the murder itself.

[@jfm79]

@@Venvaneless I believe it was a mortgage company Edit: Might’ve been a debt settlement company, my mother has worked all over the place apparently lol

[@gayna1857]

I honestly can’t wait for these videos. Well done on the 1 million subs 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@ThatChapter]

Thank you!!

[@iamV10010]

He hit a milli? Whoooo!

[@Leelominai]

Saved my evening as well once again

[@daydaychyna]

Ed sitting on the stand looking more like a witness instead of a murderer. Messed up a lot of ppl lives because he doesn't want to pay his bills. Damn shame

[@LeeDee5]

Congrats on 1M Mike, you deserve it!

[@SindyxLotus]

you know you have a solid intro and outro when people don't mark them with sponsor block, straight to the point and very much appreciated.

[@leukdagen11]

No doubt Chris Smith’s remains show evidence of a bullet. That’s why Shin will never let the police and Smith’s family have them. I hope Shin rots in prison. It’s where he needs to take his last breath.

[@Warriorette12]

If it was a bullet, there wouldn’t be blood spatter everywhere including the ceiling. More likely he was stabbed

[@janelle009]

@@Warriorette12 thats not true. Itd depend upon the weapon, angle etc. They can usually tell if its knives due to the way it splatters though

[@jonstone9741]

@@Warriorette12 Or how about a baseball bat or some other blunt object?

[@kylereich1884]

nah no bullet. I agree with the detective from the 20/20 on this murder who basically said that he thinks Ed Shin beat Chris Smith to death with a baseball bat or golf club. Shin had an EXTENSIVE sports memorabilia collection, there was an insane amount of blood splatter in the office, on the walls, the floor, even on the ceiling in the office, etc. The detective basically said that Shin lured smith into the office after he had sent everyone else home/given them the day off, and was basically lying in wait for him, in one of the offices as smith walked down the hallway to shin's office for their "meeting to settle accounts", shin just lunged out at him from behind and started brutally beating him with the bat, following him into the office where he finished him off in there. It was absolutely premeditated and brutal.

[@doucheberry]

Shin definitely beat Chris to death. A blunt object usually creates ceiling spatter as the weapon swings upward for the next strike. Noone was buying that self-defense malarkey...and he knew it.

[@Blackreaper777]

There's blood on the ceiling. GTFO with your "he fell and hit his head".

[@lisaborsella5412]

Rotten, lying coward! theres a place in Hell for people like him, Satan probably wouldn't even want his sorry ass! blaming Chris, when he is no longer alive to defend himself! That jury did it right!!

[@GamingIncMasterTroll]

Sometimes it be like that

[@datman3416]

The gravity was cut off that day he aint pay the bill

[@robertandrews6915]

Well of course he did. Then he got up shook his head so it would splatter everywhere. I believe everything people say

[@littleshopofeldritchhorror6224]

He fell and bounced....obviously lol

[@ispartacus1337]

Mike just hit a million subs yesterday and hes not even gonna acknowledge it! Congrats bro!

[@Jaxissupergay77]

Poor Chris.Poor family. But Mike humanizes. even this with his sweet face and kind demeanor .Thanks for telling Chris's story Mike. Good onya Mate! A MILLION; YOU DESERVE IT!

[@BostonSmitty]

Jesus Christ, clicked this as fast as possible. My name is Chris Smith 😂. Even though it’s a common name just had to make sure it wasn’t about boring old me.

[@brookarellastyle260]

Thank God it’s not about you 😉

[@Hearts_4hellokitty]

Guilty much? 😂

[@Gunsales1000]

No mate you were killed off in the last one. I thought Mike told ya?

[@garrysekelli6776]

As Long as your not in Business with one of the Clone Stormtroopers from the StarWars films u should be good.

[@danielnaranjo6321]

Suspicious

[@Peoples_Architect]

I never congratulated anyone for hitting 1M, I don't know what it makes one feel and i don't even care, but this guy.... Congratulations Mike!!!

[@IncredibleIceCastle]

Hearsay from his Discord says he’s celebrating by splurging on hookers (tree to be exact) and ketamine tonight...well deserved

[@EYExINxTHExLENS]

He won’t reveal where Chris’s body is because he knows his story is bullshit lol.

[@mr.ichbins8107]

I'm Chris Smith.

[@EYExINxTHExLENS]

@@mr.ichbins8107 I highly doubt that lol

[@EYExINxTHExLENS]

@Frank Marano EXACTLY! 💯

[@violetapelzman4316]

@@EYExINxTHExLENS So sad.

[@lisahinton9682]

What a trauma for the girlfriend, to be dumped by text, when you thought your guy was mad about you. I hope she's living a great life now, and has healed from the trauma of the "breakup" and from knowing (I am assuming) what actually happened to her guy.

[@shirleyjeanpilger2640]

This guy was a damn good liar until he had to explain how Chris' blood got all over the office when he supposedly just fell. Glad the jury saw through the jerk and put him away for good.

[@Gildacapra]

I came here to say Chris Smith is just 'Christmas' with a lisp

[@JenKelly]

That made me LOL and choke on my coffee. Thanks 😂

[@BeanoCake]

@@JenKelly I’m giggling like an idiot over this too lmao.

[@noka79]

🤣😂😜

[@annehorrigan570]

@@JenKelly I'm choking on an orange...🤣

[@diamante624]

Hahah

[@sierrajones9896]

When asking questions ask questions that you know the answer will be a lie. Ask, what was our dogs name? Knowing you've never owned a dog. If they give a name it's a lie.

[@burcua631]

and maybe some questions about vacations or memories.

[@sierrajones9896]

@@burcua631 yes! anything that can't be looked up on social media

[@mikehawks4741]

I'd go one step further and say don't ask a question. Start a generic conversation about all the adventures he is having, confirming to him that you bought his story. Reference events that didn't happen with friends you just made up as fact to see if he also remembers. Questions would put the killer on guard and make him more cautious.

[@troyundroy1]

@@mikehawks4741 Totally agree. Mind you, not sure how ip addresses didn’t come into play. I am astonished that Ed got all of the dad’s questions correct.

[@sam2725]

I'm still confused about how he answered the questions correctly, was there an explanation that I missed?

[@tylerskiss]

Shin put zero effort into selling his story. He’s just like “yeah, so like, I grabbed him by the arm I guess and threw him like you know, and then he took a few steps and then he fell. On some bullets. And then his head like popped off. And then Russians walked in”

[@reignman30]

Yeah I can't believe it only took the jury an hour lol.

[@projectkj7643]

So true! I heard that, too…his word usage showed massive deception (you don’t say “I think…” when you are stating facts). Glad the jury saw through it and rendered the correct verdict!

[@edm240b9]

Business partner’s name: Edward Shin from South Korea. Me, a South Korean named Ed: *sweats profusely*

[@Kerosene.Dreams]

Who are you working with? What are your ties to this case? Are there many South Koreans with the name Ed? Is it a common name? I have my eyes on you, sir.

[@BØØTYP0UNDER666]

What’s the name of your business partner’s family’s boat?! What lake did he grow up on as a child!?ANSWER MY QUESTIONS, ED!

[@beemo1]

Plus you know all South Koreans look alike -

[@jjoaocostalima]

He didnt answer...scatchy... He is guilty of something

[@nycoolj3]

@@beemo1 racist

[@rr8960]

I would like you to do a story on Arizona woman Sachiko McClurg, kidnapped in 2018 by her son in law Norman Schrank III. The family has yet to find her remains. It’s heartbreaking.

[@Ladybirdyn]

L

[@TS-yb2lo]

This is beyond a classic That Chapter episode. The way it flows, the musical beats and drama, the ups and downs. You da best, man.

[@AllTheCloudsArePink]

Ive always thought the music he chooses is superb. It's so unique yet really fitting somehow. Its also just really pleasant and catchy. It adds so much and is so well done. Iconic.

[@Rule_N_Reign]

Shin was lying all the way to prison 🙄 Glad he got life in prison.

[@libelow3588]

Libby Lib!

[@Rule_N_Reign]

@@libelow3588 😊

[@CeeKayBeautiful]

I love Mike-liners "What did we learn? Murder bad."

[@honkytonk4465]

Please explain in detail

[@2dirkjan]

Of this one: I will see you soon in the next one.

[@katrinibellini4033]

He casually said “single as a Pringle” for a good chuckle.😊

[@mayormccheese761]

Mike is what’s wrong with modern men.

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Lame.

[@PInk77W1]

Everything Ed said on the witness stand 100% lies. RIP Chris

Nothing gets past detective Him Bike here, does it?

[@hand__banana]

@ please respect one of the planet's finest minds

[@snh17]

@@hand__banana l mml Lmk mmmmm

[@emilybarclay8831]

@@snh17 indeed. Wise words.

[@bleachboys3623]

Tbh I see a few holes in one “Him Bike’s” theory. Just doesn’t have much support backing up his claim. Just an opinion

[@reigndeer1573]

People are so nice to Mike. You can really tell he's a nice bloke. You deserve a million subscribers and more. Wishing you a great 2021.

[@JeweL-DekAva]

I wish your videos were never ending! My anxiety is increasing as my un watched ‘give it a gew’ list is getting smaller and smaller….

[@sin_derella]

congrats on one million mike!!! its well deserved 🤩❤️

[@DeeDerry]

Finally!!!!!!!🙌🙌🙌

[@tarantellalarouge7632]

I hope Mike will do something special ! some crazy hat or outfit ?

[@janej6184]

I almost left the same reply as you did, I should have looked before I posted lol!! So I made an edit 😊❤

[@garrysekelli6776]

Grade Inflation.

[@SalemSphynx]

AGREED! Well deserved ♥️

[@maggiepowell7696]

Should have let Chris live and just gone to prison for embezzlement. He’d be out now. Choices.

[@Montina_Paullin]

I always think that in these cases! Or like when someone kills the witness to something like a robbery... well now you're going away for robbery AND murder. Good job. Lol

[@alexander5515]

They always think they're too smart to be caught.

[@no_peace]

What a pos

[@Lippitydo]

"If chris fell, why would there be blood on the ceiling?" why do i laugh at such things

[@AllTheCloudsArePink]

Just one reason why we all love Mike so much. He can lighten the mood some, which is nice when these kinds of things start getting too heavy, but he always manages to do it with respect , and usually at the expense of the criminal and his stupidity. Love it.

[@teeshirtandjeans84]

The Irish lightly deliver macabre information and imo have the darkest sense of humor as a group. Maybe I'm biased tho 💚

[@Lippitydo]

@@teeshirtandjeans84 my mother is irish! i definitely agree with you! i never pieced it together and realized mike was irish. but it makes sense! lol

[@Elleoaqua]

He maybe fell on a knife, slashed his jugular, and it spurted to the ceiling?

[@KoryFPV]

What I love about you’re style of delivery is, it feels loosely scripted but still in your own words and in real time. Love it

[@RebeccaGood7]

Geez I love Mike! He makes me laugh, he makes me cry, he says all the things everyone is thinking. He’s a brilliant artist using sarcasm and humility as mediums. God bless you mike!

[@jennifergilraine422]

You speak such truthful words for millions of people/fans 💯💫 🤔💙🤜💥🤛

[@pakistani8907]

i love mike but i feel like the timing of his pauses are off. Regardless I am a hug fan of That Chapter.

[@carlwinslo]

"Oh he pissed and vomited all over the office, also he spilled wine allover the carpet. Thats why his body fluids and red stains are allover the office floor. I knew this dude was guilty as soon as i heard he bought him out for 1 million dollars.

[@no_peace]

I knew he was supposed to be bad the first time he came up... That's not how you talk about someone who didn't do anything terrible lol

[@joannawilson-rhodes9225]

How to explain the blood on the ceiling? Hmmmm.

[@Safiyahalishah]

The intro made it pretty clear who the perp was. Be careful who you do business with. 😅

[@jartstopsign]

If there's one the The Soprano's taught me, it's that if you get into business with a gambling addict either 1-run the other way or 2- double down and take him for everything he's worth. Otherwise option 3 is how this ends

[@robotaholic]

I just love you Mike! You are such a good storyteller! I have permanently added the phrase "give it a gooo" to my vocabulary lol

[@andrewknaff9220]

So Ed had a ton of time to thoroughly clean the old office and he didn’t. Lol.

[@kittykaht1944]

Thank goodness he was arrogant, lazy, stupid or some of all 3.

[@ryancarroll5488]

It's v v v v hard to erase all traces of blood invisible traces linger

[@___chief866]

Ryan Carroll yes but it’s very clear they missed some. The “black” stuff they found was dried blood. It was very visible

[@andrewknaff9220]

@@ryancarroll5488 The video said there were still dark spots visible. I get that it is hard to erase blood so that luminol can’t detect it, but apparently he didn’t even try.

[@memawknowsbest4978]

@@ryancarroll5488 Except it wasn't invisible traces, Chris' family saw blood when they went to the office. Then the cops came in and used Luminol to see the full scope of it.

[@taracarpenter7908]

I went to high school with Ed.... this story is so sad and disgusting. Thank you for covering this case.

[@Bigboy_T-1000]

Interesting, any signs that he was capable of this back then?

[@leeannwitt5380]

SHUT UP!!!!prove it!!!!

[@taracarpenter7908]

@@Bigboy_T-1000 obviously not anything like this but he was a bit arrogant and full of himself. I was shocked obviously.

[@taracarpenter7908]

@@leeannwitt5380 I have my yearbooks!! I totally could prove it but I can't post pics.

[@marlborosweedoldenglish32]

@@taracarpenter7908 post a video

[@sabsk122]

Lawyer: do you regret the things that you did after the fight? Ed: everything Lawyer: Why? Ed: because I got caught.

[@damagecontrol7]

Ed: because I'm sitting here right now.

[@jeanaerowley7150]

As a mother I just cannot imagine! Talking to my son over email when he’s actually been dead for two years?! I hate what Ed did so much, but I wish the prosecutor would’ve knocked some years off just to find the body. I just can’t imagine not knowing where my baby is. My love to Chris’s family and friends 😢💔

[@beethimbles8801]

You hit 1MILLION! jeebus I’m so proud of you. I remember when there was just tirty tree hundred of us!

[@annehorrigan570]

Good one Amy!

[@rachybaby72]

😅😅😅

[@thefoxx8552]

Wine: check Blanket: check & that Chapter: CHECK! GOO CREW! LET'S GIVE IT A GOO! ♡

[@TheGauges420]

Well, lemme see and ill give it a goo girl.

[@dloveliesmusic]

I would wear a GOO CREW hoodie

[@thefoxx8552]

@@dloveliesmusic same!!

[@lennyball3885]

Love this!!! 💘

[@Kerosene.Dreams]

I don't have wine but I have a blanket and cats and that will just have to do.

[@flanneryred566]

"He cracked his head and started bleeding out. He didnt know what to do, so he called his Russian associate"...AS YOU DO! ROFLMAO!

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

Seriously! The dude lives in a comic book world. He made it up as he went.

[@gera4663]

if you don't have at least one russian friend that's willing to hide a body for you, ur doing something wrong.

[@PassTheMarmalade1957]

"I was just SO PANICKED that I researched a route for a round-the-world trip and maintained email contact with Chris' family for like a year, coming up with careful excuses for why the contact was so infrequent and also suggesting that Chris was depressed. I just FREAKED OUT, you guys!!!"

[@CoffeeBrainzz]

Dude that’s insane!!!!!!! Literally, what are the chances of The EXACT PlayBoy model is at the EXACT city, block, building, room as the brother!?!?!?! As well as an investigators office next door to 800 exchange 🤣 Holy hell that blows my mind, the Universe trying to help the family for sure. Read the signs when they show up! 😳🤯🤔

[@Caramelynx23]

Absolutely!!! Incredible!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@rockyBalboa6699]

That playboy model is contracted by the casino to appear at the venue and considering Shin is a gambler, he would have seen her many times and got pictures of her from websites. Still it's a bizzare idea to ghost someone!

[@laurahoward5426]

She's working the room, looking for Johns

[@jumpinjohnnyruss]

@@rockyBalboa6699 It was pretty stupid of him to bring the brother to see her, basically. I bet he was doing some pants-shitting if he saw the two talking.

[@Cernoise]

‘Single like a Pringle’? Excuse me but it’s very difficult to eat a single Pringle. Pringles are massively polyamorous.

[@celinef.9627]

😁😁

[@IncredibleIceCastle]

Pringles, the human centipede of chips

[@CassBeWary6]

@@IncredibleIceCastle thanks, I hate it

[@angeln1481]

Ain't that the truth !

[@Fitz1993]

Their slogan is literally, once you pop you can't stop... What a fucking idiot.

[@DEADisBEAUTIFUL]

Shin: “That’s when he grabbed me.” Lawyer: “How did he grab you?” Shin: “Right after I killed him, I- Oh, wait, I meant really hard or something.”

[@XavierIsraelMatamoros]

Lesson: If you find out your partner is sketchy & want out, RUN & let your lawyer handle the whole thing.

[@thecaptainsnark]

applies to business and personal relationships. For reasons why see a dozen episodes of That Chapter

[@lindamedina4722]

Congratulations Mike you are exceptionally talented! Your honesty and no room for bullcrap approach is refreshing. Especially in this day and age when nobody can trust the mainstream news. I’m sure the victims families are extremely grateful for your advocacy of their loved ones.

[@OmarExplains]

ONE MILLION SUBS! Maybe set up a P.O. box and let your international fans send you gifts from their country... I'm sending you the Saudi scarf

[@lisaelliott5006]

@Last Chance yessss!!!!!!

[@journeysalkebulan]

Great idea! 💜

[@gayna1857]

Great idea

[@journeysalkebulan]

I would like a scarf from Saudi myself!

[@samargorja6573]

Well you can send him Saudi riyals instead

[@trishliving9942]

Lesson- if someone sketchy owes you a lot of money, bring a friend 😉👍

[@azv343]

Or 5

[@InshasChoice]

Or family even

[@kcnwosu3984]

@@InshasChoice maybe he was trying to avoid some complexities too.. remember lottery winners who told their family !!

[@abdulrehman-lk1xz]

or cops

[@AndyBonesSynthPro]

Yeah no or maybe a tiny gun that's very easy to draw

[@marksgameoflife8446]

I little surprising that no one said "This is definitely not him" or" Call me now!" or ask him some better questions to verify who he is.🤔

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

I really wish that Mike had addressed just how in the world Ed was able to accurately answer the personal questions that Chris’s father had asked him in the email.

[@xbrandnewx]

It's so odd his family took so long to realize it wasn't him. Voice is proof of life for most people. Not just information about locations around him growing up. It's ever odder his dad was an ex cop. I suppose denial must be overwhelming. Its just I am 32, and If i don't answer my phone, then don't return the call instantly;y, my parents instantly assume I have died 😅

[@passionsquietrage]

They knew how he lived and that he liked to travel a lot, so the fact that they we're getting emails from him mentioning spotty or not internet didn't send up any red flags right away.

[@brandyhuff8487]

Plus they wanted to believe he was just living life 😞

[@MaxHarden]

He'll never get paroled sticking to that story.

[@syzygyfarm]

Should have closed with, "Million out."

[@pamelasue8396]

In the 80's I lived in Northern Va and near where I lived a 5 year old disappeared from a Christmas party. Her name was Melissa Brannon. The case has been solved. I would love for you to do a video on her. She was just as important as Jon Benet or Caley Anthony. Thanks for these videos.

[@wessteinfeld3337]

Obviously not as important if I've never heard of em.... Nice try!

[@montialarson]

I agree. Just because her name wasn't in the news doesn't mean she's any less important.

[@kellyandjulieelander5523]

The part about the moo at the beginning is so well written and explained and even kinda acted by Mike. Great job!

[@ProfSquarez]

I found a girl on Bumble who quoted Mike in her profile, "Let's have a goo". I doubt she'll match with me, but I hope she has a wonderful life

[@KPbouj]

^_^ omg what if she sees this comment and your guys have a date here in the comment section lol

[@DMR1010]

Fight for her , what if it’s fate ?

[@Rdwrer]

Thank you for saying "the Luminol lit up like... crazy" instead of like a Christmas tree!!! That one's up there with "She lit up a room".

[@Mbeepyd]

Haha I thought the same thing.

[@janetwestwood9194]

🤡 👈 👀 👉 🎄

[@michellelowe7082]

If I was his family I would have been suspicious from the minute he said he sold his half of the business to him for 1 million dollars. If he was making 5 to 8 million dollars a year why would it only be worth 1 million?

[@carltonbanks5470]

I think he said 5 to 8 million in revenue. That's different than the present value of the business.

[@ppumpkin3282]

@@carltonbanks5470 Given that fraud his partner committed and the fact his partner was out of money, the business may never have been profitable.

[@umbrellacorporationwuhanfa3731]

We think alike cuz when he said that i was pretty surprised at the moment the cop or the guys family didn't snap on that.

[@madamefeast4824]

5-8 Million in revenue. That might not even be profitable, revenue is not profit

[@umbrellacorporationwuhanfa3731]

@@madamefeast4824 That's true, however most companies running deficits that aren't eligible for a government bailout usually don't run deficits otherwise they won't be in business long. With that said even if the business had a substantial overhead the first couple of years a 6-8 million dollar revenue stream for a small business is considerable and the profit margin should reflect that in some small way even if it's jus a few 100k. Who sells a business that generates 6-8 million dollars for only 1 million?...

[@melaniespaur405]

I found your channel about two weeks ago....been binge watching daily. You by FAR , surpass most other crime story tellers!! Do an amazing job putting these videos together!!!!!