The Strongest Weapon in the game was BUFFED by Heroics Secret | Iceborne

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TheGameconomist

TheGameconomist

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Safi Burstcannon is hitting so hard, we're going to have to put it into its own SSS tier at this point...
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@TheGameconomist
@TheGameconomist 4 жыл бұрын
Sticky Ammo mEtA build: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2qQaH6IbpZ0mtE
@blazedgamingkr1438
@blazedgamingkr1438 4 жыл бұрын
I got lucky AF at the melder the other day. She gave me one of those burstcannons for the cost of a crystal. I love my zinogre hbg but this is just insane.
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd 4 жыл бұрын
@@blazedgamingkr1438 Eh, I ended up with the Nergigante HBG. Feels nice. Like 40 a pellet on spread 3
@Hac-dieu
@Hac-dieu 4 жыл бұрын
I was distracted by the fact your burstcannon has one Attack 4 awakening still. The pie could still get bigger...
@kamdynjaxon8479
@kamdynjaxon8479 3 жыл бұрын
InstaBlaster
@mustdie27
@mustdie27 4 жыл бұрын
You can hear Lance mains crying in the distance. All 5 of them.
@SpaceMonkey1900
@SpaceMonkey1900 4 жыл бұрын
@@obambagaming1467 elemental crit, tanky, hit weakened spots and enjoy. I use it at times depending on monster
@anormalchest560
@anormalchest560 4 жыл бұрын
;-;
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd 4 жыл бұрын
I don't cry about Spread Ammo. I cry when I didn't bring Flinch Free and a Long Sword or Switch Axe is ruining my attacks.
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpaceMonkey1900 I got a raw lance that kills faster than all of my elemental lances, and it's not because I didn't build them good enough. I think they should double check lance elemental damage.
@CrossingWays
@CrossingWays 4 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭 lol
@PeteToken
@PeteToken 4 жыл бұрын
1:42 *Cries* while holding my Lance tightly
@fpast4577
@fpast4577 4 жыл бұрын
PeteToken members all the good times poking the hell out of monsters
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd 4 жыл бұрын
Stop crying, you didn't pick up a Lance for the kill times.
@dyno269
@dyno269 4 жыл бұрын
We need a buff like the SnS did
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd 4 жыл бұрын
@@dyno269 Wasn't that just a buff to under preforming new features?
@fpast4577
@fpast4577 4 жыл бұрын
The King no but we would get a buff so players start paying attention to it so it’ll get more love
@nivek4321
@nivek4321 4 жыл бұрын
the lance joke hurts so much
@DeeDub02
@DeeDub02 4 жыл бұрын
Haha
@kornx10
@kornx10 4 жыл бұрын
F
@jclarke90
@jclarke90 4 жыл бұрын
MK Espiritu Lance is trash lol 😂
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd 4 жыл бұрын
@@jclarke90 Nope, just not meta
@leopangestu5753
@leopangestu5753 4 жыл бұрын
F
@lonelyguyneedlove
@lonelyguyneedlove 4 жыл бұрын
We need a Mega Lance Buff, give us the ability to Drill so we can pierce the heaven
@XguckiX
@XguckiX 4 жыл бұрын
They could buff the counter attack so you get rewarded for playing good and mayby increase poke damage or speed.
@TheZeroteck
@TheZeroteck 4 жыл бұрын
maybe they could make the lance charge up their shield and than the weapon and.. oh wait. for real though they could literally add a slice of pie to all its moves to atleast somewhat do damage, what i really think the lance is missing though is a high commitment, high dmg attack you can use against downed monsters, like what are your current options? stab it 6 times for 50 dmg?
@kornx10
@kornx10 4 жыл бұрын
YESSSS
@williamtorres4140
@williamtorres4140 4 жыл бұрын
Did you just Guren Lagan? XD
@jatwood9648
@jatwood9648 4 жыл бұрын
Make counter damage proportional to the strength of the blocked attack. Or how about offensive guard secret.
@lexxy1579
@lexxy1579 4 жыл бұрын
When you compared it to the lance, I felt sad :'(
@Sygmus6
@Sygmus6 4 жыл бұрын
You know what the lance is doing? Not triple carting, unlike 90% of the people who are gonna try to run this build.
@yokillyo1
@yokillyo1 4 жыл бұрын
idk about that back in base game I did my draken farm in one sitting and they carted just as much as everyone else tbh, sometimes more cas they wanted to try tanking it the whole time.
@astr0868
@astr0868 4 жыл бұрын
just use rocksteady, health booster and 2 health augments
@JosephC506
@JosephC506 4 жыл бұрын
@@astr0868 in that case... what's the point of the build? You need to be in less than 35% health
@idiosyncrasy7703
@idiosyncrasy7703 4 жыл бұрын
There's a thing called shield hbg. You should try it out. Basically invincible while dealing "slightly" less damage than a full offensive hbg build. Lose the scope and some close range mods and slot in 3 shield mods. Slot in guard 5 and guard up and you'll basically have the defensive capabilities of a lance while dealing thrice, maybe even 4 times, the damage. Not to mention the ability to bring in much more utility than lance can offer with sleep and paralysis ammos. Need even more utility by sacrificing little damage? go shield sticky. Monster is fast and agile and hard to chase around? Go pierce and shoot at literally any distance. I've never tried hbgs before in base, only used agile weapons like bow and db, or weapons that punish monster openings like gs and hammer. Picked up hbg in iceborne and jesus fuck are hunts such a cakewalk. I tried lance a bit later on, after maining sns since hbg feels such a cheat to use and I felt the sns buffs made the weapon a bit better to run in solo. Needless to say, yes I was definitely tanky but the monster seemed to be tankier as well. I get damage numbers in the 200s with the charge attack but every other poke deals 100-150 damage. For reference, my elem bow builds when used on monster weak to that element, can deal upwards to ~80 damage, PER ARROW. And I never get hit that much anyway since dodging attacks becomes easier the more you learn a monster's moves. Lance really needs a buff, it was such a fun weapon to use, too, but adding 3-5 mins per hunt just because I don't deal enough damage despite constant uptime on my dps makes the lance a bit frustrating to use.
@JosephC506
@JosephC506 4 жыл бұрын
@@idiosyncrasy7703 well yes and no, you can't shoot and use the shield at the same time and also no matter what you will get cheap damage and you need a lot of def skills to still alive
@phenix2403
@phenix2403 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see how double fortify + heroics secret looks (you could also run resentment in elders recess)
@tannermilo
@tannermilo 4 жыл бұрын
i couldn't care how much extra damage the special scope gives it is so annoying to use also no shield on that build while be at 50 hp you will spend more time carting then doing damage
@Lunarainne
@Lunarainne 4 жыл бұрын
don't get hit
@victorverde4080
@victorverde4080 4 жыл бұрын
Vetur my goodness, what an idea, how didn’t I think of that
@alvinderama3196
@alvinderama3196 4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see a game play against monsters especially fast and hard hitting ones. I've only started using HBG and my god it's so slow, even the dodge-roll is slow.
@tannermilo
@tannermilo 4 жыл бұрын
@@alvinderama3196 that's why you equip the shield and block attacks rather then rolling it is the best shield in the game as the shooting animation is only 0.8 seconds (spread 3) and then your back in your block stance i personally run health booster and just stand in it and wait for the monster to come too me
@alvinderama3196
@alvinderama3196 4 жыл бұрын
@@tannermilo Yeah I know that's why I'm confused on he can survive without any Shields. He did show his Bow augments in 2:04.
@walkthebrokenpath0
@walkthebrokenpath0 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe speed running and in training but keeping heroics up for the average player during a hunt isn't likely you might have the highest burst damage but you're in cart range of a light breeze. I could see this being a thing in the guiding lands though.
@ACSMEX
@ACSMEX 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is that I would have to create a second safe HBG since there is no way I´m thinking about removing health boost from the one I have... Though thinking about it, I can get what I need to get it again in less than an hour of farming.
@joeybela4581
@joeybela4581 4 жыл бұрын
Fortify x2 plus heroics??? Plus highest damage build???? -> profit???????
@johnnydrama3829
@johnnydrama3829 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more with any of these points. The build is still worth making but only for 'easier' hunts, like anything high/low rank and non-tempered MR (and some tempered...mainly threat level 1 mobs) or in guiding lands where it really doesn't matter if you die. That scope takes some getting used to also
@golgothatheend
@golgothatheend 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree with rest of the guys. Basically you are wearing one more armour piece worth of defense, fortify and three health boost with earplugs. With that dps. And you have Impact mantle to give additional CC. If you're failing to flinch lock with that, you're probably doing something wrong. And I guarantee, you'll still have a decent dps with special scope 'and' close range up all replaced with shield.
@johns783
@johns783 4 жыл бұрын
you guys, seriously are not thinking this through. you lay traps. you immobilize, and then you go in. you do so much damage that the monsters are constantly getting their parts broken or falling down. That's how it works. 2 or 3 shots is all you need. keep the weapon sheathed and lure the prey. if it's an elder you'll need to practice to know how and when it's gonna fall/be immobilized. sure you might die more often than most hunters, but you'll also find some of the easiest clears you've ever had because you just melt them down. no monster survives attacks this strong for over 5 mins.
@holyloli69420
@holyloli69420 4 жыл бұрын
Doomguy: *Where can I get this gun?*
@johnnyruiz4241
@johnnyruiz4241 4 жыл бұрын
Safi jiva's siege dude
@maverickhannoun6658
@maverickhannoun6658 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyruiz4241 i dont think you got the joke xD
@TheRea1Neil
@TheRea1Neil 4 жыл бұрын
Lol @ Maverick
@hellberia572
@hellberia572 4 жыл бұрын
damn u comment in every youtube videos
@NightSentinel8432
@NightSentinel8432 3 ай бұрын
Already got it.
@AxxmorbidfloristxxC
@AxxmorbidfloristxxC 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the pleasure of going up against safi with one of these and a hunting horn. I swear I spent more time pressing start to skip the cutscenes than I did fighting
@eli-boy7473
@eli-boy7473 4 жыл бұрын
Gameconomist: 40% more damage is not gonna increase the lances damage output me: Wait. What? Gameconomist: *Maaf* Edit: He said yes, you should run this. Hear me out. If you are able to eyeframe perfectly with the HBG, run it. You are really good at staying alive with heroics? Yes, definetly run it, your damage is insane. But if one of you beautiful tardcrouchers tripplecarts on me and tells me that "Gameconomist said this was the meta" then i'm going to eat you alive. And Gameconomost, if you read this, please hold back on such statements as "yes, definetly play this". You only talked about the insane damage output without adressing the fact that most players are not even close to being skilled enough to play consistent with heroics. So many braindead players just hump on the meta no matter what. Also, no matter how much armor you have, when you play with heroics, almost every move of a tier 2 tempered monsteris going to onehit you. Also: 40% attack power increase = 40% more damage. On every weapon. Heroics secret is viable for every single weapon in the game. Also Also: Felyne Heroics is still better. 35% instead of 40%, yes, but you can run any armor you want. you could run Brachy and sprinkle it with an enormous boost in crit and raw skills. Definetly amounts to more then 40% increase in total.
@Shearenity
@Shearenity 4 жыл бұрын
I'll have to agree on the heroics and survivability. But I disagree on the heroics 40% damage increase part. Yes, mathematically, you do 40% more damage on every single weapon. But you can't really look at the percentages. 40% damage increase for a lance pales in comparison to, say, 40% damage increase to HBG or Greatsword. Tl;dr Percent increase to a doo doo damage will still deal doo doo damage. But percent increase to a weapon that actually deals damage (not lance), now that is good.
@eli-boy7473
@eli-boy7473 4 жыл бұрын
@@Shearenity thats completely wrong mathematically and even more wrong practically. If a raw damaged based lance player runs this set, he will gain 40% more effective raw, increasing his damage output by 40%. The initial damage output doesn't matter. Besides, you act like lance is only doing like 10% of the damage of weapons like hbg or gs. I'm not sure if this still is correct, but for a time lance outdamaged longsword and chargeblade, two weapons that are very commonly used with heroics in the ranks of speedruns. TL;dr: Lance is still a viable weapon, and lance speedrunner will gain a massive boost from heroics. But thanks for aknowledging the survivabillity aspect. A huge problem that needs adressing,
@momoware
@momoware 4 жыл бұрын
@@Shearenity But it works the same with raw attack boosts and critical hits. They all scale off basic stats. 1 attack gem would grant more net attack on a GS than a lance.
@lovehane
@lovehane 4 жыл бұрын
Are you telling us that this damage output is not include fortify proc?!
@adhikawibowo5949
@adhikawibowo5949 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my God that's insane!! Melt everything with the monkey king set
@juanisaias8308
@juanisaias8308 4 жыл бұрын
Don't use this set in coop for the love of god
@Vinseanity_15
@Vinseanity_15 4 жыл бұрын
@@juanisaias8308 unless you are in a coop of speed runners
@juanisaias8308
@juanisaias8308 4 жыл бұрын
@@Vinseanity_15 even then im not sure. The current meta has agitator 7, resentment 5, and attack boost 5. I dont know if this build is truly better, or even worth it
@Vinseanity_15
@Vinseanity_15 4 жыл бұрын
@@juanisaias8308 personally I won't run since I lack the skill needed to do a perfect run with so little health hence I will keep to the agitator 7, resentment 5 and guard 5 set up for comfier runs
@0oSiLveRo0
@0oSiLveRo0 4 жыл бұрын
that was probably the worst example i ever heard with the pie
@joesheridan9451
@joesheridan9451 4 жыл бұрын
Haha. I can't figure out if this guy is smart or a bit of a spaz
@joshuaijimenezalonso2267
@joshuaijimenezalonso2267 4 жыл бұрын
Lance needs a buff fast! Thats my main weapon but due to the low damage output I have been using the long gunlance ever since.
@XguckiX
@XguckiX 4 жыл бұрын
Same here... Build a lance build but never used it... because damn even HH and SnS feels more impactful
@Walamonga1313
@Walamonga1313 4 жыл бұрын
Change asap to Wide Gunlance using Raging Brachy armour and GL. Basically Lance but better.
@joshuaijimenezalonso2267
@joshuaijimenezalonso2267 4 жыл бұрын
@@Walamonga1313 already tested it. I do not like wide due to that investing on both raw weapon damage and shelling damage does not give me space for defensive skills. Thats why I use Long Gunlance.
@Walamonga1313
@Walamonga1313 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaijimenezalonso2267 Raging Brachy gear tho EDIT: Also you can get health boost in it easily
@DTPandemonium
@DTPandemonium 4 жыл бұрын
@@Walamonga1313 wide is a trap man, it's fuckin trash with the giga low range and it's also a trap to build physical damage with it unless it already comes with the armor. But the big problem is the range. yes it may have a decent amount more stagger on charge shot but it doesn't mean anything if you can miss simply by being 1 meter away. It's alright against monsters that dont move too much and are very weak to leg trips like banbaro and regular rathian etc.
@madestro
@madestro 4 жыл бұрын
I agree the Lance needs a buff. I would add guard up immediately when entering power guard, that woukd save a deck slot. I would also add a skill or a rework of the challenger mantle that would make the monster attack you and only you for a set time. But honestly, why does the Lance exists? Because for some of us it's FUCKING FUN. If this was only about the highest dmg then all that would exist in the game are 2 hbgs
@sharinganproz
@sharinganproz 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that they have allowed gunner weapons to outshine blademaster weapons for 3 (4 if you count iceborne as its own game) games in a row is disgusting. Easier to play weapons should not be more powerful than weapons that take time and effort to fully master.
@thomashenter4648
@thomashenter4648 4 жыл бұрын
God thank you
@heronumber009
@heronumber009 4 жыл бұрын
Well, bowguns need to be like this. Even how it is now, bowguns r still quite low on the popularity list. If you make them too weak then who gonna be bother to use them? And remember that bowguns provide a lot of utility for the whole team, such as set up sleep, paralyses, knock down, etc. ALSO one important thing is: the build here is SPREAD build (close range) with a scope, and WITHOUT shield mods. SO it's not an "easier to play" style.
@sharinganproz
@sharinganproz 4 жыл бұрын
@@heronumber009 Bowguns are insanely popular, not really sure what rock you've been living under. This channel literally creates weapon popularity videos every few months... Bowguns can provide utility, yes. So why should they also do the highest damage on top of all of that? The only difficult part about using bowguns is positioning properly while you empty your load onto the monsters face. No mechanical skill is necessary other than aiming in the general direction of the monster that you are shooting at.
@thomashenter4648
@thomashenter4648 4 жыл бұрын
@@heronumber009 low on the popularity scale? On Ps4 they are literally everywhere and anyway what kind of argument is that sepoused to be its OK that they are to strong because no one uses them? And the fact that they can apply KO way easier than hammer and HH is a shame in itself
@heronumber009
@heronumber009 4 жыл бұрын
@@sharinganproz "insanely popular", well what are their rank? 1st? 2nd? From what I often see, they usually rank around half way or sometimes lower on the popularity list. Half way mark is not qualify as "insanely popular", especially consider how strong they are. That's why I said "quite" low. The high damage is there to encourage people to use those weapons, then when people use them, hopefully they will provide their team with utility. LET look at another weapon with a lot of utility, the Hunting Horn, how does that goes? How many people r using it? As I said this build is very close range, without the shield mods, with the scope and HBG is very slow. So avoiding damage from monster and try to position yourself is not easy. IF it's so easy and the "only difficult part about using bowguns is positioning properly while you empty your load onto the monsters face" then why don't you use it and start to main it instead. Nobody prevent you from doing so, right?
@BetaKuck
@BetaKuck 4 жыл бұрын
1:36 The gunners guild agrees and is always open to new members
@3DThird
@3DThird 4 жыл бұрын
The main problem with the lance is how much you need to invest in Guard skills. I think Capcom should make it so that Guard is a 3 level skill and Guard Up is weapon-dependant, meaning that heavy weapons have Guard Up by default while lighter weapons don't have it. And also the weapon needs a long-animation move that does good damage when monsters are downed.
@starpreacher01
@starpreacher01 4 жыл бұрын
While it’s cool to see how much damage it can do I can’t help but think heroics just isn’t worth it and will get u killed
@unclesam5714
@unclesam5714 4 жыл бұрын
just one thing to add, % doesn't work diffenrently with diffenrent number.... if you add 40% it will alway be a 40% increase; what you might wanna say tho is that at lower damage simply adding damage give you more in return than adding %
@SteamPortal888
@SteamPortal888 4 жыл бұрын
The lance is supposed to be tanky, why buff its attacks when you can instead give it something to compliment that tankiness? I think it'd be cool if the team revamped the new iceborne mechanics to it where monster attacks can be reflected back consistently in a similar way to the charge blade's guard point except always on? I think it would be pretty cool, heck maybe even the elemental/abnormal blights of your weapon can still trigger even when blocking attacks. That would be seriously awesome.
@sleekfavz
@sleekfavz 4 жыл бұрын
Part of the enjoyment is the numbers, the other part is hearing osrs music in the background XD
@Vizuall
@Vizuall 4 жыл бұрын
Went to see if anyone else noticed hahah
@bringerchaos4142
@bringerchaos4142 4 жыл бұрын
Here is a build for Safi Agitator were health loss is not a problem- Raging Brachy head and waist beta Safi chest and arms beta Safi legs alpha Resentment Charm maxed Safi Burstcannon with 2 atk 5, 1 atk 6, slot upgrade 3, spread ammo up 2 Weapon Augments Health Regen 2 Deco's to give you Agitator 7 Health Boost 3 Recovery Up 3 Crit Boost 3 Weakness Ex 3 Max Might 3 Evade Extender 3 Spread Shot 2 Blight Res 2 Crit Eye 1 (just cause I like even numbers)
@Qballiz2kool
@Qballiz2kool 4 жыл бұрын
“It’s the most damaging thing in the game compared to ALL weapons” So it’s broken as shit got it...
@youtubeenigma8316
@youtubeenigma8316 4 жыл бұрын
No, it just has the highest dps. There will always be a build that does the most damage if played optimally.
@machudaimarunrak6292
@machudaimarunrak6292 4 жыл бұрын
@@youtubeenigma8316 problem is it take so little skill to play for the reward. In base game, weapon with high damage also have more risk. HBG having high dmg is fine, but need to nerf the defensive capability. I prefer that adding shield in HBG also decrease weapon damage so adding 3 pr more making dealing high damage impossible. Using scope should be rewarding cause it's harder to use.
@youtubeenigma8316
@youtubeenigma8316 4 жыл бұрын
@@machudaimarunrak6292 Dude what are you talking about, the video is about using heroics, the most glass cannon/riskiest skill in game. There is no defensive capability. The OP is jokingly doing a simplified translation about this specific set, not the weapon in general.
@youtubeenigma8316
@youtubeenigma8316 4 жыл бұрын
*Close range heroics heavy* bowgun is like the literal definition of skill in MH as your only defense is dodging or timing your offense to not overshoot flinch zones. Literally anything that uses heroics without a shield or divine blessing secret requires you to play like a robot. If you slot in defensive skills you lower your dps potential and this set is all dps.
@machudaimarunrak6292
@machudaimarunrak6292 4 жыл бұрын
@@youtubeenigma8316 That's why they need to nerf shield. I'm fine with people using heroic or super risky build for dmg. I didn't complain about the video. But the normal ,shield+guard up HBG is too easy. So, we should nerf that thing and force people to either deal a lot less dmg or ditch shield and deal high dmg. Isn't that good?
@KhoiBoa
@KhoiBoa 4 жыл бұрын
Y not just eat for felyne heroics. It’s 35% damage. Then u save 7 slots and don’t have to use armors. You then can add more agitator, more att more resentment. And definitely guard 5, 3 shield if playing casual.
@hungrydave
@hungrydave 4 жыл бұрын
KhoiKO Felyne heroics require you to be even lower health, I believe 10hp. But yeah it’s better if you’re speedrunning and can trigger the low hp via guts.
@Aedoucan
@Aedoucan 4 жыл бұрын
is that runescape music? been a couple years since i last played
@mattmcintyre7083
@mattmcintyre7083 Жыл бұрын
"you could run the Safi set but the problem is you're going to constantly take damage from that and I don't like that" -continues with video encouraging people to run around at 30% health 🤔
@bobbywalker2980
@bobbywalker2980 4 ай бұрын
Heroics secret is the equivalent to "Red tearstone ring in Ds1".
@cod3n4m36
@cod3n4m36 4 жыл бұрын
If you're only going to have earplugs 5 while using glider mantle you might as well just use rocksteady and change the helmet for the beta version
@sakamotojones
@sakamotojones 4 жыл бұрын
You get a like for showing me this fancy new weapon, and for having runescape music in the background.
@johngoodeman8609
@johngoodeman8609 4 жыл бұрын
An example fight would have been nice.
@HESADOGWHAT
@HESADOGWHAT 4 жыл бұрын
that lance comment was uncalled for :'(
@ImpassiveCanine
@ImpassiveCanine 4 жыл бұрын
*laughs in Gunlance*
@lueboytheman9508
@lueboytheman9508 4 жыл бұрын
Well... the video is technically correct but everything is has perfect conditions. That's not common in gameplay, you won't be able to sustain that damage output constantly in game. Monsters move.
@joesheridan9451
@joesheridan9451 4 жыл бұрын
Come on bro. That pinprick is trash we all have to face it
@lueboytheman9508
@lueboytheman9508 4 жыл бұрын
@@joesheridan9451 meh debatable... it's still fun to use.
@joesheridan9451
@joesheridan9451 4 жыл бұрын
@@lueboytheman9508 To tell the truth I've only used it like twice so I can't really comment on that. I always went towards gunlance, just seemed cooler and better lol
@SteakAhoy
@SteakAhoy 5 ай бұрын
Its really like pie. Would want to have the whole pie but its fine, or You only get 35% of the pie but it will be the best pie you’ll ever taste
@Raqdolll
@Raqdolll 4 жыл бұрын
You could argue the percentage boost would benefit lance even more, turning 10 minute fight into 7 minute one. Where as with that HBG we would be talking about roughly a minute difference. Btw Lance rules, best wishes lance main.
@mustdie27
@mustdie27 4 жыл бұрын
A minute difference with spread hbg means the hunt ends in less than a minute.
@Raqdolll
@Raqdolll 4 жыл бұрын
@@mustdie27 True, and mathematically speaking, 40% is always 40% wether it's a long or a short fight. It would be different if the bonus damage was +certain amount
@MrBlainev
@MrBlainev 4 жыл бұрын
It would be insane to get spare shot for.that build. Lol
@dibbylouder6510
@dibbylouder6510 4 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Lance
@DenBed
@DenBed 2 жыл бұрын
Heroics is a double edged sword, Yes you get an amazing 40% damage up, But is it worth it if you are constantly under the threat of getting one-shot by literally every tempered monster? You'll be carting every time the monster brushes past you, and god save you if you are fighting something that moves around a lot, Like a Rajang or something, You accidentally get hit once and that's the end of the hunt. In My opinion, If you are not an absolute god at evasions and openings(Which most people are not), Don't rely on Heroics, It will only get you killed. (Also Special Scope, Fuck that thing, It might look alright in the training area, But you'll have a fucking stroke trying to line up a perfect shot mid-battle, and this ties in with using heroics, Cuz the monster will easily be able to clap your cheeks while you are struggling to line up a single shot)
@Simba-iq9ou
@Simba-iq9ou 4 жыл бұрын
The rajang set is really not good skill wise because feline heroics gives a 35% boost and it doesn't stack with heroics so it would be better to just eat for feline heroics with a different high damage build.
@youtubeenigma8316
@youtubeenigma8316 4 жыл бұрын
But it is way more consistent, gives a higher damage boost and defense boost, and can allow you to survive master rank hits.
@MetinCrafter
@MetinCrafter 4 жыл бұрын
4:28 is that Runescape background music?
@Zolvyck1
@Zolvyck1 4 жыл бұрын
It is
@PimaKakaroto
@PimaKakaroto 4 жыл бұрын
Came for the MH, stayed because of the RS
@narutotrickzxtv3D
@narutotrickzxtv3D 4 жыл бұрын
You can argue that spread has become what cluster use to be however spread still take some level of skill since you have to hug the monster, analyze the monsters movements more and not get to greedy in between shooting or risk carting. gunners have horrible defensive body armor and usually die between 1-2 hits from certain monsters because of it. With that said I am curious if you can make this work, if you build defense boost so that you can maybe tank more hits the issue you might run into is trying to add more raw though and possibly lose some crit but I'm sure the raw damage should over look some of that.
@ItsTITANyo
@ItsTITANyo 4 жыл бұрын
dude! loving the background music in this video, brings back so much memories just hearing it!
@mechgyver3344
@mechgyver3344 Жыл бұрын
Cool and stuff but I wouldn't change the HP for that extra dmg. basically glass cannon. If you can't dodge one hit you'll be folded in half by any monster.
@erickrodriguez2813
@erickrodriguez2813 4 жыл бұрын
am i the only guy who noticed the RUNESCAPE MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND???
@SoujiroHua
@SoujiroHua 4 жыл бұрын
Can't deal any damage if you cart first. 🤔
@seamagejoe8557
@seamagejoe8557 4 жыл бұрын
I want to get into HBG, but I don’t know where to start. Should I build up ammo first?what armor and gun should I start with? Maybe there is a video out there already with this info on it?
@alexkuang1088
@alexkuang1088 4 жыл бұрын
I say if you are a high rank player then just go for the Safi build. You can use the rajang hbg to farm safi. Sticky ammo are the most reliable, they are good for everything. They are not hard to player either, if anything they are the easiest.
@seamagejoe8557
@seamagejoe8557 4 жыл бұрын
alex kuang thank you
@taloutezero
@taloutezero 4 жыл бұрын
You can buy most ammo and all 3 levels of gunpowder from the supplier. You can also use the botanical center for every ammo crafting mat.
@ramananthamotharam6557
@ramananthamotharam6557 4 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice the RuneScape music in the background?
@GinamosWithCherryOnTop
@GinamosWithCherryOnTop 4 жыл бұрын
Damage vs survivability.. I'm not a lance player but comparing a damage weapon against a defensive weapon would be a major stretch.
@ClassXero
@ClassXero 4 жыл бұрын
Just don't get hit
@joesheridan9451
@joesheridan9451 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but instead of doing the whole heroics thing you could just use this weapon with a normal high damage hbg build and get a couple shield mods with some guard and bang, suddenly you have a shield nearly as good as lance and your still dishing out the highest damage in the game. Lance sucks
@bhuwin6186
@bhuwin6186 4 жыл бұрын
Runescape music, man that hit hard
@castillorc
@castillorc 4 жыл бұрын
7:55 It seems weird to me, I have the same safi spread hbw with 3 lvl 5 attack auments(you have one lv 4) and can't reach that 322 damage you did with that one shot(max for me is 315), and on average I get about 270 with the same build.
@PokeH0bbes77
@PokeH0bbes77 4 жыл бұрын
The only issue I see this build having is that in Iceborne there really isn't any reliable way to get your health down to 35% to activate heroics. As far as I know, you can't poison yourself in this game.
@mist666999
@mist666999 4 жыл бұрын
Bombs
@alexdamas9808
@alexdamas9808 4 жыл бұрын
Easy to show the build in training area. Better to show a hunt featuring the said build.
@algernietes6118
@algernietes6118 4 жыл бұрын
bruh i laugh so hard on the lance joke.😂😂
@coolorochi
@coolorochi 4 жыл бұрын
They update your defense so you don't get one shot by archtempered
@kriscrossx122
@kriscrossx122 4 жыл бұрын
curious about the numbers for safi brac set compared to heroics. This seems good in a vacuum till you get 3 carts.
@walkthebrokenpath0
@walkthebrokenpath0 4 жыл бұрын
5 if your don't eat safeguard and insurance with this build you're missing out can't even break a part with only three carts.
@toaster4598
@toaster4598 4 жыл бұрын
ChildishCodino how often do you have to reset to even get insurance and safeguard together? That takes so long u might as well go with a bit less damage and pull up the invincible bat wing shield.
@walkthebrokenpath0
@walkthebrokenpath0 4 жыл бұрын
@@toaster4598 you can eat for safeguard or insurance when ever you want if you have all the ingredients and a voucher?
@danlorett2184
@danlorett2184 4 жыл бұрын
@@walkthebrokenpath0 No, Insurance is a daily so it's random if you get it or not. You can eat for Safeguard with a voucher though.
@walkthebrokenpath0
@walkthebrokenpath0 4 жыл бұрын
@@danlorett2184 duh how did I forget that my bad
@juanasecas98
@juanasecas98 4 ай бұрын
Hey yo hahahaha I lost it on the "Poke, poke, poke"
@ghostaire.
@ghostaire. 4 жыл бұрын
Another insane spread build, keep it up my guy!
@KouyaSakurada
@KouyaSakurada 4 жыл бұрын
Great for speedrunners and no one else.
@jacobfreeman5444
@jacobfreeman5444 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that what the meta is? Just some anti-social speedrunners proving their epeen is bigger than yours by doing more in 5 minites solo than you can do in 20 minutes in a group?
@tikko1023
@tikko1023 4 жыл бұрын
Is that Runescape playing in the background?
@TheGameconomist
@TheGameconomist 4 жыл бұрын
:)
@Filtiarin
@Filtiarin 4 жыл бұрын
Greatsword needs a huge buff
@CrossingWays
@CrossingWays 4 жыл бұрын
Taking huge poops on lance. That's weaponism! Reeeeeee!
@shafir2
@shafir2 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Runescape music
@zeromailss
@zeromailss 4 жыл бұрын
They really need to buff the lance counter attack, also increase the hop distance, and maybe increase damage over time the longer you don't heath your lance or the more counter I love playing with lance but that shit is weak at compared to the meta weapon
@heyllo1337
@heyllo1337 4 жыл бұрын
Except when Choo Choo
@TheZeroteck
@TheZeroteck 4 жыл бұрын
not gonna lie i knew the heroics secret skill was kinda broken and it was just a matter of time until someone figured out a way to use it "safely", anyways i always disliked spread ammo, like why would you stand in front of a monsters face with a ranged weapon? it makes no sense to me, always hated it never gonna use it either.
@yarro7428
@yarro7428 4 жыл бұрын
With his pie analogy, he forgets to mention that you start with one whole pie, and you get 40% additional pie. Lance is slightly less sad, but 140% of a guiness world record pie? Yeesh.
@giratina6665
@giratina6665 4 жыл бұрын
Where is the link for the updated sticky builds :( Nice work btw didn't thought of that kind of build
@facehugger8995
@facehugger8995 4 жыл бұрын
hate all these safi jiva builds when its not out haha!!
@davlar9714
@davlar9714 4 жыл бұрын
With 3 shield mods and Guard 5 I can see this actually working. Though you are very easily one-shot, but Glider mantle should be of use especially with this.
@Carson9121
@Carson9121 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see the point of this without guard..
@raydensweats5028
@raydensweats5028 4 жыл бұрын
40% of a small pie is the same as 40% of a large pie lol the effect is 40%
@raydensweats5028
@raydensweats5028 4 жыл бұрын
It is not more beneficial to a large pie. Sigh*
@zxcv5647
@zxcv5647 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao. So you are saying 40% of 100=40, and 40% of 200=80 is the same? Its double the amount cuz one is larger and double in size than the other
@HArryvajonas
@HArryvajonas 4 жыл бұрын
I always appreciate games that allow for true glass cannon builds but I only play them with characters that have some kind of teleport or evasion move. I'll pass for MH but this will be insane for speed runners.
@nazarbaig8156
@nazarbaig8156 Жыл бұрын
Great. Now im hungry.
@CineresCineribus
@CineresCineribus 4 жыл бұрын
Wait... Is that Runescape music in the background???
@trevinsingh9390
@trevinsingh9390 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for being rude, but why are you using the alpha headpiece, waist and legs? Couldn't you get a similar build with beta, but more options?
@khongguan5875
@khongguan5875 4 жыл бұрын
Damage is high when using spread 3special scope, good to use, but i think the con is the flash effect make eyes uncomfortable, too bright
@jakeryan2805
@jakeryan2805 4 жыл бұрын
That's funny i thought this was a video about strongest weapon in the game, but I see no Hunting Horn here?
@ryanmolloy5421
@ryanmolloy5421 4 жыл бұрын
Does the old rajang set count towards the rajang set bonus? Might be worth throwing that on the weapon and running 2 pieces of something else.
@darkcadia125
@darkcadia125 4 жыл бұрын
My fun in lance doesn't come from the damage at all ( *because it doesn't do damage* ) but its defensive abilities are so fun I just tank everything
@joeyanunti
@joeyanunti 4 жыл бұрын
whats the deal with the special scope? also, why long barrel and not short barrel?
@johnnydrama3829
@johnnydrama3829 4 жыл бұрын
I just can't work with heroics. What are your options to purposely get your health in that range before a fight, and then getting it back to that range after you heal from a hit? You'll be struggling with that alone during a fight and that could easily cause you to cart, especially for more difficult battles. This build is excellent on paper but too much of a hassle in battle. Sticking with TSS and a shield
@bobbyvandyke143
@bobbyvandyke143 4 жыл бұрын
How did you lower your own hp in the training area?
@LordSink17
@LordSink17 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know when safi will return on Xbox sadly after I did the recon it was the last day for the siege and I didn’t get weapons
@DenBed
@DenBed 2 жыл бұрын
.....you didn't have to beat those poor lance mains...They are already suffering from a weapon that was seriously uncared for by the devs (I like lance, I use it every now and then, But it just doesn't Scale up to the potential of the other weapons at times, I understand that its a defensive weapon, But still...(
@alvinderama3196
@alvinderama3196 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still not that good at using HBG but wouldn't that just leave you open to monster attacks? I find HBG to be much slower than GS but atleast with GS the dodge-rolls gives you enough time. Could you show as a game-play on how you use this build?
@touchthebacon5447
@touchthebacon5447 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm the only HBG main who doesn't use the scope for it, I just don't like using it. I know it boosts damage but It just feels so claustrophobic to me.
@tobiferrer2339
@tobiferrer2339 4 жыл бұрын
lance is buffed though, but not damage, but flexibility. You wont need to rely with the back hop anymore since you have the clutch counter.
@Dargonauts
@Dargonauts 3 жыл бұрын
Lol that runescape audio though
@wreckitraf8765
@wreckitraf8765 4 жыл бұрын
Would you rather switch recoil suppressor awakened ability into a mod for an attack increase V but you have to give up one close range up mod?
@giorgnnamq8108
@giorgnnamq8108 4 жыл бұрын
I loved your video, but I have a recommendation. Since some people like “wounded” damaged example, using Training area 2 would be much better to prove how far stronger the weapon actually is. X1.20 (20%) damage increase on the wounded wagon 🙀❤️!
@DTPandemonium
@DTPandemonium 4 жыл бұрын
Wagon is already a super high hitzone and wounding it only gives around 5% more damage.
@AlphaSierraHotel117
@AlphaSierraHotel117 4 жыл бұрын
Hey TGE would you consider doing a video on the new raging Brachy LBG? It has rapid fire Normal 3 and it can also do 400+ damage per shot. Easily reaching 500+
@TheGameconomist
@TheGameconomist 4 жыл бұрын
Ive heard that its more of a meme build but I can if you guys really want me to
@mightaziez
@mightaziez 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameconomist do it!!
@AlphaSierraHotel117
@AlphaSierraHotel117 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameconomist Yes, please. At least tell us how usable you think it is.
@dustinstephens1874
@dustinstephens1874 4 жыл бұрын
Seen a couple people make it , It's viable but not optimal but definitely usable
@raruterofegb
@raruterofegb 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't care less about a build that needs to be at 30%hp or damaging yourself to the point of dying by a mosquito landing on you. I'm a hbg main and love the spreadshoot builds but I don't wanna be a fuckin half-dead Man to fight a tempered elder dragon and shit.
@Walt_Chocolate
@Walt_Chocolate 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone understands heroic secret potential. I'm still trying to find out if you can put mega brachydios set bonus on the gun
@helloimlamlam4400
@helloimlamlam4400 4 жыл бұрын
No you cannot. Probably can when arch safi releases
@armityle6526
@armityle6526 4 жыл бұрын
So it seems like a great setup for speed running but very risky for normal play because u have to be below 35% hp. It’s ridiculous tho, I calculated for greatsword and Heroics secret + 2x Fortify with Safi greatsword comes out to about 2600 attack........
@wDeathw
@wDeathw 4 жыл бұрын
heroic is gonna kill me instead
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd 4 жыл бұрын
A lance with some of the best Lance damage boosting never hits that much. Unless somebody has been sacrificing children to satan so they can improve their speed runs. This heavy bow gun is unholy.
@LordSink17
@LordSink17 4 жыл бұрын
Please shut the fuck up when people say lance needs a buff which I does you never shut up and say the most annoying this I’m not a lance main but let people share there opinions that are good and have people like you be annoying
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd 4 жыл бұрын
@@LordSink17 You're one of those ones who gets so enraged you throw your own sentence off a cliff. Good work. All I got outta you is that I make you sad. Big whoop. And no, I will not be silent. Lance is very healthy, it needs no adjustments save for maybe improved elemental application. Otherwise, completely fine.
@williamcrawford4217
@williamcrawford4217 4 жыл бұрын
Lance users are the leeroy jenkins of the mhw community
@mamikosake2856
@mamikosake2856 4 жыл бұрын
Utterly useless unless you are literally a PvE god and never cart
@Badboy85USMC
@Badboy85USMC 4 жыл бұрын
So how would you feel with mixing Rajang will, with something like guts, or a Gold Rathian essence to get divine blessing maxed to help with the security of playing with such low health?
@Badboy85USMC
@Badboy85USMC 4 жыл бұрын
Or even a guard up.
@Ethromel
@Ethromel 4 жыл бұрын
I want a career as a fight club brawler, and a show gunner, that earns money from performing gun tricks.
@lucifer-ygo9793
@lucifer-ygo9793 4 жыл бұрын
Lol you can solo a full Safi siege with this 😱
@mudkiptoons5569
@mudkiptoons5569 4 жыл бұрын
WHY DID I GET RID OF MY AWAKENED SAFI BURSTCANNON FOR A AWAKENED DB?!!?? FFFFFF
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