Hearing this investigation is fascinating, after watching nearly every single documentary possible about the Titanic. It is excellent, thanks.
@waynej.keeley70747 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Please feel free to share it!
@michaelbenitez5394 жыл бұрын
@@waynej.keeley7074 I have never heard such a thought of Titanic and Frankfurt communications
@drumgk5 жыл бұрын
David McCallum is an awesome narrator, his acting is not bad either. His voice is just right. His work on the documentary “Titanic death of a dream” Helps make it the best Titanic documentary available. It has a few inaccuracies but most Titanic docs do. He played Marconi operator Harold Bride in the 1958 movie A night to remember.
@sweetassugar20763 жыл бұрын
@Living With Mental Illness is that duckie
@OpTiC_DaD3 жыл бұрын
I was going to make this comment, Death of a Dream is my favorite Titanic Doc
@frereM2 жыл бұрын
Of the many times over the years that I have see Mr. McCallum on screen, his performance in "A Night To Remember" always stands out. His was a striking portrayal among many excellent performances in a film that is about the most true to the real events as possible (with the exception of the breaking in two of the ship prior to sinking). That film is so factual that it is almost a documentary and generally lacks the gimmicks that Hollywood usually throws in (no Leonardo di Caprio and a fantasy romance, etc.).
@147146235 жыл бұрын
33:55 sounds just like old rose from the movie!
@ThatDangerousWolf5 жыл бұрын
thenumber It is her.
@aquamarine00235 жыл бұрын
That's because it IS her, actress Gloria Stewart! :-)
@brucemarquardt74224 жыл бұрын
it is.... :)
@crazyfx52424 жыл бұрын
You are not the only one who noticed her voice! I am glad she did this though! She played as a survivor in the movie, and she also voices for the "real" victims.. Truly amazing lady she is!
@KnightRider463 жыл бұрын
I thought the same! Then I came to the comments, did she do this before or after the film ? Anyone know?
@TheCarnivalguy5 жыл бұрын
I've read much of both the American and British inquiries. I really wish this presentation was longer, or even better in multiple one hour parts. It was very interesting and well done. I appreciate you posting this.
@keeperofthecheese3 жыл бұрын
45:22 "You never mistake a distress rocket" And yet he was made aware that a ship had fired rockets, and then gone to bed...
@omegacadenza103 жыл бұрын
The distress signals were timed in, I believe intervals in 7-10 minutes each. The Titanic was frantically sending them off in the chaos in 2-5 mins; It’s unfortunate but this is what the time considered.
@jamesporter11233 жыл бұрын
white rockets were fired which means "stay away" green rockets were the "in distress" colour to use. officer Boxall fired green rockets when he was in the lifeboat to signal to the Carpathia
@21stCenturyComm5 жыл бұрын
Gloria Stuart as one of the passengers. Very distinctive voice, recognized it immediately. Very cool.
@waynej.keeley70745 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is the late Gloria Stuart. Every actor is from a former TItanic project
@CajunAdrienne4 жыл бұрын
I recognized it too!
@DennisFTowle-gi3gf3 жыл бұрын
I THOUGHT, IMMEDIATELY, THAT WAS GLORIA STUART'S (Older Rose) VOICE!! That was nice to hear!! 👌🏻
@bonniejohnson15185 жыл бұрын
the mirage theory is the only logical explanation why no one on the bridge, nor the 2 in the look out crows nest could see the ice berg until it was too late. That ice berg was completely cloaked. Nothing else logical explains why some 6 or 7 people saw nothing until they were about 500 yards away. Sometime between 9:00 PM and 9:30 captain Smith retired and commanded Liteholler that he be alerted if conditions should change. So apparently the mirage conditions hadn't yet fully developed at that time, of the which they were close to entering the Labrador current. Oddly enough, this is just about the time that the message from the Musaba came in warning of heavy ice conditions DIRECTLY IN THEIR PATH. Smith thought they were somewhat out of harms way by adjusting his course some 20 miles south to circumvent the earlier warnings from previous message received during the day. Sometime after 10:00 PM visibility began to change and become poor. My guess would be approx. 11"00 PM.........These two critical events is why the Titanic struck the ice berg >1) the accidentally failed delivery of the message from the Musaba, and 2) the abrupt change in visibility that apparently was not reported to captain Smith, whereas these conditions didn't exist when he retired for bed around 9:30 or there about. 2 reason why the ship sank 1) even though Phillips had already received 13 or so messages, and the Captain had already made his adjustments according to those he received by steering the ship some 20 miles south to stay clear of the dangerous area, it was still important for Phillips to deliver the 14th message which came in from the Musaba. The location of that message warned of many large Bergs, and heavy field ice, along with pack ice directly ahead of the Titanic's course. Phillips had no idea how important those coprdinances actually were, and it was not his job to know, but rather just deliver the message and allow the commander to discern them by conferring with his charter that was on duty. Sadly, Philips, according to Lightholler, set the message aside and forgot to deliver it to the bridge among all the confusion in the radio room that night. This was a vital message that should have been delivered, I'm sure Phillips felt terrible about this mistake later before he died on the collapsible boat ....note: the messages sent by the passengers were not frivolous, they paid to have them delivered, and it was their wishes. Phillips was not working for the White Star Line, but rather for a private company whose job was to take messages from passengers and then send them..HOWEVER, when a notice came in to be forwarded to the bridge or Captain, then that took precedence. 2) Captain Smith had retired for the evening shortly before Lightholler's shift ended. The orders were to alert the Captain if conditions changed. Lightholler left this same message with Murdock when he retired for the evening at 10 oclock. Sadly Murdoch did not alert the Captain about the great refraction upon the horizon that was impairing vision. This refraction was confirmed by many crew and members on the ship, along with other log books from of other ships passing through the area. Stanley Lord even noticed it. Stanley Lord said it was a most peculiar nigh indeed, in that the conditions were very unusual, whereas one could not tell were the horizon ended and the sky began. Also, one of the passengers testified that the ice berg he saw after the collision vanished away from his sight at about 150 yards. Yes, it could have been in reality some 300 yards, however this is further proof that the berg was severely cloaked by a enigmas mirage condition... Again; Stanley Lord said it was a most peculiar nigh indeed, in that the conditions were very unusual, whereas one could not tell were the horizon ended and the sky began.. Its my belief that Lighhollers statement "that if the captain was awoke that he would have slowed the ship down and very possibly stopped it altogether for the night. and waited for daylight to proceed"........so in conclusion; Smith thinking he was out of harms way, was unknowingly heading straight into a dangerous ice area.... A true fluke indeed, because they probably could have hit that berg a 100 times at most all angels and still not taking out 6 compartments, thus would have remained afloat long enough until a rescue ship came..a real long shot indeed. No ship other than the Titanic has ever had a collision and taken out 6 water tight compartments, ... side note: Philips stayed at his post to the very end> Very honorable. And Murdock must be commended for his excellent steering of the vessel under such immediate and extreme conditions having only seconds to react. AND he never reversed the engines, and the ships maneuverability was excellent , and would be considered satisfactory even by today’s standards also,,,.....
@michaelserviss92785 жыл бұрын
What if it was seen but there was no officer on deck to give orders to avoid it? (This is a theory out there).
@bonniejohnson15185 жыл бұрын
@@michaelserviss9278 Murdock's post was stationed just to the right of the bridge, plus there were other officers on the bridge, and two people in the crows nest in direct contact with the bridge....The ice berg was inigmasly cloaked on the horizon...Also, one of the passengers testified that the ice berg he saw after the collision vanished away from his sight at about 150 yards.....................Even Capt. Rostron nearly missed a couple bergs on his way to the rescue, which was actually against company rules....If he had struck a berg his legacy would most likely have been quite different...JMO
@martigrow24684 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your detailed summary, Bonnie... it has shed more light to my thinking!👍 Ever since reading "A Night To Remember" (back in school), the Titanic has been one of the most interesting disasters☺️ that has touched my heart. It stirs almost every possible emotion that a human can feel... anger, love, terror, pride, hope, shame and lots of questions,, etc. etc. etc. I'd often prayed that the Titanic would be located during my lifetime... and it was! Then... James Cameron fullfilled one of my wishes by giving life to my thoughts about what actually took place! It's very clear that mistakes were made by various people in that great disaster... and such a tragedy obviously needs someone to blame. However, I have come to feel that everybody did their best(?) at what they thought was their best during a disaster that nobody had even anticipated... so were totally unprepared to handle. The fact that so many people actually believed the ship was unsinkable was the worst disaster in itself! Others couldn't even believe distress calls when they saw them... while the passengers were even refusing to get into the dark cold lifeboats! It's certainly been "a lesson to remember". The most important question I have (whenever thinking about that sinking ship) is... How would I have reacted at that time... or even today? I hope I would have done something dignified... but I think nobody really knows until they're forced into that position. Thanks for letting me express myself here.
@ajrwilde142 жыл бұрын
the other explanation is that there was no iceberg at all and the ship was torpedoed
@chrischeshire65282 жыл бұрын
A interesting note. 18 year old William Paley was the first person in the U.S. to receive the S.O.S. from the Titanic. He went on in life to start CBS radio and Television.
@cambodianwavelength2 жыл бұрын
David McCallum...Man from U.N.C.L.E's Illya Curriakin. Splendid.
@TheWriterWalker5 жыл бұрын
The Californian's crew should have awakened the telegraph operator.
@michaelserviss92785 жыл бұрын
Not without Captain's orders and Captain Lord was a very strict, even mean captain.
@TheWriterWalker5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelserviss9278, oh. I didn't know that about Lord. Too bad. History could have been changed for the better that night if Lord had made different decisions, and if Phillips had performed differently, and if Smith had responded differently -- you know the story. If only, if only, if only....
@CajunAdrienne4 жыл бұрын
Or know how to use it themselves! Their first instinct should've been to go straight to the communication machine after seeing many rockets fired.
@TheWriterWalker4 жыл бұрын
@@CajunAdrienne, it was new technology to them, and one had to be schooled in the use of it. To my knowledge, only the Morse operator knew how to communicate with it.
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
Neither Californian nor Titanic people were sure of what they saw
@LittleLulubee5 жыл бұрын
So the captain of the Californian was told by one of his crew that he thought he saw a rocket. And the captain admitted rockets are always distress signals. Yet after knowing a ship had fired a distress signal, instead of going to help, his response was to go to bed.
@TheWriterWalker5 жыл бұрын
To the Californian's credit, they did try to warn the Titanic -- twice. But I agree with you. After the strike, Lord should have awakened his telegraph operator to see what the Titanic or other ships were saying.
@young321bookie5 жыл бұрын
@@TheWriterWalker - They knew it was going to happen, it was meant to sink. :/
@TheWriterWalker5 жыл бұрын
@@young321bookie, you think? Why was it meant to sink?
@young321bookie5 жыл бұрын
@@TheWriterWalker - It's difficult to say exactly how these evil 'people' think. There was definitely a financial insensitive at the very least. The Titanic cost around $7 500 000 to build, and was worth about $10 000 000 and was insured for somewhere near this amount, if not more. As always with all of these shady 'cover-ups' if you will, there are so many conflicting statements and reports to how much the Titanic was actually insured for, from what I gather the insurance policy was changed shorty before the voyage but it's difficult to say exactly what it was insured for, most probably by design. If her sister-ship the Olympic was as badly damaged as it was said from her collision with RMS Hawke on the 20th September 1911, then it's value wouldn't be close to that of the Titanic, in fact the Olympic may have become a rather large liability for White Star. In my personal opinion, they wanted the ship to sink but thought it would be over several hours, as in 5-10 hours or maybe more. And if the SS Californian hadn't totally f*cked up their part in the pre-planned sinking, then they probably would've got the vast majority of people off the Titanic before it sank...but their pre-meditated plan went very wrong. Of course it's just my opinion, but there are so many things involved in all of this that make zero sense, and I can't see why there was such an extreme cover-up in the British inquiry if there wasn't anything shady that needed to be covered up and lied about. On a side-note: You might want to check out the 1929 Grand Banks Earthquake, a 7.2 magnitude Earthquake that took place in the exact same part of the ocean at the exact same time the 'Olympic' was travelling over where the supposed Titanic still lies to this day. That Earthquake could have happened at any other time before or after in pretty much any other part of the Earth, just as the 'Olympic' could have been anywhere else but that Earthquake happened right underneath the ship at the exact time it was sailing over. A lot of seafarers are rather superstitious and with things like this happening at sea you can totally understand why, lol.
@TheWriterWalker5 жыл бұрын
@@young321bookie, thanks for that detailed response. I do think greed and pride were involved in the failure to outfit the ship with enough life boats. I do not, however, buy the insurance theory. Too many moving parts would have to be coordinated to pull off such a scenario, including getting Fleet's lookout actions, the helmsman's wrist action, and the iceberg to cooperate with a collision scheme! Come on, brother. Sometimes, bad things happen because people make poor decisions -- of which there were many that night, as you are aware. Not every tragedy or disaster is a hoax, is it?
@susiepittman6014 жыл бұрын
Ismay is played by the guy from the young and the restless. Played him in movie.
@rebeccatyndall19424 жыл бұрын
Eric Braden played John Jacob Astor in the Cameron version of Titanic.
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
Rebecca Tyndall Braeden but yes
@FischerFan4 жыл бұрын
I THOUGHT I recognized Eric Braeden's voice. Ol' Victor Newman is never one to mince words!
@ItWILLbeWONDERFUL_THERE4 жыл бұрын
Why wasn't the marconi operator ordered to turn on the machine? That could have saved lives. Even IF the Californian was 20 miles away, that's closer than the Carpathia was (50 miles ) . Had the Marconi operator been pressed into service, the Californian could have easily arrived in time to save the Titanic's passengers. It would have been a tight squeeze til the Carpathia arrived but at least people would have been saved.
@chiccachannel4 жыл бұрын
That is one of the many whys we'll never have an answer for...
@sandrastone70193 жыл бұрын
Destiny.
@madnatty3 жыл бұрын
@Popa good points. I think they could at least have lowered their own lifeboats and helped some people get into those.
@MarinelliBrosPodcast Жыл бұрын
It is interesting hearing Gloria Stuart who played Old Rose in the '97 film and Bernard Hill who played Captian Smith
@Sippe16 жыл бұрын
Oh, I thought I recognized a voice from Cameron's Titanic movie and I was right. Gloria Stuart as old Rose. Here she's heard as Helen W. Bishop.
@waynej.keeley70745 жыл бұрын
It is the late Gloria Stuart
@Holly1960-5 жыл бұрын
34:00
@mrs.elitenugz84915 жыл бұрын
Wayne J. Keeley 🙏😢💔🙏
@rosalynsmith52324 жыл бұрын
And victor Newman from the young and the restless
@rebeccatyndall19424 жыл бұрын
@@rosalynsmith5232 Yes. Eric Braeden.
@chrislondo26833 жыл бұрын
Interesting they had both the Old Rose and Captain Smith from the James Cameron movie and Simon Doonan who Tim Curry played from the 1996 TV movie which came out a year before the Cameron movie. Including Molly Brown played by the late Cloris Leachman from the 1979 TV movie S.O.S. Titanic since David Warner who was in the '97 movie as Lovejoy played Lawerence Beasley.
@marialuciaz80185 жыл бұрын
The testimony of the lady, passenger of the first class, revealed another mistake at the dreadful night, which is, if they manned a boat properly, with strong and able people to row, they might have reached the ship (Californian), so, her crew would have been warned and could have come to their rescue. Alguém do Brasil em 2019?
@unaninanine37435 жыл бұрын
A row boat would have been able to catch up with a mid size steamer... and also its wake? Okay.
@miklemikemuster4 жыл бұрын
Mrs.White sounded like a spoiled brat......1st class.
@CajunAdrienne4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't steaming away. They were stopped with engines off. They didn't start ship again until daylight.
@michaelbenitez5394 жыл бұрын
@@GeldardsHistory The ship they saw may had been the Samson she was doing illegal fishing in the area and could explain why the lights disappeared
@michaelbenitez5394 жыл бұрын
@@GeldardsHistory I believe both officers from Sampson and Californian saw Titanic that night and that Sampson was between Californian and Titanic
@fatmonet2 жыл бұрын
33:57 is the elderly actress that played Rose in James Cameron's Titanic. Did you notice her voice?
@SuperKrock54 жыл бұрын
Man I have mixed feelings about the man in the telegraph room
@LindaTCornwall5 жыл бұрын
David McCallum, who remembers him in Saphire and Steel in the late seventies lol... you don't seem him much now.
@sumanjanivinnakota20795 жыл бұрын
He also played Harold Bride, the radio operator of Titanic in the 1958 cult classic ‘A night to remember’.
@jeanrichard90345 жыл бұрын
I remeber him from the man from u n c l e
@DonnaBrooks5 жыл бұрын
@@jeanrichard9034 I was just going to ask if this is the same guy who was in The Man from U.N.C.L.E.! How long ago was this show made? I know it was after the Cameron film b/c Gloria Stuart is one of the women's voices. Even circa 2000, I would have expected him to look much older! Wasn't "UNCLE" on in the '60s? That would have been 30-40 years before this video was made! Damn, this guy doesn't age at all!
@RSEFX4 жыл бұрын
@@DonnaBrooks THE MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E. started filming 1964-65. He's been on NCIS since around 2003 in the role of "Ducky".
@auerstadt064 жыл бұрын
He is 86 years old as I write this. Not a lot of good roles for older folks.
@janebeman62594 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this, and have watched it twice. Also, I've read books about the hearings.
@karlastein31863 жыл бұрын
David was also in the Movie A night to Remember,in which he played one of the wireless operator,
@AniMerci5 жыл бұрын
Ismay. If “rowing away” from the ship, how do you not see it?
@TheWriterWalker5 жыл бұрын
One fictional depiction has him facing the ship as he rowed, yes, but bowing his head and closing his eyes to block out the sight. Maybe that?
@johnclayden16704 жыл бұрын
Rowing, one faces aft.
@TheWriterWalker4 жыл бұрын
@@johnclayden1670, thanks. I had to look up "aft" (smile).
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
Logan Jones. You know therefore but not the right their/there/they’re? Their means belonging to them, there is a location/situation, they’re is a contraction of they are. First grade stuff.
@myassizitchy3 жыл бұрын
@@Cassxowary that their was hilarious. It made me spit my coffee over theyre haha
@crazyfx52424 жыл бұрын
34:14 sounds like Old Rose from the Movie Titanic.. Glad I am not the only one who noticed that also
@digitalblasphemy11003 жыл бұрын
cause it is.
@TammyFox19893 жыл бұрын
They're using the people that were in the movie and some of their characters for this!
@flaminggaming52955 жыл бұрын
34:01 GLORIA STEWART 😁😁😁
@ThatDangerousWolf5 жыл бұрын
FlamingGaming52 It’s been 84 years...
@TheWriterWalker5 жыл бұрын
And Cloris Leachman. ☺
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
Stuart
@scottpool47774 жыл бұрын
Very very sad to Titanic you’re in my heart and in my soul.
@ItWILLbeWONDERFUL_THERE5 жыл бұрын
21:25 I think that's Marilu Henner. Second Officer Charles Lightoller is, of course, Tim Curry.
@TheWriterWalker5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out. I always liked Henner (I grew up during the "Taxi" era), but I wasn't aware of her extraordinary mind until a year or two ago.
@DanknDerpyGamer5 жыл бұрын
Man, David McCallum … I didn't know that the A&E Titanic Death of a Dream (and part 2, The Legend Lives on) documentaries were not the only ones he did.
@Ronbo7104 жыл бұрын
Brilliant voice.
@chiccachannel4 жыл бұрын
It's funny if you think about his role in NCIS...😁
@DanknDerpyGamer4 жыл бұрын
@@chiccachannel Yes indeed 😁
@p_nk72794 жыл бұрын
He was also in A Night to Remember - played one of the radio operators.
@SeanRCope5 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what this narrator looked like, weird. It’s never what I imagine. Loved his work on the A&E Titanic docudrama.
@nidgets5 жыл бұрын
Sean Cope he also played Harold bride in a night to remember.
@DonnaBrooks5 жыл бұрын
@@nidgets Holy Cow! This guy doesn't age at all! Even if this was done in 1998 (had to be after the Cameron film), that's still 40 years later! When was this program actually made?
@AvengerII4 жыл бұрын
Heh ehhehehehheheheh. David McCallum was FAR BETTER KNOWN for playing the role of Ilya Kuryakin in the original Man From UNCLE TV series. It was a very popular series in the 1960s but never quite got fully revived after the decade. (There was a reunion film in the 1980s but as far as I know that's the last UNCLE project with original cast members.) The only spy series from the 1960s still going strong are the James Bond movies. It's not bad that we know him better nowadays through association with Titanic in a few productions. A Night to Remember (1958) is STILL regarded as the most factual Titanic motion picture and Titanic: The Complete Story is admired by many Titanophiles as THE Titanic documentary. Quite a few actors have appeared in more than one Titanic production. It's a list of who's who (literally) of British actors -- David Warner, the late Bernard Fox, David McCallum as well as people who I know from one or another TV docudramas. The Eighth Doctor, Paul McGann, was in a Titanic docudrama. And, of course, the Tenth Doctor (David Tennant) had his encounter with a starship Titanic!
@alli-kat23294 жыл бұрын
Its Ducky from NCIS
@scabbycatcat42024 жыл бұрын
Might it have been possible to save the Titanic ? For example had they flooded say 3 or 4 of the STERN watertight compartments the Titanic would have simply sunk lower into the water on an EVEN keel and perhaps the internal level of the water might have reached the level of the sea BEFORE breaching the height of the watertight compartments ? Has this situation ever been considered ?
@Sumermak4 жыл бұрын
Eric braedon is reading as j Bruce ismay...
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
SSM Braeden but thanks, thought so
@tommybruner015 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating.
@ASUFAN-4 жыл бұрын
Ducky from NCIS 😍👍
@keepgoing19733 жыл бұрын
The man from U.N.C.L.E.
@AJ-wd5xc5 жыл бұрын
Voice for Joseph Ismay = Eric Braeden
@ItWILLbeWONDERFUL_THERE5 жыл бұрын
Victor Newman on Y&R? WOW !
@p_nk72794 жыл бұрын
And he played JJ Astor in the Cameron film.
@markusbrauns42743 жыл бұрын
Amazing. He portrayed John Jacob Astor, in the movie Titanic. Victor Newman lives on.
@CajunAdrienne4 жыл бұрын
What was considered a child? 10 and under? I saw a little boy that looked 12 and they told him to get back on the sinking ship.
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
CajunSweetTart child is 13 and under, 14 is when you were considered an adult because that’s when you were done school, and many went into service (servants) and didn’t go to high school, as that was for upper middle class people who wanted a career (teacher or nurse or such for females as most jobs were still for men), and Lowe was going to shoot a boy assuming he was of age, for trying to save himself, even if he looked like a child to Charlotte Collyer...
@AussieCarsRule4 жыл бұрын
@26:10 that's not a pre-Irish Free State map of the UK from 1912 ;)
@elrjames77994 жыл бұрын
Did Harold Bride have an Australian accent? If not, why give him one?
@DistractedGlobeGuy3 жыл бұрын
Sounds more like an American trying to do a Cockney accent (Bride was from London after all) and just not doing a very good job of it. Reminds me of a lot of amateur stage productions adapted from Dickens.
@lindarasco18733 жыл бұрын
@@DistractedGlobeGuy McCallim IS BRITOS
@DistractedGlobeGuy3 жыл бұрын
@@lindarasco1873 David McCallum is British, but he's not the actor voicing Bride.
@Ronbo7104 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the name of the re-enactment film of the hearings?
@rarevhsuploads49954 жыл бұрын
Save Or Souls: The Titanic Inquiry (2012). It’s based off the British Inquiry led by Lord Mersey.
@debmac2354 жыл бұрын
Two good ones: The Titanic Inquiry and Saving The Titanic-A Documentary. The Titanic Inquiry reenacts the hearings involving the Californian, and Saving The Titanic shows a little bit of the hearings from Lead Fireman Barrett (sp?). Both are excellent.
@DannyBoy7777775 жыл бұрын
Close ups dont help. Can see hes reading from a script, his eyes are not on the camera.
@madnatty5 жыл бұрын
I recently learned that on the list of survivors Carpathia sent, was Mr J. Bruce Ismay and Manservant. Where did this manservant come from? A man like him would certainly have had a manservant, so one assumes he was saved in the same lifeboat...like many ladies had their maids with them. I wonder why he is always portrayed as being alone during his efforts that night?
@ThatDangerousWolf5 жыл бұрын
Eternatty Wow good question about his manservant. I do know that several of the rich families made sure their maids and valets were saved. Ida Strauss actually gave up her lifeboat seat to her maid.
@bramijdema7593 жыл бұрын
He was travelling with three servants, one was listed as a crew member. All three of them died, Ismay personally paid for their funerals, gravestones and gave financial support to their families. No one knows what happened to them, I presume that during the chaos, Ismay forgot about his servants, or thought the situation wasn’t very serious until the final moments.
@tbhightower98446 жыл бұрын
Ismay claims he did not see the ship go down as he had his back to her since he was rowing the entire time. think about that one. if he was rowing away he would have been FACING the foundering ship. i bet he did have his back to her and was cowering in a corner and wasn't rowing shit.
@chanse24285 жыл бұрын
The media in the Titanic movie makes Ismay look like a POS. But in truth he helped numerous passengers get to boats, and yes he did get on a boat, but when it was for every man woman & child for themselves, well I would've got on a boat as well if the opportunity came.
@ThatDangerousWolf5 жыл бұрын
chanse2428 I feel so bad for him. That’s the way the media was back then, unfortunately.
@unaninanine37435 жыл бұрын
So you think you can only row away, facing? Okay...
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
Jack Elliot you can row away with your back to it too...
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
chanse2428 and he was ordered in it, and he donated a lot and started charities
@victorpalamar87694 жыл бұрын
Ismay said "The ship is sinking, abandon ship, women and children first, please follow me"!
@kaziras3423 жыл бұрын
A man from uncle
@cathylee63183 жыл бұрын
Such a senseless loss of life. 😢
@alanmichaelsen17615 жыл бұрын
My teacher made us watch this in 5th grade
@jackbrown37614 жыл бұрын
The narrator is duggie from NCIS.
@TankratRustDust4 жыл бұрын
Ducky
@mr.balloffur5 жыл бұрын
This is great but it doesn't follow the testimony exactly, they leave stuff out. It's best read it yourself.
@stephenwilson50434 жыл бұрын
Since the enquiry ran for 36 days its hardly surprising they had to leave stuff out :)
@mr.balloffur4 жыл бұрын
@GROWN WOMAN I read the complete transcript. A transcript is where someone writes down exactly what someone is saying under oath in a court proceeding. Still don't understand? Go upstairs and ask your mommy to help you.
@mr.balloffur4 жыл бұрын
@GROWN WOMAN up your meds.....
@mr.balloffur4 жыл бұрын
@GROWN WOMAN You so angry 😆😆😆😆😆
@mr.balloffur4 жыл бұрын
@GROWN WOMAN Ohhhh not your SON! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🙊🙉🙈
@cheedevulan85477 ай бұрын
Trust Ducky to narrate the documentary!
@SatelliteGalaxy Жыл бұрын
The Titanic did not sink because she struck an iceberg. She sank because of arrogance. The captain and crew of the Titanic had plenty of iceberg warnings. They more or less ignored them. At night, other ships in the vicinity had either stopped, or proceeded at a slow speed with double lookouts. I once to took the QE2 in the opposite direction. An announcement was made as we passed over the Titanic. (I much prefer to sail to Europe as opposed to flying.)
@elainekent70265 жыл бұрын
I do find it laughable the way Ismay was vilified, what would his death have gained, there would still have been hundreds lost.
@SeanRCope5 жыл бұрын
He should of at least got wet..... Coward, let the poor die I have an out.
@ThatDangerousWolf5 жыл бұрын
Sean Cope He helped load lifeboats and saved a lot of people. He was panicking so much on the deck trying to get the boats launched that Officer Lowe had to yell at him to leave the davit alone. And remember, he was just a passenger he wasn’t an officer or a sailor what else could you have expected him to do further than save as many lives as he could?
@SeanRCope5 жыл бұрын
Emily Carter So? He’s a rank coward. Many many men were turned away from the boats he was loading that night. He knew! Yet when an opportunity arose for him he did not hesitate. Typical posh coward. I’ve been into titanic for over 45 years. I’ve read pretty much everything. You won’t change my mind or the minds of the majority of his peers. It’s a horrible history. I don’t know why the sudden interest in trying to exonerate such a man now over 100 years after. It’s better to let it go like he did that night.
@ThatDangerousWolf5 жыл бұрын
Sean Cope I wasn’t trying to say I doubt your knowledge as I’m sure you aren’t saying you doubt mine. I just offered my point of view of Ismay as there are still many.
@TheWriterWalker5 жыл бұрын
Ismay made the decision to not equip the ship with enough lifeboats. The first designer had begged him to change his mind, but appearances and cabin fares were more important to Ismay. In effect, he murdered his passengers and then ran away.
@ItWILLbeWONDERFUL_THERE5 жыл бұрын
Who is the actor asking all the questions at the hearing? He sounds familiar.
@coryander13415 жыл бұрын
Almost sounds like Hal Holbrook.
@ItWILLbeWONDERFUL_THERE4 жыл бұрын
@@coryander1341 Thanks! 👋
@DavidBrown-jk2pm4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Jason Robards to me.
@trumpetedeagle24 жыл бұрын
Does it bother anyone else that hes looking to the right?
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
the crazy one teleprompter
@alexthompson52754 жыл бұрын
It's duckie of NCIS. so where is the bow tie
@stampede1223 жыл бұрын
Hi Ducky!!!!
@johnmamo6534 жыл бұрын
I was on the Titanic
@jamiedutton72574 жыл бұрын
NCIS Titanic
@bejoyful4 жыл бұрын
One of the best summaries of the never to be forgotten Titantic! Shame on Captain Lord and his first officers; shame on Ismay who cowardly entering a life boat and his presence certainly made Captain Smith continue with speed to beat the anticipated time of arrival; sadly, there was no mention on how the 3rd class passengers were treated, no wonder!
@michaelbenitez5394 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't blame Captain Lord they were scapegoated and Californian didn't have 24 hour wireless
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
Lots of Joy there was a double mirage, they couldn’t see properly, as didn’t the titanic passengers, and I’m glad he survived over someone else, he was far more able to help the survivors than any other...
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
Michael Benitez and they did their best, double mirage
@Rebelheart19853 жыл бұрын
Shame on you for blatantly stick to the tabloids for your “facts” Not only is there on evidence that Ismay EVER pressured the Captain but Titanic couldn’t even beat the damn Mauretania what’s so ever. Oh and sure: how dare a simple business man chose to board a half full lifeboat near the end of the ship’s life
@piperalpha55145 жыл бұрын
From 7:23 onwards he claims he did not see the ship go down because he was rowing away and had his back turned to the ship. BS... When you are rowing away you would be facing the object you are rowing away from. In addition, Ismay’s ship is sinking and he was not even in the slightest bit curious to see what was happening to his masterpiece? Yeah right!!!
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
Piper Alpha you can also row away with your back to it, smart one
@lozzylols2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone else realised this. I just went scrolling down the comments hoping to find I wasn't alone in working this out!
@LittleLulubee5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting. What is the music, please?
@brucemarquardt74224 жыл бұрын
Interesting...... and scary as hell.
@ZIGSVIDS4 жыл бұрын
20:20 min No mention of Titanic breaking half. 23:40 min It broke in half below the water line.
@chattjedi4 жыл бұрын
It wasnt confirmed that it broke in half until 1986.
@ZIGSVIDS4 жыл бұрын
@@chattjedi the evidence isn't there for It's stern to be sticking high in the air nd then breaking, broke under the water
@rosedewittbukater42033 жыл бұрын
I was there ! I survived!
@sandy44983 жыл бұрын
It’s too obvious he is reading to his left, is distracting to me
@alinagordelli8774 жыл бұрын
You are cordially invited to join the facebook group dedicated to Sir Arthur Rostron facebook.com/groups/1131529347238910/
@marietafernandez10984 жыл бұрын
So sad all those poor people could of been save the California sa sad
@Brentsfriend5 жыл бұрын
James Cameron is a hack! He lies! He copied most of the good stuff from "A Night to Remember" Titanic movie and added the lame romance story line... Can't wait for "Dances with Wolves"... I mean, Avatar.
@ItWILLbeWONDERFUL_THERE4 жыл бұрын
You're right. There are lines from various versions before. Like when that guy...Rose's fiance was swearing and Rose's mother cautioned, "Language." RIGHT out of a scene from Night to Remember with Officer Lightholler and his wife. " With me, Ma'am, it's the honor of serving the company. To hell with the pay!" Mrs. L. :(smiling) Language.
@Michael-hz2pl4 жыл бұрын
Oh shut up What the fuck is he supposed to do? He wanted to stay as close to being historically accurate as possible. It was all the same for the director of A Night to Remember I’m sorry you’re too uneducated on the subject to understand that
@scottpool47774 жыл бұрын
Brentsfriend James Cameron is a hack he’s the worst kind.
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
It’s not copied it’s inspired by it and a more modern version to appeal to modern audiences at the same time. If you don’t like it, don’t watch. I can’t stand him right now either but don’t bitch about things you’re not forced to watch.
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
it takes a special kind of annoying person to complain about things you don’t even have to watch/listen to/whatever... don’t you have anything better to do than be a pain in the ass for no damn reason?
@ThatDangerousWolf5 жыл бұрын
10:00 I like how the Californian isn’t on the map....🤔🤔🤔
@DonnaBrooks5 жыл бұрын
It was so close to Titanic that at this scale of drawing, it would have been right on top of it.
@zakiranderson7225 жыл бұрын
OMG I'm getting angry listening to ismay's account. 🤮
@brutuslee90395 жыл бұрын
Yes he was a despicable coward....
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
Brutus Lee not at all, he did great. He was told to get in ABD saved others AND donated a lot AND started charities, and if he had died someone else would’ve survived, someone who couldn’t have made such a difference.
@ajrwilde142 жыл бұрын
@@Cassxowary lots of children died come on
@odettewiddicombe66734 жыл бұрын
He has since passaway David m
@stephenwilson50434 жыл бұрын
?? David is still alive and well and acting in NCIS at 88 years of age !
@davidcraig99384 жыл бұрын
I think if I could see the Californian's lights in the distance I would have fired up the Titanic's engines and cruised towards here instead of just sitting their sinking and waiting to die.
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
david craig 99 double mirage, neither parties were sure of what they saw
@charlesdarnay54554 жыл бұрын
@@Cassxowary Listen again to the testimony, particularly Mrs. White in this case. "It was clearly a ship of some sort... we all saw it distinctly..." or words to that effect. Titanic's people knew they could see a ship. On the Californian, the officers on watch saw and reported 8 rockets to Capt Lord. Ernest Gill said clearly it was a large ship about 10 miles away. The problem was Capt Lord himself who didn't bother to go out on deck and see for himself. Had he done so, and had he seen what his officers were seeing, he would have had to commit to action. He stayed instead in his chartroom.
@charlesdarnay54554 жыл бұрын
The Titanic's hull had been ripped open for more than a third of her length. It would have been dangerous to attempt to move again once the engines had stopped. It would have forced more water into the hull, faster, and possibly caused more damage to the hull.
@DistractedGlobeGuy3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, by the time the lights were spotted, most of the pressure had already been vented out of the main steam pipe and the boilers had been shut down completely to prevent a potential explosion.
@seriouslyyoujest17713 жыл бұрын
The women amazing, the surviving men, a pack of cowards. I imagine they all died a thousand cuts.
@aocplusme56763 жыл бұрын
Lol hardcore delusional
@allenbass61692 жыл бұрын
Put yourself in their place. You wouldn't have wanted to live?
@derrickjones78625 жыл бұрын
Insurance fraud....
@ThatDangerousWolf5 жыл бұрын
Derrick Jones Oh, shut up.
@joefera89475 жыл бұрын
Titanic was under insured. They lost a lot of money.
@adamsapple71935 жыл бұрын
Derrick Jones you’re an extra large douche
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
Also, the number the titanic was registered to is the one at the bottom of the Atlantic. Genius.
@TheWriterWalker5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like there were TWO fools in the Titanic's telegraph room. Moral: Don't put the lives of hundreds of people into the hands of the immature.
@TheWriterWalker5 жыл бұрын
@@GeldardsHistory, AFTER the fact.
@TheWriterWalker5 жыл бұрын
@@GeldardsHistory, even the U.S. senator, when questioning Bride, revealed the same lack of understanding I have. Does it take less time to call someone a fool by Marconi device, the senator asked, than it does to tell someone, "We are sinking and need help"? The senator, in pressing Bride on this matter, was trying to highlight the foolishness of Phillips' using precious time to call someone a fool when he could have used the same time to repeat his pleas for help. Bride's defending the action reveals he still didn't see the foolishness in Phillips' response. That said, I do admire Phillips for staying to the very end. I can't know if I would be as courageous under similar circumstances, and his diligence until death is praiseworthy. But being that diligent in delivering the most crucial message (from the Masaba), and not being snappy with TWO operators when one was trying to warn Titanic and the other was seeking to help, would have been most admirable and would have saved the ship.
@TheWriterWalker5 жыл бұрын
@@GeldardsHistory, we will never know if the bridge, upon hearing that a huge iceberg was directly in its path, would have taken more defensive actions (the captain had already decided to take the southerly route to avoid the ice). We'll never know because Phillips never delivered that most important message.
@TheWriterWalker5 жыл бұрын
@@GeldardsHistory, I have a Titanic playlist on my channel and have listened to Bride and the hearings and other accounts. I believe my sources say that Phillips did not deliver the Masaba's message to the bridge. Phillips and Captain Smith and Ismay all share responsibility for that tragedy. The California's Marconi operator is to be commended for trying to help Phillips avoid disaster. No matter how loud the wire screech, Phillips' snotty, "Shut up!" was both unprofessional and deadly.
@Cassxowary4 жыл бұрын
Also, it wasn’t up to them, they followed orders AND did all they could!
@dradden12634 жыл бұрын
Boring
@rianelopez49485 жыл бұрын
Ismay was that guy with a moustache in the di caprio film right?
@Moey_Tank5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@alexthompson52754 жыл бұрын
And the coward of the Titanic
@Ronbo7104 жыл бұрын
The younger guy with the moustache yes. The older guy with the moustache was supposed to be Col. Archibald Gracie.
@alexthompson52754 жыл бұрын
@Logan Jones. and neither were you fool. Read the Wikipedia