The Tasmanian tiger is definitely extinct. So why do people keep report sightings of them?

[@zray2937]

"So it seems people really want to believe it's not extinct", I Can't blame them, as far as I'm concerned we are going to find a trilobite one of these days.

[@GreenPoint_one]

Yes trilobites please

[@Amlaeuxrai]

Probably not, but im genuinely surprised horseshoe crabs are still around. Resilient little critters. Theyve been around when trilobites were crawling about, and chances are they will remain even sfter humanity has gone the way of the dodo. Theyve faced all 5 previous major mass extinction events and many small ones - this one may be their closest call, but considering how incredibly important their blood is especially in developing new medicines a lot of conservation efforts are being taken to replenish their numbers.

[@marilynlucero9363]

There be a T-rex behind your tree too.

[@genghiskhan6809]

@@Amlaeuxrai I’m surprised we aren’t trying to domesticate them yet.

[@UltraViolet666]

@@marilynlucero9363 & t-rex descendants in the trees for real tho

[@gordgasperski1514]

Declaring an animal extinct does not mean it's extinct.

[@THYPOID]

Wut???

[@mountinman1898]

Yeah you can declare an animal extinct but the animal can still be alive.​@@THYPOID

[@MyFairDinkum]

Exactly. Thank you.

[@IAMAKlD]

​@mountinman1898 yeah and i just found a videk where a photographer found an extinct animal alive

[@mountinman1898]

@@IAMAKlD same I just found one about where they found some kind of red tree rat or something like that alive and it was declared extinct for 113 years

[@Montblanc1986]

I was riding my woolly mammoth with my passenger pigeon on my shoulder pirate style. All of a sudden my eye caught a tazzy tiger in the distance so I whistled at my dire wolf to run ahead and take a look...

[@BrooklynBigAl]

Did it turn out to be a Tasmanian Tiger? Or just a pack of Dodo birds?

[@shrimpisdelicious]

Did you have an onion tied to your belt, which was the style at the time?

[@UltraViolet666]

Sounds like the game Ark Survival

[@DANGJOS]

Get back in your time machine! You're in the wrong age!

[@jek__]

When youre finished how about an auroch burger?

[@wolfie1703]

The crested gecko was thought to be extinct for more than 100 years and now they are the second most common reptile pet ever!

[@tayebizem3749]

A gecko compared to a dog sized stripped animal 😂😂😂

[@StopMotioneditz]

@@tayebizem3749that has a natural fear of humans and an insane sense of smell to detect people, and I guess all that completely uncontacted land with a huge possibility of containing them is totally not real

[@blackforceswithnolaces5273]

@@tayebizem3749there are three different areas that are completely unexplored where the tigers were known to live. They very well could alive. We’ve only discovered so much there are many more animals especially in deep caves and forest that we know nothing about

[@davidsawchak1330]

@@tayebizem3749 That's what you got from that statement? Not the brightest star in the sky!

[@refindoazhar1507]

​@@davidsawchak1330 You think not finding a tiny low energy reptile that resemble dozens of similar thing in its environment is equivalent to not finding a large apex predator that need to actively hunt every few days to sate its caloric needs with extensive record of gradual disappearance and have been searched to death by people throughout its whole range?

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

Just a reminder they discovered a species of wild cat in Scotland recently, a place thats been densly populated for centuries. Now imagine a large country thats sparsely populated and how many animals could be hidden from sight

[@Ndnxnsnsn]

Mostly only the lower central belt is densely populated

[@williamsnekspeare3090]

This is the first comparison that makes sense, I'm sick of the coelocanth arguement

[@raptorsnap1738]

@@williamsnekspeare3090 it’s for reasons like that I believe there is a chance that things like Bigfoot and Tasmanian tigers exists

[@Bunny-ns5ni]

This is very weak evidence in support of the thylacine

[@lunaskisses]

What is the name of the new species?

[@SoleaGalilei]

They looked close enough to dogs or dingos that I can imagine how people would think they saw one. Same reason people still think they see Ivory-Billed Woodpeckers in north America - they looked similar to some species that do still exist.

[@dreadpirateroberts1358]

I didn't realize they were extinct until around 12 I saw one and got super exited and was told it was extinct. Idk what it was to this day but it looked like one. There are no species in my area that look like them so I can't figure out what it was instead.

[@daliborjovanovic510]

Oh definitely. Any so-called "living thylacine" footage you find online will show foxes with mange (causing the to have a long, thin tail)

[@dreadpirateroberts1358]

@@daliborjovanovic510 Oftentimes it's also a dingo or a Tasmanian tiger as well. There's lots of similar looking animals over there. And not every video has been debunked but any video that hasn't doesn't have enough detail to see it well enough to tell.

[@warrenarnold]

@@dreadpirateroberts1358 tbh i was like, that dont look like a tiger at all. Who named it??

[@dreadpirateroberts1358]

@@warrenarnold It has stripes like a tiger and is from Tasmania, thus its common name.

[@TitoTitoTitoTito]

West papua is almost completely uncharted, we didnt know that singing dogs still existed there until 2016, I dont see why thylacine couldnt also

[@brolacoleo1619]

Thylacine is more well known, but at the same time, any people in the uncharted parts of New Guinea prob wouldn’t know about it

[@keithprice475]

It's more than that - the natives say that there are two sorts of dogs there - the singing dog and the STRIPED ones...!!

[@brolacoleo1619]

@@keithprice475 they could be lying

[@keithprice475]

@@brolacoleo1619 Anyone COULD be lying at any time - you have to ask WHY they would do so and in this case, there is no obvious reason. It is a matter of 'yes since you asked, we have always known about these two types of dogs'. These are VERY isolated natives - getting in there is extremely hard to do.

[@keithprice475]

@Caden Could be! Would be interesting to hear more.

[@Maybachdemon]

the Bermuda Petrel was a species that was thought to have gone extinct in the 1620s, but over 300 years later, reports of an unidentified bird kept popping up until it was confirmed to have been the same petrel species. Thanks to conservation efforts in the 1950s up to this day, their numbers have continued to increase, all on an island about 21 sq. mi. So it doesn't seem impossible than a small population of a species could still exist on a continent as large as Australia

[@AndrewTBP]

Tasmania is not large. It’s smaller than Portugal.

[@Maybachdemon]

@@AndrewTBP But in comparison to Bermuda, which is what I was using for comparison when it comes to finding "extinct" species, Tasmania is significantly larger

[@gregmcb5305]

@@AndrewTBP It might exist in Papua New Guinea, Go look up extinct or alive forest Galante, he has discovered many species that were previously thought to be extinct and he thinks he can find it there. He rediscovered the Fernandina island tortoise, The government literally laughed at him when he said he was gonna look for it. But he found it. He also discovered a type of leopard previously thought to be extinct as well

[@matthewjefferys1855]

@@AndrewTBP The Tasmanian tiger lived on mainland Australia as well

[@johnmead8437]

@@AndrewTBP Whether the conditions and competition/predation factors have been compatible for them is the key. And how much and how well the entire suitable habitat has been investigated, thoroughly and competently. Not necessarily by "experts" many who seem the classic drip under pressure, supercilious. Extinction causes can be subtle, and short term. Wild dogs can establish, thrive into large numbers then disappear, and then their surviving prey species recover. Such temporary irruptions could have extinguished the thylacines throughout Tasmania. It has remote areas, were these ever thylacine habitat, and how well have they been investigated? Instances of birds being declared extinct, but with records of survivors living beside (even in) townships, then being reclassified not determined or existence proved have occurred. Science and "professionals" have their limitations also. And sometimes insufferable arrogance.

[@Rikku16ful]

Sometimes when people say a species has gone extinct. It pops back up years later where people don't even bother to explore and look. For example the Ocean or Forests that people never dare to go. Just because you've never seen it and others have, doesn't make it gone forever or you just 100% know its gone.

[@kingcosworth2643]

Yeah, she's very confident, 12 years ago a myself and a friend of mine found some millipedes in the Australian bush that glowed in the dark, large patches of them. Apparently these millipedes only were discovered and documented by science in the last 2 years. There are plenty of discoveries yet to be made.

[@Doggypaddle8]

There's a red squirrel that had been extinct for 20yrs. 1 day it showed up on the porch of the nature research porch. He hung out for 2hrs, posed for a bunch of pics, & then left. Only bc of where he popped up did they even realize how important those pics were.

[@jamesfowley4114]

It worked that way for mountain lions in Michigan. The dnr said there were none here, until the pictures from game cams caught dozens of them.

[@dianayount2122]

amen

[@stratosphere94]

Honestly, as a thylacine stan, I hope they're still out there lol. I know they're not but it's fun to think about 😭 I've seen a fossilised one in a cave here in Western Australia! It was super cool. Poor thing had fallen from the surface into the cave (thousands of years ago) and couldn't get out.

[@edwin5419]

Really? Which cave? Down Yallingup way? I'd love to check it out!

[@bryantnojang709]

Honestly I’d say there is a 40% chance they are still out there based on the geography of their habitat and the fact we know so little in comparison to other animals of their size gives me some hope.

[@marcob1729]

@@bryantnojang709 Tasmania is not terribly large

[@subyouwont]

@@marcob1729 exactly

[@e.antoniog.flores9721]

@@edwin5419 duuuudeeee nice name really

[@sophiamus-talbot6883]

To be fair as a Tasmanian there is so much of our state that is all just bushland that is hardly ever explored outside of a few trails. There will always be that part in my mind that there could be a small amount of them living in a corner of our state

[@susanollington5257]

As an Australian it’s so funny hearing this stuff in a non-Australian accent lol

[@Crimea_River]

As an American, I thought the same thing.

[@JollyGeo]

Same

[@FunkinFunAsHell]

same im australian

[@charlockprime]

This just in! "Thylacine 'definitely extinct!'" says some American that's never even been to Tasmania.

[@crazycherokee8552]

"Go find a thylacine and prove us all wrong" Has the same vibes as "If you think you can do it better, then you fix the car and I'll be the tool-boy" 😂

[@Temuk2]

It was already sad enough being the last Tasmanian tiger forced to live your life as the last one but then they also had to name him Benjamin, a sad fate indeed.

[@evangelionpilot]

That’s actually a rumor spread by some guy who claimed he worked at the zoo with “benjamin”. The last tasmanian tiger wasnt even actually a boy at all!

[@kingcosworth2643]

You reckon they managed to capture the actual very last animal?? I don't think you understand how big and dense the outside world is.

[@JosephsJungle8]

@@kingcosworth2643well you don’t seem to know anything about taz tigers if you think that’s how it was 💀

[@Lonluk]

​@@JosephsJungle8it does not make sense, there must have been 2/3 left in the wild

[@Skyypixelgamer]

@@evangelionpilotno the last thylacine was infact a male. People have gone back through the footage to spot its balls.. I kid you not. Though the name Benjamin wasn’t used for the animal until much later.

[@redtailfpv881]

*Forrest Galante has entered the chat*

[@banshee_studios_uk]

And for a start, Hobart zoo isn't in Australia... Can't rely on her thylacine 'research' if her geography is bollocks 😂

[@vtwindad1549]

​@@banshee_studios_ukoh isn't it? Where is Hobart then? 😅

[@banshee_studios_uk]

@@vtwindad1549 I'm aware Tasmania is an 'Australian state' but Im referring to it not being part of the mainland 🙄

[@vtwindad1549]

@@banshee_studios_uk it would be correct to say it's in Australia, knowing that it's a state of Australia and that Hobart is the most southern city in Australia - even though it's not physically connected by land. Strange way to word it

[@Slightapex]

I disagree but time will tell.

[@charliemedema86]

I like the theory that environmental organizations stated that it was extinct to discourage trophy hunters from trying to hunt the remaining few. If people believed there were none left, they wouldn't attempt to hunt them.

[@davida.4933]

Well I'm a hunter...also a biologist. Also a conservationist. Also believe the thylacine may hold on in Tasmania, mainland Australia and Papua. Also have been to Tasmania. Also have 40 cameras in Tasmania. Also have 200 more to be deployed. Also trophy hunting was not the thylacine's demise. Nor regular hunting. Rather it was habitat loss, agriculture, and the agriculturalist mentality.

[@charliemedema86]

@@davida.4933 Exactly, the thylacine's decline was caused by a large variety of factors including habitat loss, prey reduction, population dispersion, and more. I was simply noting the fact that immoral trophy hunters were more likely to hunt the remaining individuals if they were still under the impression that there was a diminished but existent population.

[@ACEfromVisa559]

They also wouldn't try to conserve them. They would prefer being able to say it's "critically endangered"

[@Sparkbomber]

Honestly, it would be nice if they could still exist. But hopes and dreams are not evidence.

[@lonestarr1490]

In 30 or 40 years from now we might say the same thing about polar bears or Amur tigers.

[@Lazyspaceout]

Amur leaporads are almost extinct about 50 left. Vaquita dolphins only have 8 left in the world and will go extinct in about 20 years or so.

[@evanmisejka4062]

@@Lazyspaceout it is awful what we have done. Us humans are the next extinction event whether we like it or not.

[@warrenarnold]

@@lonestarr1490 tbh i was like, that dont look like a tiger at all. Who named it??

[@gregmcb5305]

It might exist in Papua New Guinea, Go look up extinct or alive forest Galante, he has discovered many species that were previously thought to be extinct and he thinks he can find it there. He rediscovered the Fernandina island tortoise, The government literally laughed at him when he said he was gonna look for it. But he found it. He also discovered a type of leopard previously thought to be extinct as well

[@prezjacobs7781]

She’s reporting from her living room, I won’t take her word for it lol

[@tsjonathan]

Many parts of Tassie that are uninhabited by humans. Parts where you need to trek days to reach. Added the fact Tasmanians generally don’t tell mainlanders let alone foreigners of sightings as they want to preserve the species. They’re still out there 💯

[@alfie2113]

@@QuestionThingsUseLogicevidence?

[@harveyscottz]

Sometimes people tend to forget how extremely large Australia, Tasmania and New Guinea is

[@mousenation3867]

⁠@@harveyscottzTrue it’s bigger than Europe and so much of it is unpopulated

[@dadofjerem]

@@alfie2113they don’t want evidence u miss the point

[@MD-pl4ww]

@@mousenation3867 Tassie is 68,402 km2, Europe 10,180,000 km2 - 15x larger!!!

[@seatbelttruck]

I want them to not be extinct. I blame the Kratt Brothers. I can vividly remember the episode of Kratt's Creatures that had them searching for a Tasmanian Tiger before learning it was extinct, and then it ended with them seeing some rustling bushes, implying there may have been a Thylacine in there.

[@justalantern.713]

Sometimes, when I’m walking in the woods, I whisper to trees “I want to apologize for my fellow humans”

[@MiVidaBellisima]

Yeah this made me pretty sad

[@littleninjavangchhia9099]

Space rock has higher kill count

[@justalantern.713]

@@littleninjavangchhia9099 ya, but I kinda feel like it was supposed to happen.

[@biggibbs4678]

@@justalantern.713 Humans were also supposed to happen, we're animals just like the others.

[@brandon1234]

@@biggibbs4678 no we're not, we're special since we can drive them to extinction

[@ArjanTigchelaar]

Well, The Coelacanth was definitely extinct. UNTIL IT WASN'T! So...

[@alexvomalex]

... alive and well discoverd in 1938 and once more in 1987, it wasn't away from OUR sight so long. dah

[@ryangriffin5362]

People in East Africa and Indonesia knew about it the whole time, and it also lives in deep water. Thylacines would be like hiding a population of dogs (who need to hunt) on Tasmania, an island filled with people all the time. There's just no way you could ever do that.

[@thursoberwick1948]

The thylacine isn't "definitely" extinct, in fact there is better evidence it may still exist than some species including some half decent footage. Strangely enough, mostly from continental Australia not Tasmania.

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@ryangriffin5362 Tasmania isn't "filled" with people. Most of the population lives in or near Hobart and a few other small towns, but there is a lot of countryside in Tasmania, and also dense native bush which is their natural habitat. Many of the more convincing sightings have come from continental Australia.

[@Mynameischef]

@@thursoberwick1948 only half live in hobart, most of the central highlands is hunted often, best bet would be in and around national parks where people are less likely to explore

[@jamalalfraihat1546]

You also thought a specific type of turtle was extinct until one was found

[@Yvhv78]

There’s an old story that says that there was a ship headed to the Bronx zoo back in the 1920s that got shipwrecked on its way to the Bronx zoo. Part of the cargo of the ship were some thylacine. So the legend goes that these thylacine made it to shore and began breeding and started a small population in the United States. Coincidentally, this is right around the time the chupacabra sightings started. Legend says that the chupacabra are actually these thylacine trying to make a comeback.

[@geekyprojects1353]

Some animals resemble each other due to the convergent evolution. Tasmanian tiger was called marsupial wolf for a reason. This is probably the reason why people keep seeing stray dogs and thinking this must be the thylacine. You may be excited to see a kangaroo in Europe and it turns out to be a really big dog taking a dump.

[@IGrocker]

There was a kangaroo running loose in SW Wisconsin once, about 15 minutes from my hometown. Wasn’t missing from any zoos, and nobody claimed it as far as I know! Weirdest thing to ever happen in the area.

[@alicia234]

@@IGrocker just curious, where did it turn out to be from?

[@IGrocker]

@@alicia234 I don’t think they ever determined that!

[@alicia234]

@@IGrocker interesting! That’s so cool. Though I do know a lot of people have exotic pets. I may want a fennec fox one day.

[@g.3581]

@@IGrocker There’s also a ton of wallabies in the UK. They escaped from zoos a while back and there’s already an established population in some areas like the Isle of Man

[@TheMajorStranger]

I think it's sad when a species go extinct. So I can't blame people from wanting to believe it's still out there.

[@michaelsmith9714]

"Definitely" is a term that has been disproved many a time. I am from an area where they once were. The bush is dense and not many people go there. It doesn't hurt anyone to believe Tasmanian tigers still live on. People from these areas want their solitude. If I was up there and I saw one that secret would stay with me. I wouldn't want extra people coming up and disturbing the serenity.

[@TheSitious]

This. Honestly, I don't see what's so wrong about people wanting to believe they still exist. Hell, maybe one day we'll discover them again and then everyone that attacked people for believing would look like fools, lol. We've rediscovered a variety of "extinct" species in the past, there's no reason that we should rule out their survival entirely just because "nobody has recorded proper evidence." Let people believe what they want. Their opinions aren't harming you or making your day any worse, lmao.

[@joeyvgang]

Alledgedly 2 mating pairs were sailed overseas and crashed. The remains of the thylacene pairs were never found, meaning there is plausible reality that they are in fact walking around the US

[@Apes_Together_Stronk]

Fun fact: The Dodo outlived the Roman Empire

[@angelalewis3645]

This fact makes me happy.

[@sirpibble]

"Definitely" How very unscientific of you

[@extinction9313]

Cope

[@DISCRECTIONGR0VE]

+seethe

[@dud3655]

It's fricking dead. No bones, bodies, tracks, photographs or basically any definitive evidence that proved it is alive have come up. If such a famous animal would still be alive today, it would be found with ease. Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and the Chupacabra are something different, they never existed in the first place.

[@Nobody32990]

@@extinction9313 seethe

[@imk2007]

@@extinction9313 your name is perfect for this

[@ytpremium9462]

They might be in New Guinea? Not saying they are but there’s a lot of remote places out there.

[@Mcrawf21]

Yep. If there is any chance, that is where it is.

[@PrimalBoos]

Definitely, especially some islands in the Bismarck archipelago.

[@conorwhitehead1823]

Sadly, they were extinct in New Guinea long before European explorers arrived. They most likely became extinct due to human population growth (and, thus, hunting) and the domestication/arrival of dogs - like how they became extinct on mainland Australia.

[@thursoberwick1948]

Some of the most convincing signtings and photos come from continental Australia where they are supposedly long gone. There is a lot of bush in Tasmania for them to live in.

[@andyjay729]

Have any fossils of them been found in New Guinea?

[@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394]

How can it be extinct? I saw one in that Willem Dafoe movie.

[@mythinho]

bruh wth its a movie maybe its a cgi

[@pabnckncykma1297]

@@mythinho r/woooosh

[@pabnckncykma1297]

@Pabnckn Cykma r/woooosh

[@rakurobot]

🤣

[@warrenarnold]

@@pabnckncykma1297 tbh i was like, that dont look like a tiger at all. Who named it?? more like wild dog

[@AthenaPOfficial]

I think it’s definitely harder to prove an animal is extinct than to prove it’s still around. It wouldn’t be the first time an animal has avoided us for close to a hundred years. Rediscoveries aren’t as uncommon as you’d think 👍 I’m still hopeful

[@asoncalledvoonch2210]

I bet somewhere in Tasmania Neil Waters saw this video and is furious. The truth hurts most people but the truth is always much needed 💯

[@iamelvisman68]

At least he's out there trying

[@asoncalledvoonch2210]

@@iamelvisman68 He's trying to be famous. That's all he cares about and finding the thylacine would make the person who found it extremely famous. 🥶TRUTH

[@iamelvisman68]

@@asoncalledvoonch2210 woopdeefuckingdoo. If becoming fame for actually finding a thylacine is the truth i wish him all the fame.

[@millytheomegawolf6175]

the main reason i hope they are still alive is because we where the ones that put it in the ground. I may need a bit of a refresher on the history of them, but it makes me so sad knowing we purposefully drove them to extinction. we've gotten better trying to keep animals alive, but many still slip through the cracks. Thats all i have to say.

[@SecretSquirrelFun]

You are correct - they put a bounty on them, and, well we all know how that works out. Humans are just the worst animal of the lot imo.

[@gorehorse7953]

its very likely the Thylacine is still out there. this woman has clearly never been here.

[@deeemceetooisbaesgaem7211]

he's still alive in our hearts 😔

[@AreEnTee]

*she. Benjamin was actually a girl

[@capybara455]

The le palma lizard was declared extinct in 1500 and was rediscovered in 2000 we are never posing hope

[@overworlder]

Most of Tasmania is still forest and wilderness today. I'm not doubting thylacines are extinct, it's just curious they did so when they had those forests as a refuge.

[@leaderofthesociety1775]

It wasn't their preferred environment, they wouldn't live in the incredibly dense temperate rainforest areas

[@overworlder]

@@leaderofthesociety1775 - Distribution maps showed they avoided the southwest, but that still leaves a lot of forest, maybe half the island.

[@johnmead8437]

@@overworlder How accurate were the maps, or more to them point, comprenhensive? Have there been feral cat/dog irruptions in Tasmania's history? Have any diseases etc been introduced that affected them?

[@HibiscusFlowerFC]

Well we may have just gotten a few pics “allegedly “ 😅.

[@stephen9869]

Can you guys possibly make a video on how and when animals first learned to instinctively fear humans? I know its a tricky one!! I just got the idea when a bird came up to the birdfeeder outside my bedroom window, but flew off without feeding as soon as it noticed me, and it got me thinking...

[@stephen9869]

@@samarnadra Yes, precisely!

[@iamelvisman68]

Deep

[@kingcosworth2643]

About the time humans evolved. We are meat eaters and hunters. We are not like other carnivores that eat carrion, we are what is classed as a 'predator'. Animals for the most part a quite wary of any animal that isn't part it's species. We have always hunted animals so animals have always been scared of us.

[@thrillamanilla2545]

Tony Montana voice: "You're my Tasmanian tiger"!!

[@themesozoicworld6586]

I believe it is still out there and I have a reason why. People believed that the Zanzibar leopard was extinct but it turned out to be alive hidden from the ENTIRE WORLD in the jungles of Africa , while a war was going on in its natural habitat, and this animal is even larger than the thylacine and if Forrest Galante believes it is still out there in the wilds of the outback or somewhere in New Zealand I 100% have faith he will find it. Sincerely, a logistical dreamer

[@mussy9387]

I mean animals have been proven living after being extinct before, it ain't that unreasonable to believe that a Tasmanian Tiger might still be out there

[@andrewpaige1194]

They are for sure. People who live in the right remote areas see them regularly.

[@fart63]

@@andrewpaige1194 she literally talked about those in the video. Despite thousands of “reported sightings” nobody credible has ever seen one.

[@Dontdoit_]

Well there’s be instances where an animal has been thought extinct for 50-100+ years to find out there is still a population

[@johnmead8437]

Many more being confirmed extinct though, and accelerating

[@simonburke8341]

As a huge lover of wanting the thylacine to be alive, also i am Australian, I agree with PBS and can say it has sadly died out! :(

[@stevenkunkle3857]

I can say the sky is green and the Moon is blue but that doesn't make it true

[@meh457]

@@stevenkunkle3857 gonna use this on my students for the rest of my life, thanks

[@johnmead8437]

@@meh457 Do it via social media & it will be incontrovertible fact for many of them

[@jamilahmed979]

Forest Galante "Hold my beer"

[@shaykitoffe6411]

There are unexplored areas. Not in JUST Tasmania. scientists and explorers say they (might?) still exist. By little clans at a time. And there were very honest people that have claimed they have seen some 1-4 at a time.

[@azteriaaa]

"thylecine" sounds like a prescription drug

[@williamsnekspeare3090]

Or an era of time

[@polly5770]

Or an amino acid

[@DFloyd84]

Obviously, the thylacines are hanging out with Steve and that's why we can't find them!

[@Kuwagattai]

Who's Steve

[@mossablahmaza]

Probably a thylacine stan from some Vice documentary

[@DFloyd84]

@@Kuwagattai He was a long-time Patreon supporter of the show. After he stopped contributing, the comments section is sad that "and Steve!" doesn't feature at the end of the Eontologist shout-outs anymore.

[@Kuwagattai]

@@DFloyd84 ooh :( hope nothing bad happened to Steve

[@Sagealeena]

I thought you were talking about Steve Irwin, he would’ve been stocked if they were found again

[@poprey300]

Slightly condescending.

[@SilverFoxSpirit97]

I mean I really wish it wasn't extinct. Tanzanian Tiger look amazing and the idea of having another apex predator in Australia is wild to me

[@AphelionYt]

I have to give some criticism, Benjamin wasn´t the name, it was made up by a guy in the 60´s who claimed that he worked at the Hobart zoo when he never had. I don´t believe they still exist but unlike Megalodon, there is a possibility that some still remain in the sparsely populated parts of Tasmania (which is like the entire island). Again, I don´t think they still exist

[@emanovska]

Having seen people ID an orange tabby as a mountain lion and the neighbors old husky mutt as a wolf I'd say it's mostly because people have no clue.

[@fart63]

Orange tabby as a mountain lion? Lmao were they blind?

[@SpeakUrMindShareUrWords]

Hopefully, there’s genetic material from these amazing animals so hopefully it can be brought back.

[@adamthompson4072]

Next you're gonna tell us there's no moose in New Zealand

[@patrickbush9526]

There's no moose in New Zealand

[@adamthompson4072]

@@patrickbush9526 that's what they say, but you never know. The last concrete evidence they were still around was in 2002

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@patrickbush9526 There were when I last visited.

[@SecretSquirrelFun]

Ha ha yes, that would be a sad day indeed.

[@muin_]

There's no new zealand in Moose

[@Paytonspage]

I was flying my pterodactyl this morning on my morning fly and I saw a few talking to a mammoth

[@crazycatlady39]

Probably because then we as a species can 'feel' better about ourselves because 'we didn't really cause their extinction' like it absolves us of some terrible crime.

[@Ulfhednar-o9t]

I guess some of us regret being of the same species that got this beautiful animal into extinction and wish it didnt happen

[@greva2904]

All of the online footage I’ve seen of alleged thylacines have pretty obviously been introduced european foxes sighted from a distance with various degrees of mange. I wish I could say that thylacines were probably still out there somewhere, but with every year that passes the chances get ever more remote. Gutted.

[@knightofavalon86]

I don’t disagree with the point of this video, however science cannot prove a negative. I like the “no reasonable doubt “phrasing , but “definitively extinct” is literally unscientific.

[@thursoberwick1948]

About all science can say for sure is that they're rare. There is more evidence for the persistence of this species than for many others.

[@tovarischkrasnyjeshi]

I mean if you believe Karl Popper, the only thing science can do is prove a negative - the whole falsifiability thing relies on something being falsified. Using mathematical proofs is also within the grasp of physics and can be the backbone of a lot of logically complicated sciences like linguistics or computer science (as in the research into questions of computational efficiency/algorithms/physical implementations etc moreso than "undergrad learning python") for example. That said I think most people who care know that science is a combination of rationalism (logic), empiricism, and that falsifiability issue, even if they don't think they do. And matters of empiricism like thylacines existing don't fit being proven or disproven at all because empiricism is fundamentally about inference, i.e. it's basically statistics, where reasonable certainty is a matter of deciding an arbitrary cutoff of the chance of being wrong, with industry generally accepting 2 sigma, social sciences accepting 3 sigma, physics accepting 5 sigma, etc. But language around it I think is just being tricky, where basically the same word means different things in rationalism, empiricism, and popperism, and most scientists just aren't aware. Speaking as a linguist, words don't have meanings, they have usages, and it just happened that the language around the different approaches converges in a confusing way. Even generally, without any of this philosophy of science behind us, while sure etymological fallacies are a thing, if we follow the etymology of "definitely" from de "pertaining to" and fin "end" we get that "crossing over the ending line in the sand we drew" metaphor inherent to empiricism. While we definitely tend to think "definitely" means "absolutely", we really don't use it that way, and I think the etymology shows us why we don't use the word that way.

[@Endarius_Termina]

because Coelacanths cheated so who knows if another species did . . . XD

[@_Opal_Miner_]

So you'd be unhappy if we said sauropods are definitely extinct?

[@WESsential]

@@_Opal_Miner_Sauropods ARE definitely extinct. Thylacines have only recently gone extinct, in the geological sense. Considering they ranged all across the Sahul continent at the last glacial maximum, there is a possibility that relict populations persist in Mainland Australia or New Guinea. New Guinea is one of the least explored regions in the world, and I mean that in a purely scientific, not colonial sense. It's more than likely Thylacines are extinct, but I wouldn't say "it's definitely extinct". This attitude also discounts the experiences of Indigenous peoples who go against the scientific consensus.

[@suhasvigneshwar678]

Humans be like: Let's hunt them all and make em extinct Also humans: Weh... Well, I think it's still out there in the wild

[@probablynotdad6553]

"Defintely" - people that haven't got off their arm chairs and went to look in any of the thousands of miles it ranged in across multuple islands and countries

[@Zeithri]

This makes me think of the sad theme from " _EVO The Search for Eden / Alt Jp Title: The 4.6 Billion Year Story_ " 😭 The Tazmanian Tiger lost the evolutionary run.

[@serialzero1979]

That was one of my favorite SNES games growing up! :)

[@Zeithri]

@@serialzero1979 It's a fantastic game. A sort of pseudo-remake / sequel to the PC-98 original called " _The 4.6 Billion Year Story - The Theory of Evolution_ ", or in Japanese, " _46 Okunen Monogatari - The Shinkaron_ ", also a great game I recommend checking out!

[@joshDammmit]

Bro, they were wiped out by humans.

[@Jason75913]

@@joshDammmit everyone knows that, that's part of the thylacine's story, you can't read about them without that coming up

[@ussinussinongawd516]

@@Jason75913 it was wiped out by humans so it didn't really lose in evolution

[@manioremob5721]

"So what is this?" "You guys said prove us wrong thag this animal is extinct so when i saw it, it was hard to catch and i didnt have the camera so i just killed it and here is the body, now as you can see they are not extinct" "Arrest this man"

[@TheCuratorIsHere]

I live in Tassie and they are still around. We just don’t tell you guys.

[@Crab_Shanty]

You bastards, keeping them to yourselves

[@BoobooSnafu]

🤣Ikr..."shhhh, don't tell !"

[@MD-pl4ww]

hahahahaha

[@mollyanderson9111]

Had this video game growing up called "Ty the tasmanian tiger" and there's this distinct moment of my childhood where I found out they were all gone and I cried about it

[@TheMightyN]

Last time I checked, there was recorded footage of some strange marsupial. Scientists only declare animals extinct probably they aren't looking hard enough--and Earth is a playground the most people never finish in their lifetime.

[@robrice7246]

"The Tasmanian tiger is definitely extinct." Unless people want to clone them.

[@Magneticlaw]

From what remains? Is one in a freezer somewhere?

[@KhanMann66]

@@Magneticlaw In a jar actually. They have a preserved baby in a museum.

[@Endarius_Termina]

@@Magneticlaw Preserved Fetuses, babies, skins, bones, teeth. Actually funny enough is next to the wooly mammoth they have the most completely mapped genome because they are one of the most genetically researched extinct animals.

[@Plys3n]

I don't think there are any close enough relatives to the Tasmanian tiger for current closing processes to work. :/

[@Endarius_Termina]

@@Plys3n Actually Tasmanian Devils and Numbats are the two candidates as the numbat is the closest living relative but tassie devils are carnivorous so they get precedence despite being slightly further away on the tree so to speak; however due to the dropping number of Tassie Devils both species may be lost permanently .

[@morbiusv5857]

poor benjamin...

[@warrenarnold]

tbh i was like, that dont look like a tiger at all. Who named it?? More like wild dog

[@morbiusv5857]

@@warrenarnold I believe it was because of the stripes

[@AdrianRobles19]

Not if Forrest Galante has anything to say about it!!

[@brolacoleo1619]

Lol but It’s still not likely that he will find anything definitive

[@LeGheyTrash]

@@brolacoleo1619 well he did find a Zanzibar leopard, an extinct shark, and an extinct Galapagos tortoise so it’s possible

[@mayhem7455]

No. Sightings are being reported because they're still out there.

[@badbiker666]

I don't live in Australia, but if someone spots a Thylacine, I will be jumping for joy!!!

[@clicheguevara5282]

This didn’t age well. 😂

[@necessaryevile]

I was hunting mammoth out with my pack of raptors and we saw a whole flock of them there tigers!

[@johnmead8437]

Been sharing with TAGOA hierarchy

[@cottagecheese2483]

Forrest Galante: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that"

[@asmonet]

And Benjamin died by freezing to death after the zookeeper forgot to bring him inside overnight.

[@joybernard7359]

Maybe it’s hanging out with bigfoot and learning his hiding techniques!?

[@90skid97]

Way to kill the vibe haha. Now I hope it will be found even more

[@realityquotient7699]

Mountain lions/cougars don't live in New York State any more either, according to the 'experts'.

[@RocLobo358]

But no one is claiming mountain lions are extinct

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@RocLobo358 They're claiming they are extinct in the east.

[@gasparinha]

I saw one with my own eyes in 1996 - Orange County, crossing a country road at dusk. It was eerie...

[@realityquotient7699]

@@gasparinha When I lived in Canandaigua I saw a fresh cat's footprint in the snow that was the size of my hand. Pretty sure that wasn't little Suzy's lost Mr. Fluffykins.

[@MaureenLycaon]

But they keep wandering eastward from the West as their population expands. Nowadays I wouldn't dismiss any sighting out of hand.

[@seheadhunter50]

You can't say it's definitely instinct if you can't prove that and you can't.

[@rstainsbury]

Didn’t REALY explore the question in the title...

[@derrickthewhite1]

yeah, It'd be nice to actually answer the question posed.

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

source: dude trust me

[@christianeaster2776]

There is a man in southern mainland Australia that has video of something that definitely looks like a thylacine. It was featured on an episode of Josh Gates's Expedition Unknown. The video while a little fuzzy showed an animal that was the right size and had the characteristic stripes on the rear. Some people have been mistaking another Australian animal called a quarle for the thylacine. But it is much smaller and has too many stripes along with spots.

[@starbirds2464]

“The Tasmanian tiger is extinct and there’s no proof it’s still living” Forrest galante: hold my Indonesian man who eats them regularly and who’s entire tribe is well familiarised with the species

[@gigifabulous]

Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today!!

[@AliHSyed]

I have a pet thylacine but I'm not gonna share pics. Deal with it 😤

[@DBT1007]

K then

[@HeraldoftheMEME]

@@DBT1007 cancel culture much 🤨???

[@thoughtfuldevil6069]

I have a pet dog. He has no legs and scales and never barks but his tank was labelled 'dog' so he must be one.

[@williamsnekspeare3090]

Yeah i have a velociraptor. It just- goes to another school-

[@AliHSyed]

@@williamsnekspeare3090 loool

[@Ereh_Ereh]

^ I didn’t know what to make my name when I first got instagram so I just mixed the first two letters of my name with my favorite animal at the time.

[@williamsnekspeare3090]

Lmao

[@johnsheppard4428]

My dad's friend from South Africa visited us and when we went hunting we saw a moose run into the bush at dusk and he honestly thought it was a cape Buffalo. People see what they are familiar with.

[@jonsutherland2446]

It's entirely possible that they adapted to life in the ocean and are now hiding in the mariana trench along with all the megalodons. We've only explored 20% of the oceans lol.

[@SilverEye91]

You think they became underwater animals in just a couple of generations?

[@jonsutherland2446]

@@SilverEye91 oh absolutely. It makes perfect sense if you don't think about it.. to be clear. I don't believe they grew fins and swam down there, that would be ridiculous. I'm pretty sure they built a submarine.

[@MrKhho100]

I'm only going to say there are a lot of university fundings for searching of thylacines. Even Forrest Galante has high hopes. No declaration to prove it is not extinct. But just high hopes that the species could recover.

[@piggyslayer1999]

yeah way to many people have written off the chance of something like this happening, honestly we find "extinct" species all the time. I get its unlikely due to ALOT of factors, but to say something with 100% certainty like your all knowing makes me think that the people saying it are riding too high a horse of mental superiority.

[@indyrock8148]

Come spend some extended time living and working in our forests and mountains. You probably won't see a Thylacine. But you will see some weird stuff for sure.

[@m.nt.9158]

What have you seen ?

[@indyrock8148]

Big Cat

[@ivarbrouwer197]

This video offers no new insight, nor nuance or explanation as to why stories around the thylacine are still reported. There are people out there firmly believing they have seen them and It’s fascinating to see people so convinced in the absence of proof. How does that work? Are there similar myths out there in the world that have been proven to be correct/incorrect after the extinction definition was given. (After all the definition is very much arbitrary, there’s no nuance to it even if the animals presumed extinct in question could be quite elusive)

[@cogentankur]

The reason why thylacine got extinct is because of entry of Dingos( indian pariah dog) 5000 years back by some sailing Indians who came to Australia when India was the only single civilization in the world. The proof for this is the Australian aboriginal people carry some Indian DNA which dates back to 5000 years. There are also several more proofs like the cave paintings etc. 🇮🇳🙏

[@cogentankur]

The reason why thylacine got extinct is because of entry of Dingos( indian pariah dog) 5000 years back by some sailing Indians who came to Australia when India was the only single civilization in the world. The proof for this is the Australian aboriginal people carry some Indian DNA which dates back to 5000 years. There are also several more proofs like the cave paintings etc. 🇮🇳🙏

[@ivarbrouwer197]

@@cogentankur thnx dude, but that was not the answer I was looking for…

[@dragoneer121]

A lot of sightings are actually things like quolls and pademelons. You see other marsupials in the bush and they will look similar on a 720p trail camera zoomed in on a soot in the corner where there is something moving. Thats what the mist recent evidence was. However they probably did last a few more decades while some areas of Tasmania where still barely populated

[@ralphrex9118]

Having been to Tasmania and seen the uninhabited bit, anything could be in there and you’d never know.

[@callanightshade8079]

The last one was NOT a male named Benjamin in that zoo. It was actually a female and I wanna say it was the British Zoo or something like that. Can't remember fully, just know that it wasn't a male named Benjamin

[@HOORAY4BOOTAY5]

I think that's correct, not a male nor named Benjamin.

[@NWednesdayQuansah]

I'm still waiting for a pleisiosaur. 🥺

[@Shockwave-ob2tx]

Until some are found. Coelacanth anyone?

[@ozarklisa1199]

Go ahead and call everyone who has reported a sighting, liars and delusional. That's really credible of you. The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

[@HeraldoftheMEME]

Quote *~ Jim Jones*

[@ozarklisa1199]

@@HeraldoftheMEME if Jim Jones said it, he was quoting Carl Sagan, grasshopper

[@HeraldoftheMEME]

@@ozarklisa1199 silly mortal everyone knows Carl Sagan was a Jim Jones Orbiter 😉

[@ozarklisa1199]

@@HeraldoftheMEME silly wabbit

[@Gashouse69]

We thought the Coelacanth went extinct at the end of the Cretaceous Period until one was caught in a fishing net in 1938. So you never know.

[@chriskerley9576]

Forrest gallante just did an update. Someone has photos.