This man just said “in-line boxer engine” I’m crying 😂
@Incountry4 жыл бұрын
I think he was trying to explain crank is longitude as opposed to transverse layout...
@krzaku19834 жыл бұрын
He also described defender suspension as fully independent 😂
@will0064 жыл бұрын
he also said the defender's "fully independent suspension"
@Incountry4 жыл бұрын
krzaku1983 It is, it’ll independently break and fall off... front trailing arm bushes under axel, spheres, rear A arm on axel, rear dampers split at bases.... if you like them, then keep on trucking.!!!
@tyson91554 жыл бұрын
I noticed it and the video is now paused to never play again on my phone
@MrSpookylukey8 жыл бұрын
Fully independent suspension on the defender? You only have to take a 5 second glance to realise it's not independent
@Zach_A8 жыл бұрын
+MrSpookylukey Came here to say this. Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.
@TnFJ624 жыл бұрын
Must be super custom for independent suspension on that Defender!
@simpleinverso86284 жыл бұрын
@@TnFJ62 what a makeover then
@johnlatsch97202 жыл бұрын
Defender is coil springs on solid axles. For superior flexibility.
@arigato77884 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, a very representative off-road test-track that is fully paved, the Defender's legendary independent suspensions and Subaru's famous inline Boxer engine.
@dhino_yt_gaming3 жыл бұрын
Hah🤣
@reikiessence112 жыл бұрын
💀
@nunkimine3 жыл бұрын
Subaru is a very capable car and I can understand how the landrover's fans get crazy by comparison between the two. Subaru XV is more than enough for the family living in the suburbs which have harsh winter.
@libaaxalee4 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt Subaru's are wonderful cars. I had Subaru impreza manual and I loved it really much specially during winter, it was an amazing car. I had to let it go since I had to change clutch twice before it reached 100K which to me, it was a money pit. Furthermore, I was not even a harsh driver at all.
@joek81981 Жыл бұрын
Where I lived, the one is three times the price of the other. Meaning you could use two of the Crosstreks as a ramp and drive the third one over them, getting you places where the Defender could only dream of going.
@spyrolover248 жыл бұрын
Its funny how many people are butthurt. You people need to realize that subarus are very capable vehicles. My family is a Subaru family. We've impressed soo many people with what our cars can do. We once took our 98 outback up a mountain where the people that lived at the top had an h1 and a lifted truck just to get up. Once we got up there they asked us how the hell we got up here. We just replied, because it's a Subaru. So before all you people start saying that the Subaru would do horribly in a different environment, you are wrong. Yes it may not do as well, but they do make lifts for these cars and it's much cheaper than buying a land Rover like that. And yes they have gotten a bit soft lately, unlike the old rugged subarus, but they can still do amazing things when it comes to off roading.
@sunnydlight23756 жыл бұрын
it's all about the indoor cat, larpers pretending to be something they're not. the frail suburban feminized man driving his subaru larping as a true off road vehicle. it's because on the surface it looks like yeah! subaru can do anything! its FAAR FROM TRUE. people like TRUTH. .... not larping keyboard warriors. Subarus have intelligent traction control THATS IT. its good for traction situations and minor articulation. It's 'good' and light'. but it CANNOT handle true rugged off road. it's just so cringe worthy to listen to pasty white suburban americans posing. it's all Larping Culture, a big theme in today's social media era where you can just say one thing. Come to Australia or South Africa and test your little subarus. they'll bend and tear apart!
@diemf506 жыл бұрын
@@sunnydlight2375 i think alot of the time its the driver... Ive had to help out offroad vehicles that look unstoppable with my outback. Not saying its the best , but its done me great
@bolwell6 жыл бұрын
Never fails to give me a little giggle when people refer to Australia or South Africa as having the "toughest" conditions. Grew up in Australia, lived and worked in the Pilbara for 6 years and yeah it can be challenging, but since traveling and working in a lot of other countries around the world, including Africa, there are plenty of places out there with wayyyyyy tougher driving conditions.
@williambissell7946 жыл бұрын
They kick ass in the snow and ice too. We have about 4-5 months of winter driving here and Subaru is one of the top brands. We get a good bit of snow most years here in N. Idaho.
@blazetownsend87856 жыл бұрын
Luke Skywalking I have spent my early life in the mountains in Alaska. We used all sorts of vehicles, pickup trucks, a various variety of cars, RV's. And we found two vehicles that worked well to get to areas many trucks and the like couldn't to get to. Subaru, and a Trail 90. It's true, that some of these trucks, with modifications, can get over these big rocks and the like, but much of the time, it was because they were so large, that they had to go over them, instead of around. Subaru is very capable, and we used their engine on our dredge. Because we were miners of gold, and had to get to remote river areas to get to our claim. Much of the time, even the Trail 90 couldn't get us there, so we had to walk, but still, we got more places, and closer when we used these things.
@Backs4more6 жыл бұрын
My Outback was incredibly capable and in some circumstances, was better off road or in bad conditions then my Discovery. Ice, snow, wet fields on a slope, rough roads, all in its stride. The discovery was too heavy and agricultural when the going got slippy. Of course, in deep mud, deep ruts and deep water, the disco was better.
@FPShkED8 жыл бұрын
4:23 "There is no intended comparison between a Land Rover and a Subaru." Yet, they compare it in this video....lol. Not bashing this video though because I love Subies
@MrStevecro5 жыл бұрын
it was just showing the Sube's capability against a vehicle the Brits with their residual "empire" mentality like to think as untouchable. The little XV is better at everything not off-road and can hold its own here. Big accolades
@trenguy254 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the mighty Defender with its "full independent suspension" This guy is just clueless XD
@konstantindufnik6964 жыл бұрын
And the inline boxer engine
@Electronicsandsirens4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why I was confused when he said the land rover had fully independent suspension.
@Rainbow_Room4 жыл бұрын
no he was just 4 years ahead of his time.
@dhino_yt_gaming3 жыл бұрын
@@Rainbow_Room haha the new defender
@MartinJones1232 жыл бұрын
The narrator sounds a little bit like Jeremy Clarkson!
@ChangeIGYB Жыл бұрын
The irony in this video for me is insane. This was one of the first videos I saw of the Crosstrek's offroad capability before I bought mine. Years later, a lot of time and money put into making my Crosstrek as offroad capable I as I could make it. It was 2" lift, Geolander G003 M/Ts 215/75r15s, engine skid plate, and a whole bunch of other goodies. I took it out on a beach last summer, a beach I have been to many times. I drove to one end, turned around, drove to the other end which has a channel running inland. I go to turn around, and lose all forward momentum and dug myself into a hole with M/T tires (I didnt air down enough). My mistake on my part; I went from 40psi to 20psi thinking that would be enough but it wasnt. The tide was coming in about 8 inches every 30 minutes. With my car 8 or so feet away from the water, it was making me really nervous. On the other side of the channel (of water), was beach with some residents. People would walk down the beach, spot me from about 75 feet away, and just stare for a few seconds, and turn around and walk away. 5 or so people/groups of people did the same thing over the span of an hour and a half. Until this one man. He was walking towards me, and I was at the point of feeling helpless, so I didnt really think too much of him, until he was on the other side of the channel which was only about 15 or so feet from me. He asked "Are you stuck?" I responded "Yes I am, can you help me?" He replies, "I can't but I have a buddy with an old ass Defender that lives on this beach over here that can probably get you out." And sure enough within 10 minutes of waiting, I see this 1980s Land Rover Defender appear from the trail entrance approximately 1 mile from where I was stuck. This Defender was loaded; winch, front and rear diff lockers, A/T tires (which float on sand) 4low and 4high, manual, turbo diesel... Honestly put my Crosstrek to shame with its pathetic open differentials. Dont even get me started on that. With a few tugs of the winch, he was able to get me out and moving back to the trail and off the beach. I havent offroaded the Crosstrek since that day. That day has humbled me from offroading; with the potential to lose my car in such a way was a huge reality check for me. If it wasnt for that dude to stumble upon me on his morning beach walk, and be willing to ask his friend to beat on his vehicle to come and get me out, to this day I am still in shock. Now stumbling upon this video again after all this time, and the experience I had, the world just has a funny way of working out I guess.
@mikalrain Жыл бұрын
Thank you for writing and sharing. That was a great story. And so my supicions are confirmed. "Sports utility vehicles" (SUVs) really should be called "Sub-urban vehicle." There is nothing sporty about them and off-road they are not. Oh, and if you ever consider parking your car under water, make sure it is a Hi-Lux. A BBC programme you know showed us it can take it - and then some :)
@beauttahmwai77808 ай бұрын
Chilling, great writing too
@bagzhansadvakassov10933 ай бұрын
Great read. If only your subi had x mode.
@ChangeIGYB3 ай бұрын
@@beauttahmwai7780 Thanks a bunch!
@ChangeIGYB3 ай бұрын
@@bagzhansadvakassov1093 Thanks a lot! And if only! Still open diffs but maybe it would have helped… them MT tires tho, acted like shovels.
@51WCDodge8 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I've run Land Rovers, two at present, a Discovery 2 and a P38, plus two 1944 3/4 Dodge WC vehicles. I also rebuild Land Rovers for fun. And I've had Subaru. The Subaru is a very capable off road vehicle, and not on prepared test tracks, in the right deep shite. If I wanted to tow a horse box up a 1:4 , and yes I've done it, then I'd use a Defender, if I wanted to tour around the country in a vehicle that will deal with most things, I'd have the Subaru.
@MarthaMansbridge4 жыл бұрын
‘There is no intended comparison between these two’ - here’s a whole video comparison....
@TheNoobOffice8 жыл бұрын
"With its in-line Boxer engine" Mate please you contradicted yourself in your own statement.
@yarpos6 жыл бұрын
well it lines up with something , sorta, if you squint a bit
@arthursouthall59676 жыл бұрын
I made me what to die
@guardrail28975 жыл бұрын
He meant the 2 cylinders were inline on each side.
@bob154795 жыл бұрын
I think that was a reference to "symmetrical all wheels drive" and the in-line balanced drivetrain that subaru touts.
@MWorsa5 жыл бұрын
Rusty obviously meant longitudinal as opposed to transverse duh 🤓
@ethangee968 жыл бұрын
Also baring in mind that the mechanicals of the defender haven't been changed in about 400 years....
@crashandburnbirner8 жыл бұрын
huh?
@ethangee968 жыл бұрын
I'm saying, it doesn't have any of this fancy symmetrical all wheel drive stuff, and all these electrical aids. its still essentially the same car underneath as the defender from the 80s
@RonniePoleCasper8 жыл бұрын
+Ethan Gee Yup lets compare a fossil to a modern car
@ethangee968 жыл бұрын
RonniePoleCasper pretty much :D
@MidwestDIY8 жыл бұрын
+Ethan Gee the 1980s Land Cruisers and 4Runners are still considered the better for offroad than their current versions.
@MCMLXXXIV19843 жыл бұрын
For average drivers the Subaru is simply the more suitable vehicle in an off-road environment. But when it comes to real rough off-road conditions the Defender offers more reserves to the skilled driver.
@krasky Жыл бұрын
That's basically what the narrator said at the end of this video.
@monunyabidness59494 жыл бұрын
0:52 "it's fully independent suspension" Not sure which Defender you were talking about there
@simpleinverso86284 жыл бұрын
He's taking too much drugs don't be mean!
@craiga65574 жыл бұрын
00:57 but wait, it can't possibly be... An axle!
@InvisibilityComment8 жыл бұрын
Now take it off the concrete track and in to a slushy muddy field/off road track if you want a fair test.
@BernonCars8 жыл бұрын
Both equipped with good MT tires, its a close tie
@InvisibilityComment8 жыл бұрын
This test is flawed though, when going over the planks at the end, he said something about the LR being hard to control etc, even though he was going quite a bit quicker.. Also if he used the LRs low range gear box he wouldn't have the troubles which they moaned about.
@larry3658 жыл бұрын
+ThatGearHead™ No, it really isn't.
@gibbethoskins86218 жыл бұрын
apart from the fact that the Subaru would probably loose it's front bumper, side sill and rear bumper, and incur under body damage, and articulation would be a big issue. If you honestly think it would be a tie in realistic off road scenario, to think that would it would be a tie is unrealistic.
@MarchuxProductions7 жыл бұрын
On decent tires, a muddy field (as per OP's comment) would be a cake walk for the XV. Now, of course, in proper off road situations, the Defender is MILES better, but on a field and on the same tires, it'd be close to a tie.
@LycanPaw7 жыл бұрын
I have an XV Crosstrek, and bought it when it came out after test driving over 5 different cars in its class and SUV. the video is right, this little thing is a beast off road. living in Canada, snow is plentiful and it never gave up. my wife drives it now, as I have BMW x5 with a V8 engine in it. the only shortcoming on the xv is the small 2.0 engine. gives us a turbo or a V6 in it and I'll trade my Bimmer for it...I think.
@jonallan35668 жыл бұрын
Albeit they're comparing an old LR to a new Subie, I have to say that my 2014 XV is probably the best vehicle I have ever owned. I have the same model shown in the video above, but with manual transmission instead.
@oddities-whatnot2 жыл бұрын
In the UK, a rare sight indeed with a manual box. I do like the Subaru CVT though, I had to downsize from an Outback. Maybe one day I will get another, or the Levorg. Im not into the hybrid models.
@johnstidworthy3370 Жыл бұрын
me too, with dual ratio, unstoppable.
@BelloBudo0078 жыл бұрын
I think Subaru make wonderful cars and if I didn't require a serious 4x4 with lift and snorkel for river crossings, then I'd have one in a flash. In my opinion they're ideal for both the city and country driver. I think it's their sure footed-ness, when the road gets wet, that appeals to me.
@HoofHearted2DAY8 жыл бұрын
Agreed... I grew up in FNQ & wet season/driving over the Great Dividing Range twice a day meant EVERYONE had Subarus, including my folks whom I picked the Gen 1 Forester for back in late 90s. PS thanks for the childhood reminisce of Blinky Bill lol
@roberttaylor49186 жыл бұрын
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@oddities-whatnot2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 Impreza hatchback in the UK, one of those rare oddities with a 1.6 NA engine and manual transmission. Its a very comfy car, got it for all weather handling, it goes round corners at silly speeds if you so wish, it can easily lose more powerful cars on winding country roads.
@Mp57navy8 жыл бұрын
So, when are you going off-road? I can drive all day long on a parking lot. Arrival/departure/ramp angles, air intake height? That's what matters. Stop comparing rally cars to off-roaders. Most places a real 4x4 goes, the Subaru designs will simply rip off their bumpers, or ruin their undercarriage.
@camaroman1018 жыл бұрын
+Mp57navy exactly, a concrete course proves nothing
@jmen88888 жыл бұрын
I agree. I have a Crosstrek, and before I go serious off-roading, I have to install a full skid plate underneath. It would help if I had a 3" lift so I don't damage the front or rear. Haven't seen any Crosstrek's yet with a lift.
@kurtiswood82858 жыл бұрын
+jmen8888 dude there's a lot of crosstreks out there with lifts and they look bad ass. if you want to lift yours go to Anderson design fabrication and get yourself a lift kit!!!!
@moniquebramwell57998 жыл бұрын
Subarus are low in general. I hated the sound of the undercarriage scrapping each time I drive in rough terrains. But I have to hand it to them, the ride is smooth and it climbs anything.
@justine.35766 жыл бұрын
Very wrong. Everything you just said is wrong lol. I see people doing crazy things with their crosstreks all the time here in arizona, and it navigates rocks and good sized boulders fine.
@tigergreg88 жыл бұрын
Can you please send me a Subaru XV for me to do my own independent test, I will give you the full results after a few yrs of driving. Thanks.
@nigmosh658 жыл бұрын
Lmao, smooth.
@51WCDodge8 жыл бұрын
+tigergreg8 The one they should bring back is the ?Justy, That was a unique vehicle back in the day when Subaru sold through tractor dealers. It was the size and roughly the shape of a Mini Metro, normally a front wheel drive, press button hey presto 4x4. Used to be called the Farmer's wife's car, and aI know a lot of Farmers and thier wives who miss it.
@owenrichards26228 жыл бұрын
+51WCDodge we had 2 justys from brand new. Fantastic cars - i dont know why they were disliked by all the motoring journalists Great for the winter at our farm house
@tigergreg88 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing one of those. Well, it's like the CRX I have, why did they discontinue an awesome car. only to create a flop, that they had to discontinue.
@51WCDodge8 жыл бұрын
Oh I agree with you on the Justy. When Subaru first came in they were sold through agricultural dealears. That's were I got my first experience of the initial 1600 cc pick ups. Luxury after Land Rovers. The Justy became known as the Farmer's wife's car. It did exactaly what it should, got around in coditions that would stop most small cars.
@Propnut482 жыл бұрын
I have a dealership stock 2020 Outback and my daughters both have Jeep 4 door Wranglers. One is bone stock and the other is a highly modded one with a slight lift , big tires and lockers and disconnectable sway bar. I have no problem going anywhere they do and have gone a few they can’t. I put it in X mode and off I go. I am now a life long Susie owner.
@williamgrand97248 жыл бұрын
If Jeremy Clarkson and Christopher Hitchens fused that being would sound like this guy.
@rockymountboy6 жыл бұрын
I immediately thought this myself! lol
@JohnCranberry238 жыл бұрын
Mine will arrive in two weeks - Black with Black leather. Can't wait!
@geethsan15678 жыл бұрын
+JohnCranberry23 Black with Black. Oh man, that is sexy.
@nicksofialakis14485 жыл бұрын
GREAT CHOICE
@florinteodorescu34444 жыл бұрын
Nice. Now put a 10x5 trailer on the hook and jump in 20 inches of snow or mud to see the differences. You can't compare apples with pears mate. Subaru is a very good SUV, but is not an offroader.
@stevenreeves13945 жыл бұрын
Great video. I think what people are really getting at is that after you account for ground clearance, this test demonstrates what the vast majority (90%) of real world users will do with their vehicles and thus the Subaru is a perfectly reasonable choice. On the other hand, this test only taxes about 20% of the LandRover's actual capability. Put that same Subaru through the same kind of environment plus 6 inches of mud/snow/sand, plus obstacles much more varied than here, and then do it at 2x speed for 500 or 1,000 miles and I'll take the Land Rover any day. All that said I drive a LR Disco II and bought my mother the Subaru. We're both quite content with our vehicles.
@volt86842 жыл бұрын
Boxer engines have reliability issues
@HardLordd Жыл бұрын
@@volt8684 they don't.
@volt8684 Жыл бұрын
@@HardLordd deluded
@HardLordd Жыл бұрын
@@volt8684 they fixed a lot of issues when new FB came out in 2010s. My outback is very reliable
@300bhpton8 жыл бұрын
I own both a Subaru and a Land Rover, so I'm unbiased as I like both marques. But I'm very unimpressed with this dross. What did you do, forget to use the centre diff lock on the Land Rover? And I assume you pulled the fuse on the TCS for the Defender or deliberately speced one without it (unlikely based on it being a County Puma model). I'm not knocking the Subaru. But a 1990's Freelander 1 would conquer that course just as easily. And it's not exactly real world off road. I offer an open invite to Subaru UK to come and re-run this test against a Defender on real off road terrain. I can provide the location (south Bedfordshire) and a Defender.
@sunnydlight23756 жыл бұрын
shhhh dont tell the indoor cats this. they dont get things like differentials and such. they just think about progressivism and such. dont smash their delusions! subaruuuu yaaaaaaaaaah. the choice for feminists and progressives. the ultimate Larpers Dream.
@acrosstundras5 жыл бұрын
@@sunnydlight2375 what's the connection between Subaru and progressivists?
@timfrolov78915 жыл бұрын
@@acrosstundras you
@F6garage4 жыл бұрын
the freelander 1 would smash it and the defender did it pretty much in front wheel drive lol
@MarthaMansbridge4 жыл бұрын
I think you’d get an Austin Maestro up that hill with the steps.
@SgtMcNasty3 жыл бұрын
I own an XV and a Defender. Testing on a concrete track is a poor place see the difference. Both are good at different things and overlaps in some. If I wanna go far but have some off road capacity I take the XV. If I need brute off road capacity I take the Defender.
@9fiveb1804 жыл бұрын
The overall weight, center of gravity, approach/central clearance/exit angles, and tires are the most important differences in the way any vehicle will perform on the same off-road terrain. Then it’s the manufacturer’s particular all or 4 wheel drive system that will either get you moving again after a stop, or struggle trying. There’s an endless amount of factors that play a part in what we deem “Better” than something else. Most people only care about their own personal experience and when you factor in the way money has the ability to change one’s perspective, whether it be from a point of an abundance of that of lack..... The individual must always be open to expanding their knowledge gained from their own personal experience, and accept that it has the ability to change as time passes. Relay this to the manufacturer directly, and if they are a company who takes these things seriously and knows the importance of quality over quantity, we will all enjoy our experience more. No matter what we end up choosing.
@victoryepik9 ай бұрын
I like crossovers that actually describe they're category Cross-over like offroad and this one does it really well while being really practical and daily usable
@darkh2o7163 жыл бұрын
My Subaru 2013 XV can definitely match near any vehicle off-road. I trust it more than I trust my truck which has greater clearance. I have the advantage of a manual transmission as well. Mine has 170k and have been in places others have told me I should not have gotten into and have never been stranded. My BEST vehicle ever and will likely purchase another eventually with a manual and perhaps a 2 inch lift. As a prospector and outdoorsman I need a solid ride. My Crosstrek is also a great highway car and has been coast to coast as well as North to South. Keep in mind I inspect my vehicles regularly and take very good care of them. Best from AZ.
@davidlodiemyer56985 жыл бұрын
I have a subbie Forester and I wouldn't think of taking it seriously off roading, but on the other hand I would love that Red land rover for just that !
@tylercarrell4 жыл бұрын
This video sounds like it was made in the 1970’s
@ciprianteodor20266 жыл бұрын
Proud to be the owner of the new 2018 subaru.Go subi
@KonorSacks8 жыл бұрын
I also love how you can not hear the motor, and it is different camera angles for both...
@MrUnderEstimated8 жыл бұрын
+Konor Sacks not biased, totally fair comparison - subaru
@sjschauer42355 жыл бұрын
Not that I would take mine across such terrain, but I love that my Crosstrek can do this,
@jeepmanxj8 жыл бұрын
Lol, I love my Subaru but I could have taken a fucking 90's neon through this course.
@BernonCars8 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see it try lmao
@jeepmanxj8 жыл бұрын
The only place I see an issue is the octagonal concrete posts. Even that isn't a big deal. People far underestimate what a car can do and where it can go.
@EvLSpectre8 жыл бұрын
+User Name But that is like saying my slammed miata can make it through this course. Will it? yes. Will it survive and drive away? No.
@jeepmanxj8 жыл бұрын
Don't be so sure. Many of these new cross over vehicles and "suvs" do not sit nearly as high as you think they do, they don't have nearly the breakover or approach and departure angles you would think either. I'm not entirely familiar with the miata but again I wouldn't sell any vehicle short. I watched a guy take a old Buick through an obstical course at a off road capability display one year after the show closed and they were cleaning up.
@EvLSpectre8 жыл бұрын
User Name I know they do not sit high. Most trucks and suvs from factory have bumpers and subframes as low or lower than your average sedan. My car sits about 3" of the ground, but I would just floor it and jump it over the obstacles. Hell the average sedan now in days could make it through the course, but it would be pretty brutal on the cars chassis.
@maxauerbach85018 жыл бұрын
I own a WRX and abosolutely love it but I still choose the Defender if given the choice
@ibetrollintheybehatin68574 жыл бұрын
Independent suspension with the defender: Next clip: it's obvious solid axle.
@ophirb254 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when speak about something you do not know....😂😂😂 Maybe he meant fully independence solid axles....
@Brian-dd2df7 жыл бұрын
I would be curious to see a 2wd car go through just to see the comparison.
@IvanTutto Жыл бұрын
A RWD with a weight around 900 or 1200 Kilos, can
@gemster185 жыл бұрын
Let's see a Honda CRV or Toyota Rav 4 do that....🤔..#LoveSubaru
@gabrielcaddy98503 жыл бұрын
they easily could
@mdf1134 жыл бұрын
Two words need to be asked before a verdict is given...."longevity" and "maintenance". This video I can comment on with first hand experience. Our house is down a private lane with potholes, ruts etc. In 2002 we bought, from new, a Forester (wife school run and shopping cart) and a Defender 90 for my business (I tow heavy duty car trailers and other equipment). Both diesels and at similar cost. The Defender at the time we sold the Forester had done 3 times the Foresters mileage and when we worked out the mpg of both vehicles the Defender had an average of 23 mpg and the Forester 26 mpg. Over 15 years the Defender failed 2 of its12 MOT's (1 with shock absorber leaking, 1 with track rod end) and the Forester failed 4 (1 with suspension related, 1 with exhaust, 1 with chassis welding and 1 with intermittent hazard light switch). In total, the maintenance cost, including servicing, for the Forester (with several electrical units needing replaced at 8 years old) cost two and a half times the cost of the Defender. Another factor that would be important to some, but it wasn't to us, was that the residual value of the Defender was 6 times that of the Forester when we sold it......and the Defender is still going strong today. Look at the bigger picture and don't be fooled by the glossy sales pitch.
@max.mooney8 жыл бұрын
Uh, here is just a simple question: when people want a car which can go off road what car do they take? a Land Rover There's a reason for that also bear in mind that this video was made by Subaru
@nukeboy278 жыл бұрын
+Max Mooney And that was just proven to be met by a subaru
@max.mooney8 жыл бұрын
have you ever seen a shitty XV subaru go off road? like properly? this isn't off road. Trust me, the Land Rover can do waaaaaaaaaaay more than this car
@nukeboy278 жыл бұрын
Max Mooney The point of this video was to show the capability of this car compared to another. Not that one is better than the other. And as a matter of fact i have seen subarus go off road
@tedjames25346 жыл бұрын
@@nukeboy27 there was no capability shown pal.. its a concrete track. Subarus cant go off road properly, theyre low to the ground, theyre made of plastic and theres a reason no serious off roaders use them. They use toyota, nissan and landrover.
@yarpos6 жыл бұрын
not where I live. You rarely see a land rover, except carrying around old blond chicks in the suburbs.
@Marius14415 жыл бұрын
I have Subaru Outback and its absolute beast!
@saiiiiiii14 жыл бұрын
Finally I can ride over sidewalks, stairs and railroad tracks without breaking a sweat. What a great car.
@GTtiOC8 жыл бұрын
My Impreza was the only car able to get into our car park at work after heavy snow. The maintenance company used land rovers and could not gut up there and were amazed I could and on normal road tyres
@ersklordy8 жыл бұрын
Bollocks!!
@GTtiOC8 жыл бұрын
Fair enough if you don't want to believe it. Your fucking loss dumb nuts.
Here is a picture on a link below to show only one car in the car park. The two in the background where there the night before. hence the snow on the roofs. Now if you knew anything about cars you'd know how good the Subaru AWD system is aligned with the boxer engine. Hopefully you've learned something now.
@sunnydlight23756 жыл бұрын
it's lightness and smart traction control. Thats IT. there is nothing more. the chassis is not durable and strong like body on frame vehicles. it's all about traction control, but that traction control is limited to its independent suspension which is NOT rugged and durable and suited for on road use. people are tired of larping baby fat people trying the 'big bad outdoors' in their mom mobiles. it's just not the truth. only larping.
@AWDfreak8 жыл бұрын
2:38 for those curious, by "in line boxer engine", I believe the narrator is referring to its longitudinally-mounted layout, not necessarily its arrangement of cylinders.
@jdenmark12875 жыл бұрын
By definition boxer means horizontal and inline means vertical cylinders IN A LINE
@Dzordzikk2 жыл бұрын
Are you Subaru? Yes, 4 years ago :-)
@michiel758 жыл бұрын
it is quite impressive to see that XV 'simply' follow that defender though.
@AdrianoCROST8 жыл бұрын
+Michiel M Follow where ? Those steps were toughest part of test. Defender is much better in real off-road.
@michiel758 жыл бұрын
I know a Defender is the better off road car......but for a road car the XV's ability off road is very impressive. equipped with all terrain tires the XV will follow a Defender until the toughest offroad situation occur and that is quite an achievement. I doubt if any competitor can do the same. Try taking those steps with ur Audi A4 quattro.....
@sunnydlight23756 жыл бұрын
it's TRACTION. subarus have smart traction and wheel slip controls. that's the only fucking thing. it's all computer controlled. the defender has lockers, that are mechanical and fail proof. there is no fucking way a computer controlled traction can compete even close in rugged conditions to diff locks. Fucking internet people are so fucking dumb it's so fucking annoying. i just picture fat, pasty suburban man / women lesbian boys with acne behind the keyboards. just absolute bollocks.
@comadivine186 жыл бұрын
MOAR RAGE!!
@sunnydlight23756 жыл бұрын
@@honkeyKong618 your ovary shaped dingleberries on your neck beard and baby fat rolled triple chin and pasty white man low T low self esteem muffins are even better. :) kiss on the lips?
@JasonLee-hz6sd6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the defender has a real bumper made from metal so you can actually take it off road without worrying about getting your plastic bumper scratched up. The defender can drive through trees and bushes, cant do that in the Subaru without damage. Defender is a real offroader
@magnusmikkelsen53910 ай бұрын
Yes yes yes yes yes! But this is NOT a video to compare this two to say who's best. This video was made to show how good the 4wd system of a Subaru really is... Ok?
@shai36916 жыл бұрын
You can have a crossover which will make you look like you havent touched ground in a year Or you can have a defender Which looks fucking bad ass
@cosmotect6 жыл бұрын
Felt really warm and good to watch the video ☺
@borderterrierman29915 жыл бұрын
The Subaru is at its limit of ability’s. The defender just getting warmed up
@MrStevecro5 жыл бұрын
c'mon, he's not knocking the Defender. Don't take it too personally
@gregpost33202 жыл бұрын
It certainly didn't appear to be handling at any kind of limit. Ask yourself which vehicle holds its value better? Yeah, it's the Crosstrek. Hands down. It's not even close. There's a reason for that. And it sure isn't because the Defender is any kind of a reliable vehicle. On the contrary.
@Noises6 жыл бұрын
The best thing about the Subaru is there's loads of cargo space for all the plastic bumpers and bodywork you're going to tear off when you try to take it offroad.
@ZobbyGaming8 жыл бұрын
Yes the Subaru is amazing, however, comparing the new Subaru to the Defender, is like comparing a toaster to a smartphone. Both are incredibly different! The Defender is built to be simple and to work. Good luck to any of your customers trying to fault-find when their new Subaru breaks down in the middle of nowhere. I love you as a brand, however in my opinion, this new car is pointless in modern society where off-roading is more of a hobby than a requirement. And as a hobbyist, I would rather the car which is simpler, and more likely to fail so I have some sort of challenge. I personally, don't see this selling too well here in the UK.
@markmoene8 жыл бұрын
exactly this is why I don't like the subaru PR deparment and you couldn't have said it any better
@omprakash-df6ks7 жыл бұрын
xxx 2wwww
@sunnydlight23756 жыл бұрын
it's all about the soy. it's weakenedness larping as strongness. it's a very big theme in the keyboard warrior social media era. You dont have to actually have the grit, you just...pretend you do and that's basically the same thing...right? Subarus have intelligent traction control THATS IT. Only internet creatures who stay indoors think that's what you need in the bush or rugged outdoors.
@karlosbricks24136 жыл бұрын
it's not this car that doesn't sell well, it' subarus as a whole. In the whole of Europe in 2017, they sold 35.297 units representing a 0,23% market share. Which is pitifully low compared to the US figures
@bolwell6 жыл бұрын
I used to be a Subaru promoter of sorts...until experiencing the problems we are now with our 09 Forester. Leaking head gaskets at 120k, failed CV's at 130k and completely shot suspension/steering rubbers at 140k. Got 330k out of our 84' Leone Sportswagon before we did anything other than change the oil.
@GrahamReid348 жыл бұрын
a muddy glastonbury field and i know which one i would prefer!
@zaunali26788 жыл бұрын
p u 67
@oddities-whatnot8 жыл бұрын
Graham Reid i agree the land rover is very capable off road, as thats what it was designed for, but it is charming, and does have a lot of appeal, but is a basic and rather agricultural car to drive on normal roads. As for the Subaru XV, they only fit fairly standard road tyres on it, although they are supposed to be an all season tyre, the tread on a panda 4x4 was better for muddy fields (i had one and its capability off road was impressive). So....glastonbury car choice? An XV with better tyres. Or a forester.
@redbeardedt34378 жыл бұрын
Getting twice the mpg in the Subaru certainly helps.
@robertmcdonald17776 жыл бұрын
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@lazzareeti4 жыл бұрын
I love rubies too
@lazzareeti4 жыл бұрын
I love subies
@kjsinsaino8 жыл бұрын
nice car, I've owned 6 subies (all wagons) and 2 land rovers (disco2's), id like to see this car vs a range rover evoque. that would be a much more apt comparison. a 1986 subaru wagon would walk that course I'm bettn!
@brianheard45654 жыл бұрын
Having just bought an XV, this was a great vid!
@user-de4cq6uk6l4 жыл бұрын
If your in the US and haven’t heard of the XV it’s called the crosstrek here
@username-pm4rh4 жыл бұрын
It was called the XV when it first came out in the US, they changed it to Crosstrek. Early models in the US bare the XV name, But it wasnt a popular car when it first came out.
@avatr71092 жыл бұрын
They built all those tracks to test.. Should've just sent those cars to India fro Testing... In India we have craters on the "road"
@chewbaccabuddy33776 жыл бұрын
“Inline boxer engine” lmao
@TheBusracer4 жыл бұрын
Chewbacca Buddy 😂😂😂😂
@Megadriver6 жыл бұрын
I like how half of the tests on here can be done by regular cars. The going over planks test, the banked curve and the speedbump tests can all be done by a regular FWD, or RWD car.I didn't see any offroad here. Not dissing Subaru, I've driven a few on snow and they were spectacular! Amazing grip and very good control. Where everyone else is crawling due to ice, or deep snow, you can drive by at 50+ kmh easily. But this track was not proper offroad. Come on Subaru, you know what polish offroad freaks do with regular Subarus, show us that. And the narrator should get his facts straight. In-line boxer engine?! Independent suspension on a Defender?! XD
@SuperApeFight8 жыл бұрын
My GT86 could complete this course.
@user-wv9mr2nh8h6 жыл бұрын
Ur GT86 would not complete this course. It would however be a good car to teach old people how to drive again. The power is juuuuussssst right ;-).
@moonsapling6 жыл бұрын
Because it was originaly a Subaru BRZ ;))))
@user-wv9mr2nh8h6 жыл бұрын
@@moonsapling Cool story bro.............
@yarpos6 жыл бұрын
pretty sure my 2wd truck would do most of it
@user-wv9mr2nh8h6 жыл бұрын
@@yarpos Nah
@luinpuin41524 жыл бұрын
Allthough i like the Landie very much, i must say this Soob is a really clever car and it won’t break down
@GOONMOTORSPORT8 жыл бұрын
I want the XV more than never :)
@samiyemeyahni14888 жыл бұрын
XV is a lovely vehicle. However if only it had a spare tire and a bit more powerful engine it could be second to none in this category!
@stephenbibby86505 жыл бұрын
Certainly a very capable vehicle but that comparison is totally pointless. A Defender is not a family vehicle and is designed for a very specific purpose. A comparison against a Discovery Sport if it had to be Land Rover would have been more appropriate.
@TechMyLifeVideo7 жыл бұрын
I love how he compares and says we're not making a comparison. Lol
@gerbodis4 жыл бұрын
Both cars however, have the wheel on the incorrect side of the vehicle
@elizanne66604 жыл бұрын
No they are on the proper side, hahaha.
@hughbarraclough84934 жыл бұрын
History will show that the steering wheel is on the correct side. The Romans established that, many years ago.
@MegaCrazyLiam7 жыл бұрын
Also alot of the videoing on the subaru was done at slower speeds and also has a steady camera which makes it look better, either way landrover looks better, feels better, only bad point its a bit more noisy
@daved64644 жыл бұрын
My mini van could do that course. How about a real test TFL.
@lifeiswhatyoumakeit55055 жыл бұрын
Subie is using black top tyres and defender using off-road tyres what happen to like for like. May be part2 set in a muddy field with same rubber fitted and see how that one turns out.
@jasonmeehan12695 жыл бұрын
I could have driven that course in a FWD euro box,not really challenging Mr in line boxer engine.
@Brandon-qp7gq7 күн бұрын
this feels like it was made in the 1980s and I love it
@jarredwilliams17048 жыл бұрын
"In-line Boxer Engine" smh UK Subaru
@Plusle8435 жыл бұрын
There's at least ONE things that this Land Rover has an edge in. Clearance. Subaru has to have superiour traction systems if it want to go anywhere on ice or difficult terrain. I believe that was the only reason Subaru even invested in it's development. It's an SUV, it's not an offroader by specialty. I'd love to see a stress test of the electronics and all systems in really harsh conditions.I belive Land Rover might have some troube, it slips and spins, but it can work for months, probably more in muddy terrain. Electronics, specifically electronic drivven parts(electromotors, blocks, gearboxes) tend to not doo good in constant increased load situationts. Mechanichal stuff(gearboxes, diff locks, etc.) only give out when metal gives out. And that is by default more than electronic components.
@PeterBHugger8 жыл бұрын
"Inline boxer engine"? How does that work?
@mrtulipeater4 жыл бұрын
Cool effect, reversing the screen but keeping the lettering intact.
@mightymikee8 жыл бұрын
"Fully independent suspension...." In Defender?
@firetofork8 жыл бұрын
+mightymikee My thoughts exactly.
@maxxwellwalt4 жыл бұрын
YEAH.... IN 2020... A DEFENDER with FULLY INDEPENDENT SUSPENSION... How things can change in just 4 years..
@danimal8654 жыл бұрын
The defender is still one of the best looking overland vehicles in my opinion.
@bosshoss69lee8 жыл бұрын
I think most 4x4 would walk that course my 2x4 Cummins dually wouldn't care about most of that course, now the uphill and side grade would be interesting but if I put a locker in my 8000lb pickup it would more then likely conquer it and my wrangler would just laugh its bumper off!
@guyproulx16608 жыл бұрын
+bosshoss69lee you say your truck weighs 8000 lbs?
@bosshoss69lee8 жыл бұрын
+guy proulx yessir empty it weighs right around 4 tons, give or take a few hundred, depending on the scale
@guyproulx16608 жыл бұрын
bosshoss69lee what size is your dually, 2500, 3500....?
@bosshoss69lee8 жыл бұрын
+guy proulx 3500 I don't think they make 2500 duallys, I'll have to look that up its an 05 Dodge RAM 3500 5.9 Cummins 6 speed dually 2x4
@guyproulx16608 жыл бұрын
bosshoss69lee the only thing i could find for how much it weighs is the curb weight, 5919 lbs, couldn't find anything on the dry weight
@bradcreber755 жыл бұрын
Let's compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. To say that the Crosstrek even competes is saying great things about the Crosstrek. Subaru has been named the best company for 2019 mainly because of the new global platform Forester, Crosstrek and the new Ascent 7 seater that tows 5000lbs. Crosstrek has been named the lowest cost to own over 5 year period by Kelly Blue Book. Also, best resale value of any of its subcompact competition. Got a 5 out of 5 rating plus certificate by the IIHS safety tests. The highest you can achieve.
@Sawdust7236 жыл бұрын
My wife’s minivan can do this. I’ve seen it
@DIGGER198604 жыл бұрын
I have taken my impreza places a impreza should never go. I have had it on 2 wheels multiple times it has never gotten stuck. I also own a badass jeep wrangler but my suby impresses me more.
@BenTLador8 жыл бұрын
What's that I hear at 2:37 "Inline Boxer engine" wahahahahahahahaahaha
@Y10Q8 жыл бұрын
he meant INLINE with Transmission, or longitudinal.
@jamesonschafer33258 жыл бұрын
no he clearly meant inline boxer engine. That means that the pistons sit across from each other and both pump towards the middle, therefore, it looks like they are boxing
@pz50068 жыл бұрын
cool bro they don't pump towards the middle
@gpezun5 жыл бұрын
Yes! I’m. Driven my Subaru Legacy limited for 11 years........ mmm ....... with only 3 tune ups.... and going strong until it falls apart.....
@Smoked_5L4 жыл бұрын
These guys don't know what they're talking about. Pretty poor tbh
@lazrussanschei53726 жыл бұрын
Subarus really are the best cars. I live in an area where there's a lot of snow. So one winter day I was (trying) to walk up a hill with my sled and next to the hill was a street with lots of snow on it. I saw a few cars trying to get up there...SUVs, Pickups, normal cars and everyone failed and had to park down the road. But there was a little old Subaru Justy which just plowed through there without problems...I've never seen that before in my life...amazing how a 20 year old Subaru is better than modern cars....ever since then I've owned a lot of Subarus and never had problems (mechanical and while driving) with them...
@volt86842 жыл бұрын
Old skoda estelles with couple of slabs in front boot vvv good too
@graemesydney388 жыл бұрын
2.38 there is no such thing as a "in line boxer engine".
@wrxTO2 жыл бұрын
2:39 I guess thats why they didnt put that red XV banner straight. It gets horizontal when climbing obstacles 😃
@upenderdhull82135 жыл бұрын
Take a new defender You are comparing with a 50 year old model
@gammawave78584 жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯
@crice1uk8 жыл бұрын
A defender doesn't have fully independent suspension, it has two live axles. Also the wheelspin on the Defender was deliberately induced by a generous application of right foot.
@honkeyKong6186 жыл бұрын
Just another day for Subaru . keep schooling over priced vehicles. 😅😅
@jacobmoses37128 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about the low profile tyres fitted to the XV. They will mean that you will feel every rut, stone etc
@robvickery42658 жыл бұрын
Defender is still way better
@doyle2012068 жыл бұрын
A Skoda Octavia 4x4 could do that course. If you took the bumpers off I reckon most 2WD Hatchbacks could thinking about it.