The Top 5 Total War Games in 2024

[@LegendofTotalWar]

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[@ZenobiaofPalmyra]

Not going to lie, the way in which you did this sponsor segment was.... utterly bewildering. I honestly thought you were satirizing the shilling for this kind of thing for a hard moment. 😅 Like not even accusing you of anything! It just seems like your hype for it was very superficial, compared to say your.... manscaping ads. I doubt you will let this comment show on your sponsor reference post. Just want you to see this to let you know it could do with a bit of work.

[@anonymouseovermouse1960]

​@@ZenobiaofPalmyra I mean, imo raytracing sucks and DLSS is a crutch, so i don't blame Legend for lacking enthusiasm lol

[@yuzumeow]

@@ZenobiaofPalmyra😅stop typing imo. its his livelihood lol 😅 hes not you earning $25 per hour poverty worker

[@justbehappytoday5892]

@@LegendofTotalWar dude you need to do more fall of the samurai content. I'm just saying. Love you, man

[@adriankoch964]

I honestly loved the sting at TW Atilla being designed for future hardware and that being the reason why it runs like crap.

[@nocary3]

This sounds like a top tier AI legendofTotalWar

[@TheGreatBookofGrudges]

His top Total War games until the ULTIMATE Total War game releases.... TW Hyenas!! He'll never play anything else!

[@shogunarki1139]

Oh gosh that is a good joke

[@DaBadMoonIsRisin]

Oh hello gbog, you have a banger channel.

[@bluemilkalienmonster522]

Nah man, it’s Total War: My Little Pony or bust!

[@fazalamin6379]

😂🥲😂

[@marfin4325]

@@bluemilkalienmonster522 Unironically, I would play Total War: MLP

[@khankhomrad8855]

Legend reading a script doesn't sound natural at all.

[@Mars_junior]

It sounds fine, you're just not used to it.

[@gelwane]

Honestly it's how he used to sound unscripted as well, before he got speaking experience through streaming

[@bjorn-falkoandreas9472]

Yeah, it's weird. What's next? Multiple takes and editing? It's as if somebody is holding a gun to his head and now I am seriously worried.

[@f3wbs]

Idk if you watched his super old Medieval 2 videos some of them sound scripted. This sound exactly like that.

[@simondiebolt5354]

Nothing sounds natural when you listen in 1.5 or more :)

[@Resurrescion]

Legend sounds so different when reading off a script

[@gekko434]

I liked it. Dunno why everyone is being so harsh

[@primary2630]

He sounds the exact same he just knows what he's saying.

[@hjluke4807]

I’m so happy in spite of all its fatal flaws, three kingdoms made this list. It’s a beautifully ambitious game- and was killed off too early.

[@afau1non]

it's basicaly the best modern historical title

[@wilsun3638]

It's sooo damn good, not my most played or my fave but I think it had insane potential that was wasted by a dev team who seemed to have no idea what to do with it. I would love a fully developed max potential 3k2.

[@reivelt3715]

Yes. It has the most potential. I love playing it back then

[@ivanlagrossemoule]

Funnily enough everything listed by Legend is some of the stuff I hate the most about it. Sure, figuring out generals that work together is fine when you have 2 armies. When you have 9 all over the place it's just a pain in the ass. But it did have a lot of potential that was never realized. Ironically potential that was never realized will always be my biggest issue with Total War games.

[@cornuthaum]

the diplomacy in 3k was genuinely revolutionary and I dearly wish they could have merged the forks between 3k and TWW3 to get that diplomacy system backported

[@xNoelxLeonx]

In contrary to a lot of the comments, I like that you tried something different by writing a script. It did feel a bit unnatural but I feel that's expected with you trying something new and I could hear you feeling more comfortable with it in moments throughout the video. I'm sure it would feel more comfortable after a couple more like this and I wouldn't expect a script for videos such as Disaster Battle videos anyway Congrats on the sponsor and much respect for trying out some new things for yourself and the channel!!

[@Qualityrubbish]

A little bit of advice for more planned videos, I’d recommend you try just using cliff notes of what you want to talk about for each section. This one being fully scripted left it feeling quite wooden and we lost a lot of your natural charm that normally comes through. Congrats on getting a sponsor tho, and it was a great video with some nice editing that we don’t normally see!

[@SereglothIV]

This is some good constructive critisism! I get that he wanted to plan what to say and it probably also had something to do with the sponsor, but he sounded really weird an unnatural. Having cliff notes instead of the full script could work so much better.

[@MedjayofFaiyum]

Great to see Legend doing the scripted stuff, but to be honest if he started with:! Legend here and I’m about to tell you what the best five top total war games are! Now fack off 😅 (I can totally imagine him saying this)

[@MedjayofFaiyum]

@@SereglothIValso doing scripted videos are harder to do if you don’t do them regularly, speaking as a small KZbinr I prefer to go off topic more than scripted. Scripted requires an insane amount of dedication (this is my experience and I don’t claim to speak for others) if you do something consistently it becomes second nature

[@MrBlueSleeves]

"Siege rework. Rework. When."

[@ABCDEFGEERT1986]

Hard disagree. He sounds just different, but for a cohorent long-form story you need to adjust your speech pattern anyway. He did fine

[@WeAreLegion1]

Your personal taste in video games are completely wrong. I can’t believe you could be so wrong. My personal taste in games is right. You should educate yourself and take notes.

[@donkey9113]

You tried so hard to be funny, that’s what makes this post actually funny

[@WeAreLegion1]

@@donkey9113 wow. You must be a scholar. A member of Mensa. A titan of intellectualism. You figured this out on your own? I am in awweee of your ability to see the core of human social behavior. It is an honor to have someone of your pedigree to comment on one of my obvious goofball comments. Thank you sir.

[@donkey9113]

@@WeAreLegion1you're welcome

[@Hollow_Theorist]

@@WeAreLegion1 Are you mentally challenged?

[@Drizzzler]

@@WeAreLegion1 soooo... what's your favorite total war game?

[@holdinmcgroin8639]

Troy number 1? Never thought i'd see the day!

[@Ahmadabdal_]

TROY SWEEP

[@Garret007]

love the bait

[@MrBlueSleeves]

It makes sense really, Troy just got it all tbh and you even have trojan horses

[@gonkdroid6301]

why would you lie to me? im really not cool with this. say hi to your general doctor for me

[@kreuzrittergottes9336]

Wait, i thought it was Pharoah

[@smellchamber]

Empire at number 1 is crazy

[@unmeclambda5837]

Not as crazy as Thrones of Britannia as number 2

[@michaelmoran2125]

The Empire Endures!!!

[@321Crispo]

I'm so sad that so many people hate on Empire, I thought it was amazing with the tech tree, agents/gentlemen, line infantry and naval battles. Would really love to see Empire 2

[@jacobscott2473]

@@unmeclambda5837 Thrones of Britannia was a fun playthrough for me, but I 100% used a mod that added stuff like population to towns among many other things.

[@IndianArma]

Empire is perfect

[@Johannes_Piotr]

Justice for Attila! If only it got similar subsequent attention than Rome 2... 😢

[@alextony4111]

Modding community goes crazy tho

[@GradyGame]

Attila is truly best

[@addochandra4745]

All I want in a Total War games are : - Population mechanic from RTW1 and 2-3 slot recruitment from Med2 (The challenge for dev is to make the AI play competently and not exhaust its population) - Chivalry-Dreadful mechanic with battle system from Med2 - Procedural generated battle map Other than those, I don't care whether it's a historical or fantasy setting.

[@termitreter6545]

Personally Id also like the unit management of Med2 in general. Trying to upgrade/modify armies in Total Warhammer is an utterly byzantine and tedious process. In M2 I was just phasing in and out units from armies, modifying for purpose, trying new things and accounting for losses/limited unit replacement.

[@chainz983]

i kinda like the General upgrading from Shogun 2, instead of hoping for a specific trait like Infantry master or whatever from M2

[@Mauadib]

@@termitreter6545 There is a mod by BAGHolder for TWWH 3 called "Warband Upgrade Ultimate" you may want to check out. Pretty much gives every faction the warband upgrade system from Chaos so you can some what modify and upgrade your armies as you go.

[@marclohnhardt6420]

@@chainz983 never rly cared much about specific traits in M2 :D Works without caring to much

[@addochandra4745]

@@termitreter6545 Yeah me too. Also, I like the way how city garrison system implemented. Basically you can decide what militia unit you want within its free upkeep garrison. Unlike the system, for example in TW Warhammer...

[@erensametkaratas6593]

I bet this new sponsor is much more profitable than most of his other sponsors. Great to see!

[@YvanWeiersmuller]

Just dropping a comment for the algorithm and to say I thoroughly enjoyed this (perhaps one-off) format ! Disregarding the reading part lacking a bit of emotion (only needs practice and thus is of no importance really), I cannot state how GREATLY I appreciate the effort that went into the text itself. It is complete, well structured and filled with all the comprehensive details to both fully explain your reasonings and present the games in the most complete manner. I always learn knew things about Total War when watching your videos but this format is, I find, both the richest in information and the most structured , which, in my opinion, makes it very, very pleasing and interesting to watch. The visual editing is a plus as well : these nice, cinematic shots are not only pleasing to the eyes but add content to the speech, with a (nice) touch of humour and/or by illustrating what is being said. Not sure if we'll see another production-heavy vid like that any time soon, but I do applaud the effort that when into this one, cheers !

[@imadork123]

I agree, not enough love for the actual words. Too much focus on the delivery. But hey, he's an entertainer, so it's part of the job too.

[@processing4426]

Some people dont like it, but honestly, I really like that Legend took his time to think about what he wanted to say. It feels more professional from channel of over half a milion subs. Are you planning on doing these top 5 videos again? You have made plenty of those years ago and new games were released in that time and opinions may have shifted. I would love you to redo your top 5 series in 2024/2025 in this scripted less-yapping format.

[@pyrhusofeprius]

I never got into Warhammer until recently. I always felt overwhelmed jumping from historical tw to Warhammer. In July 2024 I made the jump and bought warhammer 3. I ended up buying all the games and DLC. I have all the achievements for it now. I LOVE it.

[@ROZENHART]

LMAO OFF on the Attila reference “was designed for equipment that has been invented yet”! So true. I can run it on ULTRA but my laptop is literally hot enough to cook food on

[@Sturm_VII]

We might just get lucky and the hardware it was designed for will release in the next decade 😁

[@vorynrosethorn903]

Works fine of my computer on max settings, and my computer is cheap and five years old. Rome 2 on the other hand does not work great, and I've had continual problems with Napoleon.

[@ROZENHART]

@@vorynrosethorn903 Attila runs fine its just my laptop get crazy hot 🔥

[@rebelrouzer5318]

Lol that's cuz it's a laptop man. You gotta have a good fan for it

[@ROZENHART]

@rebelrouzer5318 I get what you're saying, but it can run other games and stay cool.

[@justbehappytoday5892]

"my personal taste in videogames is incorrect" 😂😂😂

[@toddblankenship7164]

he just wants interaction on the channel for the $'s

[@justbehappytoday5892]

@@toddblankenship7164 "to be HONEST I appreciate the boy for his HONESTY..." WTF did I write there 🥴 Hope you still get my drift, have a nice day, dear internet user 🙂

[@MrKylljoy]

@@toddblankenship7164 y'all take all jokes and sarcasm as engagement bait

[@fadecrowley6127]

Fall of the Samurai, always the classic.

[@pnutz_2]

the soul of a warrior is forged in his blade the iron must be smelted for 3 days it must be folded to remove the impurities too hard and it will shatter, too soft and it will bend but forged correctly, it can cut through the clouds in flight- gentlemen, manned by a crew of 4 and capable of firing at over 200 rounds a minute, this is the gatling machine gun!

[@carltonbauheimer]

If all five arent the original Medieval, the list is wrong. Edit: the list is wrong!

[@SereglothIV]

1. Medieval II 2. Medieval II: Crusades 3. Medieval II: Britannia 4. Medieval II: Teutonic 5. Medieval II: America 😂

[@Dishol]

Original Medieval doesn't get enough love. The soundtrack alone is amazing.

[@alexfeder9328]

If only it goddam worked on modern tech and high unit count didnt wont up the sieges ​@Dishol

[@florians9949]

@@SereglothIVdebatable for Americas. You only have three factions, one is so ridiculously more powerfull than the other two. And fighting in thick jungles must be the most painfull experience in this game.

[@derekaarts4997]

@@Dishol Best troop role diversity of them all.

[@russ2120]

I will say for Three Kingdoms, the fact that they don't cover the actual time of the Three Kingdoms period makes perfect sense. The Three Kingdoms period refers to the time between 220 and 263 when the Three Kingdoms of Cao Wei, Shu Han and Wu were actually relatively stable. There was tension but no major political change; borders mostly maintained their shape. I never understood this argument. 190 and 194 are the best start dates and match up with the bulk of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

[@Eantrin]

The fact Total Warhammer doesn’t have the Avatar conquest mode is a crime…. Soooooo much potential in customizing your personal lord and army just like you’d do on the tabletop.

[@TehFishey]

I get why he maybe wouldn't want to go into it, but not mentioning TATW when talking about Medieval II seems like a real oversight. Like, "mod support" in general as a perk is one thing, but I'd bet that a significant portion of the game's current playerbase (by Steam numbers, at least) are people running that conversion specifically.

[@Hrolfgord]

Legend rarely plays any modded total war games so he can’t honestly give a good review of something he doesn’t play or use

[@rebelrouzer5318]

I know DaC is by far my preferred total war game

[@grechdania]

That's the single most well-edited legend's video, lol. Very nice work, man!

[@Owlr4ider]

Empire Total War, now that is not on release, is genuinely a great Total War game in a very unique setting(the latest of any Total War game to date) that still receives a ton of hate from people who either remember its release state(which was atrocious) or never bothered learning its intricacies to actually use its systems well. It still has its flaws of course but it's far better than most Total War fans give it credit for(even unmodded). Likewise Rome2/Attila(basically the same game, blasphemy I know, much like RTW and BI only sold separately and with tons of DLCs for both) now(as opposed to on release) is a very solid Total War game. It has its drawbacks of course like the whole city/province management but it did a lot of things right too. With all that said, Total War boils down to 2 main aspects: campaign and battles. In terms of battles it's Shogun 2>Medieval 2/Rome 1, Rome1/Medieval 2>everything else. In terms of campaign its all over the place as it depends on which campaign mechanics you personally prefer, like say whether you like or dislike the province system from Rome 2 and onwards or how much value you put on diplomacy with the AI. To me Three Kingdoms is absolutely not a top 4 Total War game because all it really has is diplomacy, and that's not why I play Total War. I mean yeah, I wish the other Total War games had a better diplomacy system, but that alone doesn't make a good Total War game Imho and the rest of Three Kingdoms is meh at best. Similarly while I do like Warhammer(well I only played 2, not 3) I do absolutely prefer the older Total Wars mentioned above in terms of battles as ever since CA changed to stats driven combat rather than the old system combat just doesn't feel as good, despite all the variety Warhammer has to offer, and is also the reason why I value Three Kingdom's battles so low.

[@darthioan]

Had to check twice if this was a LTW video, and I understand why such a huge difference in delivery, the sponsor. Really happy to see such a big sponsor. Congratulations!

[@farhadnikzad1514]

IMO, the things that I like to see in future TWs: - Settlements' unlimited construction slots (as in TW Rome or Medieval 2) - Every settlement acting as an independent province with having a few minor towns (as in TW Empire or Shogun 2) - Improving garrison units by constructing every building - Implementing naval battles - Having food mechanics - Battle-map visible armour and weapon upgrade - Removing any AI cheats

[@Tinylittledansonman]

I like the Atilla/R2 system. In M2 youd just be so unrealistically powerful by the mid game. Having to balance unit production cores with your food and economy is really fun. It definitely added a lot of depth to what used to be a pretty bland and simple system.

[@Rafalskimi]

Hm, my list would be 1. Warhammer 3 2. Medieval 2 (especially the DAC mod) 3. Shogun 2 4. Fall of the Samurai 5. Empire/Napoleon (I have a soft spot for naval battles and musket warfare)

[@FREECIVVIE]

I would kill for empire with napoleon ai and stability

[@MajorDryhole]

I'm still waiting for a day they will finally do Empire 2

[@BalthasarGelt-x2d]

Shogun 2 and Fall of the Samurai are the same game.

[@davidshaw123451001]

@@BalthasarGelt-x2d They're not, especially for those of us who bought them separately

[@adriankoch964]

Shogun 2's tier list placement causing a realm divide is a nice line.

[@Horatiusxa]

Medieval 2 is a masterpiece, it’ll always be my number 1, even getting close to 20 years old

[@zackariahtravois7125]

Also another thing, Medieval 2's tutorial seems to be bugged where you just simply could not disembark your ship on your point

[@sagittarius5466]

Aye that’s a nice fucking sponsor you got there mate, good for you

[@slipperywinston4076]

Hi legend, on the off chance you read this I just wanted to give you some feedback on the new format of the video. I appreciate the work that's gone into it, it's undoubtedly more concise and the cinematics really add to the experience especially for new viewers , that may ultimately help you in the algorithm. However as a a long time viewer I do appreciate the previous style of video where you have a habit of going off topic slightly and rambling about things normally not in the main script of todays video, i've learnt a lot from your off piste analysis. However It's all absolutely fine, It's sill a good video, I just don't want it to become 100% of your vids going forward. Your vids always felt so personable before and that's one of the main reasons i liked them. Also congrats on the new sponsor, that's really great for the channel :)

[@badclassicalmusic]

personally i think of the biggest benefits of warhammer 3 is the diffrence between the factions, in historical games obviously most factions are pretty similar, but in fantasy even the humans play almost entirely difrenf from one another

[@johnirby8847]

I play Rome Remastered every day. I wish they would remaster Medieval 2 or make Medieval 3. Return to their roots and what made them famous!

[@thespearton4551]

I loved that you still threw hands with Atilla through the script. Definitely prefer your rambling style, like I'm genuinely hearing your thoughts though you did a great job regardless.

[@the_robinbrown]

I just got Warhammer 3 and all the DLC on Steam for $60. I think it's well worth it for that price.

[@jamesstorr390]

Have you tried cd keys I get all my games on there usually half the price 3 kingdoms was £6 and steam was like 40

[@gamesmaster1060]

​@@jamesstorr390DLCs can be a bit weird in CD Keys but it is good

[@jarosawmarekgopek6639]

I agree, TW:WH3 only by numbers is the biggest and most satisfying one. I'm afraid that in Medieval 3 I will be lacking trolls or hydras charges. For me, ME2 is second, Rome1 3rd, ME1 4 and then Attila (with mods;))

[@yemannwaiphyo8817]

"Medieval 3 When?" ~Every Total War Veteran

[@aliasonarcotics]

video is very clearly read from a script and i'm not sure i like it. perhaps legend just isn't used to reading a script because his content has almost always been more free-form talking? i understand that some audience are turned off by so-called 'yapping' and i appreciate that he's experimenting with his content to try and improve it. but it doesn't sound like 'legendoftotalwar' if that makes sense haha

[@alfredomartinez1082]

probably has more to do with the sponsor asking to see and approve a script as part of the agreement

[@cursesin]

Tbf this video seems to be more aimed at people newer to his channel, the veterans probably already knew his opinions

[@dogeknows6086]

No one cares

[@sacralige]

For someone that usually doesn't edit videos apart from cutting out load times (as far as I can see anyway), this was some top tier editing dude! Edit: I suddenly remembered you studied this, it shows :P

[@Floris_VI]

Yeah i totally agree!

[@lyall1412]

I almost completely agree with you, But I would put total war shogun 2 at the spot of medieval 2. Medieval is great but it does feel like an old game. Where I would argue Shogun feels Newer than most total war games brought out prior to warhammer 3, because of how smooth everything works in the game.

[@erensametkaratas6593]

Are we back with Top 5 videos? great!

[@niallbaker7347]

A really cool Feature from MTW2 and RTW was if you destroyed a faction you could then Play the campaign as them

[@freaki0734]

As someone who has usually played more multiplayer than singleplayer in tw games the multiplayer of shogun 2 always threw me off. I don't wanna have to level in order to have the same opportunity as my opponent nor do I want to have an advantage just based on the time I have put in

[@mojom.9221]

@LegendofTotalWar. A little disclaimer for 3:20 Rome 1 is not the Only TW Game which Recruit Soldiers directly from your Population. This Mechanic is implementet in TW Empire, too. If you Recruit in a Province, it's Population will drop the same amount of People. And if your Province has fever People, then you wannt to recruit in Soldiers. You can not recruit in this Province, until the Population rises again. But this really only effects you, in the small Colonies Provinces of America or the far East Russian Provinces. Which have a very low starting Population of only a few hundret too thousand Settlers. Most Provinces in Europe or India have more than enough Polulation for everything.

[@booradley6832]

NGL Medieval Total War 1 is an absolute banger. I started playing it again last year and had a great time. Its a LOT more challenging that Medieval 2 as well. You can start at 3 time periods and tehy basically function as difficulties, early is easy to even sometimes hard, high is medium to hard and late is hard to even near impossible with some. Much more of a 4x the live combat is weaker but that 4x is really cool, set up in a chessboard style. And my god is trade powerful. You have to do a lot more of governor watching though. Positive and negative traits have a lot of power. If you try to play though you need to set the resolution in game to a higher size or it crashes a few yerars into the campaign. Idk why it both breaks and corrects it but it fixes it.

[@HeavenlyIntervention]

I agree. Medieval 1 is really under-appreciated. It has that real "medieval" feel to it, which even Medieval 2 being a great game in its own right, doesn't quite fully capture. I guess its a combination of difficulty, chilly soundtracks and ambience.

[@dannyp9210]

And the music ...!

[@eduardosousa9106]

Theres something to be said about RR though. Its moddability means everything you said was good about med2 can be recreated in Rome Remastered. There are mods that replicate the recruitment system, and others that use entirely new systems. It also allows for multiple models per unit, making it possible to have soldier variation, and this can be set by weapon and armor levels, meaning the same effect you see in med2 can also be put in place. Additionally, just the sheer scripting possibilities make RR the best potential game with mods. Basically anything you could think about could be created in the game

[@blakeares3424]

I'm surprised Attila didn't make the list. It has a lot going for it in spite of it's flaws, and I would have put it over Rome. Especially when Medieval 2 is on the list, basically an upgraded version of the same game.

[@selder_7]

I love battles in Rome Total War for being shock and awe. Battles are seldom won through attrition, the battle is one in only a few moments where one side starts to break and the panic spreads. You can win a battle by only killing 10% of the enemy

[@Vitrolin2408]

I think if TW:WH had permadeath for everyone like classic TWs i'd give it more favour. The is no strategy, or tactics, or formation, to deal with a level 30 Tyrion running at you. Can i beat him? Yeah, of course. But it has nothing to do with any skill, ploy, ruse, or maneuver on my part.

[@adriankoch964]

The ruse is to ambush him twice, hide and wait for him to calmly walk off the battlefield only to get wiped out. :c)

[@AAS1-kp9cs]

I liked both videos, but the second was more free flowing and sounded more natural and fun to listen to. Would recommend creating bullet points for key points you want to cover but not fully scripting it. Cheers.

[@vorynrosethorn903]

Honestly I like the BOTET mod for Medieval Two a lot more than Total war Warhammer, the only thing I really like about Total War Warhammer is the design of the ui, everything else, the mechanics, the battles, they way all the units seem to float and have the weight of clouds, I just really regret spending the money honestly, BOTET is a great mod and perfectly represents the lore and vibe of the setting, on top of this medieval two remains a better game at its core than the newer titles, the mechanics and engine it brings still offer a great deal more potential than anything modern CA is able to deliver on.

[@derekaarts4997]

I love Medieval 2 but it is too easy. Some epic citadel defenses.

[@nSLost]

I've been randomly watching a ton of your older content, including all the old Top 5's you used to do and loving them. This just came across my suggested content feed and I assumed it was years ago too, but super happy to see it's coming out today instead. Love the content, Legend!

[@TheJman669]

Two TW games that I hold above the rest though did not age great is the classic Rome total war, and the disliked Empire total war. Shotgun 2 is also goated.

[@justpassingthrough686]

No joke- Rome Total War (the first one) and TWH3 are so good that I actually uninstalled them because they were LITERALLY ruining my life with their addictiveness. One day- when I am stronger... I will reinstall them both.

[@h0ll0wknight16]

PLEASE MAKE MORE CONTENT LIKE THIS !!! I like your disaster battles and streams, but this I LOVE

[@tedrow70]

Dude it looks like you’ve been still doing fantastic. Great to see! Nothing but growth and I’m so glad! You rock, been watching your stuff for man has to be almost a decade now. I’ve never been huge oh Warhammer 2 but I’ve loved the other ones and especially your stainless steel playthroughs, mtw2 in general, and rome, really all of them. You’re great to learn from; always appreciate your stuff cheers for the growth!

[@olefredrikskjegstad5972]

Medieval 2, particularly with the Stainless Steel Mod Shogun 2 Rome 1 Attila Warhammer II, with Juggernaut999's rebirth mod Honorary Mention goes to Napoleon

[@irishtom30]

What does the stainless steel mod change?

[@FREECIVVIE]

@@irishtom30 Adds units, factions, expands the map by about 1/5, focuses on historical accuracy.

[@olefredrikskjegstad5972]

@@irishtom30 Stainless Steel is an overhaul mod for Medieval II that works according to an approach I think of as "the same game, but more!" The map is enlarged, there's more factions and more units. There's more customization and two different start dates to play. The various expansions such as Crusades and Teutonic have some of their elements folded back into the base game. It's the sort of mod that just makes the game better at what it's already good at.

[@TheNetherlandDwarf]

I've been playing napoleon and shogun recently. MoSS mod for shogun is still a ridiculous overhaul i come back to every few years. (but quite a lot of campaign content bloat ngl, so many units, so many buildings, the base game is itself such a fun streamlined experience, but if you want more campaign features, try it out!). Unlike Attila (which Legend mentioned at 1:52) Napoleon did eventually (aka last year... when they were forced to go back and removed chat from all the games) get a fix for its small issue of not running on modern hardware, and its still to me a far more polished and enjoyable experience to anyone who liked Empire TW. SS and SSHIP for M2TW are other mods I'd recommend.

[@DiggDuggDude29]

I don't agree with WH3 being #1. There is way too many bad things holding it back. Sieges, garrisons, minor settlements, diplomacy, combat animations, settlements in general, "naval", units sliding around unable to hit a single entity, Lords being giants compared to infantry, Karl Franz's armor is the wrong color still, ignoring some faction mechanics is "optimal play", some factions have been left in the dust and have barely been touched since the first game *Vampires*, the best armies consist of one unit being spammed, large parts of faction rosters should never be used, the AI has no idea what it is doing and routinely dukes its drawers during siege battles, the AI will rabidly go after the player at its own detriment for no reason, a lot of spells are very inefficient to use so you end up using the same ones over and over, Archaon looks stupid, power creep from DLC characters and factions, I'm sure you can add more to the list but these are the things I could think of. This is the one Total War that I play modded besides Empire just because of how much is wrong with it.

[@khankhomrad8855]

I was thinking about that too. In a sense Shogun 2 and TW3 are polar opposites. Shogun 2 doesn't have a lot of content to offer, but what is there is some of the most polished content CA ever released, meanwhile TW3 has tons of content but most of it is a mess of bugs and unpolished stuff that got piled on over the years.

[@Lones555]

Vampires are still one of the strongest factions in the game, that's likely why they don't add new things for them. Vampire Coast on the other hand have a unit roster where over 90% of units are just unusable forcing people into Necrofex spam which gets tired fast. They need a huge rework and either remove or rework the countless units that do absolutely nothing.

[@shetlandapache949]

If this video were talking about multiplayer, i could understand tww3 being near the top, but singleplayer in this game is ridiculously bad compared to any title that came out before it

[@halwakka504]

@@shetlandapache949 I preferred 2 to 3 but it's considerably better than 1.

[@BittermanAndy]

I mean, I recognise that you did list a lot of things there, many of which I can't dispute (and I firmly agree about sieges), but... "Karl Franz's armour is the wrong colour still"? Right, because NONE of the other TWs have ANY minor inaccuracies like that.

[@verymiddleagedgamer]

this video has convinced me to upgrade to Warhammer 3 from 2. Anyone know or can link a LOTW DLC teir list? Tried searching channel and probably being dense but couldn't find one

[@AlexTardiff1]

Glad to see 3K make the list

[@devarshitalukdar553]

Total war would be on a whole different level if it brought out how the mediaeval times were in the Indian subcontinent. There are lot to explore - from local rajahs to empires total war can easily build on it for so many dlc's and would never go out of ideas because there is so much to explore.

[@danielcaruso5155]

Would love to see India again . . . in Empire II

[@KimmoKM]

I think Fall of the Samurai needs to be distinguished from Sengoku Jidai, which makes it the best game in the series: after all, it builds upon already polished S2, but addresses many of its greatest shortcomings. * Limited unit variety? You now have both modern and traditional troops, effectively giving you the same list of unit archetypes as Warhammer save for one-entity monsters (and then you also have naval bombardments, first-person controllable units, and the units are better distinguished from each other tactically while in WH it's a lot more about stats). * S2 basebuilding? It's still relatively basic, but no longer is upgrading settlements a trap option, and instead investment actually pay off handsomely and so makes city-development the most satisfying out of the series. * Logistics, while the system is simpler than 3K, takes the good elements of older games (units don't need a general) and newer games (attrition mechanics, also balanced in such a way that you can't instantly recover from battles like you pretty much can in Warhammer), includes game-specific novelties like railroads, unit speed matters (cavalry armies are more strategically mobile than artillery), and the Japanese geography just makes for interesting gameplay (mountainous territory gives lots of ambush sites, choke points, etc) * Agents are the most impactful out of any TW game * S2 diplomacy is largely irrelevant because of Realms Divide? In FotS the allegiance mechanic actually matters. * S2 naval battles are bad? In FotS they are the best in the series. * Shogun 2 does melee well (due to being more polished and controlling more nicely, I think even better than M2, although M2 does have a better foundation) but ultimately Warscape engine does ranged better and FotS has a greater focus on ranged combat. * The sheer spectacle of artillery roaring and gunpowder smoke filling the air is the best in the series: Medieval 2 is strictly worse and Warhammer is outright anemic in comparison.

[@BittermanAndy]

Ah yes, S2:FotS, also known as Find A Hill Simulator. Sit on the hill, win.

[@TheRewasder97]

I agree with basically everything you said. I gotta say, if Dynasties gets a Mythos dlc, it would very likely get in my top 5

[@matthewneuendorf5763]

The top 5 Total War games that I am still playing in 2024: WH3, Atilla, and that's it.

[@pastillasconpure]

Attila best historical total war by far

[@bogdan5411]

Totally agree, wh3 #1 and Atilla #2

[@yassinhafez1337]

Attila has aswell one kf the best dlcs in history and ofcourse medieval mod​@@bogdan5411

[@Nick-mp1zh]

Atilla has its issues, but the battles themselves are just so fun to play

[@BlackWallMute]

i never got into atila but i got it late and by the time it feelt outdated. Nowdays i have trouble playing any older TW :(

[@Noldodan]

Hey Legend, given your love of Med 2 and TATW, I'd love to see you play Divide and Conquer sometime. IMO it's the greatest Med 2 experience, for the unit diversity, campaign design, and all the love and polish poured into it over the years. It even fixes the stack spam that Med 2 usually devolves into (especially Stainless Steel).

[@RychNovsky-ld3hf]

1. WH3 2. Med 2 3. Shogun 2 4. Attila 5. Rome

[@IAMTHEJUGGERNATE]

Ikit's strong, but I wouldn't call him OP in WH3. You feel OP when you get to ambush on offense, but you're such glass cannons with weapons team armies that you're always one attention lapse away from having cavalry/monsters/heroes deep in your lines causing major problems. Good spell casters can also ruin your day if they get too close to your lines and you are very map dependent - if you get stuck in thick trees, you're going to have a tough time. By contrast, the Changeling is the most OP because he essentially can't lose once he gets going. Then I'd say the good Warrior of Chaos lords like Archaon and Festus are more OP than Ikit - it's a bit RNG reliant for which units are available for recruiting, but the lords are so strong, they get to 1 man doomstack power level pretty quickly and most are both excellent in melee and powerful casters at the same time. And then there are other factions that feel roughly equivalent to Ikit's power level like Elspeth and new Gelt as well as Oxyotl and the Chaos Dwarfs. So he's definitely the best rat for my tastes (I know some call Eshin the best for the world abilities, but weapons teams and nukes are just more fun IMO), but I would just say he's top 20 for sure, and probably top 10, but not OP.

[@liammorris1018]

WH3, Rome 2, Shogun 2, Empire, Medieval 2. in that order.

[@h0ll0wknight16]

Ew Empire

[@liammorris1018]

@@h0ll0wknight16 The campaign map is second to none, diplomacy is great and sea battles are great.... everything else granted is terrible lol. Which is why i would love for empire 2 to be the next medieval title.

[@LinusLinothorax]

@@liammorris1018 The campaign map where the entirety of France is a single fucking province?

[@liammorris1018]

@@LinusLinothorax all countries were a single fucking province... What's your point?

[@msullivan85]

It's hard to argue with this list but my top 2 will always be original Rome and Medieval 2. Had the disk versions and sunk more hours especially into Rome than I would ever want to admit. Thousands upon thousands of hours. I don't know why but I've always loved the time period.

[@kolbehaldane]

1: Shogun 2 2: napoleon 3: medieval 2 4: Attila 5: empire Not including DLC's

[@danielwoods3896]

Putting Empire above warhammer is diabolical

[@danielcaruso5155]

I like your list very much ❤

[@kolbehaldane]

@@danielwoods3896 i haven't played warhammer sorry

[@kolbehaldane]

@@danielcaruso5155 thank you

[@belazarius727]

Important info which is never mentioned in the games description : active pause or not ?

[@lucky-lu6tc]

Rome 2 with DEI mod is PEAK

[@guffi00]

Never played mods, so I read it like Rome2 with "Diversity, equity and inclusion" mod lol

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

I’ve heard some very mixed opinions on it. I haven’t played myself, but just based on steam description it sounds VERY bad.

[@lucky-lu6tc]

@@shmekelfreckles8157 bro what are you on about? Every major KZbinr that still covers Rome 2 does it because of this mod Its still getting updates and even has it own custom campaign and website. Where did you hear a bad thing about it?

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

@@lucky-lu6tc reddit, mostly, I admit. But again, just reading the description doesn’t make me want to install it at all.

[@lucky-lu6tc]

@@shmekelfreckles8157 wgynot though? Nice new mechanics which arent overwhelming, new graphics and features and over 200 new units and complete faction overhauls And everything is as historically accurate as possible!

[@alcoolamus4208]

Funny your sponsor is Asus Rog, I just got my Asus Rog G16 and I'm having a blast with it playing WH3, R2, Attila and Empire

[@dumplingshakes22]

I really loved three kingdoms total war. Put a ton of hours into it

[@anonnymousperson]

Your video style has really changed and gotten a lot better over the years. It's really nice to see. Looking forwards to hopefully many more years of your videos.

[@glhf22]

1. WH3 2. Three Kingdoms 3. MED2 4. Shogun 2 5. Attila

[@RichyRich2607]

Med2 is without nostalgia not a better game than recent tws.

[@Sakarraterrum]

Personally, I prefer this kind of videos rather than non scripted videos which sometimes seems they are improvised. This is more "profesional" and clear

[@WarAndHistory.]

Rome 2 as No 1 or we riot

[@SagaciousOwl]

Jupiter be praised!

[@Sixeye_]

I agree.

[@danielcaruso5155]

Rome 2 is the TW I spent the most hours but tbh it's not the best. Too many mechanics which don't really matter and campaign is too easy on legendary.

[@SagaciousOwl]

@@danielcaruso5155 rome 2 UI design is more clear to me than any other total war game and the time setting is the best because of the diversity it offers. Nothing in history is cooler than to have greeks, romans and persians fighting for supremacy

[@juangabrieldominguezsarmie5614]

I went back to play Europa Bararourm 2 last week (mod medieval 2) after 7 years of playing the latest titles... what a pleasure, it is just a lot more enjoyable, the slower expansion, slower battles, lots more regions, personalised factions reforms. It is just better, despite it age.

[@zmaj114]

don't let my man cook again 😭

[@tgfbroly5354]

Ever again😂

[@iRiDiKi]

I think people sleep on Three Kingdoms so much. If it had a mode where you didn't lose if you didn't rescue the emperor, it would be perfect as far as historical TW goes IMO.

[@729060]

Pharoah Dynasties is definitely worth an honorable mention. Included a lot of the diplomacy things mentioned with 3 kingdoms but with a decent combat mechanics. Only downside was its small scale on launch

[@RayVothney]

No matter what they come out with I always go back to Attila. Being able to play as Celtic Units from Ireland and Scotland is awesome. The only thing that bothered me about Attila is the late game AI stacking, which usually turns out badly for this human opponent :)

[@Adam4ik3579]

5 Napoleon 4 Empire 3 Rome 2 Medieval 2 1 Shogun 2

[@zyven12345]

It does sound a little stilted, like reading from a script. Kinda like youtubers reading sponsor ads in the middle of their content. So I would recommend using bullet points to hit key topics instead. and using your natural voice. But I was still entertained and watched the whole video. All praise the holy algorithm.

[@jredubr]

No warhammer title deserves to be in a list among the historical Total Wars

[@jamescooke7243]

Yea. Why add their most successful title 😂

[@giorgaras1851]

Historical total wars are garbage. I tried medieval ll and wanted to off myself by how bad the gameplay was (especially by how bad the replenishment and the battles are or the fact how many random rebel armies spawn despite all my settlements having 150% public order).

[@jredubr]

@@giorgaras1851 Learn how to play it and you'll appreciate it a lot more.

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

The remaster has some nice touches there and then, but more importantly uncapped provinces, factions... which is massive for modding. That's the main reason why I want a M2 Remaster

[@melbifk]

Bro lost me in 17:20 :(

[@Crunchsnap]

I’ve played Rome 1 & 2, Shogun 2: Fall of the samurai, Empire and Attila. I only really spent any real time with Rome 1 and 2. I got Warhammer 1 around release but I did not enjoy it. Now, I recently bought Warhammer 3 with almost all the race packs on sale. This is for sure my favorite total war game of all time. It has been maybe 2 weeks but I have never had so much fun with a total war game before. It costs a lot, especially if you have an interest in pretty much all the races like me. To me, it has been worth every penny. Whenever I start a new campaign I am happily overwhelmed by all the faction choices that are available and I know that I would love to replay all the campaigns I’ve tried so far. There is so much content, it’s the best kind of insane 🙏🏻

[@danielwoods3896]

Same, I feel like a lot of the hate for the warhammer games comes from elitists that never gave it much of a chance because they find the spells and fantasy elements silly. It’s just so much more unique and fleshed out than other total war games.

[@tosh7031]

i still love MTW especially the simple strategic map. control was a bit messy but it was still epic. and of course napoleon, so cool to play such historical battles.

[@inayasupian]

Can you also do a top mod for 2024 for Total War games

[@realbram]

Great video. I don't like playing Warhammer myself but variety- and contentwise it's better than the others so it deserves to be #1. I hope they let some outside company develop medieval 3; I don't want to see Richard Lionheart casting spells or have a medieval battle last 3 minutes.

[@Fr1kaD3ll37]

my list before watching: 1 Shogun 2 2 Warhammer (i dont put a number bec i see 2 and 3 as updates basically) 3rome/barbarian invasion 4rome 2 5attila (i didn't play medival 2, i only had rome /barbarian invasion in my childhood and its still my go to old school tw)

[@g21hawk]

for me to this day, despite its flaws attila total war has one of the most fun gameplay experience of any total war game, with deep variety of units and playstyles, but god I love the cavalry charges in attila. Doing a doomstack of 20 horses is just pure fun.

[@timl2098]

I really appreciate the amount of effort that's gone into this. It's got detailed substance behind the opinions and it's opened my eyes to some of the titles. I've always enjoyed your content, and I genuinely enjoyed this informative and professional work. Thanks for everything you do. FWIW; my titles of choice would be WH3 > 3K > Shogun2. I do have both Medieval2 and Attila though i've yet to play them (Steam sales). Take care.

[@maelmir]

Been loving going back to Three Kingdoms and it is a shame it got left where it is, currently playing a campaign as Dong Zhou and the worst thing is the random spawns of 1-2 looter armies in the back corner of my kingdom that are too high tier to defend with just minor settlement garrisons.