The Tangent 'Medical PC' from 2007!

Let's go on a Tangent... a PC Tangent!! Here's a brand you don't see everyday! In this video we will go over this interesting desktop PC from 2007! We will test it, clean it and see if we can restore it to some form of glory... Does everything go well? Let's find out!
#nostalgia #retropc #vintage #windows #vista #windowsvista #medical #pcrepair #computerrepair #intel #ewaste #pentium

[@Otakunopodcast]

It's a real shame that the "Tech Tangents" KZbinr didn't get a hold of one of these, then they could have done a Tech Tangents video on a... tech Tangent 🤣

[@TheRetroRecall]

Hahaha I know (through KZbin / Twitch) Shelby! He included me in one of his videos (the HP 4C video). I'll make sure to share this PC with him haha. Don't worry - I definitely thought about it when I got this pc lol.

[@guaiqueritech]

That would be so meta

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha!

[@all2funnycomments724]

but imagine if Tech tangent went on a tangent about a tech tangent and tech tangent responded to tech tangent with a tech tangent tangent of their own.....😮

[@guaiqueritech]

@@all2funnycomments724 that’s Inception levels of meta

[@tookeydookey]

I don't think I've ever seen someone resurrect a medical PC before! This is a first for me!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha and for me!

[@MarkBurfeind]

We had them at my previous IT job, ours had floppy drives in them. Although most were thrown out by the time I started, I managed to come across at least 10 in the past six years.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice!! I live hearing about these systems. It sounds like they were in various business environments.

[@FubarMike]

I think vista was my favorite version of windows even if just for its crazy development cycle. I was always reading updates on the longhorn development and it feels crazy to think there was basically a whole version of windows that didn't release. This is probably why vista wasn't very well accepted by people. It was too hard on many systems originally running xp and driver support was a mess which wasn't even vista's fault

[@TheRetroRecall]

Yes!

[@robertcartier5088]

I loved Vista! Used it for 9 years... Sure it was a little sluggish at first because, among other reasons, MS was way too optimistic about its system requirements, but once I gave it more RAM, and installed SP 1, it was both brilliant and beautiful! Just for fun, I re-installed it on that same old 2007 laptop, last week, this time with 3GB RAM (Max. usable on this 32-bit system) and a faster 7200 RPM HDD, and it is flying! ;-]

[@TheRetroRecall]

Love to hear these stories. It really tells you how exciting the wild west of computing was back then!

[@TOWGyt]

I need to know that model of hard drive, cuz' I never heard of a 72,000 RPM drive. XD Also on another note, I tried using Windows Vista and it was a steaming pile of garbage in my experience.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha, 72k hard disk.. SCSI on steroids??

[@robertcartier5088]

@@TOWGyt Sorry to hear about your bad experience! Like I said, it required at least double the RAM they said it needed... It also had file transfer issues, at least before Service pack 1. The HDD is a 250GB Seagate Momentus 7200.4 that I pulled out of an HP Netbook... Ah, I see why you asked now, I added an extra zero, didn't I?! lol Thanks, gonna go fix that!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha I liked the 72000 drive comment :)

[@fryode]

My high school used Tangent branded PCs back in the mod 90s. Nothing about them said "medical" at all. They were made of commodity parts. I suspect Tangent specialized in medical systems later on.

[@TheRetroRecall]

That great info! I suspect you are correct. Since the release of the video, I had a couple of close viewers who work in the medical industry contact me and let me know that they have come across or use these today! So neat. The materials have microbial materials to defend against infections or spread of disease which makes sense. Again, a neat concept.

[@fryode]

@@TheRetroRecall They probably did the same thing I did: move upmarket. Staying competitive became difficult as the bottom fell out of PC prices in the early 2000s. I learned I could make more money specializing in high-end niche hardware, which led to working on SGI machines, some of which were used to run CT and MRI machines. You just deal with a better cut of people when time is money, corners can't be cut, and customers are willing to pay accordingly.

[@mitsycon1]

They were a PC clone company back then. I bought a new 486/33Mhz tower from them and it's still running today :)

[@goclunker]

C2D was such an amazing chip. In 2007 it was ridiculously quick

[@TheRetroRecall]

Agreed. Intel redeemed themselves!

[@AdamEbelgccengineering]

It's only good for installing a Linux OS on it, more than Windows 10 Pro these days or 11. I could not do anything with a Core 2 Duo that much except run a Linux OS like Linux Mint.

[@Good_Luck_8619]

In 2023 it still can do win11 😂

[@RGD-Audio-Repairs]

Can confirm.. These computers were used in hospital / medical fields, Up until as recently as a few year back actually.. Although, here in the UK, most of them didnt run Windows Vista, or any windows OS for that matter.. There is a medical professional Operating system, Widely used in the UK, Called Epic.. So its interesting to see one with Windows Vista on it..

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks for this confirmation and yes - Vista Business. Do you think that these would have been used in reception / administration type functions - considering the Windows Vista OS?

[@RGD-Audio-Repairs]

@@TheRetroRecall Yes that is a strong posibility. Epic OS is mainly for the Medical side of thing.... Medication tables, Surgery room booking slots, CT / Xray time slots etc. I highly doubt Epic OS would have been used in the reception side of the hospital, It would more than likely have been a standard OS, Such as Vista.. Around that time period..

[@TheRetroRecall]

Ah makes total sense. There is also a Windows 7 pro licence on the system as well.

[@stephensalex]

The high-pitched sound emitted by the PSU was likely what's called "coil whine". In some lower-quality power supplies, there can be noise emitted by components under little or no load. If that is the case, I wouldn't worry too much - chalk it up to cheap parts. Now, if the whine is persistent or increascaes under a heavy load, then you can be sure of impending failure. Hard to say much more without looking at it carefully / testing at a component level. I'm a computer systems engineer with over 20 years experience, so I've seen plenty of weird power issues. I really enjoy your videos, and always get excited when you post a new one! Keep up the amazing work :)

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks for the info here and thanks for the encouragement!! Im glad you are enjoying and happy to have you along. This PSU is doing weird things and unless I'm 100% stuck, I'm not going to mess around with it right now. I think I have a replacement for it which will help.

[@stephensalex]

Glad to be along for the ride. Yeah, I agree it's less time wasted to ewaste the PSU and source a replacement. Computer, worth saving. Power supplies and other parts are like brake pads ;)@@TheRetroRecall

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha so true.

[@lukedavis436]

i wanted to see this one the most, and i was not dissapointed!!!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Really... That's awesome!!! There is sooo much more to do to it too, there will be a part 2!

[@laurencejohnson4106]

A fine restoration project!👍👍 My current computer project is a Samsung Laptop RV511, it does work but it requires an overhaul and some upgrading etc..

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks and nice!! I just looked it up online, it looks like a pretty decent system! Good luck on the restoration / upgrades!

[@laurencejohnson4106]

​@@TheRetroRecall Thanks and it's healthy to have interests. That Samsung laptop is now over 12 years old and it only has a second generation i3 processor 2.53 GHz., but it now has it's maximum 8 gig., of DDR3 ram., installed and a 256 gig., SSD., the battery has some power left in it so I was able to test the laptop and have a look through the bios, I'm waiting on a charger and a ram., cover being delivered.

[@jamesdye4603]

I always thought Vista got a bad rap. I put it on my win 7 machine in dual boot just to familiarize myself with it in case my friend needed help because his very first computer ever had Vista on it. I like your video and just subbed, now I'm going to watch your older videos.

[@TheRetroRecall]

That's awesome and thanks!

[@PiercedJedi]

I always steer clear of these SFF cases because of their proprietary power supplies, however they have come a long way in being serviceable with the easy lift-out drive cages like this one has. the last company I worked for had a ton of Dell systems about this size so it was nice to see easy remove drives for when I had to replace a failed drive etc.

[@TheRetroRecall]

For sure, but yes, that proprietary PSU can go very wrong quickly with little hope of it being an easy replacement lol.

[@branscombe_]

I think I saw one mounted on the wall in the ICU at the Regional when I was visiting grandma, no joke! They also have WISE ThinClients in reception area up there.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Yeah I had never seen one of these before. When I did the research then opened it on video, I still wasn't sure what the difference was compared to that of say an HP in its class. After speaking with a friend in the field they stated that it is made out of antibacterial, microbial materials. I thought that was pretty neat.

[@maxtornogood]

Good to see the "Tangent" PC at least functional even with the dodgy caps, a re-cap will do it good!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Stay tuned, it will be a full recap.

[@maxtornogood]

@@TheRetroRecall Having seen an older re-cap vid from you it should be good! 😉

[@TheRetroRecall]

It will be! If you look at my IBM 300PL video, I recapped that on the channel :)

[@wubster100]

I got two of these PCs from a school. They had an AMD CPU and Windows XP.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Really!! I never heard of them before the day I found this one.

[@wubster100]

@@TheRetroRecall It was the same chassis as in the video. They had a 250w psu, and it was a black MSI motherboard with an am3 socket, and the motherboard had a GPU built into the it. The AMD CPU did not have integrated graphics.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice!!

[@EweToobUsername]

Gotta love those FlexATX PSUs.

[@TheRetroRecall]

As I've found out that this is a standard thanks to these comments. Need to get a new one now to restore this system 100%

[@torythefanman]

My elementary school had Tangent computers I never knew they were an actual computer company honestly. Allot of nostalgia with those computers. The one in the video is the newest one I remember. They also had a beige case model in the earlier 00s. All of them ran Windows XP

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks for sharing this memory!

[@zenonchrono1410]

Same!

[@fiendlybrds]

I have had a tangent all in one XP machine, they are cool because it is medical grade, meaning the touch screen can be wiped with pretty intense chemicals!

[@TheRetroRecall]

That's awesome!!! I have a friend in the medical field that private messaged me and told me all about them. It's neat having yet another rpart of that history.

[@nushnume]

It's a nice Vista era computer. With SP2 and all updates it's actually as stable as Windows 7 and somebody even did an extended kernel for Vista to support everything 7 supports. Vista got hate because it had way too low requirements than it actually needed and most computers were not actually powerful enough to run it since most people had old Pentium 4s and Athlon XPs at the time

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks for this! Yes, I plan on installing sp2, recapping the board and fixing that PSU! Part 2...stay tuned!

[@thedungeondelver]

I had the AMD version of that MSI board, they made very similar offerings for Athlon-X2 CPUs, too. I quite liked it for what it was; with a GTX 460 I could play Far Cry 3 in 1080p medium/high with no issues (4gb RAM, SSD, etc.)

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice!! I need to get a low profile card... It's awesome how much of a difference the SSD makes!

[@thedungeondelver]

@@TheRetroRecallI would daresay if you can get a 750ti low profile and a dram ssd, you could probably build a gaming PC that'd handle most stuff up to 2014-2015 just fine. I wouldn't bother with a low profile 1050 as it will bottleneck, plus stuff that the 1050 could do the C2D could not. Now it's possible you could get a C2QE on that, but...I mean at that point how much do you want to invest, in something that you'd be at the dead end of and only just matching the bottom of a 1st or 2nd gen i3 in terms of overall perf., right?

[@TheRetroRecall]

Exactly. Generally I like to keep these as period correct as possible to see if we can restore them. I mean when I get them posting they are already ahead of the game. When I do the restoration, even better!

[@keigo_akashi4950]

When I saw the thumbnail I had to watch this video. I owned a nearly identical one, only difference being the motherboard. Here in Germany they were made by Terra.

[@TheRetroRecall]

That's awesome!! Hello from Canada!

[@jtodd76]

Kind of surprised at the amount of dust if it was potentially in a hospital!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Probably on a floor used as a foot warmer unfortunately.

[@FernandoMagaldiCachoeiro]

Excelente! Parabéns e obrigado!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@sohigh10]

I had this exact case!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice! Was it a Tangent?

[@JynxedKoma]

Unpopular opinion, but as a young kid I LOVED Vista (Ultimate) as my second ever OS after XP despite it's flaws. Which is why I loved Windows 7 (Ultimate) even more.

[@TheRetroRecall]

It definitely set the stage for 7!

[@JynxedKoma]

​@@TheRetroRecallIt certainly did... and people were so quick to judge Vista. If it wasn't for Vista, then chances are, we'd never have had 7 and what would have otherwise been might have been awful.

[@agcnorte]

"Cleaning" the motherboard without removing it from the case...I dying inside 😢

[@TheRetroRecall]

Hopefully for not too long... Dying inside is never cool :). As noted in the video (I assume you watched it) I'm taking it all apart again to recap the motherboard when the parts arrive. Which of course will require cleaning of flux and the underside where the board is mounted. Appreciate the comment, and thanks for watching!

[@Vista6002]

Fantastic video! I occasionally use vista on my 3rd gen intel workstation and it runs flawlessly!

[@TheRetroRecall]

I love hearing success stories and thanks for the compliment!!! Stay tuned for more!!

[@Twiikrz]

When you say recap, do you mean capacitors? Looking forward to a new video on this machine! Good luck!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Yes sorry - recapping the board = replacing the capacitors :)

[@billoverson2263]

Great job on getting videos out on a regular basis!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Since January 1st, 2023 - every Wednesday and Saturday! It's a heck of a lot of work and 20-30 hours a week... Comments like this make it worth while!

[@mackjsm7105]

Oh boy another one!!!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha yes!!!!

[@jasmijndekkers]

Great content. Keep up the good job! Greetings from Steven from the Netherlands

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks and hello from Canada!!!

[@CounterStriker013009]

I think you can buy the new Desktop case and move all hardware to new case, also remove and replace to new case. And those old Hardware should reuse as FreeNas :)

[@TheRetroRecall]

Hahah definitely a possibility

[@DFX4509B]

'People wanted to stay with XP and didn't wanna go to Vista.' - That sounds like the situation with Win11 currently, people wanna stick with Win10 and MS is trying their hardest to get everyone on Win11, and that's on top of Win11 not being officially compatible with any hardware older than Intel 8th-gen or AMD Zen+ respectively, effectively rendering otherwise still viable hardware on Intel 7th-gen or AMD Zen1 silicon obsolete in their eyes, which will likely cause a very small uptick in Linux adoption.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha.

[@ianmi4i727]

I hope those "medical" PCs with Vista have good health!!! :D

[@TheRetroRecall]

Hahahahahhaha!!!

[@siliconinsect]

Why not run data recovery to see what this machine was used for? Cool vid!

[@TheRetroRecall]

There was no HDD present in the system. I had to install one :).

[@elu9780]

I don't think it's a proprietary power supply. As far as I can see, it is TFX format power supply. They're quite common for PCs of this form factor.

[@TheRetroRecall]

You are correct. I found out afterwards :)

[@DiyintheGhetto]

I believe there is a upgrade Cpu for this one that can put a core2 quad in it. With that a memory upgrade can happen as well.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Awesome. Is 2gb the limit on this with the cpu? I read the board can handle 4gb.

[@OverTallman]

@@TheRetroRecall Well this motherboard should be able to support 8GB RAM, in fact most G31 motherboards do. Finding 4GB DDR2 memory sticks that work with Intel platforms is the problem though. At that time for Intel plaforms, the memory controller is in the northbridge so the RAM limit doesn't depend on the CPU but the motherboard chipset. Also this motherboard supports LGA 771 Xeons with some mods, a way to get a fast C2Q with 12MB L2 cache for cheap.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks for this info!!

[@DiyintheGhetto]

@@OverTallman not sure about 8GB of memory. At least 4GB depending on the CPU.

[@obscenity]

That was a pretty WildTangent™

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha.

[@blaster-vv8so]

that power supply looks like a standard sfx power supply that is readily available

[@TheRetroRecall]

I think so too, I think I have a couple stashed away that may for this. Just need to confirm all of the rails are tested and line up correctly. There is hope!

[@Mini-z1994]

The formfactor is called TFX & there might be a length limited version which you'd have too hunt down a manufacturer that makes a small length one, or simply modify the chassis too accept a full length one.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks!!!

[@danteblake9701]

If I had the $ I would add a ssd for boot, upgrade the processor, put in at least 4gb ram, add a low profile video card keep hd for storage dual boot Windows & Linux. In addition to the work you're already going to do on it.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Smart config! I try to keep these as close to original as possible, but that build does sound pretty nice.. Especially when it could probably run today's apps.

[@EastAngliaUK]

good for keeping it going most will not bother.

[@TheRetroRecall]

I like to try to save, restore all ewaste systems I come across. If they are too far gone, I will send them along :)

[@gerrycrisostomo6571]

Medical PC or not, that Tangent PC looks nice, without any proprietary BS that you'll find in other brands. Obviously, the previous owner/s did not even attempted to get it fixed.

[@TheRetroRecall]

It's a shame, but hey - we saved one of them!

[@Space_Reptile]

contrary to some commentors, i have quite the negative experience w/ that 4000 line of core chips, but it might have just been bad luck i got a Phenom 9500 afterwards and that chip is still around in my household, not very useful but nice for nostalgia on a vista setup

[@TheRetroRecall]

For sure. Everyone had different experiences, however the Core2 line saved intel from. The P4 world..

[@charleshines2142]

There is a barcode on the side label. Maybe a phone can scan that? Your camera app may be able to do it or if not, just get an app for it, there must be hundreds of them to choose from. Just get the one you like. Some show ads and some don't and many of them are free too. Maybe a web search on the number of that barcode can reveal more? I could not tell if it does.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Great idea, will do!

[@Jackpkmn]

The PSU isn't proprietary its a form factor called TFX.

[@TheRetroRecall]

I'll stand corrected! Others have also commented this - it's how we learn :). It will help in getting a replacement for it for sure. Thanks again!

[@stevencamp6824]

Can see bit of dust flying past the camera lol

[@TheRetroRecall]

Hahah. So many sneezes!

[@dj_noxxie]

That case even supports e-atx

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice

[@k6kaysix675]

I used to work in education IT and at one point we had some of these exact same PC cases from a manufacturer but the name totally escapes me now!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Awesome!! And I'm sure it will come back to you... I'm curious now lol.

[@theretroblondie]

@k6kaysix675 Wasn't ByteSpeed by any chance?

[@BayEmirkiYT]

I did less pc restorations :( ANYWAY!!! I'll subscribe Because, i love nostalgia , i love olds

[@TheRetroRecall]

Happy to have you along!!!

[@DankyMankey]

At a work enviornment, it would've probably run Windows XP at the time.

[@TheRetroRecall]

The two license keys on the side indicate Windows Vista Business and Windows 7 Professional. I would assume it was one of those two as even though we don't love it, Vista Business was used in these environments.

[@michaelwood9866]

i know about tangent but i will say i have vista on an acer extensa laptop and that's what it came with.

[@TheRetroRecall]

It wasn't terrriiiibbblllleeeee... But not great. It seems to be running quite well on this pc.

[@BenState]

still going the hard way without snappy drivers.... dude....

[@TheRetroRecall]

Yeah, I'll get there. :)

[@gman7949]

I have an old AMD 2 core CPU in a laptop from 2007 which is now running Windows 10, it originally had Vista on it. It runs quite well with an SSD also. Originally had 2 GB of DDR2 in it but I upgraded it to 4GB. I al considering Windows 11 for it just because I can lol

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha that sounds like a fun build. The nice thing about this old tech was the fun of seeing how far you could push it. SSD made it so much better!

[@DAVIDGREGORYKERR]

I had VISTA BUSINESS installed on a ACER TC-220 but for some reason it didn't seem to like my mouse and the Hard Drive light would stop flashing and would stay on solid so I ditched Microsoft Windows for UBUNTU 12.05LTS but now I am running LINUX Mint CINNAMON 20.3 64bit edition and everything is perfect (Sorry for shouting)

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha shout away! I've heard a lot of people replacing the OS with a Linux distro and it really had made a world of difference..

[@lillebrorsanvincent2017]

We have Tangent hifi speakers

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha no way!

[@mariushmedias]

Looks like failing 5v and 5v stand-by to me, based on all the swollen capacitors on the motherboard. Open the psu and replace the 3.3v and 5v filtering capacitors, and check the fan as well.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks! I will take a look for sure. I think once the caps are all done (as I know they cause bad behavior) and I take a look inside the PSU - we will have a much better understanding.

[@absurdgaming00]

VISTA? I hated VISTA... I stayed with XP until later on when Win 7 came out... Bad juju with Vista with me... But hey, memories are memories... Thanks XD

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha mixed feelings had by all!! Lol.

[@Mini-z1994]

Btw motherboard is an oem version of the " MSI G31M3-F " It takes 1333 fsb cpus & supports the 95w core 2 quads fine if you want too take it that far actually, might need a bios update though for q8xxx & q9xxx core 2 quads.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks! I was getting conflicting into on this board now that makes sense!!!

[@zonger420]

Looks like a Acer Aspire AX1430G I have bet a Intel version with a different front cover.

[@TheRetroRecall]

I've also had comments where it looks like the HP / Compaq line.

[@kopeckop]

for me that looks like a standard TFX power supply

[@TheRetroRecall]

The atx power supply I had worked great, and the pin out is the same. Just in a small form factor. I believe the older IBM's also used these... HIPRO I think makes them. I may luck out as I have a few stashed away!

[@voltare2amstereo]

Looks like a Compaq/HP from the era

[@TheRetroRecall]

Very similar for sure!

[@BRBTechTalk]

6:34 I hate those Intel pop on CPU coolers, so many times I have gone to service a machine and that cooler just falls off.

[@TheRetroRecall]

It was an absolute pain to get on there to be honest haha.

[@dustincarpenter1707]

We're definitely not hypoallergenic, here!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha!

[@LolJolk]

what a lovely computer to mine crypto on!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha!

[@nalinux]

I always liked the look of Vista. Much nicer than Win8 or 10, and even 7..I speak about the look, nothing else :)

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha!

[@sciencetestsubject]

The psu looks remarkably like a flex atx psu, might want to look into this format.

[@TheRetroRecall]

I think you are correct. Thanks to the community here, it helped me identify it. Now, just need to replace it.

[@larryk731]

I need a mask to look at it through all the dirt. lol

[@TheRetroRecall]

Lol. This one was bad haha

[@gentuxable]

29:40 at the time AMD and Intel stopped just increasing CPU frequencies and started calling them however they like, so Microsoft envisioned the index as reference for system requirements on games and software packages but it didn't work out.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Yes I do seem to recall this!

[@Rainbow__cookie]

looks so hp like

[@TheRetroRecall]

Actually I was thinking Compaq, but HP Bought them, so it makes sense, yes, I can totally see that.

[@monsterquinn30]

Windows 7 could of worked ok on it and even windows 10 could work on it, I had an hp dv6000 that was originally VISTA and windows 10 worked well on it

[@TheRetroRecall]

Oh for sure, however when I first do any work on these systems, I look for an OS badge. Where this had the Vista key, I figured let's see what it was like back then :)

[@redashrajal]

How do you find all of these pc's? I have been trying to do something like your channel for years.. but with no luck.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Lots and lots of consistent hunting! Online market places, yard sales, and great contacts in the community that notify me when lots like this arrive :)

[@willaimkazer9754]

I would upgrade the CPU to E8500, 3.00GHz, not what appers to me to be a E4300 at 1.8GHz. Not enough for Vista. I would install 4GB RAM if 32 bit OS and 8 GB if 64 bit OS. Memory speed should be 800MHz. I beleive PC6400, your going to want it fast with Vista. I would also try to find a compatible GPU. It will need to be a low profile GPU to fit in the 1 X16 slot available on main board. Cap plague, so chang out caps on mainboard. Don't trust that PSU, it is failed. Sometimes they fail and will run under partial load, but not full load.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thabks for this info and recommended next steps!

[@2xtreem4u]

Found data sheet ‚ for the pentium 4 pc found out that my fujitsu is the premium line

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice!

[@2xtreem4u]

@@TheRetroRecall found some unobtainium for it

[@aldwinpanny10]

Can run Windows XP on this computer?

[@TheRetroRecall]

I would say yes. Although you know with any project, there are always some fun obstacles.

[@zacharyschwanke7160]

@TheRetroRecall can i have the model number of that keyboard at 12:19?

[@TheRetroRecall]

Model 5183 PN 5187-1767 rev 1.3 Hope this helps!

[@zacharyschwanke7160]

@@TheRetroRecalland that is a hp keyboard correct?

[@TheRetroRecall]

It is!

[@cyberjack]

looks a lot like a HP system

[@TheRetroRecall]

Agreed! HP / Compaq.

[@2xtreem4u]

i connected my parallel port printer to my pc

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice!! Get some of that dot matrix printing going!

[@2xtreem4u]

@@TheRetroRecall It's a laser printer made in 2001 in japan

[@TheRetroRecall]

Cool! Brand?

[@2xtreem4u]

@@TheRetroRecall Canon

[@declanjamesbateson]

Try upgrading to Windows 10

[@TheRetroRecall]

It would definitely be able to manage that as well, with a little more ram.

[@bradleyhifi8155]

the hospital would just downgrade it to windows xp then by end of its use was upgraded to windows 7

[@TheRetroRecall]

Very possible!

[@EinSwitzer]

Uh oh

[@TheRetroRecall]

?

[@EinSwitzer]

@@TheRetroRecall special use emf

[@TheArcaneBrony]

i wouldnt feel safe in a hospital with pcs this dusty...

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha so true. It was probably used as a foot warmer lol

[@michaelwood9866]

also i will say i would never start up a pc that looked like that....i would clean it a little first just as a precaution

[@TheRetroRecall]

I've tried both methods. Both have their pros and cons of course.

[@michaelwood9866]

i just worry about possible damage it may cause.@@TheRetroRecall

[@TransitAndTeslas]

What makes this so “medical” I wonder. Probably marketing and up charge to the customer.

[@TheRetroRecall]

I think the systems are made from / with microbial materials preventing the spread of viruses etc. At least this is what I've been told from a current hospital staff member.

[@theretroblondie]

My middle school had a bunch of these. They were the same case, but they were branded ByteSpeed. Thoroughly mediocre computers, at least the ones we had.

[@TheRetroRecall]

ByteSpeed, I'm definitely going to have to look them up, never heard of them either! Thanks for sharing!

[@joemaldonado3]

nerd geeky medical IT humor: it's just clean sterile dirt ! my mind is cleaner than this !!!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Hahahahha

[@voltare2amstereo]

Vista 64bit sp3 aa very capable os

[@TheRetroRecall]

Sp3? I never knew that was around. I thought it was limited to SP2?

[@voltare2amstereo]

​@@TheRetroRecallVista and server 2003 are very related. Sp3 was released for both, 32 and 64bit. Have a play with readyboost if you use HDDs. Made shifting to w7 unnecessary for me. Went straight to W8 when ms released it at huge discount ($20 Australian)

[@craigmurray4746]

Yet another red MSI board with bad caps. About a decade ago, we got our PC supplier to get his dad to recap about 40 of our Core 2 based PC's that all had bad caps on similar MSI boards. That was my introduction to the capacitor plague and made me forever wary of MSI as a brand.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Yes, so it seems! Recapping video coming up!

[@TheRetroRecall]

You did, that's for sure!

[@vasileios6301]

@The_Rebel934 Not only Intel unfortunately, I confirm I have an amd socket 939 MSI mobo which also has bad caps. Even the onboard audio isnt working.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Ive always heard of this Cap issue, but never experienced it until I started doing the channel. I seem to be discovering it more and more.

[@craigmurray4746]

@@TheRetroRecall I wasn't aware it was even a thing until I started in my current job and then only after a few years. Manufacturers really cut corners during that time period to save a few cents per board by using inferior caps, only to have it come back and bit them in the backside when those caps gave up. I later realised that it the damage done was so bad that advertising your product had all solid or certain premium Japanese caps became a selling point that was put on the front of the box!

[@johngonzalez3502]

Had a laptop running Vista. Downgraded it to XP. XP was better than Vista

[@TheRetroRecall]

Everyone had different experiences for sure. I guess it all depended on the hardware service packs etc.

[@BilisNegra]

This era of computing is one of ugly duckling PCs these days. Early Core (as in Core i3, i5, i7) generations still get refurbished for light modern usage whereas older systems (not completely sure about Pentium 4's, Pentium III's and older definitely) are vintage already in variable degrees so they have some kind of value. Core 2 Duos however do not seem to fit either bill and get dumped typically- I like watching these get some love. When will they be valuable again (if ever)? Who knows.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha so true. Only time will tell, however I'm sure the same was said for early game carts then cd's, etc. Time and rarity generates the longing to value and locate some of this tech.

[@user-ps8hu9wd7m]

just let you no it dvd rom not reader LOL

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha true. :)

[@SirSithly]

wowzers those spec are bad

[@TheRetroRecall]

Sure, however think about what this was used for. If this was truly used in a business environment, running spreadsheets and word processing, how much power did they actually need?