The Stranglers - New Music, Toronto TV November 26 1980 * Concert Hall * The Raven * Black And White

[@void0094]

Saw them today in Germany. I liked it a lot.

[@GimDandy6696]

I was there - what a night. They ripoed

[@wildphil64]

Ahh yes. The real Stranglers ❤

[@shshah]

I wonder where the rest of the gig footage is.....love to know?

[@heldopen]

Likely not much more exists. The show this was filmed for, The New Music, typically only recorded a couple songs in order to splice together short clips like this into a multi cam edit

[@shshah]

Thanks for the clarification - makes sense as all the footage is from the first song of the gig. They probably legged it out after that.

[@Rugmunchersauce3]

Excellent ! 😎

[@JHatLpool]

JJ Burnel and Hugh Cornwell. Never again will there be a universe where these two meet.

[@RossMcCarthy1990]

I'm sure they'll randomly run into each other at some point.

[@jasmineblack9778]

@@RossMcCarthy1990 they randomly met when JJ dropped a hitchhiker off at Hugh's squat

[@marcdewolf7334]

Hugh has felt double crossed for 32 years, he's a scorned man. The deal was the stranglers would break up if anyone in the band left. They didn't break up and now they sing the songs that he wrote and he's well pissed off.

[@Light54354]

@@marcdewolf7334 Im sorry but that is utter rubbish, there were moments when JJ was completely out of order towards Hugh but there were also times when Hugh was trying to achieve fame for himself, he left the band when it was at an all time low, The STRANGLERS are performing songs by the STRANGLERS. It was a 4 man effort. As much as I love for Hugh to be back as a member he also played a part in the current situation. He can feel double crossed as much as he likes but he wasnt double crossed

[@marcdewolf7334]

@@Light54354 what's utter rubbish? Hugh said the agreement was the band split if anyone called it a day, that's fact. He called it a day and they didn't split up Which is why he doesn't have a good word to say about them (even after 34 years). The band's managers wanted Dave and Jet out of the band in 1979 as they thought Hugh and JJ were better going on their own. Hugh told them where to go and they were essentially sacked. Hugh in that example was looking out for Dave and Jet, he wanted a bit of respect and wanted the band to drop the name and start under a new name, however Jet didn't see it that way and continued without taking into account the guy who wrote and sung most of the songs. Hugh wanted them to retire the name out of respect but they didn't do that. Had they done that they would still be talking today and no doubt would have reformed at some later stage.

[@jefflevinson669]

I was at that concert

[@chrisgodfrey8827]

They were such a comedic double act back then. We don't sing about politics. Nuclear Device is about girls. LOL.

[@jefflevinson669]

I suggest you listen to these lyrics pretty political

[@chrisgodfrey8827]

It's an ironic comment. Of course it's about politics. Sorry if I am inadvertantly spreading fake news.​@jefflevinson669

[@paolozak3014]

Whatever happened to the Heroes

[@spencerleezeppelinproctor6533]

I don't know if it's just my phone or what but I can't hear it at all! 😒

[@alanwmccausland9771]

jj playing sunburst p bass unusual

[@paddymacIV]

yon old 'rented' gear mate. .. great footage . . . . just when you think you've seen it all!! . . .

[@MrMarco33333]

Both playing different guitars. is that just after all the gear was stolen? Looks like Dave has the right stuff though. Shame the track cuts off halfway through.

[@paddymacIV]

yes mate, just after the gear got ripped off,.. imagining Dave was able to get a hold of the Obe to suit him . Yeah shame it cuts out/ great footage . Legendary 'HughinBlack' tee on display as well :)

[@ALV-gs1xg]

JJ has spent more years playing non Fender basses than he has playing Fenders. His Precisions didn't have Fender pickups either.

[@MrMarco33333]

@@ALV-gs1xg Interesting. That's the first I've heard about the non-Fender pickups.

[@TomDunk1]

I think the gig must have been shortly after they had their gear stolen whilst touring North America and relied on hired instruments.

[@marcdewolf7334]

I am convinced Hugh died and was replaced by a doppelganger around 1982 as here he is happy, laughing and engaged from 1983 to now he's lost his sense of humour, doesn't appear happy and comes across as bitter, just a totally different bloke to the hugh from 77-81 quite bizarre.

[@marcdewolf7334]

@Eliza Coleman I know what you mean but with Hugh it was uniquely an overnight change. I think maybe it was to do with the new CBS record contract and having another chance at commercial success and he decided to adopt a more professional stance with the media and the band. He's never really regained that original bloke he was as now he seems to be bitter about the stranglers not breaking up 32 years ago and them carrying on without him and breaking the unwritten agreement they all had.

[@marcdewolf7334]

@Eliza Coleman the silly clothes we're down to his agent who had connection in the fashion industry I think she was called Jackie Castellani, I think she made Hugh a bit of a clothes peg, she also turned his head to more pretentious social events in London. One in a million was her attempt to get Hugh out there on his own to see if the public would go for it (which they didn't).

[@rmayhem9658]

Absolutely - like he aged 10 years in 12 months!

[@jonathansimons5715]

77-81 was a VERY heavy drug period for Hugh. He wrote his best songs then too !!

[@marcdewolf7334]

@@jonathansimons5715 I agree the drugs helped him and JJ write some great songs.

[@stewright539]

Hugh changed and became nasty.He began to treat the fan base with disdain,the very people paying his wages.He wasn't happy during his last 5 years in the band and he doesn't look much happier since leaving.

[@maricallo6143]

Ironically, Jean Jacques and Hugh from the interview are the only ones still alive...

[@jutjet4011]

Pitiful 😠