The Top 5 Underrated Guns [2021 Edition]

[@SamsonMFGPRO]

Hey guys! We HUGELY appreciate the mention of the Samson A-TM Folding Stock for the Ruger Mini-14 at 16:58 ! And we would love the TFB TV audience know that we'll be releasing the these fantastic folders in Black Oxide finish early in Q1 2022. That also goes for the B-TM folder, made expressly for the immensely popular Ruger 10/22, which is available right now. Thanks, brothers!

[@Mandalore6311]

I love my Mini 14s and my A-TM! A guest came on my range yesterday with his new Mini and I made sure to tell him about it.

[@jupiterjunk]

The A-TM is a fantastic stock, and makes the Mini-14 look like it should. However, it's name... Maybe it's just me, and maybe my mind is in the gutter, and maybe I've spent too much time on sites that I shouldn't, but A-TM makes me giggle every time someone says it. .

[@nunyabeeswax2575]

@@jupiterjunk pls explain..............lol

[@unbrandedindustriesincorpo1701]

@Samson Manufacturing :) can we get a discount code I don’t have any money in my ATM.

[@Barefoot-Bob]

with the A team style folding stock does it miss everything it points at like the A team ? that show make me want to barf ! lol all kidding aside they are nice looking !

[@defenderofpoodles5606]

“As you can see, the gun did not explode”…well that’s certainly high praise indeed.

[@True_Patriotx]

Kentucky Ballistics has left the chat....

[@chairmanofthebored6860]

Not exploding is something I look for in all my firearms

[@bunberrier]

But the penguin on top of his televison DID explode.

[@defenderofpoodles5606]

@@bunberrier Intercourse the penguin!

[@visitmyhometown3181]

it's not high pressure loads! .40 cal had unsupported chambers. My 24L blew up in my hand! So i speak from real life experience.

[@liberaceboiithe3rd5]

“FN destroyed that gun and then they never talked to me again” Lmao

[@Shorty_Lickens]

FN makes overpriced junk, amazed militaries actually contract with them. But the Hi-point is not a great choice for something you need to defend your life with.

[@thatguybrody4819]

@@Shorty_Lickens if you treat it like it's cheap shit and it functions like shit i don't know what you expected. if you do at least bare minimum maintenance on it and take care of it you'll be surprised at how functional it can become.

[@bitterman3072]

5. AREX Delta 2.0 2:20 4. Hi-Point 380 4:50 3. Kel-Tec P-3AT 7:27 2. Beretta Px4 Storm 10:33 1. Mini-14 13:33

[@CA-by2br]

Thank you good sir

[@RandomGuy9]

You are a hero of the internet.

[@tandecastro]

Thank you. He talks too much.

[@mattwalters6834]

Hero

[@michaelwalsh3474]

Can we take a moment to appreciate the fact that James took the time to count the number of Skittles that match the weight of a .380?

[@psikogeek]

_F**K THAT_ ! The grain is my unit of choice for bullet weights. The Skittle is my *NEW* unit of choice for gun weights. Scientificameriken reports the average mass of a Skittle as 1.062 grams. That would make a 190 gram P32 weigh 179 Skittles. James either fouled up the math or misread his cue card. He's a KZbinr, lower your expectations on him.

[@marcosanaya9540]

@@psikogeek Or... he used a different source for his Skittle weight. Science is hard, give the man some slack.

[@chadh3441]

Hahaha lmao.!!! He thinks James can count!!! Lol. That's good stuff right there, he must be new. Lol. I'm kidding, I'm kidding, dam! We all know he's not new.

[@faryldaryl3975]

That was the .32 he used the skittle scale on. I decided to use peanut M&Ms to make the number more impressive. My P3AT comes in at 87 pmms.

[@cariboucreates7988]

@@psikogeek it's 1.1 G

[@Fafafohi]

So, I bought super short shorts over the summer. They were blue and I had a white and red striped tank top. The combination of the two were going to be my Fourth of July outfit. My legs didn’t fill out the shorts properly. I looked foolish. My point is, James should be commended for his ability to rock short shorts. It truly isn’t easy.

[@glockfanboy4927]

Aren't those shorts called nutters???? Hahahaha 🤣👍

[@Fafafohi]

@@glockfanboy4927 you’re the nutter… …of my heart.

[@markh.6687]

@Vanilla Vulture The "Ultra Gaaaaayyyyy!" Meme. I mean, it's Reno 911 all over again.

[@markh.6687]

@Vanilla Vulture That's cool. I didn't know about the asian guy/Community. Sharing is caring.

[@jonh7084]

I am soooooo stealing the "less accurate than a midnight piss" joke. Thank you for that.

[@ArmedVeteran1987]

I was looking for this comment :))))

[@usonumabeach300]

Dr. Reeves, why don't you break it down and do a series of underrated guns based on archetype? Handguns, shotties, rifles, and PCC's/SMG's? Stretch that content out, bra!

[@jasonchatham4170]

Reeves. This

[@colterhansen5960]

^

[@glasair38sr]

You’ve really gotta stop calling him that. It warms mom’s heart…then she figures out you’re referring to the Esquire (Juris Doctorate) son.

[@bensno7690]

Yes

[@brianshuler6951]

I bought a P 32 shortly after it came out and, after 20 years, it's still shooting reliably. For me, it is not a gun I shoot 100 rounds per session for fun. But, as a micro-micro pistol, it fills the back-up niche while taking up almost no space and adding almost no weight. It does what it's designed to do.

[@pewpewTN]

I've been wanting one of those for that reason alone. It's way smaller than my Glock 42 & that currently fills the backup/ gym shorts roll for me.

[@DylanHunter64]

Also, the mags have a last round slide lock, the P3at does not.

[@schrodingersgat4344]

I keep meaning to get one. This might be the year, though.

[@keller1334]

I carried a P32 for many years. It never rusted. The blueing started wearing off. I had it refinished and it ended up with my mom.

[@pickleeater3102]

Love my P32. Zero malfunctions, and super easy to slide into a pocket for summer carry. Highly recommended.

[@xvprototype123882]

I honestly agree with the Arex firearms in general, as the zero one is now my new carry gun and I'm enjoying it. However, one gun that I really enjoy is the RIA 1911 FS as a 1911 fan boy. The gun isn't special in any way the outshoot other brands but is serves as the base line for any modern 1911 as the price and parts can allow you modify and understand the basic behind its mechanics.

[@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920]

Rock Island makes the most 1911’s in the world by a significant margin. Definitely a great value there, particularly for a range/fun gun. Cool, old school 70 series design.

[@xvprototype123882]

@@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 sir, I had to read your name five time to ensure that it wasn't a comment from youtube themselves. But yes, I agree.

[@evildrizzt1]

I own two RIA 1911s. I have a fullsize nickel plated one and a black commander. Each one around $450. Pre pandemic prices.

[@YoDude0013]

Just got a TAC Ultra and have been very impressed with it. Have not had your experience with availability of parts- I can't even get a magazine for it at the moment.

[@chadh3441]

Have you tried Midway to see if they have any mags? I haven't bought anything from them in the past few years though. Around 2017, I ordered 2 -16rnd Mecgar mags to go with the 2 that came with my CZ-75BD. Just about everywhere I checked, the price for these mags were between $39.00 - &49.00 each. I believe Midway's price was about $20.00 - $25.00, same brand Mecgar. At the same time, I ordered 4- 8rnd Promags for my S&W 39A. These model 39A were issued a lot during Vietnam and had steel slides and aluminum frames. The only place I could find them was on Ebay and everybody thought they must've been made from gold judging by the asking prices.. I wasn't about to pay $45.00- $65.00 for a 8 round mag. Midway had several Promag versions for about $10 - $15 each. They had magas for just about every firearm you could think of and their prices beat most other places by a long shot. I just wanted to throw it out there so maybe it will help. Cheers

[@buildyourarsenal]

Love the Beretta PX4 Storm! Glad to see it on the list. It's an amazing handgun with great recoil control.

[@bryanduchane2371]

Never shot one, but it is always in these types of lists. It is so damn ugly.....

[@alexglenn2122]

@@bryanduchane2371 What don't you like about them? I own a couple, think they're "meh" in the looks department but don't get the ugly tag. Curious what bothers you about it.

[@tfbtv]

Yep. I never even considered owning one or even reviewing one. I'm glad I did.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

Its a decent service pistol, but its a pita to suppress.

[@Schregger]

I have a full size version in .45. It is softer on recoil then my 9mm Glock is.

[@zachjones1716]

The problem with the mini14 is you'll never see it for $900 in a state where it's form factor matters

[@PoeOutdoors]

The Beretta APX line (sans carry) has been underrated and underappreciated since their release.

[@dutch4260]

Not a huge fan of the APX. Maybe this changes with break in, but I find the trigger safety exceptionally bad. The trigger itself is okay, but honestly worse than my PSA Dagger. I'm a huge Beretta fan, I love the 90 series, PX4, CX4, and even to some extent the ARX 100. I carry a 92X Compact, however, I find the APX doesn't do anything a stock Glock or any other striker fired handgun can't do with miles better features out of the box, including Glock despite being a blank slate handgun meant to be customized.

[@shortbarrel6781]

You got that right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@tommccormick9290]

My first centerfire rifle was a Mini 14 that I bought brand new for $175.00 in 1977. Had only ARs ever since but this video reignited my interest. Never had more fun out of one rifle.

[@4d4Spl]

I payed $179 for mine at about the same time. The darned thing shot 9 inch groups at 100 yards. Sold it for $200 and was glad to get it. Later on a buddy had a 182 series, it shot much better. Rumor at the time was Marlin was making Ruger barrels. I doubt they were the best.

[@icelandviking1961]

I had one then also. Hey I could hit a barn with it. I was as good as the A Team.

[@4d4Spl]

@@icelandviking1961 You must have been scoped and inside to do that! LOL

[@FCV0511]

Glad to see the PX4 and the Mini-14 getting some love. They're both on my shortlist to purchase sooner or later. Another excellent video, as always!

[@LittleNemoGaming]

And if you love 7.62x39 there's the Mini-Thirty. Because 100 yard+ accuracy doesn't matter when you put a red dot on it and are never gonna fire it past 50yrds. That's what a .308 AR is for. XD

[@SnickterP]

@@LittleNemoGaming Can confirm. Just bought a new mini 30 and am in love. It even fires cheap Tula well!

[@lsteve5170]

James - I sincerely enjoy your content! Please keep it coming!

[@tfbtv]

Thanks, I'm glad to do it.

[@kyrozudesoya1829]

The PX4 looks like it has a Renaissance Era aesthetic. But the hype is real. Best DA SA CCW pistol you can carry and super easy to shoot. Glad people are coming around to this hidden gem of a pistol.

[@Adrian-yi8fl]

yep, love mine in 40 SW

[@stevesmith5042]

My favorite underrated gun is the Arcus 98DAC. Basically a 9mm Bulgarian DA/SA Hi-Power clone, it's heavy so it soaks up recoil, uses Hi-Power mags, plus you can carry it Condition One cocked-&-locked. Also, I just bought one for $350, so it's "inexpensive." Btw James, I've been to Thunder Ranch for the Revolver, Advanced Pistol, Shotgun & just last February Urban Rifle. I've also taken most of the pistol classes at Gunsite, some of which were run when Jeff Cooper & Clint Smith were there. I'm old! Love your videos. I was a smart-ass like you once. Now I'm just an ass!

[@tfbtv]

Ha, thanks Steve.

[@chrisgullett4332]

I think the most underrated gun is the MAC 10/MAC 11 pistols. The biggest complaint about them is that they are ugly, but what mature gun owner chooses a gun based on looks? The MAC pistols have basically turned into the AR15 of pistols in terms of how modular they are. You can switch out uppers just like you can on an AR15. There are even 5.56 uppers for MAC 10/MAC 11 pistols. Several different stocks, from folding, fixed, collapsible etc. I am actually surprised they are not more popular. I would honestly pick a MAC pistol over an MP5 or an UZI. Yes I said it, and if I had to choose between the three, I'd pick a MAC and not think twice about it. As for this list, I've never thought the Mini 14 was underrated, and it is my favorite rifle. Although I do prefer the older Mini 14 that people claim was junk. I think the worst thing they did to the Mini 14 was get rid of the big front sight. That big shark fin looking front sight is way better than the new front sight they use. I can understand Ruger using a thicker barrel, but changing the front sight ruined it for me. I just think it was much easier to stay on target with the old sight, and it gave a clearer field of view. It is like the new front sight gives me tunnel vision, and I just don't like it compared to the old sight.

[@firchkn7932]

L

[@Jc-ww5kg]

@@chrisgullett4332 totally agree about the mac 10 and 11 . The first run were all open bolts, and awesome

[@blackhawk7r221]

Cabellas was selling the Arcus. Always reliable CZ-75 clone.

[@jacobharris7711]

I agree, the Mini is a odd duck, mind has a 191- prefix and there is weird selector on the back. Ruger must have been confused back in the day. Even ruger's website doesnt list a 191 prefix. crazy.

[@VMEMotor5]

Technically, I don't think that's a Mini. I think it has something to do with Air Conditioning. LOL

[@charlessalmond7076]

If you are truly bothered by it sir, ill gladly trade you a new in the box mini?!?😆😅🤣😂

[@diegomontoya8095]

Check ruger forum. My 1022 from the late 70s isnt listed on Rugers website

[@deleterious_tactical_7024]

About 2 years ago I was able to purchase 5 mini 14’s and 3 mini 30’s. They where police trade ins and are in amazing shape, so I got them all for $200 a pop so walked out under $2k for them all. I’m so glad I did because even used they are going for $500-$800 today. They are bad ass rifles. So not surprised this is number 1 on your list.

[@stephaniemusick171]

I am one of those who owned a Mini 14 in the late 80s. It was durable, well constructed, ergonomically friendly and was indeed “as accurate as a midnight piss.” The lack of accuracy soured me. I’d love to shoot a newer version and see if it has redeemed itself.

[@nathanlewis5682]

Top shelf ammo like Black Hills probably would shrink those groups to almost 1 and half inch at 100 yards.

[@traumajock]

The barrels were too thin. They would heat up too much with just a few rounds.

[@traumajock]

But at point blank range, Platt had no accuracy problem with his in 1986.

[@blackhawk7r221]

Problem was, hidden under the front handguard, the barrel was lathe turned too damn thin. Like rediculous thin. I heard that much later Ruger improved the barrel, but I’m not sure.

[@nathanlewis5682]

@@blackhawk7r221 the new model barrels are larger outside diameter.

[@realQuestion]

I respect we moved past the era of (only) goofing on Hi-Point. Bought a C9 as a "disposable" gun in 2003 [!] and still no problems with it other than minor surface rust on one of the magazines. I appreciate the info about the changes to the Mini-14. I wasn't fully aware of that and will pass it on

[@Haloandtacos]

I own and carry the px4 compact. As a lefty I absolutely love the ambi controls on the gun. I prefer the da/sa trigger over my glocks. Nice video James!

[@RenjiMaili]

I hated Glocks.. until I handled a Gen 5 19. Now I am ambivalent towards them, simply because its a fine gun just like a civic is a fine car. You can dump tons of time and money into either and they will do amazing or just run stock and be happy with it. My Masada is happily filling the space that 19 left vacant.

[@Sig_P229]

What’s funny is most Glockites think the Gen 5 is the worst.

[@willcresson8776]

@@Sig_P229 As a leftie, I love that they finally have ambi slide release and mag release. Otherwise, they're... Ehhh, IMO. I prefer the ergos of Gen 3.

[@yeetergriffin1586]

I did and still kinda do but the gen five made me not hate them as much after shooting one just the garbage sights except 19x

[@scottclaiborne5123]

@@Sig_P229 Agreed. I actually love everything about the Gen 5 EXCEPT the front slide serrations. I think they ruin the aesthetics of the Glock. One man’s opinion.

[@Cant_Stop-Wont-Stop0329]

@@Sig_P229 I have both and I can tell you my edc is the gen 5 19 because it's more accurate and the trigger doesn't have a snappy break unlike the gen 3 trigger. Either way they are both great shtf sidesrms.

[@kevinlytle6215]

Mini-14 for the win on this list! That Arex(misspelled that...so edited) is one I hadn't ever seen before. Thanks for the full dump on the why you chose these. Have a great Christmas and New Year!

[@aotoda486]

9:00 fun fact, the AT in P3AT stands for anti-tank

[@AMXSShirt]

Sitting here recovering from hip replacement surgery laughing so hard spitting out my coffee. Thanks for what you guys do. Made my day. Very good info on the guns too!

[@mattwalters6834]

Glad you’re having a blast, take it easy with that hip.

[@AvengerM1]

Definitely agree with the Arex. Great lightweight, high capacity, thin handgun with lots of features (striker indicator, chamber loaded indicator, ambi controls, great grip texture, etc). The Arex Delta M 2.0 has become my regular EDC. Additional 17 round mags are easy to get and are inexpensive.

[@MikeNepo]

If they were still in current production, SKS would be up there. Grew up seeing all the surplus ones, but never had much interest until they skyrocketed in price during the surplus craze. Went in my local shop for ammo and they had a really nice Chinese Type 56 for 500. It was all matching, stock had some noticeable wear but the rest of the gun was very clean. It looked very Russian despite being a Type 56, and turns out with some more digging that's because it's a 1956 production rifle, back when the Soviets were helping produce the first batches in the Jianshe Arsenal, so it lacks all the later markings and just has a numerical serial number, darker wood and a blade style bayonet. Shot it for the first time yesterday, and damn it is really nice. Trigger beats out all my other military style triggers minus the SIG 550 trigger. Its stock lends to a far superior, more consistent sight picture than the AK (seriously, I fucking hate the standard pattern AK stocks) and loading the thing with stripper clips was like butter. Accuracy was ever so slightly better than my AK, but nothing spectacular, like 2.5-3 MOA at 100 yards, but still pretty good for as cheap and old as it was. Compared to my Steyr 1912 and other stripper clip fed guns I've loaded, SKS is the only one I could see reloading as fast as a magazine. Did not think my 500 dollar Chinese garbage rod would turn out to be one of my favorites. I also just don't see SKS fanboys out there like you see it's contemporaries. Definitely the most underrated gun I've ever bought.

[@leonswan6733]

Bought my first one in summer 1998 for $200 in a pawn and gun shop , Detachable mag standard barrel length all black pistol grip with folding stock Norinco. A co-worker talked of getting them for $100 long before then. I cringe at the prices they go for now. Whish i had a time machine to the 70s and 80s to buy guns ( Full Auto stuff too ).

[@leonswan6733]

@@johnelder4273 I feel it is hard to rapid fire a SKS like a semi-auto AK cuz the action bolt carrier moves too slow. I can pull the trigger faster than the bolt can keep up and i would pull the trigger and it would not fire because the semi-auto sear did not re-set. i would have to let the trigger forward to re-set then pull and it would fire. It was never meant to be full Auto. Mines never double fired on me but a co-worker did say his would double or triple fire sometimes. I feel the Semi-auto sear contact to the hammer would be wearing out when that happens and there is a delayed hammer letting loose. Good guns for $100 to $200 dollars.

[@googlepissoff5776]

@@johnelder4273 Aren’t those firing pins kind of a waste?

[@averydrew478]

Ive always thought that it would be cool if somebody manufactured an SKS in 5.56

[@NachozMan]

The SKS is one of the best weapons ever made hands down, if it weren't for the AK I'm sure the Russians would still be using it now lol. I'm really upset I wasn't financially able or old enough to buy one when they were still like 200-300$ when I was in HS. Plus now with the steel case ammo import ban shooting them will be even more expensive. Sigh.

[@spacetexan1667]

I’m digging the stash James

[@Kalashnikingz47]

You see? Even rust won't touch a hi point! 😂

[@gunny1271]

Nice picks. I really want to try the Storm out in .45 to see how much a difference its recoil system is compared to a tilting barrel. And the mini-14 is a great rifle. I don't have one yet, but its on my wish list.

[@dougpedersen3733]

Love the Keltec .380 & also have the Keltec .32. Bought the Ruger LCPs copycats, but still like the lighter weight of the Keltecs to drop in a pocket. Also had an early Ruger Mini 14 , but sold it due to disappointing performance , in favor of acquiring an AR-15. The newer Mini 14 does grab my attention and will likely add one to my collection in the near future seeing all the improvements and features. Thanks James

[@awalk56]

Good video. I bought 3 High Point 9s from a guy whose license was about to expire in the early 90s. I paid $72 apiece for them. I kept one and gave the other 2 to my Sons. My one boy said '"Thanks Dad, But it's not an S&W". Pissed me off. I said, "If you don't want it give it back. If you have to shoot a a sonofabitch I guarantee the last words out of his mouth won't be asking what make of gun you shot him with". Anyway, High Point guns are the SKS of pistols.. Tough, durable, etc... I've shot with guys who of course laughed but when their high-dollar pistols were jamming the High Point was firing away. If I were in a gunfight I'd I'd pick the High Point over my Taurus, S&W & Ruger. When empty I can always throw the heavy sonofabitch at'em. Even thinking about buying a new one.

[@NeuRekrut]

Love your picks, Mr. Reeves! Although, I was very surprised by the Kel Tec P380. I was NOT surprised by the mini-14. If the mini-14 was represented as a person it would probably look like Kevin Costner wearing fedora and smoking a cigar.

[@charlessheppard2089]

Still have my 181 series wood forearm mini 14 from the late 70s. Suits me fine for every purpose I ever had. Shoots minute of beer can and old TV all day long. Sure I have nice ARs but that 40 year old rifle makes me smile every time.

[@trvmcintosh]

The best part of the track suit skit was in true fashion we had our man leaning over a propane tank with a lit cigarette. Well done

[@riskyflash6812]

I absolutely love the footage of the Hi-Point being tested with the proof round. The setup is so half-assed and dangerous that it looks like something my friends and I would’ve done as kids with one of our dad’s guns while he was drunkenly passed out on the living room floor.

[@warrenharrison9490]

Mini14 not an assault weapon in Commiewealth of Marxachusetts. One of the few magazine fed .223/5.56 rifles legal to purchase new, along with Kel-tek SU16 bonus with Kel-tek it takes AR mags.

[@Sig_P229]

How about the RDBc? The SU16 had some loading issues and was replaced with the Kel Tec bullpup called the RDB-C. Check it out

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

Its superiority is being inferior in a land of inferiority.

[@christopherwharton6022]

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz it’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing. There’s nothing inferior about the gun at all.

[@christopherwharton6022]

@Random Pickle the average weight of an AR is 6.5 pounds, a mini 14 ranch rifle weighs 6.6 pounds. It has the same magazine/reloading design as an AK.

[@christopherwharton6022]

@Random Pickle they come with mounting rings that weigh practically nothing. I’m not that into attaching a bunch of crap to my gun, I feel like it makes the gun clunky and out of balance. That’s another great thing about the mini, it has such a good natural balance, it’s like a samurai sword.

[@ronaldmcelhiney5219]

Had one, never had a problem, never jammed and never had a falure to eject. Magazine release failed cost to much to repair, bought a new gun. Great video.

[@georgekirby3361]

I appreciate you being inclusive to the crackheads. It’s very problematic that most gun channels aren’t diverse enough to think of the poor crackheads.

[@markh.6687]

The Sarcasm is strong with this one.

[@chrisbaker978]

I think the FN 509 midsize is one of the most underrated guns. All the things Glocks are missing like metal sights, guide rods, and mags. Made in the USA being another major feature. Not to mention all the other little details and it costs less!

[@epeeist254]

Being a red dot fan, I also happen to think the factory FN 509 mounting system is the best in the category AND they send you all the plates and spacers along with the gun. Unlike my HK that I had to buy the plate aftermarket... I have an MRD and a Tactical, love the platform.

[@sgthop]

I am super not a fan of the 509. They're reliable enough, but the trigger on them is somehow worse than Glock and the fit and finish was atrocious on the two that I owned. The gap between the slide and frame was massive, and would be an ingress point for dirt and fouling. I liked some of the features, but the gun itself felt cheap. An updated FNS would have been much better.

[@chrisbaker978]

@@sgthop I respect your opinion brother. But you should know this, the gap as you call it(loose tolerances) is what allows the gun to function more reliably. The tighter tolerances on pistols such as 1911s is what causes them to seize up from dirt. The more space the easier it is to function and clear out the debree. I’ve had several and the finish on all mine is superb. I’m content with the trigger. Not the best or worst. But the combination of features, pricing, and overall quality is very good to me. FN is ahead of their time.

[@sgthop]

@@chrisbaker978 It would be one thing if they were all uniform, but none of the 509s I've seen have had the same gap, either, which leads me to bring up the poor manufacturing tolerances again. The 1911 comparison isn't exactly fair, as the 1911 uses full length rails. A more apt comparison would be the P320 or G17, both of which are incredibly reliable and do not have half-millimeter gaps in their frame that you can see through. The only thing the 509 has going for it is a nice optics mounting solution, other than that it's just a mediocre striker fired handgun.

[@chrisbaker978]

@@sgthop that cool man. Sorry you’ve had back luck with them. Out of the 8 I’ve owned I’ve not seen those issues but if you have I can understand your reasoning. It’s not uncommon for newly manufactured guns to have some qc issues. Glock, sig, and many others have had issues in new models as well to get worked out.

[@slr7628]

Nobody in the gun space on KZbin is as entertaining as you. Very funny 😄...I can almost predict the wording and content of other creater videos but with yours I never know what you’re gonna say haha

[@josephesquivel4066]

My Mini-14 was a basic Ranch Rifle 5.56 I bought on clearance from a Walmart clearance sale about 5 years ago for an insanely low price of five Ben Franklins. I picked it up from Walmart then headed over to North40 and bought some 20-round magazines and a range box of 5.56. It's been nothing but a joy ever since.

[@lobotomite9767]

I was at the dinner table with my dad last night and we got on the subject of guns, my father is very proud of his hi-point (I'm not fucking kidding) and asked me what the difference between it and my 600$ sig 356 was... I had to very carefully explain the quality differences without hurting his feelings.

[@nextlifeonearth]

Take him to the range and after a mag in both he should know already.

[@lobotomite9767]

@@nextlifeonearth dude I took him to the range a few years ago and he brought it and shot it for the first time (he's had it as his home defense gun for 5 years and never shot it) the piece of shit jammed chambering the first round and jammed every other shot on the first mag.

[@charlessalmond7076]

@@lobotomite9767 there's nothing you can say to people in denial.

[@SlavicCelery]

@@charlessalmond7076 I don't own any, but I've seen enough shot to know one jamming every other round is a sign of something god awful in that sample size.

[@lobotomite9767]

@@SlavicCelery I've fired 5 hi-points in my life (all different models) and each one had horrifying malfunctions and defects.

[@AJ-oj1xy]

The mini is insanely underrated. My first rifle was one of the newer mini 14 ranch models, with the same furniture as the one in the video. Not only does the gun cycle beautifully, but it’s pretty damn accurate. The trigger is also without a doubt one of the lightest, most crisp pulls right out of the box. Being legal in all 50 states also makes it well worth not being quite as modular as the AR platform

[@rickh9396]

I love my P3AT EDC. So small and light I almost forget I'm carrying it. Haven't had a malfunction for 12 years after I polished the feed ramp. Loaded with Underwood Xtreme Defenders, it's more than enough to do the job as long as I do my part.

[@AndrewDasilvaPLT]

Same.

[@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920]

People sleep on Beretta. They are a bit slow to get with the times sometimes, but all the stuff they make will pleasantly surprise you. I own 7 of them, all different types, from modern to WWII era stuff. Every single one is super reliable and accurate, many of them were used when I got them.

[@stephenbullock3938]

CX4

[@mattwalters6834]

@@stephenbullock3938 I like it

[@YoDude0013]

Favorite underrated pistol: Tokarev. It's totally impractical for carry but I just have never not enjoyed shooting it. Remarkable how accurate it is for the typical level of fit and finish and holy $#!T the fireball when you shoot it!

[@RGRundeRGRound]

I've shot my PP43C a lot, but never my Tok sidearm. Got a great deal on that one, with 4 mags, holster, cleaning rod. Plus a tin of ammo, somewhere along the way. I bet the fireball is impressive 😁

[@gringoamigo8146]

Yeah, but you can't deny how hard 7.62x25 hits. These lil guys hit so hard, they even defeat some body armor.

[@АлакПатрова]

7.62x25 is nasty

[@SpikeJonesTheCr0oked]

"The dice game defender" 🤣🤣 You sir are the funniest gun guy in the biz.

[@marco529]

My mini 14 was made in 1989, I paid $289 for it at a pawn shop in 1991. I was sooo stoked and just PROUD of my little rifle, then I shot it and found out why it was so cheap. I bought an SKS the next month and fell in love.

[@АлакПатрова]

SKS is so under-rated, and were so under priced. People bitch how much thry cost now but slept on them when they were 100 bucks I love them

[@floydteter4323]

Love the underrated guns videos - glad you got around to doing another. Proud to say that I own two on this list.

[@M81_WOODLAND]

I know it's not on the list, but I picked up a surplus Beretta 85BB based on your review of the Cheetah and couldn't be happier. My first .380 pistol, and it just such a smooth little shooter. And it looks great to boot!

[@rudolfyakich6653]

Fine work James. Loved seeing you in your Gopnik gear. I also agree that the Homeland of our most wonderful First Lady is a beautiful land. It has been fifty years since my visit and I still remember.

[@toofar7493]

PX4 Storm Full sized in 9mm was my first gun. I love it and most people that have shot it do to. I have found that all females (that have shot mine) like it better than other handguns, but they can't really say why. I can say that it is really accurate and will eat up any kind of ammo, plus having a 20 round mag option ain't that bad either. I love the way it looks and feels and suggest to play around with one the next time you see one in a gun store. (Disclaimer: it is a different feeling gun and not like a Glock at all, stock sights make you want to shoot lower but doesn't take long to get used to, and the stock trigger resets in a different spot than most are used to)

[@TheGunNerd]

How the fuck did you type this 2 days ago, this came out today?

[@springbloom5940]

Love mine, but can't carry it, because I have serious training scars from years on a manual safety. Plus the decock lever is a meathook. Modified it with a trigger stop to dramatically improve the trigger travel and reset.

[@khann844]

If you grew up in the late 80s to early 90s like i did it's a no brainer when talking about the mini14. That was the poor mans rifle running as low as 400 when ARs were running over a thousand. When the assault weapon ban hit my 20 mini14 mags became a nice investment! I sold half of them for hundred clams... and thats how i paid for my first AR!

[@MarcJaxon]

Slovenian Gangsta James is one of my favorite, but least used, variants of the OG model. Only slightly behind Solid Snames....which is a terrible portmanteau if ya ask me, even though I just made it up.

[@tfbtv]

no such thing as a bad portmanteau

[@MarcJaxon]

@@tfbtv should we explain to the poors what that means?

[@willcresson8776]

@@MarcJaxon that you like felating yourself?

[@MarcJaxon]

@@willcresson8776 Almost as much as your dad does.

[@alexwalker2582]

@@MarcJaxon Meh, I never tasted a wine that I liked anyways. I'll take my beer and whiskey you can have the overpriced grape juice.

[@markman2227]

17:04 to 17:08 agree 100%! Had an older Ranch Rifle version that I customized. ARS 3.5lb two stage trigger, cryo'd barreled action (300° Below) , NP3d internals, Rogaurd exterior. Wish she was still around and Robar too!

[@XDWX]

Steyr handguns are severely underrated. You should check them out. They are a cheaper better glock.

[@Q.Lawrence]

Agreed

[@georgevickers6752]

I agree with a Mini-14 rating, last time we were out my wife shot a three-quarter inch group with it at 100 yards. We were using Frontier ammo with 55 grain Hornady otm bullets.

[@darthvillarious]

James, when is Dave from Hi-Point going to release their new updated pistol? I don't see it on their site.

[@gmenendez9569]

Good vid! I don’t know why but I keep going back to Keltec bang for the dollar simplicity and fair reliability. Just like recent 2 models of the Taurus.

[@danieldonaldson1]

I would entertain getting a Mini 14 IF... 1) They made it compatible with STANAG/Magpul magazines. 2) They dropped the price some.

[@stevemiller7433]

and if it weighed less. It is far heavier than it needs to be, considering the round it fires.

[@tonytable1537]

If they just did #1 I'd get in line to pick one up tomorrow. I'm increasingly intolerant of proprietary mags with poor/absent aftermarket sources.

[@bradcampbell7253]

Converting an AR mag is doable. Search the tube of you's

[@tonytable1537]

@@bradcampbell7253 Thanks for pointing that out. Of all the bubbas I have worked with, I'd never heard about this before, figured the ribs were going to prohibit this kind of mod... hello game changer

[@nathanlewis5682]

@@stevemiller7433 Maybe if the stock was carbon fiber reinforced resin, take the weight down a bit. Still not a lightweight like a basic set up AR-15. no scope, pencil thin 16 inch barrel.

[@blackhawk7r221]

Long before anyone was buying AR’s, the Mini-14 was THE carbine to own. Scaled down M-14 with great reliability, but they ran the pencil barrels hidden under the handguard that did not lend much to accuracy. It was later improved. We also had things like the Marlin Camp Carbine mag fed in 9 or 45. But we also had 12ga Streetsweepers, MAC-10’s, and UZI’s.

[@leonswan6733]

love your comedy mixed in with the high quality gun reviews. Like the lady said to me last night.... " Don`t Stop!!! Keep it UP!!! " . A+ James .

[@rg-pq1kb]

4 reasons the Mini 14 is the greatest gun ever made: Colonel John "Hannibal" Smith Templeton "Faceman" Peck Captain H.M. "Howling Mad" Murdock Sergeant First Class Bosco "B.A.", or "Bad Attitude", Baracus

[@Kriss_L]

And they never hit anyone they were shooting at, either.

[@Bat-Twenty-Two]

@@Kriss_L Only 'cause they didn't want the Los Angeles underground flooded with blood.

[@rg-pq1kb]

Their purpose was to solve problems, not kill: "In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... the A-Team."

[@XSpector88]

While I love the PX4 Storm, I have to say I feel the CZ P-07/09 are superior polymer hammer fired guns for the simple fact you can attach a suppressor without it falling off in 3 shots! Also criminally underrated IMO.

[@Deathwarror01]

Parents had a PX4 Storm Subcompact. They got rid of it due a critical failure. Last round loaded 3/4 of the way into the barrel and jammed on the magazine follower. The slide was jammed in position. We could not eject the mag due to the follower. The follower had apparently gotten above the slide lock bar that is suppose to sit above the magazine follower. Somehow got under the follower. We had to take a hammer and punch to the slide to knock it back off the follower then take a screw driver to tilt the follower off the slide stop to then remove the magazine. Trip home from the range had the round stuck 1/4 out of the chamber. Never had that happen before on any other firearm, but that was the second trip to the range for that gun. It was a 40 S&W.

[@shootersresourcechannel642]

I need to get the PX4, I’ve seen some guys running them in IDPA and they performed well.

[@thomasschneiter8491]

I knew about the LLT trigger job before purchasing my PX4 Storm compact. Most gun people dislike this gun without even shooting it. Now, after spending some time at the range with it, I will keep it the way it is. The stock trigger is really great and recoil on the 9x19 is very easy to control. Thanks for reviewing this Itallan gem!

[@leonswan6733]

I have owned 2 Kel-Tec 3AT in the past ( first was 2003 ) and they are flawless, never jammed with good to high quality ammo. What you are doing wrong with that gun is never put more than 6 rounds total in that gun, One ( 1 ) in chamber and 5 in mag. if you put 1 in chamber and 6 in mag, the top 6th round in mag is too tight up against the bottom of the slide block and it tends to jam after the first round is fired. Second... is i use to cut down / file down ( its Plastic / polymer ) to flush against frame the mag release button. it tended to pop out the mag in my pocket. its fine when flush and you push in good with your thumb to eject mag. Its the best pocket gun ever!!!!! .380ACP !!!! not .22lr not .25acp not .32acp. " Dice Game Defender" I like that one James

[@jacobivy2854]

My first grown up gun was a Beretta PX4 Storm F. I still have it a decade later, though I EDC a Glock 45 now, my father still EDCs a PX4 Storm. It’s no CZ 75 SP-01, but they are really nice to shoot.

[@theparalexview785]

I was a sailor. I had a Mini-14 in the 1970s. Sailor talk. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ My only gripe about the Mini-14 was it's awkward to field strip and reassemble compared with the AR. I qualified on and cleaned the M16 enough to appreciate that advantage back then. But my Mini-14 was as accurate with the right ammo, including our handloads.

[@NavySooner]

Every time I go shooting in that underground dungeon of a gun range in Gretna I feel like I’m doing something illegal.

[@f3uibeghardt522]

Talking about a Kel-Tec in relation to Skittles. I saw that.

[@SamuelA3]

Damn it James I must have missed your video on the Rex delta, I was not ready for what happened at 4:09! Lmao also James if a glock isn't in 10mm I'm not interested.

[@duaneridings6591]

The PX4 Storm is a Sherman Tank of handguns I own a compact in 9mm & am currently looking for a full size in a .40 s&w

[@stevemiller7433]

I own a .40 full size.. It is easy to shoot well.

[@kuuryotwo5153]

I would suggest a S&W. I've got one full size in .40 cal, love it.

[@TheJHMAN1]

The P32 I have has worked perfectly. The design is so good Ruger stole it and made the LCP. With a little work I replaced the plastic trigger with an LCP metal one.

[@stopasking8139]

I always wanted to own both a mini-30 and a Beretta PX4, the mini is very expensive and I bought an AK instead and the PX4 cannot be supressed. Unfortunately, The ability to suppress my weapons is really important because I don't wanna drive my neighbors crazy shooting all the time.

[@KrippleKyle]

Bought my wife the px4 storm compact last year and we both absolutely love it...but I mean, its a beretta can't go wrong

[@ValoRuss]

Mini 14's are great! especially a 580 series,however finding good mags for it are a pain in the a$$.

[@georgeheidkesr1759]

The only mags that are reliable are the factory mags & mags made in the 70's/80's by Precision Mag Industries , and also sold under Federal Ord label......you can find um at gun shows, & arguably better than factory !!!

[@foughtwolf]

Tapco made some that were pretty bullet proof for a couple years. Steel feed lips and locking lugs. I guess they werent great sellers though as they pulled them off the market after a pretty short life.

[@stevenrichards3699]

Take a look at the SAR USA 9mm ! It is an outstanding value on a pistol that is machined and finished every bit as good as my Springfield XD9. It has pinpoint accuracy, glass smooth action, adjustable sights, adjustable grip panels, two 17 round magazines, an ambi safety, a hard case, and cleaning equipment all for $220 ! ( after $30 rebate as of this posting 12/26/21 ) Palmetto state armory has them with free shipping. This pistol is easily worth twice the money. You can't get a single mag Hi Point in a carboard box for that kind of money ! Get one while you can, this company will be dominating Glock in a few years.

[@reddune6185]

The rest of the world stands back, when we Florida men say.. "hold my beer"

[@mrgunner5351]

With the belt clip, the P380 and P32 will fit in a cowboy boot. Both have worked flawlessly for me as a last resort, pocket piece.

[@stvnbryan5542]

The "dice game defender"! Hahahahaha

[@DrumandPianoDude]

Great video! It makes me want the Beretta CX Storm Compact. I think the most over-rated guns are: Ruger LCP Max, Sig P365, Sig P320, Springfield Hellcat.

[@Dadof5-4]

I think a Kahr K9 should be here. It’s a gun we don’t see much about, but my 20 year old K9 has about 5,000 rounds through it and has no hiccups. The trigger is like a fine DA revolver and it pack very easy.

[@charles9571]

Only 5,000 rounds for a 20 year old pistol?

[@GustheGunGuy]

You only shoot 250 rounds a year? That's not exactly a glowing endorsement

[@Dadof5-4]

You guys are both right about the round count. Too many guns and not enough time .

[@ArmamentAxes]

I did not know Hop was short shorts James' older brother till his last video LOL. Great video TFB Tv. BTW Mini 14 180 series was the best

[@herbderbler1585]

Slovenia is also the home of another excellent youtube gun channel, Polenar Tactical. Very entertaining, I highly recommend giving them a look. Europe still has some countries and some citizens who appreciate their God given right to firearm ownership.

[@tfbtv]

Ziga, Manca, and Samo are good friends of mine.

[@herbderbler1585]

@@tfbtv excellent.

[@rickjohnson3215]

I own the Keltec p32 which is what the 380 is based on. I have had no problems with it. Is it a weak round, yes, but if you use fmj’s it penetrates quite nicely. I bought the 32 because the 380 recoil for a gun that small is just too snappy.

[@brodawg7381]

I think they did change the name a little on the Mini-14. I think they are called the Mini-14 Ranch Rifle

[@ShaulDawg]

They have tactical versions also

[@Bnic5]

Great video Alex C with TFB TV!

[@apizzaparty]

“Storm is best hammer fired plastic gun” hk usp enters chat

[@tfbtv]

Ha. I was waiting for this comment. I stand by the statement.

[@usonumabeach300]

My FNX calls dibs on the winner.

[@huntmatthewd]

Sig SP2022? I love both of mine.

[@RGRundeRGRound]

@@tfbtv lots of interest you generated here, James! I saw a recent video by TYM and he had a whole group of retro-Hammer fired, poly framed initially and now reintroduced as alloy frames... mostly Sigs. But I love the retrograde motion, poly-introduced, throwback to metal frame & hammer!! The DA/SA is a great idea, I'm still kicking myself for passing on that 90 series Colt... price was right, I had enough dough to put it in layaway and when I came back... it was gone. 😱

[@crutchy]

I wish I could give 2 thumbs up, one for the content and one for the Slav music video uniform tracksuit!

[@SurfingMammoth]

The mini 14 was the first rifle I ever bought living here in Communist New York, only thing I don’t like about it is that I had to buy the ranch version and it flings brass into orbit. Sometimes dings my car at the range

[@mattwalters6834]

Lol

[@jeremycook5393]

I was pleasantly surprised to see the Mini-14 make the only rifle spot on the list, as an owner of the “police” tactical model which comes with an Amega aluminum and railed hand guard. I added a reflex sight, and the gun gets the biggest smiles out of everyone I go to the range with. Performs great, super reliable, and so much fun to shoot. So glad Ruger and SA are keeping the Garand action alive.

[@stans5270]

"I'm pretty sure that MOST of them are SOBER the whole time" [unlike the US car manufacturers].

[@niickmoonias2101]

TFB TV .. I love this channel. You say funny stuff and share the details/specs of the guns you showcase. Would love to see what videos you put out next

[@GunSperg]

I guess I’m a weirdo because I’ve wanted to buy a PX4 Storm for a long time. They’ve always just been interesting to me.

[@proverbialmind_spread9421]

Best handgun I own. I have a compact .40 s&w and a full size 9 mm and just ordered the PX4 Storm SD .45 acp. You will not be disappointed.

[@GunSperg]

@@proverbialmind_spread9421 I’d already have one but I already have 2 pistols and keep buying and wanting to buy more rifles lol. I’m gonna get the full size 9mm PX4 eventually though.

[@Gunthusiest]

Waking up with a TFB upload ready to watch always starts my day off well. Fuckin cheers man