The Toxic Disaster You Didn’t Learn About in History Class

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Into the Shadows

Into the Shadows

Күн бұрын

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@saydvoncripps
@saydvoncripps Ай бұрын
My grandmother couldn't go out as she had a "weak chest" as they called asthma then. She stayed indoors...with a coal fire burning. And they burned more coal in braziers in the streets. They had no idea.
@oakstrong1
@oakstrong1 Ай бұрын
WORSE: WE DO KNOW the consequences but still carry on allowing to pollution to continue. Big companies have a team of lawyers fighting to delay the installation or upgrade of filters and they are still dumping toxic waste to our rivers and sea: locals are warned not to go swimming when the toxity is too high for even a short exposure - not because it is always toxic.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Ай бұрын
@@oakstrong1 A lot then was due to Coal being Nationalised with Coal output having minimum totals. Unfortunately the smoke regulations that came in didnt note that Efficient burning of coal reduced output of unwanted products as more was combusted, unfortunately most fluing (inc of Nationalised Electricity) was inefficient and boilers just stoked rather than managed. Even Diesel fumes were.are not clear ones which helped a bit as trains switched from coal burning. From memory Bankside power station in London only burned oil, which was interesting
@oakstrong1
@oakstrong1 23 күн бұрын
@@highpath4776 Thanks for the info. The problem is still the same though. We burn fossil fuels rather than invest money on cleaner alternatives. Energy companies will start only become serious about developing more efficient systems once most of us switch and the next step after that is to develop less polluting manufacturing processes. Demand drives innovation.
@JohnMassey-q5l
@JohnMassey-q5l Ай бұрын
I live in Lima city Peru, here we get atmospheric inversion from May till October. The number of people who suffer from asthma is mind boggling. In Santiago de Chile, too. The police patrol the streets with infrared visors on the lookout for warm chimney stacks. The police have a standing warrant to enter houses that have warm chimney stacks. An excellent video Simon and team!!!
@etuanno
@etuanno Ай бұрын
And shut down the fires, that are heating the homes? Or do they measure the smoke to see if it's up to regulation?
@liquidocelot5976
@liquidocelot5976 Ай бұрын
Seems an appropriate day to release this given the UK turned off it’s last coal powered power station today
@Bigbenisntaclock
@Bigbenisntaclock Ай бұрын
Came here to say this! How cool is that?
@cboyles84
@cboyles84 Ай бұрын
Really? Well good on them 😁👏
@CashelOConnolly
@CashelOConnolly Ай бұрын
I just hope the British can now afford their heating bills. Have you noticed green warriors tend to be those who can afford the ‘Green Revolution’
@qwertzuiop1230
@qwertzuiop1230 Ай бұрын
Awesome! Congratulations from Germany
@Kaltagstar96
@Kaltagstar96 Ай бұрын
Which is insane because the thing that's meant to be replacing it isn't actually finished yet, you'd think they could just wait until the replacement to the coal powered power station is finished before they close down the one that they just shut down?
@eli-bt4he
@eli-bt4he Ай бұрын
Slight correction: An inversion layer is by no means a rare occurrence, and is likely the primary cause of the frequent thick fogs in London. It is extremely common on cold winter mornings. What may have been rare in this case was the strength and duration of the inversion layer.
@feiryfella
@feiryfella Ай бұрын
Correct. London is in a basin and is one reason why air quality is so bad. It happens where I live to a lesser degree. I have athsma so its terrifying!
@russlehman2070
@russlehman2070 Ай бұрын
I lived in Denver, Colorado, USA for most of my life. Denver is frequently subject to temperature inversions, primarily during fall and winter. When coming into Denver from the mountains with a temperature inversion present, it is strikingly visible. There will be a layer of brown air close to the ground, with a sharp demarcation between the brown layer and the clearer air above it.
@wolfmantroy6601
@wolfmantroy6601 Ай бұрын
Yep. Fairbanks AK has them often in the winter.
@teresabenson3385
@teresabenson3385 Ай бұрын
Missoula Montana too.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Ай бұрын
@@feiryfella Also get it out in Dagenham Freezing Fog due to the marshes and the relative temp of the Thames which never quite warms up in winter but is warmer than the freezing air temps. If it stays around depends on the winds, so high pressure for a long time holds the fog in, we have not had so much recent years - maybe the use of glass in the tall london city buildings rather than brick changing the heat pattern and retention of the city ?
@jakeme9911
@jakeme9911 Ай бұрын
Should do a similar video on the rampant cancer caused by 3M dumping waste in Oakdale Minnesota
@TotoGeenen
@TotoGeenen Ай бұрын
And Antwerpen!
@Strider91
@Strider91 24 күн бұрын
As someone who live in Woodbury, I'd love to see that!
@Lucy-gu8uk
@Lucy-gu8uk Ай бұрын
I was living in London during this fog. I was two years old and my sister was born on Dec 6. Of course I don't remember it, but my mother used to talk about it.
@foo219
@foo219 Ай бұрын
I'm glad you survived! It's a vulnerable age to encounter something like this. Clearly your lungs were better than mine. I spent my first three years in hospital.
@freyaw89
@freyaw89 Ай бұрын
My mum was born in london 2 weeks before the smog, I had no idea how deadly it was!
@boristhedespot3473
@boristhedespot3473 Ай бұрын
I lived in london for 15 years and at times you could taste the pollution on the air
@toastercatx
@toastercatx Ай бұрын
I stayed with a friend in Camden for a week 15 years ago and was horrified that my boogers had turned pitch black
@nlwilson4892
@nlwilson4892 Ай бұрын
Only some times? I lived there 3 months and you could taste it all the time and I was mostly on the outskirts. I think you have just got used to it and only notice when it is particularly bad.
@stefanpredl6849
@stefanpredl6849 Ай бұрын
wonder if i should visit china for tasting 50% BatteryElectricVehicle adoption air and some of the strictest air pollution laws. Cant belive it.
@LordMarcus
@LordMarcus Ай бұрын
Imagine surviving the entire war only to choke to death under those black skies.
@SoreSurvival
@SoreSurvival Ай бұрын
Imagine surviving both wars just to get smoked by fog
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Ай бұрын
@@SoreSurvival Most in WW1 men had been gassed so the flu after WW1 and the smog in the 1950s finished them off
@associatedblacksheepandmisfits
@associatedblacksheepandmisfits Ай бұрын
Last smog I saw was in Sussex early 60's , they still used the old air-raid sirens on pea soup fogs then.
@ellenmendoza7246
@ellenmendoza7246 Ай бұрын
My parents talk about this subject....when I was grown up... the River Thames stank and the buildings were black... when they started cleaning up the buildings.. it was a real shock I didn't realize the buildings weren't black
@solomon7722
@solomon7722 Ай бұрын
As we get boil water advisories in Georgia because of a burning chlorine plant.
@kitefan1
@kitefan1 Ай бұрын
Missed that news about the explosion.. Usually we only boil water because of e-coli. This no longer happens because the chlorinate our section of the town water. Hope you are well.
@BaconBastard9000
@BaconBastard9000 Ай бұрын
I only got an advisory so reduce exposure to the outside, especially if you have health issues.
@sjenny5891
@sjenny5891 Ай бұрын
Because of the hurricane?
@Dommifax
@Dommifax Ай бұрын
i heard there was a shelter-in-place advisory regarding the chlorine though there's also a boil water advisory because of a pumping station failure (iirc) in atlanta - are the two related?
@etuanno
@etuanno Ай бұрын
Why boil the water? The chlorine in it isn't that bad, the chlorinated organic compounds however, oh boy! But those don't go away just because you boil the water. I read an article about it and I hope they shut down that factory for good. 3 serious incidents in 20 years is way too much!
@Naftoor
@Naftoor Ай бұрын
“Mostly preexisting conditions” Man they’ve really been pulling that card to minimize tragedies for generations huh?
@annec781
@annec781 Ай бұрын
Here in northern Nevada, when we get a temperature inversion, we get a freezing fog, locally called "pogonip." The Native American tribes used to go to a higher elevation to protect their elders and children. During that time, they ban use of wood burning stoves unless they are used as a primary source of heat.
@DesertFernweh
@DesertFernweh 22 күн бұрын
I have seen it when driving up to see my dad in Reno, he had to leave that area because the air was so bad .
@annec781
@annec781 22 күн бұрын
@@DesertFernweh Lake Tahoe is warmer and clear when we get those inversions.
@piparalegal2019
@piparalegal2019 Ай бұрын
I've come across references to the London fogs in Dickens novels. I've heard The Great Fog of London referenced in videos before. This was fascinatingly horrific.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Ай бұрын
yes but that predated the main coal burning other than domestic coal (which was not insubstantial)
@IAmAlgolei
@IAmAlgolei Ай бұрын
I learned about this in history class in the 70s, but there wasn't much information and it was easily forgotten. Pretty much just a mention that stirred a few questions that the teacher couldn't answer, other than to say "pollution is bad" and "we never know what unexpected consequences there will be unless we thoroughly investigate things before we do them".
@leonb2637
@leonb2637 Ай бұрын
I have seen and heard documentaries of this London Great Smog of 1952 a number of times over the last several decades. This was a good summary of that terrible event. It was indeed a turning point for the environment even to today with bans of high pollution cars in the London area and other cities in the UK and in the world (LEZ's). For many the use of tobacco, exposures to toxic chemicals from workplaces, from service in WW I & II likely added to their doomed fates.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Ай бұрын
That makes no sense. The exhaust of cars is cleaner than ambient air in London and LA.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Ай бұрын
@@gregorymalchuk272 might be now with CATs , wasnt then, but we didnt have many cars, just 7000 diesel buses every day
@foo219
@foo219 Ай бұрын
The lesson learned was apparently to pour more money into denying pollution is bad, because it doesn't seem like much ELSE is being done.
@eloisepharmacist
@eloisepharmacist Ай бұрын
They covered this in an episode of The Crown - it made me cry 😢
@NobbingNobby
@NobbingNobby Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Get a grip.
@wolfmantroy6601
@wolfmantroy6601 Ай бұрын
If true that is concerning. Perhaps have the dosage on your med.s evaluated.
@aidencox790
@aidencox790 Ай бұрын
@@wolfmantroy6601 That's a needless nasty comment. Have you ever heard the words EMOTIONS AND EMPATHY. Some people visualise as if it is real and happening and put themselves into the shoes of those whose lives were either ruined or taken. Maybe you might consider that you are not the same as other people - in a truly negative fashion.
@wolfmantroy6601
@wolfmantroy6601 Ай бұрын
@@aidencox790 I have zero empathy for you overly emotional women. You just proved my point with your silly comment. Now keep that hole under your nose closed until your opinion is asked for.
@leathernluv
@leathernluv Ай бұрын
Boise Idaho suffers from regular inversions. I liver there for about 10 years, and I remember a few times the public was told not to go to work or travel at all for the time. Sometimes a week or more.
@Shell4694
@Shell4694 Ай бұрын
I remember how hard it was breathing during black summer in Australia. It went on day after day, it was like trying to breathe through water. I felt so sorry for those with asthma and people that couldn't get away from the smoke 😔
@thesausagecontinuim1971
@thesausagecontinuim1971 Ай бұрын
nothing ever changes until people die, our societies moral compass is a bit askew, money first, people second?!?!?
@mariedinkler8542
@mariedinkler8542 Ай бұрын
More like people last😢
@paulc6766
@paulc6766 Ай бұрын
So far only 6 have supported this. It should be MILLIONS. And our politicians are not able to be made accountable.
@jefferyhanderson7849
@jefferyhanderson7849 Ай бұрын
Because people are lazy, greedy, and don't care about things that don't concern them. Even when mass deaths happen, people are still lazy and greedy to make any significant changes before something else happens, and most people move on to that. Like how people forgot about Myanmar after Ukraine happened. And how people are starting to forget Ukraine after Palestinian happened.
@jacobgleisner5630
@jacobgleisner5630 Ай бұрын
More convenience and stability. Those are the real killers of people. Probably close to money though
@damonwilks8799
@damonwilks8799 Ай бұрын
Lets think about this real fast .... Most times when something needs to be done it's too late because it was a true unknown. Other things not so much. So it's not always money first. Although that being said once some disasters happen they profit afterwards due to knowledge gained and healthy living becomes toxic. Continuous patients.
@DigitalLazarus
@DigitalLazarus Ай бұрын
Brilliant as always, Simon and utterly fascinating. Thanks to you and the team.
@lyndabignell9660
@lyndabignell9660 Ай бұрын
I remember the smogs around the industrial north in the 1960s. I remember being let out of school early and told to get home quickly. No buses running so had to walk. Had to feel our way around buildings to figure out where we were. Scarey stuff when you are in your early teens. Amazed that I've reached 75 but then my family emigrated to a cleaner country. NZ first and now living in beautiful Adelaide, South Australia.
@pooryorick831
@pooryorick831 Ай бұрын
Wow. I had no idea. I guess I've heard references to it, but I never understood how deadly it was. It's a warning we should all heed. 😳☮️🙏🏻🕊
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Ай бұрын
quite simply, until recently the British History curriculm was basically From Plato to NATO, hence Mid 50s and beyond not covered, and Modern History seemed to start in the 1970s.
@squirrellymcbutterballs3510
@squirrellymcbutterballs3510 Ай бұрын
Favorite fact : at the West Ham greyhound track, the smog was so bad that the guy operating the mechanical hare lure could not see the track, so the dogs actually beat the hare. They canceled the meet.
@ronsimpsonll9739
@ronsimpsonll9739 Ай бұрын
The human race is profoundly adept at closing the barn door long after the cows have come home and left again...
@geoffbarry9540
@geoffbarry9540 Ай бұрын
Yep, put me down for this one. Approaching my 6th birthday at the time (15 January 53), I have no personal recollection of the event. What I do remember is the years of chronic bronchitis I suffered from then until probably 1960 and the onset of puberty (although I also recall a recurrence as late as 1967). When I wrote about this in my autobiography in 2022 I could almost taste, smell and feel the bronchitic condition of my childhood lungs - especially the pain of trying to cough up the horrible phlegm generated in them. And, of course, there were many later though lesser instances of smogs before the clean air acts took hold. I remember cycling off to school in 1959 in a fog so thick that I rode into a car on the other side of the road before I could even see it clearly - at about three miles an hour!
@etuanno
@etuanno Ай бұрын
My grandmother was in London in the early 1960s as an exchange student from Austria and she said the smog was unbelievable. She was born in 1944, so it was roughly in 1960-1962.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Ай бұрын
What struck me about the UK was that the country was so poor that people were still heating ther hovels with the open grate burning of coal in individual rooms as late as the 1970s. We hadn't done that since probably the mid 1800s in the USA.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Ай бұрын
@@gregorymalchuk272 Wasnt really being poor, its how houses were built. open fires were quite efficient, a downstairs one would warm the upstairs, though indeed enclosed burners were probably better these were rarely marketted. Coal was relatively cheap to, compared to electricity. Warm Air district systems were unreliable. Our flats were built in 1960 and more still to the mid 60s had coal fires - cleaning, lighting of them was the wives job so no wonder they didnt go to work with all that to do. The flats also meant our coal heated someone elses flat.
@Flight_of_Icarus
@Flight_of_Icarus 22 күн бұрын
It's weirdly supernatural sounding. Kinda inspiring in a macabre way. A fog that creeps into a coastal city and kills all it touches. Sounds like something straight out of Lovecraft.
@Netherlands031
@Netherlands031 Ай бұрын
Some more focus on primary sources would be nice. Like, showing actual photos from 1952 london instead of random stock footage
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Ай бұрын
remarkably few decent photos , or film , that isnt licenced, or indeed much taken. The BBC wasnt really into showing it, neither the newsreels. I think it had been common , but less long lasting , in years past, so initially wasnt noteworthy
@invisi-bullexploration2374
@invisi-bullexploration2374 Ай бұрын
The worst traffic accident in US history is something I remember seeing on the news when I was a kid. I think it went down like this: This was in TN and temperatures had plummeted. A paper plant straddled a highway and was releasing a ton of vapor. This meant all three factors were about to combine into something incredibly unpleasant and unprecedented. The vapor *would* have just floated into the jetstream... If not for the pressure system holding it firmly down. So this giant, white wall floated onto a highway during the start of Christmas shopping season... The carnage was as I recall, severe. Something like 50 to 60 deaths as hundreds of vehicles rear ended each other.
@jooleebilly
@jooleebilly Ай бұрын
When I visited London in 1991, the world still had acid rain and an ozone hole so the statues were striped black and white. I think all cabs and buses had to use diesel fuel, as it was believed that since it didn't go into the upper atmosphere so it didn't increase the ozone hole.. All I know is that I got blackheads pretty quickly even after washing my face several times a day. Every time I blew my nose, there was gray and black stuff in it. I think it was the same in Edinborough, Dublin, and Belfast. Super happy to hear the UK gave up its last coal powered plant. Caveat: I haven't visited in 33 years, so I'm sure I'm forgetting some things, possibly a LOT of things.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Ай бұрын
Europe going all-in on passenger diesel automobiles was great for fuel economy but terrible for air pollution. Gasoline cars from the late 1970s and early 1980s in the USA were way cleaner.
@jamesmull8579
@jamesmull8579 Ай бұрын
The same thing happened in Donora, Pennsylvania four years earlier.
@sjenny5891
@sjenny5891 Ай бұрын
Didn't Simon do a video on that? Or was it Fascinating Horror?
@jamesmull8579
@jamesmull8579 Ай бұрын
@@sjenny5891 it's probable that someone has by now. It's a good topic for these types of videos.
@michaeljohnryan7801
@michaeljohnryan7801 Ай бұрын
Never knew of this case, shocking! Thanks for shedding light on it
@WhiteRoseYorkshire
@WhiteRoseYorkshire Ай бұрын
I learnt about this in history class. Mind you, I was in school in the 90s, and it seems like school doesn't teach anything these days.
@bremnersghost948
@bremnersghost948 Ай бұрын
Agree, My younger kids seem to have learned very little of what we did in 80s/90s, Youngest especially talks a different language lol
@paultidwell8799
@paultidwell8799 Ай бұрын
I love this Channel. Thank you for all you do.
@bulwinkle
@bulwinkle Ай бұрын
It wasn't just London. I remember pea-soupers in Leeds when I was a child. Your hand almost disappeared if you stretched out your arm. My mother and I felt our way home from school along fences and hedges.
@EmilyBieman
@EmilyBieman Күн бұрын
This video ought to be shown to kids in schools. I recall at no point in my schooling was it ever mentioned that breathing in ANY type of pollutant, whether it be smoke from a fire, sawdust, or chemicals - they all do harm to your lungs.
@timsimmons5190
@timsimmons5190 Ай бұрын
We definitely learned about this in history class here in south carolina
@kathyroux7386
@kathyroux7386 Ай бұрын
How have I never heard of this?
@gregorytaylor41
@gregorytaylor41 Ай бұрын
Another amazing episode! I can't imagine basically breathing sulfuric acid for days.
@wesrrowlands8309
@wesrrowlands8309 Ай бұрын
Here in Pennsylvania we had the same type of thing happen near Pittsburgh and it was around the same time too but I don't think it was anywhere as deadly as this.
@Titot182
@Titot182 Ай бұрын
The great smog of London - yes we learned about it all right! My year 7 geography teacher was a former pupil at my school in Harrow Weald. He recalled the Harrow and Wealdstone Train Crash in 1952 occurring at the same time. He said something along the lines of us kids being fortunate enough not to have experienced it... Well, until you end up in Jakarta for more than a few weeks!
@GaryJohnWalker1
@GaryJohnWalker1 Ай бұрын
Actually this was well known and taught for quiote a while - as a kid in the 60s and 70s I certainly learned about this. But it's seldom been mentioned for years, maybe as many people's view of those now distamnt days have grown rosier.
@schnetzelschwester
@schnetzelschwester Ай бұрын
I'm at the same age. As a little child I lived in a workers' settlement in the Ruhrgebiet between a foundry and a hydrochloric acid factory, my lungs are still impaired 60 years later. When my little sister almost died of air pollution we moved to a city near Netherland border where we could smell cow dung instead of coal fires.
@hotmess9640
@hotmess9640 Ай бұрын
@@schnetzelschwesteryeah you can’t get lung health back
@ndruark
@ndruark 3 күн бұрын
How many channels is Simon the host for?
@user-st8gb9bm6q
@user-st8gb9bm6q Ай бұрын
I live in Denver Colorado and for days we had the worst air quality on the planet.
@891Henry
@891Henry 24 күн бұрын
We had the same thing in Vancouver, Canada but it was from the forest wildfires last year.
@TheKalaxis
@TheKalaxis Ай бұрын
Smog is nasty stuff. My home town used to be so bad for that shit that locals are still nicknamed "Smoggies".
@jennifersoutherland631
@jennifersoutherland631 Ай бұрын
I had an uncle who was a baby during this, and he was left with lifelong lung damage and recurring pneumonia. He had to use oxygen from an early age. His family left soon after this, but the damage was done.
@carminia824
@carminia824 Ай бұрын
Temperature inversion is very common in Stuttgart, Germany. This has to do with the fact that the center of the city is in a bowl-shaped valley. No idea how they survived the era of wood and coal. But they did.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Ай бұрын
Check average age death stats, did older people move away ?
@hectorsmommy1717
@hectorsmommy1717 Ай бұрын
Next do a feature on the Donora Smog. Same situation but even more deadly. It happened in Donora, Pennsylvania in 1948 and killed 1 out of every 700 residents in a shorter time period, 4 days instead of the 5 days of the London Smog that killed 1 out of 2000 people.
@Jamietheroadrunner
@Jamietheroadrunner Ай бұрын
Thanks for letting me know. Never heard of it before Edit: Fascinating Horror actually has a video on it
@ladyeowyn42
@ladyeowyn42 Ай бұрын
Both are covered in atmospheric chemistry classes, of course. That’s where I learned about these.
@hectorsmommy1717
@hectorsmommy1717 Ай бұрын
@@ladyeowyn42 Makes sense. I learned about the London Smog in a general weather and climate class back in the 70's but didn't know about Donora until The Weather Channel did a documentary on it. I think it was part of the "When weather changed History" or something similar.
@hectorsmommy1717
@hectorsmommy1717 Ай бұрын
@@Jamietheroadrunner The Weather Channel had one too. Not sure if it is available anywhere. It was part of their "When Weather Changed History" series.
@Jamietheroadrunner
@Jamietheroadrunner Ай бұрын
@@hectorsmommy1717 there are multiple docs on it. The Fascinating Horror was good but brief
@donsandsii4642
@donsandsii4642 Ай бұрын
I remember leaning about killer smog in London in the 19th century in history class (USA)
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Ай бұрын
less Smog (was some) in C19th but Fog was around a lot in colder times and narrower buildings and streets in what is now Central London.
@roofgardener7897
@roofgardener7897 Ай бұрын
Back in the early 1970's, Nottingham started banning home burning of coal (in the days before central heating) and I remember us having to switch to coke and other coal alternatives. But I did not know the background to this, and hadn't heard about the London disaster at all. (I was only about 5 at the time, and we didn't have a TV). Thanks for this documentary
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Ай бұрын
That is what strikes me as shocking about the UK. The country was so poor that people were engaged in open hearth burning of coal on a room by room basis as late as the 1970s. We hadn't done that in the USA since probably the 1850s.
@richardbutler4654
@richardbutler4654 Ай бұрын
We had a coal fire in a house built in the 1960's (village outside Nottingham) As an asthmatic I remember having to wear a smog mask at age 3-6 when we moved away from the low lying area by the Trent
@maddiethomas5892
@maddiethomas5892 Ай бұрын
I've never heard of this. My grandmama was 10 years old but she lived in Scotland. I'll ask her if she remembers this.
@ChickpeatheTortie
@ChickpeatheTortie Ай бұрын
At 13 hooray you finally said it. The air is London is absolutely rancid and in the past 2 years I've had to be picked up off the pavement four times because of asthma attacks - I'm on 5 different asthma meds
@mommatanya1
@mommatanya1 Ай бұрын
Such a cheerful video! 😢
@simonhadley8829
@simonhadley8829 Ай бұрын
How many people then were "fog deniers" similar to our Covid deniers today?
@franceskronenwett3539
@franceskronenwett3539 Ай бұрын
My parents were living in London at that time and told me about this horrific event. A contributing factor to this disaster which was not mentioned in this video was the decision to replace the electric trams with new diesel buses. These belched out black toxic fumes making the whole situation worse.
@EGSBiographies-om1wb
@EGSBiographies-om1wb Ай бұрын
I learned about *the great smog* in an episode of *The Crown* .
@RikAindow
@RikAindow Ай бұрын
The streets are paved with blood. A statement which rings true to pretty much everything that we have learned over hundreds of years.
@mohammedsaysrashid3587
@mohammedsaysrashid3587 Ай бұрын
Wonderful introduction...of that London disaster 1952 12000 murdered due toxic gas expansion as lethal fog...
@karensexauer6138
@karensexauer6138 Ай бұрын
The poor veterans of WW1 who managed to survive the gas attacks would have had no chance in this fog.
@nlwilson4892
@nlwilson4892 Ай бұрын
Most of those exposed to gas yet "survived" didn't live that long. My great uncle and everyone that was gassed alongside him died 7 years later, all within the space of a year.
@photosbyjf
@photosbyjf Ай бұрын
I read of this someplace before. I think it was a murder mystery and fog was a backdrop for the story
@timbert4672
@timbert4672 27 күн бұрын
It didn't just happen in London either, this well documented smog disaster happened there but many parts of the UK were plagued by temperature inversions causing exactly this. I live in what used to be a cotton town in the north which is set on/within a valley and the reason we were first given free access to the privately owned moorlands either side was so that the people who lived here had somewhere to go where they could breathe clear air when the toxic smog became stagnated close to the ground. The legacy of these is still visible on many old stone and brick buildings, the chimneys on top are black in color unlike the rest of the building which is left over soot and pollutants from that era. The reason the other bricks below the gutter lines are clean is because they were all sandblasted back in the 60's in preparation for a visit from the queen, but the chimneys didn't get done due to budgeting and time constraints.
@donaldkelly3983
@donaldkelly3983 Ай бұрын
In my grammar school history class we did learn about this disaster as an example of air pollution.
@ericshelby8813
@ericshelby8813 Ай бұрын
Simon apparently covered the same topic on his Sideprojects channel a few years before. Whoops. I don't really fault Simon. Even he admits that he can't always keep track of what he covers on his channels.
@harrisonmiller6475
@harrisonmiller6475 Ай бұрын
Can u do a video on Giant Hogweed?
@hypsyzygy506
@hypsyzygy506 Ай бұрын
And the Bhopal disaster.
@a.s6668
@a.s6668 Ай бұрын
Great channel mate keep it up
@superchile9640
@superchile9640 25 күн бұрын
You’re right. I never heard of this…
@hanglee5586
@hanglee5586 Ай бұрын
Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster 👺 in jolly London.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Ай бұрын
The joys too of the coking plants - Nantgarw in South Wales, Manvers in South Yorkshire were just some
@jimidkfa
@jimidkfa Ай бұрын
am i correct that it was this disastrous event from which "smog" (smoke and fog) was first used as a term? clearly, smog had been around before then, i mean the coining of the term.
@gracietrish7453
@gracietrish7453 28 күн бұрын
I live in the Monongahela River valley in Pennsylvania. In 1948, we had smog in one of the towns Donora because of a local zinc plant.
@SandrA-hr5zk
@SandrA-hr5zk Ай бұрын
Don't even need to look to developing countries... California's Central Valley has some of the worst air quality in the country and world. And we're the heart of America's agriculture too. We often end up with an inversion layer blanketing the valley in the winter time. Now that wildfire season is nearly year round, we're blanketed in smoke from that as well. It's like living at the bottom of a bowl, nothing escapes.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Ай бұрын
Lived in a rural villiage in Oxford in the 1980s. the evening smog was terrible with all the houses burning coal and wood
@diegoknyte
@diegoknyte Ай бұрын
The big smoke. Couldn’t think of anything better?
@unocoltrane2804
@unocoltrane2804 Ай бұрын
I wonder how many Chinese are dying in Beijing from their smog problem. The air pollution issue hasn't been treated, just moved to the other side of the world. Out of sight, out of mind.
@GreatSageSunWukong
@GreatSageSunWukong Ай бұрын
their choice and they are building 47 more coal fired power stations, meanwhile they are also filling their streets with badly made electric cars that frequently burst into flames setting fire to things around them and theres no way to put a lithium fire out
@unocoltrane2804
@unocoltrane2804 Ай бұрын
@@staticbuilds7613, I’m referring more to how the western nations act like we are causing irreparable damage to the atmosphere and decide to implement taxes to “combat” climate change, but won’t do anything to china. Leads me to believe that the climate crap is overstated, they’re afraid of china, or both. Anything to steal our hard-earned money, I guess. I know there’s more to it, but still, government is untrustworthy in nearly every aspect.
@CeleWolf
@CeleWolf Ай бұрын
It hasn't moved lol It's been dealt with here and has not yet been dealt with there...
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Ай бұрын
Chinese power stations are both cleaner and more efficient that almost anything in the USA, and most power stations in Europe. The smog has greatly declined in China in the past 16 years. The Beijing Olympics was a major catalyst for change.
@mill__er
@mill__er Ай бұрын
Not sure if this happens elsewhere, but in Australia most country people call cities “the big smoke”, despite none of them being smokey, foggy maybe, but not smokey.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Ай бұрын
Coking for Town Gas probably been forgotten about, we had Gas Works Everywhere - Fulham, Beckton, being a couple of the bigger ones in London but plenty more smaller
@BitTwisted1
@BitTwisted1 24 күн бұрын
I vaguely remember reading a few years ago about some declassified documents which related to the 1956 smog, probably in new scientist. Apparently it was already well understood that the sulphur in coal made the smogs much worse and generally higher quality low sulphur coal was used in London and especially Battersea Power Station. Battersea PS had been built with aesthetically pleasing but way too short chimneys, so it didn't send the smoke above the winter inversion layer. The power output of Battersea correlated well with the severity of smogs. However in 1956 the issue was made much worse by the government of the day desperately trying to pay down the war debts, by exporting the low sulphur coal and allowing cheaper high sulphur coal to be burned instead, especially in Battersea PS. I doubt they did this knowingly but the law of unintended consequences often catches people out.
@ranmount
@ranmount Ай бұрын
great video.
@ringlhach
@ringlhach Ай бұрын
Simon calls temperature inversions rare, but that really depends on the local geography. Unless we get pressure fronts strong enough to stir things up, they're a fact of life in the mountain US.
@raquellofstedt9713
@raquellofstedt9713 Ай бұрын
Pasadena California was even known for it by the native Americans. Fresno has suffered from it for all it's history. Hardly new.
@moritz7179
@moritz7179 Ай бұрын
another very compelling reason why we should all heat our houses with heat pumps
@Mark2024Hola
@Mark2024Hola Ай бұрын
London in the 80s/90s and even early 2000s was gross. Every time I went there, I came back with grime in my nose and under my fingernails -It was like a miasma of filth - sorry for the description. It does seem better now though. Interesting video. Thanks.
@GreatSageSunWukong
@GreatSageSunWukong Ай бұрын
its the cars that cause that, go anywhere with a lot of cars and you will get that, it was especially bad before leaded petrol was banned.
@Mark2024Hola
@Mark2024Hola Ай бұрын
@@GreatSageSunWukong Yup agreed. I only own a bicycle. I remember that when the Olympics took place in Beijing, they had to ban traffic for some time to make sure the air was healthy for the athletes.
@GreatSageSunWukong
@GreatSageSunWukong Ай бұрын
@@Mark2024Hola healthy should be written "healthy" surely its still shit there because of all the coal fired power stations and factories, they have over 1,161 coal power stations with plans to build another 47 in the coming few years, the next nearest country is india with 284. banning traffic in China is like us banning plastic straws, its a drop in the ocean, completely meaningless.
@DarkWarchieff
@DarkWarchieff Ай бұрын
Did a vid on Bhopal?
@arjanzweers6542
@arjanzweers6542 Ай бұрын
He already did yes
@AeroGuy07
@AeroGuy07 Ай бұрын
He already did, but I don't know which one of his channels it's on.
@TheManLab7
@TheManLab7 Ай бұрын
@@AeroGuy07that's a question everyone wants to know because he's got so many.
@vic5015
@vic5015 Ай бұрын
He already did.
@Dexy83
@Dexy83 Ай бұрын
The government was slow to react? Ignored the people? Never. 😒
@paulhyde1834
@paulhyde1834 24 күн бұрын
Yes, I learned about it!
@lockinhinddanger934
@lockinhinddanger934 Ай бұрын
Funny enough I actually did learn about this in school, and I'm an American (world history class) it really should be a good show of why pollution isn't a good thing.
@Fomites
@Fomites Ай бұрын
And it wasn't just lung/respiratory damage - this pollution penetrates all tissues of the body causing inflammation and induces pathology in many organs including blood vessels causing strokes and heart attacks.
@curlyspikes7114
@curlyspikes7114 Ай бұрын
My dad remembered this and said that when he went to the cinema, the screen was obscured by the smog as it drifted in to the theatre
@sparkplug1018
@sparkplug1018 Ай бұрын
What I’ve always wondered about this event was, why was there no panic from the public when people started dropping? Obviously air pollution wasn’t understood, but this was only 34 years after WW1. The horrors of gas being used in this conflict was well known both from veterans stories and the media. And was so horrific even Germany wouldn’t use it again in combat. Which really begs that question, why weren’t the people horrified and demanding action while it was happening
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Ай бұрын
It wasnt really reported, and as the wind changed it litleral blew over
@don8029
@don8029 26 күн бұрын
Tv series 'The Crown' did a great job on this
@hollieBlu303
@hollieBlu303 Ай бұрын
As a Brit, it's strange. We''re a tiny island that has shifted our entire world enormously...some of these things are badges of pride...but so, SO many are marks of our failure. And that just sucks.
@justincarrel7930
@justincarrel7930 Ай бұрын
This was actually covered at my school, though I'm an american, I guess it was in an attempt to push home the concept of the dangers of capricious environmental neglect.
@rogerbrown1750
@rogerbrown1750 Ай бұрын
I was about 5 when we used to play outside in this fog in Croydon Surrey,we survived.
@JamesGorman-q3k
@JamesGorman-q3k 13 күн бұрын
I learned about this in history.
@GilmerJohn
@GilmerJohn Ай бұрын
The US city of Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania had a smoke problem during wwII. In the first year after the war the street lamps were on during noon. BY 1950 "Smoke Control" became the law.
@AnimeShinigami13
@AnimeShinigami13 Ай бұрын
As someone with asthma, this is a NIGHTMARE 😱Holy fucking shit, no wonder Tom Lehrer has an entire song about pollution!!! And sulpher dioxide is a nightmare to me because of my asthma. Those poor people, their lungs must have gotten scarred ick!
@jovanweismiller7114
@jovanweismiller7114 Ай бұрын
Your remark that in the 1950s you could do whatever you wanted is bollocks. The first law attempting to deal with London's air pollution problem was enacted in the reign of King Edward I in the early 14th century. Edward died in 1307, 645 years before the "Great Smog".
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Ай бұрын
What was his law?
@KbIMbIFbIMPA
@KbIMbIFbIMPA Ай бұрын
One of famous victims of the Great Smog was Charles Herbert Lightoller the second officer on board the RMS Titanic
@mrcthulhu47themad45
@mrcthulhu47themad45 Ай бұрын
Now that you covered this how about a mini series of disasters and there storm of the century variants
@hithere7382
@hithere7382 Ай бұрын
We learned about 5th December 1952 in the 5th or 6th grade in middle school at a private school in Arkansas USA. We learned about it again in a different private high school, go rockets.
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