Amazing -someone finally acknowledges the groundbreaking and innovative Moody Blues !!!!
@mrmullah67819 ай бұрын
Yes finally an aknowledgment of this great but oh so underrated band.
@nigelmarshall58917 ай бұрын
Yes, but listening to The Moody Blues in 2024 makes them sound very thin and dated.
@eximusic6 ай бұрын
It's been said for years ever since the prog label was invented.
@robertl65919 ай бұрын
I think Yes and Genesis could both be considered the quintessential Prog bands. Close To The Edge and Supper's Ready are arguably the greatest Prog compositions.
@paulbrookes41310 ай бұрын
Days of Future Passed gave Classical music an enormous push in being a major influence on the genre !
@zootallures647010 ай бұрын
Duch band Ekseption's First did the same.
@thomassanchez-oo6sb10 ай бұрын
Emerson Lake and Palmer?????
@djmikio10 ай бұрын
The Soft Machine, In the Court of the Crimson King, The Crazy World of Arthur Brown, Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed, Frank Zappa - Freak Out!, The Nice - The Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack, Gong - Magick Brother, Procol Harum, Caravan
@Steffne274310 ай бұрын
"Piper" is not a prog rock album. It is a typical 60s psychedelic album.
@djmikio10 ай бұрын
I agree, but the list was albums that "made" prog rock and I'd argue that the whole Canterbury scene depended on this pschedelic influence. Soft Machine were Syd's solo backup band. @@Steffne2743
@doscwolny22219 ай бұрын
Piper is a progressive album. The term prog was certainly applied to genesis,yes,KC etc later on. But that doesn't mean piper wasn't progressive.@@Steffne2743
@cahoots2899 ай бұрын
Piper yes and also Stones Satanic Majesties or is that psychedelic?
@bukharagunboat84668 ай бұрын
It's unfortunate that the Wilde Flowers didn't release an album; that would have avoided having three Canterbury bands on your list. I think we have to pick The Soft Machine as the prototypical Canterbury album; Gong and Caravan came along a little later.
@Raelspark9 ай бұрын
I would say the prog rock starts in 1967 with four important albums ----- Days of Future Passed; Piper at the Gates of Dawn; Sgt. Pepper; the first Doors album.
@toddjohnson2714 ай бұрын
100%......Abbey Road medley
@murkredi10 ай бұрын
AT last. Someone else who understands the importance of Zappa.
@robertl65919 ай бұрын
I love a lot of Zappa's work but much of it is so avant-garde and experimental I just cannot enjoy it like the melodic symphonic prog of English bands like Genesis and Yes. Undoubtedly a musical genius but not easy to warm to.
@murkredi9 ай бұрын
@@robertl6591I'm the opposite - I can listen to Zappa for hours an end, the never-ending complexity keeping it fresh and new. One album in particular, Apostrophe, I must have played 1000 times since I bought it in 1974. But Yes and Genesis? Sheesh man, they sounded old fashioned and turgid to me, even when they were first released - the passage of time has not improved my appreciation. But music means different things to different people. It's a good job we're not all the same.
@derfzus10409 ай бұрын
Who could imagine??:-) Spot on!!
@bakeone440610 ай бұрын
The first Cream album came out in 66. Most prog heads (myself included) don't generally put Cream under a prog umbrella, but if you actually listen to what they're doing on that record, it's undeniably forging something new in a rock context, (and it still doesn't sound like a nearly 60 year old record). The next year (1967) quite a few albums by other artists helped break things open, but if chronology counts, Cream can't be overlooked.
@BrennanYoung10 ай бұрын
in many ways the albums which laid the groundwork of what became prog, but which aren't "really" prog (e.g. Cream, The Nice, The Pretty Things, or Procol Harum) are more genuinely progressive (in the sense of risk-taking and innovation) than many of the unambiguously "prog" genre albums released after 1973.
@Hartlor_Tayley10 ай бұрын
@@BrennanYoung She Loves You by the Beatles was progressive but no one called it that. The term progressive was used to label certain kinds of modern jazz and was never used to describe rock until the seventies as far as I know.
@jbafromny10 ай бұрын
And if you throw in Disraeli Gears and the studio half if Wheels of Fire I think the case for calling Cream a proto-prog band is even stronger. I mean if it’s got cello, it’s gotta be prog, right?
@snowfiresunwind9 ай бұрын
@@BrennanYoung Good comment.
@snowfiresunwind9 ай бұрын
@@Hartlor_Tayley I would put the term Progressive being used for Pop/Rock bands at mid 1967. After The Beatles released Sgt Peppers almost all the popular bands of time were releasing LPs that began to be described as music that was 'Progressive'. I remember hearing that term being used a lot on BBCs Top Gear radio show (John Peel/Pete Drummond) - all of a sudden it was becoming the buzz word of the day.
@1000buffalos9 ай бұрын
Yes. That's a band worth a whole video.
@darrellengelhardt956710 ай бұрын
I agree that Stand Up is an incredible album.
@jeromedupont521810 ай бұрын
this is my fav tull album and as JT is definitely my cult band it tells alot
@nyrocks55805 ай бұрын
One of the best albums ever, especially when you count bonus tracks. Incredible.
@timbrown29719 ай бұрын
Yes basically took the beginnings of the genre and exploded it with The Yes Album, Fragile, and Close to the Edge. Just a phenomenal time in music.
@RoyEberitzsch9 ай бұрын
Yes is progressive rock period!!
@gurgisjones11209 ай бұрын
Definitely had to make sure Days of Future Passed was included. Yep, check. Would probably put in early Genesis over "Stand Up", even though I love that album.
@johnnyfrederick019 ай бұрын
As the #1 Zappa and the Mothers fan my heart sang when you picked Freak Out as your first choice. This album and their 2nd Absolutely Free are unparalleled in their musical innovation and genre-bending freakiness !! Thanks !
@earlrishell53610 ай бұрын
Finally someone added the Moody Blues to the list of the beginning of Prog. Made quite shortly after SGT Pepper. I feel Moodies were very important. I find your comments about Zappa extremely interesting, the rest of the albums all make sense.
@godbluffvdgg10 ай бұрын
The Moodies transcend prog...The beautiful melodies and profound lyrics and musicianship, give them a outside the box genre...Listened to Threshold of a Dream this morning...Their best album only slightly ahead of Days of Future Past. IMHO
@deirdre10810 ай бұрын
Yes, I liked the mention of the Moody Blues too. I was thinking more in terms of "In Search of the Lost Chord" which remains one of favorite albums, Prog, or No-Prog.
@paulbrookes41310 ай бұрын
Seventh Sojourn - Great album with a Great title !!
@RockyDave10 ай бұрын
My favourite album of all time: Seventh Sojourn, closely followed by Children's Children. Then the rest of the 'core seven' Moodies albums.
@roncohp10 ай бұрын
Pawn Hearts is a great choice! Man Erg is the cut in which a man plays 2 saxes at the same time! Talk about pushing the boundaries!
@unstrung6510 ай бұрын
To not put early Genesis on this list ( with Peter Gabriel ) , Nursery Crime . Foxtrot , and Selling England by the Pound -------- is pure sacrilege ! , I'm 76 and I lived through that ERA . Did you ?
@Polyphemus479 ай бұрын
Yep. And they still lift me right off the planet.
@uckbee9 ай бұрын
Agreed. I think of Gabriel/Hackett era Genesis as the epitome of progressive rock, and the fact that you neglected to mention this phenomenally brilliant band begs for an explanation from you.
@mirroryourmusic9 ай бұрын
Yes, I was expecting him to include Trespass (1970). It certainly wasn't the best Genesis album, but it set the basic template for the progression from Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, and Selling England to Lamb Lies Down. Also released a year before The Yes Album and Pawn Hearts. I would have included it instead of the Van der Graaf album. I would have also been tempted to include Tubular Bells or a Gentle Giant album.
@Polyphemus479 ай бұрын
@@mirroryourmusic Gentle Giant! Yes!
@EclecticInstinct8 ай бұрын
Chill mate. I am 70 and I lived through this ERA but so what? Music analysis, critical thinking and proffering an informed opinion will always be valid regardless of any contemporary "advantage", real or imagined. There is no monopoly on opinion. I would concede that Foxtrot could be added to the list, for the lyrics, musical transitions, time signature changes and arrangement on Supper's Ready alone. Remember the list is on the creation of the genre and not the BEST or even favourite albums. Prog in the late 60s and 70s was a very broad church. I knew what I liked but didn't analyse beyond that. My journey started with Meddle, Argus, and In The Land Of Grey and Pink. I have seen Wishbone Ash, Caravan,Yes and Genesis live. I didn't know or care who influenced them at that time. I found this breakdown fascinating and apart from Soft Machine, have all the other LPs listed. Peace.
@gwangi6410 ай бұрын
Great to see The Nice getting mentioned, they were hugely imporant in the development of Prog Rock and inspired people like Yes and Genesis.
@marguskiis771110 ай бұрын
The Nice invented the prog rock. Simple.
@BrennanYoung10 ай бұрын
ironically, The Nice (highly successful in their day) routinely get overlooked because ELP were simply *that much more* successful. IMO if ELP had been less of a hit, The Nice would enjoy far more respect. Or as Alan Partridge might say "Wings! Wings are the band The Beatles could have been"
@Hartlor_Tayley10 ай бұрын
@@BrennanYoung Andy Partridge. Wishing Andy would interview Andy. They have very compatible personalities and senses of humor.
@thatwilldonicely131410 ай бұрын
They must have been listening to 'Ars longa via brevis' and thought '' BLIMEY'' that's it guys'
@gwangi649 ай бұрын
@@thatwilldonicely1314 If there's one album that desperately needs remastering it's Ars Longa Vita Brevis. There's some great music on it but it sounds like the band are playing in a room down the corridor from the recording studio.
@EchoesDaBear10 ай бұрын
Great list Andy!! I'm in general agreement with all your picks! Love the mention of Days Of Future Passed - still one of my most often, make me feel good no matter what, listens (including having Nights as my wedding song!) I love how the orchestra was integrated (regardless of whether they played together or not). It paved the way for future 'symphonic' rock that I now greatly enjoy, being a big fan of classical! Crimson, Floyd, Beatles, Yes are all constants in my collection. Interesting take on Hendrix - his sonic experimentation certainly does fit the vibe of progressive! As a Canadian and HUGE Rush fan, I completely understood and appreciated all their influences! Cheers.
@davidwylde842610 ай бұрын
Arguably, ( with regard the pastoral , English Aesthetic), ‘Trespass’ should have been in,I think. But at 71, I think ‘Nursery Cryme’, definitely deserves its place. They may have been the new kids relative to K.C, ELP, Tull and Yes, but I think their refinement of all the individual elements of what make progressive rock what it came to be seen as, is at its most evident on that album.
@paulbrookes41310 ай бұрын
Hogweed has it all !! - Definitely the Pinnacle of Prog !! 😁
@ImprobableTodd10 ай бұрын
And Genesis took that “English aesthetic” to the max with songs like Harold the Barrel and Fountain of Samalsis. Add on Musical Box and the way it was performed live, it was a quantum leap for prog.
@maartenvaneerten438810 ай бұрын
Thank you Andy for your list - a true nostalgia trip for me. These were the albums we listened to as they came out, each one of them opening new doors of creativity as they pushed the frontiers of music further into the unknown. It was such an exciting time to hear musical styles that had never been heard before!
@zelly816310 ай бұрын
"The Least we can do is wave to each Other" by Van Der Graaf Generator is the true birth of the Apocalyptic vision of prog. "The Least we can do is wave to each Other" was released in February 1970 a year and a half before "Pawn Hearts" - six months before "Trespass" by Genesis - and only three months after "Court of the "Crimson King."
@Hartlor_Tayley10 ай бұрын
That album is also right up there with pawn hearts
@neilparnell57129 ай бұрын
VdGG were true ''Pioneers''
@Hartlor_Tayley9 ай бұрын
@@neilparnell5712 very influential especially in Italy. Or so I’ve read
@neilparnell57129 ай бұрын
You read well sir.@@Hartlor_Tayley
@Hartlor_Tayley9 ай бұрын
@@neilparnell5712 thanks
@Tusitala196710 ай бұрын
It's very relaxing to listen to someone else rave about these records for a change. 🙂
@sdb675710 ай бұрын
King Crimson would not have gained notoriety without the amazing voice of Greg Lake.
@haga251910 ай бұрын
Indeed. They were also very much inspired by The Moody Blues. So much so that they enrolled their producer Tony Clarke to help out with In the court. It didn't work out though so Lake took over production duties. Crimso also bought the Moodies mellotron.
@prestonbacchus420410 ай бұрын
Yes indeed, Loved Greg's voice.^
@n.g.a.e.g.45349 ай бұрын
Bit of a hazard statement, definetly Greg Lake has a little weight in K Krimson all around history. Great vocalist, didnt write much, didnt invent any sound he joined an alredy formed project left and replaced by great singers. He left an imprinting for sure
@janschep47389 ай бұрын
Thanks for this very interesting video and especially for putting Zappa, Moody Blues and King Crimson on the prog spot.
@garyh.23810 ай бұрын
Well explained list. I now have a far better grasp of the many, varied cultural and musical elements which contributed to the formation of the prog genre.
@AntarblueGarneau10 ай бұрын
For those of us musicians on the SF peninsula "ELECTRIC LADYLAND" when it came out was also happily reactionary. The Hammond B3 organ, Jimi's guitar being played clean like BuddY Guy. No more psychedelic, It brought elements of blues and jazz...black music. We applauded it because we had begun to play these musics ourselves. We thought Jimi was gonna lead the way toward a cosmic chitlin circuit.
@clsclearlightsound559410 ай бұрын
One band that was always breaking boundaries was The Yardbirds. Heart Full of Soul, I'm a Man, Shapes of Things, Happenings Ten Years Time Ago. Even Hendrix borrowed from The Yardbirds. And afterwards the first Renaissance album, with Relf and McCarty. I feel they needed to be mentioned.
@johnnyxmusic10 ай бұрын
Yesterday that I thought about this the other day, when another channel someone was saying how the Beatles didn’t care for Led Zeppelin, and the stones in careful Led Zeppelin when I came out… Just like they couldn’t understand the sonic onslaught that they represented. But then I thought you know, there was a lot of crazy and hard and interesting stuff with the Yardbirds and Led Zeppelin can be seen as an extension of that and I’m not gonna mention the fact that Pete Townshend doesn’t like Led Zeppelin.
@marguskiis771110 ай бұрын
Jeff Beck was a genius there
@1000_Jeezai10 ай бұрын
Little Games
@stevecowder477410 ай бұрын
Imo, “ Days “ from the Moodys is the closest to being a complete progressive album, among all of the early influence albums. Those timely and well executed inserts from the London Symphony Orchestra were such a bold, brilliant and original approach. Only during the amazing year of 1967 could such an album be released.
@sidoughty42810 ай бұрын
Excellent list, great to hear the wonderful and influential Moody Blues and the Nice included, a fair spread 💙!
@robertgough580410 ай бұрын
Time and a Word is amazeballs esp astral traveller
@n.g.a.e.g.45349 ай бұрын
I agree
@deirdre10810 ай бұрын
As a longtime Prog fan and an American I'd never considered that my country had anything but the most minimal contributions to the genre. It seemed to me that what Prog artists were doing was stripping Rock of its origins in the Blues and creating a genre based more on European art (classical) music forms and particularly 20th century art music. Thus the advent of so many classically trained Prog musicians, especially keyboardists. Of course no genre of music remains "pure" (or probably even begins pure) and Prog did derive elements from various other types of music but I think the separation from the Blues was a critical component. Thank you for your analysis! This is the first, and only of your videos I have seen and I've enjoyed it greatly. The algorithm found me! I may give Freak Out a new listen. And please let me know where I might be wrong in my comment.
@philbarker821910 ай бұрын
I reckon it probably started in the US with the Electric Prunes. Zappa needs to be in there, but I reckon Hot Rats is the step change. Buffalo Springfield were definitely in there too.
@Polyphemus479 ай бұрын
Good calls!@@philbarker8219
@Throgmoyd10 ай бұрын
I absolutely bloody loved this 'video'. Thank you!
@AndyEdwardsDrummer10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@adamhimelfarb71499 ай бұрын
that was highly enjoyable, whether i could quibble with a few choices or not. your explanations for each selection are well thought out and support the choices. keep up the good (prog) work!
@Bobbagee10 ай бұрын
Great list. I bit surprized there was no mention of the influence of The Left Banke for Walk Away Renee and Pretty Ballerina. Also, prog rock might not have been possible or at lease nearly as prolific without the invention of the Chamberlin/Melotron and portable synthesizers, particularly the Mini Moog.
@Polyphemus479 ай бұрын
"I Haven't Got the Nerve" made a fanatic of me.
@jennd89359 ай бұрын
I was very happy to see the Moody Blues included in the list, but a bit disappointed that Renaissance not mentioned
@klik6410 ай бұрын
Never thought of myself as a Prog fan because I didn't get on with ELP, Genesis and Yes when I was a teen, but I loved early Jethro Tull, Hendrix, King Crimson, Moody Blues as well as Can so maybe I do have a foot in the Prog camp after all. I wondered if Love Forever Changes would be on the list but maybe it's Psychedelia not Prog... not sure.. it blew my mind anyway, love it.
@1000_Jeezai10 ай бұрын
There's plenty of prog origins in the 50s & early 60s too. The esoteric exotica stuff like Ferrante & Teicher, Les Baxter & Dick Hyman. The early electronic music/music concrete. Some of it sounds like industrial space rock & is worth mentioning. 40s & 50s soundtracks and musicals were also ingrained in 60s rock musicians brains contributing to the quirkiness of prog. Bali Hai from south pacific is the same melody as the immigrant song shriek. Classical brought the pomp & jazz brought the expansion
@matto97349 ай бұрын
Just stumbled across your channel and man is it packed with truth and knowledge! I´m 64 and I got "schooled" by classic music (mom), Beatles (father) and Jazz (stepfather) whilst not even have reached the age of 10. So I got the best fundament to explore the likes of those you have mentioned later on. Great times and there are really good things happening now in the field today too like Snarky puppy, Dirty Loops, Matto Mancuso and so on. Good to know that inspiration, open minds and deep knowledge of the crafts still exist ;-) Subed
@ziggy1079 ай бұрын
still think that In The Court of the Crimson King, the song, was the pinacle of rock and roll (if that is really what it could be referred to as). with lots of epic competition for that title, of course
@mintzmia10 ай бұрын
I’m among those who like progressive rock and have only scratched the surface. I have to say, Andy, after watching many of your videos you shine discussing this topic. Your expertise is evident. What blows me away, as someone born in 1985, is how rapidly this blossoming of music happened from around the mid-60s to the early 70s, which you cover here so succinctly (not your usual style, and I am pro-waffling). The radical expansion of consciousness during that time period for much of the general public and reflected in the music was tectonic. And I think that’s why generations that have come since have kept going back to it (pockets of them, at least).
@Hartlor_Tayley10 ай бұрын
1965 to 1975. Definitely the sweet spot for almost everything.
@SB-kr1dw10 ай бұрын
Congrats on 20k subscribers, Andy! Quite an accomplishment!
@attichatchsound-bobkowal532810 ай бұрын
Need to guess first -Freakout. Days of Future Past. n.Sgt. Peppers, Disreali Gears. Electric Ladyland. , Bitches Brew. Inner Mounting Flame, Court of the Crimson King, Yes, Nursery Crime, Emerson Lake & Palmer. POST VIEWING EDIT: Matched 6 out of 10. Given I'm a Yank; Nice, Early Tull, Early Floyd and Vandergraf. went mostly unnoticed stateside.
@robertspindler56527 ай бұрын
An album that was massive and clearly influenced many in the prog scene, especially drummers, yet never gets any accolades is the self titled album by Blood, Sweat ,and Tears from 1968.
@arnaudb.766910 ай бұрын
I will add Magma "Kobaia" (70) The album that create his own subgenre of prog (zeuhl)
@jeffmumford198210 ай бұрын
I have to add a couple more important albums which always seem to be overlooked in the prog genre: Atomic Rooster Death Walks Behind You and Nektar A Tab In The Ocean. If you don't know them, give them a go!
@paulkazakoff923110 ай бұрын
Death walks is an absolute classic ! Blew me away the first time I heard it.If you haven't heard it definitely give it a listen !
@maddog86219 ай бұрын
AR were superb
@billyhodges71949 ай бұрын
All your videos are informative, funny , intelligent and with such love of the subject that i cannot be anything but impressed.... And its good to hear a west midlands accent espousing mind nuggets 👍
@SteelyDug19 ай бұрын
IMHO you missed a biggie that was released in 1970. Emerson, Lake & Palmer's debut album. Keith Emerson met Charles Moog and the rest is history!
@billyhodges71949 ай бұрын
My entry into prog as a 7 yo child through older siblings was pictures at an exhibition and I still love it as a 50 + guy
@MrCherryJuice10 ай бұрын
I contend that Vanilla Fudge's self-title debut album of 1967 provided the template for what became the prog rock aesthetic (great drummer, killer bassist, predominent keyboards, soaring vocals, jazz-y and classical-ly leanings...). Though never big in the UK, the band's London gigs apparently had a profound effect not only on the approach to music, but also the volume (they were using Crown power amps). Deep Purple's frequently stated ambition was to be the 'European Vanilla Fudge', though they were short on proficiency at the time and soon discovered rock was a better meal ticket (something the Fudge realised too late in their career). And though they never made it out of the clubs, the band 1-2-3 (later renamed Clouds), a trio - keys, bass, drums - from Edinburgh with a residency at the Marquee, were also apparently a favourite with Ian Anderson (a fellow Scot), Jon Anderson (who worked at the Marquee), Keith Emerson and others. Even Robert Fripp apparently checked them out. It may be coincidence, but after forming Yes, Anderson had that band cover Simon & Garfunkel's 'America', a tune 1-2-3 were playing at the Marquee. The Beatles 'Revolver' and the 'Penny Lane'/'Strawberry Fields' single were real surprise twists. As was the Beach Boys 'Good Vibrations', a record that took on cinematic proportions. One could argue they were the first (popular) progressive records (Zappa's 'Freak Out' was extremely obscure by comparison). Though I believe Vanilla Fudge played a key role in defining the prog genre, they were best known for a great heavy-handed version of the Supremes 'You Keep Me Hanging On'), so they were oft seen within that context. It really wasn't until King Crimson that the public caught on to the prog concept...which wasn't even defined at the time. Early Yes were essentially a pop band with ambitious musical leanings. The Nice were a jazzy-classical fusion quartet (and then trio) that lacked a sufficiently focused concept and thus were meandering into oblivion (ditto Yes pre-Steve Howe). Numerous other arty bands were art for art's sake and much too arty for their own good. It is worth noting that the late Peter Banks was guitarist in both the Nice and Yes in their early stages. One can only wonder how much of a role he played in pushing both bands beyond their comfort zones.
@kenlyon828510 ай бұрын
Andy's "English aesthetic" derives from British traditional & folk. In N. America the influences were American folk/country traditions & beat sensibilities which, with the injection of CIA sponsored experiments & Ken Kesey, begat psychedelic/acid rock. Prog rock co-opted & merged psychedelia with the addition of classical & world elements
@marguskiis771110 ай бұрын
The Nice invented the prog.
@craigburner129610 ай бұрын
Great analysis. This is the first time I've seen you. I subscribed due to your great work.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer10 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@arijokimaki431510 ай бұрын
I wonder if The Yardbirds' Roger the Engineer (1966) had any influence to the creation of the prog rock genre.
@arijokimaki431510 ай бұрын
Also, even earlier, Graham Bond Organization might have been very important for this subject.
@williamblake10 ай бұрын
Also Stravinsky’s The Rite of Spring and Holst’s The Planets. Great albums :0)
@Bubba-zu6yr10 ай бұрын
I blame it on the Firebird.😅✌️
@geoffccrow233310 ай бұрын
Ravel bolero
@Polyphemus479 ай бұрын
In the heat of my Genesis and Yes fanaticism, I listened to "The Rite of Spring" at LEAST once a day, for well over a year. It's my absolute favorite piece of music, and seeing Joffrey Ballet perform it live was a transcendent experience for me. Stravinsky changed EVERYthing.
@Polyphemus479 ай бұрын
PS - LOVE The Planets, and gotta mention Ravel's "Daphnis et Chloe".
@johnnyxmusic10 ай бұрын
I was just wondering about this today. I was watching a video about ELO… I thought you know there was a certain point where one of the forks of rock went in the direction of super production… Of course, you could say that started with Phil Spector… In his wall of sound… And then, of course we got pet sounds… And Sergeant peppers… And those were going in that direction of psychedelia, expanding it, not so much through alternate scales and modes, but rather through greatly enhanced production values. So I called it Pop-gressive. So this is my comment before watching the video and I’m really looking forward to it because I’d like to know where Prog rock came from and I’m certain that the origins are much deeper and more obscure than I know
@Hartlor_Tayley10 ай бұрын
Prog is really an English art form, you Brit’s have every reason to be proud of it and own it. Sure some American influences but really there was nothing like that it over here in the States. When I first heard “Roundabout” on the radio, I thought it must be the Jefferson Airplane. We had acid rock galore and all kinds of fusions but nothing like Prog. Great list. Thanks
@experience598810 ай бұрын
Funny they were "very English" but still sold tons of records in the USA.
@Bitterblogger10 ай бұрын
Like the Beatles? 😄
@Bitterblogger10 ай бұрын
Like the Beatles? 😄
@Bitterblogger10 ай бұрын
Like the Beatles? 😄
@Bitterblogger10 ай бұрын
Like the Beatles? 😄
@manitheman080610 ай бұрын
what about the first 2 Renaissance albums
@kd2mill10 ай бұрын
Man, don't ever apologize for "taking too long". Just keep the vids coming.
@jbafromny10 ай бұрын
Though I’m sure they’d recoil at the association, I think the Who belong on the list. The Who Sell Out checks an awful lot of prog Boxes, and it’s from 67.
@1000_Jeezai10 ай бұрын
Rael
@okimtulal923510 ай бұрын
Gentle Giant's debut album, as well as everything they recorded until 1975. I think that in Great Britain and after King Crimson, they were the most peculiar, pluralistic and multi-complex band. What Gentle Giant produces is so radical and innovative that it is difficult for anyone to stand next to them. Secondarily on the other side of the Atlantic, the extraterrestrial Captain Beefheart with Safe as Milk, Strictly Personal, as well as the landmark Trout Mask Replica. Albums that promptly broke every code and stereotype.
@dusanpogacar13999 ай бұрын
What do you say about Erik Burdon New animals Wind of change? And Velvet underground first album? Their satanic magic requests of Stones? All in 1967. But my friend all your top 10 are amazing albums.
@AlmostEthical10 ай бұрын
Looking back, your list makes sense to me. Soft Machine were perhaps the start of the Canterbury scene, which I think of as a mix of fusion, prog, folk and psychedelic rock, dripping with the English aesthetic.
@jattotling34752 ай бұрын
Thanks Andy, really very good!
@loud707010 ай бұрын
Thank you Andy. I truly appreciate your effort and so enjoyed this podcast.
@brianparsa779410 ай бұрын
Interesting that you give a nod to Jethro Tull for introducing some of the pastoral sounds to prog; can it be argued that Fairport Convention might've influenced Ian Anderson and the lads to include that music . . . and that, since Fairport were hugely influenced by Bob Dylan as well, maybe Bob Dylan belongs on this list? (stunned gasp from the crowd . . .)
@wm.scottpappert986910 ай бұрын
choice list Andy. Might have found a place for Genesis though ... Trespass ('70), Foxtrot ('72) or Nursery Cryme ('71). Although influential, is Days of Future Passed too ethereal to be considered prog in this group ? Floyd of course has it's mass ethereal moments post Barrett but sticks with the themes of prog. But agree that '71-'72 may be late to the game to be considered influential in shaping prog
@greatsilentwatcher9 ай бұрын
Having grown up through all that, I enjoyed the insight in your commentary. Thanks.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@davidwylde842610 ай бұрын
Brilliant video, and virtually nothing to argue with,( apart from the tiny bits I have in the comments, which in themselves are arguably subsumable within subjective differences).
@oolongoolong78910 ай бұрын
A pretty solid list, Andy. Though I would have included The Velvet Underground & Nico (recorded in 1966) which has a level of angular artistry and dark themes that would influence prog, punk and post-punk bands. The first LP by Colosseum, Those Who Are About to Die Salute You (recorded 1968) also has the eclectic influences that we associate with prog rock and some very fine musicianship. Curved Air's debut Air Conditioning (recorded 1970) is worth a mention. And one my favourites of this era is the weird and wonderful Alchemy (released 1969) by Third Ear Band.
@johnminassian48879 ай бұрын
Very nice summary Andy. I experienced all of this music in real time, except I was stateside. I have all those albums and they are in semi-regular rotation. We must have similar taste in music as Tull's Benefit is my fave by them too. I clearly remember being in Kresge's Five and Dime in the sixties and holding the Freak Out album and wondering, "what is this?" Trouble Comin' Every Day is still a favorite track. More please.
@clouddog23939 ай бұрын
Soft Machine's first and second albums and the Nice's debut album "The thoughts of EmerList DaveJack" . Van der Graaf Generators debut was ahead of it's time too .
@ryanbaptiste24910 ай бұрын
I nearly fell off me chair when you mentioned VdGG's Pawn Hearts! 😱 …Definitely my type of darkness.
@ImprobableTodd10 ай бұрын
Pawn Hearts started a new limb on the prog tree, pushing through with sharp-edged bombast, vocals and lyrics lush with the power of acid unchained. Ending Plague with a Robert Fripp solo also put another flavor of pure angst into our ears.
@NelsonMontana123410 ай бұрын
Yes, people overlook how Pepper set the stage for the whole prog movement and how Stand Up was such an innovative record. I'd leave off a couple you mentioned and add the first Zeppelin, first Gentle Giant and first ELP , which were all around the same time.
@daledavidson82427 ай бұрын
You can nearly equate the eruption of formal prog with the Mellotron.
@hjs9td9 ай бұрын
You must include Pink Floyd's Saucer Full of Secrets (1968) as a symphonic composition if you name The Yes Album as an example.
@alanFconrad10 ай бұрын
great commentary....Thanks
@reinhardtherbert512910 ай бұрын
Great choice man! I saw an Interview with Robert fripp who was very proud that jimmy Hendrix who was in the audience of a King crimson Concert was fully blown away by their music and told his girlfriend in amazement:"this is the best Band in the World!" - PS: I LOVE THE MAHAVISHNU TOO!
@BrennanYoung10 ай бұрын
Just wait. AI technology will soon give us a speculative "Hendrix, Emerson, Lake and Palmer " album.
@Hartlor_Tayley10 ай бұрын
@@BrennanYoung be still my heart.
@peterhendriks47369 ай бұрын
Great analyses, spot on.
@SCUIRPB9 ай бұрын
Glad you put The Piper at the Gates of Dawn on the list :-) I only discovered it in the seventies when I was a teenager but I immediately recognized it to be far beyond anything I'd heard before (or even after :-D ). Despite my very humble set of records I remember some of the entries in the list but not all. Thanks for this reminder about progressive rock music. And greetings from the other side of Europe. In the 60's, 70's and 80's we were stuck behind that curtain and soaking up everything of pop/rock/jazz etc. music that came from the West somehow.
@jornspirit10 ай бұрын
Andy, you are bold, competent and funny... I understand where you come from with your choices, and I pull my hat in respect for how much stuff you have listened to... certainly more than me, and I've listened to a bl**dy lot! The whole concept of electing the 10 most important albums/bands/songs/breakfast cereals etc in itself is so hilariously impossible, that you get probably quartered and be-headed many times in the comments, but that's what gets the pinball rollin', and kicks off some well-spent nights of nitty-gritty arguing about the hen-and-the-egg business... and when the dust has settled, we all go back to realize, that all we needed... is love 💖😎
@northcarolinavinylpicker10 ай бұрын
Great job with first 10 prog albums. I did one similar. Some of your 10 were my 10. Take care cheers
@MikeMihlo-lv9iy10 ай бұрын
Nice to see Days Of Future Past , it doesn't make to many lists. The Moodies are a great Prog band.
@martinspencer161810 ай бұрын
They're neither great nor prog: using a Melllotron isn't enough. I regard them as damp rock.
@Justin_Kipper10 ай бұрын
@@martinspencer1618 They used a Mellotron _and_ a flute. As did King Crimson!
@martinspencer161810 ай бұрын
But KC didn't need 2 different people to play Mellotron and flute. And they had a guitarist, drummer and singer/vocalist in a different league to the bland saddoes in The Moody Blues. (Is Graeme Edge the least talented drummer ever to feature in a band claimed to be Prog? He makes Nick Mason look like a percussion genius)@@Justin_Kipper
@donneumann654610 ай бұрын
Man! Who pissed in your corn flakes. People can have different opinions can't they?@martinspencer1618
@paulbrookes41310 ай бұрын
@@martinspencer1618I regard you as a fool 😂
@Williamottelucas6 ай бұрын
I used to own almost all of those 10 albums (bought t 50c $1 $2 for the most part - scratched, naturally) and it's great to hear from you how they all connect (and why I loved them).
@boriskruger484210 ай бұрын
I'm into Pink Floyd for decades. I KNOW for fact that FREAK OUT influenced Pink Floyd. The Album was a fave of Syd Barrett. Frank Zappa and Roger Waters were friends.
@davefink232610 ай бұрын
You can see Frank jam with the Floyd at some Europe concert (in 1970, I think).
@boriskruger484210 ай бұрын
@@davefink2326 I forgot to mention the Amougies (Belgium)- Festival, wich was organized by Frank, he was the organizer, not a performer on that Festival. Roger Waters convinced him to jam with the Floyd on Interstellar Overdrive. This is the Performance you're talking about; Amougies, Belgium, October 25th, 1969. Zappa wanted to Release the recording, but Roger Waters didn't want it to be released. Interstellar Overdrive was almost released as a part of Ummagumma (different Performance w/o Frank Zappa).
@BrennanYoung10 ай бұрын
@@boriskruger4842 to be fair, it's far from the best rendition of Interstellar Overdrive. Rog seems to be enjoying himself, but the others (including Frank) seem a little dissociated.
@henryurbach797310 ай бұрын
Pink Floyd is not exactly a prog rock band, except maybe for Wish You Were Here. Until then they were more psychedelic jam band.
@1099Kramo8 ай бұрын
“Shine On Brightly”- Procol Harum
@drytool10 ай бұрын
I saw Yes live with a full orchestra on their Magnification tour.
@jimschroeder117610 ай бұрын
Me too.
@jimsalman725710 ай бұрын
I will have to disagree with you about Hendrix not being a great singer. I think he absolutely was a great singer, with a beautiful R&B inflected voice. I know Hendrix was somewhat insecure about his singing ability, and he sure doesn’t sound “trained”, but some of his studio recordings, especially the ballads, are amazing vocal performances.
@davidwylde842610 ай бұрын
I would imagine Andy was alluding to the fact that the legendary component of Hendrix and his talent could not be levelled at the notion that he was a technically brilliant vocalist with virtuoso technique, and more that he was a virtuoso ‘artist’ in that his output was artistically brilliant in all it’s many aspects.
@edwardyazinski385810 ай бұрын
Quite agree, esp say Watchtower and Little Wing, but VC Slight Return too which he does endow with a certain amount of fury via not just the guitar but with his vocals too
@jimmycampbell7810 ай бұрын
Hendrix was a good singer. But he was a great guitarist and an innovative musician.
@DPhasely10 ай бұрын
I enjoyed Hendrix' voice, and he could carry a tune. Of course, his voice was not at the level of, say Tom Jones, but Hendrix really sounded great on the song Electric Ladyland. The vocals on that song sounded like something from The Tempations, or one of those other black vocal groups.
@jimmycampbell7810 ай бұрын
Certainly in the studio Hendrix' vocals are excellent. Live, he has some very patchy vocal performances but he's playing guitar at the same time (and was often under the influence of various substances). I do recall what another youtuber, Wings of Pegasus, said about singing and playing guitar at the same time, it is always "double the difficulty". However, certainly in the studio and even live, Hendrix could pull off good vocal performance.
@robertglisson631910 ай бұрын
Kudos to you for prominently mentioning The Nice. Most people begin progressive rock with King Crimson. I would have included Tarkus, however, simply for the title track which preceded the other major epics of prog rock. But overall, a fine synopsis!
@МаксРогозин-е1ю10 ай бұрын
Lizard and Atom heart mother .
@rgreed200819 ай бұрын
A brief history of Progressive Rock. The Beach Boys and a few other Rock Bands have lain the recipe by blending the flour, sugar, eggs and other parts of the recipe together. The Beatles decided to bake the cake and forgot about it. The Moody Blues had eaten the cake. They like the cake and freely share the recipe with others.
@flyingjeffsutherland374410 ай бұрын
Loved it!
@stabbrzmcgee8258 ай бұрын
Andy (andy andy for a Zappa reference) I've seen several of your videos now, and while I do not always buy in to your views, they always get me thinking, and that is a good thing. Two side comments: 1) The Yes Album is a work of art, and 2) Benefit is my favorite Tull album by far. I do love Stand Up (still remember my first time opening the album and getting the pop-up of the band, so long ago-album art was integral to the album idea much as you have mentioned elsewhere). Keep doing the good work, it is appreciated.
@jdd378610 ай бұрын
Cool video and great analysis of music in general. I'd like to add to the list the albums: Comus- First Utterance Wishbone Ash- Argus Deep Purple- Self titled
@МаксРогозин-е1ю10 ай бұрын
Yes, April... Many folks tends to forget first lineup. I'm glad you remember Comus. A cult little known band but what a debut they made. Argus great album.
@geoffccrow233310 ай бұрын
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@RodWilliams-m7r10 ай бұрын
Count me in for "Stand Up"
@nyrocks55805 ай бұрын
One of the best albums ever, especially when you count bonus tracks. Incredible.
@bh-zj4yt9 ай бұрын
Had to laugh. I too bought the best of Jethro Tull, I had heard most of those songs. Then went to a used record/head shop in Chula Vista CA and bought Benefit and was blown away. Went back two weeks later and got Stand Up (with the pop up inner sleeve) And to this day Stand Up is my favorite Great Job
@nyrocks55805 ай бұрын
That was pretty much my Tullology, too.
@theechoinggreen617510 ай бұрын
Nice varied list, especially good to see Hendrix get his due for the influence he had on progressive music. But Genesis surely must be here too.
@nodiggity94729 ай бұрын
I'm new here, and despite you being an almost insufferable prog goblin, I love your takes, even on bands I've never heard of. Your understated appreciation for Zappa is commendable, and you're the only person I've seen (other than myself) who sees the melodic similarities between Zappa and Cardiacs. Oh, City or Villa?
@craigward271010 ай бұрын
I'd like to offer The Incredible String Band's The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter: The complex ever-developing structures of Kooeeoaddi There and A Very Cellular Song were massively out there. Also, among the British bands that bands like Yes and Crim were looking to there's Family and Blossom Toes. Let us also not forget Jefferson Airplane.
@RayThackeray10 ай бұрын
Prog rock reached its apogee with the release of Foxtrot by Genesis in September 1972, I believe this single album embodies perfection in the genre.
@davidwylde842610 ай бұрын
As a Genesis fanatic of certain aspects, I’d like to agree with you, but I can’t. Good comment though.
@martinspencer161810 ай бұрын
Terrible production and no synths.
@stevescott20010 ай бұрын
oh! yes
@МаксРогозин-е1ю10 ай бұрын
A monumental album and a mandatory listening. But also Nursery Cryme, Selling England by the Pound, A Trick of the Tail etc. Other bands. An ocean of Music.
@RayThackeray10 ай бұрын
@@МаксРогозин-е1ю Agreed they are all amongst the greatest Progressive Rock albums, but I find that Supper's Ready is the true breakthrough prog anthem, though probably not for the masses.
@MrPonkine9 ай бұрын
Procol Harum 'Shine on Brightly' (1968). It includes 'In Held 'Twas In I'. First ever prog sidelong suite. It definitely paved the way for Pink Floyd 'Echoes', Yes 'Close To The Edge', Genesis 'Supper's Ready', ELP 'Tarkus', Jethro Tull 'Thick as a Brick', Caravan 'Nine Feet Underground', etc.
@sixertogo9 ай бұрын
This is my first experience with your channel and your thoughts and ideas are well thought out and enjoyable.
@ronaldchives248610 ай бұрын
I think the beginning of Prog is A Whiter Shade Of Pale. It is just a perfect record, the ambiguous lyrics, the Bach references in the music, the vocal, the 6 weeks at number 1 in summer 67, it all fans out from there for me, 🙂
@limomangeno10 ай бұрын
I remember seeing Yes,King Crimson and Procol harum in 1971,that was a Great Show.
@rsplines1210 ай бұрын
I love how you refer to non-prog fans as "normal people." LOL
@Oenloveslife10 ай бұрын
"Conceptual Continuity": words you used to describe Freak Out by Zappa, and ALSO words Zappa himself used on "Stinkfoot!": "Once upon a time, somebody say to me, 'What is your, conceptual continuity?'"