The Tragedy That Shook the Skies: Did Russia Really Shoot Down a Civilian Airliner?

[@rajithasiriwardena1009]

Denys, so good to see you in your professional element. I have seen how much effort you initially took to adjust to become a military commentator, particularly at the the early stages of the operation. Awesome early analysis.

[@jacekpaszkowski2000]

This dude's a grifter and war profiteer.

[@Dalwhinnie15]

My hats off to your aviation knowledge, Denys.

[@penelopegardner6523]

God bless those pilots, it seems they did all they could to save as many lives as possible, knowing it would cost them their own lives. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, Denys. Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦

[@janlindtner305]

My man Denys👍Længe leve Ukraine🍀❤👍

[@antonioribeiro6119]

It would not be the first time that Rússia shoot a civilian plane. Now even Santa is not safe

[@Maj-zb9bg]

Second time !

[@MockBrainworthy]

Your title forgot the word "another". Russia shot down another airliner.

[@johnanderson9494]

Two other airliners B747 Korean Airlines flight 007 and B777 Malaysian Airlines flight 17

[@UserDefaultEurope]

Finland’s Kaleva Ju-52. 14th June 1940, during peace between the Winter War and Continuation War.

[@maddlerCatr]

"Again" seems proper as well.

[@ghioceltudor4352]

You're right, sorry.

[@SPOK-zz5lj]

Not even only passenger planes remember the WAGNER guy that was calling out the GREMLIN FROM THE KREMLIN ?

[@speedtrap420]

It is apparent the russo bots have it in for Denys... The one clown saying it was a Ukrainian drone and a bomber in the cockpit had me laughing. WTF!?

[@Julian-zj2qy]

Listened to many reports but this is the most I've learnt about the incident. Thank you Denys.

[@mlight6845]

Thank you for speaking about the facts of what happened.

[@DominikGentener]

Thank you very much for this interesting interview with Denys.

[@yidiandianpang]

Thanks for being honest about being refused to land in Russia

[@TheTruthHz]

Again? I'm certain they did. And they'll pretend it didn't happen, irrespective of the evidence that comes out.

[@cmbergersct3492]

Thank you. Captain Davydov is knowledgeable, thorough, an excellent communicator - and easy on the eyes😊

[@rossmclellan3621]

Do you support him or hasnt he asked you ..yet

[@dwarftomatoproject]

No punishment = no need for responsibility, no need for responsibility = actions without consequences, actions without consequences = no need to admit anything 🤷‍♀️

[@rochcarothers-ts3jx]

Hey there ! 🇷🇺🇷🇺bots: WHY DONT YOU'ALL GO ✈️??

[@chlyon]

Apparently according to crewmember there was upto 3 missiles that hit the plane

[@dougaltolan3017]

Not convinced.. All the shrapnel went through the tail in the same direction.

[@annelucadou-wells3597]

Great insight you guys. Thank you 🇦🇺

[@controlfreak1963]

That's two airliners Russia has taken out during this war. Three if you include the Korean Air 747 shot down north of Japan in 1983.

[@Trump-is-a-Khuilo]

They also took out the Polish President.

[@controlfreak1963]

@@Trump-is-a-Khuilo And his entire leadership.

[@andrewtaylor940]

Russia and Ukraine held a joint military drill in the 90's and shot a Russian Airliner down. There's also that nagging question about the Polish Presidents plane.

[@runrau9275]

@@Trump-is-a-Khuilo Yes, and of course RU brought in their top notch Air Investigation Crew.

[@clemenshampel]

The birds were steel woodpeckers.

[@Duckfisher0222]

Ofc they did...How is this even a valid question, when the answer is in plain sight????? OMG, have we really degenerated that far?

[@im2b1234]

Denys, you're Great

[@gamersresidence6040]

Good interview 🎉

[@druspork7737]

Awesome commentary.

[@themcgeachys]

Denys the mennis , brilliant guy been watching his show since the WAR started

[@keesvandenbroek331]

Denys, you remember that A300 of DHL over Baghdad? That plane was targeted by a manpad, also lost ALL hydraulics but really managed to land back on the airfield! Cruel twist of fortune: during the rollout they rolled out in the field: a minefield! Not kidding here. Happened 22 november 2003. Captain had heared of the Sioux City accident and was able to apply the lessons learned. All three crewmembers survived. However FE had enough of flying and retired there and then. Just google DHL Baghdad A300 total hydraulic failure.

[@peacebewithyou4838]

I think Denys’ explanation on his yt pilot blog was very thorough.

[@voornaamachternaam771]

I expect that the russian prpaganda comes with a new theory everyday. They try to muddy the waters. That's what they did with the MH17.

[@petracastro6021]

Russia should have shut down its airspace. And passenger planes shouldn't fly over warzones

[@sorinbalanescu6819]

The work Denys does! Every day one or two videos! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

[@maitreyabadra2267]

Wow! It seams that Russians shut down (indiscriminately) anything that's flying in the sky! That's a preventive (or primitive) response of the Russian autopilot in action.The brick brain...

[@williamboyd2963]

Thank you so much for this informative video. Subscribed now to your channel. Denys Davydov is a font of knowledge and love his channel. I assume mistake made by air defense, no accountability. RIP victims.

[@olena-]

My question to Denys, which I am surprised nobody is asking about, if the plane would not have to stay in the air for much longer period of time flying aross the Caspian sea to Kazahstan and attempted to emergency land in one of the three nearby airports, Nalchik, Vladikavkaz, Mahachkala would not it significantly increase the chances of a smoother landing and survival of everyone on board? According to one of the survivors after initial blasts and shakes the flight across the sea felt somewhat calm giving the chance for everyone to relax. It seems only toward the end the plane started to loose control.

[@mikebarushok5361]

Actually it's quite the opposite. To assess the situation and determine what control they had available required going through some checklists and could not be completed in time for a short diversion to be easier. And with only indirect control via engine thrust avoiding hilly terrain and airports located in populated areas becomes important. Maintaining (mostly) level flight over a body of water gave them time to see how much or how little attitude control they could get from using the throttles. And they flew towards better weather.

[@olena-]

@mikebarushok5361 They did not make it to the airfield line, they were short 3 km.

[@mikebarushok5361]

@@olena- After they flew over it twice.

[@olena-]

​@@mikebarushok5361​​​​ Please watch latest video of a professional Ukrainian pilot on his channel Dmytro Antonov with eng subs. He shares his insights. It shows with what supernatural efforts pilots were keeping the plane in the air toward the end of crossing the Caspian sea. Diagram of the flight shows like they were not even sure they could make it to the land.

[@MaterLacrymarum]

No surprise, they've done it before. Look up Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, a crash from a decade ago.

[@anniep7627]

It does look like Russia took down that plane.

[@MidnightWarrior1976]

Yes. Of course. No debate.

[@captbrad6329]

2 crimes here The Shootdown And Denial of Emergency Landing..

[@brianwillson9567]

Yes, yes, and, just to avoid any doubt, yes.

[@vincentmcguire215]

Nice too see Jason giving Denys air time , shame Georgi at Ukraine Matters does the opposite ?

[@danielkarlsson9326]

United 232 and SAS 751 was very lucky that they got a third captain with some serious high level experience as passengers. that extra capacity and experience was pivotal in both cases. i would say we might need to go back to a crew of 3 instead of two . 2 pilots flying and handling comms and a third person handling the computers and systems. the workload is today to high to be able to handle everything even automatisation. Also we need a third black box called Cockpit Video recorder. and possible a Cabin blackbox.

[@AndrewC.McPherson-xf5zw]

Ty❤

[@LarsDanskog-er9tb]

Slava Ukraini/from Sweden

[@hawklord100]

There are circle within circles with this Azerbaijan plane being shot down, After Erdogan booted russia out of Syria, it makes you wonder if this was a gangster spate between Putin and Erdogan, since Erdogan also booted Russia out of Azerbaijan and caused Armenia to turn away from the ru as well 😆 - Slava Ukraini 💙💛

[@betsy6202]

Denys!!!!! Great to see you 👍 You are Simply the Best 🎶❤🎶!!!!!! Xx........

[@davidrusen9938]

Is it possible the Russian military had installed air defense missiles to keep airships from approaching Grozni but never informed the civil aviation people? And that is why air traffic controllers apparently allowed incoming landings?

[@AndrewC.McPherson-xf5zw]

Super fkn sad scene for sure.

[@dougaltolan3017]

If GPS was jammed, the flight data recorder will have garbage position data.

[@mikebarushok5361]

It will have inertial navigation data which should be sufficient and can be pretty accurately corrected for the period when satellite navigation data was missing. Especially if there is also airport radar data where maneuvers took place.

[@markmitchell457]

The Russian military is not very professional.

[@Julian-zj2qy]

Russia is not very professional.

[@flanker8724]

The Americans shot down their own F-18 a couple of days ago 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@marqsee7948]

@@flanker8724 how many civilians were on it?

[@markclare3954]

​@@marqsee7948read the news.

[@flanker8724]

@@marqsee7948 The US shot down their own in peacetime, so much about professionalism… Btw do you really think Russia would be interested in shooting down a comercial airliner??? Shit happens, especially when someone attacks you deliberately with drones knowing that accidents like this can happen… you see, Ukraine and the west are all about propaganda war, cause they know Russia won’t be defeated on the battlefield…

[@anonemus2971]

Yes, they shot it down

[@Pär-Erik]

Well spoken Denys🇺🇦

[@simonbattle0001]

Good job Deny. Slava Ukrayini!

[@ghioceltudor4352]

Denys, I'm willing to bet that the damn orcs won't acknowledge this incident, just as they haven't acknowledged any of the atrocities committed in Ukraine. From hospitals and cities razed to the ground. They fired a missile at the aircraft, the shrapnel depressurized the aircraft, there were victims hit by shrapnel. The whole world saw it. And as if to put the icing on the cake, they jammed it and the GPS signal refused to make an emergency landing for them and sent them over the Sea of ​​Azov to lose the aircraft at sea along with the evidence. Tranquil holidays and thank you for your service.🤗🤗🤗

[@eamonryan2198]

That is what I think too.

[@peteryyz43]

'Did Russia Really Shoot Down a Civilian Airliner?': also, is the pope catholic? and does a bear shit in the woods?

[@agorlucio7683]

Yes, they did!

[@garyfilmer382]

Slava Ukraini!🇺🇦🔱

[@AndrewC.McPherson-xf5zw]

Worst nightmare for sure. Shot down by Orcs. Unreal. Is there any depth to this depravity?

[@Frank-kd7yb]

They do that often

[@WayneWerbovetski]

Hey Denys, appreciate your analysis from a pilot's viewpoint. Hopefully, the officials in Kazakztan confirm the cause , without Russian interference. As an aside, I watch your podcasts daily. Can you answer one question? - you seem to wear a cap with the Winnipeg Jets hockey team logo on it. Is that correct and where did you get it?

[@barbarakwadwo-herdemerten325]

What's about tge blackboxes? Are they found already?

[@paulmitchell2468]

Yes.

[@barbarakwadwo-herdemerten325]

@@paulmitchell2468 thanks, so I wait for the evaluation!

[@dannyboy-vtc5741]

They weren't lost in the first place, flight recorders are placed in the tail section, the tail section is where the survivors sat, the part of the plane that was accessible from the start.

[@runrau9275]

@@paulmitchell2468 Do they have Black Stewardess in that part of the world?

[@jimmifrandsen4740]

❤️❤️❤️🇺🇦🇩🇰🇺🇦🇩🇰🇺🇦❤️❤️❤️

[@felipearbustopotd]

Putin told his Azerbaijani counterpart that Russian air defenses were active before the plane crashed in Kazakhstan, killing 38 people he stopped short of claiming responsibility. How is that an apology?

[@hanamichelle]

Denys did an accurate analysis of what happened, unlike Kyiv Post reporters in 2014 calling the Russian invasion of Ukraine "separatists" when I repeatedly told them they are Russian military terrorists. Duh! We know the Russians don't take responsibility for their actions, but neither does Kyiv Post for their deplorable journalism.

[@nickbouvy8851]

Yes

[@ecossearthur]

Former Airline Pilot,

[@mootah]

Slava Ukraina❤🇫🇮

[@mootah]

Deserter

[@darrencorrigan8505]

Did any pilots survive?

[@matsnyberg5065]

Glad to see the 6 star General of SLAVA UKRAINE army Denys Davydov. Glad to see you in public on the post.

[@beatreuteler]

There is a long tradition of downing civilian aircraft in this region of the world: Korean Airlines 902 (1978); Korean Airlines 007 (1983, both by Sovjet fighters); Transair Georgia (2x by Abchasian Separatists both 1983). Sibir 1812 (downed 2001 by a Ukranian shot that missed a target drone); MH17 (2014 by Russian Separatists or Russians in Ukraine) and now this one. It is really hard to believe that this little care was taken to make sure this aircraft is not getting even close to the combat zone while reports of Ukrainian attacks near Grozny are spread for over a month now.

[@goldienorman9402]

Not to mention the plane that Prighozin was flying in.. with Dmitry Utkin...

[@beatreuteler]

@@goldienorman9402 Correct. I didn't mention that one because I believe it wasn't a commercial flight.

[@sylvestermoore4307]

Did the plane made suspicious movement, or did the movement of the plane put the plane in arms way

[@joeperkowski]

Of course they did who else

[@alimajidian1974]

Yes, he did.

[@johnelliott7020]

As always thank you Denys! When I watched the first videos - it was very clear this was targeted. I think and feel we need to look at the passenger list. There was some one on the plane who they were targeting. This was NOT a random goof up. The plane and one or more passengers were targeted for a reason. The FSB and Putin have objectives. Think Yevgeny Prigozhin plane crash. Not random - always an objective.

[@santimaspons]

💙💛

[@GailBurfoot]

I thought the majority of airline pilots were ex military pilots.

[@Eigil_Skovgaard]

If you ignore the red lights and step out in front of the train - you get hurt.

[@darrencorrigan8505]

Denys, A pretty smart boy once decided to fly aircraft for a living. Even when he is out of work, he is not out of work! You know, we have to vote the Russians/Soviets out of our societie/s. Your Brrrrt is missing.

[@gmgrammer9851]

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[@samgraham8430]

Like you'd know.

[@bevanshirley8263]

Lets do russia then do climate change?

[@NumptyBumpty-w9j]

The question I have for Denys is why isn’t he doing fundraising for the Ukrainian army, every other KZbinr is, with Denys big community he could probably raise hundreds thousands.

[@sbtx4106]

Good point. Or why he left Ukraine instead of joining the Air force. Pretty sure they could use qualified pilots with those F16's and Mirages coming.

[@janeharrison835]

@@sbtx4106 He's a commercial pilot. Very different training profile to military, and totally different to fighter jet flying. Plus when he went to sign up for the military they rejected him on health grounds.

[@jacekpaszkowski2000]

This grifter is on here now. Now I know this news source is not credible, they hire a grifter.

[@jhconjr]

Denys, you know the difference between an aircraft being shot down and one being damaged by missile shrapnel. Azerbaijan Flight J2-8243 was damaged but not shot down. The missile damage caused the emergency but the aircraft was still flyable, as evidenced by traveling from Baku to Aktau, then circling the airfield prior to crashing.

[@paulmitchell2468]

Well, clearly not that flyable due to the damage of the hydrolics in the tail section - hence the erratic flight path and failed landing.

[@mos8541]

jesus fukk are you KIDDING ME? so is the INVASION and WAR perpetrated against UA a special military operation?! smFh SHOT DOWN... SHOT...DOWN

[@questionmark4348]

By that logic, No plane is ever shot down since it is still in the air until it hits the ground. Think about controlling an airplane with engine trust only, want to turn left increase power on the right engine but there is no way to bank so at best it has to skid through the air and if that wing does start to rise how do you get it back down again for straight and level flight? To climb increase thrust to both engines which will push the nose up but how do you get it back down, reduce thrust until the wings stall? Thats not flying, thats just changing the location of the crash site

[@speedtrap420]

Simply being damaged means it landed, crashing after being hit is in fact "shot down". How flyable is that aircraft you defend now?

[@jhconjr]

​@@speedtrap420 It is likely that the aircraft crashed due to pilot error, not due to damage caused by the missile. It flew for an hour and then circled the airfiel twice before crashing.

[@houyi3129]

Wouldn't it be possible to develop an AI/autopilot system that can control the steering by thrust in an emergency and works independently of the hydraulics?

[@sbtx4106]

I used to be a Patreon of Denys, but his commentary usually rolled off into the deep end. I have higher standards for the Kyiv Post.

[@paulmitchell2468]

Given Denys is a commercial pilot he is actually more qualified in this subject than the Ukrainian / Russian war.

[@keesvandenbroek331]

Oh, for me Denys is an excellent sourge of information of the war in Ukraine. But you may, of course have a different opinion. I definitely think that Kyiv Post has an excellent nose for their sources.

[@sbtx4106]

@@keesvandenbroek331 Listen, I'm not here to get into a back and forth. Denys was a pilot and I'm sure has a body of knowledge to draw upon in that capacity. But what I noticed was that when he strayed from that path and waxed philosophical on politics, he lost me. Also, watching his videos is basically the same as reading ISW's daily update and checking the DeepState map. If you're looking for a humorous take on the tragedy that is this war, follow Suchomimus. Keep the crosshairs on the bad guys in the Kremlin.

[@keesvandenbroek331]

@ “Keep the crosshairs on the bad guys in the Kremlin”. Yep, absolutely agree. Denys doesn’t? You are absolutely free to listen to or read or see whoever you want. And I’ll have a daily dose of Denys, prof Gerdes, Suchomimus, Torsten and ac ouple of others. ISW, Deep State? excellent and hugely informative sources. Very powerful. A lot of work. Glory to Ukraine. They have my support.

[@NoNicknameAtAll210]

Why do you give a deserter and war profiteer from switzerland airtime? It is insulting the brave fighters at the frontline.

[@speedtrap420]

It is more insulting to read your comment, my head shrunk. Kind of funny that none of his friends fighting, feel like you do. Not really funny, more sad instead.

[@laserhobbyist9751]

See that nice white sweater shirt he is wearing, I paid for it, not so much as a thank you from him.

[@speedtrap420]

Speaking of owing money, you owe me $23.95 for reading your asinine comment...

[@laserhobbyist9751]

@@speedtrap420 it was $100

[@PaulSullivan-u4u]

Why would Russia take out a civilian plane and my point is how. Russia uses advanced air defences based on satalites and accuracy they would automatically not target any civilian aircraft as long as the aircraft had its transponders on and we know full well there was Russians on board the flight. So my guess was it was a drone that took it down possibly a Ukraine drone as the plane deviated off course and both pilots were dead but another thing maybe a suicide bomber on board forced his way into the cockpit

[@rossmclellan3621]

Why would russia bomb childrens hospitals, maternity hospitals and schools

[@speedtrap420]

Keep guessing like a stooge... Is that your answer to the MH17 downing as well? LOL!. Bomber in the cockpit! Dead pilots! the more you type, the more I LOL! A drone! Flying next to a jetliner! You are quite an example of how not to act... a bomber in the cockpit!!! WTF!!!

[@janeharrison835]

A suicide bomber in the cockpit or a drone designed to demolish ground targets somehow caused close-proximity air-burst shrapnel damage to the tail? Yeah, no - physics doesn't work that way, sorry. As for the 'advanced air defences', so far the Russians have lost around a dozen of their own military aircraft to friendly fire air defence incidents since the full scale invasion of Ukraine, including a command-and-control type plane. And a heck of a lot more air defence systems to they type of drones they are supposed to be able to defend against...

[@goldienorman9402]

As usual..the Russian devotees seem to lack critical thinking skills 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@TheKakan1337]

A commercial fpv drone can fly to about 1000 feet so not even close to what an airliner can. This user is deflecting with the mountain of evidence pointing to the pantsir sneaking back into Russia proper

[@jetmec]

Why not ask an aircraft engineer for his interpretation not a pilot,

[@speedtrap420]

Or maybe the designer of the missile? It is not uncommon to ask pilots their opinions in situations like these, Denys is still a pilot...

[@hannesoehman]

I believe Denys Davydov is an aircraft engineer as well. I remember him stating that on one of his streams.

[@rossmclellan3621]

Denys....back from the front line.....what does he have to advise the generals today

[@mos8541]

they def. NEED ADVICE... jesus fukk, any Marine private can tell you how to prevent encirclement.. but NO UA generals have any idea... smFh

[@speedtrap420]

@rossmclellan3621, back from the toilet... What crap does he have to offer?

[@rossmclellan3621]

@@speedtrap420 exactly

[@bradbastian2025]

to headline, YES , obviously

[@MostHigh777]

Is the Pope Catholic?

[@dirkhanekom8323]

Yes