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[@THELIFEOFPRICE]

Nice video man!

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Yessir! Thanks for helping me get this beast fixed

[@KaySwiss21]

Ide like to see what some of these salt amps can do... Debating whether to grab a taramps for my xv3 or a salt amp

[@colemcdougal7670]

@@KaySwiss21 salt

[@KaySwiss21]

@@colemcdougal7670 yah I'm still debating, the 769 price tag for the salt 2 is up there tho.... Sundown also has a smart version amp like the taramps smart 3&5.. it's their SIA line... I've been researching those as well

[@derekgardin1512]

@@KaySwiss21 salt.

[@jimmyjam5588]

I vote a custom sub box for the zv6 and a revisit 😊

[@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128]

Hey Parker I 2nd this proposition!

[@ScramTek]

@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 Thirded

[@kylez2141]

4th that

[@AudioEuphoria080]

5th it

[@sohailasura4610]

6th it

[@mathewyocham2142]

I like how when people toast their skar equipment its skars fault but when sundown equipment fails they have no problem sayn it was their fault.

[@DTW-bx2vy]

98% of product failure is simply from user error. The difference is the people that admit to there mistakes. We are all human & have to all learn the do's & don't in car audio because we are all beginners at some point.

[@yhprumhsoj]

I wouldn't stand up for Skar Audio's business either. Would you stick your neck out for a guy getting bullied when you know he's been a real scumbag in the past?

[@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128]

@Josh Murphy elaborate on the scumbag...

[@ScramTek]

@@DTW-bx2vy ‘admit’

[@yhprumhsoj]

Not going too, if you know you know. It's been long enough now it's not worth writing a book over but they will not get my defense still to this day.

[@skywalkerallday4953]

Awesome review man, had my headphones on and could feel the bass from that zv6 🎧😎

[@markwentz8332]

Damn i gotta get the box for mine built! Thanks for posting these motivational video's for me Parker! Two SAZ-1500 anniversary editions should get it moving in my Ranger

[@steventrojanowski3595]

Good cinematography… your getting better and better at this stuff, love your vids and review knowledge

[@ScramTek]

Loving the content dude. It is possible to build one large enclosure with a tuneable port that you can use for all drivers. Give it a 15” cutout and then you only have to make a baffle for each driver that you can attach to the enclosure cutout. If you build a 4-5 cu.ft. enclosure you can then use various measured sizes of wood (attach to interior walls of enclosure with Velcro to ensure no movement) or XPS foam. Whatever you use needs to be solid/closed cell so that a 1 cu.ft. block for example actually acts as a 1 cu.ft. block when compressed by air. You can also use an external port to adjust tuning for each driver. Varying lengths of 3-4” piping. This will allow you to test each driver in the optimum box/port combination. What you’re currently doing is fun to watch, but not a fair representation of what each driver is capable of. Keep up the good work my dude!

[@lowhertzhighspl]

Exactly my thought! I think it's time he steps up his approach to testing now that he's doing so well.. and to test a Fi sub! (Fi Neo 4.11) like I have in my build on my YT channel.

[@jamesr3364]

Yeah man if like to see you build a box for this beast!

[@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128]

Parker, great content! You were really pushing that sub! What's the chances of you doing a video similar to this on the nightshade v5?? Have you given testing that sub out any thought?

[@matthewsinn5960]

I've only seen one of these once in person. One beautiful subwoofer and massive!

[@johnkurpiewski3996]

Would love to see a box built for that sub . Showcase how the right enclosure makes all the difference.

[@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128]

Yes then he could've surpassed that 145db and see this sub truly shine.

[@girthquake9655]

It's all.... About the box.

[@ericsimon256]

I got a zv5 15 on a wolfram 5k put about 2500 to it hitting 149.6 after new alternator before 146

[@lowhertzhighspl]

Then he'd need to use custom enclosures for every one of his subs tested to be fair otherwise put an asterisk next to the new Z's score

[@rickmoran8644]

@@girthquake9655 lol you said “box”.

[@donjaun540]

Can you imagine 6 of those Sun downs replacing the six in your big box? Wow. Good video Parker. Where was bass head kitty?? Lol

[@crankshaftsfuels6445]

Literally felt the intro in my soul

[@elawood538]

I'd buzz if parker actually got a sundown sponsorship. they are the best 12 inch subs for sure. "that ive heard and felt to date"

[@akjohnny5997]

better he's independent, at least i hope he is

[@mrreggiej85]

One day, when my electrical is up to par lol. Love the intro to this video!

[@kevinAuman1]

Dave Lieb is the man!!! One of if not thee best sub builder there is, I own a pair of Dave Lieb Designs upgraded Sundown X12's and they're absolutely insane! I broke my sunroof on my Lincoln mkx on only 3k with the two 12's them things are violent 👊💪🔊🔊🔊

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Yes he is incredible!! Very stoked I got to meet him

[@thomashood8549]

I just have a 10" sundown x v2 in a high output enclosures built by Dave Marin. I'm using a sundown sia 3500. I'm good with that 😀🇺🇸

[@haroldwilliams8242]

Nice! I'm about to play with my zv5s soon. Beast subs.

[@blitz1735]

I’d love to meet this dude one day. He said the sundown manufacture place was close to him and it’s about 30 minutes from me I’ve been there aswell.

[@marijuananirvana]

Have you thought about trying a Pride subwoofer? I know they are very expensive.

[@RomaVilla]

That sub definitely has alot of potential, especially with the right enclosure. Maybe even close to a 150 db...

[@Mani-aX]

if i were competing, totally worth the money with it holding up to some slight over power and bass burps. but for an daily driver, i think there are other subs in the lower 500.00 range for that. Great video as always!

[@ScramTek]

What drivers would you recommend in the sub $500 range?

[@MannuhFestIt]

If it helps, a used Zv5 can go as low as $500. I got 2 and acquired one of them for that price.

[@johndough4338]

@@ScramTek ...just get two skar vxf 12s, and you'll be happy with them versus buying and 1 12 at 900 or 500 bucks. One skar vxf 12 by itself will probably give you a real close comparison even if put next to this sundown zv6 12. The sundown would probably take more power, I'm pretty sure, but if you were looking for a everyday listening banging set up, then the skar vxf 12s will fit the bill, while saving you hundreds of dollars. Another thing, in this video, Parker is using a taramps 8k bass amp, to push that one sundown zv6 12. If he was to swap that 1 sundown zv6 12 out, and replaced it with two skar evl 12s, or 2 vxf 12s in this same set up, in this same vehicle, the two skar 12s will perform way better than that 1 sundown zv6 12. And still cost half the price for that one sundown zv6 12 inch sub. So if you are looking for sound instead of name brands to boast about, there are plenty of things to do, and brands to choose from, to get loud and still save.

[@cliffordmcgraw8740]

@@ScramTek crossfire c7 series subwoofers are totally awesome for less than 500 and im feeding mine double rated daily.

[@ScramTek]

@@cliffordmcgraw8740 Yeah I’ve heard nothing but good about Crossfire. Only problem is there’s no retailer here in the UK. We have most American brands here but Crossfire is the one I wish was retailed here.

[@colinshrom3704]

Can you please start including the qts numbers they are very important and I feel it’s a determining factor when choosing subs

[@MichaelJohnson-je2vo]

Put it in the right box and that tip about getting into a wreck is priceless

[@hodakine]

Hey Jacob, great vids, I’m thinking about getting x4 sundowns or db’s what do u recommend

[@rovidbouski4022]

Love the videos bro! In your opinion, having tested a ton of subs, what 12" woofer is the loudest under $400?

[@biggzaebeats9582]

Bro the ZVX Skars hands down

[@Kendrickshayesjr]

As much as you spend on the high tier subs, I know you can just build a bigger single sub box. Then everyone can really see what these subs can do

[@elawood538]

yeeeeh man Buzzin bass head time. whoooooooooooo!

[@brandonwalker8255]

Apparently no one heard these subs in action before in the right enclosure but I’m here to tell you I’ve heard them and they get down!!

[@gabrielkatzenmeier2655]

Loving the skits. They definitely are always fun to see.

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Thank you!!

[@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128]

I agree that skar/Sundown skit was gold!

[@wizardindustriesusa]

This sub deserves one of our Wizard Industries EBS115 enclosures; a night and day difference!!

[@nandocastillo8366]

I just bought one but what is all that rattling sound?sub,box,suv,or a little of each? I personally think you need a bigger box so I’m getting a 2.5 cubic ft box built after displacement.

[@miiiikee_]

it's a gnarly sub for sure, but I think your opinion at the end is pretty spot on, the X series is super close to it now with the v3 especially. Good bang for your buck with the X and the Z is more for the extreme end of the spectrum.

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Exactly!

[@annihilationindustries1990]

its just amazing that you have had problems with two of the most expensive subwoofers

[@PBasschannel]

The box what you using for testing is optimised for Sundown X12 V2, then of course it have the biggest chance that it will be the loudest - and obivously in your case it was up to date. I'm not saying that it is wrong, just not as accurate SPL results as it could be, because the subs you tested, had not equal chances, because of a box what is not optimal for them - maybe for some close, but not optimal. I mean with this, in my opinion 1 of DeafBonce or American Bass, or Skar sub maybe would outperform the X12 V2 in a proper box made for them, but maybe not... I think this Z easily will outperform the X V2 in a box optimised for it, so yeah, I would like to see it in a proper box. And also an idea: custom boxes made for your best subs. My case: I have a Gladen RS-X 6.5 sub, I made a custom ported box optimised for it's TS parameters from the specs sheet like almost everybody doing when designing a custom box for a sub with not the manufacturer's recommended box specs. I found out that a Sundown X6.5 have similar shaped transfer function graph curve in any box like that Gladen sub, even their peaks are at the same freq in any box in a same listening enviroment, so I compared them with simulations: I simulated the X6.5 in the Gladen's box, and the Gladen was louder by few tenths of dB at the peak + up to 3-3.5 dB off from the peak on it's RMS power (250 W) like the X6.5 on it's RMS power (300 W), but the X6.5 not reached it's xmax, the Gladen just touched it's xmax, because for X6.5 is acceptable a bigger net volume box. After this I designed a custom box for the X-6.5, the X-6.5's peak was louder like the Gladen's in the Gladen's box, and also simulated in the X6.5 box both drivers, had the same transfer function differences like I wrote down just before on their RMS powers. But Gladen overpassed it's Xmax, so, I needed reduce the power for it in simulations, and after that obivously X6.5 became much louder like the Gladen at the peak, even Gladen was quieter at the peak like in it's box, but still a tiny bit louder off from the peak like the X6.5, just now I can't prove this with real tests, because Sundown's stuff is 1 - hardly avialable in my country, or 2 - it is way too expensive mainly because of shipping payments and similar things... So, in any means, boxes optimised for the given drivers giving always the best results like for me: Gladen outperforms X6.5 in a box made for Gladen, because the Gladen box is a bit small for the X6.5, and X6.5 outperforms the Gladen in a box optimised for X6.5, because the X6.5 box is too big for Gladen, and even X6.5 outperforms the Gladen at the peak freq when both are simulated in their boxes = both subs have very similar sounding, Sundown is somewhat louder, but needs a bigger space, Gladen is somewhat more musical/daily, and needs a smaller place...maybe there's something similar reason why all (mainly "flaghip") subs you tested were quieter like the X12 V2 - maybe for some of them is a need for a bigger box because it's not using the driver's max output potential, or some of them is a need for a smaller box because the drivers starting to have bigger excursion at 70 percent of Bl on smaller power like in an optimal box... Or let's say even if the X12 V2 is truely the loudest, but I think the order from 2nd place downwards would be different for sure.

[@blackwhip]

When you got a Zv6.. You need to change that Amp and that Box. Also.. have the sub face the rear of the Truck for corner loading. You need a Bass 15k for that Sub or a 8k Korean board ran at .05 ohms.

[@alvertozavala3406]

Ty parker the ts parameters are veri apreciated.

[@balja2533]

did a 146.2 metered on the headrest with 1x10" Zv4 back in the days. was running it on a saz3500 in 0.5ohms... Killed 2 of them in the end (had a reserve)

[@shaunpeterson108]

I’ve got one of these on a wolfram aw-5000 my box is twice the size of that one. Close to 4 cubic feet tuned to a 30 hz. Thing is filthy.

[@madrx2]

I'd love to see this put up against the Sundown N/s 12

[@rettapounds]

I have a couple of Ampere Audio Encore 12” subs. You should get one of those n do a review. Curious to see what they can handle.

[@steveharley2021]

No joke about working with such a heavy sub...my DB-412 weight 95lbs each....about crushed my finger tips a couple times...and just getting them in my truck was tough..let alone pulling them in and out while messing around with my setup

[@McRemmyBaby]

Lmao

[@erikybarra1841]

It sounds like you need to build and improve your upper body and core strengh, lmao! Nah, just joking bro.

[@McRemmyBaby]

@@erikybarra1841 Donut POWER

[@quinton337]

Any thoughts on doing amp reviews to see if one pushes harder than another one like Korean vs Brazilian

[@LSTeg1994]

Hey Parker, from your experience what are the “MUST HAVES” with DIY systems? As in the gadgets you use to measure power, hz, dB, etc. I installed my 1st system, basically half assed tuning and would like to get it proper before doing more. Thanks!

[@keatonvanmontfort7093]

How it sounds is all personal preference, I recommend you buy a voltage meter to make sure your able to monitor everything safely whenever listening

[@74midwestbass74]

Nice bro!

[@econley001]

Pretty disappointed in YOU Parker. I thought you would learn from the 1st review you made on this subwoofer. Your biggest failure is using that tiny box for this massive subwoofer. Your box needed to be increased by nearly 2x. This is why it kept getting stinky and surprised you didnt blow it AGAIN 😆. You got super lucky they fixed it for free as well. ITS THE. LACK OF SIZE IN YOUR BOX THAT CAUSES THIS SUB TO BLOW AND YOU SHOULD GET A LARGER BOX AND THEN DO A 3RD REVIEW. I enjoy your videos but you did this sub no justice on this review...thank you as always!!!

[@InLoveWithBass1990]

Hey parker, if you still have this zv6, maybe you could do the free air 5 minute test.

[@tim4cn759]

That sub is a BEAST

[@salvatorehayes2753]

The Qts Was .39. Usually Subs Under .40 Don't Need A Whole Lot Of Volume For Thier Enclosure. Not Sure If It Correlates With Why Sub Was Louder With Motor In Box. What Kinda Shows The Box Isn't Ideal Is Your Impedance Rise. It's Only Going From .5 To 2.2Ish. My Subs Rise From .5 To 5.8 Ohms A Little Past Box Tuning Hz. Alot Of SPL Guys Rise Even Higher. Oh And Was That Noise When You We're Playing Free Air Just Air Rushing By The Enclosure Opening Or Was That Suspension Creaking/Hissing?

[@mohitchand1356]

Do a free air 5 minutes RMS torture test at 40hz. For a $900 worth of sub, it should survive and backup its reliability.

[@SheikhN-bible-syndrome]

It's not a Russian sub I don't think it'll handle it LOL

[@tyreetw]

i need a list of the music you was playing, sounds good homie

[@chadstokes6532]

Amazing... dona review of the American bass Godfather 12s or 15s.. they are amazing

[@keatondavis638]

Can you review a deaf bonce 3512 and compare it to a 3012r and a xv3

[@annihilationindustries1990]

So you think that box was too small and when u blew the dc audio level 5 the box was too big ? I really think your frying the subs with your Brazilian amp u got there ?

[@KOSx15]

When is an Fi sub going to make an appearance on this channel 👀

[@jkstdstang]

What a beast!

[@filibertofonseca8083]

Great example of when a guy says all you have to do is invert the subwoofer, give it more airspace in its enclosure and it will be louder. Inverting is not always the answer

[@WifeBTR123]

That intro was great. Had me laughing.

[@elchuy501]

I need a playlist of the songs so I can bump 😂😂

[@TheDoozie43]

4 of those would be dope in your Toyota man! Perfect power setup. EMF Banhammer v2s are almost in stock too btw man! Any day now! You should get a 12 to test. $469 I believe? Close anyways. 4” coil, 3k rms. Curious how it stacks up to the others you have. Fs of 29, so they like the lows even more than this zv6 in theory. Just picked up a Salt 6k for a couple of them. Keep up the good work bro!

[@Basstaco69]

If you live close to sundown will you be at the bass show next year?

[@therandomman6647]

I want to see Sacrilegium 1 by Zeal & Ardor on one of those! It would be pretty brutal

[@62dobie]

Yes. Worth every penny.

[@FAQBrooks]

Figure out what size of box for a 15” that you want to use in the future test? Port size etc and I’ll see what I can find

[@BLACKEDOUTVIK]

I'm putting that with my sundown SFB8k some time soon

[@BeatsByThePound]

The same box he blew it in lol nice!

[@alextvedt7]

this sub is sick

[@anilkumartenglikar1945]

Its my Favourite Subwoofer I like to watch it this Subwoofer... So power full puch

[@easylooker]

What you think about the sound quality of this sub? Jonathon Price said in a video that some people compete in sound quality with these subs which I find hard to believe as I never seen it. But would be nice to have a big sub that does sound really good and accurate instead of sounding sloppy like most all the subs do.

[@09NXN06]

Agree!!

[@halcyon7005]

There's a hifi associate of Sundown called Stereo Integrity. I believe they use the same motors but a less stiff suspension to lower the fs. They seem to recommend going sealed with these. Seems they have a big following among DIY audiophiles. You may want to check them out. Though I bet the ZV6 sounds great as is.

[@antoniomccurine7886]

Resilient sounds 💪💪💪💪

[@nathanwhite8931]

Would you recommend 2 sundown sa v2 10s. I’m looking at those or resilient sounds gold 10 or b2 riot 10s. Which one would you recommend

[@mattadams7922]

Buddy you need twice the box you got for that monster and that sub is a 6th order bandpass monster. It will go hard in a 4th order too but 6th order will make it go bonkers. That 1 sub is a 150 db all day sub in that truck with that amp

[@ragincajun5957]

You are lacking on port area for that sub, what is the overall dimensions for that enclosure you put it in? Not all 2.5 cubic foot enclosures have the same external or internal dimensions.

[@marcorodriguez7748]

Can you review something off Fi?

[@coryjohnson3946]

It needs a bigger box but even still sounds pretty good

[@nothisispatrick7323]

Bro i got a b2 audio rampage 15, never got yo break it in, this vid made me eager to lol

[@kswis]

Nice sub but damn, a Rockford t1500 is bout the same price. The throw on that thing is crazy!

[@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128]

@Kswis I'm failing to see the relevance here.

[@thenoobjpttv238]

will you ever get a 9500 series DD to review or a JL Audio w7 to review???

[@fading_starz4070]

I was waiting for that Subwoofer to blow again 😂🤣😂

[@mattsnider5904]

How much wattage did it peak at for 145.3 score? Seeing if it's fair comparison to that EM sub you put 11 thousands watts. Oh you said 5000 watts. Could it handle more than that?

[@CL-yp1bs]

This sub is for hitting lows more than getting as loud as possible

[@HardKnocks160s]

u should try out the harmony audio monolith 15 it looks like a budget banger

[@trollmode3863]

I love that sub

[@salsanbean]

Hey how much was your sub box. Is a skar prefab box the best in the market

[@matteochetty69]

Hello I will always be your subscriber

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Thank you!!!

[@seanjulian8013]

Let's see this vs the Deaf Bonce 3512R!!!

[@tonivalen6187]

Parker let's trie out the 20.000 rms taramp amplifier with 4-15"d1 punishers

[@iakopklein8218]

i like that sub moves when you played coca cola

[@austinfrancis9723]

I’m about 20 min from Sundown HQ lol we must stay close

[@shaneiveson517]

I need like 3 of these

[@crustysleet]

Remember to invert the gasket when you invert the sub for a proper seal Parker! 😀

[@crustysleet]

@nate0 this is true, but I still invert cut one side of the gasket isn't flat but one is 90% of the time . It makes a difference in en losses that have had a few suvs ran thru and stuff

[@lowhertzhighspl]

That's a good idea. I know my Fi Neo 4.11s gasket is a lot thicker on the top side when not inverted (I have yet to invert bcuz of space restrictions but maybe if I remove the gasket and replace with my ⅛" butyl gasket tape then it'll fit. (Otherwise I'll routering out the top layer of my 3x baffle 😬). I'll post the experience on my YT channels.

[@BeckettCarroll]

hey i’m getting one of these for my bronco but im wondering what sub you would recommend me to get i’ve heard people recommend a salt 4 and some an sbf or something but im not sure what i want or what’s better.

[@TheTherealdarkhorse]

That thing is choking. Chaffing like crazy..Build a damn box man!

[@Jordancade2010]

Did you build that sub enclosure? or did you buy it

[@rensoestrada8144]

One day I’ll owne one of this subs 🙏🏻🤘🏻

[@tylerh9456]

I know who made that box, like the guy specifically considering the place it's from lol you in the mt vernon area or did that thing just make it's way to you?

[@pandabear7894]

Im surprised that Dave had the time to repair your sub. I had him build me four Sundown X8V3 with his DL Designs upgraded coils, one of them blew the tinsel lead within a few months. I tried contacting him several times, using several different methods but never got a response. I ultimately had to pay to get it repaired. I am not knocking Sundown or the subs that Dave builds but I cannot recommend him due to poor customer service and not honoring his warranty. I wish people would take pride in their work and take care of their customers.

[@SheikhN-bible-syndrome]

He basically warranted the subwoofer only because it's on KZbin he wouldn't have given him the time of day any other way

[@terryburton971]

I run Pioneer & PSIs

[@beencraftn6612]

We have sent several messages Dave and not one reply either so, yea, we will shop elsewhere. People get "too big" and then forget the people who helped get them there. "The customer"

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome Yup and who knows how much special care they put into the rebuild because he's a youtuber.

[@guerrillawar616]

Big facts

[@db2loud]

I totally agree with you I've been saying it for years there's no reason for those subs to be at that price when everybody else is making subs a fraction of the price and gives you the same results

[@brianrich7828]

We’ve told Parker to use boxes made for the subs he tests. People have offered to build boxes for him for free. Instead he puts them in boxes not made for them and the result is meh.

[@db2loud]

I'm sure all the subs that he has tested probably could have done better in a box built for them but all the subs were tested in the same box and there were quite a few that did better numbers at a much reasonable price range

[@courden1]

@@db2loud generally because this lower priced subs in that enclosure would be closer to spec so it’s almost in the optimal enclosure/power. With this sub it’s sooo much bigger so it displaces soo much more airspace & needs more of box to get it to spec, as well as a bigger port for the airflow this sub can produce. That’s why cheaper subs seem better because their almost in the perfect circumstances.

[@t.w.i.t.c.h8711]

Can you review the American Bass XMAXXX 12

[@bigkarai]

Yo Parker bro you should do a 18inch review for the one time man.

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Yep videos ago was DS18! I plan to do more soon

[@RY-xh5hm]

@@ParkerTheBasshead He means a 18 inch sub

[@bigkarai]

@@ParkerTheBasshead 18 inch sub