The Terrifying Imbalances In The Sexual Marketplace

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Vincent Harinam explains the main problem he has with the modern dating market. Why is mating so fraught between men and women? Is Tinder to blame? Why are so many people single? How do you find a girlfriend? Does the manosphere or red pill fix this?
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[@ChrisWillx]

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[@ArantyrDarkhand]

Your assumption that women are capable of feel guilty about that its childish.

[@dyecaster9341]

Wow! The brainwashing is strong. This conversation started off as how the SMV market is increasingly failing men. Somehow the focus shifts to "how can we cater for waymens ambient anxieties". Chris go watch some of kevin Samuel's very recent shows. He brakes it all down in practical terms.

[@beastieboy3907]

Why does it seem that more women want to be educated and earn more money because they are living in the great double standard, want a fix legalise prostitution...

[@dansaber8435]

God's intelligent design is for survival of the fittest. May the best man win.

[@reanschwarzer2187]

@@dansaber8435 true but many men getting women today are definitely the losers in that equation

[@greg7120]

We need a massive study on the ‘free stuff gap’ and the ‘who pays the most taxes gap’ and the ‘who dies in war gap’ and the ‘suicide gap’ and the ‘hard and dangerous jobs gap’ and the ‘child and spousal support payments gap’.

[@viralt487]

don't forget who has the most debt gap.

[@Rambo-lv9hu]

gender lay gap - how come women can get sex super easy, yet men cant...yet no government bothers with that..

[@JoeHeine]

Men are checking out of society, and rightfully so. Without men running society, it will in-fact, collapse. I am very much looking forward to the day of collapse.

[@etsequentia6765]

@@JoeHeine Right there with you.

[@HashFace253]

I like how I think all these things but then when I read them online I'm like "damn yall interpreted Dr peterson wrong af"

[@richardouvrier3078]

The thing is by being a bachelor you're actually richer even if you earn less.

[@ReasonAboveEverything]

But muh combined income is a bigger number.

[@LOCATIONREDACTED]

@@ReasonAboveEverything Yeah, the only people that say that have never been hassled for a car, an extension, an Aga, see how that goes for them!

[@IEVAKambarovaite]

What's really valuable in life usually got no monetary value.. But I can see why you'd think that being a bachelor works out better. I hope you're able to meet someone who may change your mind😉

[@WiseOwl_1408]

@@ReasonAboveEverything oh hell yes it is. It's nice to have some backup in life. And kids bring meaning to it all. It's not for every one though.

[@justlol7281]

But you aren’t happier. You are lonely, depressed, and suicidal.

[@undefeatedwrestler8301]

Tinder single handedly ruined dating and relationships for the average man.

[@coops1992]

Don't even start with the below average men :(( RIP for them.

[@taraswertelecki3786]

@@coops1992 Women think 80 percent or more of men are below average as it is.

[@josephhowell8158]

So true

[@kp361]

I see ugly people in relationships literally every day. If you can't get laid, that's your fault, not Tinder.

[@sarcodonblue2876]

It helped ruin it for everyone

[@grahamblack1961]

Social media is the romantic equivalent of spotify, no matter what song you’re listening to you, you always feel like maybe there’s a better one since you have access to pretty much every song in the world.

[@jukeboxjey5035]

Access to be able to chat and talk with almost every man in the world. Modern western Wimen are priviliged in terms of mayeselecting its getting unreal

[@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536]

I'm just grateful I got to live my sexual prime (15-40) before the advent of online dating. Average guys like myself had no trouble getting average girls. There was someone for everyone. Even if you were less than attractive, you could "grow" on a woman through personality and kindness. Those days are over, but then again so is my libido so...whew!

[@tylerdecker6994]

It’s such a joke anymore. Women have ruined dating for everyone

[@sidecharacter7165]

@MikeProductions1000 It is easier to pick up chicks in your 30’s and 40’s with a stable home and income. If you want nice chicks just work on your body, charisma(speak to random people when out about things like sportsball), and tell worn out 30 year old hoes that their too immature when you don’t “date your own age.” Girls in their early 20’s want guys with resources so building up yourself is the best option.

[@baldeagle4710]

yup, online dating was the end (except for chad). i started dating in the early 2000s. women cared a lot less about pics then.

[@evaphillips2102]

Ugly guys are still growing on women today, and they’re still acting out like „Chad and Tyrone“ when they get the chance. Careful what you put out in the universe.

[@samanthaduggan9002]

Australian Bettina Arndt is very interesting on this topic. She coaches average-looking single women to accept average-looking men instead of having sex with better looking men who will never stay with them or marry them. Imagine that's a job nowadays!

[@christianlorenz843]

You can"t ask a young man to defend or support a community or society that doesn't serve his interests. He should move somewhere he will be appreciated.

[@selohcin]

But there's nowhere he can go that is the way you described...especially if he's white.

[@SWIFTzTrigger]

@@selohcin The world is a big place mate, and there are many places a man is very much appreciated. Especially if he's white, in some cases.

[@manfrombritain6816]

this. i see good men wasting away playing video games and smoking weed because they have nothing important to do. meanwhile i regularly see female friends complain that "boys dont know what they want" which translates to: "i'm looking for a leader who wants to tell me he wants to make a family. i can't rely on any of these men because they haven't grown up" but the boys are so jaded from the dating game, so poor, so worried about divorce that they dont want to commit. they're also scared.

[@ashleyoasis7948]

@@selohcin ever heard of JBW being white is an international pass ppl roll out the red carpets for white tourists so that’s no problem bigger problem is being a foreigner in a white country where only going back home is the option

[@ashleyoasis7948]

Currycel in west if it ever goes to war I rather go to jail than the draft fuck being cannon fodder

[@ErwinSchrodinger64]

Once I realized male-female dynamics in the present day. I said it myself it's not worth it. Just focus on being the best person I can be. What I didn't expect is that I would find incredible peace and I'm more than content. Seeing all my friend being destroyed by divorce, relationships, and family courts... I said no way in hell.

[@greg7120]

That is my identical story. Thanks for sharing. Go in peace my brother.

[@aaroncaswell5053]

yeah im trying to not let it get to me and learn to find that peace. it's hard when you just got mind blasted by the truth of everything been halfway tempted to give up and call the va for antidepressants at this point but also trying to stay strong and hoping that things balance out emotionally with time.

[@fedup1606]

Peace is a currency men no longer get paid with in modern relationships. It's a shame men have to reject modern relationships in order to get paid in a currency they value. Honor, respect, loyalty, authority, etc. are a few other currencies men have a hard time getting paid with in relationships these days.

[@gregy1570]

ahhhh, but you missed out though. having to chase her around and beg for sex when you're still young and vigorous and she's still attractive somewhat, and it hasn't become boring yet; but then, when you're middle-aged and your blood has cooled (thank goodness), and she's DRASTICALLY declined too, THEN for some reason SHE demands it, and you better perform. even during the day, when you can't just rely on the dark to hide the awful truth and allow you to at least use your imagination:)

[@ErwinSchrodinger64]

@@gregy1570 all you have to do is stay in shape. I'm 38, prior military. I workout 10-12 hours a week, walk/run 18 miles, cycle around 150 miles a week (work permiting). I know plenty of guys in their 50's who will out perform most teenagers. I've always stayed in shape. When I was a combat and flight medic in the military, I was attached to infantry units and the Ranger battalions. You have plenty of men in their 40 and 50's that are still killing it. The down side of this is your sexual drive doesn't decrease. But again, it still not worth it.

[@Xarkom89]

We're at the point where women can sell bath water and farts in jars to desperate lonely men. Let me say that again -- women can sell their farts in a jar. That sounds like a running joke concept in a south park episode 15 years ago. What the hell is going on?

[@katiie7]

Feet thing is becoming popular too I’ve noticed lol

[@utoober33]

Honestly, the enemy is not women but men who allow this to happen. They make it difficult for society. It's the soyboys.

[@liyaxo4560]

@@utoober33 exactly. But its easier to blame “all men” or “all women”. This idea that a whole group are conspiring against you is delusional at best. We all have things we can work on, men and women.

[@CommandoMaster]

Most men are too beta/socially awkward/ugly/short to get girls because girls nowadays have too many options due to social media, so their standards are higher.

[@redlight3932]

South Park been candid since day 1 probably the only show I haven't stopped rewatching since I was old enough to remember Cartman calling Kyle a jew

[@rangerwhite5165]

Men won't commit to marriage, as it's too great a financial risk. It's just not worth it.

[@Syncrotron9001]

You'll just become a cogenitor kzbin.info/www/bejne/noSYYp1pgbSfnKc

[@TipseyTiger1996]

@@Syncrotron9001 how the fuck is this video on your own channel any bit relevant here?

[@Syncrotron9001]

@@TipseyTiger1996 Didn't bother to even read the description huh? Ill spell it out to you. A Cogenitor is a 3rd gender which is forced to labor to provide for a child that is not its own biologically while simultaneously being denied any input on raising said child. Marriage today means you're the one paying. She can still go out and you cant stop her, if another man impregnates her you'll still be put on the birth certificate. You'll be denied the ability to have input in raising the child by the public school system.

[@laur2139]

Men won’t commit to making the first phone call after getting a phone number from a woman in an app.

[@viralt487]

@@laur2139 don't date men that have 100 women in their phones. there are guys with none willing to take you serious.

[@CoolPapaJMagik]

We need to get back to commitment. Sex and love should not be frivolous. It is a sacred act and should be treated as such.

[@keylanoslokj1806]

The women are lonely by choice. If the would let the average man to simp for them, they would have a husband and a family any day... .

[@tomhavenith2330]

I'm curious. Are you in favor of serial monogamy or rather in the no sex before marriage and exclusive bond for the rest of the life fraction? I mean... I'm really just curious. No afterthoughts, no bad intentions... I don't really have an opinion in the matter. Just living my happy life.

[@keylanoslokj1806]

@@tomhavenith2330 the more you restrict hypergamy and sexual depravity in women the better society works. Recipe as old as time

[@CoolPapaJMagik]

@@tomhavenith2330 I’m for enforced monogamy, no sex before marriage. Broken families destabilize society

[@machtnichtsseimann]

Or multiple models of commitment. In my experience with discussing "sex and love" with anyone from strangers on YT to personal friends and acquaintances, the opinions vary on how it translates to real life. Honestly, negotiation and consensual agreement are good to focus on as people navigate their relationships.

[@deathproof84]

“Our side” has completely embraced simping and th.o.ts, oh how things have changed. These things belittle men and women!, we should be building people up and not tearing them down, our culture depends on it.

[@vklnew9824]

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[@label1877]

My female friends who are a 5 at best, walk around saying they deserve a top man. I try to educate them, a top man will smash you but never get serious with you. They don't listen.

[@sarcodonblue2876]

Why are you rating your friends as hotness numbers? That is so shallow and you expect them not be like this.

[@27MOJOKING]

I think he is saying many average women tend to be delusional in what they think they deserve in mate. They dont think they have to earn a mate like men have to. Average women deserve avg men & vice versa but today usually doesnt work like that . Women see 80 % of men as beneath them even though many those women are not top 20% of women.

[@jbrealestate7155]

@@sarcodonblue2876 women can rate guys so, why not women get rated? Equal energy playa. And why should women be like this? If she is a 5 then her ass should want a man who is a 5. Just like a man who is a 5 cannot get anything above a 6 unless he is rich.

[@proudatheist2042]

@@sarcodonblue2876 it's better than lying.

[@Lionty01]

Let's address the elephant in the room ; most modern women have been programmed to believe that majority of men are beneath them. #ModernMisandry

[@sidecharacter7165]

Tot has has been true and men have always recorded that throughout history. It is evolutionary to have better offspring like with other mammals.

[@joshjones9878]

its more primal than that.. studies show womem rate 85pc of men as below average attractiveness whereas the opposite is the normal bell curve you'd expect.. eggs are expensive, sperm is free. facts

[@Lionty01]

@@joshjones9878 saldy, if you think sperm is cheap, than the Overlords have managed to hide from you the true power of semen aka the seeds of life.

[@louisavondart9178]

It's not programming, it's Realisation.

[@younggold1416]

@@louisavondart9178 One day after society collapses and all of your daily comforts and rights is stripped from you. Women will also realize that the men that they had stepped on and mistreated are the same men responsible for everything that they had. What goes around will come right back around. More men are starting to wake up and realize our ancestors were correct. Men will put women back in their place. Deep down you already know, women have no real power against men. Deep down you envy men, because you know we’re better than you in every way. More men will come to this same realization. Count your days

[@abumohandes4487]

I share many of the observations. Young women will not settle for anything less than James Bond despite themselves not resembling any Bond girl. They'll look for that guy for 20 years, then the biological clock ticks and at age 39 they'll have a baby with the last guy that finds them attractive enough before they descend into solitary middle age. Allround unhappiness, for men and women.

[@tomhavenith2330]

I was so shocked when at our last High school reunion I was approached by at least 4 or 5 women on a group of 30 despite me wearing my marriage ring openly. 15 years ago these girls wouldn't even give me the time of the day and now they seem to assume I would cheat on my wife because they apparently think they are "hot" some of them earning x percent more, some x percent less then we, boohoo. They ridiculed me then because I was a geek and now they apparently think I should cheat with them on my adorable geeky wife because now they are 'ready'? I don't get their logic... is there any logic involved on their part?

[@charlieweaver6322]

Pre-selection may be at play here. Essentially, you have been selected by another woman, therefore you must have something about you. Women want what other women want. Also, you are taken, and women want what other women have. Plus they may just be spiteful and want to ruin your relationship, since they themselves are not happy. Misery loves company.

[@prettyboyjeremy]

The answer is a firm no. Remember these are the same kind of people to petition Google for underpaying them only for the numbers to reveal they were underpaying the men

[@everything...interesting]

They realize their sexual market value has declined, while yours has increased, so now "they're ready"

[@tomhavenith2330]

Thanks guys for these insights. It seems that I am still as socially clueless as I was 15 years ago. Just a LOOOOOT happier. :)

[@prettyboyjeremy]

@@tomhavenith2330 No problem dude. As long as you keep yourself healthy, your wife stays faithful and you don’t allow scum of any shape or form to take advantage of you You’ll stay happy friend

[@markflierl1624]

I have a better question. Why would any man want to bring a kid into this world? If a man doesn't want to have a kid, why get married? Just stay single and watch society implode.

[@Shadowwalker1717]

That's my life philosophy. I wait for the water wars in 15 years. All the climate refugees from Africa and middle east will collapse all first world systems by their millions of millions of millions masses.

[@Bruh-Moment435]

I want a kid because my dad is such a good father to me and I know if I can be even half as good a father as he is I would be a great dad

[@peripheralparadox4218]

Hypergamy is a greedy creature. A man who can provide is not enough. He needs to be one of the the best compared to everyone else. In a world where everyone was richer and better looking than Chris Hemsworth - I guarantee Chris would never get laid.

[@everything...interesting]

That's the real source of the problem. And nobody's talking about it. Female hypergamous nature is literally evil. 100k yrs ago, it was necessary for survival. But now, it's just the literal embodiment of greed. It has become completely maladaptive in the 21st century. It's going to lead to depopulation. And if you believe Elon Musk, this will lead to the collapse of civilization. But the elites don't care. They've been pushing this nonsense (feminism) on purpose, because they want to reduce the population.

[@everything...interesting]

@@dantieri9193 Bullshit. Raping children is evil. Murdering innocent people is evil. Stealing someone's wallet is evil. Countless things are evil. I've read 'Beyond Good & Evil.' I'm very well-versed in Nietzsche. Your nihilistic ennui is unimpressive.

[@peripheralparadox4218]

@@everything...interesting I agree it’s maladaptive to the the current environment, but wouldn’t say it’s evil. I would define evil as consciously causing others unnecessary harm. Taking half a mans stuff just because the law supports it is definitely on the spectrum of evil though. But you could be an greedy person and not be a thief. There is a golden ratio for everything, including the Earths population. Perhaps it is time we curb our population growth. If you look at every other organism that has a population outbreak - which is what mankind has been experiencing over the last 100 years - it is always followed by a sharp collapse. Mankind really needs to work out what our sweet spot is, and then maintain that balance. Who knows - perhaps this unbridled hypergamy will lead to women only breeding with top tier men, in which case after a few generations most men will be good looking and desirable. Natures own eugenics. There is a lot we don’t know.

[@everything...interesting]

@@peripheralparadox4218 All I know is, it would be nice to be in a committed relationship with a woman and not know that her inner nature is always just looking for the next best thing. Kinda makes the whole thing seem pointless

[@peripheralparadox4218]

@@everything...interesting I know the feeling man! Even if I were wealthy, I wouldn’t want a woman to know that. It’s the only way you can guarantee she’s not acting on her hypergamy. But that just means unless you’re good looking, pretty much no women will be interested.

[@denisech3351]

Simple solution. 1.) Women and men both need to work towards being the best version of themselves. 2.) Women and men need to realistically evaluate themselves to see what they bring to the table. It’s unrealistic for most men to think that their wife will look like an Instagram model who is going to cook and clean for you. It’s unrealistic for most women to expect that their husband will be in the top 10% of earners, very tall, handsome and fit. 3.) Look for a partner who has the character traits you want. For example, integrity, honesty, sense of humor, work ethic etc. 4.) Make sure the partner you pick has similar values and your goals align. 5.) Picking your partner is NOT a business deal. It’s not about getting rid of your partner for a younger & sexier person or dumping them because you found somebody who makes more money. It’s about the person you love and are committed to be with through good and bad times for the rest of your life.

[@zenden6564]

Rather misses the fundamental point being made.

[@8Maduce50]

See women won't do that, because they already bring something to the table in the form of childbearing. And men have no recourse to that. The only option is to end all traditional roles. Get rid of child support and stop shaming men into fathers then women will actually have to negotiate to actually see change. But that will never happen women make up over 50% of the vote.

[@jbrealestate7155]

As a man these days you don't really get to PICK your partner. Often times either you take what you can get and hope that you like her overtime or end up single for a lengthy period. And that is without looking for an IG model or Halle Berry in her prime type woman. Even as childless, financially stable in shape men we STILL don't truly get to "pick" who we want to do per say. Most of the time we have to settle unless you're rich, or a Chad/Tyrone.

[@sarcodonblue2876]

Exactly. Men need to stop watching pornography as it is destroying relationships!

[@JWSoul]

Men are realistic in most cases about their standards and this comment annoys me a lot. You're throwing the blame at men? Okcupid shows men have an almost perfect Bell Curve on who they find attractive in fact it is proven by a number of studies that women hold impossible standards and are not even attracted to most men this data is out there. Yet here you are blaming men, rather than putting the blame squarely where it belongs with women. Women have way higher standards in general do you know any women lol? Must be Tall, Dark, Handsome, rich, men on the other hand require a woman in most cases to be slim something you can do by not being GREEDY! Yes men have a role to play and of course they're at fault in many ways but when you CONSTANTYLY dilute the conversation and blame men for women's choices it derails the real issues. Also it speaks volumes about your knowledge on this and all the studies into attraction by dating companies. Men also widely report they can pull more attractive women in real life.

[@Chris-pp8fm]

What I took away from this is frightening. Assuming only a very small subset of men can afford to care for a family of 2-3 children without their partner needing to work in our current economy then women have basically had the choice to be a mother removed subversively. I believe this to be the case, I remember looking into the statistics for the UK and they confirm this to some extent: 1993-2016 (and it’s got worse since) Average wage ‘93 - 19k Average wage ‘16 - 23k Average house price ‘93 - 59k Average house price ‘16 - 249k I’ve heard from a lot of people about the attack on the family unit, increase in incentives for single motherhood etc and all the accompanying stats that prove it’s a horrific thing to do and this seems like an economic version of that.

[@thestoicwhinger]

It has not only been subversive but completely deliberate

[@williamwilliam5066]

So women got what women wanted, and now they don't like it. What's new?

[@shaunmcinnis1960]

Don’t forget that when comparing women’s degrees to men, men still predominantly have a predisposition to physical labor when it comes to trades, blue collar wrk, etc, it’s in our DNA. We are different.

[@purplelove3666]

Blue collar is not in your DNA

[@manfrombritain6816]

you mean: men do useful shit, women do a lot of bullshit

[@Hookythehammer]

I once dated a girl and we got on great then she found out I was allergic to dairy products and cos she was a huge cheese fan she ended it there and then saying that food is one of her big joys and if I couldn't share her favourite food with her then that wasn't what she wanted🤣🤦🏻‍♂️ I stayed single for 8 years after that until I met my current gf who is amazing, I don't like cheese, she does, but she hates baked beans and I love em. Don't sweat the small stuff, life is too short

[@GUITARTIME2024]

Dude, I promise you. That was an excuse. She just didn't like you enough.

[@danielsnook5029]

I also love baked beans, two hours after I eat them.🤣

[@Hookythehammer]

@@GUITARTIME2024 then I got off lightly huh, who would want to be with someone who hasn't got the cajones to be honest and tell you straight. Not me. She'd probably smell of Swiss cheese down there anyway with the amount she put away 😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

It's all about the cheese

[@wulfsorenson8859]

The first girl who loved food is obese by now…you dodged a bullet 🐷

[@ChattinBoxingWYB]

Facts about men and women: Beautiful Women are common. High Value Men are rare. High Value Men who are handsome and alpha are like unicorns. A woman's youth and beauty will always fade. A man's wealth and status can last forever. That's why a high value man will always have leverage in the dating and relationship market, no matter what.

[@hanswurscht6625]

Yeah, exceptional beauty isn't that exceptional. In every class there's a girl that is as hot as they come. But how many of the guys will turn into powerful and wealthy men? Depends on the level obviously, but if you talk about fuck you money, there'll be 10 hot bimbos for every guy.

[@snakedogman]

Beautiful women are common up until age 30-ish. After that... not so much.

[@deansusec8745]

Beautiful women are very rare, but they are usually very choosy

[@deansusec8745]

@@snakedogman Thats cuz theyre not really beautiful, just young.

[@ChattinBoxingWYB]

@@deansusec8745 So, So True Milfs are very very rare!!

[@coreyworthingtonii9230]

Top 10% of each earning, height & fitness is like 1 in 1000. Good luck to the women who think they’ll lock that guy down. Like, yeah, you might; but you probably won’t.

[@mikelisteral7863]

thats whey they all become feminists, because the top guy didnt marry her so she gets bitter

[@AleQuag]

Only Stacy can, all the rest are just gonna end up being Chads cumdumpster

[@j.k5654]

You mean 1 in 10,000 bro Don’t forget only 10% of men are 6 ft and above. Add earnings + fitness to that… good luck to them Add handsomeness Etc 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@whywhenwhere4377]

Top 10% in height plus top 10% in looks plus top 10% in body plus top 10% in earnings plus top 10% in cock size 🤣 That’s probably like 1 in 50,000. And he won’t comity to anything but a woman who is 1 in 50,000.

[@andrewevans6826]

@@j.k5654 im 6”4 n make shit but i work on my body tho lol

[@sunnydays405]

To summarize: Chad always wins

[@gregy1570]

only if you decide to compete with him. and who's chad, anyway. is he the tough, wise, honorable, hard-working, physically imposing man whom once upon a time most men would wanna follow? or is he just the douchebag whose strut fools foolish women??

[@captaintac3115]

@@gregy1570 good question. I fear women and insecure men tend to see McDouche as a "Chad".

[@gregy1570]

@@captaintac3115 thanks. it's very disheartening to me to see simps not only idolise mediocre p itself, but idolise the mcdouches too getting it. i've even had grown men try to argue with me that JOHN MAYER is The Man, simply because he slays hollywood idiot sluts. there is no known universe - real, parallel, alternate - in which i would want to be john mayer, or would think of him as a man. ditto drake, or biebs, or johnny depp, or on and on and on. and that's of celebrities. it's just as bad at the lower level. at my college (a well-known up-its-own-ass school in nw indiana), there were 2 groups of guys with large organised female followings: the laxer bros, and the glee club. those with fraudulent masculinity, and those without any. man i'm getting spun up about this..

[@gregy1570]

@hohoho bobobo but again - WHO IS CHAD. is he the neanderthal green-beret rhodes scholar ass-kicker; or the strutting d-bag with Game and dance moves??

[@offBeatRock777]

More abstractly, nature always wins. Nature dictates that Chad is fitter

[@DrGingerHamster]

There is nothing wrong with hypergamy. That is likely why we're still here as a species. What we have today is not hypergamy, it is absolutely unrestrained, unfettered, you go girl hyper-hypergamy. Eventually, it is a numbers game. There are only so many (and really very few) of the top top men that are desired by a majority of women. Average men don't stand a chance until she's 'ready to settle down' and average man might then be able to wife up someone. Even THEN the wammens will complain about having to 'settle'. Alpha widows are a real thing.

[@mikelisteral7863]

hypergamy causes a small amount of men to have so much selection that they never marry any of them and just use them like free hookers.

[@pandorasbox17]

Times changed, more men don’t want these girl’s anymore when they are finally rdy. It’s really bad for society but I think it’s the normal way of evolution.

[@shaunsteele8244]

we're still here as a species because for thousands of years women's behavior was restrained by men. 50 years ago we decided to just let them do whatever tf they want, and now we have this trainwreck

[@DrGingerHamster]

@@shaunsteele8244 That's a fair point. 'Restrained' hypergamy.

[@sarahrobertson634]

@@shaunsteele8244 Men's behavior is being restrained by natural law these days. Only top males deserve to breed. Just the way nature intended. It's worked for billions of years.

[@StrawberryAppleCream]

For myself I can see the pressure to perform like a man came mostly from my dad and yes also society. My dad had no clue how to be there for a girl and to appreciate femininity. The only way to get his approval or positive attention was to get good marks. I struggled so hard with this my entire life and fought my own heart so hard. I have never been interested in a career. I always dreamt of exploring the world, beauty, romance and family. It was only in my very late 20's that I started to let go of the shame that I never went to college and that it was a good choice for me.

[@nikeisagreekgoddess4135]

But what about your mom? Didn't she give you the tools to be a woman?

[@ArantyrDarkhand]

Wellcome to every male life no matter who you are... think men have it good? Youre a tool if you dont perfome youre nobody, after you dont overperfom every one youre just considered bellow avarage.

[@cnote3598]

@@ArantyrDarkhand who gives a fuck what people think? Real men don't care for the opinions of strangers

[@ArantyrDarkhand]

@@cnote3598 most ppl... Most ppl cara about what strangers think. And this give then a endless surce of fale problem. Its Just see How social média is... If you use chances até youre one of then.

[@pandorasbox17]

Im in the same situation. Failed my first study in business administration. Now studying biology because I’m more interested in nature and not money like my father wanted me to go after . I also realized that chasing money is a dead end and will never fulfill. So I will chase my dreams and give a shit about what society will expect from me even if it mean’s that I’m not able to have a family. After my last break up it’s hard for me to give Love a second, or was it a sixth? Chance. I went through so much trouble loving girls which left me for no particular reason that I will just life the best life for me I can imagine for myself. Don’t know if the current dating situation will get better any time soon . And now with red pill knowledge everything makes so much more sense… good luck everybody finding your pourpose;) don’t sacrifice your precious energy for money. It’s wasted energy.

[@user-qb7ms6vs7s]

I'm going through a divorce. It's the worse life experience I had to date. Marriage Not Recommend. Some women can be so evil it shocks me and I've seen a lot of things.

[@NJM1313]

ah yes because domestic abuse happens by itself, rape happens by itself, the way men abuse women is gonna keep them soft and delicate, you say ... sure buddy!

[@johneato]

Don't lose hope, You can still find a progenic life. You are wiser for it.

[@kp361]

Some men can also be evil. Stop blaming the world because you picked a shit wife.

[@VeritasIncrebresco]

The dating game is an updated version of the same game that humans have always been playing: survival of the fittest. We are not dying of famine/plagues/war etc the way we used to, but birth rates are dropping like crazy because it's too expensive to have children. Only the top tier of men can afford to have children, and only a small percentage of young women choose motherhood over a career path. Only those select few are having (multiple, healthy) children to produce further generations. Brutal reality, but life has always been brutal in one form or another. I wish all of you good health and mental fortitude. Greetings from a degenerate NYC my friends

[@prettyboyjeremy]

Greetings from Maryland My only fear is my only chance at a happy relationship is a Chinese war bride or being drafted into a Chinese American war

[@skylinefever]

Urbanization and industrialization lowered the birth rate. Before those things happened, each child quickly went from one mouth to feed to two hands to harvest. People were incentivized by that to have marry early and have several children. After industrialization and urbanization, there was no financial incentive to have children. They became a hobby and when the economy goes down, so does the number of people who can afford the hobby.

[@robbenvanpersie1562]

@@skylinefever If modern economy collapses we might go to olden times increasing our birth rate

[@josephanglada4785]

So sexual selection is coping like this for the lack of natural selection?

[@prettyboyjeremy]

@@josephanglada4785 That and strong laws that discouraged aggressive mate taking or silent G Grape as we like to call it For the most part war used to be the no 1 way to find a wife

[@D97mgtow]

This is a result of social engineering, there has been a steady and concerted effort to drive boys out of the higher education system as well as a relentless pursuit by employers to most highly hire women

[@tarico4436]

Are you super high? Or mostly high?

[@cosmeticscameo8277]

@@tarico4436 no it's real. look at college campuses. majority female look at affirmative hires...care to take a guess?

[@tarico4436]

@@cosmeticscameo8277 I've been sort of a self-trained (autodidact) speed reader for decades now. Some items I read diligently; some I sort of skim. I got to the last few words of the OP's comment, and it tripped me up big time. Had to reread it three times. I get the drift, but his/her alliteration threw me for a loop! Much better would have been "...to mostly hire women."

[@Shemale_Barbie]

There hasn’t been an effort to drive boys out of higher education. They themselves are leaving. There is a study on this and I forgot the name but it’s an effect calls “someone hung gender leave” the study says that whenever women join something men do, the men themselves decide to abandon that thing out of fear of the feminine. The study gives examples about how Men used to wear heels because it was a symbol of upper class and power but then when women started wearing that, men stopped doing that and by their own will left, or like how pink used to be a male colour but once a woman decided to wear it and many women then decided to wear it, men stopped wearing it and blue now became the colour for the masculine. Pink was a colour for masculine coz of how similar it was to red which symbolised power. To summarise, whenever and area of something gets “invaded” by women, men leave. Most teachers were Male. Look now? Most psychologist were Male. Look now? Another study showed that a man is less likely to go to a university if he is aware that it is made of mostly women, even if it was like 52% 48% men. There is a study on that I’m literally trying to find it.

[@cosmeticscameo8277]

@@Shemale_Barbie interesting.

[@TheMadGamingMonkey]

Accepting the concept of a “sexual marketplace” and playing that game is what makes men miserable. There are other ways.

[@mikelisteral7863]

men dont like playing the game. they just like trying to score. thats why women will always dominate the relationship scene. because they spend infnitey more time thinking about it

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

And who brought this concept to you?

[@selohcin]

The concept is real enough whether you accept it or not. There are things you can do to increase your odds, but it's definitely real.

[@HN-bm7kf]

@@selohcin Exactly, you must accept the truth. If you don't you shouldn't bother with it. Dont chase, upgrade yourself until what you want chases you.

[@Yararar]

@@HN-bm7kf exactly, men want attractive women, that’s what they want, women also have their own wants, it’s a game to appease both parties, why should people just settle for anything and live miserably?

[@rajunaidu7751]

Feminism has freed men from the burdens of marriage 😆

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Freed women as well

[@danielk348]

Now this is funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@haridunic2351]

And left us a choice to use them as a sperm dumps. Pump and dump man

[@meshugganator08]

Why would you play this game? The military likes it when you die for them, society cares greatly about your money capacity or your death, women seem to have other intentions as well. Society has no right to ask me to work and die for it.

[@mohican19831]

those same people call you evil white oppressors while you die for them. To hell with society

[@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756]

This hits the nail on the head. So much of everything in the modern day relies on everyday people willing to work or fight for it, but like who under 30 has any feelings to work or fight for any establishment outside of religious folks

[@wheeliebin18]

Thank social media. People have no idea how to simply TALK to a stranger anymore, it's seen as weird or creepy for a guy to approach a woman in public these days.... that's a terrifying concept!

[@kennyadedayo8550]

It’s only weird and creepy when she’s not attracted to you. SIMPle

[@wheeliebin18]

@@kennyadedayo8550 Ah of course, I forgot XD Even then, it's easy enough for both parties to be civil and polite.

[@kennyadedayo8550]

@@wheeliebin18 Yeah. Most people like nice people. But also being too much of a pushover doesn’t help either.

[@sarcodonblue2876]

To be fair a lot of men do approach women in a creepy way and for years would honk at ones they think we're attractive as they drove by. In Australia men are really rough and yell at women they think are attractive and get mad when the women are not interested or don't like being yelled at. Rough as guts Aussie bogan culture. I don't like wokism but it has made this less socially acceptable. I have been honked at when riding my bike which could be so dangerous.

[@carlosmata2404]

Bro I started working on myself because of this and for the first time in my life chicks on a mass scale started noticing me. I would say you either play the game or you lose and there’s no point in not playing so just try to do the best you can and trust me you will be better off than the 40% of guys who already gave up.

[@mikelisteral7863]

u gotta stand out and waive a wedding ring in front of their faces like a carrot on a stick

[@jeffjohnson5053]

@Herold Jaras Foreign women!! Eastern Europe, South East Asia, Latin America. Foreign women are very humble and maintenance free like Honda cars!!

[@voiceofexperience]

Get back to me in a decade.

[@vincentdimitri169]

@@jeffjohnson5053 Only in the smaller towns, cities and countryside. Capitols and large cities are ridden with feminism almost as much as the west.

[@Shemale_Barbie]

@@vincentdimitri169 what is wrong with feminism? The dictionary definition: the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes. What is so wrong about it as described by the dictions it definition? Do you mean feminism or man haters?

[@Letsplay222]

All good points except when the said that woman would rather be single than be in a relationship with an inferior man, implying that single men and single women are equivalent. Every young woman is in a 'relationship' of some sort with some man somewhere. She might be strictly some guy who is way out of her league's bi-monthly Wednesday night sex toy, but she has that 'relationship' and she prefers that to a committed relationship with an average dude, who when is single is truly single.

[@YoLoBrOtHeR]

100% part of the issue is women try to place you into their life nowadays cause they playing field is uneven, which feels in genuine, and originally against what our natural roles were.

[@Impalingthorn]

I think I speak for most people when I say I do want to marry the woman of my dreams, have children, focus on a family. But politics and media has ruined an entire generation of women. Commitment is bad. Traditional roles are evil. Approaching women in any way comes with a multitude of issues and men have become scared to try and do so out of fear of being accused of one thing or another. Assuming you get the girl, then there's the actual hurtle of being in a relationship (because most people you date won't wind up being "the one"). But assuming you get to the late game, MARRIAGE, well that's where the biggest kick in the dick comes in, because now if anything fails she can legally just take half your stuff and if you have a child, even one you didn't consent to having, you gotta pay child support. Meanwhile media of literally all types spews spiteful messages about how fucking EVIL men are for simply existing, we get treated like jokes, berated and degraded, and society at large just doesn't give a shit. Hell, you cannot even say what I am saying right now without getting immediate backlash; people will immediately strawman you as a pathetic virgin, or a mysoginist, or immediately turn it into a conversation about perceived women's problems. I can get people not taking an issue seriously but it's like men aren't even allowed to have problems without THAT itself making men problematic. So yeah. Men are dropping out of the dating game. There's nothing political about it, it's just at one point or another you WILL be pushed in the direction of MGTOW whether you wanted it or not. And what men are finding is that it's actually kinda fucking liberating to just focus on themselves and NOT have to worry about someone else.

[@PsychokoreUndergroundRap]

🎯👌🏼

[@zenden6564]

A somewhat harsh but not unreasonable assessment.

[@javiervillar4644]

Great comment!

[@SnerMerNer]

Nailed it in one. No incentive to participate, so why bother?

[@louisavondart9178]

1: Be a gentleman, always, and you won't have any issues. 2: Get a prenup. 3: Try to remember that women haven't been " ruined ". It's just that they are aware that they do not need you, or any man, in order to survive and prosper. 4: Stop listening to the media. They are making you feel bad about yourself. 5: Expect nothing, be grateful for what you have and work to improve your situation, without having unreal expectations. If you really don't care about having a relationship, you will appear more attractive. It sounds weird but it's true.

[@giannis_tar]

This makes no sense. Why is it that men crumble without a partner but women don't? And why should women have to date men so they don't crumble? I know he didn't say that, but it was clearly implied

[@MrBooYa-yd5er]

I prefer to go from one short term thing to the next.

[@BohemianAndy]

Women don’t crumble without a partner? 😂😂😂 That’s a good one.

[@giannis_tar]

@@BohemianAndy he said so, not me. Did you watch the video?

[@rustycamper1785]

one of the main problems is some women are aggressive. un kind. and trying to find ways of using guys for their own advantage. most guys get ignored because she has a lot of better options but when that dries up the guys who have been push under the bus or seen their friends crushed walk away as theses women are mostly unattractive or would need ivf which is just too expensive for guy to an to invest in a girl who told him to get lost when se was younger.

[@mikelisteral7863]

women want a man with resources to get obsessed with her. until she has that she wont be happy.

[@sarcodonblue2876]

Guys only make friends with females to get into their pants or for a relationship and then get mad when the women won't have sex with them. Try looking into yourself and go to therapy

[@saratujibrin3755]

I disagree I'm Nigerian and this whole concept of stay at home wives is relatively new to most Africans. Back in the day both men and women worked in farming and other jobs. In fact, many women did not just work during and after their pregnancies but I've heard many stories of women giving birth in the farm, market or Bush where they worked, in fact some of them gave birth on their own in these places and brought home the baby.

[@JaimeWarlock]

This video is about a first world problem, especially those countries with welfare. I recommend to all my male friends that they go overseas to find a wife. I am married to a Kenyan lady, but men can find a good wife in SE Asia, Ukraine, South America, and many other 3rd world countries (including Nigeria).

[@user-wl1uz5sb9f]

Interesting

[@db7084]

@@JaimeWarlock If you think those women aren't marrying you for your money and access to the West, you are a fool. Even a poor western man is rich to women of those countries. And there are countless stories of those women marrying western men, getting residency in the West, and then divorcing them. And they are more cunning and able to play the 'I adore you' game than western women, as in many cases it is a matter of survival as they have no welfare where they are from. Do not be fooled. Unfortunately, many men fall for it, and live to regret it.

[@JaimeWarlock]

@@db7084 Men ususally look for youth and beauty just like they look for someone financially stable. A totally fair trade. Love is developed over spending time together. Also, there are plenty of women willing to marry Americans without wanting to come to America. I retired in Kenya and my wife will probably never see America.

[@db7084]

@@JaimeWarlock Yes, it is a fair trade... if she intends staying with him. There are many men who bring their wives to live in the west, only to end up alone and financially poorer after a couple of years when she divorces him and retains residency (and welfare), as was her plan. And western men are a catch in most poor third world countries, even if they intend to stay there. What I am saying is that most poor 3rd world women will latch onto any westerner they can get, and are often not in it for the long haul. I've seen it happen too many times, but the men will not be told. Their girlfriend/wife is 'not like that'. Poor gullible fools.

[@darrenupton5500]

In my 50 year of chatting to women in bars and nightclubs. The only thing they are interested in is what you do for a living. No exceptions.

[@Shogun-qs6sv]

Maybe but there are a lot of jobs most women don’t even know about. When I was Neuro Tech back in the 80’s I sometimes wore my white lab coat everywhere I went and often those girls I knew from my neighborhood or high school thought I was doctor. Most couldn’t even figure out what I did. So there are a lot of jobs most don’t know about.

[@noklarok]

are you in USA?

[@clauaome25]

Correct. We only care if you can provide or not.

[@ashleylala4293]

It used to be understood that being a mother is a full time job in itself. Today women are expected to do that job and have a career on top of it. What would happen if men were suddenly expected to work 2 full time jobs or be ridiculed by society. Man, we are living in a very deranged and dysfunctional era.

[@fgcpeak9591]

Men do work multiple full time jobs lmao

[@mireillenadeau2348]

It used to be understood that motherhood is a full time job in itself. But oftentimes it's actually 2, with the housework. Now there's the expectation on working a job on top of that.

[@doomdawggy101]

@@mireillenadeau2348 lol its almost like the “equality” everyone argued for was just an excuse to line the fat pockets of the elite with more slaves in their factories, now we have career women who are on vicodin trying to numb the pain

[@theironson1043]

Unfortunately women were easily fooled into this dynamic, not realizing they had it good.

[@robertpirsig5011]

Dating apps are pure toxic I have to say it. However, I disagree with the point that women will not settle; initially maybe not. But at a certain age they will and have to if they want children. I will admit though it must be tough for young men in their early to mid twenties as the dating apps are pure toxic environments.

[@taraswertelecki3786]

Dating apps were designed to destroy men's and women's ability to form relationships with one another, and they are doing that as they were designed to do.

[@rudy1999]

They will settle pretty early even with average looking man if she wants kids desperately. Otherwise no freaking chance.

[@WhoBlah21]

@@taraswertelecki3786 Not really, dating apps were designed to gather and keep users for the sake of collecting data to sell to advertisers just like social media. There can never be a "good" dating app because if there were no one would be on it, because they would of found their partners and deleted their accounts. Not to mention that a lot of these dating apps are starting to implement live streaming functions, for no other reason than to keep people's attention and keep you from deleting your account.

[@noo343]

No they won't settle they will just die alone dude

[@satoshinakamoto7253]

read the rational male and the SMV scale

[@quattron-1126]

It’s not easy being a man. Period. But… I wouldn’t have it any other way either.

[@bewilderedbrit8928]

I've been single for two years. I was obsessed with replacing the ex I was hypergamously dumped by, at the beginning. I threw myself into dating and it turns out i'm an upper echelon normie, not quite a chad, but capable of getting laid. But I noticed that if I embellished or exagerrated my financial/career attributes I would get far more attention. All I had to do was put the word "finance" as my occupation on the dating apps and the matches would roll in. I also noticed how entitled and neurotic modern women are. The older they are the angrier they are. The younger they are, the more games they play. Ive had 37 year olds with barely concealed baby rabies and 20 year olds with princess complexes. Finally I feel happy to just stop chasing these creatures and focus on making bank. 6k saved in two years by refusing to simp and being economical. You dont have to actually spend your money on them, you just have to let them know you have it in order to get them to sleep with you.

[@cnote3598]

well said

[@theelectricprince8231]

I really dislike the "games" younger women play.

[@justinreich3486]

You can get a awesome motorcycle for 6k my good sir.

[@Shemale_Barbie]

@@theelectricprince8231 then don’t go for younger women. Older men aren’t desirable to younger women and never were it’s your money that is and with the fact women can provide for themselves now coz they work, the SMV of older men and men in general has dropped more because it was mainly determined by their money value of which women in the past lacked and were financially depend on due to not working but now that they do work and get their own money, this means a man SMV is dropped and with the internet being a thing and social media making both gender more interested into look, it makes older men in older time even more undesirable simply because looks wise the average older man looks less attractive than the average man in his youthful 20s. The social media part has both increased and decrease the SMV of older women in terms of it making people date for look more, it makes the older woman more undesirable than she was But at the same times it’s been proven men will fuck anything so her chances of dating isn’t slim especially with younger men who have a milf fetish or a thing for older women which is mainly due to too much porn these days. Younger women have highest SMV and more fertile but I never understood why men like you go for us from a logical point of view considering MOST younger women whether it is today or in many eras in the past were never interested in older men except for their money and we always tend to like boys around our age which is a traditional rule and exception are the younger women who do date older men on their own will tend to either have daddy issues or come from bad house hold where they don’t have a dad present. The bad boy phase is more common in underaged girls and it becomes equal in percentage with other types of men once she is 18-21 because at this age it isn’t “I want bad boy only” for the general female population, there is more variety in preference from this age which is where the varied interests in types of men begins.

[@teekaybe4016]

6K in two years seems a little low.

[@LordRykard9376]

One thing that I think we need to take into account is that hypergamy involves a mental calculus women engage in where the math can change. Women can view prestige differently e.g. a woman can see a high value male who may not check all of the boxes like physical stature or salary. For example, my wife married me knowing my line of work doesn't make a lot of money but it is still seen as highly prestigious. A number of women could focus more on what the pay is versus what I do. We should also focus more on other variables that impact the dating market. Economics plays a massive role in mate selection. Sex distribution also plays a role. Birth control plays a huge role. And we haven't even gotten into cultural perspectives such as online dating or technological impacts on culture.

[@Philosophyoftruth_]

This has got to be one of the most mature comments I have seen around this topic. Hope you are well. Take care.

[@Syncrotron9001]

im amazed the word hypergamy hasn't been cancelled yet.

[@LordRykard9376]

@@Syncrotron9001 maybe it hasn't hit critical mass yet.

[@everything...interesting]

@@LordRykard9376 most people still don't know what it is - it's just starting to become widespread

[@LordRykard9376]

@@Philosophyoftruth_ thanks. Likewise.

[@adambilge2834]

The average guy trying to find a decent woman is like existentialism, there are no answers or solutions.

[@SnerMerNer]

No answer, no solutions, only loneliness and pain. Women hate men these days.

[@low_vibration]

drugs help

[@demonicaxeman7264]

I see no value in trying to find a woman anymore. The thought of sex is no longer exciting and women in general just become annoying. I think the latter is because once the fun is removed, you see the truth and it's not a happy truth.

[@PsychokoreUndergroundRap]

The ugly truth

[@louisavondart9178]

I think the name " Demonic Axeman " might be a Red flag for most women.

[@sarcodonblue2876]

Maybe work on yourself dude

[@whywhenwhere4377]

@@sarcodonblue2876 Why?

[@ButchersNailsEnjoyer]

Bruh idc how bad or lonely i get, im never downloading tinder. One of my roommates relied heavily on it and he was a decent looking guy and the girls he had to work for made lot lizards look like miss america

[@James-iz9qb]

There is an aspect of the human spirit that tends to function in this way. But to the extent we do, we are morally/spiritually corrupted. There is a deeper form of masculinity/femininity that is not a zero sum game- and is a form of attractiveness that emerges from the individual's being itself rather than their status in society

[@Pimp-Master]

Do you have an example?

[@SWIFTzTrigger]

@@Pimp-Master Think about it, if all you care about is looks, money and status then what exactly do you have? You don't value principles, characteristics like kindness, courage, generosity etc. Its all an animalistic game then you're not exactly enlightened lol.

[@illwitness]

Great upload and great material.

[@monkeybrains5077]

Also the obesity epidemic is another factor in dating. Nowadays generally woman more picky than ever and less attractive then ever.

[@conq3097]

💯 you hit the nail on the head

[@sweetercin1]

It goes both ways!

[@27MOJOKING]

U really think men in general r as picky as women? 80% of men just want a woman who looks decent & not psycho. Only bottom 20% of women have standards like that

[@whywhenwhere4377]

Nearly all women are fat now. Yes fat. Not BBW or a few extra pounds. FAT. It’s not attractive to the vast majority of men and it never will be. They on the other hand still seem to expect men to keep in reasonable shape for them. What a joke 🤣

[@whywhenwhere4377]

@@sweetercin1 no it doesn’t

[@CassandraNadine203]

In Australia, we have 12 months of maternity leave for full time employees. Oftentimes, the company will pay you ~12 weeks of your salary during that time. The government also offers Paid Parental Leave for 18 weeks, at minimum wage for people within a certain income bracket. It's very generous. Then for men, more and more companies are offering ~2 weeks of paternity leave. The government also offers 2 weeks of Paid Parental Leave for men, at minimum wage.

[@lsporter88]

Very thorough, and detailed analysis and explanation of the Modern Social Dynamic. Salute.

[@waggadorn]

Easy fix to the imbalance. Women should stop putting out before marriage. Chads would not be interested, and the woman’s own perceived value would be more realistic. Genuine relationships with more genuine suitors may be the result.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Easier yet..Men should stop putting our before marriage

[@waggadorn]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 women are the gatekeepers

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

@waggadorn Lol..that's all you've got? Men aren't capable of independent thought to circumvent this? Pathetic

[@waggadorn]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 which do you do? , lock your front door, or request and expect that no one enters?

[@sarcodonblue2876]

Men should stop watching pornography and look within themselves and learn how to connect emotionally

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

spoilers: it's gonna get worse wait until 2025 LOL

[@skylinefever]

It will be exciting. Herbivore men arrived in Japan a little over 10 years ago, and the sampo generation entered South Korea around the same time. It has been said that what happens in those countries will happen in western countries. Well, 10 years has already passed, here it comes.

[@doscaminos204]

It’s a women’s world, period. They have the social preference, if they get pregnant the state and their parents take care of them. In the non degree jobs they get paid more for doing less, a man in a warehouse or production line doesn’t make as much as the receptionist in the office. The school system is designed for women. They have more power and therefore they have the ability to choose. Not to mention the social engineering of reverse gender roles. These are the consequences of a modern world with feminist qualities.

[@JJmikra]

Is receptionist such well paid? Maybe. Maybe if she is beautiful and working at a fancy place🙄 But then I guess there are not many such well paid receptionist positions compared to production line jobs

[@doscaminos204]

@@JJmikra It depends, obviously mine is just a generalization. It really comes down to basic economics. Just ask yourself, if a receptionist gets paid 5 dollars less than a production worker, is it worth avoiding the physical and repetitive labor. I worked in the past in manufacturing and janitorial positions. And most of these industries were men doing the physical labor and women in the office doing data entry and answering phones. In most cases they at least started at 15-20 an hr. while the laborer started at 8 or 12 an hr. Depending on the line of work there is also more opportunity for advancement in white collar jobs. I know a couple of women that didn’t have a college degree but were given HR positions. And those jobs are better paid and less strenuous. So that’s my experience and opinion.

[@nemosnemo8869]

Rolls eyes. Yes, it’s so easy being a woman. I wake up everyday and jump for joy. But seriously, intellectual jobs pay more than manual work in many cases. Lots of men do manual work. Lots of women work in offices. Don’t imagine that makes us preferred. I’m an attorney. Men are very good attorneys and this used to be a male only profession. But I’m paid the best because I am the best. Clients ask for me by name as I haven’t lost a case in years. This has nothing to do with my sex and everything to do with my ability.

[@sgtbilko2950]

World changed the minute women won the vote (surprise)

[@pabis6817]

@@nemosnemo8869 I’m sorry but answering a phone and scheduling a meeting is not an intellectual job. It is the job that anyone can do! Funnily enough I was a male secretary for an attorney at the US labor department for 2 years. I worked under an insane female feminist that also sexual harassed me to no end! No one gave a shit! But that’s beside the point I’m making. She had a drinking problem tried to kill herself and even though vile to work for it was easier and took less brain power than any manual labor job I’ve ever had while also paying far more! (She had her law degree paid for by her ex husband that as soon as she finished her bar she dropped like a bag of rocks) Anyway, In all work places I’ve ever worked I’ve yet to see an example of where the majority100% of of women don’t have it better than the majority of men 99.9% but I will admit out of the entire work force there are 2 maybe 3 men out of hundreds or thousands of people who have it the best of all. Other than that, it’s better to be a woman in the work place by an astronomical unit. Especially now where in general you can get hired, promoted while totally under qualified just for being a female.

[@obadiahspong2300]

There are millions of unhappy single women over 30 years old out there. They focused on their careers in their 20s but have now reached their ceiling, and their biological clock is ticking fast. The feminist propaganda of the last 50 years has done them a lot of harm and they are now waking up to it.

[@danielk348]

This is like a TV series 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@barbarakaufman5384]

finally, an argument i have wondered about for 50 years....thanks,

[@Sivesind]

Men is made sure to have low self-esteem, or good enough self-esteem to do what you`re told, via schools and media and woemn are told they are awesome no matter what. The men and women who sees through this wins.

[@kevinmurphy3470]

And women still complain about the imaginary wage gap 🙄

[@mikelisteral7863]

doesnt matter if its imaginary or real. only matters if they can get the majority believing its real so they can get more free handouts

[@sarcodonblue2876]

Maybe people especially males need to look at this from the perspective of making connections and look into themselves and work on self improvement. Women are tired of men who consume pornography and can't relate on an emotional level and don't need to be married to live in society and don't want to anymore.

[@ashraile]

Entirely untrue, I was in fact too emotional and insecure and was resoundly rejected for it. Around social circles where I presented that I didn't give a damn about LTR or marriage, I did much better. Stop comparing emotionally unavailable Chad to the rest of us guys. The emotional types, you reject and ignore 100% of the time without exception. It's a great way to test a woman's character, just be always nice to them and see if (when) you get rejected. But that comes with a tradeoff. When the previously nice guy realises that women don't care about relationships until it's far too late for them (post wall 30s 40s), without exception, he adopts the same mindset that Chad does, since y'all didn't want relationships anyway. But what you females don't seem to understand is that without the relationship and family building aspect of a woman's character, she is effectively the same as a prostitute, and is viewed as such by men. And so a man has no reason to engage with such a person as an individual, because they choose to offer nothing of value. (Integrity, commitment, empathy, cherishment, positive reinforcement, compassion). So congrats, you did this to yourselves. Enjoy what comes next.

[@Fair-to-Middling]

6:55 That's a fallacy. though, that women 'need' to work in order to 'provide' for everyone else in the household. That's not always true. Staying at home, you earn to budget and you don't buy so much stuff. I remember feeding my family of four on less than $250 a month. We didn't have the biggest house on the block or a new car, and we definitely didn't go out to eat all the time. And yet, I got to see my son's first steps and hold him during the day when he didn't feel well. So, there are ways to make it work. And it's definitely worthwhile.

[@mr.rembrandt]

good point and great that your family was able to be so resourceful. but in reality, no one would agree that $250 is a healthy amount of money to feed a family of 4. your situation is completely anecdotal. They are having a conversation on consensus, not a rare occasions nobody would know about.

[@StrawberryAppleCream]

That's great I do think it comes down to choice most of the time.

[@manubishe]

In simpler terms, the influx of all women who did join the workforce made the common man earn less with his 9to5 job, which 50 years ago paid for a household.

[@anneb889]

Another issue is student loans. The push for women to go to college, often taking out massive student loans, almost forces them to keep working after kids. Hard to not think this isn’t by design…..

[@ubiwrongcomeatme3452]

Not arguing against your point here, but it's not a logical fallacy. It's just incorrect.

[@terriseverson3873]

3 things. #1 Coupling needs to begin young. Early to mid 20's. Both sides are less dug in and can work together to create resources. #2 I've heard it said that we each have only 2 relationships that can turn into LTR. Not this endless supply of dateable, marriageable encounters. #3 We can act as matchmakers for each other. It used to be more common and matchmaking can be resurrected.

[@Glenna851]

I think "coupling" can or maybe should happen even earlier! I met my husband at 14 and we've been together for almost 32 years and married for almost 25. It hasn't been easy but you have to work at it. Today's couple's give up way too easy.

[@terriseverson3873]

@@Glenna851 I agree and biologically we're built for it. Congratulations, you're amazing!

[@Syncrotron9001]

there's a significant underground movement to raise the AOC to 25 because of several brain development studies. Good luck "coupling" with someone you aren't legally allowed to approach until over a decade after they hit puberty.

[@metsfanal]

@@Glenna851 in the words of the Strokes "easy to say, easy to do, but it's not easy, well, maybe for you." I wanted to work on the 7 year relationship, she didn't, so it's over. Seems like it's not easy to keep women happy these days. 70% of divorces are started by women and twice as many lesbian marriages fail compared to gay male marriages. A lot of women have commitment issues.

[@Glenna851]

@@metsfanal I'm sorry that happened but remember that it's important to not generalize. Not all women are difficult to please. There is someone for everyone and you will find her, I'm convinced 😊.

[@Servant_of_Christ]

Come on, this is fantastic, million's of men who wanna see the world burn! 😂 I myself have stopped working, I will no longer contribute with my money or my skills to a society that has hated me for all my life because I'm a man. I will sit on some coast somewhere on my sailing yacht, have a beer and a chuckle watching the world burn! Moahahaa! 😁

[@Kurio71]

Grow a pair. Are you serious?

[@Servant_of_Christ]

@@Kurio71 Absolutely serious, and why would I wanna have two pairs?

[@davidpersson250]

I am tired of all the drama and emotional bagage these wimminz have

[@redpillsatori3020]

[@noo343]

Exactly why try they don't care they don't want me to succeed even if I do they're just going to try to take everything I get just burn it all down and piss on them when they cry

[@juniorleslie4804]

Both adults do not need to work outside the house. The government has to stop creating money and spending. That is driving up the cost of living.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

They both WANT to

[@daveyrogers7336]

I can tell you first-hand as a gay male who is no longer sexually active but when I was presented as feminized in a non-garish way...men are looking in other places than women. I am talking handsome, nice guys who would never be doing this if women were not, well, bat guano crazy unrealistic in what they are looking for. I'm pretty sure there's a lot of bro-ing going on as well, a lot more heteroflexibility. Women are always saying that without them men would be nothing but IMHO it's going to be the other way around. Men are just going to eventually get over the simping and just figure something else out when it comes to pair-bonding. Look at the explosion in foreign-born brides. Women are going to be over 40 and yelling "Why is that great guy with that little fill-in-the-blank?"

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Lol..too many men have discovered that once they bring those foreign brides back they become like all other women and leave them. Look into the realities before you jump to conclusions...or not it doesn't affect me

[@daveyrogers7336]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 There are also cases where the guy is just obnoxious and nothing pleases him. I'm sure that doesn't affect you either.

[@Syncrotron9001]

"ugh, all the computers here have been hacked by a virus. I know! ill get a computer from overseas its virus free, no way it will become infected once it arrives!" 10iq

[@daveyrogers7336]

@@Syncrotron9001 I think the point would be that the domestic computer is guaranteed to be infected, but there's a chance, depending on where the computer is made, that it's going to not be infected. It's going to still be a gamble, but a lot of men seem to be willing to make it.

[@anneb889]

I’ve often wondered why more men don’t find “release” with other men since the state of male/female relationships seems so poor. But then I realize I’m not attracted to women, so it’s likely not so easy for men who aren’t attracted to other men. Of course men have a much higher sex drive though, so many be they are more willing to overlook of there are attracted to other men or not.

[@50newdude]

Always remember who benefits the most from this dating apps? The ads and the ppl that own the company ,they don't want the best for the world just themselves

[@whywhenwhere4377]

These Apps have been given too much power for way too long. They are fraudulent, deceptive and down right break the law in many instances. They need to get a reality check from powers bigger than themselves.

[@ChattinBoxingWYB]

Male Game: Being confident, assertive, decisive, unpredictable, and having an abundance mindset. Female Game: Being submissive, cooperative, loyal, supportive and having a virtuous and wholesome image.

[@ThatAnnoyingBird]

It's a sad time when this needs to be explained.

[@mikelisteral7863]

modern man - xbox weed and porn modern woman - whoring to chad then turning to feminism when he doesnt commit

[@AnnLaustsen87]

Nope.

[@ChattinBoxingWYB]

@@AnnLaustsen87 Please explain?

[@AnnLaustsen87]

@@ChattinBoxingWYB I'm not playing the game. You can't lose if you don't play.

[@jasonpauldegraaf]

Remember ladies, never settle.

[@copperpumpkin2648]

My advice is not to even bother with a relationship, what I've seen from those around me and my own experience is that relationships often create more problems than they solve. The best advice I could give in order to cope with the desire for emotional and sexual intimacy is to work like crazy everyday on the things you are passionate about. Become so obsessed with winning competitions in the things you love that you can derive a sense of meaning in life form success and competition. I grew up realizing that a lot of people get into relationships only to feel heartbreak month after month, then to get into another relationship and indefinitely continue the cycle of self torment. Hence it's not worth it, as it's just hormones put in place by nature to get animals to breed. Focus on achievements, that's how I found meaning in life and have learned to not let lustful lnstincts effect my decision making.

[@memastarful]

Totally agree 👍

[@timothymiddleton6651]

Wise words. Not easy advice to follow when you are single and some bird throws herself at you!

[@copperpumpkin2648]

@@timothymiddleton6651 Ask yourself what are you passionate about, what did you dream of as a boy before you hit puberty? For me it was cooking and I never looked back.

[@raiklaub975]

"...as it's just hormones put in place by nature to get animals to breed..." true

[@Heyoka-gq4wl]

Humans crave intimacy

[@samanthaduggan9002]

Great to finally hear this said out loud. It does not elevate women to compare them to a male standard. I've a PhD in clinical neuropsychology and left academia to raise my own children. It is rather annoying to me that this choice is still seen as "lesser". I have to make my peace with it almost daily. Chris is right that the societal pressure to make a different choice is ever-present. Also, I married a top-notch man. Marriage protects me from my reduced income as a result of my choice to stay home and work only here and there as fit in with my family. My husband values my contribution to our family and everything he earns is ours.

[@davidw.5185]

Things will continue on the current trends. However, if there is a major economic upheaval there will be massive social unrest that will greatly effect the sexual marketplace. Right now these are first world problems but I think things are going to get Medieval in the future.

[@supern0is349]

Rollo tomasi's book should be mandatory at high school for all Boys Preventiva medicine (2 volume) literaly saved my life- i was at the brick of suicide because of a break up and that book opened up my eyes tô a whole new world i never thought possible

[@mohican19831]

What shocked you after ready his books.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

I'm even more shocked that anyone reads his books

[@supern0is349]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 beta detected

[@misutasutanto6312]

@@supern0is349 wow you must not have a father in your life

[@supern0is349]

@@misutasutanto6312 yes , my father died when i was 3 so?

[@luckymetal13]

As a first responder, Id say invest in a skilled nursing facility, because the majority of the population is going to be these cat ladies.

[@stephennelson4954]

Simultaneously if you wish to play the stocks invest in wineries, chocolatiers, and pet facilities.

[@justusmuller802]

Yes humans usually want more than they can have. This is true for women AND man.

[@marchelinenyala]

Thank you! Human issue not gender. Many men practice hypergamy, punching above their belt looks wise with girls

[@richardouvrier3078]

I think I was a semi-semi Chad in my 20s and 30s. I gave up and became a bachelor. I'm not very attractive now we I've gotten poorer and unfitter. It's good to be a semiChad.

[@mikelisteral7863]

i used real women for free sex in my twenties, but once free hd streaming porn really got popular i quit dating lol

[@GA5MA5KPON3]

The title is 100% true. I tried using a dating server on discord (I know, silly and not the best place to find a match) and the ration between genders was extremely off balance. There was about 15 males to 1 female. I'm not the best or the worst person, but definitely more competition nowadays.

[@NikosM112]

I'm gonna search for this discord server you are talking about, find it and post red and black pill video links on purpose and then leave the server 👌

[@Pslm91v14n15]

A well matched partner is way more important than just money or looks. A companion to live life with. My husband is a great life partner for me and I’m happy we married young. I couldn’t imagine trying to find someone now that I’m almost 30..

[@marchelinenyala]

Why are only women accused of practicing hypergamy?? Men never try to get with a girl much better looking than them in your world?????

[@fgcpeak9591]

we're much less likely to than wmn.

[@ChattinBoxingWYB]

Woman’s Attraction Criteria in Order of Importance: If it‘s Sex: 1:Status 2:Looks 3:Resources 4:Game When it comes to relationships: 1:Resources 2:Status 3:Game 4:Looks

[@jimbaxter8488]

I believe you have it backwards 1) looks 2) money 3) status

[@ChattinBoxingWYB]

@@jimbaxter8488 Na when it comes Sex it definitely status first. When it comes to marriage it's money first.

[@grantwithers]

pretty close anyway. might be a bit of switching of spots going on arguably.

[@Ghostrider-ul7xn]

Lol you got it wrong. Looks have always been on top for both sex and relationships. You have been duped by the lies peddled by society. If looks weren't such a priority for relationships, they why is the number of single men rising? Even in relationship focused apps like Bumble, even if you look like a 7 , you hardly get any matches. I literally see posts made by men on r/Bumble everyday. Its slightly different in real life dating but the gap is closing very fast.

[@ChattinBoxingWYB]

@@Ghostrider-ul7xn Money and status will always be at the top of every woman's list due to their hypergamous nature. If looks were the only thing that matter. Then you wouldn't get old and fat men like DJ Khaled, Rick Ross etc get laid would you with beautiful women? Also the whole pornstar, escort business wouldn't exist. If money and status didn't matter to women also. Furthermore you wouldn't get short men like Tom Cruise, Justin Bieber, Lil Wayne and Floyd Mayweather get women throwing themselves at them if looks were the only thing that mattered to women.

[@btuesday]

It used to be that a woman had to pick a man to marry at a very young age. There was very little dating. Young people don't marry anymore. It's non stop dating. So of course this is happening. It started with the pill

[@M0viLover]

"It started with the pill." Bingo. Now, people could have sex WITHOUT the likelihood of getting pregnant. Pregnancy = (ideally) a FAMILY - HUSBAND and wife, for child rearing. Hence the introduction of the term "body count.." And, the phrase "no longer has the ability to pair bond."

[@sarcodonblue2876]

Women are allowed to have a life and experiences and not have to belong to a man after belonging to her father and males are annoyed when they can't get laid

[@sarcodonblue2876]

What about the pornography men are watching?

[@btuesday]

@@sarcodonblue2876 You're right, and that's a good thing. Women should have choices. Feminism also gave men choices. Men no longer have to be trapped from a young age, working a miserable dead end job because society demands that a man take care of his family without excuses.

[@whywhenwhere4377]

Agreed the pill coupled with increasingly distorted feminism have fucked it.

[@robertcussen8039]

If you sacrificed modern luxuries then the woman could stay home but people want new cars, they want new expensive cellphones every year or two and they want to dine out all the time, you can't do that on one salary. The you can have it all motto is killing us!

[@manfrombritain6816]

this is very true, people CAN still afford this despite the mad increases in prices of things in recent decades

[@jimbaxter8488]

All of this has always been true- the 'beautiful people' operate in a privileged manner.

[@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756]

somewhat, the main difference is scope. As much as people want to say otherwise, actual groups and power centers were far more diverse in the past. its easier to be a "beautiful" 8 in a group of 100 people than an 8 in a group of 100,000

[@whywhenwhere4377]

The 80% of females operating in a privileged manner are certainly not all beautiful 🤩

[@alexavasquez1992]

I know an old cat lady who's happy as a clam and hangs with friends regularly. I moved to England to find that a lot of the elderly ladies have a whole network of friends they hang with all the time. I think women would rather spend time with their girlfriends than enter relationships. They seem to be happier that way.

[@everything...interesting]

Hopefully you're right, cuz there's gunna be a whole lot of em. Now if we could just figure out how to stop them from voting.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Of course, they have their social circles and are far from lonely. It's a fact many women would rather be single than settle for some loser dude .

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

@Everything Interesting If we could just figure out how to shut up the incels. U and your revenge incel fantasies. Silly u

[@Syncrotron9001]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 The biological fathers simply cant pay for all of the children they have made. It either enslave childless men or those kids go without.

[@everything...interesting]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 not an incel here - but enjoy your cats and shriveled ovaries

[@jeffrielly]

...meh, I don't really care anymore and thus have completely lost interest with most people, I mostly just focus on my self these days, too many people have become too narcsistic, which is a huge turn off for me and all this shit like "only fans", "Tinder", and "The Twatter" sure as hell aren't helping with that either. so I just mostly do stuff for me now, I mean I've tried all this self improvement stuff, and while it has helped me in various areas it still hasn't gotten me any attention from the ladies, there comes a point where you put so much work into something and you still can't reach one of your most desired goals that you just end up losing interest in that one particular goal. it's not my fault that I'm on the Autism, spectrum, and had to learn my social skills since socializing with people is not something that came naturally for me, hell I even went as far as studding alittle bit of Game and learned about things like IOIs and Shit Tests (which in and of themselves is an IOI) but even then It's still difficult due to some of the issues that come with being on the spectrum, focusing on my self may be a selfish thing to do, but if there is no one out there for me then I might as well just do that instead, I also have a dog since that right there is the closest thing anyone will ever get to true unnational love, I have considered volunteering at the local animal shelter however, I mean if no one wants to accept me, then perhaps i should give my self to those who need loving care more so than I do, and what better place to do so.

[@michelchamoun8466]

Hey I really understand how you feel and I can see myself so clearly in you when I read your comment. The world is upside down today and it feels like you almost have to be superhuman in order to be interesting. Do things for yourself and improve in the way you feel works best for you. Women never really liked me aswell even though I have tried being everything they wanted, at a certain point you give up and realize that this is not the way life is supposed to be. I’m much better today thanks to being able to block everybody’s thoughts and opinions and just focusing on what I want. Being thankful for how my genetics turned out because after all it could have been much worse haha. Stay strong and a lot of love to you 👍🏻

[@jeffrielly]

@@michelchamoun8466 do you pay attention to politics? I ask becase in someways all this stuff that is coming with "The Great Reset" I do kind of see it as sort of Karma FINALLY coming back around to give all of these people the firm kick in the ass that they long deserve, although I myself truly do not want it as it's going to mean great suffering for all of humanity, and myself suffering along side of them, I can't help but feel that way about it.

[@tezzo55]

This is the 20% 80% rule. "The 80-20 rule, also known as the Pareto Principle, is an aphorism which asserts that 80% of outcomes (or outputs) result from 20% of all causes (or inputs) for any given event. In business, a goal of the 80-20 rule is to identify inputs that are potentially the most productive and make them the priority." Doesn't mater what you do, 80% will go after the 20% and that's the way of the world. Get used to it.

[@whywhenwhere4377]

I think modern dating has skewed even the Pareto Distribution. More like 85-15 now

[@tezzo55]

@@whywhenwhere4377 Excellant.

[@AntoineDennison]

Many women prefer to share an alpha male or be alone rather than 'settle' for an average man. In addition, the government subsidizes single mothers by spreading the burden of child-rearing across society through taxation. This dynamic encourages women to pursue the most desirable men to progenate with and foots the taxpayer with the financial obligation that would otherwise be picked up by a faithful husband. The social safety net has unbridled women from the biological mandate to find and secure a reliable mate.

[@willusmaximus6985]

The trick is to go monk mode until shtf. They'll want you once they realize blue pill bob doesn't know how to use a machete

[@slothvr5752]

yessir or fire a gun, or feed off the wilds. that is our time, until then we train

[@Desiqnify]

I think women shouldn't just look at how much a guy is making now, they should see if he has drive, goals and motivation. That he's trying his best and working on his purpose. Finances are built slowly over time

[@vprez4925]

To be honest, being a full time stay at home mom sounds awful.

[@-whackd]

Yeah imagine having to love a child who looks like you all day

[@vprez4925]

@@-whackd Exactly.

[@vprez4925]

@@-whackd sounds awful 😂 its like being around my parents all day.

[@formepvp]

You just contain the children in a relatively safe environment so they don't accidentally injure themselves. You are then free to spend the day watching dramas on netflix and hang with the girls. Last thing to do is to neg your husband to do the chores when he returns home.

[@vprez4925]

@@formepvp sounds awful. I'd rather have a life.

[@N0Xa880iUL]

Time to get off the internet and touch some grass, see people IRL. Brb, or not.

[@mikelisteral7863]

go downtown and sniff some butts

[@JimmyMFP]

5:02 - men and women are fundamentally different, gender stereotype arguments aside, and that's actually completely fine. Really hit it on the head about how the male paradigm is seen as the standard life pattern everyone should be able to achieve; and yet, because of women's perception of inequality based more of lifestyle choices and realities, than on patriarchy, we see society trying to feminise men and the workplace. What we really need to do, and we should've done is - but leaders lacked the wisdom to think in such a way - post WW2 when all the women had been working whilst the men went off to fight, and then came back to take jobs away from women (largely) who had then adopted a male life pattern, industry and government leaders should have worked out a female life pattern outside of the home that enabled them to be workers and mothers. Instead, since then, we've had a battle of the sexes over workplace norms and gender expectations. Now would be a great time to work that one out.

[@jasperzanovich2504]

Well, there isn't much time later to figure that one out since it will resolve itself in a less than desirable way.

[@timmcm9538]

I think in a long last past human society faced a similar problem. They invented the convention of matrimony and preached their children that they must do this to survive even if it goes against their desires. These last 50 years we have tried to undo some of these things to right historical injustices and in the end produced a power keg of a problem. Being humans, we try to improve but learn over and over past truths. I'm not religious but having lived a number of decades, you see lots of patterns in life and in society.

[@MrZakatista]

In Australia, corporate women would take paid parental leave of 3-6 mths, with the option of 12 mths unpaid leave on top of that. Their employment roles must be kept open during that time. Many women have a second and third child after that. Promotion is on a gender quota basis.

[@MandoMTL]

lol. Guys. Save up that 50$ a week/month and get yourself pampered. Don't fall for the false romantization of relationships. In today's sociopolitical environment, it's a pipedream. Stay Savage.

[@zeitgeist5134]

"Women want a square jaw and a six pack." Hm-m-m. As if men don't judge (and rank on a scale of 1-10) women based on their looks. If men are suddenly far more anxious that their looks do not compete well in the sexual marketplace, I think that it has more to do with the advent of Tinder than with a change in (specifically) FEMALE culture. With Tinder, the initial decision is based solely on looks (swipe left, swipe right). This is toxic, no matter if the loser is male or female. Wit, insightfulness, integrity...none of such factors have a chance to come into play. I tell people that the most important quality in a mate is that he or she GETS YOUR JOKES. This has nothing to do with jawline or abdominal muscles, but it is critically important, and rewarding.

[@zeitgeist5134]

@@EspressDelivery It is a fundamental truth that male sexuality has a greater urgency than female sexuality. One does not treat a stallion the same way that one treats a mare. A wise woman regards men with compassion, instead of criticizing them. (I look upon the "Me Too" movement with a jaundiced eye.) My point in the comment above: The advent of Tinder has done appalling harm. It is cruelly reductive. It has escalated the priority of looks. And, yes, it has increased the imbalance in the sexual marketplace (Though the observation that women, with the advantage of less sexual urgency, are now more free to opt out...that's insightful.).

[@zeitgeist5134]

@@EspressDelivery Perhaps, in order to elucidate my point of view, it would be helpful to explain how I hooked up with my current husband. I met him through my sister twenty-odd years ago. My initial attraction to him arose from his courtliness. Does Tinder have a box that a man can check for courtliness? Courtly men would probably not even describe themselves as courtly in their written profile; they probably are unaware that they have this quality. Then I became aware of his intelligence and his wit. The fact that he is a Vietnam vet embittered by the war added a layer of moral seriousness (and was personally important to me because my brother died in Vietnam when I was in my very early teens). His conversation about his activism in environmental issues deepened my perception that he was a morally serious person. My husband is not bad looking, but he certainly does not have matinee idol looks. As for money, or future earning potential....when I met him he spent six months each year working as a raft guide (raft guides are notoriously penniless eccentrics, though, I admit, there is a definite glamor about the profession); the rest of the year he kept himself housed (on my sister's property, in a shack lacking running water and electricity) and fed by working part-time as a stable-hand on my sister's horse farm. (I liked the fact that he was highly skilled at working with animals. It bespoke wisdom and compassion.). And then I became aware of his sense of fun. Girls just wanna have fun. None of this could be communicated adequately in a Tinder profile. Not enough to click on a deeply subconscious level, not without face-to-face contact. Tinder is dehumanizing. I pity the people who believe that it is their only option. And he gets my jokes!! An endless source of delight. A quote from Nietzsche: "When marrying, ask yourself this question: Do you believe that you will be able to converse well with this person into your old age? Everything else in marriage is transitory." Tinder-matchmaking, with its shallow obsession with looks and money...is a recipe for divorce.

[@justlol7281]

The difference is that mens threshold for what they find attractive is much lower than womens. Think of it like this, on a scale of 1-10, men start to find most women attractive/dateable at about 4, whereas women start to find most men dateable at about 6-7.

[@zeitgeist5134]

@@justlol7281 That is an interesting analysis. It may only apply to Tinder. I still think that the current problem is caused by the reductive nature of Tinder; Tinder eliminates more subtle cues for attraction, such as courtliness. I do have heartfelt sympathy for men who find themselves swiped left on Tinder. It's dehumanizing. Alas, it is also a fact that Tinder has more male subscribers than female. All the more reason not to subscribe to Tinder. (Thank you for conversing with me. The crisis in the sexual marketplace is real.)

[@zeitgeist5134]

@@justlol7281 May I be so bold as to offer advice? First, learn to cook, the more sophisticated the cuisine the better. Good food is sexy. Second, keep your apartment/house as clean as possible. An exquisitely clean and orderly house is VERY sexy. (Eliminate all professional-sports-related decorations. Boring, boring, boring.) Third, acquire a cute, funny-looking LITTLE dog, and love it with all your heart. Little dogs are always funny, and funny is sexy. (I recommend something like a Brussels Griffon.). Having a funny-looking little dog also suggests that you have a warm, humorous personality. And then take your little dog to little-dog play dates. Lots of women.

[@courtneygillespie]

Yep....your right....couldn't agree more 🙄

[@someonesomeone25]

It doesn't matter. Nonhuman relationships are superior anyway. Make a tulpa, buy a doll, and wait for the bots.

[@mikelisteral7863]

most women nowadays have std's and just use men to get a free house,

[@sdneytaco2226]

ew

[@someonesomeone25]

@@sdneytaco2226 Are you addressing me?

[@noo343]

Exactly download a replica use the phone call get a Fleshlight and use your imagination it's better than a real woman

[@prettyboyjeremy]

It's the Disney effect on relationships If it's not a fairy tale I don't want it.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

That's what trad relationships are..it's all Disney

[@everything...interesting]

They all think they're princesses, and are going to get a prince. Meanwhile, the avg weight of a woman over 20 is now 174 lbs. At 5'4". And a 39" waist.

[@vklnew9824]

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