The STUPIDEST Onside Kick in Monday Night Football HISTORY | Cardinals @ Chargers (1971)

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A video where the Chargers did something right on special teams? Never thought I'd see the day.

[@DolFan316]

Well this was 50 years ago, so...

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It's an old clip...

[@nasetvideos]

"Run time off the clock"? Wow, that truly makes no sense whatsoever. Just wow

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Drafting Trevor Lawrence and playing the triple option--LOL, love that reference :)

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At least the Football Gods laid karma down.

[@gregorylarson2640]

One other piece of information that should be mentioned. Back in those days, the clock would continue to run on a change of possession situation like a kickoff. Here is the entire original broadcast of the game. Notice that the Chargers call a timeout soon after recovering the onside kick. Taking that into account as well, it makes the onside kick decision even more curious. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5m4h4KsiZiDj6s

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It's weird the Chargers were located closer to Phoenix than the Cardinals

[@charliechristopher9005]

The Cardinals weren't in Phoenix yet, they were in Saint Louis

[@Saltiren]

@@charliechristopher9005 Yes and the Chargers were not in Los Angeles, they were in San Diego

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I mean the Cards were in St Louis for a very long time.

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1. Getting the ball late in a tie game just to run time off the clock? That’s a Dumb Decision! Sincerely, Ara Parseghian 2. The unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian is back! He’s back to remind everyone you made another video about a Dumb Decision the Cardinals made on special teams during another Monday Night Football game.

[@levikatriel]

As another unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian, he also made a video about another chargers cardinals game, where the cardinals nearly came back from down 28 at the half on the road. The lost the game though due to a dropped pass on fourth and goal that would have given the cards the lead with about a minute left.

[@DolFan316]

@@levikatriel I never knew Cardinals-Chargers games could be so fascinating until I discovered this channel. Now my eyes have been opened to a whole new world.

[@marcus813]

I would love to see him make a video on that Cardinals/Chargers game that FOX aired on a Saturday and had only analysts Jimmy Johnson and Terry Bradshaw in the booth. No play-by-play announcer.

[@mfdixon1985]

What's crazy is that with his approach, he would have looked worse had the kick succeeded. Kicking off from the 40, a successful onside kick would have had them with the ball at midfield. With the goalposts on the goal line, that's about a 55-60 yard FG. With most kickers still doing the straight on approach, that's probably out of range for most. But not by much. It wasn't like they'd need a 30 yard pass play to get into range or anything. This would be like trying a Hail Mary, getting a pass interference call and then just taking a knee.

[@cheetohands9]

When I saw there were 4 minutes left in the video and he was praising the decision I was like ok what’s the catch, then he read the coaches reasoning and it was worse than I could’ve imagined

[@classicsports5057]

Don Coryell would coach both these teams later this decade and pretty much change offense as we know it.

[@fredleeland2464]

Him and Joe Gibbs definitely changed the way offense was played..yet only one is in the HOF

[@DolFan316]

@@fredleeland2464 Well winning multiple Super Bowls does help with that a bit. Look how long it took Tom Flores with his two rings to get in.

[@nala3038]

@@DolFan316 i’m not a Raiders fan, but that would’ve been a travesty if Flores never got in

[@itstricky316]

It looked like #23 for Chargers false started before the fumble. They would still have the ball.

[@Rockhound6165]

Not necessarily. He came up then back down then the ball was snapped and he fumbled. A flag would be thrown and would be declined. Something similar happened in SBXV. The Eagles threw what appeared to be a tying TD but Harold Charmichael, who was in motion, turned up field a hair early and drew the flag negating the TD. Now if an offensive lineman did the same thing as in this game, then the flag is immediately thrown and the play blown dead as O-Lineman must not move until the ball is snapped.

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I really enjoy your videos. I know a lot about the history of the NFL, but I find myself learning something new with a lot of your videos. For instance, I didn't know that at one point there was no overtime in the regular season. That explains why a lot of teams' records from back in the day included so many ties.

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@Matt Joseph Learned something else new!

[@DolFan316]

@Matt Joseph I saw this right after making the same comment, *D'OH~!*

[@billslocum9819]

I think Hollway just misspoke at the press conference, maybe blurring his thinking on the process that led to the onside kick (running out clock when they were in the lead, until Montgomery's fumble) to the actual kick itself. It makes no sense to be pondering time management strategy in a 17-second game.

[@mrmonty86]

The Cardinals coach had a huge brain fart.

[@MrDunloMusic]

Wildest part of the video to me is the missed obvious false start on Montgomery at 3:46… the play should have been blown dead before it ever happened.

[@CTubeMan]

Karma?

[@ReveiwKing999]

5:11 Shows how used I am to your later work that I expected a "Welcome to Dumb Decisions" right there.

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"WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU DOING?!"

[@bobscott2429]

That's Lou Saban level right there. As head coach with the Broncos vs. Oilers in 1969: "They're killing me, Whitey (assistant coach Whitey Dovell), they're killing me." And with the Bills vs. Dolphins in 1974: "God Almighty...God, I don't believe it....WHAT ARE WE DOING???"

[@DolFan316]

Ironically, after being the Vikings defensive coordinator from '69-70 and their D-line coach 2 years before that, Hollway would rejoin the Vikings as DC from '78-85 just as they were losing all their top talent on that side of the ball.

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

I can understand why he went for the onside kick if he was trying to win and there is no overtime. But if he was really just trying to run out the clock, then this made NO sense.

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The most likely scenario is that the coach misspoke after the game.

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I think this is the coach who said to his players in the locker room, "it's hot out there, so let's blow 'em off the line of scrimmage!"

[@j.p.pelzman7481]

For future reference, the Cards' longtime kicker's name was pronounced Jim BOCK-en. No biggie, just letting you know. You did correct how you are pronouncing the Mike-Mayer kickers, so good on you. As always, great channel. I give it a much higher rating than 39.6.

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I thought the same thing.

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I hate it when people's names aren't pronounced the way they're spelled, that's so annoying. I say there needs to be a law passed forcing people to do it. Seriously.

[@bobscott2429]

Also, the Chargers' kicker's name is Dennis Par-TEE. not PAR-ty.

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Ardent supporter who is a little depressed after you said "let's go back half a century" and realized I was alive then. Only an infant, but still.

[@markgraham2312]

I remember this game. And, yes, it was the stupidest onside kick in MNF history. The Cardinals attempted an on-side kick as a squib kick to prevent the long return. It was a total disaster and to my knowledge has never been repeated since. You didn't watch the original broadcast. I did. The call is indefensible. In fact, it was NOT an on-side kick. It was a pathetic attempt of a squib kick to prevent the long return. Also, the kicker's name is pronounced Baak-en, not Back-in.

[@CTubeMan]

An NFC East team was trailing in a road game to a team that scored 17 points. That NFC East team threw an interception in the final two minutes. Their opponents then botched a handoff that the NFC East team recovered. The NFC East team then scored a touchdown. That’s the last time this exact scenario happened in NFL history.

[@tylerlarsen1842]

Aren't the Cardinals in the NFC We- *remembers that they were in St. Louis at the time* -oh, right

[@kyle1910]

Also FWIW back then, even though the # of ties a team had were posted in published standings, they didn't count toward a team's winning percentage. In terms of their winning percentage it was as if the game never happened. It just so turns out the starting with the very next season ties counted for each team as half a game won and half a game lost.

[@pullt]

A win is still best in either method, ie.... 9-5 (.642)is still better than 8-5-1 (.615 old, .607 new).... That rule nuance really only ended up ever mattering if a team had two ties (or in the very early NFL where teams played different numbers of games)

[@DolFan316]

And then because ties were getting so out of control OT was instituted for regular season games in '74 with the very first such game ending in...a tie.

[@levikatriel]

Is this supposed to be dumb decisions or in defense of? I think this video has both.

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A new hybrid: A dumb Defense of

[@mrmoose6619]

It started as an In Defense Of... at least the logic was sound... until we see why Coach did what he did... then it's truly dumb decisions.

[@CTubeMan]

Yes

[@CTubeMan]

But how does this compare to spiking the ball on the ground on every single play?

[@toddbiesel4288]

Dumb Decisions, disguised as In Defense Of.

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Hey,he was trying to improve his rating by spiking the ball on however many downs he could get if he got the ball back,you can't blame him for that.

[@pullt]

An alternate theory might be that he just brainfarted when asked about the play in the postgame interview after the still unlikely game winning FG drive won the Chargers the game. In those days coaches were far less media savvy, they didn't have postgame press conferences every game...no weekly radio show on 103.1 The SportsZone after DriveTime with Mickey and The Bull....no half hour TV show, etc, etc.... I've no way to know that happened, but could be plausible. "Shit, they got the ball back and scored....way better if we'd have recovered, etc, etc"

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50 Years Ago

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Frank Gifford's first season as play-by-play announcer on MNF, replacing Keith Jackson. Frank finished his final year as a broadcaster with CBS in 1970.

[@HeathNation2465]

Why do these games between the Cardinals and Chargers always have weird stuff going on?

[@WVUer21]

Kind of follows neither has won a Super Bowl.

[@DolFan316]

Maybe it's got something to do with the nicknames being so close alphabetically? Only explanation I can think of.

[@Pika250]

Speaking of onside kick, what about eagles at cowboys 2003?

[@ReverendBenzo]

What about it?

[@derekcabanaw1789]

Hollway should have been fired before he got to the locker room instead of becoming the 4-9-1 man.

[@davidnelson6874]

Jim Bakken once kicked seven field goals in one game and held the record for a long time. Bakken’s last name was pronounced “Bocken.” I know cuz I’m from a long line of Bakkens and remember the announcers pronouncing it the right way, back in the day. By the way, my mom’s brother’s name is Jim Bakken. It’s Norwegian to the core.

[@DolFan316]

4:09 Cid Edwards would ironically go on to play for the Chargers the next three seasons.

[@MillionaireWizard]

As bad as Bob Hollway's decision was, Lou Saban had it even worse. Ironically, in that same season, the Denver Broncos and the Miami Dolphins were playing and Saban decided to run out the clock to preserve the tie, infamously saying, "Half a Loaf is Better than None". And oh boy, the Denver faithful responded by pelting loaves of bread and hot dogs during a home game later that season.

[@aegisofhonor]

Hollyway would get a tie later that season and only win one more game ending that season and the next with 4-9-1. He was dismissed by the Cardinals in 1972 and never got a head coaching job ever again.

[@fraz72]

Omg run time off the clock, that what makes it a stupid call. He could at least been hopeful to win because the field position was there to win if they recovered the inside kick

[@beast1160]

That should of been a dumb moment!!

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Hey, I'm not super into football, but I think it's cool to see videos about my grandpa's old team. I'm Sam Gruneisn's (Chargers) grand son

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St. Louis Pigeons: 4-9-1 in 1969, 4-9-1 in 1971, 1972, and 1973.

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How you found actual ABC highlights of this game? I thought most of the broadcasted NFL games prior to 1976 were lost.

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Especially considering that there is no game coverage around of Super Bowl II.

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Going through life being called "Bum". 😐

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Try pronouncing Oail without help

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If you played for the Detroit Lions, you get used to it. 🤣

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Still better than a grown man going through life called Lovie.

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[@gordons-alive4940]

I really wish they'd got it now, hearing that explanation. Get the onside kick only to run the clock out at midfield? That'd have been soemthing.

[@andrewpadaetz5549]

One Non Onside Kick decision has always struck me as odd-after the famous Garo Gaffe in Super Bowl VII, why didn't George Allen attempt an onside kick? You need a TD to tie and if it works, you have the ball in Miami territory with your timeouts. By not doing so, Washington got the ball back in their territory with about 1 minute left and no timeouts...and lost 14-7. Sure, Miami would be expecting the kick but if executed properly, Washington gets the ball.

[@DolFan316]

We want the ball and we're gonna...tie???

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Nice Matt Hasselbeck reference! (In Matt's case.....We want the ball and we're gonna let the other team score on a pick six!)

[@juliuskurtz8143]

It make sense to try the unside kick

[@dtimer04]

Love these videos, but slowwww it down a little. Our boy JaguarGator sounds like he had six cups of coffee before recording.

[@PaulGaither]

I watch on 2x speed, as he says a lot to pad out to those 10+ minute marks.

[@jamesage24]

The coach's press conference explanation really ticked off JG9.

[@ShrexyGuy]

In hindsight jags may have been better off last year in the triple option. Hard to throw 21 picks in an offense that runs 400 times

[@Bo_Nix_i_trust]

BOB HALLWAY IS NOT SMART

[@F40PH-2CAT]

I think these dumb decisions are getting to you, man 😆

[@d0nKsTaH]

I think people are reading too much into this... IF the Cards had got the onside kick you know dang well they would have attempted to go down and get the win. C'mon people... the coach was trying to think up anything he could to get off the stove top burner at the time he said that and he ended up causing the heat to be turned him higher much to his own personal disliking. Now... had this actually played out... THEN it would have been the dumbest onside kick in MNF history. Because who kicks an onside kick... recovers it.. and then runs the time out to enjoy the tie? No one. Only then would it have truly been a bone headed thing to do. But because they attempted to get the ball back it can always be viewed as a genuine attempt to avoid a tie and try to win. Had he kicked it deep... that would have been a "give up" play.

[@DolFan316]

Speaking of reading too much, nice novel 😋

[@nala3038]

@@DolFan316 his post is nothing compared to a couple of 45-50 paragraph “novels” I read recently on KZbin

[@christopherengel7436]

You were looking for a reason only Cardinals fans might now who Bob Holloway is. Purple People Eaters? Great job. Cardinals Head Coach? Not so much

[@tompiper1480]

Why didn't the Cardinals go for 2 points at the end. That onside kick play made no sense

[@thatsmrtguy4935]

The two point conversion didn't exist until 1994 or 23 years after this play

[@tompiper1480]

@@thatsmrtguy4935 oh okay

[@Coyotek4]

It's better to be quiet and thought a fool, rather than open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

[@thatsmrtguy4935]

Takes one to know one

[@Coyotek4]

@@thatsmrtguy4935 Swish!

[@ronsmac]

3-5-1 wasn’t going to help the cardinals.

[@patrickkilduff5272]

Going for it on 4th and 2 and then taking a knee to go to overtime makes sense to me. If you dont have a good bunch of plays that can push the ball far down field...but have a great run game, you want time... and not throw an interception. Plus you want to keep the ball out of the opposing teams hands. Its all situational. Lets say you are the Ravens vs KC...you know you cant throw a 50 yard TD...but you know you can pick up 2 yards 80% of the time on the ground...you also know Mahommes CAN throw 80 yard TDs all day...you would MUCH rather risk overtime then give Mahommes the ball with any time left on any part of the field...

[@CTubeMan]

I gotta say this, the NFL didn’t have regular season overtime when this game was played.