The Tourney Weapon Class Tierlist (Elden Ring)

[@enda1the1lion]

Minor Correction, Colosal Swords do not have flaming strike. Does not meaningfuly Change its position.

[@Heartbreakerjaker95]

Maybe yours don’t, mine do

[@enda1the1lion]

blessed my micheal zaki

[@sovietspaceship]

parmesan s tier i think

[@thegreatazal5021]

Seen you in arena had no idea you made videos, nice list gg.

[@enda1the1lion]

Psn or pc? i recognise your name

[@thegreatazal5021]

@@enda1the1lion PSN I was probably using Axe of Godfrey or my very weird moonveil build.

[@enda1the1lion]

Nicu

[@beckerscantbechoosers6768]

Really enlightening list. As someone who dors my best to get better but doesn't really know the meta, I had a quick little laugh because of Greataxe placement: I faced a guy a while back who sent hatemail. I told him that I beat him with a weak setup without getting hit by him so I have nothing to prove. He proceeded to complain that he was using a dagger and daggers are bad, while the 2H Greataxe I used was OP (and thus justification for why he and his buddy tried to gank me next time I invaded) I knew he had to be way off, but this list was validating haha.

[@enda1the1lion]

Hyperarmour is very annoying in its current iteration but annoying doesn't mean its good. People sometimes conflate the two

[@beckerscantbechoosers6768]

@@enda1the1lion Decent players using Hyper Armor terrify me. I irrationally get worse because it's a big weakness of mine. That said, this guy didn't even hit me once, so my Hyper Armor was practically pointless. He just spent the whole fight rolling away and then complained at how OP Greataxes are x.x Like great, you got roll caught 4 times in a row. I'm surprised he didn't mention the famous "roll catch exploit," haha

[@bananacorn4375]

You did Balistas, but What about shields?

[@enda1the1lion]

If im honest i dont know where they fit

[@MrSuvvri]

D

[@VonSchnitz]

Solid 1v1 tier list 💯

[@enda1the1lion]

Thanks duder

[@Rust_BKT]

vykes not #1 is such a lie, unsub for misinformation

[@enda1the1lion]

i will see you in court

[@Lilacropolis]

Probably not relevant but have you ever seen someone do well with colossal weapon off dagger?

[@enda1the1lion]

yeah but offdagger ends up doing 90% of the damage.

[@Lilacropolis]

@@enda1the1lion thanks for the response really enjoy your content

[@adsotarantino638]

@enda1the1lion ty for the words for hts mains, love from ignoto

[@Rain1]

All right I got the dumbest question for you from the noob of all time, namely me: What is backswing? Is it like dead angles? You were mentioning it when talking about the shamshir

[@enda1the1lion]

The second swing that can roll catch if angled/ your positioning is correct. i should have been more clear. there are no dumb questions mate

[@ominours]

I love tierlist i love tierlists!!!!

[@szoopzoop]

very nice whatsthe word... the way you talk about stuff! I liker it!! I don't know what the voice is!! I subscribe!!

[@enda1the1lion]

cheers mate, apriciate it

[@SneakySeriyuu]

Katanas in A tier and glazed more than any other setup, I'll take it. Us pskats players are 2000 IQ

[@enda1the1lion]

Has good use of the recovery cancels. Pretty much every move is Usable, has great Ash's. Its a cool setup

[@FlawlessIX]

Hi Enda, what infusion would be best for a flaming strike cleanrot sword?

[@FlawlessIX]

Guessing its out of Heavy or Fire?

[@enda1the1lion]

@@FlawlessIX heavey as str boosts fire dmg and you get counter hit

[@FlawlessIX]

@@enda1the1lion thanks for the quick reply

[@enda1the1lion]

@@FlawlessIX you can also go flame art on a faith build but you Lose Out on counter hit

[@ValentinParkourGaming]

Super insightful and thank you , but too long man , you could be more precise on your explanation with a script.

[@enda1the1lion]

I do understand, trying to keep the format as more a Conversational piece rather than being a presentation especialy given i hope to have some setup mains involved in these moving forward. I do apriciate the feedback though

[@Rain1]

​@@enda1the1lionas someone new to PVP I enjoyed the long form content because it allowed me to understand why something was the rank it was. I'm sure that a veteran player would already know so I guess I can partially see his point of view but for my point of view it was really helpful to know why

[@enda1the1lion]

@@Rain1 honestly a lot of this is modeled off of the content i watch for other games, legit making the stuff i want to watch lol

[@Heartbreakerjaker95]

How is claymore not S tier? Are greatswords a thing of the past?

[@enda1the1lion]

Not everyone gets hit by piercing fang kgs jake :3

[@ondosan]

good list for 1.10

[@enda1the1lion]

No U

[@shapshane8241]

21:50 max cast speed slicer and swift glintstone shard?

[@enda1the1lion]

No poise or hp damage to justify taking it anymore unfortunatly. If the arenas were the size of MAG or the vanila arena then it might make it worth taking but smaller arenas makes kite builds a lot harder

[@OceanicManiac]

Where would you put non-powerstanced 1h ss?

[@enda1the1lion]

Quite low Has no damage. Still better than most things.in the game on account of having the cr1

[@aku3916]

Tbh i would say colossal swords could go a tier higher, but otherwise i'd say it's a good list

[@enda1the1lion]

the reason its that low is that fundamentaly it cant hit somone who doesnt want to be hit. there are better offhand options so like offdag offberd ect. Futzilla has been doing good work with it along with some of the Spinners on PSN but i feel they would win with other setups just as well if not easier.

[@aku3916]

@@enda1the1lion I mean yeah ofcourse there are better setups, but i would say also that you'd have an a lot easier time on colossals compared to for example greataxes

[@xensare7689]

Question where do pscs stand ?

[@enda1the1lion]

Somwhere in b, very telegraphed little to no range doesnt have poise break on the first part of its running ps attack

[@Blue-zf5uu]

Yeah power stanced curved swords are kinda slow on the swings

[@lapss9342]

Nice one bestieee

[@enda1the1lion]

No u bestieeee

[@Dosntmattrshu]

me when i tierlist:

[@enda1the1lion]

did you like the part where i said its tierlist time, and then i tierlisted all over the place

[@Dosntmattrshu]

@@enda1the1lion me when yes:

[@rrraida]

Nah, I'd Win

[@mudkippl]

bad list

[@enda1the1lion]

omg so trueee bestie

[@mudkippl]

@@enda1the1lion even though i posted this 2 minutes after the vid released i predicted that you wouldnt put whip in S tier, therefore bad list.

[@sauce987654321]

Funny how B tier and below is considered to be trash, but everything above it are very specific weapons that must be used in very specific ways with particular ashes to be in that tier. The weapons just suck in this game, imo. Even in single player. You only ever just use one attack, two at the most, or crutch on an ash. I hope the all weapon classes get a total rework. Not a single weapon class has good design, imo.

[@enda1the1lion]

i would kinda say the oposite in certain respects regarding movesets, S and A tier kinda have a lot more options than the other setups. The lower tiers might have like one option thats worth doing in their entire moveset or be so niche in their uses that they are not considered very good. You are kinda spot on about movesets in general being underwhelming though

[@sauce987654321]

@@enda1the1lion Not so much the movesets in the higher tiers, even though I don’t like any of them tbh. What I mean is how the weapons are used and what weapons are used. For example: are curved swords good? No, Shamshir is good. Are katanas good? No, the Nagakiba is good. Are halberds good? Only if you have an off weapon, so two handing them or using a shield is out of the question. Are Twinblades good? Somewhat, but only really good if you use spinning slash on them. This is my issue with most of the top setups. Most of them crutch on a single weapon, style, and weapon art. There’s little variety even at the top.