The Timothée Chalamet Bob Dylan Movie Is Mid

[@joemamasaho]

woulda been at least a 9/10 if kendrick played bob dylan in the movie instead of timothee chalamet

[@seanyoung9014]

😂😂😂

[@SwordOfTheRaven]

It could be done in a symbolic sort of film, could be interesting considering how active Dylan was during the Civil rights era, he preformed before one of MLK or more of his speeches

[@SpaceBoyDigital]

@@SwordOfTheRavenits a joke bro, dont do that weird shit

[@glosirl]

@@SpaceBoyDigital too late

[@brazah4987]

I'm Not There

[@The_Weasel_]

My favorite scene was the post credits scene where Bob Dylan is approached by George Harrison and told about the Traveling Wilburys initiative.

[@MothsInALampshade]

Best comment ever

[@docchicken245]

😂😂😂

[@trevorkobe]

I love this.

[@Blammo94]

George Harrison of course being played by Adam Driver

[@HumansFreshlyBorn]

George Harrison - Paul Mescal Tom Petty - Glen Powell Roy Orbison - Chris Evans Jeff Lynne - Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson

[@drummernick4]

I really liked this movie because I knew nothing about bob dylan and by the end I learned that the man gave no fucks

[@tipsythefedora]

You would love Don't Look Back the doc about him touring the UK in the mid 60s, its peak Dylan not giving a fuck,

[@pez---]

@@tipsythefedora then find 'eat the document' and see what amphetamines were like back in the day

[@danielandrewgrant]

If your knowledge of Dylan is based on that movie you STILL know nothing about him.

[@TheGreatestJediOfAllTime]

@@danielandrewgrantWe get it, you know a lot about Bob Dylan. No one’s impressed.

[@dandur7124]

@@TheGreatestJediOfAllTimehey, get a load of this guy! He knows a lot about Bob Dylan!

[@yzu_]

im a dylan head , i dont take showers . main critique , they didn’t make him silly enough . like that video of him mishmashing words on a storefront sign.

[@nicholasbeck2649]

Ikr, like Another Side of Bob Dylan and the three electric albums all have at least a few goofy fun songs. I think that's probably a reason why Dylan didn't get along with the media or maybe some people in the folk scene is because they took him too seriously when he just wanted to make music.

[@folicallychallenged]

based

[@lauraeliot7199]

@@yzu_ You are so right. Dylan is funny and witty.

[@gabagoolenjoyer]

They should've had Ringo starr direct it

[@bonkknob3240]

that whistle was pretty silly

[@AaronAnaya]

Something elusive like I’m Not There was probably always going to be the best way to depict Dylan. As much as we like to think so, he’s really never been the stereotype of the confessional singer-songwriter. “Bob Dylan” is essentially a character that Robert Zimmerman has been playing his entire career.

[@TheNeo349]

damn, i wrote the last line in a group chat last week. and i agree fully, I'm not there is the best approach for dylan, he has played multiple characters throughout his career. some of them diametrically opposite from each other. also, cate blanchett is THE best dylan portrayal ever imho.

[@kianyt5804]

That is literally the entire point of a complete unknown

[@lauraeliot7199]

@AaronAnaya Best way to see Dylan,other than live shows,is one or all of the many documentaries about him. There you will see the man himself. Worth every minute.

[@n0denz]

That movie was pretentious as hell and sucked balls.

[@LeoPavon-rl9fg]

@@n0denzYou’re entitled to your opinion. I thought Cate Blanchett did a good job tho

[@sallowhuw3520]

Yeah okay.. Mr. Jones.

[@Xenonic2]

Fantano: It's mid @sallowhuw3520 : You're a LIAR!

[@seannmercury00]

@@Xenonic2well, it’s kinda true this guy always does the most controversial takes

[@thenerddesk111]

Weird Al was honestly one of the most solid biopics I’ve seen for how ridiculous it is.

[@smurxxx0910]

The polka party was lit

[@Manchupacabra]

Totally agree. It's a shame that it came out on the Roku Channel. Feels like so many people missed it.

[@gnalkhere]

It felt like Walk Hard got the Weird Al bump

[@blanchardwill]

Dad! What do you even make at this factory??

[@DKdrop]

It was the only appropriate way to make a Weird Al biopic.

[@brandon6938]

i’m a huge fan of dylan’s music but don’t know much of his life, but i really enjoyed the movie. felt like it was dramatized in a respectable way as he’s such a mysterious figure. made me start listening and researching so much about him after, but i completely understand your criticisms of the movie

[@IncredibleGoliath]

Dylan has been in movies since the 60s. "Being mysterious" is part of his carefully crafted, heavily promoted public image.

[@aschles503]

Can I recommend the documentary "No Direction Home" by Martin Scorsese? He did it in the early 2000s and he interviews EVERYONE involved in Dylan's life basically, including Dylan himself and Joan Baez, etc...Even Dylan's childhood friends. It's so good and complete.

[@srinblmlmlke]

the two people saying they like the movie i’ve seen in the comments have both said they don’t know him lol

[@sebastiano728]

@@aschles503 I heard recently that Dylan actually asked Scorsese to include a bunch of false testimonies about his life, in order to maintain his mysterious persona

[@WatchTheseClips1]

I agree! I’m only 32 and I didn’t know many Bob Dylan’s songs but I’ve been listening to nothing but Bob Dylan for the past 2 weeks since I watched the movie lol They just don’t make music like they did in the old days.

[@basic_chain]

Wait, you're telling me the scene where sylvie walks in and says "Bob, take a look at my brand new leopard skin pill box hat!" And Bob grabs his guitar like "SAY THAT AGAIN!" Didn't actually happen??? 😢

[@LeoPavon-rl9fg]

I haven’t watched the movie (and probably don’t plan on going to), so in my head I just imagine Sylvie sounding like Candace from Phineas & Ferb when she asked Dylan that question (shout out to Ashley Tisdale for no absolute reason)

[@Killguy-]

@@LeoPavon-rl9fg Let's give a quick shoutout to Christina Applegate 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@LeoPavon-rl9fg]

@@Killguy- I’m so glad you got the Eric Andre reference

[@moonxliqht]

well it ends before 1966

[@PileUhFlapjacks]

This movie was made for my 83 year old grandma. She loved it

[@HaturnAhheadns]

very sweet

[@reeceloomis673]

My grandma loved it too, she’s 79

[@kevinfinnerty8414]

It’s not for Middle aged Dylan fanatics. The movie is exactly for Old people who remember Blowin in the Wind and Times are a changin. And for young girls who love Timmy. And that’s fine.

[@himynameisjohn]

I usually don't agree with your movie takes and that stays true with this one

[@alexigiguere9890]

Yeahhhhhh Fantano is kind of a shitty, annoyingly bitter movie reviewer lmao. Holy fuck you'd think A Complete Unknown killed his family dog.

[@АлексЗ-й4и]

jajajahah same

[@acevaptsarov8410]

Fantano has had too many L takes, man...

[@NickRoseDONTTRIP]

Inside Llewyn Davis is unironically the best music biopic film ever despite portraying a fictional singer-songwriter

[@l-lelixNebula]

You are correct that film is amazing

[@captainhaddock6435]

I found it waaaay too depressing

[@gnalkhere]

Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story perfected the form.

[@ericnstuff]

​@@captainhaddock6435hell yeah brother

[@stephendavies7355]

Bit pretentious even for a coen brothers movie. Cool soundtrack tho

[@kylejohnson4615]

I love how you’re like “Dylan didn’t sound like that” followed by Dylan sounding like that 😂 like yes it was heightened but he absolutely captured the essence of the tonality in his voice. I also disagree that the movie didn’t show that his inspiration to start making protest music wasn’t inspired by his partner and surroundings, I felt like that was pretty clear if not explicitly said. Love your reviews but think you may have missed the forest for the trees on this one

[@oogiegoogie2826]

He also completely ignores the fact that Dylan is putting on a persona in that scene. He’s lying about having a storied past and playing up his voice for the mystique, and right after that Joan calls him out on his bullshit. I feel like Fantano overlooked a lot of themes and subtext of the movie. The title should give people a hint as to why Dylan is portrayed the way he is.

[@ExNihiloComesNothing]

Yeah I feel like he’s purposefully missing the whole context

[@dingytot]

For real

[@Aboutreika91]

Agreed, this take is NOT it

[@alexigiguere9890]

Is this unironically Fantano's worst video of all time lmao? He very fucking clearly set out to hate this film regardless of its quality and not only misses the entire point but actively lies and gaslights us by putting clips together and showing that Fantano is indeed wrong lmao. What a weird, shitty rant

[@Abraxas_the_Mage]

I loved the movie. You’re just jealous you weren’t shown funny chords by a cowboy called wigglefoot.

[@superjerry3233]

The internets busiest movie nerd

[@dubuious]

I think this is the wrong bald guy

[@wealllikeitsomilkit4301]

Wait isn't that Critical Drinker or Nerdrotic?

[@WACK100SBUTTHOLE]

I smoke crack

[@charlesconoly6776]

​@@wealllikeitsomilkit4301Critical drinker is busy bitching about woke culture

[@Dawn95284]

​@@wealllikeitsomilkit4301 Neither know anything about cinema. The closest KZbinr that could be a Fantano equivalent for film would be YMS which is unfortunate cuz he's annoying.

[@deuscast]

I just want a super zany Tom Waits biopic that randomly gets super depressing sometimes

[@thirtyyearoldmulberryfield]

Maybe a “Whiplash”-esque biopic on Don Van Vliet aka Captain Beefheart and the making of “Trout Mask Replica”?

[@PRAGMAGICK]

@@deuscast Island Years Waits with his love of pointy shoes during Down By Law getting a origin story

[@Skroskznik]

And it having Tom waits is portrayed as a CGI gorilla

[@RockOfAllAges-81]

@@deuscast Shut up and take my money!

[@deuscast]

@@Skroskznik Tom Waits is 2 inches tall and no one comments on it

[@shaharm2898]

Walk Hard the Dewey Cox story remains the most, perhaps the only truthful and compelling biopic…

[@vonandfriends9269]

No ray charles stop

[@nicolasrield]

Control about Ian Curtis/Joy Division

[@trilobiteterror8015]

Such a hallowing look at how people fall into drug addition. Sam: -Get out of here, Dewey. Dewey: -What are y'all doing in here? Sam: We're smoking reefer, and you don't want no part of this shit. Dewey: You're smoking reefers? Sam: Of course we are. Can't you smell it? Dewey: No, Sam, I can't. (Girl with Sam): Come on, Dewey, join the party. Sam: No, Dewey, you don't want this. Get out of here! Dewey: I don't want no hangover. I can't get no hangover. Sam: It doesn't give you a hangover. Dewey: Will I get addicted to it or something? Sam: It's not habit-forming. Dewey: Oh, okay, well.... I don't know. I don't wanna overdose on it. Sam: You can't OD on it. Dewey: It's not gonna make me wanna have sex, is it? Sam: It makes sex even better. Dewey: Sounds kind of expensive. Sam: It's the cheapest drug there is. You don't want it. Dewey: I think I kind of want it. Sam: Okay, but just this once. Come on in.

[@ChatterboxFM]

@@trilobiteterror8015 Dewey’s struggle with needing blankets and NOT needing blankets shook me to my core.

[@perfectallycromulent]

Pee-wee's Big Adventure is both compelling and truthful as well.

[@jourdanfarmer]

You’re saying there’s discrepancies that any casual Dylan fan would know, but you know 1,000,000x more about Dylan than anyone I’ve ever met.

[@death_nk1587]

Exactly if you look at it it's just parts that he probably got from watch mojo vid

[@burgermind802]

So he's an average Dylan fan.

[@Justcarlosdiaz]

You just have to watch one video of Bob Dylan doing anything and you can see that Timothy did an awful job..

[@Justcarlosdiaz]

@DylanBell-ym5xz yeah it sucks when people who actually know what they're talking about have opinions..

[@joeyschmitt2410]

I don't quite disagree with most of your specific critiques yet I still came away with feeling good about it. I'd classify myself as a casual Dylan fan, so that might be a part of it. There were 3 big themes/vibes that I latched onto and liked in the movie 1) it felt like there was almost more of an emphasis on what Dylan meant to people, and how he fits into the cultural/historical context of the 60s as opposed to his actual life and that's kinda more interesting to me. For example, personally I don't care if the Cuban missile crisis sequence was made up, I'd never felt the on the ground vibe of that moment of fear in quite the way I did in this movie. That paired with Dylan seeming borderline checked out from his surroundings but then just showing up with the perfect song for the moment was an interesting dichotomy to me, which leads me to... 2) I just really liked the vibe they went with for Dylan himself, I thought tim and the writers did a good job of making portraying him as kinda a self absorbed dick that somehow manages through those very traits to be both obnoxious and the coolest guy in the room. Just trying to figure out if I liked him or not kept me watching 3) I really enjoy the Pete seeger/Dylan dynamic as a metaphor for the tension between artistic freedom and being a man of the people/voice of a generation. The drama around Dylan going electric did feel exaggerated, but I was down with it cause of how it worked with that bigger tension between being who people want you to be, and potentially serving something bigger than yourself in a meaningful way, and being true to your instincts and desires as an artist. Like sure Dylan stayed political as his career went on, but in my opinion things also got a lot more abstract and opaque. You could picture a thousand people singing times they are a changing, or Maggie's farm at a march, but that ain't gonna happen with lily, rosemary and the jack of hearts (which is still one of my favorite Dylan songs). And I do see a meaningful spirit in folk music of anyone and everyone having their voice, "if you want to sing out sing out", and in that kind of atmosphere Dylan is more of a first among equals, as opposed to the more alienated pedestal of rockstardom, the independent genius. Historically accurate or not, I found something meaningful in this tension

[@proofofmyexistence]

You realize this isn’t just his opinion, it’s also his agenda, right?

[@De_La_Evo]

@@proofofmyexistence what is his agenda? to get people to agree with and discuss his views and opinions by expressing them? like, no shit.

[@oogiegoogie2826]

I agree with everything you’ve said. I think that Fantano is kind of overlooking the themes and subtext, and there’s plenty there.

[@ThreeBlindMiceFilms]

I'm a pretty big Dylan fan myself, and my concern going into the movie was that it would mythologize, rather than portray Bob Dylan and the events it was depicting. I walked out very pleased, nothing felt as egregious or false as, say, Bohemian Rhapsody making Freddy Mercury's AIDS diagnoses a driving force for the performance at LIVE AID. I primarily enjoyed the movie because it played so much of the music, including songs like Masters of War/Song for Woody, which aren't SUPER famous like Times are a Changing, Don't Think Twice, Like a Rolling Stone etc. Fantano's take away is "This isn't a movie for music fans, or Dylan fans" My take away was the complete opposite LOL I think the people inclined to enjoy the film will be those familiar with the music. Like the tone of the film really carried it for me; As well as, as you said, the sense that the film was actually about the people in Dylan's life and how they felt, rather than it being about what was Dylan himself thinking or feeling. I find it a little weird that Fantano is like "None of the songs add to the narrative" "Also why is he playing Don't Think Twice it's Alright when his girlfriend is leaving and the relationship is deteriorating". I walked out of the movie with the sense that it did a good job showing that Dylan was a bit of an aloof, self-involved ass-hole and it showed more how that effected the people in his life and those individual relationships. I think trying to get too "into Bob's head" would have actually worked towards the unrealistic mythologizing of the man. Also the final scene does show that a lot of the crowd were unhappy with the new music style, lots of others were SUPER into it. Also, I thought it actually did a good job showing that somebody like Seager was really displeased with him bringing the electric style into folk (and they had a falling out for a handful of years); Woody Guthrie was portrayed as having no such misgivings, hence the final scene in the film. And plays into what you said about it being representative of the overall dynamics at play within that music scene at the time. I agree that the scene on Pete Seager's TV show was DEFINITLEY a bit much, in terms of inaccuracy, but things like the Cuban missile Crisis scene, or Chalamet going a bit too heavy into Dylan's voice/enunciation (which was unique, and not dissimilar to his singing voice!), to be full nit-picks. I also didn't get any sense that the film portrayed the folk music scene as being "stuck in the past/a cultural dead-end" as Fantano seemed to get from the film. Also his assertion that the musical performances in the film were "just okay" is wild.. I get the sense he walked into the movie wanting to be cynical, and ran with it Lol

[@strahljd]

​@@proofofmyexistenceYour agenda is on full display

[@Ashmatthewsmusic]

When you played the Dylan clip…I was like “uh that’s kinda exactly how Timmy was sounding” I think your love for Dylan is making you extra picky about things

[@fallingathousandfeet]

hahaha i had the same thought

[@hapahapahappy]

Not really. I definitely agree that Chalamet's impression was way over the top.

[@PurpleLemurs]

At the start of the movie I thought Dylan had an Irish accent or something. It was definitely weird

[@dappunk1]

pretty normal for a superfan to be picky

[@maxis4343]

theres probably not a huge selection of clips to choose from cuz the movie isnt out on streaming yet. they mightve just gone with that one because the dialogue is so ridiculous

[@wadekemmsies7180]

You know what else is mid? Mesothelioma. And if you or a loved one has been diagnosed, you may be entitled to financial compensation

[@Hevvvyyy]

Real ones know

[@QuinHafnerOrange]

It’s too bad we’re running out of people to make biopics about, imagine how hard it’s going to be for the academy to decide who wins best actor

[@TheBustedFlush1998]

Anthony Fantano biopic starring Paul Giamatti

[@B1G_WENGH]

I want to see a Lou Reed movie. If Raimi Malik hadn’t already played Freddy Mercury, he would’ve been perfect as Lou Reed.

[@zachrincon327]

Eh, don't think Chalamet is even winning this year, IDK how you watch what Timothee Chalamet does in this mid ass biopic nonsense versus Adrien Brody's masterful, soulful work in The Brutalist and come to the conclusion that Chalamet gave the better performance lol.

[@Maglors_grief]

We are definitely not running out of people to make biopics about

[@DG-gx8pn]

Let’s make a QuinHafnerOrange biopic starring Will Smith

[@winteriscoming1008]

Fantano is crazy. Chalamet was awesome in this and the movie is pretty entertaining. Screenplay could be better, but the historical inaccuracies on their own don't really bother me. The movie will probably convert a few potential Dylan fans who wouldn't give his music a chance otherwise, and that's a win.

[@ssssssstssssssss]

Who watches a fictional movie for its “historical accuracy “? Even if it is a biopic.

[@WETs3rgullioni]

How dare you have a valid take that is opposite of fantanos pretentious views

[@x_ch00F]

​@@WETs3rgullioni is it really pretention when you are subscribed to the channel and are in his comments talking about his musical opinions

[@sonalattapattu4402]

@@x_ch00Fbold of you to assume he is subbed and didn’t happen by it when he just searched “a complete u known reaction” in the search bar

[@fishbrehth]

they should’ve gone 8 mile with it and had the denouement scene be a rap battle with eminem and then dyaln wins the nobel prize right after because we all know subterranean homesick blues was the first rap song

[@Audnorge]

Also the first Music Video.

[@elponchex]

But what do you think of their refusal to cast Adam Friedland as Bob Dylan? For me that's wild.

[@Tausami]

Pure anti-Semitism really

[@cloudbloom]

Too gay for Hollywood

[@PRAGMAGICK]

@@elponchex Bug Dylan

[@Big_Dip1]

Cool Adam

[@elponchex]

Cool Adam would be better for a biopic about Bob Marley, Che Guevara or someone cool like that. I'm talking about regular Adam Friedland. Greetings.

[@coojoe89]

> If you wanted to listen do Dylan, just go listen to Dylan Maybe fantano should have just watched a Dylan live concert instead? The whole point is the actors performances, and they are super solid, not mid at all. The biopic glue is a bit lukewarm, but overall the music and production carries it well.

[@Prodbyjah464]

Yeah but a biopic is a movie as well, which means it’s more then just the performances. It’s the directing, it’s the story and narrative that unfolds. You can’t just dismiss any criticisms because simply put “timothee challamet can act”

[@rollypollywithwings]

Yeah, but finding out that Dylan insisted on inserting stuff that never happened into the movie is kind of great on a metatextual level, right?

[@EthanRoseKuntz]

As a huge Dylan fan, I genuinely loved this film. Most “Wikipedia biopics” are very inaccurate, and I expect that, but that’s actually a good thing for Bob. The way he tells his own story is inaccurate (see chronicles or any interview he’s ever given). I thought Timothee’s performance was also fantastic. A lot of what you criticize the movie for is actually to its credit in my opinion.

[@drkstnly6040]

The problem is that if some unknown actor was portraying Dylan it would be less bumpy to digest. But we have an A-lister Chalamet who's is so overexposed and familiar to everyone that when he's doing his Dylan impression it feels weird and awkward. But then again they wouldn't be able to do a big budget film without a celebrity attached.

[@EthanRoseKuntz]

@ he wasn’t an A-lister when he was cast 5 years ago

[@alexigiguere9890]

Isn't the historicas innacuraies the point as well? It's what Dylan himself would retell his own life to be if he had the chance, thats how I saw it. His fateful meeting with Woody, him playing his famous guitar....its clearly the desires of Dylan's own life like Chronicles

[@АлексЗ-й4и]

@@alexigiguere9890 Dylan has approved the script of the film, so...

[@rcetn]

@@drkstnly6040 there's a whole fake Dylan documentary made by Scorsese on Netflix using real Dylan footage to tell a fake story. If you tell the truth while making art about Dylan you failed the assignment.

[@MovieBuffNtn]

Leaning into fabrication is the point. It’s based off of a book for one, and it was approved by Dylan himself. I don’t buy into the portrayal as unflattering either, instead a flawed person who changed the game, reflecting that it came at a cost. It’s mythologizing for a reason, and I am Dylan fan and an avid music listener. In fact, I find Walk the Line far more predictable and typical

[@ExNihiloComesNothing]

Yeah and talk about leaving things out- Walk the Line left so much out about Johnny’s overt Christianity that he looked like just another Star

[@IraHazard-y8n]

AF citing Walk the Line as a gem musical biopic was an early tell this was gonna be a trash review

[@Dethmothcreations]

The portrayal was hella unflattering, there's literally zero redeeming qualities of Dylan in the movie outside of being an artist. He's rude to basically everyone he doesn't hero worship and treats people like commodities. He basically doesn't crack a single joke the whole movie, when the real Dylan joked and was sarcastic all the time. This movie felt like it missed the point of his sarcasm and took it literal

[@АлексЗ-й4и]

@@Dethmothcreations Oh, so you know Dylan personally and you know how he was with his people? Or did we just look at the same things for fans, like interviews for journalists and a few video archives?

[@Dethmothcreations]

@ I have no interest in changing your clearly stupid opinion, carry on with your life

[@BigBlancoBaby]

As someone who didn’t really listen to Bob, the movie made me check out more of his music and now I’m hooked

[@sonalattapattu4402]

Same here!

[@colinwilliams9436]

Name one biopic since Walk Hard that hasn't been underwhelming

[@pretz2126]

Rocketman was good, Elton John was actually a part of the production so they didn’t lie about the history

[@fortynights1513]

I liked the Elvis biopic with Austin Butler personally, but that’s just me.

[@MGR7i]

Hopefully MJ's will be far from underwhelming

[@fortynights1513]

Who’s Walk Hard a biopic on?

[@KingCuzco]

i mean there’s walk the line, ray, get on up, and my personal favorite has been love & mercy (the beach boys biopic) i loved that biopic! i have a good feeling the michael jackson movie will be great too just as long as its not another bohemian rhapsody lol

[@debarshidasgupta9663]

Bob Dylan was involved in the making of the movie. SO if the movie makes him appear like a jerk, rest assured they had Bob's approval on it Melon.

[@Plagues138]

I await the day that we run out of musicians, and start making biopic on influencers... "the man behind the Mellon". Staring Chris Pratt of course.

[@dillischill5600]

you joke but when we’re 60 that is gonna come out and drop us straight into our graves

[@SSJDuBois]

The difference between this review and the paid for Monkey review is wild

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

The Robbie Williams movie is actually good though. Haven't seen A Complete Unknown so I can't say how it compares, but as someone who is pretty cynical about celeb biopics I thought Better Man was up there with Rocketman as one of the best

[@rfogo14]

This is why youre the internets busiest music nerd and not the internets busiest movie nerd

[@Aboutreika91]

it’s a remarkably bad take on this movie lol. so nitpicky and annoying in every way

[@Prodbyjah464]

Why? Because he has an opinion, one that most people who actually review movies are agreeing with?

[@alexigiguere9890]

@@Prodbyjah464 Nah, just read the comments. Most of Fantano's opinions are in bad faith, it's just a surprisingly shitty video from the guy

[@Prodbyjah464]

@ I mean nah it isn’t. Especially since there’s no such things as good or bad opinions, just ones you agree and don’t agree with. If you don’t agree with him that’s fine but that doesn’t mean he isn’t allowed an opinion either. Call me crazy as well, but just because most of the comments aren’t agreeing doesn’t mean there’s no merit to what he said. Like to be honest I agree with Anthony, the film pretty much seems to be a boring Wikipedia esc biopic that tells the story we already know and when they try to change it fabricate things, it doesn’t really make sense within the context of the movie. If you enjoyed it that’s fine but you can’t criticise others for not (especially when they actually explain why)

[@Countertexts]

I say this as a huge bob dylan fan. He was indeed an anti-social weirdo. Dude stole a collection of folk albums from a friend in Minneapolis. Dude stole a Dave Von Rank song and recorded it without permission. Dude crossed the country and showed up at Woodie Guthrie's family home uninvited lmao. (I haven't seen the movie yet) but a portrayal of him as acerbic and self interested with his artistic ambition is entirely accurate. but you're right if he's never jokey it would be odd. I just wanted to say that there is indeed that side of him that continues to this day. And it was a little unclear what part of it you were saying was fabricated, but Bob Dylan did indeed visit Guthrie at Greystone Park Psychiatric hospital (at least to attestations)

[@withatilde]

showing up at someones home uninvited in the 60s is not antisocial behavior lmao. swear you couldve just said he was sexist and later on zionist or something instead of bringing up these specific non-issues lol

[@SpaceBoyDigital]

@@withatildeGo to sleep, you have no idea what your argument is.

[@jonahbranz]

He was definitely jokey in the movie 🤷‍♂ I genuinely feel like I didn't watch the same movie as Fantano regarding how off he was on some of the things he said in this video

[@IraHazard-y8n]

Good news. Anthony’s claims that Dylan as portrayed in this film is neither charming nor funny are… DEAD WRONG. Weakest content Anthony has ever produced.

[@withatilde]

@@SpaceBoyDigital those are the only valid things to say about dylans moral character, calling him antisocial for singing folk songs is hilarious and uninformed

[@connortiernan2548]

If it was called “To Pimp A Complete Unknown Butterfly” it would be a 10.

[@rooneyb2549]

the inaccuracies arguably make this the most faithful Bob Dylan biopic

[@TeggupsIsTalking]

2:14 radohed

[@Kelpo64]

12:07 literally shows clip of Bob sounding almost identical to Timmy’s impression

[@hankhill7827]

I will never accept the opinion of an Argentinian rugby fan.

[@AntColston]

It’s like every time people start to feel like they’re seeing too much of Timothee Chalamet, he again proves that he is simply just one of the best actors of this generation.

[@bobsbigboy_]

no

[@AJwiththeAK]

Is it because they didn’t pay you like Robbie Williams?

[@glenmorrison8080]

This is why you can't do paid reviews if you want to be taken seriously for other reviews. I honestly am not confident in this dude's takes on this film now. Maybe he was just hoping for a deal from the movie theater.

[@WillHerren]

Gotta disagree, won’t elaborate why Melon.

[@xwhite2020]

You liked Timothys hair?

[@SatanSupimpa]

Neckthony Beardtano.

[@АлексЗ-й4и]

Dude, you’re now scolding director for not making up facts about Dylan’s life, his conversations with others and his feelings, but showing them as the world knows him, seriously? You, as an admirer of Dylan, should know perfectly well that he does not comment on his personal life, his feelings. So how was the director supposed to show Dylan in the film and not distort his identity, but at the same time give the fans new facts about their idol? Also applies to historical inaccuracies. It doesn’t matter in which city Dylan did another scene if the point is that Dylan can afford it. It’s not just a biography of the person, it’s a film about music and its creator, his work. But some of you will want a complete biography and psychological analysis with all the causal connections. You’re asking the film to answer questions that Dylan’s contemporaries, journalists, friends and fans have not answered in his long career.

[@ByJakeRyan]

id rather see this then the cgi monkey movie that paid you to tell us it was good

[@aledandrian]

Better Man is a way more interesting movie tho

[@glenmorrison8080]

Yeah I'm just here in the comments to see the Better Man paid review jokes.

[@dominikzajkowski8242]

​@@aledandrian not in any universe

[@stephenmachado6400]

I thought the movie was fucking awesome especially as a guitar player originally inspired by Dylan. They learned all his playing techniques and singing techniques and I know how difficult that can be

[@stephenmachado6400]

I didn’t like all the wrong timelines or made up shit tho so valid on that

[@evan2992]

Yet that Robbie Williams biopic that paramount paid you to promote was amazing right? Lol

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

It was actually really good though. Maybe a bit longer than I would have liked, but that's just because of how intense it is. It's totally unflinching with how it shows his drug use and destructive behaviour

[@WETs3rgullioni]

Didn’t know he got paid for it. So much for objective. Dude sold tf out

[@brianbautista6499]

This mid? But then I see your ads for the Robbie William movie ? Cmon Melon 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@judahdadone9410]

“If you are at all aware of Dylan’s progression” you also know that he has a tendency to self-mythologize. So what’s wrong the movie doing that?

[@lmt39]

One of your worst takes. The story / narrative weakness crtique has some merit. But it was never intended to be a deep dive exploration on the man like many biopics are. He was supposed to remain "a complete unknown." Also, the musical performances were fantastic. Chalamet and Barbaro killed it as Dylan and Baez. Norton as Seeger, too.

[@Shmuel420]

Agreed. Although the portrayal of Seeger was a bit disingenuous.

[@ethanpowell8687]

brother, this take really comes across as "ha they think they can make a dramatic retelling of Bob Dylan's life? then I must nitpick every inaccuracy that isn't 100% true to life." It is a biopic after all - not a documentary. And the music didn't feel shoe-horned in at all. Masters of War during the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis being used to introduce Joan Baez and Dylan's relationship in an emotionally tumultuous time. Girl from the North Country referenced by Sylvie to bring up relationship issues. A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall sang in a tongue-in-cheek way when Dylan knows there will be public backlash for his actions. The Time's They Are A-Changin' at the Newport Folk Festival clearly alluding to the slow decline in popularity for folk music. Song to Woody where he literally sings to Woody Guthrie, his hero, even if it's a fictionalized scene. all these references feel very blatant - not forced - but very intentional. And the switch to electric guitar was HUGE in the day. I got to see the movie with my dad who was alive at the time, and that switch to electric was a massive moment in music history that was still discussed for decades. What better way to illustrate that then at the Newport Folk Festival where it clearly contrasts his first performance there? I'm a casual Bob Dylan enjoyer and certainly not a movie buff and I'm not saying this movie is a 10/10 knock your socks off flick, but all in all I think it was a very entertaining and moving film. This review feels like you went into it prioritizing a search for reasons to critique it (obviously, cause you're a music critic) rather than approaching it as a movie trying to convey a message. still like you tho, melonhead :)

[@alexigiguere9890]

THANK YOU! This is the worst Fantano video I've ever seen, his critique is in such bad faith and most of his nitpicks make genuinely zero sense (like you mentioned here)

[@anitahumpage59]

Wow… your review is a total bomb in my opinion. Loved it and as part of Dylan’s generation… he was always controversial and yet a hero. What better way to collapse his life and it was filmed beautifully. Chalamet did a bang up job. Yes! We don’t know why and never did or will.

[@audreyelwood2053]

I will say, I think this movie is directed towards the older generation. Which is weird. I went with my grandpa and he was obsessed with the movie. Just causal older dylan listeners.

[@ElliotK2]

my dad's a huge dylan fan and he loved the movie, but then again he'll probably like anything that could be made about it. honestly i enjoyed it quite a bit, and it got me a lot more interested in dylan's music

[@wiggibow]

Yeah my parents (in their 70s) loved it. Dad's a Dylan mega fan, and he wasn't bothered by any of the embellishments/creative liberties they took with history, thought they did a great job with the music. I liked it quite a bit as well - though admittedly I'm a very bad movie critic, I'm way too easy to please. If something holds my attention and ekes an emotion or two out of me then I'm perfectly content lol

[@deuscast]

Correct. My boomer parents loved it.

[@adelinasardothien8238]

I’m 23 and my boomer parents raved over it, my mom even became a Timmy fan because of it lol. I enjoyed it too but didn’t grow up on bob Dylan so it’s not as nostalgic to me. But boomers love this shit

[@preciousgorgeousralf137]

Did YOU like the movie?

[@dtanobo]

Bro said Walk the Line is from recent years. It's like 20 years old

[@dillischill5600]

melon millennial posting

[@Ahiru77]

Bob's entire portayal in the film sounds like what you would get when you let the artist themselves decide how they should be portayed. They turn to look at themselves more like a caricature or a trope than a real person. Bob probably viewed the interviews and clips of himself you showed us as "Oh no, I'm goofy. I'm such a dork, don't depict me like THAT." which is a shame cause Timothy would've absolutely nailed the open happy Dylan. Dylan personally oversaw and approved EVERYTHING in this biopic.

[@irooaedn]

Honestly I think Timothy delivered a great performance along with the rest of the cast as well and I enjoyed the musical segments even if they did drag on. Ultimately the writing is what falters the most as everything else is pretty good.

[@ZodiacEntertainment2]

The writing is the most important part of a movie, unfortunately for the rest of the crew.

[@cameronb2968]

I couldn’t suspend my disbelief the whole time. I think a no name actor would have fared better. It never felt like Bob always Timmy in a Bob costume

[@Maglors_grief]

Yeah I think he's definitely suffering from the problem where he's too well known now for some people to ever feel truly immersed because we know that's just Timothee Chalamet in a costume. It would have been fitting for them to hire an unknown actor for a movie called A Complete Unknown lol

[@pocrack5714]

@@Maglors_griefno one will watch that film. Dylan is not a big draw today. This movie with this specific cast has made Dylan's spotify monthly listeners double. No other actor can do this.

[@smurfette_blues7922]

​@pocrack5714 the actor playing the lead doesn't have to be the one that draws in the audience. When audiences see a big name in the supporting cast, they can infer that the new kid must have something going for them in order for a-list actors to want to be attached.

[@pocrack5714]

@@smurfette_blues7922 This movie's make or break depends on the LEAD. Remind you I'm Not There, a biopic supposedly acclaimed by the entire Dylan fandom starring FOUR A LIST actors, only made 11million dollars. BOB DYLAN IS SIMPLY NOT A DRAW. I should also remind you Bob Dylan's performance style is not attractive to mass public taste and he has tons of quirks that can easily fall into clowny caricture if not played correctly that only requires a dedicated A LIST actor to do him justice. You just want the filmmakers to miraculously find a prodigy actor who has similar look and height to Dylan and can live up to this demanding task both in terms of music performance and character portrayl and somehow he hasn't made his name as A Lister or even D lister. Funny.

[@ZodiacEntertainment2]

​@@pocrack5714 I hate the movie industry fr

[@isaiahnunez7319]

Bro calling this mid but glazing the Robbie Williams Biopic is wild. Anything for the bag I guess.

[@muscleandhate]

What bag? The Robbie bag? Lol

[@lucillfer]

Robbie Williams movie is great wdym?

[@Serviette_Love]

And yet you made an ad saying the Robbie Williams movie was mind blowing

[@ExNihiloComesNothing]

I don’t know about mind but he sure was blowing

[@OnsenDreamscapes]

your audio system is probably better than a theater's, but not the case for everyone. it's fun to listen to the music on a big screen with a decent system (though the programming was off a little at my local theater, which i wouldn't notice if it wasn't my job). i had a beer, enjoyed it, and didn't think too much about accuracy.

[@matthewmeyrick7104]

I'll admit... that demographic that Melon mentioned... this movie would be great for Timothee Chalamet fans who haven't been properly introduced to Bob Dylon. Yeah, that's me. I'm a fan now.

[@ObieCS2]

12:27 "Screw you guys, I'm going electric!"

[@anabltc]

😂😂

[@death_nk1587]

I don't think you fully saw the last performance correctly and, don't get me wrong I needed a second viewing to actually see it myself, but they don't portray it as everyone hates it. Look at the crowd during those scenes. A lot of people are clapping and cheering. the movie just bumps the hatred of the performance to a 10. Which in my honest opinion is a great narrative piece, because if I'm playing that concert I'm not going to notice the good only the people yelling at me and throwing things at me. He has his own thoughts and ideals in the movie it even says outright he's contrarian, you just apparently refuse to accept it or are to blind to see it happening in front of your eyes(he is, also he is really an ass in real life, if you just have eyes to see it. Not everyone you think is all mighty and a perfect hero actually is.)The two scenes that you mentioned that you don't like also makes a bit of no since to me cause you're watching a movie. Him not being on rainbow quest and not meeting Pete in the exact little way that you remember it happened in real life doesn't really matter it's a dramatization not a beat to beat of his life. If you wanted that go watch a documentary. I'm sure you barley knew how the two met until you had to look it up before making this video even then you didn't say how it happened. Another thing that strikes me odd is you keep giving examples of small tidbits such as one person calling him Judas at a concert as data that any Dylan head would know, which feels just as bad faith. Also there are a lot more examples of how Bob Dylan of being an ashole and mysterious type of character even in the interviews that you show in your review itself. They also do show his girlfriend being the one to push him to write songs about the world around him which feels like another bad faith argument because we both know if you rewatch the movie you will only see two scenes of him watching TV, with him not being on it. One being exposition for telling the audience that the Cuban missile crisis is happening the other is him yelling at the tv about the broadcaster trying to put johnny cash in a box. This video just feels like you saw a watch mojo vid on what the movie got wrong and went with that to explain your old head knowledge on how the movie is so flawed that no person who knows Dylan would see that movie would hate it on site. Just go watch a documentary if you want facts about his life, cause that feels like what you wanted his background wasn't that interesting there's a reason why he's told so many different stories about how he grew up. Everybody wants a story, except for the story that's actually true he was a normal kid. (Also the accent isn't as "atrocious" as your putting it up to be listen to the clips of him talking back to back again and you can see it's just a big dramatization of his actual voice).

[@moonxliqht]

as a huge bob dylan fan i personally loved the film and know many dylan fans who liked it. definitely worth the watch imo! also i think the inaccuracies are so wonderfully dylanesque. i think it would've been impossible to try to be accurate, and the story goes with that! trying to be accurate but having small inaccuracies would've been more distracting than a half fictional movie. it's what bob wanted anyways

[@johnnyantonini4147]

Gotta be one of your worst takes.

[@sebastienbalembois2491]

Hey Fantano, I love Dylan too but you need to watch Don’t Look Back again if you think Chalamet’s performance of Dylan is “unflattering.” I think this fictional version seems a lot nicer than the real life one in the iconic documentary

[@pepperpants]

What a surprise, he doesn’t like something. Wow

[@nemoquodeus8119]

I think boomers are the primary target audience. My parents loved it. I dug it too, tbh. Much better than I expected, especially given the live recordings. The story was fine, meat and potatoes but sufficiently entertaining. The music is the point. Nitpicking the innaccuracies is silly IMO, it's not about that. It's about cultivating a vibe, capturing how people felt about his music at the time. According to the boomers I've talked to, it accomplished that

[@randydoak6638]

I’m a boomer, not a huge Dylan fan but I have enjoyed his music. I’m so pissed off at our f’ed up timeline there’s no room for nostalgia. Watching a young actor doing a fictionalized impersonation of Dylan for two hours is certainly not my idea of a good time. Hard pass.

[@dsn1460]

the music is the point if you don't actually care about his lyrics or the person who wrote them at all lol. the movie was definitely made to make money off boomers though, I'll agree with that

[@TPoynt100]

This was actually my favorite movie that I saw in 2024. Granted I didn't see many of them. But it's unique in terms of being a musical biopic that I would gladly watch again. I also went into this knowing absolutely nothing about Dylan. I'm a fan of folk/folk rock and the general sound of the genre, but I've always enjoyed listening to the people he inspired more than Dylan himself. I really liked the music in the film, and since I knew nothing about him, I viewed him more as a film protagonist than a real figure. That said, I think the reason I liked it so much is because it focused less on telling a comprehensive story of Dylan's life and more on telling a story with Bob Dylan as the hero. The story it was telling was a story of a man who was endlessly creative and fiercely independent, clashing with people that didn't want him to change, kind of crashing out, but being ultimately rewarded for staying true to himself. As a narrative, it was immensely satisfying in my opinion. But if you were looking for a more comprehensive look at Dylan's life, then I can imagine being disappointed, especially if you're a big fan of his.

[@SuperKidcool123]

not sure fantano watched this one. I thought the crowd at the last concert in Newport was split, and actually slowly started liking the electric music. I thought it did great in showing the slow change in the perception the crowd had of the new stuff.

[@Sarahrubi13]

I completely agree . I walked out of the theater kinda disappointed. As a person who doesn’t know much about Dylan this gave me a bad perception of him because as you said it portrayed him as an asshole . I also agreed with what you said on Dylan’s political songs and how they were portrayed in the movie . I was even more confused when I saw most people i follow on letterboxd giving it 4/5 stars .

[@finnemayo]

the weird part is he captures Bob's camp personality to such an extent that everyone else on set holding back laughter. I blame the producers, that's not really his fault.

[@takezoman]

Would be more interesting if you had reviewed the new Robbie Williams biopic tho

[@OddOneOut665]

I'd love to know your thoughts on SMILE 2, since its about a Pop Star (not a real one, just within the World of the Film), and there's a couple banger songs in it too.

[@ladariusmcdonald]

I was disappointed that there was no trace of Karen Dalton in the movie. Her and Dylan were quite close during their days in the Greenwich Village folk music scene. They even performed together. Dylan praised her as being his favorite singer.

[@LeoPavon-rl9fg]

14:06 So essentially Bob Dylan is portrayed like the stereotypical lone wolf edgelord? (E.G. Travis Bickle, The Joker, D-Fens, Tyler Durden/The Narrator) Alright thanks for letting me know, Melon. As much as I love the guy’s music, I might pass on the movie after hearing that lmfao

[@H4GS]

Yeah yeah I hear you Melon but HOW DOES IT FEEL?

[@spaghettieastern88]

Worth pointing out that walk the line is also full of made up scenarios and characters. The worst offender being Cash's first marriage to a black woman being changed to a white women and turned in a jealous woman when in reality they more than likely got divorced because of how racist his fanbase was.

[@Ikiddkriss]

this movies mid but you literally did a paid ad, where you are raving about a bio pic staring a CGI monkey.

[@MrKlaymanTom]

As a big Dylan fan: The musical numbers were all really well rendered. They didn’t “make him out to be a psychopath”, they focussed on certain aspects of his persona, including how he used and alienated others in his community (which he definitely did) because that makes good drama, it’s a *dramatization*.

[@bunny-oc256]

Wish they woulda made the film a love letter to the Greenwich Village folk scene and not whatever ego wank that was

[@PseudoIntellectual2.0]

Inside Llewyn Davis is a great film.

[@FentanylAbuser]

TLDR: Man complains that hollywood movie isnt 1:1 with real life

[@zachfischer5291]

mailboxes drip like lampposts in the twisted birth canal of the colosseum

[@PresidentDylan]

I am the biggest Bob Dylan fan ever . It was the most boring film ever.

[@justinleonard2304]

Ok but you did an ad for Robbie Williams so

[@isaacmedina9962]

I mean these are valid statements in the contrive manner that you are presenting them, but I think you missed the point of the movie: To be a fun and immersive movie to tell the beginnings of Bob Dylan's life. The movie wasn't supposed to be super deep and moving with a perfect narrative. Yes, it is a biopic and it is a movie and it should have narrative, and I think it does. This movie does a great job at developing the social and political scene at the time, allowing the audience to immerse themselves in the movies timeline. It also does amazing performances that almost allow the audience to feel like they're apart of the on-screen audience. This movie was made for people who want something fun and interesting that they can enjoy. I think you analyzed this movie as though it was supposed to be a recreation of Socrates' or Shakespeare's writing.

[@brutaljustin1349]

The most tacky inaccuracy to me was how Bob cheated on Sylvie/Suzan with Joan when he didn't even court with Joan until much later. If I was Bob watching the movie I'd be kinda pissed.

[@BeyondBrii]

I think if Bob Dylan himself said you have to put this scene in, and they did, that’s a criticism of Bob Dylan as a person because the filmmakers aren’t gonna say no to the man it’s about, if he’s involved then what he says goes and I think that’s fair so I personally don’t see it as a huge criticism at all, if anything, it makes sense to the person they showed in the film (as he really doesn’t give a f)

[@kathrynmcnerney6490]

Absolutely! I think the reviewer isn't aware that Bob Dylan was pretty heavily involved in the scenes and script.

[@THEADAMCLASSIC]

I'm Not There starring Christian Bale, Heath Ledger, and Cate Blanchett as they all play Bob Dylan is the best Bob Dylan biopic.

[@nathanbarr1237]

Saw this film as not much of a Dylan fan. Hated it. Thought he had all the charisma of a know-it-all teenager. Then over the next few days I started listening to a lot of his music it. Loved it. And now I feel good about being a budding Dylan fan knowing he wasn't actually like that

[@Goobdywoobdy]

I’m a really big lover of bobs music and I really loved this movie, sure there is a heavy twist of fantasy in there but I think that’s to be expected when it comes to movies about anything, I had a really good time with it.

[@johnsinger1242]

They treat him like Yoda after Palpatine fight with the festival scene. He's just like "fuck it, I must go into exile"🤷‍♂️. Then bob went back home to the degobah swamp.

[@beyondawesomefilms]

Respectfully, melon, I’m gonna have to disagree. Big fan of yours, and while I am a big music guy I’ve always been a bigger film guy. As someone who’s written about film and studied film in college, as well as someone who is a big Dylan fan, I actually really enjoyed this film. The one complaint I actually agree with is your argument about his sense of humor and general likability being absent from the film. While it’s represented somewhat, it does seem to be ignored. But the rest of your points I kind of just flat out disagree with. I think the inaccuracies in a way is what makes this film special, and also thematically resonant. This film is Dylan’s mythos, his folk tale. And I do believe the choices of songs at specific times in the film do advance that folk story quite a bit as well.

[@thatguyseb8824]

I hate biopics, they're like shitty documentaries that have to make up a bunch of stuff to keep the audience entertained. Either tell the true story or don't make it about real people, the only biopics I enjoy are the ones that acknowledge upfront that they're fictionalised or are just straight up parodies like 'Walk Hard'.

[@Graffitisticks]

Bro thinks a movie is a album 💀

[@imperialjg7142]

all of the things you say here is why i hate Bohemian Rhapsody(and most biopics in general) so much.

[@folicallychallenged]

ok this is one of the times when fantano is just completely wrong.

[@Aboutreika91]

yep. a shockingly bad take top to bottom lol

[@folicallychallenged]

@@Aboutreika91 no doubt

[@MrNewyorkfan07]

First off, this movie is one of my favorite movies in recent years. My brother and I watched, never really listening to bob dylan or knowing who he was but it inspired us to listen to his music. Also, some of your analysis is just not quite right, your point on the rainbow room artist being made up is not right. It's referencing Blind Willie Mctell who Bob Dylan never actually met but clearly admired since he wrote a song about him. You seem to be missing the point of the more subtle themes and scenes. Also, the musical performances were honestly remarkable, with some of them being just as good as the original (or even better in some cases). Final point, this is a movie for entertainment that is not a documentary and isn't meant to just tell historical events. Bob Dylan had the final say on the script and he clearly enjoyed the representation. Think you may be missing that.