The STRONGEST Flagship in Monster Hunter | Monster Hunter Edit |

[@Xenos25]

Yep, it's probably true and it seems fair when we have a look on his lore

[@camil3545]

Makes sense when you think about it, its effectively Malzeno + Qurio vs any single flagship and we have seen that standard Elder level poison, fire and wind could not fend off the Qurio on their own so adding in a whole other dragon that is going to passively benefit over time from all the leeching just becomes unfair.

[@Unkownentity705]

W edit 🔥

[@greatikechukwu4032]

Who actually wins in the Mal Vs Vel turf war!!??

[@goofyahhvalstraxproductions]

It's a tie, unless it's Primordial, where Malz wins badly

[@derekbuhler2492]

Valstrax has about 32 thousands horse power in its wings

[@doryanhidora3304]

And primordial malzeno when he was not even at his prime beated the ass of gaismagorm the same that would destroy mountain if he wanted to

[@derekbuhler2492]

@doryanhidora3304 it's F15 vs nuclear bomb everyone knows wich one will win

[@doryanhidora3304]

​@@derekbuhler2492Da vampiric nova clear 🗿

[@derekbuhler2492]

@doryanhidora3304 yes it does

[@greatikechukwu4032]

Oh yeah! When's the next poll please!?

[@HunDev_PL]

idk

[@doryanhidora3304]

​@@HunDev_PL Hey im just here to agree with ur short but i think that shagaru has his chance

[@otterex]

Morbius dragon

[@kashlemus]

Wait intill you meet his big brother at the end of sunbreak💀

[@HunDev_PL]

This big brother is weaker lmao

[@MyRey-z8f]

Savage deviljho vs ark giga

[@DanielBersot]

Flagship is the codename?

[@LordMiraakedits2142]

Valstrax is not weaker than Malzeno

[@Dinoreign]

I think valstrax is physically weaker, BUT would probably win due to the shear speed val has

[@LordMiraakedits2142]

@@Dinoreign Val have better speed and dura ngl

[@Dinoreign]

@@LordMiraakedits2142 Val definitely has better speed and possibly durability, id also give Val reaction speed as if you're flying that fast you have to have amazing reaction timing and precision

[@LordMiraakedits2142]

@@Dinoreign sure

[@goofyahhvalstraxproductions]

​@@LordMiraakedits2142 Malzeno's speed calcs have its speed consistently higher than Valstrax's, and the KE of Val's divebomb is quite fodder in comparison to most elder dragon feats (storm creation, heatwaves, earthquakes) Additionally Malzeno is supported by the narrative a lot more than Valstrax, unless it's Crimson Glow we're talking about

[@user-tq6tf5wn1x]

Physically valstrax would be the strongest by far. He could just use around the world and it would one-shot all three, with velkhana just getting shattered and the other two also getting crushed

[@doryanhidora3304]

Sadly no not even ambush can one shot its still a ultimate + It couldn't take down amatsu a bit + We have no proof that he can OS any elder In termes of fear primordial malzeno (not prime) beated gaismagorm in base form While prime base malzeno is stronger than before he dont have 2 phase but 4 Now he can easly beat a lunagaron the same creature that can beat a garangolm in termse of overall strengh And even match scorned magnamalo with his physical strengh Better durability game + lore wise (cutscene) literally as shield alive And his fighting skill is absurd Phase 1 primo malzeno Vs CW valstrax Physical strengh malzeno Stricking strengh valstrax Overall AP both Durability malzeno Endurance/stamina valstrax Iq battle iq malzeno Speed combat/speed mouvement malzeno Speed déplacement/speed attack valstrax Ability/hax malzeno Winner base Pmalzeno ext diff Phase 4 mid diff And high diff risen 💀🙏

[@user-tq6tf5wn1x]

@@doryanhidora3304 If valstrax can withstand the impact of around the world than malzeno wings won't do anything to him, and if his wings allow him to speed up that much he can use an energy burst to propel his wing forward and stab. He obviously won't one shot everything and be undamagable Ingame because that would be a bs fight, but if his organs and scales tank his landings, than some random dragon who only uses medium fast attacks won't damage him either

[@doryanhidora3304]

The thing is that your based one nothing Many high level dragon AP are based on mountain level or even greater in AP not DC but gaismagorm is one of those And malzeno literally bodied him in base form before his prime For exemple even a tigrex can one tap a large piliar of rock with the size of a building (small edit 2 at the same time) So can malzeno's wing resist to ambush yes On the other hand his physical strengh is not strong enough to completly stop his ambush he would atleast need his 2 wing and should be able to stop it I mean they even did a pseudo turf wars with amatsu and CG valstrax and even if he used to put an ambush on amatsu the dev choose to not animate a true turf war then amatsu just got stun a sec Like they did with the narwa for some of the elder dragon sadly valstrax was just a pure tool Now i can understand your point with the AP=dura but most of the dragons/wyvern scales very high in termes of physical strengh and durability For exemple shagaru magala is literally an equal to malzeno atleast if not stronger since he was the master of the land and even gore magala could easly handle a tigrex in base form with his weaker arms And literally primor malzeno is showed as a true god knight alive remember base primordial is one of those Monster that can easly kick the ass of a scorned magnamalo or a gaismagorm in base form So can valstrax CG beat primo malzeno ? No Malzeno still has better overall AP physical strengh fighting and mouvement speed (not attack and déplacement) Durability hax ability But i can tell you something is that CG valstrax was statted that he was probably the strongest that the guild ever faced (statted by admiral) so it should be taken with a pinch of salt but it would include atleast Monster like gaismagorm and narwa since admiral saw them and was here most of the time But for some Monster like shagaru its different since he didn't saw him + Manh Monster like primodial malzeno chaotic gore magala amatsu and velkhana canno't be counted in In my opinion on the top 3 flahship 1 shagaru Magala (gore but its still the same Monster) 2 primodial malzeno 3 CG valstrax

[@doryanhidora3304]

If we take the prime of the flagship monster then 1 shagaru magala better overall physical strengh and Ap feat ( yes shagaru is stronger physicly than nergi yes) 2 malzno his durability and speed makes him really strong and unpredictable Monster 3 valstrax=> nergi kinda a mix of malzeno and shagaru but with weaker stats 4 nergi Da hunter of elder dragon with great durability and strengh 5 velkhana Eh idk he's just not that strong lol just mid maybe over teostra and kushala but that it For all of nergi fan it donsen't mean he's weak tho 💀🙌 Tho all of them are stronger if not way stronger than mid level elder like teostra or kushala

[@lightningridley9094]

The strongest i think would be bloodbath diablos

[@MyRey-z8f]

Deviljho vs ark giga

[@Rising_Nocturne]

No way! As an approved ark survivalist , I can guarantee you ark giga and mid dif picklesaurus rex. Ark giga x10 bigger than a normal giganotosaurid and stronger , adds up with the rage / revenge ability

[@doryanhidora3304]

​@@Rising_Nocturne The thing is that even a tigrex can one tap 2 giant Piliar of rock with the size of a building easly+ in base form not even angry where he's stronger Deviljoh is that kind of Monster that just destroy any tigrex even in physical strengh deviljoh is deff stronger more durable Deviljoh is just 1/3 smaller he would just stop him and get him up like he did with the diablos + Deviljoh can catch rajang so he's fast enough to speedblitz Deviljoh base for mid high diff 🗿

[@doryanhidora3304]

​@@Rising_Nocturne edit he can even match most of the elder dragon breath wich is atleast mountain level AP + his dura on his back can be strong as his AP beacose of the dragon element

[@EclipticViper]

Nergigante is still the strongest Malzeno is the most powerful Theres a difference

[@jakubtrapp3509]

well malzeno on its own probably ismt the strongest flagship BUT PRIMORDIAL IS

[@doryanhidora3304]

People sleeped too much on him Before qurious he was in primordial form (base) like base form And curent one was bassicly his base form but even stronger and imagine its not even his fourth phase Malzeno and shagaru r both the most underrated elder dragon both has incredible feat / upscaling+ if malzeno was the protector shagaru was the master of the Land both r the best duo But i do think that shagaru need his risen form to beat phase 4 malzeno

[@jakubtrapp3509]

@@doryanhidora3304 personally they are the best dragons in the series i even play frontiers grandted i am not too far in it only got reacently to hr3 but some fronteirs monsters are pathethic in comparison to prime zeno PATHETHIC

[@doryanhidora3304]

​​@@jakubtrapp3509for real 👀

[@CisnePelado]

​@@jakubtrapp3509 Haven't you fought Guanzorm? I don't remember in which hr it appears, but i can confirm that if you mean power-wise, middle to late game Frontier monsters are on a whole other level compared to mainline. Specially supremacy monsters, idk who's brilliant idea was to make some of them key quests 😭

[@jakubtrapp3509]

@@CisnePelado well no i was planning to do so today i reacentlly got hr4

[@mohdredzwanredzwan8952]

Nergi would win againts malzeno