The Tories ‘shatter into tiny pieces’ as Braverman & Badenoch battle it out in leadership contest

[@aaroninky]

giles coren's act is insufferable. the guy thrives on odium, like those strains of fungi that grow on radioactive spills in unvisitable dark places.

[@ljd8520]

I met his dad, Alan , he was a proper gentleman. His Don however is a twit.

[@aaroninky]

@@ljd8520 he is a nepobaby par excellence. along with people like toby young who litter british public life with their hapless, tepid takes.

[@willc1294]

Those damm comprehensive kids and their sticky fingers!!

[@willc1294]

odd, seem to be double posting...

[@StratsRUs]

Giles and Victoria, nepo babies.

[@blu_maboo]

The arrogance of some of these commentators is astounding. "State educated", and "These are the same kids who bullied me for my lunch money on my way to public school". Rude and sneering.

[@adude9882]

Yes, it probably does unsettle them quite deep down. I voted Reform. When that woman said gammon, its all there.

[@jimmyrecard5056]

@@adude9882 There's no decent reason to vote reform

[@darrenbellenger1]

@@jimmyrecard5056 Seems like a lot of people are getting unsettled by them.

[@MrAoldham]

Giles is the typical champagne socialist, sneering at the average man in the street who went to state school.

[@johnmoody2365]

@@MrAoldham Coren is never a socialist, just your standard private school and Oxford educated entitled oik

[@NordieJ]

Giles is just vile. He really needs to listen to himself speak.

[@StratsRUs]

Viles Coren !

[@matthewcook9404]

Yawn. It’s over for the Conservative Party.

[@FredScuttle456]

Old song: The party's over. It's time to call it a day.

[@markdavids2511]

They’re called Labour now, there isn’t a left wing in the U.K. anymore,

[@richardjames3022]

Let's hope so

[@williamcarrington61]

Jimmy Savile got away.

[@stevecoppin6396]

@@williamcarrington61 but the tories gave him a knighthood

[@Dmac-7558]

The last thing the UK needs one of those two

[@randyschwaggins]

Makes no difference to the UK what a minority party does 😂

[@dianamincher6479]

Insensitive and immature black girls who sink the Conservatives

[@JamesMc2051]

Judging by her stints in the Home Office then if Braverman becomes leader she won't even make until the next election so it'd be a brief spell as opposition, at most. Any Tory who has designs on being PM would be better letting someone else go in first, take a lot of flak and then look to build on that later.

[@johnfleming3289]

The Tories need to go away and consider their options for at least a decade, then retire.

[@maccagrabme]

They should step aside and let Reform do the job.

[@ianfraser6161]

No. Ten decades.

[@zimri-lim8254]

Coren sounds like he's having a breakdown, what a supercilious, self-important berk. So very different to his sister who clearly got all the talent, and also comes across as quite grounded and a lot of fun.

[@davidboult4143]

The man who started a nasty rumour about Prince William, by telling a total lie, and had to apologise for it. Nasty piece of work. And yet, people still give him a job.

[@StratsRUs]

Maybe none of the Privately Schooled ever need to truly work at themselves, a facade will do.

[@catmonarchist8920]

Not exactly a balanced panel

[@AzguardMike]

of course not. If anythings even slightly right wing "bunch of racist, fascist, right wing nutters" this channel is pathetic. Gonna do the "do not recommend" on it.

[@williamcarrington61]

The Scales are faulty .

[@kevinrobb86]

If your looking for balance on this propaganda channel you will wait a long time

[@dianamincher6479]

Black barbarian Tories destroying the Conservatives!

[@StratsRUs]

Posh tools. Daddies still toolmakers.

[@SimonWallwork]

I have only one thing to say to these two. 'Nooooooooo!'

[@pubsignart5762]

Braverman should move to reform with her seat in Parliament

[@davidhollins870]

Farage has always demanded by-elections in such situations, which would be an interesting early test.

[@beecee2205]

she will do if she loses the leadership election

[@Tom_murray89]

They are definitely more akin to her politics than the tories

[@DavidJohnson-yg8qm]

I agree with a proviser being that she admits the last Tory government was mugging the electorate and REFORM'S presented policies are brilliant.

[@crayontom9687]

Wrong colour though

[@paulcarter4945]

labour wins from the centre - the Tories win from centre-right or right. ask Heath & Maggie. Cameron didn't get a majority May nearly lost...Boris purely won on a Brexit ticket and needed Nigels help

[@billdoor3140]

That was long before working class area's were flooded with Islamists by labour. Now strong immigration policies will gain the working class voters

[@jim-es8qk]

Cameron won a higher number of votes than Starmer. And he did win a majority

[@paulcarter4945]

@@jim-es8qk 2010 no - 2015 barely. mainly due to the collapse of the liberals. Starmer will always have that medal of the most unpopular winner

[@bobi6191]

​@@paulcarter4945Most unpopular winner, I like that. Hopefully he'll be competent, but he's proven he isn't very good at getting voters excited to go out and vote for him. The supposedly unelectable Jeremy Corbyn got more votes in 2017 and even 2019.

[@paulcarter4945]

@@bobi6191 1 in 5 eligible voters through our outdated electoral system, where every vote doesn't count...- gave them a disgusting majority to destroy achievement and make a success of your life, built off their politics of envy.

[@Yui-ip7cd]

Never trust Braverman and Rishi Sunak. Both of the is putting up a show that they are against each other. Braverman was sack by Truss and Sunak place her as his right hand man. Trusting them is like digging your own grave.

[@hypercomms2001]

“State educated…” the UK is still so hung up by class even now …

[@mup_pet]

Of course it's important. Only 7% of people attend private school. Having so many of them in the media and in politics *should* be alarming to anyone who wishes to see a fair, equal and meritocratic society.

[@danthsmith]

Well the Etonians etc have had it for the last 14 years and made a dogs breakfast with their trickle down economics, culture wars, corruption and incompetence. I'm pleased to see people who live in the same world as me and my family running things

[@yipzoe3865]

​​@@mup_pet every countries have private schools, Hongkong has private schools too. Wealthy people send their kids to private schools in Hong Kong, or boarding schools oversea, even you ban all the private schools in UK, wealthy people can still send their kids to boarding schools oversea

[@user-nl4cn1ew4w]

That's their point, you've got the wealthy controlling media influence. ​@@yipzoe3865

[@adude9882]

Make no mistake, it does unsettle them. Imagine going to an elite institution away from your parents aged 8. You see normal people on the street. You know they are not in your group. The idea is that you are above them.

[@clivewalker5465]

Asian and a Black vying to run the Tories ... Never thought I would live long enough to see this .

[@AnnaSokyra]

Whats why Tory is finished, too many wrong people with wrong mindset, travesty basically

[@paulinnanjing]

Explain...

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

They've lost the plot. Never go 100% diverse.

[@TendaiMatambanadzo]

​@paulinnanjing it's inexplicable

[@joyepete7477]

Let me guess u are a reform voter

[@Anthony-xd6ly]

Are they both living up to their Surnames? BRAVE-man , BAD-enoch Ha ha

[@unmemorableusername6582]

Their husbands surnames 🤣

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

Are they both married to Jews?

[@djh29971]

Every Conservative MP that says they went a 'Broad Church' as long as it doesn't include anyone from the Right. If so, then what is the point of The Conservative Party?

[@sierra5360]

Far right isn’t conservative though, they’re extremist which is the polar opposite to conservative thought….

[@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733]

They failed to conserve the people. They have changed us beyond all recognition. Just look at the england football team for a start. Its more than just politics.

[@tigger4000]

They still haven't learned their lesson.

[@TheShrooom]

@user-ze7vb5cx3yYou're using the American definition of what a conservative is

[@TheShrooom]

@user-ze7vb5cx3y Am I wrong

[@user-pp7yv7qu9f]

Braverman just come to Reform the tories are Finished lol

[@motelr]

braverman will stay with the tory meal ticket,,,,she is a fair weather politition t

[@maccagrabme]

I dont see the point in their party, if they arent going to get back to being a right wing party then there is absolutely no point to them, might as well vote Labour or Lib Dem. Its REFORM only for me and any genuine vetted Conservative should move to REFORM but WEF lovers need not apply.

[@zazhou]

​@@motelryes, she seems where her butter will be spread best.

[@KaeMaiden]

​@@maccagrabmeAsking an Asian to join a rebranded National Front party😂😂😂

[@jadeyc1793]

Reform: the rejected Tories who were too scared to join UKIP.

[@Mitjitsu]

"One thing we can be certain of. Is that the new House of Commons is diverse. In terms of race, gender and sexuality" - Really surprised to hear that from a sociologist. She really put a lot of thought into that.

[@alanmorrison8917]

Yet no one there to fight for the veterans. Yet it was them who sent them to war

[@jim-es8qk]

No one will vote for either of these two. It will be the end of the conservative party.

[@AntoinetteHewer-xe3oh]

Farage will not bow down to Tories never in a blue moon 🌑

[@jeannemillsom9300]

@Antoinette-Hewer-xe3oh Why would he want to, he is a far better politician than any Tory.

[@ForestFan74]

@@jeannemillsom9300 HIs wish has always to be leader of the Tory Party. Maybe not now but some time in the future I think he will for sure be leader.

[@nowgrownup]

​@@ForestFan74 load of nonsense making it up as you go along 😂

[@Jonnyonthespot123]

Farage will do what Farage always does which is what is best for Farage.

[@denniskrust2137]

Reform is the new British Union Party and Farage is its Mosley.

[@MrGavinBoyd]

Two more muppets.

[@mauricefaulkner455]

Diverse, shall be the downfall of the masses

[@FredScuttle456]

Will the last white heterosexual male please switch off the lights as he leaves the Conservative party.

[@FHIPrincePeter]

Both Badenoch and Braverman are very Good Tories. This is not about colour nor gender but ability and integrity and both pass that threshold.

[@AzguardMike]

think that was Borris and he left years ago.

[@jim-es8qk]

​@FHIPrincePeter They are both awful. And they are one of the reason people are voting for Reform

[@jim-es8qk]

​@@FHIPrincePeterThey are both awful. And they are one of the reason people are voting for Reform

[@StevenJackson-re6qm]

@@FHIPrincePeterability and integrity? Really? Wow.

[@problemsolverthinktank859]

Which stage of denial is times radio conservative broadcast in? 😂 The public are not listening to the misinformation and right wing bias anymore.

[@andrealee6159]

Why is sturgeon still there

[@George57]

People are sick to death of the extreme ideologies in all parties . The problem is what’s been missing from our politics for generations is . A social conscience and a sense of doing things for the greater good . Putting people and country before o party

[@damianleah6744]

Cats fighting in a sack 😂

[@MarkWilliams-rd5jf]

Suella get off that sunken wreck and come n join the Reform you are very welcome

[@orcharddweller1109]

The tories have not always been liberal.

[@annepoitrineau5650]

Interesting to know what the other side is thinking, but after 14 years of tories and 10 min of this, I have enough.

[@vincentvangogh8092]

While the times is telling us that the tories dont know what they are, could the Times tell us what they are too ?

[@Walksfar64]

Suella, come on over to Reform the party of the future. Britain first. above everything. Tories are old had their finished

[@paulinnanjing]

Oh, the irony.

[@willc1294]

British above all others!

[@sierra5360]

Had their finished what?

[@randyschwaggins]

Yes...5 seats...Next stop - Government!!! 😂😂😂

[@rosiegiesler4705]

@@randyschwagginsI love this comment so much. It’s all yes come 2029 well be the opposition what with there 5 seats 😂😂

[@Dude-etiquette]

I can’t think of two worst candidates (actually Liz Truss)

[@AzguardMike]

Fishi Rishi, Borris Johnson, Lord David Cammeron

[@jim-es8qk]

​@@AzguardMikeBoris and Cammeron could win elections!!

[@sierra5360]

@@AzguardMikehe’s changed his name to Lord David Hameron

[@Dude-etiquette]

@@AzguardMike I'll give you Boris, those four and Mogg guy

[@friedaelizabethchorlton8654]

I wouldn't give either rhe time of day.If she joins Reform then the party will die.

[@paulinnanjing]

Bring that on. Farage can't live in a party with 5 MPs, it's too big for him.

[@knockshinnoch1950]

levelling up was just another ridiculous meaningless slogan. Cruella has lost the plot and is destined to join Farage and Reform.

[@johnh1872]

If the wets stay in charge I'll stay with Reform.

[@MrChillidee]

Blacks for REFORM UK 🇬🇧....we got ya back...

[@robinstevenson6690]

Rather than soul-searching and rebuilding, the Tories are only making things worse since the election. I'm beginning to think that they could drop into 3rd place in 2029.

[@Yutappy99]

A win for either of these idiots is a loss for the Conservative Party. Penny Mordaunt was the only adult in the room and she's gone now so... Well, the Conservatives deserve what they get.

[@stevesiish2346]

The CONservatives aren't one party. They are a collection of small factions who band together to hoover up the votes on the right... In the Conservatives there are those who are reformers and Brexiteers. Those who want high taxes and those who want low taxes, those who want big State those who want small State. Those who believe in small and medium businesses and entrepreneurs verses those who believe in global businesses. Those who believe in open borders and no immigration policy v Those who believe sovereignty and borders... that's why nothing that CONservatives say, ever gets done. They're are a collection of small factions... Now there is a real center right party REFORM... The REFORMATION has begun

[@mrstephenmeadify]

Giles Coren is a stain on journalism

[@robertnewton6454]

I am making the dubious assumption That there may be some sensible people left in the Parliamentary Conservative party Badenoch or braverman Surely some form of electoral sanity will prevail

[@kevinbanks2795]

Open boarders stamer

[@paulinnanjing]

Explain ...

[@pj1471]

Let’s hope we have hard working and lucky rather than self absorbed and incompetent for years to come. It must be sad being stuck as a Conservative voter with no party sharing your values.

[@mohammedazad7055]

I’m feeling shame and shaky, none of you are capable of becoming a party leader but the outsider. Shame on your education system.

[@ykrgfk]

Odd that nobody mentions the aftermath of the Tories catastrophic defeat in 1997. Odd because their internal squabbling is almost a carbon copy of the circumstances leading up to that election. I suggest the aftermath this time is also going to be pretty much the same - a record-breaking (hopefully permanent) absence from power and a ludicrous bad-tempered thrashing about trying to find a leader to last for more than 5 minutes.

[@lindasapiecha2515]

Keir Starmmer is a very intelligent man

[@ML-xh1go]

Badenoch if she gets to be leader we will not return to the Tory party and will stay with the Reform Party,

[@mikekaraoke]

That makes no sense, as Kemi is with the Tories and not Reform!

[@brendasg155]

@@mikekaraoke I think he means voting wise. Reform would lose votes to the tories if Kemi or Suella became leader.. I'd never vote tory again but some people would

[@markguttridge4972]

Olukemi olufunte is not for me i will stick with nigel thanks

[@flatspot2050]

This is the end of the road for the the Tories, they have one chance now and it's Suella. I will only return if she is leading the party! She's speaks complete sense and is a breath of fresh air!

[@active85858585]

What a deluded pair of "commentators". Especially that Canadian 6th form debater with the standard banal "conservative voices are so suppressed and victimised" bilge.

[@charlesmarshall1309]

If you’ve been in the UK for 16 years you really ought to have more idea what you’re talking about, even if you’re Canadian. Grotesquely superficial.

[@petergrugel9966]

Wow, Conservatism and liberalism are very different, who is the illiterate here, the cabinet is 4th division any cabinet with Angela Rayner and David Lammy shows how wafer thin the intellect in that cabinet is, we are in big big trouble.

[@stopthink7202]

Is it me or is Suella Braverman the first ever attractive British Politician?

[@jim-es8qk]

Its you!!

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

There have been plenty. Penny Mordaunt. Priti Patel. What I would say of Braverman is she is always very well dressed. She has a great sense of style and she is clearly prepared to spend plenty of money on her wardrobe.

[@randyschwaggins]

You need to check out Angela Rayner's fun bags!

[@theRab1609]

Did the presenter really say that everyone would want to meet the prime minister, proper presstitute there.

[@goharikjones7387]

Suella might join Reform Party after going for premiership and losing it !! Reform is the only conservative party. Torys are so divided and gone too libirial for their own good Torys are broken and took the country with them sadly .

[@alfching2499]

We look like a Republic each day

[@Memini_me_1984]

Diversity is going to take us a long long way- pay for the MOD budget, prop up the NHS, pay the doctors & nurses, yep, Diversity will do it all.

[@Chris-xv2gm]

Starmer doesn't have a fxcking clue.

[@maccagrabme]

Their voters will soon find this out.

[@sierra5360]

Yes Boris knew what to do clearly

[@randyschwaggins]

He's not clever like Liz Truss 😂😂😂

[@rnanerd6505]

I think you need to come to terms with reality, namely that the tories, especially after the shambles of the last 8 years will be in opposition for at least a decade.

[@jamiec4000]

Starmer is lucky because he has a NATO summit in his first week? Sunak had a huge D-Day memorial during the election campaign, a great opportunity to look like a statesman, and somehow turned it into a disaster.

[@SilverHalsen]

The woman spoke absolute nonsense. The tories wouldn't stop going on about their diversity (at the top only anyway). Jesus wept.

[@salsylexhagen7423]

Bye Tories. Hello Reform.

[@pennyyoung2291]

Why don’t you people just admit that Labour have made an impressive start!!

[@hareshgill8994]

Yall forgot abt priti Patel tories like her ruthlessness

[@vincentvangogh8092]

but voters see her as thick

[@mikeb7379]

Who is the twit wittering on as a guest pundit? The Times really has hit new lows of journalism. In fact you can't even call this journalism.

[@RhythmGuitarMan]

Tory newspaper Labour government? Let’s ask an arrogant toff and a Canadian what they think of the government.

[@TheChancellor212]

Yes, it would be nice if assembling a diverse cabinet or diverse Parliament wasn’t itself a success. But when so many conservatives want to roll back rights or make people existing illegal, representation matters.

[@Spamfish]

Imagine quoting Titania McGrath unironically. State of it.

[@glenmarson924]

Absolutely incredulous what is going on within the conservative political party. Tactical move on behalf of sunak running off to the governor to seek approval to remove himself and at the same time giving it to those who fought against him. They’ve all lost their posts well the majority of them. Equally in that equation the call for war and the Damocles Sword has been passed to Starmer… it’s all so crass really 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@user-zc4yd9ss7h]

These presenters really believe their party - the Tories - are still important. Hilarious. As for Braverman, she will soon join Reform.

[@chocolatesugar4434]

Love Labour ❤🙌🏾

[@SuperHeadman1]

Does Starmer have a mandate when 80% didn't vote for him.

[@Jonnyonthespot123]

Yes that's how our political system works

[@nigelbennett5446]

Yes 👍

[@seriousoldman8997]

Lib Dems and Greens didn't vote for the right. Don't kid yourself.

[@wanderingfool6312]

The more parties the less each party gets, but to be clear, then won the popular vote too.

[@paulinnanjing]

80% you say. What percentage didn't vote for brexit? Thatcher? Blair?

[@joehodgson2815]

Braverman would have deported her own parents!

[@user-hh8hv6on1o]

Corens father would be ashamed of him.Rude ,self satisfied ,pillock. Father and sister had and have class and were fun.

[@jimthorne304]

I keep seeing items on this channel that look interesting, only to find that they are very superficial if not trivial.

[@Tom_murray89]

Also if braverman wins the Tory leadership contest it will further increase the damage for them.

[@maccagrabme]

They cant win being left wing, they need right wing policies and leadership. Their most successful leader was Thatcher, firmly right wing.

[@Exileonbackroad]

So happy for Brits but why oh why can't this happen in the US to the Republican Party?

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

Because the Dems have Biden

[@GPR111]

Here they go again..... 🙄 So glad they are now irrelevant on the big stage.

[@GerryT.]

Tough choice, a hate preacher v the most arrogant ignorant MP of all time.

[@jonathanperry4189]

Why is the life long food critic giving political commentary?!? Oh yes, old school tie

[@sierra5360]

He’s insufferable

[@oriel229]

Braverman, stop ****ing about. Join REFORM.

[@user-bc6cs1fj6y]

They’ve failed the people. They need new people.

[@EdgarKlong]

Suellas wasting her time hangin around those Eton nobheads

[@OutRAjious]

The Cabinet is Diverse in terms of Intelligence … and competence

[@jim-es8qk]

The issue is discipline. Instead of sticking together when things got tough, they ruthlessly replaced a leader who was elected by the membership and electorate with someone nobody wanted. How can you hold together a country when you can't even hold together your party? So why would anyone trust them again?

[@Kimmy234L]

The Clash of Two Tokens

[@kevinharker1840]

You never see David Whamy and Diane abotttt together..... hmmm.....

[@martinwilliams9866]

Is "tough" effective, or is it just appearances that doesn't solve anything?

[@TheLucanicLord]

Has Giles Coren always been a berk?

[@daquidi]

what she talking about? starmers cabinet isn t diverse at all.

[@randyschwaggins]

12 women...2 ethnic minority...majority state educated. How much more diversity were you after?

[@TrevorBarre]

Why ask this poncey food critic what he thinks||?

[@cleolector710]

Both tories both conservatives Labour is conservatives He said council houses for the poor That's what he said

[@sharonseed]

What about when Keir Starmer took his Poppy off??? Keir Starmer showed such disrespect to our brave courageous veterans who lost their lives and limbs, including mine and my husbands grandfather's,for our once great country!

[@SFRZRD]

Tbh love I’d spend less time worrying about that and a bit more time worrying about looking like a makeup caked slapper at your age

[@sharonseed]

@XYZ-td6sn I'd like to see a photo of you, I bet you are no oil painting! Besides, I don't wear makeu, never have never will, that is as natural as you get, so up yours!

[@randyschwaggins]

Ooh...he took his poppy off did he???? Ooooooh. That's not good is it?

[@sharonseed]

@randyschwaggins Grow up dearie. It was very disrespectful to our brave, courageous veteran's obviously, you don't respect them either. Shocking!

[@simongardner3766]

There is socially liberal and economically liberal. Labour was always high tax's and big spending. Traditionally Tory's were low tax's, fiscal responsibility, and small state. The interesting difference between the right wing of the party and the one nation group is one is socially liberal and the other is socially conservative. One nation think internationally and would be appalled about leaving the ECHR, worrying about the damage to our reputation. The right understand that to have any chance of controlling immigration we must leave and that putting the interests of Britain before international opinion is the priority.

[@octopusonmyback]

This is one of the trashiest youtube newspaper channels; to think the Times was once a newspaper of record...

[@nowgrownup]

Who is the private school educated P....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Talking a load of tripe 😂😂😂😂

[@sierra5360]

He’s an online bully who cheers at people’s death, it’s puzzling how he still has a job, he must have dirt on some editor

[@scowy1978]

Does anybody like Giles Coren?

[@wanderingfool6312]

Labours hands aren’t tied, what are you talking about, the tories are in free fall?

[@markwalsh8700]

Gets even worse both of them for leader..lol