The Three Reasons Starmer Beat Sunak in the Polls

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Despite a rocky start to his tenure, the Labour Party under Starmer has risen to maintain a significant poll lead over the Tories. So in this video, we dive into the most recent polling, the three key events that shaped it and why this is good for Labour.
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@Jsnwrd
@Jsnwrd Жыл бұрын
I'll give you 13 years of reasons
@adhiwicaksono6149
@adhiwicaksono6149 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry the labour can still eck out a lose with "totally with the union" Starmer at the helm
@travelswithmybelly
@travelswithmybelly Жыл бұрын
Best comment.
@noeyes6151
@noeyes6151 Жыл бұрын
I don't like starmer or sunak or the con really at all, but he does not inspire change, confidence went out the window when the world went lockdown, so thats by the by, but they are both personalities, so ultimately worthless
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Жыл бұрын
Says something that it only took a few years of the last Labour government before committing to 13 years of conservatism till enough of the voters forget about the last Labour government.
@Jsnwrd
@Jsnwrd Жыл бұрын
@@SaintGerbilUK media manipulation and converatives constantly blaming labour for their own issues
@Steviebond2
@Steviebond2 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget about 13 years of incompetence. There's a reason why the 1997 Election went the way it did, the voters just got fed up with them, and it looks like we're heading towards that feeling of wanting to see the back of them again.
@callumroper7251
@callumroper7251 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully people learn from history and it's permanent this time around
@kingthomasthehun8408
@kingthomasthehun8408 Жыл бұрын
Nah 1997 was caused by the ERM crisis major refused to sack the chancellor so voters blamed him and the party so they lost their repution for economic compentence Truss got pushed out almost instantly when the economy recovers the conservatives will also recover the conservatives wont lose that rep this time since Truss was removed unlike Major
@theuglykwan
@theuglykwan Жыл бұрын
@@callumroper7251 One party permanently in govt leads to nothing good.
@callumroper7251
@callumroper7251 Жыл бұрын
@@theuglykwan I meant in terms of keeping the Tories out permanently
@socratic-programmer
@socratic-programmer Жыл бұрын
Are you seriously suggesting he was to blame?
@Itchyknee88
@Itchyknee88 Жыл бұрын
As a Scot who is anti Scottish independence and definitely not an SNP supporter, I have to admit that if the UK ends up with another Tory govt. because working class English people are gluttons for punishment, then I may reconsider my view on independence. The absolute disaster that is Liz Truss, should be enough to convince people.
@theuglykwan
@theuglykwan Жыл бұрын
I'm same as you. I want to stay in the union, i just want them to change the electoral system so whoever wins a plurality doesn't get a stonking majority.
@danielfield2570
@danielfield2570 11 ай бұрын
As a Englishman I really want Scotland to stay but I honestly cannot blame you for wanting to leave. 19 years of Tory incompetence and I’m still astounded that 30% of brits want to vote for them. Typical Middle English and upper class toffs who are either too stupid to see how bad they run the country or too rich to care.
@sillypuppy5940
@sillypuppy5940 11 ай бұрын
@@theuglykwan Parties getting stonking majorities is the most dangerous thing for democracy. We need the question "should we do this?" asked every time.
@dafyddthomas7299
@dafyddthomas7299 11 ай бұрын
Don't worry Labour will cake walk the forthcoming elections - unless they really stuff up.
@Ag3nt0fCha0s
@Ag3nt0fCha0s 11 ай бұрын
Englishman here. If you guys go independent then I wish you l the best because we seem intent on destroying ourselves.
@Medic.Fitness
@Medic.Fitness Жыл бұрын
Did we forget about Liz Truss?
@sandeshvantveen
@sandeshvantveen Жыл бұрын
Who?
@Wislehorn
@Wislehorn Жыл бұрын
I unironically, genuinely did...
@bearcubdaycare
@bearcubdaycare Жыл бұрын
One of the more memorable PMs in recent years.
@lucas4019
@lucas4019 Жыл бұрын
Who?
@rizkyadiyanto7922
@rizkyadiyanto7922 Жыл бұрын
​@@lucas4019 your mom
@tt-ew7rx
@tt-ew7rx Жыл бұрын
So Starmer is less popular than his party, and Sunak is more popular than his party.
@monkeyman4556
@monkeyman4556 11 ай бұрын
Sunak has the Indian votes. Starmer as the votes simply by being English
@Jay_Johnson
@Jay_Johnson 10 ай бұрын
@@monkeyman4556 Rishi Sunak is English.
@roygoodwin1259
@roygoodwin1259 8 ай бұрын
Starmer does Not have the English vote. Some of us have lived with Labour Governments, the last Labour government left a note saying no money left. Remember Blair and his illegal war,that is what has led to mass migration.
@roygoodwin1259
@roygoodwin1259 8 ай бұрын
​@@Jay_Johnson Sunak is Asian. English is a nationality. He may be British but Not ENGLISH.
@Jay_Johnson
@Jay_Johnson 8 ай бұрын
@@roygoodwin1259 He was born in Southampton and has lived his entire life in England. Boris Johnson wasn't even born in the UK.
@macbitz
@macbitz Жыл бұрын
This is what Gordon Murray used to do. In a race he'd say so-and-so has a clear win, can't lose. That would be the kiss of death as the front runner would then crash or explode!
@GeriatricFan1963
@GeriatricFan1963 Жыл бұрын
Legendary F1 car designer Gordon Murray?
@HexaSquirrel
@HexaSquirrel Жыл бұрын
Cool to see a fellow Murray fan here!
@Quantum-1157
@Quantum-1157 11 ай бұрын
Shutting down EU immigration and replacing it with 5 times larger unchecked and rampant immigration from one non-EU ‘jewel in the crown’ country didn’t work for Tories! 😂
@RobespierreThePoof
@RobespierreThePoof 11 ай бұрын
The Tories won't be in power much longer
@patrickmccutcheon9361
@patrickmccutcheon9361 10 ай бұрын
I don’t think all the people arrived in dinghies are from India.
@Quantum-1157
@Quantum-1157 10 ай бұрын
@@patrickmccutcheon9361 look it up : 500,000 Indians have reached the UK last 2 years (not counting ‘students’ who eventually brought their immediate family as well!) and roughly 100,000 ‘boat people’ reached the country, do the math! Also India has been trying to convince the last 3 PMs that Indians should get visas on arrival to the UK and also fast track ‘settlement’ visas as it will ‘help boost the british economy’! Well 10 people from UK will settle in india and 1 million more from india will come here to ‘boost’ the economy. Google it : Indian PM has been pushing to dump Indians here for sometime now.
@ayush885
@ayush885 10 ай бұрын
​@@Quantum-1157 I looked it up, you might want to revise the figures. The number of Indians entering illegally is about 200-250 per month, which makes the total for 2 years at 6000, not 100,000. Obviously illegal immigration is a big problem, but the source lies in Afghanistan, Syria, and a few other muslim countries.
@Quantum-1157
@Quantum-1157 10 ай бұрын
@@ayush885 😂😂😂😂 6,000 Indians 😂😂😂😂 in 2 years! 😂😂😂😂😂 go back to watching frivolous Bollywood movies! There’s 6,000 Indians a month who overstay their visit visas and claim to be persecuted in india for their sexual orientation! There’s 6,000 Indians who are entering the UK as ‘students’ every year and then calling over their dependent family members every year! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@DeclanZapala
@DeclanZapala Жыл бұрын
Interesting representation of the figure 39%
@EmaryTegan
@EmaryTegan Жыл бұрын
Moving like the Lib Dems
@matthewjalovick
@matthewjalovick Жыл бұрын
Do you think he meant to say 59%? I noticed that too. It was weird and manipulative if not.
@EmaryTegan
@EmaryTegan Жыл бұрын
@@matthewjalovick ah, You may be right.
@josephtebay
@josephtebay 11 ай бұрын
1:29 That 39% looks a lot like above 50% honestly
@RipCityBassWorks
@RipCityBassWorks Жыл бұрын
I'm skeptical: recent history has seen UK voters voting for literally anyone but Labour...
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Жыл бұрын
Well I'm at anyone but Labour or the Conservatives.
@groot6830
@groot6830 Жыл бұрын
The Con push the populist lines anyone but Labour, but that lie is being seen for what it is and now it's "anyone but the Con"
@watchamacarcess1
@watchamacarcess1 Жыл бұрын
@@SaintGerbilUK I can’t say I blame you but sadly this mentality will result in another Tory government
@matty7758
@matty7758 Жыл бұрын
@@SaintGerbilUK well that's better for labour than a vote for the tories. I reckon labour will have to form a coalition with the lib dems. Probably not a bad option
@SSJfraz
@SSJfraz Жыл бұрын
They'll be voting for Keir Starmer, not Labour. Labour won't be in this election.
@utwhaleandash
@utwhaleandash Жыл бұрын
The Tories will be asking for 19 years in government an the next election. Its time for change and the Tories who need to be put in the wilderness to have a long hard look at themselves.
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Жыл бұрын
True but the answer isn't labour who are basically the same.
@zenouxbeauty
@zenouxbeauty Жыл бұрын
Why does it have to be 13 years only? What matters is how Uk nation is satisfied with that ruling party. Labour could still be in power now but they blew it in 2010 and Tory took over. Starmer will not win general elections for he is a non PM Material. Sunak will still be our British Prime Minister after general elections
@zenouxbeauty
@zenouxbeauty Жыл бұрын
So you think Starmer can tackle economy when he has no plan how to do it. These are deluded voters. Wait till end of 2023 like what PM said all those panicking now will realise Labour is worse on economy. There was an expert for finance who even mentioned that Sunak is the right one to tackle our economy like he is doing now unlike Starmer who is rated the no morals leader with no competence in his leadership. Sunak knows our economy better than any other leaders. Who can make Starmer win general elections? This is general elections.
@groot6830
@groot6830 Жыл бұрын
@@SaintGerbilUK Labour isn't the same. That's Russian propaganda "they are all the same"
@groot6830
@groot6830 Жыл бұрын
@@zenouxbeauty LOL
@Inkyminkyzizwoz
@Inkyminkyzizwoz 11 ай бұрын
When a party have been in power this long (whoever it is), there seems to be a natural tendency for the electorate to get bored and feel it's time for a change
@holdenennis
@holdenennis 11 ай бұрын
The Japanese Liberal Democratic Party would like a word.
@randomlygeneratedname7171
@randomlygeneratedname7171 11 ай бұрын
@@holdenennisThe Japanese are an exception. That culture had thousands of years of the ideal strongman rule. The population will take a generation to open up to the idea of dare changing “loyalties” that easily.
@therandomoguy3809
@therandomoguy3809 Жыл бұрын
The start of the video putting forward the idea starmer has led the claw back of a 10 point gap is hilarious. Being leader while the Tories implode and actively gaining a lead are two massively different things.
@Anthony-xd1lj
@Anthony-xd1lj Жыл бұрын
the tories mtie be imploding but at least they are trying to stop labour giving our coutry away like they did in the mid 2007 to 2010
@MegaGuy2010
@MegaGuy2010 Жыл бұрын
@Anthony giving the country away in what way exactly? I bet your only evidence of this is some drunk pub guy saying "they're taking our jobs" before spending he's dole money on another drink!
@rogerpenroset.blaine4233
@rogerpenroset.blaine4233 Жыл бұрын
​@@Anthony-xd1lj do u know about the great recession?
@mattevans4377
@mattevans4377 Жыл бұрын
​@@Anthony-xd1lj As far as I can tell, they actually doubled down of Labour policy. They just claim the opposite.
@theblackswordsman9951
@theblackswordsman9951 Жыл бұрын
People hated Corbyn. He probably would have found a way to make Labour look even worse than the Tories. Starmer has done well to avoid controversy and gain swing voters.
@groot6830
@groot6830 Жыл бұрын
Starmer's polling represents a change as people are considering him the next PM. There is a distinct difference in concept of being just "the opposition leader" to being "the next PM".
@kingthomasthehun8408
@kingthomasthehun8408 Жыл бұрын
agreed in autum 2024 when memories of Truss and Johnson have faded and the economy (predictedly) will be doing a lot better voter will choose the conservatives not labour a bit like what a 1978 elction would have looked like
@Outside85
@Outside85 Жыл бұрын
@@kingthomasthehun8408 But what does it do even if Sunak can stand up and say the economy is doing better if people don't see any of it in their daily lives?
@kingthomasthehun8408
@kingthomasthehun8408 Жыл бұрын
@@Outside85 In case you havent noticed inflation is effecting people's daily lives and its likley be much lower next autum, it must also be noted unemployment is and is likley to remain at its lowest since the '70s if the us '22 midterms are any indication that will be very benifcial to the tories
@Outside85
@Outside85 Жыл бұрын
@@kingthomasthehun8408 Like I said, that the economy is doing well doesn't mean anything to the average person if wagers are still being suppressed and shortages continue to drive prices up.
@kingthomasthehun8408
@kingthomasthehun8408 Жыл бұрын
@@Outside85 again inflation is going down, thats what drives real wage supression and shortages in autum 2024 it will be lower and unemployment will likley remain at a historic low. tell me how low unemployment and disinflation doesnt affect the "average person"
@johnburrows3385
@johnburrows3385 Жыл бұрын
Great clear concise analysis 👌
@StewartWalker-hy1eo
@StewartWalker-hy1eo Жыл бұрын
Anyone would beat the Tory party now for what they have done but Labour aren’t going to do well as many people have had enough of both of them now
@nathanaelsmith3553
@nathanaelsmith3553 Жыл бұрын
I'll pass on the bowl of shit and just have the shit sandwich please waiter.
@KDLessAchievable
@KDLessAchievable Жыл бұрын
Vote lib dem. Force a hung parliament, then strong arm Labour into offering voting reform in exchange for a coalition. That's my hope.
@vicarious7858
@vicarious7858 Жыл бұрын
@@KDLessAchievable That's my plan. Seems Lib Dems are now left of Labour too. A sentence I never thought I would say...
@ripvanwinkle6557
@ripvanwinkle6557 11 ай бұрын
@KDLessAchievable The Lib Dems are just as bad. The entire Political Class is corrupt. Most of them are in with the WEF... We need something radical to save this country. And we need it ASAP.
@ab-ym3bf
@ab-ym3bf Жыл бұрын
"Labour under Starmer has risen... " Nah, it's just the conservatives going down fast and deep thst makes Starmer About come floating on top. Enough people just going for Labour to get rid of the fascists isn't a sign of strength of Labour.
@bluegoose7832
@bluegoose7832 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's really just a "I don't care if you win, I just need the tories to lose" situation
@learnchinese18
@learnchinese18 Жыл бұрын
@@bluegoose7832 Yes, you have summed it up perfectly.
@Noel-ji8nm
@Noel-ji8nm Жыл бұрын
@@learnchinese18 No
@thomasbootham2707
@thomasbootham2707 Жыл бұрын
To call the current conservatives fascists is so misleading the current conservatives want to get rid of regulations and give corporations more power which fascism goes against they are corporatists not fascists
@groot6830
@groot6830 Жыл бұрын
Both is true The Con have been exposed for destroying the UK And Starmer has given the electorate a much more appealing alternative, as an opposition should.
@BobBob-cn1yy
@BobBob-cn1yy Жыл бұрын
All w e f puppets
@razabadass
@razabadass 3 күн бұрын
Thanms
@jamesl2846
@jamesl2846 11 ай бұрын
The WEF runs the Westminster casino and as they say the house always wins. The house of Klaus that is.
@importedmusic
@importedmusic Жыл бұрын
And yet he can't even explain what a woman is. How utterly embarrassing.
@wolfen210959
@wolfen210959 Жыл бұрын
Oh I expect he knows full well what a woman is, but if he dares to say it he'd be hounded by the progressive morons on twatter, and the tory media, of course.
@English_Dawn
@English_Dawn Жыл бұрын
Which party wins the Red Wall is likely to form a government. It's pure mathematics. Labour heartland is London, the metropolitan cities and some university towns. Conservative heartland is the Shires. Whoever wins the RW will have a massive advantage. How fast the Scottish National Party caves is also important.
@theuglykwan
@theuglykwan Жыл бұрын
So red wall is the UK equivalent to the US rust belt swing states!
@kingthomasthehun8408
@kingthomasthehun8408 Жыл бұрын
i dont think so labour in 2017 won (and retain) some remain tory seats such as canterbury i think its safe to say these seats will go blue again
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Жыл бұрын
We have to get out of this red team/blue team problem and realize they are both awful and more or less the same. Unfortunately we seem to have imported the US binary thinking when it comes to politics. Take a look at a smaller parties manifesto and see if any of them better suits you.
@wolfen210959
@wolfen210959 Жыл бұрын
Sigh, Tory troll alert.
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Жыл бұрын
@@wolfen210959 weird how I'm against the Torys and think they are awful, yet you think I'm a Tory troll? No you are exactly the problem I'm actually talking about.
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Жыл бұрын
@@wolfen210959
@theuglykwan
@theuglykwan Жыл бұрын
US binary thinking is far worse. While we are still 2 party system we do have some 3rd parties winning seats, forming coalitions often at lower levels and some councils controlled by neither of the 2 parties. Voting smaller party may not be wise for the general unless they have a chance of winning in your area. In my area, it is SNP or Tory for the general. I'm in Scotland and every other election is conducted by some form of PR so I do vote for the party i like most of the time
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Жыл бұрын
@@theuglykwan oh that's very true and I'm quite happy that 3rd parties get in from time to time, however we do seem to be heading for a more polarized voting choice.
@wilnerolivier7971
@wilnerolivier7971 11 ай бұрын
Remember when there were talks about Labour sacking Starmer?? Looks like that has been put to rest not because of him or the party as a whole, but because of the Tories self imploding.
@mrmr446
@mrmr446 Жыл бұрын
No mention of the media coverage of his predecessor? Almost none of it was positive and many since have denied that they voted for the Tories but against labour. The last election was a classic of FPTP in that less than 40% of the vote, not much more than thirty taking turnout into account, resulted in a large majority for the Tories when over half the electorate didn't vote for them.
@noeyes6151
@noeyes6151 Жыл бұрын
Rather an illegal war than high mortgage👍
@mrmr446
@mrmr446 Жыл бұрын
@@noeyes6151 Very little mention in most of UK media of the fact that tax rises since the last election were higher than those proposed by Corbyn, with interest rates as they are the same for mortgages.
@glassmuxxic
@glassmuxxic Жыл бұрын
‘Taking turnout into account’ is laughable. FPTP has existed in some form for over a century, its current form for 7 decades. By all means pretend it’s the electoral system, and not the fact their economic plans (mass requisition, compulsory purchase and/or nationalisation of shares at below-market value - also known as ‘theft’) would have made Liz Truss’s impact on markets look minimal by comparison. There is a reason the Labour Party ran wargames at their conferences in the late 2010s for a run on the pound and mass exodus of capital from the country in the event they got elected - it may be worth asking why.
@mrmr446
@mrmr446 Жыл бұрын
@@glassmuxxic Evidently Truss didn't run those wargames and assuming that policies would have made it through the House of Commons seems a stretch. Of course it's the electoral system if a large majority of seats doesn't need even half the votes. The media coverage was unique in its' one sidedness in my lifetime, given how incompetent the Tories have been ignoring the way it was covered just seems bizarre.
@wolfen210959
@wolfen210959 Жыл бұрын
@@glassmuxxic You describe re-nationalisation as theft, which is funny, seeing as all of the national assets were virtually given away to private, mainly foreign, business interests, who promptly sacked half of the staff, raised prices almost overnight, invested nothing whatsoever in the businesses, and creamed off £billions at our expense. That is an example of theft, what should be done is simply re-aquiring what was corruptly sold for a song.
@Brokout
@Brokout Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, not voting for Labour (no matter what you think of them) is a vote for the tories
@MikeyPFilm
@MikeyPFilm Жыл бұрын
Labour is promising to be a competent version of the Tories, I'd much rather have a minority government of collapsed conservative party, than a centre-right labour party, that is shaping up to remove any left wing influence it has, with a majority.
@KDLessAchievable
@KDLessAchievable Жыл бұрын
And that in itself is the problem! We need voting reform and Starmer is unwilling to support it, despite Labour membership overwhelmingly voting in favor of it. Unless Labour officially support voting reform, the ideal outcome for me at the next election is a hung parliament, allowing a smaller party who supports voting reform to sway the outcome.
@michealhunt6607
@michealhunt6607 Жыл бұрын
Oh well, maybe the Labour party should listen instead of constantly attacking their own base then eh Back to the greens for me, i'm not being stuck in this abusive relationship. If the tories get back in it's THEIR fault and THEIR fault alone
@timonsolus
@timonsolus Жыл бұрын
Well, to be fair, it depends on the constituency. In many Tory rural seats, the only realistic opposition is the Lib Dems - Labour is very unpopular and doesn’t stand a chance in such seats.
@some30yearoldvirginwhofant46
@some30yearoldvirginwhofant46 Жыл бұрын
Precisely the fundamental flaw with fptp voting systems. Generations of choosing between the lesser of two evils obviously can only result in evil winning. Neither of the major nor midling parties can be trusted to rule, as such you not only have an ethical but practical reason to shift political power from incompetant parties towards citizens through direct democracy, scrapping of local elections etc. Ofc it wont happen, as the only ones whom hold enough political capital to make these changes are the tories and labour, and both have more to lose than gain from a more democratic system. And so, were just fucked👍
@robotboy370
@robotboy370 10 ай бұрын
The bad news never ends. Granted, people aren’t spoiled for choices but Kier Starmer is scary and smart.
@juj298
@juj298 Жыл бұрын
We are Not That Desperate.
@davidmcculloch8490
@davidmcculloch8490 Жыл бұрын
Our undemocratic electoral system requires tactical voting. Currently we have a choice of Tory or Tory light. PR is overdue and we need to push Labour to support it. (Lib Dems and Greens already do btw) We need to get the Tories out after 13 years of misery.
@phooogle
@phooogle Жыл бұрын
PR ends up with mass coalitions who don't agree with themselves, verses other coalitions who don't agree with you. Essentially you get a hung parliament forever. I know there are examples where it works but you need to do more than throw PR in to fix the HoC.
@yardh
@yardh Жыл бұрын
I think there are many people like me, who agree with you 100% but don't believe Labour desire PR in any way or shape. It won't work for the party. It will destroy it. They are both as bad as each other in every way. Totally up their own back benches.
@prometheus7387
@prometheus7387 Жыл бұрын
​@@phooogle well either that or you end up with a two party oligarchy. I'd rather take the chance of a decent government, with people having greater control, than a 2-party oligarchy which will definitely suck
@davidmcculloch8490
@davidmcculloch8490 Жыл бұрын
@@phooogle PR is democratic and consensus mitigates extremes. In simple terms, the buggers can do less damage. More! Of course I want more but won't write a dissertation on here. Fixing our unfit parliamentary system and standards of behaviour are also essential.
@KDLessAchievable
@KDLessAchievable Жыл бұрын
Agree that we need a more representative voting system, but pure PR gives a lot of power to parties. I'd prefer a proportional system where you vote for specific candidates rather than parties, and allows multiple candidates from the same party to run in the same area without stealing votes from one another. IMO I think an STV system with multi-seat constituencies achieves this best. But TBH I'll take anything over FPTP.
@rainerzufall42
@rainerzufall42 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't sure, if the news part of the video was over! ;-)
@pirate833
@pirate833 10 ай бұрын
Labour are not beating them by their own efforts the tories are giveing them it.
@mattevans4377
@mattevans4377 11 ай бұрын
A talking toaster could beat the Tories right now. And Labour could STILL find a way to lose the next election. I wish i was joking.
@Jay_Johnson
@Jay_Johnson 10 ай бұрын
The Tories had the same poll lead in April 2017, needless to say an uncharismatic leader was enough to tank the support to an election loss.
@metamedia-channel
@metamedia-channel 11 ай бұрын
*On the notes of Bo Burnham's song* They are really gonna make me vote for Keir Starmerrrr
@sillypuppy5940
@sillypuppy5940 11 ай бұрын
One thing to consider is that Labour can gain power more readily in a hung parliament than can the Conservatives. That's because most of the smaller parties would be willing to enter into a coalition or C&S arrangement with them. This is not the case with the Tories - not even the Unionist will bite this time. Labour don't even need to be the largest party.
@patrickmccutcheon9361
@patrickmccutcheon9361 10 ай бұрын
As FPTP benefits Labour more than it does the Tories, an overall majority is on its way. Question is what will they do with it. Remember how Labour left the economy in 1979 and 2010.
@michaelellis7326
@michaelellis7326 4 ай бұрын
All the more reason to vote REFORM !
@condorone1501
@condorone1501 Жыл бұрын
Ireland is part of the European Union not the UK.
@condorone1501
@condorone1501 Жыл бұрын
@@user-he9ml3if8n It took us 800 years of occupation to kick you lot out. We would never dream of rejoining an abusive relationship.
@peterkirby2771
@peterkirby2771 Жыл бұрын
Let’s tell the truth. Labour will win because the tories are so corrupt, But Sir Starmer has the same policies as the tories and Starmer is as dull as dishwater
@wakey87
@wakey87 Жыл бұрын
Labour will win because the SNP are curropt. If there is a coalition with the SNP and labour sell off Scotland for a chance at the top job they will never win an election ever again. Small price to pay to purge Socialism from England tbh.
@decimal1815
@decimal1815 11 ай бұрын
People are so sick of the conservatives they would vote for anything to get rid of them. UK is in a complete mess after 13 years of conservative chaos.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 11 ай бұрын
Here's a thought: why not just get rid of right wing politics? It always leads to war. Far left is a respond to far right shenanigans it doesn't exist otherwise.
@00dude3
@00dude3 Жыл бұрын
Remember when Labour and Tories voted through parliament to sack 100k nurses for not getting vaccinated and did the same to care workers. No party who supports that will get my vote
@CKW10001
@CKW10001 Жыл бұрын
Was in Wales a few days ago and everything is so much more expensive than Ireland 😵‍💫
@HazaraAfguk
@HazaraAfguk 9 ай бұрын
Doesn’t matter who’s in charge we’re all fooked mate 😆
@Sollatimer-Ed.southeast-
@Sollatimer-Ed.southeast- 11 ай бұрын
Labour hasn't done anything. The gain is because of the fall of the Tories, not the rise in popularity of the Labour Party.
@MrMalcovic
@MrMalcovic 11 ай бұрын
Could there be a coalition next time?
@utwhaleandash
@utwhaleandash Жыл бұрын
God i miss the days of william hague, Iain Duncan Smith and Michael Howard leading the Tories into the wilderness. It is happening at the next election.
@Matthew-bu7fg
@Matthew-bu7fg Жыл бұрын
and yet all three of those had more dignity and integrity than Cameron, Johnson, Truss
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Жыл бұрын
Funny you don't mention Blair... Also didn't the people who you're looking up to create the 1977 Winter of discontent.
@theuglykwan
@theuglykwan Жыл бұрын
Who is going to be the equivalent of Hague this time round? Michael Gove? If only the Reform Party splits the vote with the Conservative Party like in the 93 Canadian election. That reduced their Conservative Party that was in government to 2 seats! Their split continued for about a decade before they merged and took another cycle or so to win back power.
@jalpaca
@jalpaca Жыл бұрын
Part of the nebula transition for this video was rough
@ElliOatIBix
@ElliOatIBix Жыл бұрын
In summary, labour are only in poll position because conservatives aren’t doing well. Not because labour have good policies or can do actually do any better
@utwhaleandash
@utwhaleandash Жыл бұрын
Labour got bad after 2007 and made the unelectable Tories electable again. Your point???
@Jay_Johnson
@Jay_Johnson 10 ай бұрын
I think there will be a poll rally come an election. The are so many Conservatives saying don't know right now as they hate all the scandals but in the end they will still vote Tories.
@Etheoma
@Etheoma Жыл бұрын
Like according to polling only 24% of people care about small boats, so... Not the issue it is made out to be in the media.
@imrollinb1500
@imrollinb1500 Жыл бұрын
1. Boris Jhonson 2. Liz truss 3. All of above
@nathanaelsmith3553
@nathanaelsmith3553 Жыл бұрын
If Starmer becomes the next PM he migh have to put up with Johnsons garish decor by Lulu Lytle - unless Sunak has painted it all beige.
@billkingston4402
@billkingston4402 Жыл бұрын
Having corrupt charlatans in government has helped a lot
@Lando-kx6so
@Lando-kx6so Жыл бұрын
The tories have been going about the immigration thing totally wrong. The majority of British people have no problem with legal immigration & the way how they measure net migration is totally wrong yet they are trying to cut down net migration by putting in policies to try to deter people which wouldn't benefit the UK in anyway. I also don't think the majority of people like how unnecessarily cruel the tories are being in regards to refugees.
@raydromeda3777
@raydromeda3777 Жыл бұрын
People keep blaming migration issues on the migrants, when it's the government who has handled it poorly. Putting the burden on both citizens and migrants.
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Жыл бұрын
I think most British people were ok with legal immigration, but now they are legally letting in over a million people legally. I think people also wants legal migration down to a low hundreds of thousands.
@wolfen210959
@wolfen210959 Жыл бұрын
Tories are just being tories, it has always been their way to blame someone else for the problems they themselves have created. When you refuse to accept asylum applications via visits to UK embassies, then insist that asylum applications will only be accepted after the applicants arrive in the UK, then it is no surprise that migrants have to cross the channel in small boats, so they can make their application, here, in the UK, as the government have demanded. Calling them "illegal immigrants" is the icing on the cake, as the UK is duty bound, by agreements with the United Nations, and as founder members of the Council of Europe under the ECHR, to confer aid and shelter to immigrants, until their applications for asylum have been processed. Just to clarify, the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU, despite what the Tories are claiming, and was set up in the aftermath of WWII, to protect the human rights of every citizen residing in Europe, including the right to free speech, freedom of assembly, the right to a fair trial, the guarantee of freedom from oppression or tyranny, freedom from torture, freedom of religion, and many more. Only 3 countries have ever left the ECHR, Greece, after a military coup, who rejoined after democracy was restored, Russia and Belarus, who resigned from the ECHR on the same day that Russia invaded the Ukraine, last February.
@indefatigable8193
@indefatigable8193 Жыл бұрын
The media’s collective eye roll at Labour reminds me of what DW and German media did a year ago to Scholz and his SPD. When the media operates in an echo chamber, the party that’s been in power seems malleable to the will of the pundits. Labour needs to win to put an end to that. Society needs a shakeup.
@e33d90
@e33d90 11 ай бұрын
There are no shakeups in a two party system keep hoping though, remember to vote strategically!!
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez Жыл бұрын
Just wait til the next election campaigning and debating when he has to actually answer the pubic's questions about why they should vote labour...
@kingthomasthehun8408
@kingthomasthehun8408 Жыл бұрын
the question i ask is will it be sustained the tories will likley call an autum election in 2024 if the economy looks like it will significantly improve by then and with behind the scenes divsions in the labour party infighting may be on the horizon. the question is who will seem like the safest choice in autum 2024 i think a moderate conservtiv majority is the mostly likley outcome
@davidwebber6956
@davidwebber6956 10 ай бұрын
CGT was 10% under Labour , now 28% by tories.
@neibaf1881
@neibaf1881 11 ай бұрын
What's up with the image at 1:30. 39% probably shouldn't be over 50% of the circle
@fb8799
@fb8799 Жыл бұрын
@1:33 you say that only 39% said Stamer was doing well as leader, why show a graph with more than 50%?
@lewismillward2202
@lewismillward2202 Жыл бұрын
As ever, great presentation, well balanced argument however you're yet to predict much of anything correctly yet so im gonna hold off fully trusting your opinions
@archvaldor
@archvaldor Жыл бұрын
He's just parroting what the media and the pollsters say. Neither of these groups face any real consequences for getting things wrong so they have no incentive to improve the accuracy of their predictions.
@jamesbarrell8921
@jamesbarrell8921 Жыл бұрын
Politics is hard to predict tbf
@archvaldor
@archvaldor Жыл бұрын
@@jamesbarrell8921 To some extent yes, but they are incredibly bad at it even taking that into consideration. Did you know for example that they overstated the pollsters overstated the voter share of the labour party in almost every general election in the last 40 years? You never hear this mentioned even when Starmer's Labour underperformed in the last two council elections. There's just this assumption they know what they are doing: they don't.
@krisbradbury5087
@krisbradbury5087 Жыл бұрын
Inflation is falling but only because last years data is dropping out not because of any action from the government. So don’t let them fool you. And because inflation fell doesn’t mean cheaper prices it just means the increases aren’t as fast.
@tauceti8060
@tauceti8060 11 ай бұрын
Polling so accurate like in Turkey.
@MegaGuy2010
@MegaGuy2010 Жыл бұрын
This is just how it goes we get pissed off with Labour and vote in Torys then we get pissed off with Torys and vote in Labour 😂😂 I have never voted tory myself
@NancyBoi1984
@NancyBoi1984 Жыл бұрын
Na voting tory is always a no
@HShango
@HShango Жыл бұрын
I never vote Tories no matter what, I've always voted labour or the greens throughout my life
@MegaGuy2010
@MegaGuy2010 Жыл бұрын
@martyn Kerslake I agree but let's be honest they're both as pony as one another and are only in it for personal gain.. its a double edge knife our government.
@joerowland2625
@joerowland2625 Жыл бұрын
Vote Liberals or Labour never the conservatives
@ashash7513
@ashash7513 Жыл бұрын
Nope, you lost me at "Vote Tory"
@shrewman5361
@shrewman5361 Жыл бұрын
0:50 Can someone please explain the points system?
@michaela9079
@michaela9079 Жыл бұрын
I think they are referring to the difference in the percentage of voters voting a certain way. Labour was polling 10% below the government
@danrudge5997
@danrudge5997 Жыл бұрын
They are both corrupt regimes. Vorderman has the right idea for right now.
@smasher248
@smasher248 Жыл бұрын
@@prideofdurham4776 70 years is too much, stop voting for things that you won't be alive to see
@god6384
@god6384 Жыл бұрын
@@prideofdurham4776 every politican tells us what we can and cannot think what are you saying?
@thebigquestionpodcast4958
@thebigquestionpodcast4958 Жыл бұрын
Don't you mean there been 3 leaders or pm not 2
@FactsB4Feelings
@FactsB4Feelings 11 ай бұрын
Labor, the party of high taxes. Conservative, the party of high inflation. We are SCREWED if EITHER of these parties are allowed to rule moving forwards. We need alternative parties not these trashbags.
@unconventionalideas5683
@unconventionalideas5683 11 ай бұрын
High taxes are easier to plan around than high inflation.
@user-rq1if6bd9j
@user-rq1if6bd9j 11 ай бұрын
WTF the highest taxes and the wrest services in years. Both under these inept Tories
@johnwayne8517
@johnwayne8517 Жыл бұрын
we need this government out. However Starmers authoritarian traits seriously worry me. The way he purged his party and has been so obviously dishonest is exactly like boris johnson was. Btw i’m a lib dem voter.
@perro0076
@perro0076 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I'm still soooòo not happy with Clegg though. None of the crap we're going through had to happen if it wasn't for him let alone selling the students down the river. He didn't recognize he was in a position of power. Now he's causing all kind of crap at FaceBook
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials Жыл бұрын
At this point I don't think the Liberal Democrats are very Liberal or at least they are not Classically Liberal or Libertarian for which if you want real Liberalism, you have to vote for UKIP or the SDP since these days the Liberal Democrats are just Labour with a slightly (Modern) Liberal Touch while the Conservatives are just Labour but at the speed of Stephenson's Rocket instead of an LNER Class A4 locomotive (which is the speed for implementing die-hard Socialism that Labour is at)
@johnwayne8517
@johnwayne8517 Жыл бұрын
@@perro0076 no of course clegg was a disaster who enabled the tories.
@Mic_Glow
@Mic_Glow Жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a new party.... pro-EU but anti illegal migrant, not american-style woke, but center/ a bit left leaning in economy/ housing etc.
@wakey87
@wakey87 Жыл бұрын
Pro-EU and anti illegal migrants is just the EU, where illegals become legal.
@wolfen210959
@wolfen210959 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, not gonna find one of those here, have you thought about emigrating? I can do you a good deal on an inflatable dinghy, only used once.
@theconqueringram5295
@theconqueringram5295 Жыл бұрын
Well, I think after 13 years it would be a good idea to change the government.
@maartenaalsmeer
@maartenaalsmeer Жыл бұрын
Proportional Representation is the only thing that can save the UK as a democracy.
@ripvanwinkle6557
@ripvanwinkle6557 11 ай бұрын
Er, no. If that happened, the immigrants would only vote for their own type. Then they'd have even more power over the native majority 😬 Granted, they already vote in their own demographic's interests...
@stevensibbet5869
@stevensibbet5869 5 ай бұрын
Maybe Rishi should introduce PR.
@JohnDoe-gc1pm
@JohnDoe-gc1pm 11 ай бұрын
TLDR - please can you uptdke your stock footage of the clock tower, the hands on the clockface are now blue, not black
@ohno521
@ohno521 Жыл бұрын
No i think a coalition of all parties
@wolfen210959
@wolfen210959 Жыл бұрын
Just what I'd expect from someone with a name like "cheeky chops", a cheeky answer. :)
@micallef87
@micallef87 Жыл бұрын
For the first time in my voting age, there isn’t a party I’m willing to give my vote to.
@wolfen210959
@wolfen210959 Жыл бұрын
That's ok, if the Tories win again I'm sure it won't be down to your vote alone, but you'll also have no right to complain if they do. lol
@utwhaleandash
@utwhaleandash Жыл бұрын
Just imagine all the tory melt down on election night when the results are announced in 2024.That would be beautiful.
@captricharddee3634
@captricharddee3634 Жыл бұрын
That will descend into a nightmare. Rayner will be trying to get rid of Starmer for PM. I wouldn't want to see that gobshite representing The UK to foreign dignitaries. Borrowing will go through the roof and companies will stop investing due to higher taxation. The only people to vote Labour will be Midwives.
@grodesby3422
@grodesby3422 Жыл бұрын
There won't be much of a meltdown when pretty much everyone expects the result
@patnavchatnav9634
@patnavchatnav9634 Жыл бұрын
He's the acceptable face of the tory party..
@RobespierreThePoof
@RobespierreThePoof 11 ай бұрын
Here's an alternative timeline for the UK. The alternative vote referendum passes ... Successive Tory governments are forced to with much more with the political center and not their radical fringe
@AndrzejLondyn
@AndrzejLondyn 11 ай бұрын
With such corruption in Newham...
@antonysteel8061
@antonysteel8061 2 ай бұрын
The sad thing is Liz Truss had the right idea. Low taxes, low touch government. Sadly, MP’s didn’t have the balls to stay the course and ride out the market adjustment caused by the fact she was protecting people for 2 years against fuel prices. Sunak and Labour only offered 6 months.
@lughaidhmoutia3589
@lughaidhmoutia3589 Жыл бұрын
Its the fact that people are poorer.
@wonkygustav4457
@wonkygustav4457 10 ай бұрын
I’d only want him in power for a change of the bs we are currently having to endure but I don’t think highly of Starmer at all nor do I think he’s going to make anything better.
@sufthegoat
@sufthegoat Жыл бұрын
Greens
@nathanlink169
@nathanlink169 Жыл бұрын
1:27 - 39% or 59%?
@TommyEgg-wp8is
@TommyEgg-wp8is 5 ай бұрын
I’m normally a conservative voter but I think they lost my vote, in the past few days I have considered labour
@Anti-Peaceforcepolice
@Anti-Peaceforcepolice 2 ай бұрын
No matter who you vote they are all liars.
@Relisysification
@Relisysification Жыл бұрын
NGL I HATE the way we treat a parliamentary system like a presidency. I don't agree with how labour has been moved since Corbyn (partially because they tried to get rid of me, despite volunteering for them to get out the vote because I started when I was out of university which happened to be under Jeremy) as it seems to be like how the US Democratic Party leans toward the right which doesn't help the ratchet effect. But they are obviously better than what we've suffered since 2010. Personally I would rather PR to be brought in, an anti gerrymandering committee set up. But I will settle for tactical voting until those are available.
@shaunashton5434
@shaunashton5434 10 ай бұрын
Not being the worst option is not a positive reflection on a FPTP system fit for no citizen.
@lordstov8592
@lordstov8592 Жыл бұрын
Its taken this long for the tories to get inept enough for labour to sound the better option
@AbCd-lw5vs
@AbCd-lw5vs 11 ай бұрын
4:14 “immigration has been a hot issue for the last couple of years”… it has been for more than two years pal 😅
@Saransh_Tiwari69
@Saransh_Tiwari69 8 ай бұрын
Way more than two years
@riteshshinde3092
@riteshshinde3092 Жыл бұрын
Uhh get the graphs right👁👁
@iris.holmes
@iris.holmes Жыл бұрын
Two ads that I can't skip for a video that is sponsored. Care to say why?
@jamesblackshaw132
@jamesblackshaw132 Жыл бұрын
Because no other decent alternative
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 Жыл бұрын
It took one Liz Truss to show the world that Regeanomics is a particularly braindead concept.
@adamcw88
@adamcw88 Жыл бұрын
Too Left Didn't Read
@shahidmiah917
@shahidmiah917 11 ай бұрын
I want Labour to win for no other reason than they are professional and competent rather treating this country like a family business to milk out.
@New-ye2fl
@New-ye2fl 11 ай бұрын
Does it even matter at this stage, i don’t see much of a difference between labour or conservatives.
@EmaryTegan
@EmaryTegan Жыл бұрын
39% suddenly looks so huge when comparing with Corbyn. Have some shame! Data analysis 😂😂
@stevendebettencourt7651
@stevendebettencourt7651 Жыл бұрын
I see people in the comments fighting about using Proportional Representation in the House of Commons. While I agree that First Past the Post needs to die in a fire, I would prefer the system Australia has in place for its House of Representatives, Instant Transferable Voting.
@MrDougKerr
@MrDougKerr 10 ай бұрын
When is the election? It’s nuts that the Conservatives keep changing leaders and do not have to go to a general election to get a mandate.
@jason38800
@jason38800 10 ай бұрын
The millennials really lost their golden years under a Tory government
@jason38800
@jason38800 10 ай бұрын
Imagine those who turned 18 in 2010.
@markdavies6817
@markdavies6817 Жыл бұрын
Is a possible Labour recovery in Scotland another factor?
@EmaryTegan
@EmaryTegan Жыл бұрын
Scotland would never support that lying authoritarian
@kingthomasthehun8408
@kingthomasthehun8408 Жыл бұрын
yes and no they probably will get more seats predicted 8 instead of one but we wont see thirty odd like before 2015
@damarekonayaro5781
@damarekonayaro5781 11 ай бұрын
Incompetince, corruption, criminality.* * Spare 3 = Cronyism, tyrannical, venal.
@tonyh1515
@tonyh1515 10 ай бұрын
So we are now in a Doom Loop !!
@Saransh_Tiwari69
@Saransh_Tiwari69 8 ай бұрын
Not now, but always
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