The toxicity of crunchy mom spirituality

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[@ToadalSimplicity]

Well said as always. I’m not glad that toxic individuality is so pervasive, but it at least makes me feel a bit more sane when other people call it out too. It’s exhausting to try and find community. So many times I’ve gotten my hopes up only to find that it’s another cult in disguise.

[@FullFrontalGandP]

"When it happens to you that's karma because you did something wrong. If something happens to me it's really just an unfortunate event caused by someone else."

[@anahidkassabian4471]

Couldn't agree more. Beautifully well articulated.

[@geraldinegranger9186]

I think many of us are too afraid to admit that all kinds of shit just happens because then it could happen to us as well. I do understand that, but wish we could take our good fortune as grace and pass that grace to others rather than blaming/shaming people for what we think they did wrong. And none of us know another’s whole story.

[@homeiswonderland]

All this soul-level stuff... I just can't understand these people. I think these people just want to avoid the concept of suffering at all costs. "Those babies/animals/elderly people aren't suffering--they chose this at a soul-level!" Yeah, okay.

[@Groucho_Marxist_ASMR]

I was surprised to find out, years ago, that a lot of wiccans are power-seeking right-wing authoritarians who fucking love hierarchy. It was surprising at first, but after witnessing it, and getting over the initial surprise, I couldn't help but winder why I was surprised. I'm sure there are some out there that don't fit that description, and I don't want to paint that sector of the community with a broad brush, but the ones I ran into absolutely were like that.

[@goldengryphon]

I went solitary because I couldn't handle all the power plays I was seeing in the covens. I couldn't figure out why someone who had 5 people they "helped to find their path" would try to exert so much control over what those people did in other aspects of their lives, but I wanted none of it. I'm politically conservative, but have always had the idea of You Do You.

[@ColRubyDimplesManacha]

Very well said

[@angela.shanta]

Thank you for speaking out on this! I have crunchy tendencies, but have avoided those communities because of that gross individualistic attitude that is so pervasive in those circles.

[@flowerpixel]

Yes I think of health guru yoga pants women parading their genetics it's like extra obnoxious

[@rhondabarlow860]

Now I'm going to look up what's a crunchy mom. Yeah....that's disturbing thinking.

[@gunning6407]

It's amazing how much this looks like a rebranded Calvinist predeterminism that justifies the victors their victory and the powerless their powerlessness. Such a convenient ideology for those of privilege, isn't it?

[@RevLetaLee]

Spiritual bypassing.

[@TrisRamos]

You’re speaking truth to idiots!

[@johnmilligan4260]

What are "crunchy moms"?

[@homeiswonderland]

a mother or female caregiver who typically follows a natural lifestyle and incorporates it into their parenting --Google

[@ToadalSimplicity]

Moms that refuse to follow the status quo bone-softening protocols that the patriarchy attempts to foist on all of us. Rebel and stay crunchy ✊ the trolls hate it.

[@pthomasgarcia]

​@@homeiswonderlanddoes the "crunchy" adjective come from granola or something?

[@KatBurnsKASHKA]

@@pthomasgarcia indeed

[@TheRealHonestInquiry]

Duality is how we experience things here, no light without dark, no bliss without pain. Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. If you've never experienced your own spiritual nature, comments like these all sound like callous, offensive woo-woo nonsense; I know because I used to agree with your points here, I used to think it was so unfair that people came into this world only to die horribly moments later, and that no just god would allow that to happen. It was my perspective because I hadn't yet realized how the negative experiences in my life had made me stronger, and had never really tasted a drop of spirituality and had no understanding of it. It has nothing to do with beliefs or religion, but knowledge from direct experience of your true self. Pretend for a minute that it's true that "souls" are real, that your true self is eternal consciousness, and you reincarnate over and over, into different bodies (none of which are you but they are yours), into what is essentially a "matrix" type reality, where you forget your true nature, in order to learn lessons and experience both pain and joy and everything duality has to offer. In this reality, every experience has value, and everything happens for the best, because consciousness exists and the memories and experiences pass on through lifetimes, you are able to consciously choose at every moment, constantly honing in on a better and better experience, by learning what you want and don't want. If it's true that your "soul family members" agree to come down with you, and agree to play roles beforehand, whether it's be your child, partner, abuser, murderer, etc. so that you can experience what you set out to, then your offense to the comment doesn't make it untrue, it only means you haven't remembered yet. If you know you know, and if you don't know then be fine with not knowing as not knowing is a necessary precursor to knowing, since no one is curious enough to explore what they think they already know.

[@ourportuguesehomestead]

Yeah, your comment might sound profound, but doesn't make any sense.

[@rainbowconnected]

While it's true that negative experiences can make you stronger and it's okay if you want to look at your experiences that way, I don't think that's okay to paint as how people "should" respond to awful things. It's okay, normal and healthy to be upset, hurt, angry, exhausted, discouraged, etc. in response to difficult, painful experiences. Trying to "find the lesson" in it right away while skipping over how painful it was isn't healthy. That's spiritual bypass. We have to feel the hard stuff. Doesn't mean we get stuck in or dwell on it. The idea that anyone "chooses" to be incarnated into an abusive family or be harmed is victim blaming at it's finest. No one chooses to be abused. We can grow a lot more with safe, loving supportive experiences than negative ones.

[@EtainMcCloud]

You are talking a lot of things that almost sound like Buddhism but have nothing to do with actual practice. I know that it is frighting to accept that we all have very little control over what happens in our lives and in the world, but getting into step with reality, accepting it, and then doing what we can with what we have is how we actually accomplish change. Suffering comes from the denial of reality, and you are deep in that denial.