The TF1230 / Amiga 1200 P2 -IDE

[@novastb2]

As usual you saved the day Chris, was pissed cause it said nothing about removing that little top thin membrane top on the motherboard on the 1200. Thanks again!

[@ChuckyGang]

There is no space in the cpld to add a driver into the tf1230 it is not even space left to support PIO4.. it is made for low price that's it. custom kickstart is a workaround.. that controller is basically "free for you" and was about to be cut out the design. but was left there as "why not have as a 2nd controller. adding a eprom would add costs.. not much. but costs.. so this is in short meant as a low priced 030 solution for the 1200. if what is offered isn't ok enough there are other solutions out there in short. The only way to make the 1230 bootable without custom kickstart would be to make it replace the internal IDE. but as that would also disable the pcmcia this is not an option.

[@adamlips1711]

I totally agree ChuckyGang, cheap and fast without getting Hammered with the JENS tax!

[@danowood6799]

Hi Chris, a custom kickstart ROM is the way to go to have the ehide.device up and running at boot-up, as commented below by Chucky. This is a fairly simple process, adding the ehide.device to the kickstart ROM so it is loaded from the ROM at start-up. There is good guide how to create a custom ROM for the 1230 on the Exxos forum.

[@daishi5571]

"Family aid!" yep, many a family has been started that way :-)

[@adamlips1711]

I made a custom rom with Remus for mine and used a cheap Minipro programmer - and its amazing!

[@lg.bus114-Mario.]

Cheeers ;) beautiful A1200 , one day I will got one to ;) , thx Mr.Chris.

[@daskarman]

can't say anything negative about the oem membrane my lasted over 20 years , but the sordan replacement is great stuff good video Chris !

[@garyhart6421]

I got one of those stiff membranes (and his LED replacement) for my A600.

[@ClassicGamerB]

How to make a keyboard sandwich. Thanks for another great video!

[@edponpon]

Chris - are you familiar with a SATA to IDE adapter that will allow you to power/run a CD/DVD rom with your Amiga 1200? Also, if it is possible, what software would you need to make a standard CD/DVD rom drive operate on the A1200? Thanks.

[@ChrisEdwardsRestoration]

Depends on the os version. 3.9,3.1.4 and onward have built in cd support in sys storage, 3.0-3.1. Asimcdfs found on the archive dot org commodore amiga adf listing. But sata to ide may not do pio mode 0/1 that the old amiga is

[@cullmaster7361]

Another great Vid Chris 👍🏻 As others have said on here I too have a few of those replacement membranes. There is also a cheaper hard membrane version (around £10 cheaper) that you can also buy, but has the standard ribbon end on it, so no need to remove and loose the plastic keyboard clip. The only issue with the cheaper one is the connection on the membrane sticks out quite a bit and is dedicated for the A1200 only. I’m going to be starting to play around with the Vampire V2 1200 soon. This also has a built in IDE port, but what’s interesting is that it appears it speeds up the internal IDE on the 1200 board or you can use the IDE header in the Vampire to boot from 🤔 I’m guessing this is down to the FPGA this card uses.

[@MaverickM1]

Could someone help me out pls? I’ve purchased a tf1260 card but I do not have the ehide.device and the cpu speed tool. Is there a place to get those stuffs? Especially the device. I do have ks3.x and I would like to make a modded 3.x for make bootable my tf1260. Any info would be appreciated. Checked the tf forums and the most known Amiga forums as well without any luck.

[@ChrisEdwardsRestoration]

john hertell's website here: wordpress.hertell.nu

[@MaverickM1]

@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration thanks for the reply. Checked Chucky’s site (I already knew it because of an older Apollo1240 to 060 post) but on that wordpress I wasn’t able to find any tf product infos/files. The most recent post is about reamiga stuff and more than 1 year old. I can’t understand, how the ehide can be such a top secret stuff, there is absolutely no info at all to find. After tons of google searches there are only results about tf1260 tests or product infos saying “you will need ehide.device to boot the onboard ide” Great. It must be some Jedi technology stuff, maybe I have to find a specific R2 droid on the Tatooine for it. :D. INow I am really glad I kept my good old Apollo 060 and 4xeide buffered ide card.

[@ChrisEdwardsRestoration]

Its not email me and ill send you the files you need

[@MaverickM1]

@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration thanks man. It would be great to get them via email. Where can I get your email address? Tried to find out but I am on tablet, maybe some limitations here because of the application. Anyway, your videos seems very informative, you got a new subber (independently from tf files or anything else).

[@ChrisEdwardsRestoration]

Its on my about me main youtube page. If your on a phone use the web app and view yt from that

[@philiphandforth4390]

Hey Chris thanks for the video, helped me setup the e-ide on my tf1230 👍 I am having an issue with it freezing though and I'm wondering if you had any similar issues, I'm using the same ide to sd adapter you're using in this video and everything sets up fine but it freezes up when there's heavy disk activity. I can reliably make it freeze simply by copying files from a cf card. The internal ide using scsi.device works fine it's absolutely rock solid but the enhanced ide is no go for me right now so any clue as to what's wrong would be a massive help.

[@ChrisEdwardsRestoration]

I made a duplicate of my entire system to the ehide side and it boots from it. Well it did when i tested it could be the cf card type. I use small 4gb industrials

[@philiphandforth4390]

I'm using a SanDisk ultra sd 8gb sd card on one of those little sd adapters like the one you use in your video it works fine as a hd for my a500 and on the a1200's ide but just refuses to work on the tf1230 ide, looks like I might have to invest in some more adapters....

[@ChrisEdwardsRestoration]

@@philiphandforth4390 there all picky aren't they. ..

[@josteinkallevik]

Thank you for just showing this ehide stuff and how you might get to use it:) Im shure im not gonna need it since it is kinda not convinient way of setting it up:) just roll of the internal ide is good for now. How did the dinner turn out? ;)

[@johnwiesen4440]

I got one of the keyboard membrain in my A1200 it works very nice. I got a spare one so if my one goes bad on my other A1200 or my A500 but the way my luck goes I will never need it.

[@HoldandModify]

Good video and I was very curious. As I’ve been unable to get the IDE to work on my TF1260 despite John sending me the driver. HMMMMMMM. Me, cursed? NEVER. ;) My use case was to boot and use 1200s native IDE for Workbench. Then have all my apps and other data on the TD1260s IDE. A “Work:” type partition. But alas, shit don’t work SON!

[@sarreqteryx]

ok, what is eHide?

[@ChrisEdwardsRestoration]

The name of the scsi driver for the tf1230/1260 series cards

[@sarreqteryx]

@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration right, but what the H? EIDE = Enhanced IDE. does the H indicate anything special over EIDE, or is it just a name.

[@ChrisEdwardsRestoration]

Just its name

[@brostenen]

Yup.... 700/900 kb/s was fast in 1992. In 1995 I had a PC (vlb based) that game 1.2 mb/s. That was fast by normal standard. I repeat 1995.

[@a4000t]

Not really, a stock A3000 was 3MB/s+ in 1989. Some good accelerators with scsi for amiga could do up to 10MB/s (warp engine,blizzard etc). The cyberstorm MK3/csppc scsi would do near 40MB/s. Ide was always terrible on amiga. They have managed vampire ide to do reasonable speed.

[@brostenen]

@@a4000t About the same in Dos on PC, if you ran SCSI. It is IDE that I am talking about.

[@a4000t]

@@brostenen Fair enough,i have a ICD trifecta LX side car for A500,it has ide and manages 3.5MB/s on a stock 68000 A500.

[@brostenen]

@@a4000t That is good transfer speed. The PC that I had back then, was the following config. VLB motherboard. 486dx2-66. 8mb Ram. CL-5428-VLB GFX. Iwill Side JR Pro VLB Controller. Quantum HDD. The issue with SCSI on Dos, is that some SCSI drivers will need conventional mem to load in, and you really wanted to load them high. But VLB controllers were the thing to have and not ISA.