The Terrifying Case of Christopher Case | That Chapter Podcast

[@MissVanHelsing]

I'm turning "turdy" this Friday. I just joined Alcoholics Anonymous and I'm excited to have a sober third decade. Just wanted to share. I love Mike's channel and the That Chapter family ☺️

[@steves1112000]

Congratulations. Stick with it. It's worth it.

[@MissVanHelsing]

@steves1112000 thanks so much. It's more than I ever realised, couldn't do it without AA. I'm also in NA after becoming addicted to my prescription pain killers.

[@steves1112000]

@VanHelsing__ hang in there I had a heck of a time with painkillers. No matter how bad it gets. Remember-- tomorrow will get better. Praying for you.

[@MissVanHelsing]

@steves1112000 I really appreciate it, thank you.

[@heidimueller1039]

Best of luck to you! You can do it.

[@libbypeace68]

The only thing I don't like about the podcasts is that I need Mike to tell me he loves me 😢

[@amybe573]

Yessssss!! I'm with you there all the way! When the podcasts end, it feels like completing a jigsaw puzzle only to find the last piece is missing. It's mostly satisfying, but... 🫤🖤😒

[@melissawilliams7238]

I know right! I love his catch phrase outro! Always helps me revert back to real life after listening to some of these stories.

[@agostinodublino1387]

@@melissawilliams7238 he's so sweet. After half an hour of true horror he manages to left us with a warm love feeling. He's magic

[@kurtismoore6700]

I love your main channel more then anything Mike but I’ve honestly really come to love the dynamic between you and Keith, perfect amount of seriousness mixed with wit and banter

[@nbsoboleski]

Yess!! Back in March, when he started el podcast, I commented positively too and applauded the cheeky bro-mance chemistry. Weirdly enough, someone got up in my face, honestly angry, hahaha... this uberfan wanted their That Chapter content kept pure... only Mike. I just told them to calm down, but it was weird.

[@kurtismoore6700]

@@nbsoboleskihaha I’ve seen a couple sad sacks on here complain about that too and even that they banter too much, like cmon that’s the best part!

[@MrSh4des]

That chapter is my favourite thing to fall asleep to at the moment

[@Cindrbell]

Here, here!!!

[@JeffreyBenzodiazepines]

@@Cindrbell *Hear, hear

[@miketobias1821]

I do that sometimes myself. Let's Read is s good one too. 👍👍

[@16voyeur]

That voice!@@miketobias1821

[@chicaloca2071]

Me too

[@tylerdurden3912]

A picture show and a podcast in the same day. You're too good to us. Thank you as always.

[@amimichelle3063]

Where?

[@tylerdurden3912]

@amimichelle3063 I was talking about his first channel. Where you see his face and some pictures.

[@MissSeaSea]

Y’all don’t know how badly I needed your vibes rn. Mikey and Keith to the rescue!! Love y’all

[@cmeyummy]

Sending you hug’s from Australia 🇦🇺 I hope tomorrow is a better day for you.❤

[@JustJezBeingJez]

Aussie here too, I'll chip in another hug

[@tammyculbertson7529]

Sleep paralysis is terrifying. I keep trying to wake myself up over and over in my dream. But my question is for Keith. I remember you guys talking about your house being haunted, is the sleep paralysis connected to that or have you always experienced it?

[@sellmethispen4607]

American here much love

[@Dee.Murphy]

I am late but sending you some 🇨🇦love... while I’m listening in Nashville , TN. ❤

[@suzannenichols6900]

I think it's wonderful how we human beings like to rationalize supernatural things that we really don't understand.

[@loki666100]

I use to get sleep paralysis. Mine was on my front. It felt like someone was pressing me into my mattress. I felt like I could move my head, but I couldn’t see who was there. It was a strange feeling and I hated it. I haven’t had it in a good few years now and I really don’t want to go back to having it again.

[@andreah4172]

Same. Has happened to me 3 times, absolutely terrifying!!

[@einienj3281]

I've suffered from it my whole life, as a kid it was terrifying..I saw vampires and shadow entities and was sure they were real. Now I'm so used to it, that it's like playing a VR horror game or something, not really scary anymore.. the key is to not panic. Stress and lack of sleep/too much sleep are my triggers.

[@fhuuraliulfr5756]

I've had sleep paralysis a few times, never dreamed/hallucinated a person or thing lol just had a feeling of dread and feeling scared that I can't move. Thankfully! Knock on wood haha

[@einienj3281]

@@fhuuraliulfr5756 The scariest part for me is the feeling of someone crawling into bed with me and spooning me when I knew my husband had left to work... That's something I hate the most in SP.. you feel someone sit on the bed, then laying down, rolling over and getting close, hearing them breath and feeling it in your neck, not being able to talk or move and look if my husband came back home for some reason or if some weirdo broke in..

[@fhuuraliulfr5756]

@@einienj3281 Yeah, that's terrifying!!

[@veenoir1991]

Mike and Keith should find an old funny pic of themselves as young lads and recreate it as adults, thatd be a cool keith reveal imo. Since they go way back

[@NastyWoman1979]

Great intro and petroleum for the channel. Old.then new

[@noram4922]

"No means no Bitch!"....Keith..😂😂😂😂😂

[@MissVanHelsing]

Salt is something I used as a kid to make "protection potions" and "spells" that I'd sprinkle across my doorway and under my bed to keep monsters out. I grew up in an abusive household and looking back, I was using my little imagination to do my best to help myself. It's a bit of a downer but it's the memory this story brought up for me. I'd mix it up with stuff from the garden and keep it secret. Edit: a more fun story - My class read The Witches by Roald Dahl in elementary school. I ended up convinced my elderly neighbour was a witch because she had the same tell tale signs as written in the book as a warning to other children. Her teeth had a blueish tinge, she wore a wig because she was bald, and she legitimately had no toes. I called her out one day like a menace because I didn't want her to baby sit me. Found out later she just had the diabeetus. Lol.

[@Proverbs31_25]

thanks for sharing i use salt with iodine in my house too - it helps purify the air as i've read and i pray the Lord's prayer (Matthew 6:9-13) over my house & i say it out loud ! - i've done this for years salt will kill weeds - when sprinkled on top of weeds & mold dies from salt put on it too ! Salt acts as a purifier. taking salt baths too helps purify our skin (the body /thyroid needs iodine salt to function properly as well) ✌🏼 you can read about anything i stated peace 🕊️

[@lauravastag8587]

❤️‍🩹🪄

[@guardmommad5084]

I'm so sorry that you had to protect yourself from real monsters.😢 I hope you're trying therapy to make it less painful. Hugs ❤

[@Callmethebreeze902]

Black salt works best, also white sage.

[@atheistmom3591]

You lads make my world go round.

[@kathrynbillinghurst188]

My eardrums are happy 😅 to hear your voice Mike! The accent is adorable. 😊 Hello to your guest star Keith.🤩✌️🇦🇺

[@steves1112000]

Okay- tasting the drugs... I used to be a police officer. The tasting a small amount of coke would numb the mouth, not necessarily get them high. The quicker the numb, the better the coke. With the advent of field test kits 'tasting' is not a thing anymore. As an undercover officer, you are taught how to fake using. If that's not possible, and you have to use a small amount to establish yourself with dealers, you have to report it immediately, go to counseling , and get periodic drug screens. Sorry for the rant. It was a while ago that I worked in Florida, so, if someone more current knows more, please let me know.

[@lilyt18]

But what if it’s fentanyl? I don’t think you can risk it anymore

[@steves1112000]

@lilyt18 definitely not in my day, coke or heroin was it. Even back the youn didn't 'taste' it. You gloved up and use a test kit. I feel sorry young narcs today.

[@LuckySpinster.]

I have sleep paralysis almost every bluddy night, accompanied by lucid dreams. The sleep paralysis now is literally just being unable to move which is really annoying. I saw 'the old hag' (the presence felt or 'seen' during sleep paralysis has been called this) a long time ago and for some reason she stood in the doorway while I laughed at her, she never came back. Now during an episode I just can't move. Usually I'm trying to turn over and can't. It happens during my lucid dreams that are exhausting. I scream, yell, talk and laugh in my sleep. I even occasionally sleep walk. I've lived alone for a very long time so I don't know for sure how often. Only when I wake up during it do I remember. The dreams, they are frustrating, usually because they are much better than my reality. In them I am safe and loved and yes, I fly. At times though I relive life events, that play out just as they once did in reality. No matter what I do or how hard I try I can't change the outcome. I wake up screaming usually. My last hospital stay, I screamed at the top of my lungs apparently and I was woken by nurses. They were a bit disturbed by it. Maybe it's why I never married or found a partner. I hope when I go, it is during a good lucid dream. Where I can stay for eternity surrounded by peace, love, comfort and free of all pain.

[@TheListOf]

Look up the symptoms of Narcolepsy. If you have these symptoms, you should go see a sleep specialist or neurologist. There is help.

[@sarahissersohn5495]

If you ever aren’t enjoying the dreaming or the sleep paralysis, THC works really well for a lot of people - I used to get reoccurring nightmares every night, until I realized I could smoke a few bits of weed right before sleep, and would wake up fresh & focused, in the AM.

[@MsScrapper04]

Asking God for help got me out both the experience and other experiences. I am sorry you experience that regularly.

[@mrjohnson8343]

Get therapy, bro.

[@TheListOf]

@@mrjohnson8343 What form?

[@MsScrapper04]

I had one sleep paralysis experience. It was the most terrifying thing I’ve ever experienced. I don’t wish it on anyone. The only way I could get out of it was to pray in my head, “God help me” Immediately, I was out. Never had one again. I will never forget it.

[@morgan6590]

Same here. It hasn't happened to me since either.

[@Ooh_PieceOfCandy]

I too only had sleep paralysis one time and it scared the daylights out of me. I sleep with my bedroom door locked. Anyway, I wake up one night laying on my back and I hear my door slowly creak open, which immediately sends me into panic mode because I ALWAYS lock it. I look over and I see the creepiest wide eyed, stringy haired man staring at me with one eye through the crack in my door, grinning like a psychopath. I try SO HARD to scream, to get up, to run and slam my door but I can't move, I just sit there and stare at him while my door starts to open more and more. And then the next thing I know, I've fallen back asleep. I didn't sleep right for a week after that. It felt SO REAL.

[@tanniestienie7833]

I had sleep paralysis once...in a house my mom stayed in. It was my cousin's house, and his wife died from a drug (OTC) overdose . We were all convinced she was haunting the house, so my experience happened there. Absolutely terrifying! I was in my mid 30s, lucky not a small child. I cant imagine how aweful it must be for small kids. I believe you could probably be terrified to death from the experience

[@LindysEpiphany]

I think it would be nice to see both of you guys while your doing the podcast.

[@kathrynbillinghurst188]

Too right! 😁👏🎃

[@JeffreyBenzodiazepines]

Podcasts are supposed to be audio focused

[@LittleKikuyu]

Says who? 😂😂😂 The great god pod, lord of podcasting? Many people who listen here would probably like that and it can help with concentrating on the spoken words. Also, if someone says they wanna see cute Irish faces, that’s totally legit. 🙌 ☘️

[@michhaynes7272]

Ive had it a few times some years back and it's very terrifying! I wasn't married at the time and was alone with my children which I think made it even more scary each time I woke from it, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

[@S33KERofTRUTH]

I feel for u Keith I suffered sleep Paralysis for most my life , but haven't had an episode in about 2yrs but when it happens it frkn terrifying. Great episode boys

[@lornstermonster5500]

I had sleep paralysis once. I was lying on my back, eyes open, looking at the ceiling, but dreaming i was face down drowning in my hot water bottle. It wasn't actually leaking but i felt like it was. I felt like i couldn't breathe but managed to convince my brain to let me wake up. Sounds funny now but I've never forgotten it.

[@ThestuffthatSaralikes]

That Chapter’s Podcast and OG channel has some of the best comment sections. Considering the content of the videos/podcasts, the comments are wonderfully positive and uplifting. Goes to show if you put positive energy energy out into the world- even from a true crime creator!!- ya get positivity back!! Love it.❤

[@trippiechaos]

Sleep paralysis truly is terrifying! I've only experienced it once. I thought I was in a coma! The mental panic is insane

[@JeffreyBenzodiazepines]

Having a really bad time these days but these podcasts, vids make it bearable. Thank you guys! I love the topics you guys cover, please more spooky/paranormal/alien stuff.

[@LittlefoxElle]

Wow this story is wild. He must have been terrified. I think she was really a witch.

[@nbsoboleski]

And witches vary in form, I think. From the broom-flying, spell-casters of yore, to modern day manipulative, narcissistic, evil people who hide behind the "dark arts" to gain a false sense of power, like this woman.... she didn't get what she wanted, but believing she was a witch, she had the persuasive power to make Christopher believe it also. She may know a bit of hypnotism, and power of suggestion... and whether or not she's a real supernatural witch, she may as well be, because of her intent and the end result.

[@LittleKikuyu]

Yeah, orrrr, he had a psychotic break. Simple scientific explanation. Can happen to absolutely anyone. No witchcraft needed. 🙄

[@jessicajames805]

I don't know about the narcissistic one. You may be right.

[@Jaa__17]

@@jessicajames805yeahhh people quick to throw narcissistic in a sentence. To put weight on how evil someone is. Can’t stand it. People don’t call each other bipolar or borderline. It’s annoying for people who really have a mental illness going on.

[@PoisonousVector]

You are my favourite podcast to listen to while doing jigsaw puzzles❤

[@vengefuljuggalo]

The last sleep paralysis moment I had was about a year ago. I woke up and thought I saw my wife standing in the hallway screaming at me to wake up. All I heard was "wake up" but it was very static. I finally jolted off the couch and saw that the shadow I saw was my fan.

[@JessSharp-eyed77]

Mike said it!!!! Absolutely letz give it a goooooo! Thanks Mike and Keith for this stellar podcast! Love you both narrating! God bless you guys and keep up the great work!

[@Leslie12.66]

Love hearing your banter. Great times!

[@desmondfalakei7108]

I once had a nightmare or terror in college after a long night of studying physics. Got home to sleep for a midterm and instantly hit a nightmare where I thought I was being possessed. I started to pray in my dream, Hail Mary full of Grace.. over and over. It started slowly as I was fighting for thoughts with a grumbling voice or something. I kept praying and I started to go faster and faster then boom hit a bright light. I was facing my alarm clock. 13 minutes had passed and I was frozen stiff. I slowly got feeling back & was confused. Was able to get back to sleep by telling the Devil he’s welcome to take the midterm for me. I got an A.

[@brenmanock]

I had sleep paralysis once when my kids were babies and I lay down for a nap. Fell into a deep sleep and saw a man in my living room and couldn't move. Finally I came to. Scary at the time that it seemed so real and my eyes were even open.

[@dyannastevens4862]

Oh Keith, I feel ya, man. When I was younger I had multiple episodes of sleep paralysis and mine was a demon inches from my face breathing on me. Scary shit! Felt real.

[@LittleKikuyu]

That is horrific. 😨 Super impressive that you got through this, especially as a kid/young person 🙌 You stared the demon down 😁💪

[@morgan6590]

I had sleep paralysis one time. I was also trying to lucid dream. Never again. Whatever it was woke me up by punching underneath my bed, which was a mattress on the floor. 😮 I never saw it, but I could feel it. It felt like something sinister about to attack me. I couldn't move or scream, and the only thing to stop it was praying, and I wasn't really religious at the time. It was utterly terrifying. Shiver.

[@earthling148]

This just shows how our unconscious mind can work against our beliefs especially if you don't confront things. For someone who was seemingly uninterested or fact minded he certainly fell into believing crap ! Seeing shadows, do you know cataracts start when you're young. Sleep paralysis can certainly be frightening. Personally when it happened to me I did so much acid when I was in my teens it wasn't unnerving for me at all. I didn't have any scary creatures though, just lights, and noise. Feeling like you cannot breathe sounds a lot like sleep apnea which can affect the heart !

[@Heartofitall9691]

Wait a minute!! I see this at 6 am, and it dropped about 4 hrs ago!!🤯🤯 You just made my day Mikey, and it hasn't even started!!!👍👍 Can't wait to get to work and listen to your latest podcast!! Have a good one! Thanks again!

[@JessicaR17]

Maybe due to time change? Lol i still hope its a good day!

[@Proverbs31_25]

Irish🇮🇪 Mike ☘️ - i really like your nature hikes that you take us on ! and your friend is a Keeper ✌🏼 🇺🇸 🦐New Orleans 🐊Louisiana

[@99PercentOffFreeHugs]

I really enjoyed this episode! You need to come out with some merch. I'd totally buy

[@lauren5144]

i would definitely watch the video you want to do about the hammer of witches book. sounds interesting

[@Aware_Bear]

We love you too, Mike!

[@jacibea]

I've never seen anything during sleep paralysis, but I did hear a voice in my ear once saying "get up, get up, get up" ... and once where it felt like someone was kneeling on my bed .. it is so terrifying 😮😂

[@SarahLevan-b7q]

Your voice is sunshine to my ears..

[@Narniagirl309]

We all love Keith here, and...tolerate...Mike. 🤣🤣🤣

[@l.i.terally2907]

When I have sleep paralysis I can wake myself up by forcing myself to relax fully, even though I'm terrified. Over the years I've learned how to do this. Now, I can tell when I'm likely to get sleep paralysis--my sleep just feels off-- and can wake myself up before it happens, then do a "re-set" by falling asleep again.

[@GuitarPlayerNoah]

Sleep paralysis is 100% caused by a person's eyes being slightly open and the brain basically waking up before the body does. A sleep mask that completely covers your eyes is an instant cure. Some people get it from being overtired (like "night nurses syndrome") while others may have naturally weaker muscles in that area.

[@EvolvementEras]

Thank you bc reading these experiences horrified me but I use a sleep mask to protect my lashes so I’m good 😅

[@SimplySatisfiedSarah]

It’s called shift work sleep disorder. I’ve never heard it referred to as night nurses syndrome. I’m a nurse by the way.

[@midget_princess2200]

I used to get sleep paralysis a lot as a kid, I would scream for my mum but nothing came out. I hated it so much, it felt like it lasted forever. I hope it never happens again 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

[@Katz_Pajamas]

I've dealt with sleep paralysis and he describes it perfectly! Although there's nuance to it person to person, like I won't have somebody sitting on my chest, but when it happens to me I usually sleep with a TV on and I can see what's going on on TV, my eyes are wide open and I can look around only with my eyes to see my dogs in the bed, see my partner laying next to me asleep, and then I hear this super loud vibrating buzzing sound that envelops me and it keeps getting louder and louder and i feel it in my body like a heavy energy/pressure... Almost like when you're at a concert or in a car with super loud bass and you can feel it in your body but it's like 10x stronger. Then I see the shadows moving closer and I realize the buzzing is coming from them bcuz as they move closer I can see their mouths wide open and that sound is coming out. The only thing I can do is open my mouth as wide as I can and although I think I'm screaming my partner's name but the times that he's heard me he says it's barely an out of breath whisper. And I just keep saying help help over and over but that I could barely move my mouth to even muster out the word. He has to actually sit me up bcuz If I only move a little I'll fall right back into it. He says that the times that this has happened the expression on my face is always the look of absolute terror and fear. And you do get this feeling of doom or sometimes you even think you might die

[@cdorst2286]

I have lucid dreams. I normally will think something is off in the dream and then I realize that I can feel the bed along my side even though I am standing in my dream. I don't have scary dreams of people sitting on my chest screaming but that is probably because I can't sleep on my back.

[@radka747]

OMG, thats what I have, every night I am trying to wake up, finally wake up to discover I am not up (only because something strange happens) and the nightmares continues, it takes about 3 or 4 times to really wake up. By then I am so tired that I fall asleep again and am back in the nightmare so back to trying wake up. I have this for like 35 year almost every night. Its like being in "Nightmare on Elm street". The point is you are the only one throughout all these years who I hear say that he has i too.

[@sarahwilson6768]

I'm feeling Keith's pain on the sleep paralysis - it started in my early 20's, much less frequent now...I never had visuals but felt as if somebody/thing was pushing me aside in my own body- sometimes it was an angry or scary type entity and I would only be able to control my breathing in hopes my partner would hear me struggling and put their hand on me- that would bring me out of it immediately...I remember a tentative and gentle type experience and I thought I'd allow it to happen to see where that would lead, but as soon as the paralysis began I did a quick nope and the feeling lifted off immediately, almost like this particular entity didn't want to cause me fear or stress...it really doesn't feel like a body chemistry thing! It feels like an invasion of your body and most often it is a terrifying experience 😢

[@Ooh_PieceOfCandy]

I had sleep paralysis one time and it scared the daylights out of me. I sleep with my bedroom door locked, (I think it's a female thing). Anyway, I wake up one night laying on my back and I hear my door slowly creak open, which immediately sends me into panic mode because I ALWAYS lock it. I look over and I see the creepiest wide eyed, stringy haired man staring at me with one eye through the crack in my door, grinning like a psychopath. I try SO HARD to scream, to get up, to run and slam my door but I can't move, I just sit there and stare at him while my door starts to open more and more. And then the next thing I know, I've fallen back asleep. I didn't sleep right for a week after that. It felt SO REAL.

[@jessicablair5610]

Try this for lucid dreaming instead! Ask yourself how you got to where your are. Did you drive? Walk? Come alone? With friends? Even if it's in your own home, ask yourself how you got there last. The second you realize the dream just started there, and you don't remember how you got there, you can start to control your dreams. It's so crazy! I've been doing it for years!

[@Charlee1776]

I just wanted to chime in and say that it is true that you feel a sort of sense of impending doom but a weird distancing from everything when you're having an MI (heart attack). At least that is exactly what happened to me. Luckily for me, I didn't have any reason to think much of it other than that it was odd and brushed it off each time it popped up until I wound up in the ER and then it all made sense.

[@cherylcalogero3330]

Youre my favorite Mike! GOAT.!

[@stuffnthingsb.c4043]

Awesome guys. Like the two of you. Keith want see you for a quick pop in on the regular channel. Thanks budz

[@amydartist9209]

Love your podcasts just wanted to point one thing out: men who hate women are called misogynists, incel’s like women they just can’t get them.

[@lilyt18]

Uh.. have you listened to an Incel speak? Pretty sickening stuff

[@maryellenneillands5805]

Love from the Colorado Rockies!

[@RobbieRobot.]

Oh Keith!! You poor chap!! I have never had sleep paralysis but i have always seen shadow people but mine don't go away when i look.. i have had visitors for so long now i miss them when they are gone and they have only left me once for about 3 days (is when i noticed) and it was quiet and really spooky ...

[@elisaseverns2543]

I experienced sleep paralysis a couple times when I was around 14 years old. It is very disturbing. I heard my mom drive home, come into the house hollering for me then come to my bedroom door but I couldn’t turn over to see more than just the lit end of her cigarette. She then went into the bathroom. When I was finally able to move, I discovered she was not home, I called her work and she was still there! Definitely not as terrifying as someone on my chest strangling me though!

[@ValouQc]

A friend of mine’s uncle got up with his arms in the air screaming when the Montreal Canadians won the series screaming of joy. Then his hand of his chest, strange face expression and died right away. We called my friends mother to tell her that my friend was in the hospital and they found out she had aids, her mom died on the phone. Yes it happens, joy or shock.

[@momomasters]

gaaahhhhhh, i love this content! thx for being here (and PS: Your mics are SUPERduper hot on these casts... way diff audio quailty from the vlogs. STILL listening, just wishing...)

[@cdes1776]

Keith, you and I have much to discuss about paranormal experiences!

[@Hexepresso]

As a practicing pagan, I can tell you, this is exactly how curses work. You tell someone that you've cursed them, then they freak out and all the bad stuff, no matter how minor, they blame on the curse. Until they're in a full blown panic. However, the fact that it worked on someone who didn't believe in that sort of thing, is a little odd.

[@TimParker-Chambers]

32:29 Long story short: She (doing some sneaky things like cutting his fingertips) believed that she had put a curse on him. He, believed she had put a curse on him, to the extent he literally scared himself to death (by scaring himself to the extent his heart gave out) Had he not been such a 'gentleman/h0m0', and simply 'given her the business' when she offered, he'd likely either; still be alive, or, suffer a cardiac event while 'giving her the business' and keeled over while in the act (rather than in a bath-tub, stewing in his own fiIth 🥴🥴🥴🥴)

[@debmccool7574]

Fantastic story!

[@chirese387]

I used to have moments where I was in between sleep and being awake. It would feel as if someone was trying to drag my covers off me. And it would be like tug of war. I can hear myself groaning but then I’ll wake up with no issue

[@mommy2libras]

The salt around the butter churn and milk pails and such was a myth born from necessity in some regions. People would use salt (or chalk or any crumbly, grainy substance) to surround stuff that had to sit out because it was believed ants wouldn't cross the line. It does work to an extent- you can't just draw a single chalk line but if you put a decently thick chalk or salt line on concrete where ants are roaming, you'll notice they tend to turn back or wander al9ng the line and then wander away on the same side instead of crawling across. And even if one or two do brave the other side, they usually won't have the rest following them like they normally do on clear territory.

[@Tiki38]

Hey 👋 from Rocky Mountain 🏔️ 🏔️🏔️ High Colorado!! Umm Mike n Keith, speaking of sleep paralysis and seeing the SHADOWS, I suffer from those, have since l was little. I Feel you! I have just learned to live with them. Stay safe cuz l LOVE YA!💕💕💕

[@breezybee3774]

The whole feeling of dread as a symptom? It's the SCARIEST SHIT EVER. I have a heart condition and when it happens to me its like... watching a tsunami build at the shore. I cant even explain it.. impending DOOM. Absolutely terrified me.

[@reginagilby1101]

With love from Australia ❤️🇦🇺

[@maryannfascetti6421]

Thank you to you both an interesting story. So sad as it was. Have a good day.

[@MelissaThompson432]

I have found that i can wake up out of sleep paralysis by saying "wake the body up." Idk why it works, but it does. My logic the first time was that my body wouldn't move because bodies don't move when they're asleep. But my mind was awake, even while dreaming, because I was thinking, so I only needed to wake the body. I'm not going to argue with success.

[@cambiata]

I had to serve on a grand jury for 3 months. Before we started hearing cases, the police came by to explain their jobs and stuff, and the cop explaining drug cases (and working under cover) said that OF COURSE they didn't "taste" drugs to see if they were drugs, lol.

[@brianhanley2933]

Talking about sleep paralysis. I had to take pain meds after and between surgeries. Almost a year. It is terrifying. You try to scream. Can’t. Small movements to get out. Feel it in your jaw. Red light aliens jumping around the room the first time. Your afraid to drift off because of you do your certain you will stop breathing. Your all alone. It’s nuts.

[@VitoDRF]

I've had sleep paralysis twice. Both times it felt like something was pressing its knee HARD into my back (I was lying on my stomach) and it felt angry at me! No woman in white, no shouting, just the immense feeling of hatred and pressure squishing me. Eventually I came out of it but the whole time I really had felt like I was awake and being attacked. Side note, also had a couple lucid dreams that were pretty neat.

[@3SIXTYPROD]

Sleep paralysis is terrifying it’s happened to me several times where my wife had to wake me up while screaming in my sleep

[@TimParker-Chambers]

24:21 That makes sense; salt was much more of a commodity back in the day, and I guess someone who needed salt couldn't afford it, and if they couldn't afford their own salt, they likely wouldn't be able to afford to replace what was borrowed, which could indeed lead to bad feelings 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@pakde8002]

I like Keith's work ethic ❤

[@MelissaThompson432]

My relative used to dream that there was a huge black cat crouched on their chest with its face on their face trying to suffocate them. We had sleep paralysis dreams so often we just called them "the black panther" whether there was a creature in them or not. I had all kinds of creatures and, idk, demons, until I realized they were coming from my imagination. I still have a "black panther" occasionally when I'm really, really sleep deprived or exhausted, but there are never creatures or beings in them any more.

[@angelacarpenter5952]

I have narcolepsy which is accompanied by regular episodes of sleep paralysis!! It’s absolutely terrifying

[@msverde6292]

I've seen shadow people during sleep paralysis while pregnant... it was terrifying

[@dianacryer]

Night terrors suck. They are terrifying even after you snap out of it. But I can feel them coming. If I can sit up in time I can stop them.

[@HonestFreshly]

Sleep paralysis is literally the scariest shit ever I hate when I have an episode

[@d.eithel]

Damn it! I thought I was a witch but I LOVE salt! I can eat it as it is, nothing else needed. And im the one who Always use extra salt

[@carol0366]

I knew someone that went to the FBI "Academy" to be an agent. They went to a field of real human bodies in different levels of decay so they can be familiar with what a deceased body may look like at 1 day, 2 days etc. Also, he had to see all types of drugs and he also had to taste them so he could recognize when "on the job".

[@PaganPunk]

A Body Farm! There's a documentary about one on Netflix x

[@doctorshell7118]

Sleep paralysis (hypnagogic or hypnopompic hallucinations) are common and can be extremely frightening.

[@christyburns4293]

I have sleep paralysis & if I sleep on my side I never get it! Keith never sleep on your back!

[@junkieluv5326]

Awesome podcast!!

[@constipatedinsincity4424]

Hey Hey Hey Mike & Keith Come out and Play !

[@kimberlypatterson3171]

Mad respect 🫡 to Keith

[@kikikelly00]

Hahaha!! My MIL hates salt. Everything is "too salty" even if no salt was added. 🤣

[@melissamorton1282]

Everyone says they don't believe in witches until you ask them for a lock of their hair😂😂😂

[@TheValesilla]

There are also 'psychological pregnancies " 😮😮

[@RevP369]

19:49 Try hypnosis, if you already haven’t. Or a sleep doc. 👍🏾

[@TruthHurts-RECON-EYES]

I have sleep paralysis it's extremely scary feels like somebody's pinning me down with red eyes on chest.

[@susiew2521]

True fact. Many midwives were burned at the stake as witches when doctors realised there was money to be made from childbirth at the advent of medicine.

[@sarahissersohn5495]

I think that movie cop thing happened only before Fentanyl

[@ReannenJ]

ever throw salt over your left shoulder for good luck...yeah this guy

[@badgerZ221]

I had a bout of sleep paralysis, with the typical hag. It started with her pacing at the foot of my bed, each night she got closer, then on top of me, screaming. So real I could feel her weight, her breath. It sucked because even if I knew I was dreaming, I couldn't pull myself out. I just had to wait for it to pass.

[@jmas893]

I married a Wicken she seriously made me believe she put a curse on me... Curses aren't real but sociopaths are!

[@suzannef138]

Love the podcast. You and Keith are awesome together!!!