The Top 5 Places We Could Colonize In Our Solar System | Answers With Joe

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For the human race to continue in the far future, we're going to have to live beyond planet Earth. Here are the 5 best options in our own solar system.
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The 5 best options for colonizing in our solar system are:
The moon
Mars
Europa
Titan
Venus
The moon
Gravity: 1/6 that of earth
Air pressure: none
Temperature: extreme (253 in sun, -253 in shade)
- Why go - a place to launch to other places
Orbiting at 2288 mph (3683 kph) - significant boost
Advantages: Instant communication with Earth
Good place to learn how to colonize where Experts are available 24/7
Advantages: Lighter gravity means we could build bigger there
Advantages: could dome over craters to create housing
Advantages: water ice in some pole craters
One place we have talked a lot about is Mars
Mars
Gravity: Just over 1/3 (38%)
Air Pressure: .6% if Earth’s
Temperature: 70 in day (20C), -100 at night (-73C)
Why go: Most comfortable temperature-wise and gravity-wise, but pressure is still abysmal
Down-side: Thin atmosphere means not enough to support life but enough to make landings difficult.
Terraforming option - most potential for terraforming. Melting ice caps could pump CO2 into the air and thicken the atmosphere as well as warm the planet
Europa
Gravity: 13% of Earth’s
Air pressure: barely exists - mostly oxygen
Temperature: -260F -160C
This seems like a swing and a miss, but there’s something interesting under the surface of Europa
Tidal heating causes a sea of liquid water beneath the surface.
One of the best options for finding life in the solar system
Underwater habitats might be the answer.
Downside: radiation carried by Jupiter’s magnetic field would pose an issue
Titan
Gravity: 13% of Earth’s
Air pressure: 1.5x that of Earth
Temperature: -290F, -179C
Of all the places in the solar system, Titan’s air pressure is most like Earth’s
You could just walk around on the surface without a suit, except for the fact that it’s so cold methane flows in rivers.
Could use the methane for fuel
But I promised something controversial, and here it is, my personal favorite option for colonizing another planet… Venus.
Venus
Gravity: 91% of Earth’s
Air Pressure: 100x that of Earth
Temperature: 872F, 467C
Now I know what you’re saying, you’re saying Joe, that only meets one of the three criteria, how can you possibly pick that as your number one?
Because those numbers are for the planet’s surface. Up in the clouds, it’s a different story.
Venus’ air pressure is insane. On the surface, it would crush you like a soda can. But about 50 kilometers up in the atmosphere, it’s about the same as here.
Which means that just like a ship can float on top of the water, we could build colonies that float on the upper atmosphere of Venus.
It would still be hot, but manageable.
And I know people will always say, but what if you fall? Or if you drop something, you’ll never get it back. Well, I go back to the ship on the sea analogy. If you fall off the boat, you’re likely to drown. If you drop your phone over the side, you’ll never see it again. But we still have cruise ships carrying thousands of people and entire navies floating around out there.
Plus the communication time would be smaller than anywhere else.

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@jshepard152
@jshepard152 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Gene Cernan mention. Cernan went to the moon not once, but twice. And he was a classy guy. About a year before his death I sent him a copy of his book and asked him to autograph it to my son, who was 2 at the time. A few weeks later I got it back. It read "Dear Elliott, for you the sky will never be the limit. From the moon! Gene Cernan, commander, Apollo 17." Cernan really wanted to inspire the next generation and he never stopped advocating for space exploration. He really was a hero.
@wolf1066
@wolf1066 4 жыл бұрын
OK. That got me crying. What a cool dude he was.
@dinnerwithfranklin2451
@dinnerwithfranklin2451 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool story. He does sound a classy guy
@RealBradMiller
@RealBradMiller Жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Thank you for sharing. ☺️
@shirleymental4189
@shirleymental4189 5 жыл бұрын
Sulfuric acid clouds ain't so bad. I went to Beijing once.
@maxdembroski7956
@maxdembroski7956 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny Solipsis yeah, until you cough up a lung.
@nightlightabcd
@nightlightabcd 4 жыл бұрын
And it would only cost a hundred trillion dollars! And since the people that make most of the money, don't pay taxes, like Trump, I guess they could afford it! Especially if they cab use the government to have working people pay for i8t!
@jairofthecosmos5022
@jairofthecosmos5022 4 жыл бұрын
@Tom Meyers why you racist?
@annferguson3113
@annferguson3113 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Meyers Everything was okay until you showed up. Hate channels (CNN and TYT you guys flock there) is 👉🏻 way.
@Yumemaru.
@Yumemaru. 4 жыл бұрын
😭
@michaelklim8277
@michaelklim8277 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, if humans haven't figured out how to spread out to at least Alpha Centauri by the time the sun explodes, do we really deserve to escape?
@tanmoysd2721
@tanmoysd2721 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree. Sun explosion is so far in the future that we don't even have to consider it. There will be thousands of mass extinction event from now to that point. And we have to escape earth before the first one hit earth.
@notlogical4016
@notlogical4016 4 жыл бұрын
honestly, which is why i cant wait for 2022 and 2024 for elon musk to send the first full fledged space ships to mars
@donkeyslayer4661
@donkeyslayer4661 4 жыл бұрын
You're kinda dim, aren't you? When the sun explodes billions and billions of years from now, Homo Sapians won't even be a.distant memory.
@beanbandit495
@beanbandit495 4 жыл бұрын
@@donkeyslayer4661 no, you're just a pessimist
@anotheruser676
@anotheruser676 4 жыл бұрын
@@beanbandit495 yes, because after that much time Homo Sapiens will be incredibly far back in the species tree.
@xscale
@xscale 5 жыл бұрын
Venus is actually much, much better than you suggest. While sulfuric acid is a problem at 50K up, the almost Earth-normal pressure, temperature and gravity at that altitude make it vastly easier than any of your other selections. And we can generate water from the sulfuric acid so it's actually a massive advantage if treated properly. A balloon filled with Earth atmosphere has about the same buoyancy in Venus's atmosphere as a Helium balloon on Earth so there's no need for any kind of power supply to maintain altitude. And a key point you missed: thanks to Venus's upper atmosphere above you and greater proximity to the sun, you experience vastly less cosmic radiation than Mars or any of the outer moons. Finally ... low gravity, it turns out, is deadly to humans. Astronauts spending just a year in it come back with permanent disabilities. That means the Moon, Mars and the outer moons aren't places we can colonise without far better genetic engineering tech than we're likely to manage this century. McKendree cylinders inside asteroids are still safer, easier and more profitable places to live than floating cities on Venus ... but if we're going to colonise another planet, Venus is emphatically it. Also Venus is a better prospect for terraforming than Mars. Much easier to change the composition of an atmosphere through a bioengineered trophic cascade than by nuking the poles ... and nuking Mars's poles doesn't do a thing to fix its radiation and gravity problems. Venus is the closest thing to a second Earth we're ever going to get. But easier still to use algae farming to fix our carbon pollution problems right here on Earth and then get on with terraforming Antarctica and the Sahara. Both of which are far more hospitable and accessible than Mars or Venus.
@Knackebrodz
@Knackebrodz 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent points. I fear we will see a future war for resources on the Antarctic and as for colonizing, it's harsh but doable.
@ryanmoss7512
@ryanmoss7512 4 жыл бұрын
Good points, but you'd always be earth or space dependent. Mining resources would be much more of a pain then on most of the other suggested targets. You could put some cool outposts there, but actual colonization would be tough.
@givememybaconplz6061
@givememybaconplz6061 4 жыл бұрын
There is no future on Venus.. When the sun becomes red gaint it swallow the planets even our own planet earth. Mars should be one to focus on.
@drjojo5551
@drjojo5551 4 жыл бұрын
Knackebrodz dude...why don't you move your family and all your shit into an underground metal tube and start living the good space colonist's life!! AND if you get enough of living the life of a mole....why open the hatch and grab some clean air and maybe some rays!! Hell......you could even go to the beach and check out some ass!!!
@drjojo5551
@drjojo5551 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Moss dude....practice here in the Gobi, the Sahara, or if cold is your pleasure Siberia or northern Canada!! AND let's see just how long you and the wifey and the kids would last in your underground condo????
@ishouldhavetried
@ishouldhavetried 6 жыл бұрын
So live on Mars, store our supplies on the moon, get our water from Europa, and import oxygen from Titan. I like it.
@kentharris7427
@kentharris7427 5 жыл бұрын
We can haul a Neutron star to Mars for energy since they're only 20 km in diameter and build a Dyson sphere around it!
@louiscabrera7552
@louiscabrera7552 5 жыл бұрын
I don't like the water from their to much sulphuric acid in in for my taste.
@jrag1000
@jrag1000 5 жыл бұрын
that's the fantastic thing about chemistry, we can filter and cleanse resources and also convert resources.
@verfassungspatriot
@verfassungspatriot 5 жыл бұрын
and make holidays on Venus :D
@GHOST-be9wo
@GHOST-be9wo 5 жыл бұрын
Titan has no oxygen, import it from Europa as well 😂
@jimgreen3966
@jimgreen3966 4 жыл бұрын
Woh, living above Venus would be like living on Cloud City.
@drjojo5551
@drjojo5551 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah!!! No cars, no bullet trains,but best of all NO COPS!!!!
@SeeIHaveFriends
@SeeIHaveFriends 4 жыл бұрын
Like the one from og Star Wars?
@morganblackpowder1724
@morganblackpowder1724 4 жыл бұрын
Jim Green this guy gets it :D
@CarlosAM1
@CarlosAM1 4 жыл бұрын
@@drjojo5551 no cops means complete anarchy and if theres complete anarchy then I can just kill everyone.
@marcuswelch4515
@marcuswelch4515 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosAM1 No cops means that more people would arm themselves and the private security sector would trend upwards.
@dalemartin815
@dalemartin815 5 жыл бұрын
8:57 A fart so cold, that it runs down your leg. 😵
@hendrsb33
@hendrsb33 4 жыл бұрын
eeewwwwww!
@garethhughes5745
@garethhughes5745 4 жыл бұрын
Quality :D
@randomuser5443
@randomuser5443 4 жыл бұрын
Dale Martin pain
@nightlightabcd
@nightlightabcd 3 жыл бұрын
Totally uncouth and stupid! I'm betting you're a Psycho Don supporter!
@zealandia5668
@zealandia5668 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@ValensBellator
@ValensBellator 4 жыл бұрын
It just seems like the moon would be such a good place to practice. I wish we’d started down that road sooner.
@fallendown8828
@fallendown8828 3 жыл бұрын
"we should have a Moon base by now, it is 2017. What is going on?" -Elon Musk
@aarontoussaint8364
@aarontoussaint8364 2 жыл бұрын
@@fallendown8828 Elon Musk is a moron.
@aarontoussaint8364
@aarontoussaint8364 2 жыл бұрын
An orbital colony would be cheaper.
@ej28
@ej28 2 жыл бұрын
@@aarontoussaint8364 Definitely not initially. If you mean low Earth orbit humanity has no future staying so close to Earth.
@oilersridersbluejays
@oilersridersbluejays 4 жыл бұрын
I'm your Venus, I'm your fire, Your desire.
@erichalvor516
@erichalvor516 4 жыл бұрын
NOW IT'S STUCK IN MY HEAD
@Majinbeck_exe
@Majinbeck_exe 4 жыл бұрын
Ludwig van Beethoven hi Mr. Wolfgang
@oilersridersbluejays
@oilersridersbluejays 4 жыл бұрын
@@Majinbeck_exe you have me confused with someone else...
@parachuteguy3992
@parachuteguy3992 3 жыл бұрын
@@oilersridersbluejays Beethoven Haydn Mozart Shubert Brahms Tchaikovsky Bach Handel Chopin Liszt Strauss
@zrebbesh
@zrebbesh 4 жыл бұрын
I will take would-be interplanetary colonists more seriously after they demonstrate their basic technological competence by establishing and maintaining self-sufficient colonies in Antarctica and somewhere deep on the ocean floor. Both are far easier than the interplanetary targets.
@morganblackpowder1724
@morganblackpowder1724 4 жыл бұрын
I never really thought of it that way, but your statement makes a lot of sense :D
@fallendown8828
@fallendown8828 3 жыл бұрын
Dude this is so true! But also we need a Mars colony too because it is the easyest to make than your idea and THEN the other planets/moons if necessary
@Kaylee-Renee
@Kaylee-Renee 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. Antarctica is resource poor, yes we could spend a fortune to set it up but solar power would be useless 6 months of the year and theres no other fuel source unless we ship it in. The sea floor the pressure is extreme and we couldn't build on a planet that had that kind of gravity for the same reason. Both it would be stupid to mine we'd only cause further problems to the only planet we have right now. Mars and the moon would be good for base camps as being crushed isnt an issues and we can make power.
@LordPhobos6502
@LordPhobos6502 2 жыл бұрын
You're right, building a prototype moon/mars base in Antartica as a test run would be a good way to start ironing out some of the bugs, at far less cost, and we can send lunar soil analogue to test remote manufacturing techniques as well 🙂
@aarontoussaint8364
@aarontoussaint8364 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kaylee-Renee wind power is pretty much limitless in Antarctica.
@izzynobre
@izzynobre 3 жыл бұрын
7:55 I think he’s talking about Jupiter’s magnetosphere, not gravity, here.
@md.zimamahmed9584
@md.zimamahmed9584 2 жыл бұрын
The gravity of Jupiter compresses the whole planet a bit which is what he is talking about And after that he talks about magnetosphere which sort of funnels the radiation to Europa
@christianjensen952
@christianjensen952 2 жыл бұрын
Yes 👍
@BobbyCoggins
@BobbyCoggins 5 жыл бұрын
O'Neill Cylinders! Why fight a gravity well when you can spin up your own gravity and build your own habitat to suit your desires?
@v1.61
@v1.61 4 жыл бұрын
lol tell that to the fluid in your ears mate :)
@akapilka
@akapilka 3 жыл бұрын
@@v1.61 Earth also rotates, you know? A cylinder big enough needs less rotation speed, and thus it'll be more similar to Earth's gravity and the Coriolis effect (also the orientation and equilibrium problem) will be unnoticeable. It's theorised that a cylinder with just 4km of diameter is big enough to pretty much nullify all of the weird effects of artificial gravity. And the bigger, the slower, and the slower the merrier. It's just a matter of design and size.
@aldri346
@aldri346 3 жыл бұрын
@@akapilka if its big enough to not be confusing for our sensors its big enough to collapse to gravity
@akapilka
@akapilka 3 жыл бұрын
@@aldri346 collapse to gravity in a Lagrange point in the middle of space... Sure.
@aldri346
@aldri346 3 жыл бұрын
@@akapilka dumbass under its own gravity
@KrisBendix
@KrisBendix 7 жыл бұрын
This list nicely confirms my idea. Do what peoples say - colonize the space... The Space. Not a planet. Work more on developing easy to build and maintain centrifugal space stations and ships. Much more manageable. Can adjust the environment perfectly. Can live almost anywhere in space, as long as it is not too close to Jupiter, Sun etc. And can live in the orbits of any potential planets for future colonization and work on terraforming before landing on them.
@DagarCoH
@DagarCoH 7 жыл бұрын
In principle sure, this is something we should also do (and are more or less training for with the several space stations we had and have), but I think it is not really easier than having a colony on any rocky planet (or in the clouds of Venus for that matter). The advantages are that you are independent from any local natural disaster and that you do not need any landing technology, the disadvantages are the long term exposures to space hazards like micro meteorites and radiation alongside the hazards the body you would want to orbit poses, and the lack of material. Once we can get the the Asteroid belt, the last one will be no problem (along with the first ones, possibly), but that is quite a far away Once.
@KrisBendix
@KrisBendix 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Well, as far as I understand (correct me if I'm wrong) then the biggest problem is the cosmic rays and other harmful forms of radiation. Perhaps there would be ways around with some light weight structure to reflect or absorb them. I'm sure many solutions have been considered. If can't, then we could perhaps use a bit of the Moon. It is easier to get stuff in the Moons orbit after all. Maybe launch the stuff from Moon on a maglev. What is the Moons orbiting velocity? 4000 km/h? Doable on maglev in a vacuum. And when it comes to centrifugal construction, then it could mostly be held together by cables. They would be "hanging" from the center at one G if I get it right. One G is doable too. We are doing it all the time on the Earth. So Moon could be necessary, yes. But we already did it before. A piece of cake. Or... piece of cheese rather. :p And we don't have to build Elysium sized thing right away.
@CarFreeSegnitz
@CarFreeSegnitz 7 жыл бұрын
DagarCoH In space or on a planetary surface you're faced with having to maintain an Earth atmosphere. The additional pain in the butt for a planetary surface is that you have to bring that habitat down a gravity well. Or you could build a habitat from scratch, an option available on a planetary surface or free space using asteroid materials. The end results will be different. On a planetary surface you will be stuck with the gravity you've got. In free-space you can choose whatever gravity suits your fancy. Go zero G for endless acrobatic fun but incur health hazards. Go 1-G for ideal comfort. Go a partial G to acclimatize to living on one of the smaller planetary bodies. Go over 1-G for the ultimate athletic training. A space habitat makes a great jumping off point for other space activities. Putting down on a planetary body means having to claw back out of the body's gravity well to go home or on to any other space destination. Going anywhere else from a free-space habitat is just a matter of letting go and light up a low-thrust/high-isp rocket. A free space habitat only differs from an ultra-luxury space liner by the addition of rockets. For extreme crewed missions you can't beat a spinning habitat for elbow room.
@DagarCoH
@DagarCoH 7 жыл бұрын
Lenard Segnitz yeah, I know that. First of all, you can also have rotating habitats on bodies with less than earth gravity to simulate 1G. Second of all my point is that you need to get the material to space first in order to construct your space craft. Asteroids will do, obviously, but they are hard to come by from down here in a usable form. You would need to get humans out to the Asteroid belt to construct the ships there (or have robots construct it and send the humans afterwards), and we have been nowhere even remotely there with manned missions. The amount of matter you need as far as current tech goes to have a sustainable ship for years are just mind blowing; far more than we can reasonably bring up here from Earth. Now we could bring matter up from the Moon, but for that we would need some form of permanently manned settlement there first. All imho, I am no expert in this field. And btw. Isaac Arthur talks in one of his videos about it being more expensive to bring stuff from the Asteroid belt to Earth (e.g. to construct a ship out of it close to home) than bringing stuff up from here, so that won't work either (unless we maybe catch an Asteroid happening to come close by, but this is also something very dangerous and never done before).
@CarFreeSegnitz
@CarFreeSegnitz 7 жыл бұрын
DagarCoH Getting materials from the asteroid belt is a long game. Getting materials from Near-Earth-Objects would kill two birds with one stone. NEOs are energetically far easier to get to than the asteroid belt, some even easier than the surface of the Moon. NEOs are a collision threat, mining them into non-existence removes that threat. We could start with Apophis which is expected to make a close call in 2029 and maybe again in 2036. Bennu would also make a tempting target as it's a potential collision threat in about 800 years. I've heard many schemes for setting up planet-bound centrifuges. All of them suffer from constant energy inputs and moving parts that will wear out. And they sit at the bottom of a planetary gravity well. Free-space habitats once brought up to the appropriate spin rate stay that way. I grant we need to work out the necessary tech for docking, power, shielding. Docking is "easy" at the center of spin, the only point of zero gravity in a spinning habitat. Shielding could be cinched by constructing a non-rotating outer shell then mounting the habitat inside and attached by the axis. Shielding is going to heavy necessitating asteroid materials. Launching it from Earth will be far too expensive even if SpaceX manages its dream of dropping its price to 1% the current going rate. Shielding doesn't have to fancy: a thick layer of rock to deal with collisions and a decent layer of water or ice as radiation shielding. Build in a door to facilitate comings and goings. Communications arrays and solar collectors could be build on the outside where it's expected to remain in zero G. Power will have to be transferred wirelessly between the shell and the habitat. I can't think of any scheme whereby an extension cord wouldn't get twisted to hell in short order. My best guess would be paired induction rings at the axis where the spinning hab meets the shield structure.
@Trebseig
@Trebseig 7 жыл бұрын
Or forget about them problematic planets & moons, instead built fleets of huge spaceships.
@lucth16
@lucth16 7 жыл бұрын
Indeed, I was thinking the same thing. Why not colonize space? We'd control everything on spaceships.
@timgermanyjr
@timgermanyjr 7 жыл бұрын
I agree. Wall E style. With no engineering limitations in space you could build large enough space stations to house hundreds of thousands of people. Since we can control the air pressure and generate artificial gravity it's def the most likely scenario. Plus, if an asteroid is on its way it can just move out the way.
@TheReal_ist
@TheReal_ist 7 жыл бұрын
Luc Sasaki Were looking at planets because it's something that is stable. But not so extreme like space which has zero gravity zero air pressure. And is extremely cold. Trying to build off from warmer temps, actual gravity, and some air pressure is far better. Than building an entire earth I. Space from scratch.
@CarFreeSegnitz
@CarFreeSegnitz 7 жыл бұрын
The Realist Perhaps you missed it but Mars, Europa and Titan are far harder to deal with temperature-wise than vacuum space. Thermal conduction is vastly more efficient at transfering heat than a vacuum. Setting down on the three outer targets will incur far more heating for the colonists. Venus does have the advantage of providing a shirt-sleeve temperature at a roughly Earth-pressure atmosphere. A vacuum is the gold standard for insulation. Heat does transfer through a vacuum but only through radiation. A habitat in the vacuum of space just needs appropriate mirrors or shading to maintain ideal temperature.
@KrisBendix
@KrisBendix 7 жыл бұрын
A lot of people have this idea. Let's do it.
@fuckoffgoogle8199
@fuckoffgoogle8199 5 жыл бұрын
Metric units are cool too.
@adnanjusic4890
@adnanjusic4890 5 жыл бұрын
Or use both type ;)
@clerouxify
@clerouxify 4 жыл бұрын
either divide or multiply by 25.4 to convert between units
@alexrood2115
@alexrood2115 4 жыл бұрын
@@adnanjusic4890 in Britain we use both
@bingola45
@bingola45 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexrood2115 Scientists use Metric, normal people use normal.
@alexrood2115
@alexrood2115 4 жыл бұрын
@@bingola45 Yeah
@untruelie2640
@untruelie2640 4 жыл бұрын
Venus would also be my top candidate. We could extract water, hydrogen, oxygen and potenially even carbon from it's atmosphere. There is still the problem that Venus' rotation is extremely slow, but the upper parts of the atmosphere go around the planet about every 4-5 days, so there would be day and night periods of about 2 days - which is manageable for humans, I suppose.
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 6 жыл бұрын
Joe: you have an exceptionally good, entertaining and unique style. WELL DONE and Thanks!
@joescott
@joescott 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that, thanks!
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 6 жыл бұрын
(Not to overlook the intelligent content of course as none of us would be here without that. :-) ) Definitely one of my faves.
@Brinta3
@Brinta3 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Scott Insightful videos, very well explained. But... I hate the amount of cuts you use. Some videos are worse offenders than others (the reasons not to go to Mars video had very short shots). You say one sentence, cut to the next shot where you say one sentence, cut... etc. It’s terribly annoying for the eyes to see you skipping from place to place on the screen. It’s tiring to watch. Maybe try saying... three sentences in a row? The weird thing is that you seem to do it very much on purpose, because you reposition yourself with every cut.
@TheOneTonHammer
@TheOneTonHammer 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t melting the poles on mars only be a temporary fix? With no magnetic protection, the new atmosphere would just get blown off into space like the original, right?
@earshotmedia7629
@earshotmedia7629 5 жыл бұрын
TheOneTonHammer Perhaps a large moon would create enough tidal forces in Mars' interior to create a molten core and potentially a magnetosphere. Lotta work, though.
@beringstraitrailway
@beringstraitrailway 5 жыл бұрын
No, it would take millions of years for that to happen.
@earshotmedia7629
@earshotmedia7629 5 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Lewis I thought Terraforming acknowledged timescales like that.
@theepicchaos101
@theepicchaos101 5 жыл бұрын
One idea is to build a super magnet and put in orbit around Mars to act as an artificial magnetic field
@earshotmedia7629
@earshotmedia7629 5 жыл бұрын
EpicChaos I wonder if an electrical current can be run through a modified orbital ring to produce a giant electromagnet. Two birds with one stone? I think Isaac Arthur would approve.
@hermeticxhaote4723
@hermeticxhaote4723 4 жыл бұрын
If they required kids to read good science fiction we could have the world we want.
@erichalvor516
@erichalvor516 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@hermeticxhaote4723
@hermeticxhaote4723 3 жыл бұрын
@@holdyup1037 yes, also Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds.
@jaysonmokhwanatsi7365
@jaysonmokhwanatsi7365 3 жыл бұрын
Agg yes force people to have the same interests as us.. How ethical
@hakaandavor2789
@hakaandavor2789 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaysonmokhwanatsi7365 I mean from where I’m from religion is forced on you the second you enter school and nobody bats an eye, but I guess teaching kids about the possibilities of the future is “Unethical”
@fallendown8828
@fallendown8828 3 жыл бұрын
Are you talking abouth Elon Musk? Because i know for a fact he was reading some galactic civilization books and look where he did ended up. He is gonna colonize the Mars before 2030! THIS IS AWSOME
@SciHeartJourney
@SciHeartJourney 4 жыл бұрын
We should try to colonize the deserts of the Southwest. If you can't make it there, you won't have a chance at surviving in space.
@joegerhard615
@joegerhard615 3 жыл бұрын
Whats the point in that?
@paulallen2680
@paulallen2680 2 жыл бұрын
Oil
@Rasaevire
@Rasaevire 2 жыл бұрын
Southwest of what? What country, celestial body? THE SAUCE? Please clarify I can sleep because of this comment
@a.c.1605
@a.c.1605 5 жыл бұрын
You missed a golden chance to reference Cloud City with the Venus explanation!
@as07011
@as07011 4 жыл бұрын
but others did not miss it
@randysmith9715
@randysmith9715 4 жыл бұрын
Once you have climbed out of a gravity well, why would you go back into the well??? Build a habitat in high orbit OR one of the Lagrange points and live there. Solar power is free and plentiful.
@yvanpajevic9680
@yvanpajevic9680 4 жыл бұрын
I know...nobody seems to get that. Once you're out of the G well you want to STAY close to earth and enjoy what protection you can from the magnetic shield. For a serious colony/outpost we still need a planet and Mars is the obvious choice...any other selection and the difficulty level gets much higher.
@CarlosAM1
@CarlosAM1 4 жыл бұрын
@@yvanpajevic9680 titan and venus are way easier than mars.
@CarlosAM1
@CarlosAM1 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but the solar panels break and are really toxic
@MattChez
@MattChez 3 жыл бұрын
Because microgravity causes major health problems is why.
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 3 жыл бұрын
Osteoporosis?!?!?!
@chloewright1
@chloewright1 4 жыл бұрын
@Joe Scott I absolutely love your videos! I only found your channel fairly recently, but you're already my favourite youtuber. The topics are always interesting and I really love the way you present the videos and engage with your audience. Plus you're funny and rather handsome, so that helps! Love from the UK 😊😘
@anthonyraines7867
@anthonyraines7867 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to tell how much I like your show, (one of my favorites). Your sense of humor has me rolling sometimes. Informative and humorous. THX.
@septegram
@septegram 4 жыл бұрын
Living US presidents is more exclusive, with just five.
@sally4388
@sally4388 7 жыл бұрын
1. With Europe you can always add Callisto and Ganymede. They are very similar, all probably have underwater oceans, Ganimede even has the magnetic field and Callisto is very far from Jupiter and its deadly radiation belts. 2. On Mercury's poles there are places of eternal shadow that have ice in them. So you can live there and use the energy of the Sun and if you put a tower there, it would be in the eternal light of the Sun. 3. Ceres, because this close Dwarf planet is not different if you managed to get Moon colony already.
@CarFreeSegnitz
@CarFreeSegnitz 7 жыл бұрын
ᕳᖊ ᖹᘂᗩᖌᖋ ᘒᗜᖶ ᘈ I'd add that Ceres is believed to be roughly 30% water by weight. Ceres weighs roughly 9.29 * 10^20 kg, so there's roughly 3 * 10^20 kg of water. That's more than enough water for humanity's needs in space for trillions of us and raw materials for rocket fuel for a long, long time. As a bonus the water is believed to be very near the surface. Getting it off the surface will be a cakewalk in Ceres' 3% G surface gravity, even a modest hobbyist rocket could put hundreds of kg in orbit around Ceres. The only downside to Ceres is it's far away, well beyond Mars. It will take a mature space economy to even get to Ceres and more to economically extract the water. But once we're there we can bootstrap a huge Ceres colony.
@joescott
@joescott 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe I should have made a top 10. :)
@bassmanjr100
@bassmanjr100 6 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree Callisto is a better choice than Europa.
@lilaclizard4504
@lilaclizard4504 6 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of or dreamed of Mercury as an option before, intriguing! This sort of stuff is why I read video comments :))) Isn't there still radiation issues though? & what's gravity& pressure like there?
@BlunderCity
@BlunderCity 6 жыл бұрын
_"close Dwarf planet"_ Close? Really? You go first, give me a call when you get there.
@Juntaski
@Juntaski 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, first I want to say that I enjoyed your videos a lot and just love the casual style at which you explain things. I am curious about one thing. What is the purpose of the piano/instrumental music playing in the background of the video from time to time? I didn't even know where that came from until half a dozen videos later... haha
@abisheksoundararajan8130
@abisheksoundararajan8130 5 жыл бұрын
I just love this guy!! You follow that kinda style which makes me want to watch more of your videos, so damn entertaining all the while learning so much. BTW, one more point. If we go to Venus, we can harness the heat! one less thing to worry likewise, in other places mentioned, we need a hell lotta resources for heat and energy.
@ZIGMER
@ZIGMER 6 жыл бұрын
Venus, a Domed Cloud City.
@bradleymalcolm7025
@bradleymalcolm7025 4 жыл бұрын
Thank god someone else knows if you convert co2 to o2 and wear acid protection youre pretty much fine
@tiskolin
@tiskolin 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, a fellow Venus fan!
@TheZeedler
@TheZeedler 3 жыл бұрын
Yay! Love, love Isaac Arthur! Excited to learn more about your channel, Joe!
@junkyardzombie13
@junkyardzombie13 5 жыл бұрын
I actually stumbled across your channel a while ago from watching Issac's channel. Then you became the first person I ever supported via patreon.
@bobinthewest8559
@bobinthewest8559 3 жыл бұрын
"Venus for the win... what?... oh."
@daniellim8964
@daniellim8964 25 күн бұрын
Major delusion, planet jail
@Imtotallydiggingthis
@Imtotallydiggingthis 6 жыл бұрын
Why the checkmark for gravity on Mars? It's far too little for humans to live there permanently. We'd need something artificial to stay healthy.
@antifusion
@antifusion 5 жыл бұрын
Actually we have no data to conclude the long term affects of living in Mars gravity only in micro gravity and the extremely brief time in lunar gravity. Sure we can speculate but science is about 100% certainty because of accumulated data in said condition. There is nothing wrong with theories of course but wording is important.
@earthalienzapa3237
@earthalienzapa3237 4 жыл бұрын
see back side earth moon lots going on.
@terrelshumway427
@terrelshumway427 4 жыл бұрын
Isaac Arthur talks about increasing the native gravity with spin gravity. The physics are pretty simple. As @antifusion mentions, we have no data on long-term effects of low gravity, only medium-term effects of micro-gravity. Scott Kelly's experience is pretty scary, however.
@JohnPowell6
@JohnPowell6 4 жыл бұрын
@@terrelshumway427 We have no idea how much gravity is necessary for fetal development. We are pretty sure zero/micro-g won't work www.wired.com/2009/08/spacebabies/
@s.i.rjewel828
@s.i.rjewel828 2 жыл бұрын
Wish you do more videos like this one, also titan as a refueling station seems super legit
@TheJasonmassia
@TheJasonmassia 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, and sense of humor.. Love the 'Subliminal Note'! I would have to agree with your Venus option.. It kinda reminds me of the Tibanna gas mining colony managed by Lando Calrissian.
@CarFreeSegnitz
@CarFreeSegnitz 7 жыл бұрын
Big thumbs up for the coming collaboration with Isaac Arthur. Europa - you got the gravity and magnetosphere confused. Gravity keeps things in orbit. The magnetosphere keeps the radiation high... unbearably high. We can get away with the radiation on Europa, it's far enough away from the worst of Jupiter's radiation belts... unlike Io where you'd get a lethal dose in minutes on its surface. Venus - sure you will find an atmospheric pressure and temperature very similar to Earth, but you'd better be super confident about your balloon technology. One malfunction of the balloon tech and the colony sinks down into the crushing hell of the deeper atmosphere. Don't forget to test the balloon tech under sulphuric acid rain conditions! One option that was notably missing is free-floating habitats. Spinning habitats in low-Earth-orbit (LEO) would have benefits of extremely low communication latancy with home (close enough to instant to call it instant). An equitorial orbit would benefit from Earth's magnetosphere requiring less shielding than most other locations. The commute to LEO could be as short as a few hours and the return home is really easy. LEO habitats could have commercial applications like tourism, communication, and Earth imaging. I will grant free-floating habitats don't fit the planet/moon theme. Perhaps the benefits of free-floating habitats could get its own segment.
@astrofrk
@astrofrk 6 жыл бұрын
In a way, we have that with the space station and as far back as Skylab. Europa has radiation from Jupiter but water blocks radiation, just as it does with our nuclear plants. Besides breathable air, water is the most important thing to have. From water, one can create hydrogen which can be used to fuel generators and engines. Titan would be a far greater challenge than Europa. Mars is a better choice than Venus IMO. Of course, we would have to start with colonizing Luna to the extent of the show "Space 1999" before going elsewhere. Hopefully, we wouldn't turn the moon into an interplanetary traveler as the series did.
@ruan3352
@ruan3352 6 жыл бұрын
Habitats in LEO seem very nice but it's not as satisfying as walking and living on an extraterrestrial body of land.
@fireofenergy
@fireofenergy 6 жыл бұрын
AP3X M0NK3Y Habitats would be far more enjoyable... You forget to factor in the human and future options... Kinda like how we would do it on Earth. Do we like walking on deserts that rival hell (future global warming pending)? We'll be more satisfied when we Terra form it (deserts on Earth) back to habitable conditions. There is no practical way to do so with planets that all have at least a hundred fold more Terra forming _challenges_ . The Dyson swarm is the best way to house literally thousands of trillions of people, and their bugs, birds, forests and pets, too. And yes, some of those planets, like Mercury and the outer moons, might get mined into _nothing_ in the awesome process of converting raw materials into billions of large city like spinning habitats, atmospheres and life !
@ruan3352
@ruan3352 6 жыл бұрын
fireofenergy sounds fun but how realistic is this in the near future like mars?
@fireofenergy
@fireofenergy 6 жыл бұрын
AP3X M0NK3Y I would think it would be easier to build the livable space that Mars could provide, than to completely terraform Mars itself, in a shorter amount of time, and closer to home, in thousands of complete little "pieces". But ya, colonize Mars too, if we can afford to take on that single astronomical challenge of creating a planetary atmosphere and the planetary scale radiation protection. That'll probably happen much later when we have vastly more resources and sources of energy.
@ChristopherFarnan
@ChristopherFarnan 7 жыл бұрын
planet Vulcan for the win
@MrDalek2150
@MrDalek2150 5 жыл бұрын
Prune Juice Power Doctor Who (Reference to the 2nd Doctors very first episode)
@brianbrewster6532
@brianbrewster6532 5 жыл бұрын
Hail Isaac! Man - he is one cool cat. I've been watching his videos for years now. He really researches his material thoroughly and does a magnificent job at presenting this to the public.
@sleepisyd6863
@sleepisyd6863 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been learning more from joe than my online zoom classes
@lucth16
@lucth16 7 жыл бұрын
Best day of the week, Arthursday! Looking forwards to the interview.
@zigzagduck952
@zigzagduck952 7 жыл бұрын
see you there.. with a snack and a bevewige,
@joescott
@joescott 7 жыл бұрын
It was a fun conversation. Hopefully it'll be as fun to listen to, I don't really have any interviewing skills to speak of.
@michaelt.5672
@michaelt.5672 4 жыл бұрын
Biggest benefit of Venus (in my opinion): You could spend years there, and still return to earth without significant problems (other than a 10% weight gain). If your body acclimates to Mars over 2-3 years, it will be a MASSIVE effort to get you back to a shape in which you can function on earth again. So if you're going there long-term, there's effectively no going back. So if you want to colonise a place with specialists (and build up a self-sustaining system there), Venus is the better option. It would be comparable to people working on an oil rig.
@TheLAGopher
@TheLAGopher 3 жыл бұрын
It's much easier to travel between Venus and Earth than between Earth and Mars. Venus is a much better choice for large scale Human habitation because a child born in a Venus colony would be able to visit Earth with little to no muscular/skeletal issues. Someone born on Mars would never be able to run on a grass field of Earth.
@erichalvor516
@erichalvor516 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this one. 👍
@0987654321mnbvcxzmor
@0987654321mnbvcxzmor 3 жыл бұрын
Love this thinking anything is possible.
@lawrencehartmann6771
@lawrencehartmann6771 3 жыл бұрын
Has Joe done a video on space elevator. I'd love to hear his ideas on this
@everybodyslawyersusanbetzj5721
@everybodyslawyersusanbetzj5721 4 жыл бұрын
Ceres has the temperature range of Antarctica and a lot of water
@raminagrobis6112
@raminagrobis6112 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but.... Is water really that abundant? The presence of a liquid ocean under the surface has been recently. questioned. Of course, if it is confirmed, Ceres might be a low gravity alternative. Question: the question of its atmosphere has not been answered yet. There is good evidence that water vapor is prwsent, but the pressure and the rest of its composition (assuming it is more complex) are still ubknown. Thus, Joe was right in omitting it (data insufficient). I think we should really focus on thre possibilities for terraforming for each option. Some lend themselves better than others for modification. Personally, I think Mars should be really examined closely, despite its really thin atmosphere. As mentioned, CO2 could be vaporized (sublimated) to obtain a greenhouse effect, and this is a major plus for the Martian option. Plus, thanks to Matt Damon, we now know how to grow potatoes on it. Oops sorry! Wrong universe !! My bad. I really love Titan for its endless possibilities for terraforming and for its organic synthesis resources. For organic chemists, Titan is very very cold Paradise... If only we could further increase the greenhouse effect. ... Unfortunatelt, Titan's atmosphere has the opposite problem : it is way too thick ! As a result, sunlight is in fact considerably blocked at its input, no matter how effective atmospheric methane is in keeping thermal energy within the atmosphere. But even if its atmosphere was less opaque, tgere are linits to the highest temperatures one can reach this far away from the sun. So, one cannot hope to increase the tenperature enough so as to go out just wearing a jacket :) Much terraforming would need to be done to make the atmosphete breathable, especially since there is enough cyanide in its atmosphere to kill anybody within minutes! But that's no big deal. The major ingredient missing, (and thank God it's missing!) is .....oxygen. The main atmospheric gases on Titan are nitrogen (just like our Earth, so that's a big plus in terms of having a main component that is inert.), ethane and methane. The lack of oxygen makes it safe as long as we wear a suit when going outside . Otherwise, there is enough fuel on and inside that moon to make it explode like a Death Star from Star Wars... Oceans of methane would ignite and cause the biggest exploding wildfire in the whole solar system. And if controlled, this would solve the problem of surface temperature ...for a while. Indeed, due again to the shielding effect of its thick atmosphere, the heat generated by burning methane lakes would take a long time to escape to outer space. Nah... That wouldn't last long enough to constitute a viable solution. On the other hand, there is good evidence for titanothermal sources of geysers and cryovolcanoes, and this is worth exploring. As with Europa, too, the supporting evidence for extraterrestrial life on Titan keeps consolidating. I do hope projects for further exploration of Titan using ribotic chemical probes will be approved. Titan is a real treasure trove for studying the origins of life, as its atmosphere is so close to Earth's before life began on our planet...
@pogdog86
@pogdog86 3 жыл бұрын
@@raminagrobis6112 bruh
@richdobbs6595
@richdobbs6595 3 жыл бұрын
Also, lots of carbon. Might need to import metals from other asteroids. Build your city as a large centrifuge to get gravity?
@InspektorDreyfus
@InspektorDreyfus 3 жыл бұрын
Love it that you use the metric system.
@julese7790
@julese7790 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, TY for the Venus "F" moment.... relevant now that another paper just popped talking about Earth-Venus-Mars Grav assist !
@Skrajne_centrum
@Skrajne_centrum 4 жыл бұрын
My plan is: Take Venus atmosfer Give it to Mars Both planets are redy to colonize.
@vijeshkumar692
@vijeshkumar692 4 жыл бұрын
*Jeenius*
@alang9891
@alang9891 4 жыл бұрын
Inttellegelinent
@zackadir2756
@zackadir2756 4 жыл бұрын
G d d cv (yxn😎😎😘😎
@CarlosAM1
@CarlosAM1 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck with that
@vincentsvirtues4172
@vincentsvirtues4172 4 жыл бұрын
venus does not have the atmosphere we want to breathe
@JimGiant
@JimGiant 5 жыл бұрын
The thin atmosphere on Mars could be a good thing. It's thick enough to slow space crafts down with parachutes but thin enough to make travel on the surface more energy efficient. There would also be far less wind chill so it wouldn't feel anywhere near as cold as it actually is. You would need to live in pressurised habitats but apart from that it would be pretty convenient. Titan could be a great place for building supercomputers, high pressure and extremely low temperature would be great for cooling circuits.
@steve42lawson
@steve42lawson 4 жыл бұрын
No longer a need for dangerous drafting behind a freight truck!
@leoribeirodossantos1624
@leoribeirodossantos1624 Жыл бұрын
I love videos like this, thank u for the entertainment
@yeenmachine206
@yeenmachine206 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning Isaac Arthur!
@calebwaddell6948
@calebwaddell6948 4 жыл бұрын
As they said in 2010 regarding Europa, "Attempt no landing there." I agree. Well I mean we should land there, but we need to make sure there's no life before we start living in the oceans and contaminate the whole world. I'd say Ganamede and or Calisto are a safer bet. And those two moons have good mining prospects on top of the subterranean ocean. (literally) Also, I think the main reason we dont see more talk abt cloud cities on Venus isnt because it's harder or more dangerous than Mars, but instead people just find the idea wak. Way out there. No one wants to fund a cloud city (even though it would be awesome).
@dannechita8577
@dannechita8577 6 жыл бұрын
I say to go on Sun. Then i won't be have to pay bill for electricity and heating.
@101perspective
@101perspective 6 жыл бұрын
Also, make sure you don't stare at... well, anything.
@marcpeterson1092
@marcpeterson1092 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the AC bills are outrageous.
@cooldude4346
@cooldude4346 5 жыл бұрын
Marc Peterson Yep, they’ll make your blood boil.
@jaybee0507
@jaybee0507 5 жыл бұрын
Either i'm having a good day or these jokes are better than the usual youtube comments.
@louisjanhsen9064
@louisjanhsen9064 5 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@peterschein204
@peterschein204 4 жыл бұрын
I love your channel Joe. Thank you for the lot of interesting videos! If I may add one personal impression. I find the occasional music a bit too loud...
@scottydymond9187
@scottydymond9187 3 жыл бұрын
Tell love all your stuff long time watching thank you so much for bringing Isaac into it cuz he's he's the man to man you guys together would be epic
@kwinvdv
@kwinvdv 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think that the gravity of Jupiter plays a big role in its radiation (belts). Its strong magnetic field does. It is similar to the radiation belts around the Earth, only much more intense and much larger.
@joescott
@joescott 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, you're the first of many that noticed that mistake - which I didn't notice until it was already on KZbin. It was a misstatement. Meant to say magnetic fields.
@raijinmeister
@raijinmeister 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, colonizing Venus would make literally everybody tripping on acid.
@nubiorevoredo
@nubiorevoredo 6 жыл бұрын
raijinmeister 😂😂😂
@Obeijin
@Obeijin 5 жыл бұрын
Venus is 900' ....
@DaybreakPT
@DaybreakPT 5 жыл бұрын
Of the eye melting variety...
@venlil
@venlil 5 жыл бұрын
It would be easier than Mars due to bouency
@adnanjusic4890
@adnanjusic4890 5 жыл бұрын
Well acids can be removed from atmosphere of venus.. not easy to do ofc.. but is posible.
@saulosobral3097
@saulosobral3097 4 жыл бұрын
Plus seeing solid metal fall down as snow would be awesome.
@tonyd3266
@tonyd3266 5 жыл бұрын
Very objective. Much appreciated information to digest concerning planetary alternative living locations. Thanks for keeping a sobering tone about a topic that has big business driving and pushing-our tax money for without ever diving to address....
@christynpienaar
@christynpienaar 7 жыл бұрын
I go with the show The Expanse on this one.. some rock solid ideas there ..
@joescott
@joescott 7 жыл бұрын
Clearly I need to be watching this. Heard a lot about it.
@ryananthony8543
@ryananthony8543 7 жыл бұрын
I'm currently reading the second book. Read the first one (570 pages) in 6 days. Strongly recommend.
@annoyed707
@annoyed707 6 жыл бұрын
Pun intended?
@wesleyking9994
@wesleyking9994 5 жыл бұрын
Who are the 134 Haters! Good Videos. Informative and entertaining enough to be enjoyable while listening.
@redmeat4vegans62
@redmeat4vegans62 5 жыл бұрын
Haters gotta hate. Some people are just born that way. OR, are those the aliens trying to stop us from branching out????????
@drjojo5551
@drjojo5551 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the aliens are probably concerned with humans spreading their pollution, wars, the contamination of a pristine environment!! All you space wackos should be living in a space mock-up colony here on the planet! Get a straight-up experience for five years!!! But NO sex during the trial!!
@drjojo5551
@drjojo5551 4 жыл бұрын
Ron Helms Ronny.....I don't hate you.....I'm merely asking a few questions! You space wackos find it inconvenient?? A man of average intelligence would ask the same! BUT why don't you just extend the same energy in cleaning up OUR CURRENT HOME?????
@daniellim8964
@daniellim8964 25 күн бұрын
Major delusion, planet jail
@jakobsmith4046
@jakobsmith4046 3 жыл бұрын
Underwater habitats would definitely be interesting, I hadnt really thought about it before
@pennywiseballoon4646
@pennywiseballoon4646 Жыл бұрын
I can imagine some asshole making a hole and flooding the whole place up
@michaeledes1111
@michaeledes1111 5 жыл бұрын
Lol when you mocked yourself "like eethhh" i died. so funny, i love your channel haha.
@Eliphas_Leary
@Eliphas_Leary 6 жыл бұрын
All these worlds are yours, except Europa. Attempt no landing there. Use them together. Use them in peace.
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, just watched that movie (2010) again recently. One of few "sequels" in sci fi that was a success!!
@spankystar9316
@spankystar9316 5 жыл бұрын
... and stay out of the Twilight Zone, too... interlopers will be dealt with enigmatically.
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 5 жыл бұрын
@Anton Boludo 2001 a Space Odyssey Many people don't get it and the sequel 2010 tries to explain a lot, like why Hal went crazy, and who are the monolith aliens, and why are they here in our solar system, etc. Highly recommended, especially if you thought 2001 was "inexplicable" and therefore "sucked"!! I recommend seeing both back to back, if you have the time; both are long movies. But you'll be very glad you did!
@Declan-pg8cg
@Declan-pg8cg 5 жыл бұрын
@@ronschlorff7089 Please, don't use the words "2001a space odyssey" & "sucked" in the same sentence? My heart is nearly fibrillating here hearing such an association with the best film ever made.
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 5 жыл бұрын
@@Declan-pg8cg right I agree, recall, that's why I said "if you thought" (and many "knuckle draggers", such as in the first part, have said so, especially here on You Tube which is replete with them). I have it on DVD, and it is almost worn out from "over-use"! :D
@seraphina985
@seraphina985 7 жыл бұрын
The sulphuric acid is an inconvenience but hardly a showstopper making industrial scale hardware with corrosion resistant properties is a pretty routine engineering problem here on Earth. When you need to handle billions of tons of materials like Sulphuric Acid, Nitric Acid, Hydrochloric Acid, Chlorine etc every year in chemical plants and transporting them around the world on every form of transport imaginable you learn a thing or two about how to protect your equipment from exposure to such.
@joescott
@joescott 7 жыл бұрын
Good point.
@lucidmoses
@lucidmoses 7 жыл бұрын
+Seraphina S, Do you happen to have an example? I know of no system like that, that doesn't require periodic maintenance. Colonization would be considered sorta permanent and I'd be interested in reading about something that could stand up to that. Heck, We can't even keep water out of a house for 50 years never mind indefinitely.
@seraphina985
@seraphina985 7 жыл бұрын
+Lucid Moses I'm not saying that maintenance robots to refresh the coating wouldn't be required merely that the technology to devise the corrosion protection exists. Hell it will probably eventually need a small leak to be patched here and there though of course with the internal and external pressure being equal the mixing would be slow enough to allow the section to be evacuated if needed pending repairs. Course that assumes you don't do something smart like using a double hull design or something such that if either hull failed it could be repaired without allowing direct contact between the internal and external atmosphere honestly though I struggle to see many good reasons not to have the redundancy here if the structure is intended to last long duration.
@lucidmoses
@lucidmoses 7 жыл бұрын
Ok, I was thinking more in realistic terms. It's not like there is something overly wrong with what your proposing, it's just at level of technology that would take more then the GDP of North America just to get a double hauled self repairing system there. Never mind supplies and something to put in this craft. But of course, this is not impossible. Maybe worth a look once we get a much, Much, MUCH cheaper cheaper way to get mas orbit. But as it sits, it's almost breaking the bank to get something the size of a VW Beetle to mars. Wonder what it would cost to send a double hauled self repairing titanic to Venus? That is, if a permanent colony could be sustained on something as small as the titanic.
@TheLAGopher
@TheLAGopher 7 жыл бұрын
From what I hear,the colony would be constructed out of materials processed out of the very atmosphere of Venus.The Carbon Dioxide could be made into ceramics and the acid could be chemically broken down into water,oxygen or Hydrogen. Nitrogen would need to be imported.From Earth at first (some say a huge import would be manure)But a good long term source would be shipping it in from a Titan Colony. An industrial base of smaller manned airship stations control automated factories would build the larger structures long before huge numbers of colonists arrived.
@twelvewingproductions7508
@twelvewingproductions7508 5 жыл бұрын
Ok.. I was actually laughing as I was hitting the backspace and deleting my comment about how you could possibly not know Venus's atmosphere was corrosive. Great video. All fun stuff to think about. I think we are going to learn a great deal from the moon.
@crib4046
@crib4046 3 жыл бұрын
Floating in Venus' atmosphere is something I've never heard of before. Gonna go look more into that now. Thanks!
@theotherguy6951
@theotherguy6951 4 жыл бұрын
Given the gravity, it would make more sense to terraform Venus rather than Mars since gravity is the one thing that you can't change on an entire planet.
@aarontoussaint8364
@aarontoussaint8364 2 жыл бұрын
Teraforming would take millennia, cloud cities would take decades and once cloud cities are established you wouldn't be able to teraform without committing genocide.
@wakankinyan
@wakankinyan 2 жыл бұрын
Came to say this. Mars is a deathtrap, no matter how fast Daddy Musk's cult want him to swing their asses in circles.
@lucistired
@lucistired 6 жыл бұрын
"What's that? It rains acid? @#$%."
@Iann0400
@Iann0400 5 жыл бұрын
Oh Joe god I laugh at your clips... another great viewing and just so look forward to your teaching me in a fun way. I share with heaps of people that has brought science back to being fun and interesting
@InnovativeVideos956
@InnovativeVideos956 5 жыл бұрын
wow woe , what a wondewful guy you awe. - issac ... actually love his videos love your videos too
@gpicken
@gpicken 5 жыл бұрын
Well were terraforming the earth quite successfully.
@earthalienzapa3237
@earthalienzapa3237 4 жыл бұрын
now cracking
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 3 жыл бұрын
Not so much terraforming.... more like "whatever you call the opposite of terraforming".
@Mike_79
@Mike_79 5 жыл бұрын
Then "we have to stop fighting among ourselves" first ...
@drjojo5551
@drjojo5551 4 жыл бұрын
THAT dude will NEVER happen! Colonization?? Who would go? You'd want to leave ALL the blacks behind!!
@junoguten
@junoguten 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on who you're fighting, I guess. If you're in an all out war against the Germans or Soviets, maybe. If you're in a war against people who loot walmart every 5 months, it's probably still possible to colonize Mars, if you don't spend too many NASA budgets trying to appease them.
@sandro5535
@sandro5535 4 жыл бұрын
It was the cold war that got us to moon. No enemy appears to divide us as a specie.
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A 3 жыл бұрын
What will you do if the colonists starts to rebel and try to drop an O'Neill on Earth?
@elcidgaming
@elcidgaming 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! did i just hear IA here!! I love you man!!
@JohnnyOttosson85
@JohnnyOttosson85 3 жыл бұрын
You sir are awesome. Just a reminder.
@Cujo5
@Cujo5 4 жыл бұрын
Joe: "Communication is instantaneous, only a few seconds delay!" Gamers: /facepalm
@roccov3614
@roccov3614 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for highlighting Venus. 2 extra benefits are: an atmosphere above your head that would help in blocking cosmic rays, and lots of solar power. And even though you marked Mars's gravity as green, the truth is we really don't know what amount of gravity we need to live long term. It may be that 1/3 Earth gravity might not be enough. In that case Venus may be the only planet we can 'colonize'. Although I think most likely we will colonize space more than any planet with Oneal cylinders and such nice and close around the Earth.
@norrislaw1983
@norrislaw1983 3 жыл бұрын
The asteroid belt is also a great option. Lots of good resources and a good number of large asteroids that offer shelter for colonies can even connect several of the largest ones for larger colonies.
@CFG-eb3my
@CFG-eb3my 3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@elizabethshaw734
@elizabethshaw734 4 жыл бұрын
I really thought that by now we would have colonised to the Moon. Actually our moon.
@drjojo5551
@drjojo5551 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah girl!!! Good on you!! You sound like a prime candidate for moving underground or the belly of a space ship!! WE .....WHO???? Moon colonists??
@dumitrulangham1721
@dumitrulangham1721 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we’re too busy playing school kids bullying game
@johnbergamini3567
@johnbergamini3567 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. (..not playing bullying games but building lunar manufacturing infrastructure...)
@sertaki
@sertaki 7 жыл бұрын
When you said "controversial choice" I was sure it's Venus for these very reasons! :D
@joescott
@joescott 7 жыл бұрын
I probably gave it away.
@ivannoreland5656
@ivannoreland5656 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree on you pick for number 1. I feel like venus is often overlooked when talking about colonization of the Solar system in favour of Mars.
@colemiller2149
@colemiller2149 2 жыл бұрын
If you're alright with half an atmosphere (similar to Mt Everest base camps) you can go up to 55km in the venusian atmosphere where its a lukewarm 80F. Get yourself some Teflon lined balloons to resist the acid clouds and you can hang out with just a face mask (w/ oxygen supply) on for a few minutes even before your skin starts to feel raw from the acid in the air.
@theharpspedeffect9209
@theharpspedeffect9209 5 жыл бұрын
Joe. This may be something to review now that NASA is planning a mission back to the moon with goals to set up shop.
@JohnnyZenith
@JohnnyZenith 6 жыл бұрын
It frustrates me that Venus is the way it is. Imagine if it didn't have a run away greenhouse effect. It's the right distance from the Sun, the right size, it would look like Earth and would be amazingly easy to get to.
@ireneuszpyc6684
@ireneuszpyc6684 6 жыл бұрын
you can just as well become frustrated by almost anything: that China has 1.3 billion people, and so you have to spend much money on your military, to make sure they won't invade you tomorrow
@kelv1969
@kelv1969 5 жыл бұрын
Such a similar planet and location from the sun to ours. a proper sister planet. pity it didn't evolve the way Earth did. It would have made a fantastic holiday destination. I wonder if we could terraform it one day? Couldn't we find a way to suck a major portion of the atmosphere out into space?
@russell2449
@russell2449 5 жыл бұрын
@@kelv1969 perhaps we could develop self-replicating nanobots which would be sprayed into the upper atmosphere of Venus. These would use the carbon from the Co2 to build more such nanobots while leaving beneficial oxygen as the byproduct. And if you believe Eric Drexler's "grey goo" theory, this process might even move at an exponential rate which could convert the entire atmosphere within a matter of days. Such an invention may not be as far-fetched as you may think, and with the rapidity of technological advancement, and with the advent of super-intelligent AI on the horizon, I'm betting self-replicating nanobots will be possible within the next couple of decades.
@paulbestwick2426
@paulbestwick2426 5 жыл бұрын
Would not a biological solution be better. There are bacteria that consume CO2, though this way may take a bit longer and would meet to be acid resistant.
@Yusuke_Denton
@Yusuke_Denton 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine how frustrated astronomers and all science-fiction authors were when they first discovered that annoying fact. Until then everyone thought Venus would be a lush jungle planet, ripe for the taking. On the plus side, at least we have Mars in a semi-terraformable state. There could be civilizations somewhere out in a far distant solar system that have no nearby habitable planets and no incentive to explore space.
@xeonelite6051
@xeonelite6051 4 жыл бұрын
Subbed Greetings from Suriname (South America)
@WRMonger1
@WRMonger1 5 жыл бұрын
Glad that you covered that pesky super nova thing for your Venus pick
@Sammy-wc9kz
@Sammy-wc9kz 5 жыл бұрын
Subliminal Note: If you consider 150-200 degrees F "Managable" Wow, Joe. Just Wow.
@steve42lawson
@steve42lawson 4 жыл бұрын
Put a tea bag in a glass of water and set it outside for 15 minutes for a nice hot glass of tea! Quite manageable!
@jozzerful2
@jozzerful2 4 жыл бұрын
You would be living a life like a vampire.
@Sammy-wc9kz
@Sammy-wc9kz 4 жыл бұрын
@@jozzerful2 By we turn cannibalistic or we hide from the sun lol
@junoguten
@junoguten 4 жыл бұрын
70C is perfect. It's one degree before your skin starts to boil.
@macbainexplains5795
@macbainexplains5795 3 жыл бұрын
Actually it’s been proven at 55 km up in Venus atmosphere it is only about 27 degrees Celsius. Perfect earth like temperatures
@Phoenixspin
@Phoenixspin 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to my cruise ship lifestyle on Venus. Damn.
@samesource
@samesource 3 жыл бұрын
Radiation really needs to be a big part of the conversation. That makes Callisto worthy of consideration.
@dizzyboxnine2656
@dizzyboxnine2656 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Venus idea! Way better than dealing with the gravitational effects we'd have to deal with on Mars...
@dralghuroba
@dralghuroba 6 жыл бұрын
Would really appreciate if you start adding metric values next to the imperial ones Lots of love and support from your fans in Kuwait
@billdale1
@billdale1 6 жыл бұрын
Mubarak Alghuroba: It is truly unfortunate that the country most advanced regarding space and technology--- The U.S.--- is still using the most backward systems of measurement. As an American who grew up with pounds, feet, gallons, etc., I am quite aware just how much easier life would have been to have grown up with the metric system instead. Uggggh!
@AlaskanPotHead
@AlaskanPotHead 6 жыл бұрын
So, basically you want us to abandon the system that's working? If we're leading the world, then let's not fix what obviously isn't broken. Having said that, I do agree that the metric system is better and more consistent. But we're leading the world, so quit complaining. Besides, the US empire is in it's last days, and will fall soon, so it's a moot point.
@jeromesnail
@jeromesnail 6 жыл бұрын
AlaskanPotHead yeah you lead the world because of retarded units. This was one of the most stupid comment I ever read on a channel discussing science. Looks like you lead the world in stupid too.
@addisonlane1041
@addisonlane1041 6 жыл бұрын
that is why American scientists use imperial measuring systems, oh wait no they do not
@AlaskanPotHead
@AlaskanPotHead 6 жыл бұрын
jeromesnail Can't argue that. That's why the empire is crumbling. But if that's the stupidest comment you've read, you must be new to the internet. It gets worse, you'll see.
@lizzychrome7630
@lizzychrome7630 4 жыл бұрын
If there was a lottery to determine which colony you'd love on and I got the friggin Earth's moon, I'd cry.
@gomez3357
@gomez3357 3 жыл бұрын
Love on?
@lizzychrome7630
@lizzychrome7630 3 жыл бұрын
@@gomez3357 I didn't mean tears of happiness. I'd be P.O.ed.
@veitdalee4810
@veitdalee4810 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! The host looks a bit like Michael Brooks from TMBS
@kineticdyslexic3093
@kineticdyslexic3093 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently its still hot in the clouds at the elevation where you utilize earth air as a ballast. But if you can get another 10 km or was it miles up higher, the ambient temperature is 60-80 degrees. You could use a little helium to get a little higher. But I like the idea of using wind power turbines to heat the Venetian air and attach a strong rigid hot air balloon, one strong enough to withstand the harsh winds.
@AlexGlod
@AlexGlod 7 жыл бұрын
Great job once again! Indeed too bad there is no important project yet regarding a Moon base. That would really be a giant leap forward
@joescott
@joescott 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@SeanAedan.007
@SeanAedan.007 6 жыл бұрын
Yes there is: Plans both by ESA & China with other nations contributing.
@anthonyrymer4391
@anthonyrymer4391 6 жыл бұрын
shane mattison don't you mean Russia and China?
@Seeker_Blade
@Seeker_Blade 5 жыл бұрын
I only want to live on titan because that’s where thanos is from! 😂
@Poshgraph
@Poshgraph 4 жыл бұрын
Estupido
@CarlosAM1
@CarlosAM1 4 жыл бұрын
Pendejo
@Kamenriderneo
@Kamenriderneo 3 жыл бұрын
The man who walked on the Moon club is only the most exclusive because some of them died. Technically, that would make the actors who played James Bond a more exclusive club. I'm only mentioning this because Pierce Bros
@casienwhey
@casienwhey 2 жыл бұрын
You're right about the moon making sense for a launch pad for further exploration and as a place to get experience living off the Earth. It's close enough so that if something really went wrong, it's at least possible to send help. The best long term other world for settlement would be Titan. While the temperature would be too cold for life outdoors, shelters could be constructed to make it habitable. The air pressure is good, gravity is better than the moon and all the hydrocarbons would be useful for energy. Also when the sun expands one day, it will be even more habitable.
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