The Tragedy of The Knights of Ren

It's fairly popular these days to beat down on the Disney Star Wars sequels... and that's for good reason.
Among the many missed opportunities from these movies, we find the Knights of Ren.
Kylo Ren's elite squad of powerful warriors that we see only briefly throughout the films, until their eventual demise in Episode 9.
Episodes 7 through 9 are lacking compelling villains beyond Kylo Ren, and it would have been great to get to know antagonists that we could see go back and forth with Rey and the rest of her rebel crew.
Perhaps with some of them maybe turning back to the light or dying tragically... or even just at least being an in-between challenge for Rey to help show her growth as a Jedi, or even challenges for Finn or Poe.
But no, they get no dialogue, are basically window dressing for scenes, and only ultimately exist to expand a Kylo Ren action figure set.
There's actually some interesting lore to Ren and the predecessors of the name and lightsaber, but we never got any of that even hinted at in the films. Instead we got... well, what we got in the sequels.
The angle of Ren and the philosophy of The Ren in comparison to the order of the Sith is a pretty interesting idea, and again, considering that Ben Solo took the mantle of Kylo Ren while still not taking the lightsaber The Ren... could have all been interesting to see and would have been more interesting than “somehow, Palpatine returned.”
It's an interesting direction to take to expand the Dark Side and the ways to become corrupted by it.
Instead of villains like that, we get rushed high stakes villain Palpatine, Palpatine's gloried bath robe puppet and... Hux.
And Captain Phasma, I guess... but damn she could get her own video-- there's another huge missed opportunity of a character right there.
The worst part about this is that unlike a lot of Star Wars where more shallow parts can be effectively explained and expanded on through spin-off media, I wouldn't want them to elaborate more on who the Knights of Ren were.
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[@meme.interzone]

They had such cool designs... And nothing else. No character, no identity. So unfortunate.

[@disneyboy3030]

Then came the comics.

[@meme.interzone]

@@disneyboy3030 They do what they can

[@linamoss292]

4:32 That one trooper who said "#goals!!" had more dialogue than any of the actual Knights of Ren did

[@terrymoss2183]

If they ran with the idea of Kylo Ren actually wanting to destroy the Sith and create a newer Order that's more based on the logic of Ren, I think it would have made the sequel trilogy way more interesting and Kylo Ren a much more interesting character. But instead, they just bailed and rushed the films scripts so much that it's all trash.

[@devinsenrick]

Knights of Ren needed red lightsabers. I want to know their former identities.

[@mediatransmission]

They are dark side force users. Why wouldn't Ren or Kylo Ren show then the ways of the saber? Instead they have their own weapons... Which are fine, but I think we'd all prefer if they were using red sabers. And again, with no time for character development, we know nothing about their former identities without needing to look up their lore.

[@PsychedelicDude]

To me, the sequels do nothing but ruin the immersion. They need to be erased from canon. Any movie or show trying to fix or explain them will only ruin itself by trying and even if it is actually good, it will only make the ST even worse by contrast.

[@mediatransmission]

Exactly! Couldn't have said it better, myself. It's a good thing that the only animated series spin off from the sequels sucks too and is already barely worth watching.

[@PsychedelicDude]

@@mediatransmission I haven't and never will see Resistance xD

[@mediatransmission]

@@PsychedelicDude You're better off that way. Way better off. Not actually SUPER terrible but definitely not worth watching

[@PsychedelicDude]

@@mediatransmission The animation alone is a turn off. Makes Rebels look dark and gritty by comparison.

[@mediatransmission]

@@PsychedelicDude I actually didn't mind initially then going for a more "cel-shaded" look, but the character faces and the overall models are just awful. Too bad, too. Could have at least helped flesh out Po and Finn or something but I guess not.

[@krist697]

wtf is Ren? It's a person? it's an idea? it's a lightsaber?... Maybe better stick to the Nightsisters?

[@mediatransmission]

Ren is the one who wields The Ren... Except for Kylo Ren, who doesn't even use The Ren. Yeah I know the logic ain't perfect but it's still better than Palpatine not being killed by Vader.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

George Lucas, JJ & Disney really screwed up; Luke could of showed up, fought off the Knights of Wren in The Force Awakens. A huge battle that brings Luke back on screen like the end of Disney's The Mandorean. The flawed, stupid pointless way characters like Gen Hux, Snoke, Capt Phasma, DJ, Knights of Wren displayed how inept Disney is.

[@mediatransmission]

They just had no idea how to set up villains and have fights with them that pay off and resolve points in the narrative. Super unfortunate.

[@emilyevans7642]

Gorge Lucas sold star wars to Disney he has absolutely no say in what happens anymore.

[@robertsmiley2207]

I always say the knights of ren was wasted potential such bad ass character designs all for nothing

[@mediatransmission]

Couldn't agree more. Awesome designs, with no substance underneath.

[@chrisstetsko5020]

Simple Answer: They Sucked! Seriously, WTF did they do? What purpose did they serve? And what did they accomplish besides getting their collective asses kicked by Ben Solo in the finale?

[@mediatransmission]

Nothing beyond looking cool in the background of Kylo Ren posters and action figure sets

[@MDarkraven]

The Knights of Ren are a waste of opportunity? Really? How about the waste of the opportunity of having possible a last adventures with main original (no other characters that have no bearing on the trilogy or the story is a whole) characters involved in one last war in the stars.

[@mediatransmission]

I agree, the whole sequel trilogy is a wasted opportunity. The tragedies of modern Star Wars will all be covered.

[@idiot_city5244]

They die so easily haha

[@mediatransmission]

And to Ben Solo, who as Kylo Ren, the one who destroyed the Jedi Order from under Luke, could barely beat Rey, who had JUST received a lightsaber. These "knights" SUCK

[@edmontontech2008]

I love the part of this video where you poke holes in your own arguments.

[@mediatransmission]

This was my first script, you gotta cut me a break 😭

[@59rlmccormack]

I feel quite bad for you.

[@mediatransmission]

Why's that?