The Tech Tree should be Deleted from Rust

[@Wessel_23]

Having 25.154 hours with 4 games combined is a much bigger problem than the tech tree in rust

[@sunrover5043]

thank you

[@Mattyy25]

Well I have over 50k hours over about 8 games combined so how would you describe how big the actual problem is in comparison?

[@MemphisHadley]

@@Mattyy25 playing games for a time of 5 years straight is insane, do you not touch grass my guy?

[@Mattyy25]

@@MemphisHadley 6 years straight* but I love grass my guy

[@saintskillerdntfkwth]

@@MemphisHadley its not really insane at all lmao its pretty normal for a hardcore gamer, also there's a good portion of that time spent not actually playing the game and just afk

[@chrisitansanchez2601]

Bro you have an actual addiction

[@Mattyy25]

Addictions*

[@chrisitansanchez2601]

@@Mattyy25 😮

[@Chocolate9897]

I think you're gunna play regardless..

[@Mattyy25]

I uninstalled rust to save space, yeah I'll play it after I'm really bored if a friend asks me in the future, or maybe on a Thursday force wipe but yeah I agree. I'm not really the one talking shit in the video or the comments I have no problem with rust. I'm saying for the playerbase I think it's better because I'm not really a selfish person. I'm more fair and patient than most people so I don't think removing the tech tree is the best because some items need to be or should be of a result of direct progression. But it's all good.

[@parkerOnRust]

As a solo myself. Long love the tech tree. It creates a buffer, ensuring I don’t get c4 raided on day 1. Personally, I only play Monday and Tuesday night and I manage on as a solo. I’m sure where the problem is here. Sorry for the negative comment.

[@Mattyy25]

it's ok. It's just my opinion. If you like the faster progression and a clear easy path to crafting its whatever lol. I don't hate it I just think it'd change player behavior for the better overall game experience.

[@parkerOnRust]

@@Mattyy25 I get where you are coming from and you could be on to something. Please don't feel like I'm being negative. IMO the survival aspect of rust is no longer prevalent. If the tree was removed, a different system would need to be in place, what that is, I'm not sure.

[@garfield2293]

This might sound insane at first but think about it, what about no BPs at all? Besides very specific items. Tools, meds, things like that.

[@Mattyy25]

That would make progression even faster than the tech tree. I want people to actually play out server wipes you know. Some people do but most do not past day 1.

[@billybillee8160]

so as soon as you start the game you win WOW i wish i was this lazy

[@Mattyy25]

No you think What I mean is there are no items to research? and you just get to craft any item like in 2017 if you have the mats. I don't think I said that but I could have implied that. I meant you got to find the literally item, unlike winning the game in the first hour or two like you said where you can just farm 3-4k scrap with 2 people in 2-3 hours. You got to get the RNG of looting it or raiding for it. I still want items to reserach but you got to find it. Sorry for the book.

[@homer-edits]

@@Mattyy25 It wouldn't work imo, the tech tree is one of the greatest things that has happened to rust. with your idea, it would massively increase the progression time and the skill level to even enjoy the game. rust would lose a lot of players, thus lose money. new players would get confused and quit the game before even experiencing the beauty of it. which would lead to no one buying the game, thus again, losing money. and at the end of the day, it's all about money 👍

[@Mattyy25]

new players have tutorial island now, I've never done it but I know they have it. I get what you mean though. The direction for progression is gone without the tech tree for newer players?

[@toestedtv]

dude making rust just default no bp is craaaazy

[@Mattyy25]

I agree

[@Mattyy25]

so I want you to have to find the bp, and I think this would encourage raiding more and slowing progression on guns. You'd still need the level of workbenches.

[@dannybower1985]

What a about solos going up against 5-10 man teams we need the tech tree for solos

[@Mattyy25]

you'd have more days to build you're little base. How would they raid you if they couldn't find a satchel? Bone knifes? That would be hilarious.

[@daan676]

@@Mattyy25 what do you mean with bone knives?? and finding a satchel isn't hard.

[@justins1917]

​@Mattyy25 i get what you mean. The tech tree is SOOO easy now

[@sunrover5043]

@@Mattyy25 you find satchels outta brown boxes my guy, they gonna get it day 1 anyway

[@Mattyy25]

@@sunrover5043 Yeah but think about how you feel when you loot a military box on wipe day, that is how would feel on wipe day with a brown. The browns would be way more looted and gone far, You see an electrical fence. You go for that bitch and the hopes of finding something fat. And I'd rather have 6 mans raiding a 20-30 minute process on day 1 over rocket raiding a solo in 2 minutes.

[@orphscookie8047]

this happens pay to win items increase 3-4x in value.

[@Mattyy25]

I don't get what you're trying to say

[@orphscookie8047]

@@Mattyy25 If this happens, pay to win items, like surgeon scrubs increase 3-4x in value, that's all I'm saying. Also why do u have 20k hours in video games my guy you need to get a useful hobby.....

[@nigelsilla27]

@@orphscookie8047 why would it increase?

[@orphscookie8047]

@@nigelsilla27 no bp requirement it's not rocket science.

[@nigelsilla27]

@@orphscookie8047 im still confused on what ur saying are you saying.

[@BadAimPlays]

[US] Raven Survival PVE [xCraft] has no tech tree

[@Mattyy25]

oh

[@William0271]

Turn you volume WAY up please

[@Mattyy25]

oh

[@Omgadumpling]

You know that you CAN just put a handicap on yourself and not use the tech tree? What you are asking doesn’t make sense for the majority of the player base.

[@Mattyy25]

ok

[@cheekymonkey6791]

Rust can be brutal, find yourself a server more suited to your skill/experience and what you want out of the game.

[@Mattyy25]

Yeah but that's so whack. I want noobs to enjoy the same game and server as posty and Trausi Senpai. I also want posty to enjoy the game too if you know what I mean.

[@cheekymonkey6791]

@@Mattyy25 Put the blood, sweat and hours in of someone like Posty and then maybe you can enjoy playing solo on the most competitive servers. Don't expect everybody to have to change for you.

[@Mattyy25]

@@cheekymonkey6791 posty does not enjoy playing solo, always 5 more

[@dinin_alone]

I think you should activate windows

[@Mattyy25]

yah but dont I have 2 buy it?

[@timvan_tv]

just make a custom server

[@Mattyy25]

oh

[@aidzombie]

can barely hear you lil bro

[@Mattyy25]

Tech Tree makes progression way too fast for clans and smaller groups, Getting items from rng to research / making raiding worth it and more apart of the progression rather than just raiding people you don't like/people that annoy you.

[@aidzombie]

@@Mattyy25 i'm ngl that's a great idea

[@Mattyy25]

@@aidzombie thanks

[@drizzle3804]

Are you talking about vanilla servers? How is it taking a GROUP a month to nearly max out bps. When I play solo on 2x & 3x and youre maxing out all the bps bar the stupid ones in maximum 3 or 4 days. With you playing in a group and having 5k more hours than me im not sure how youre failing to get BP's? There no other feeling like farming 2k scrap, getting ready to run it back to base to upgrade tech tree. Only to be shotgunned when you get to your door. I love that feeling, and since you wanna get rid of that feeling im going to have to dislike. Long live the Tree

[@Mattyy25]

I'm saying without the tech tree it would take months and months on a monthly server to get every single BP because you'd have to RNG loot some random electrical part, and I want raiding to be more a part of progression instead of the tech tree so that farming isnt the whole progression. So later in the wipe, easier bases to raid would be more contested to raid. No one wants to farm for an hour or two to online/offline raid someone for their items right now because its a huge L, not worth it anyway if you die or even succeed. Like why do that if you have all the BPS, You can just farm scrap and tech tree anything in 30 minutes and go pvp on a fresh server. You don't need their loot at some point. You can still farm 2k scrap and go buy stuff at a vending machine. I actually don't think its a bad idea to add like maybe a rocket BP Vending machine at a launch site, A launcher vending machine at an Oil Rig. Thoughts?

[@satan743]

Months and months to get all the bps???? what are you doing for scrap my man. Even on weekly and biweekly servers we get pretty much every BP as a duo/trio. Tech tree actually helps smaller groups, If every time you try to contest a high tier monument for high tier loot there's a 5-10 man clan there then how do you ever expect to get certain items without tech treeing them. I just dont really understand your point I guess, you think tech tree helps large groups and makes items less valuable and everyone plays like rats. I'll tell you what, if you make items more valuable by removing the tech tree then guess who is not gonna leave their base with anything more than a DB. 5.3k hours of wood farming it looks like. If you really have a problem with large groups, go play a small group server.

[@Mattyy25]

Mhmm so how long do you think it takes for a solo to get all the bps with the tech tree? I feel like it would take me months to get all the bps, every single one to bring it back to base and research and not die. Without missing a single one with no tech tree. I'm not saying like to play the game I'm saying like every single electrical part, I don't think you can find HQ car parts without teching but thats a unique thing that can be fixed. I think it would help smaller groups because 3 bow guys can defend a raid againts a 6 man with revvys in certain situations, I think 2 3 man groups with bows can counter a 9 man satchel raiding on day 1 or 2 with revys. And yeah I don't want people leaving their base for a few hours with anything but a DB, prim weps, Thats my point. It's even boring for large groups after a day to dominate week after week after week.

[@satan743]

@@Mattyy25 I think perhaps I'm still misunderstanding you. It would take a solo much longer to get every BP without a tech tree system. Is your problem with the entire BP system in general? Like do you think you shouldnt be able to craft anything complex? Because I played pre tech tree with clans and post tech tree with clans and the amount of time it takes before you're mass crafting gear sets is pretty comparable. The difference of controlling a high tier monument and taking the gun back to research vs farming scrap and teching down is about the same for a large group. Having played both a significant amount of hours solo/small group and with large groups I can say, If you are bored of dominating week after week because you're in a 30 man clan then I think you need to reevaluate what exactly is making the game boring. Then go do a solo wipe.

[@katinokatoso1073]

500 views one like, likely by himself lol

[@Mattyy25]

I just woke up, now the video has 160 more views and 3 more likes. so ill like the video right now and put it at 5 likes

[@xDSticker]

Maybe you stop telling people how to like the game. The existence of monthly servers with no bp wipes AND players on it, tells you that other people think different on this topic.

[@Mattyy25]

I dont think monthly servers should bp wipe either

[@harmatodlamstel6435]

@@Mattyy25 Mine doesnt

[@Mattyy25]

​@@harmatodlamstel6435 yeah I love those servers

[@katinokatoso1073]

redditor

[@Mattyy25]

I don't really morale check people by talking shit to people. So not really a redditor personality IMO.

[@nigelsilla27]

take guns off of tech tree keep elec but everything else needs to go

[@Mattyy25]

I like that idea

[@J16179]

I wish when you spawned in a server you had to jump out of a plane like pubg or fort. That way you can land wherever you want. Rust has parachutes and it would be so much better than spawning on the Beach.

[@homer-edits]

won't remove the problem tho. it would make wipe day unplayable. imagine this, force wipe day, rustoria main, 5 20+ deep clans join the server and fight for an ice lake, can you imagine the lag and the chaos? 100 people in one spot, hitting trees, nodes, fighting, running around placing things. I think rust has much bigger problems than the tech tree. for example the game not being optimized enough.

[@Mattyy25]

@@homer-edits The game is laggy sometimes on wipe day at outpost. Which is pretty cringe. Yeah that is a big problem imo with very little bases.

[@Mattyy25]

imagine at airfield, You get it in a airdrop plane that rolls out of hanger 1, its a new event and you can loot the plane than you sail off of it on the air drop.

[@homer-edits]

@@Mattyy25 I personally don't have the best pc, I play on high graphics with 70-90fps, on wipe days in outpost I'd be lucky to get 40, so imagine that 5x, it would literally be unplayable.

[@homer-edits]

@@Mattyy25 brother, I've read this like 20 times, didn't understand a word u said 😭

[@DawidB-05]

No a tech tree gives a sense of direction and progression moslty for new players, i do understand you point but it would end up in a battle of man-power and luck, which in hindsight would make Rust's gameplay loop more repetetive and harder agian moslty for newcomers and solos. The tech tree removal would make the game less popular and player count would drop. Just like the hardcore update that died just after release

[@Mattyy25]

I see what you mean as in a sense of direction for progression and direction 100%. I just want people to raid for progression over not needing to raid anyone ever and being able to beat the game in less than 24 hours.

[@DawidB-05]

@@Mattyy25 I do understand the lack of activity like raiding and roaming, which is crucial for a more full and fun rust experience. The best thing to change would be to increase the cost of necessary/valuable blueprints, tho it wouldn't make people more motivated to raid, as they could just trade

[@Mattyy25]

@@DawidB-05 Yeah I mean the lack of activity is boring for bigger groups and solos. Sure dominating is fun on wipe day but then they are just roaming the next day where its way more dead and taking loot that they don't need. And that feels bad.

[@CooJoe05]

The Problem with RUST is (The RACE to raid people no matter what type of server you play in is so BROKEN) People think RUST is nothing but PVP and they live in a shack but this isnt CSGO..This is a Monthly or weekly play time NOT a 5 min game so If FACEPUNCH was SMART..........The way to fix RUST is this....of course this only counts on official servers and/or modded servers that run a Monthly wipe...Week 1 should be straight up PVE (no PVP whatsoever) giving the player a chance to do EVERYTHING they can to learn BP's , Build and set up defenses so after Wk 1 is over...Eevrybody on the server should be equal which would balance the game better and make this great game MUCH MORE FUN to play. Imagine playign a game of RUST for a week and not have to worry..DAMN , I got raided on Day 1

[@Mattyy25]

I just think they should remove the tech tree and not have 300 people spawn across 500 feet

[@cryptic1362]

thats incredibly slow paced and not sustainable at all

[@Mattyy25]

@@cryptic1362 I agree

[@Blank-dv9zp]

Brother rust is cooked there is no saving it. The developers only care about money now. The developers will fix one thing and fuck up three more. To this day, I don't understand how the developers managed to ruin the game so badly. I have 8k hours in rust and quit it right after the current aimcone gunplay system and Im glad I did. The things I would do to go back and play 2017-2020 rust.

[@Mattyy25]

I kind of agree and disagree, Like I think the game is still ok for new players and it could still have its moments but you got to work for them. I agree with the amount of money they are making they have been minimizing development for years. I don't know about the gunplay if its better or worse to be honest but I could see a more difficult spray pattern that requires practice being better.