The TRAGIC Execution Of The Carthusian Monks

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TheUntoldPast

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@endtimestraveller7716
@endtimestraveller7716 3 жыл бұрын
The senseless cruelty of the human race.
@margaretbarrett6087
@margaretbarrett6087 3 жыл бұрын
Endtimes Traveller “ truly mankind is the king of the beasts, for his brutality surpasses all of them “ Da Vinci
@endtimestraveller7716
@endtimestraveller7716 3 жыл бұрын
@blue sky What's with the aggression? Feel better now? If you really think that this was just about Henry VIII then you really need to do some serious reading. Your ignorance is showing.
@endtimestraveller7716
@endtimestraveller7716 3 жыл бұрын
@blue sky It's strange how there are so many pop psychologists on social media.
@endtimestraveller7716
@endtimestraveller7716 3 жыл бұрын
@blue sky Oh well, we have something in common. Take care now.
@johngilmore6688
@johngilmore6688 3 жыл бұрын
It's strange how such an evil king, can be used to get the Scriptures in the English language distributed in, and read to every single congregation in the country. In a language, that "every English plow boy," and everyone else could understand. " The Holy Scriptures are able to make thee wise unto Salvation, through faith, which is in Christ Jesus." 2 Timothy 15:3. Providential then, that the Scriptures in English, travelled worldwide as the British Empire expanded. Just sayin.!
@Goodiesfanful
@Goodiesfanful 3 жыл бұрын
Being chained up for days in your own filth is what really outrages me about the fate of these poor monks.
@marilyntape508
@marilyntape508 3 жыл бұрын
They are all in Heaven now 🙏🇦🇺
@WILLIAM1690WALES
@WILLIAM1690WALES 3 жыл бұрын
The amazing thing about Henry VIII he would never became a Protestant and remained a Roman catholic?
@alhilford2345
@alhilford2345 3 жыл бұрын
He did not remain Catholic. A Catholic is one who accepts the authority of the Pope.
@ecopley9013
@ecopley9013 2 жыл бұрын
Nice try. The head of the Reformation in England remained a Catholic! I don't think anyone will swallow it! Ha!
@pinkknight9
@pinkknight9 3 жыл бұрын
And his daughter Mary got the bad rep.
@terrybarton8388
@terrybarton8388 3 жыл бұрын
Why are all your videos ‘Tragic’ ‘brutal’ etc clickbait titles.....
@phedrob3735
@phedrob3735 3 жыл бұрын
And I wonder which "Saintly and chaste" Pope was in power at the time. Would it have been the one with countless mistresses and illegitimate children? Or perhaps the one that blessed the Spanish Inquisition. Then again it could have been the Pope who ordered the death of the Knights Templar who were tortured to death or burned at the stake. I'm sure though it wasn't the Pope who sanctioned the burning at the stake of Joan of Arc. Thank heavens we've had so many kind and saintly popes who surpressed free thinking and scientific advances. I can't understand why anybody wouldn't want to pledge their allegiance to people like that.
@mallon201
@mallon201 3 жыл бұрын
We all have come here to this particular site to watch a film about Henrys treatment of the Carthusian monks during his reformation, instead of commenting on the film or henrys actions at that time all you can do is comment on the behaviour of Popes, one doesn't justify or excuse the other. His evil is seen in his treatment of these good men in the Carthusian order, an order unchanged since it was founded by St Bruno in 1084. 'Stat crux dum volvitur orbis', how true, even to this day, the cross remains steady while the world turns, things keep changing but the cross remains unchanged, Henry tried to change the church to suit his own desires, but couldn't, instead he had to form a new church, one that was staffed with yes men, people without principles, who would give him the type of church that would allow him to live the life he wanted, a church built around the sexual needs and desires of a king. He had murdered professed religious members of the Catholic Church who would not deny that the Pope was the head of the Church. One of them was a friend he had grown up with Bl. Sebastian Newdigate, whom Henry visited on more than one occasion to try to convince him to accept him as head of the church in England, Bl. Sebastian would only sign the oath of succession re the legality of Henrys marriage to Ann - 'in so far as Gods law permits', which obviously didn't satisfy Henry, as he had his friend hung, drawn and quartered. Imagine having that despot as the founder of your church, being a member of a church that exists solely because one man couldn't dispose of a wife when he tired of her, or she didn't give him what he desired.
@mallon201
@mallon201 3 жыл бұрын
Talking about Henry is relevant to the clip posted, or have you forgotten that in your haste to throw mud at the Popes and the Catholic Church, you're just another sad little troll, trying to bring your hatred into any post you can link into, grow up.
@phedrob3735
@phedrob3735 3 жыл бұрын
@@mallon201 The video's subject was how "Beastly" Henry behaved towards Catholics, albeit only those who chose to swear allegiance to the Pope and not Henry himself, as head of the Church of England. My comments have been to redress the balance by demonstrating that Catholics and the Catholic Church have hardly acted in a saintly manner throughout their history. I'm an atheist and owe no allegiance to any Church or religion so view the video purely from an historical and academic point of view, but whatever the subject matter I feel it is only fair to bring to light all sides of the equation. I will not however resort to addressing you in derogatory terms as you are entitled to your thoughts and opinions, as am I
@Trevor_Austin
@Trevor_Austin 3 жыл бұрын
Since when has believing in an invisible, silent being been a rational thing to do?
@Josh-rn1em
@Josh-rn1em 3 жыл бұрын
Calm down edgy atheist. There is much you don't understand yet. I'd suggest you watch a few Jordan Peterson vids on the Bible to see the benifits it brings to us.
@samlancaster1277
@samlancaster1277 3 жыл бұрын
Trevor Austin Faith is nothing to do with logic or rationality. Only strong men and women of Faith would face down state brutality and execution. It happens today , yes even today. Not perhaps in this nation but in parts of Africa certainly.
@jeankruger2502
@jeankruger2502 3 жыл бұрын
BLOODY Henry. Any wonder why Mary went the same route?
@michaelburgess6556
@michaelburgess6556 3 жыл бұрын
These holy martyrs have forgiven Henry VIII. Without mercy and forgiveness there is no hope.
@sunstrobe2000
@sunstrobe2000 3 жыл бұрын
Henry VIII should not be remembered as an English monarch, but as the psycopathic serial killer he was.
@June-tb4vi
@June-tb4vi 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly if you have read about his reign...your very correct
@tooyoungtobeold8756
@tooyoungtobeold8756 3 жыл бұрын
Most English monarchs were like that. Pillaging, robbing, killing their way around the country. Up until perhaps the William and Mary. Read about Edward l or Richard ll.
@bobwillis3023
@bobwillis3023 3 жыл бұрын
He was an important figure in our history, he should be remembered as what he was and is. An English monarch.
@made-line7627
@made-line7627 3 жыл бұрын
@Murray David Both Henry and the Catholic Church committed atrocities
@timmo491
@timmo491 3 жыл бұрын
He didnt like Catholics. But then who does?
@donallally4892
@donallally4892 3 жыл бұрын
Henry the 8th was a brutal, Cruel and Evil man
@djmpvae27091978
@djmpvae27091978 3 жыл бұрын
Donal Lally exactly.
@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643
@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643 3 жыл бұрын
His main creation, the anglican church, is still existing.
@sayitlikeitis5026
@sayitlikeitis5026 3 жыл бұрын
He was a despot. The historian Tracy Borman argues that during his reign, England was basically a totalitarian state.
@donallally4892
@donallally4892 3 жыл бұрын
In fairness to him he wasn't alone in his evil ways, the way people were tortured in Dungeons, burned at the stake, the way there arms were torn from them and so on, but he was truly evil and rotten to the core of his being, Donie
@stefos6431
@stefos6431 3 жыл бұрын
@@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643 It's a fake church......no wonder the Puritans left England
@umarabdullah5510
@umarabdullah5510 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever I think about how bad I have it I can listen to the depiction of an execution during Tudor times on Untold History and I instantly feel like I have it pretty good!
@alhilford2345
@alhilford2345 3 жыл бұрын
This story relates only one incident of those times. There were approximately 800 monasteries, abbeys, and priories in England at the time, not to mention the churches. Henry, and his daughter Elizabeth, ordered the dissolution, ransacking and looting of them all, taking anything of value for the Crown, and distributing the buildings and land to Henry's supporters. Anyone visiting England and admiring those wonderful cathedrals, property of the Church of England, should be aware that they were paid for and built by Catholics.
@KempSimon
@KempSimon 3 жыл бұрын
What are you rambling on about? The Monasteries were dissolved between 1536 and 1540. Elizabeth I did not become Queen until 1558. At least get your basic facts right before putting finger to keypad.
@alhilford2345
@alhilford2345 3 жыл бұрын
@@KempSimon : You're right, and I stand corrected. It was Henry, working on an idea from Cromwell, who realized how much loot he could get by confiscating the land, buildings, furnishings even the clothing of the Catholic clergy.
@elizabethspedding1975
@elizabethspedding1975 3 жыл бұрын
I think they were very brave. Thank-you for another piece of interesting history.
@sayitlikeitis5026
@sayitlikeitis5026 3 жыл бұрын
These men would likely just have lived out their remaining days in quiet solitude and prayer. They were not happy with Henry's reformation and the dissolution of the monasteries but in likelihood, they posed no real threat. Henry's treatment of these humble men was appalling and monstrous.
@benedict_323
@benedict_323 3 жыл бұрын
Some of these victims form part of the forty martyrs of England and Wales. Who were beatified by LEO XIII in 1886 and canonised by Paul VI in 1970. Thank you for the consise history on these saints. I hope you will consider doing the other 40 martyrs of England and Wales.
@TheUntoldPast
@TheUntoldPast 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely! Making my way through some more videos on these martyrs.
@richrumble
@richrumble 3 жыл бұрын
Holy Carthusian martyrs, orate pro nobis.
@mmiller4569
@mmiller4569 3 жыл бұрын
Do you intend to cover the over two hundred martyrs burnt at the stake during the Marian persecutions?
@benedict_323
@benedict_323 3 жыл бұрын
@@mmiller4569 Mary I of England, tried her best in limited time to reverse protestant heresy, with great courage and conviction.
@quentinquentin6752
@quentinquentin6752 3 жыл бұрын
@@mmiller4569 anyone killing anyone else because of the different view on religion is unacceptable to me as a Christian. Christ will not hold me guiltless. I think that what this shows is the troubled road that Henry in all his brutality took us down. Having started on this road the way back was almost impossible. He set in train the brutal repression that was to mark the next 300 years in British religious life. The unbelievably sick way the Irish Catholic’s were allowed to starve to death in the Great Famine, when they were our fellow countrymen, is for me the final plot twist in what began under Henry. The hatred for catholic’s went so deep that almost 100 years after the enlightenment, in arguably the richest country on the planet at that time, we British allowed over 1,000,000 of our fellow countrymen to die of starvation is a horrid fact. Consider if this famine had occurred in one of the states in the USA. It is inconceivable that a million people would be permitted to starve to death whilst the other states looked on and did practically nothing. But it happened here. And what’s more, it’s not like we could claim geographically it was all so far away, an argument one could make if this was to have happened in the USA. At least they would have the benefit of saying “our country is so vast!!!” Our country was tiny by comparison. Make no mistake, hsd the irish embraced protestantism this woukd not hsbe been allowed to happen but they were catholics. Apologies for going off on this tangent but I see the seeds of Henry’s planting in the final death throes of over 1 million of our own countrymen 3 centuries later. Still want to discuss the 200 killed under Mary?
@hrhbucket4268
@hrhbucket4268 3 жыл бұрын
The only consolation I get from this is that Henry VIII is now judged and has met his just reward. Evil bastard.
@justaroundthecorner2883
@justaroundthecorner2883 3 жыл бұрын
HRH Bucket: Nothing changes, fear of death is a great persuader. As you say , he was an evil bastard, an absolute nobody without his henchman in tow.
@oldgysgt
@oldgysgt 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of real bad crap has happened over the last 100,000 years, but wringing our hands about it now won't change any of it.
@nicholas8428
@nicholas8428 3 жыл бұрын
It’s absolutely terrifying & mind boggling to think 🤔 that all of this horrific murdering bloodlust insanity was completely normal🤯⁉️
@StanSwan
@StanSwan 3 жыл бұрын
It was very common really. We live in a very unique time where every life is valued by the majority of people. There were no prisons people were put to death for trivial crimes.
@nigel900
@nigel900 3 жыл бұрын
And now we are witnessing the beginning of a new “normalization” under the guise of political “social justice”, that will make this pale in contrast.
@StanSwan
@StanSwan 3 жыл бұрын
@@nigel900 Who is being put to death in the name of social justice?
@nigel900
@nigel900 3 жыл бұрын
@@StanSwan Freedom and Liberty.
@StanSwan
@StanSwan 3 жыл бұрын
@@nigel900 Your liberty stops where it takes away another person's liberty.
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 3 жыл бұрын
Henry 8 and Stalin should’ve had a beer together. 2 likeminded individuals.
@choughed3072
@choughed3072 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure an absolute monarch would get on with a communist to be honest.
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 3 жыл бұрын
@@choughed3072 Think about it, Henny would say, “ hey, I tortured and murdered hundreds of my people.” Ole Stally would respond, “ Well, I killed millions!” Then Henny says, “ did you disown any of your family members?” Then Stalky says, “ yes, 1”. Henny would reply” I disowned 5”. Then they would agree to a drink and have a night of historical crossover debauchery! See?
@ringo1692
@ringo1692 3 жыл бұрын
They don't deserve any beer, let them drink piss
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 3 жыл бұрын
@@ringo1692 lmao
@patriot03062
@patriot03062 3 жыл бұрын
You can include Kim Yong Un of North Korea also while he lets his people starve
@georgyjose7881
@georgyjose7881 3 жыл бұрын
Dear carthusian saints pray for me and the whole world
@shafur3
@shafur3 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@Oswaldoo
@Oswaldoo 5 ай бұрын
Amém
@erikamoore6164
@erikamoore6164 3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that Henry's daughter Mary has become known as "Bloody Mary" for all the people she had executed, when both Henry and Elizabeth I had many, many more people killed in horrible ways than Mary ever did.
@islandblind
@islandblind 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Mary I didn't reign for as long as either her father or her sister, but you're right. They were every bit as brutal as "Bloody Mary," if not more so. Part of the issue is that much of our history is seen through an English Protestant "lens." It would be just as valid to speak of Elizabeth I as "Bloody Bess." instead of "Good Queen Bess."
@paulbrowne3033
@paulbrowne3033 3 жыл бұрын
Mary is not guilty of the dissolution of the monostries and more heinous crime of gross vandalism of artifacts works of art etc which even from a non religious modern perspective exemplified the tyrant he was the early reformation period needs to be seen for what it was a land grab by nobles and others where the poor suffered most!
@sarahdewson6352
@sarahdewson6352 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, but being a man it was probably expected from him
@rohansrider
@rohansrider 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulbrowne3033 Very well said.
@paulbrowne3033
@paulbrowne3033 3 жыл бұрын
@Murray David In regards the reformation at this particular early period I don't think the Catholic Church was guilty of the same destruction Henry 8th iniated who regarded himself doctrinlly Catholic he still believed in "Transubstaion" as opposed to "Consubstanion" a tenet of Prostanism I believe? Yes the Spanish had driven the Moors from Spain in their view a form of crusade, different from the aggression imposed on what was still a majority Catholic country as was most of western Europe early mid 16th century. Thanks for the reply! Please forgive some of the spelling!
@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595
@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595 3 жыл бұрын
I have to wonder if King Henry's brutality was in part the result of third stage syphilis. The brain is slowly consumed by the bacterium leading to mental instability. In no way do I offer this as an "excuse" for King Henry's behaviour.
@luciuscorneliussulla5182
@luciuscorneliussulla5182 3 жыл бұрын
What about those who supported him, did his bidding and carried out these actions? Let's face it. Human beings are wicked.
@Josh-rn1em
@Josh-rn1em 3 жыл бұрын
The syphilis probably contributed to an already evil man.
@Stoogewriter
@Stoogewriter 3 жыл бұрын
Also the 2 jousting accidents. They happened in the area of the brain where the emotions are.
@nadyarossi5102
@nadyarossi5102 3 жыл бұрын
@@Josh-rn1em I agree with you 100%.
@LRBerry
@LRBerry 3 жыл бұрын
Another wonderfully put together video covering a brutal part of our history. Thank you.
@TheUntoldPast
@TheUntoldPast 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment Lee!
@wfcoaker1398
@wfcoaker1398 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Anglican and it amuses me how my church has torn itself apart over same sex marriage. Given the role that Henry the Whoremonger plays in our history, what right does the Anglican Church have to pontificate about sexual "purity"?
@beckyfarley60
@beckyfarley60 3 жыл бұрын
No MAN on earth has the right to judge another we are ALL going to be judged, and there is NO one person on this earth that has the right or authority to judge another. Nor can they absolve anyone either.
@brendanryan1852
@brendanryan1852 3 жыл бұрын
@@beckyfarley60 Well that makes absolutely no sense what so ever .
@brendanryan1852
@brendanryan1852 3 жыл бұрын
There is logos and antilogos , Ordered and disordered in everything .What makes us feel good is no indication whatsoever as to wether it's is good for us or not. Christ dying , torn to pieces with a bloody crown of thorns did not in anyway feel good . But it extracted the ultimate order out of the ultimate disorder . We were given this supreme example by God as a map for each of us to extract the ultimate meaning from , and to transform the inevitable suffering and crosses in life into Glory. We are born into death and we die into life . When the logos is taken out of sex the person is separated from the Father profoundly. A society that celebrates such is soon enough going to collapse in chaos . The forces of Antichrist or antilogos will tell you you don't need to carry any cross ,that suffering is worthless and meaningless and there is no need to transform Christ like . You are grand the way you are.The viserol anger of people when their sexual deviancy is highlighted is off the charts . Purity , chastity , faithfulness is now considered antisocial behavior and an impossibility for most. All of course lies from the Father of lies .
@beckyfarley60
@beckyfarley60 3 жыл бұрын
@@brendanryan1852 God is the only one that can judge us, each of us are too sinful and have no right to judge another, I don't know why with all you said on this topic you find my comment confusing.
@brendanryan1852
@brendanryan1852 3 жыл бұрын
@@beckyfarley60 The word judgement has be distorted and weaponised by the left ,freemasons such as Saulalinsky and the likes who hate the church and use church language , teachings in a corrupted way to attack it .This is hugely effective on low information Catholics and christians in general.. The judgement you are referring to is the hipocritical judgement. Where one is doing exactly what he accuses the other off . Thats not what we have here .We are all called to used our judgement (discernment)illuminated by faith and doctrine ( of the church fathers, magisterium) everyday ,in just about everything. Christ himself tells us to look at the sign of the times , that is what we should be doing. Christ himself said that he did not come to change the law , one jot , but to fulfill it . Sodemy is one of the four sins in scripture that cries out to heaven for vengeance. Therefore In day to day life where it's held up as a virtue, I judge it immoral and will protect my son's from been influenced by the culture that promotes it . This battle is taking place in the highest ranks of the Vatican today . Where else and what else would Satan be doing but subverting logos ? It's all out spiritual warfare.
@vanessathomas7437
@vanessathomas7437 3 жыл бұрын
That's WHY Henry Vlll suffered like he did, his body rotting from the inside out, before his death.
@morgangallowglass8668
@morgangallowglass8668 3 жыл бұрын
And to think, folks blather about how bad Richard III was. Henry VIII was a complete butt nugget.
@timmo491
@timmo491 3 жыл бұрын
He didnt like the Pope fair enough. The Catholic church cannot point a finger on any question of unjustified barbarity.
@deangirl2286
@deangirl2286 3 жыл бұрын
I might steal butt nugget . Loved that
@morgangallowglass8668
@morgangallowglass8668 3 жыл бұрын
@@deangirl2286 , my pleasure.
@ARISUinW0NDERLAND
@ARISUinW0NDERLAND 3 жыл бұрын
@@deangirl2286 same here!
@janisbentzen4503
@janisbentzen4503 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Henry nows suffers in hell and the monks are in heaven with getting their eternal rewards. And Henry's death was quite painful too.
@timmullens9479
@timmullens9479 3 жыл бұрын
I do not believe in your christianity ,heaven ,hell but I do believe in evil -Henry embodied evil.
@crazywazydoublehazy
@crazywazydoublehazy 3 жыл бұрын
Religious souls at their best, steadfastly and courageously defying evil. Nothing angers an evil person more than someone who is fearless before their threats and who refuses to acknowledge their authority.
@alexandervaltsev6937
@alexandervaltsev6937 3 жыл бұрын
Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world, grant them peace
@kirkmorrison6131
@kirkmorrison6131 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 3 жыл бұрын
Your taking the piss right ! This was ALL done in the name of your delusional god
@mallon201
@mallon201 3 жыл бұрын
@@gowdsake7103 It was done in the name of the manufactured church of Henry 'the church of england', so that that evil tyrant could have his own way re multiple marriages and a male heir, whilst conveniently enriching himself with the confiscated property and land of all religious orders.
@bwyyy7306
@bwyyy7306 3 жыл бұрын
They should remove Henry’s remains and dump then in a swamp somewhere
@dominiqueechevarria1889
@dominiqueechevarria1889 3 жыл бұрын
HE WILL GET WHAT HE DESERVES
@JorgenRomeMojo
@JorgenRomeMojo 3 жыл бұрын
Or litter them in down a portable loo in a consruction yard somehwere so they will be shited on again and again.
@dominiqueechevarria1889
@dominiqueechevarria1889 3 жыл бұрын
@@JorgenRomeMojo revenge is sweet HE was a piece of SHIT anyway.he rotted alive you know GOD HAS A WAY OF DEALING WITH THE WICKED
@phillipecook3227
@phillipecook3227 3 жыл бұрын
A sewer more like.
@Austin8thGenTexan
@Austin8thGenTexan 3 жыл бұрын
Henry died, then went straight to hell and its fire... 🔥
@msw0011
@msw0011 3 жыл бұрын
Man’s inhumanity to Man continues, even today. Merciful God, Lord and Savior of All that is Good and Holy, lift the veil from our eyes so that we may see. Amen
@josephgonzales1815
@josephgonzales1815 3 жыл бұрын
These saints are a gift of God to the Roman Catholic Church. We do not condone the brutality of Henry VIII but give thanks to God who gave these men the grace to endure extreme martyrdom.
@Austin8thGenTexan
@Austin8thGenTexan 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically, not just the R C church.
@Me2Lancer
@Me2Lancer 3 жыл бұрын
Brutal savagery seems to be a trademark for Henry VIII.
@KempSimon
@KempSimon 3 жыл бұрын
The first King of England who didn't burn any of his subjects alive as hereticks was King Charles I. In fact, nobody was deliberately executed for crimes of a political or a religious nature during his troubled reign. The Roundheads might have lost their ears (forcing them to grow their hair long, like Cavaliers) but without exception they kept their heads. It was Charles Stewart, King and Martyr, who lost his.
@sayitlikeitis5026
@sayitlikeitis5026 3 жыл бұрын
Of all the atrocities committed during Henry VIII's reign, this was surely one of the most egregious.
@nigel900
@nigel900 3 жыл бұрын
Brace yourselves. I see history doomed to repeat itself...
@therealunclevanya
@therealunclevanya 3 жыл бұрын
it doesn't repeat, but, it rhymes (Mark Twain ... maybe)
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 3 жыл бұрын
Very much so
@June-tb4vi
@June-tb4vi 3 жыл бұрын
Look what happened to people set to testify against clinton...
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 3 жыл бұрын
@@June-tb4vi pretty much. Then Comey read a litany of felonies she committed and said No problem.
@kevinkral4568
@kevinkral4568 3 жыл бұрын
It's a wretched winter day here in The Corn Zone. Time to re-watch every single one of these! Regards, Kev
@kennedymprah3172
@kennedymprah3172 3 жыл бұрын
Eat and sleep aswell
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 3 жыл бұрын
Raining in Coleman Tx.
@AL_YZ
@AL_YZ 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Henry succeeded magnificently. Practically the entire population went from being Catholic to Anglican without a whimper. He and his supporters became incredibly wealthy due to the massive confiscation of the Church's assets. He created his own personal church. HIS Personal Church, now called the Church of England/Anglican church, remains the official state church to this day. The Anglican communion is spread throughout the world. He incited England's own "Cultural Revolution" and unlike Mao, the changes were permanent despite attempts to reverse it. Of course, much of England's pre-reformation heritage, libraries and treasures were destroyed but people don't miss what have been obliterated and forgotten. All made possible by making examples of a handful of people. Whoever said that evil and killing and terror do not work?
@alhilford2345
@alhilford2345 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, they didn't become Anglican without a wimper. Most people wanted to stay Catholic, but Elizabeth's Parliament passed a law forcing everyone to attend the Sunday Protestant church services. Non-compliance with this law resulted in ever-increasing fines and eventually prison. Catholics had to decide whether to go the Protestant service or see their families starve to death!
@allanbagshaw2797
@allanbagshaw2797 3 жыл бұрын
Not of the axe Boleyn was killed by a french swordsman
@amethyst5538
@amethyst5538 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it takes more courage to stand for what you believe in. At least Henry VIII has been judged and tried in the afterlife. Poor souls, life is not fair.
@peteryoxen4485
@peteryoxen4485 3 жыл бұрын
Amethyst Blackstone Many of the monastic communities were corrupt and engaged in,let's say,otherworldliness,many simply took the coin from pilgrims.However,there were also many communities which practiced austerities and along with a healing touch.
@amethyst5538
@amethyst5538 3 жыл бұрын
@@peteryoxen4485 Somethings don't change, *coughs* Kenneth Copland. 🤥
@brettswierczewski223
@brettswierczewski223 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your channel as I find this period of English history absolutely fascinating. Great work and thank you!
@Miss65boo
@Miss65boo 3 жыл бұрын
And they call his daughter Mary "Bloody"! Henry was far, far worse. I hope he is rotting in hell.
@m41incanis
@m41incanis 3 жыл бұрын
When we condemn the Saudis, we forget how utterly brutal our rulers were.
@joycejames8461
@joycejames8461 3 жыл бұрын
This is what happens anywhere when religion is used for political control. It's a very old trick and sadly it's still being used today.
@roeazy
@roeazy 3 жыл бұрын
@@joycejames8461 um what are you talking about? The true followers are the victims here. This is power being used to subdue the religious.
@joycejames8461
@joycejames8461 3 жыл бұрын
@@roeazy That was my thought, if religion is used for political control (which it frequently is) it can be used to subdue anyone, believers and non believers alike.
@roeazy
@roeazy 3 жыл бұрын
@@joycejames8461 im just tired people using political use of religion to try to discredit the core beliefs of the religion eventhough the religious suffer under these evil powers as well
@sarahdewson6352
@sarahdewson6352 3 жыл бұрын
True, but for us this is history whereas many live with this as current lifestyle in places like the Middle East
@hullhistorynerd
@hullhistorynerd 3 жыл бұрын
We had a Carthusian charterhouse in Hull, it mostly survived the dissolution as part of the building was classed as a hospital rather than a monastery. Only the actual priory was destroyed. The original building is gone, but it was replaced by a new charterhouse in the 16th century, and then again in the 18th, which still stands as an almshouse today!
@jfd12gubs45x
@jfd12gubs45x 3 жыл бұрын
What an evil King. I wonder why they didn't try to flee the country. May the souls of the holy monks rest in eternal peace
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 3 жыл бұрын
When Henry took over the church there was about 20 Catholic bishops. Only one stood up to him. St. John Fisher
@mudgebauer
@mudgebauer 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what Henry is doing today and where is he these days? On the other side? In a place known as hell? Reincarnated again and again? I hope he got what he deserved.
@atmakali9599
@atmakali9599 3 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about the torture and burning of the Cathars .
@Johnnycdrums
@Johnnycdrums 3 жыл бұрын
The Cather Heresy is complicated, it started around 1198, if I remember correctly, and the first of the official inquisitions, which later lead to The Holy Office Of The Inquisition. The Church stepped in because roving mobs were going around accusing just about anyone of heresy and throwing the accused on huge bonfires. Was in the area of the Lombard? I don't think England was involved in this one
@janstan8407
@janstan8407 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas Moore said, and this is not a joke, about the heretics HE had burned at the stake, "They were all well done". (meaning as the law allowed). But it sounds pretty sick.
@TheUntoldPast
@TheUntoldPast 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like he's referring to a steak.
@uptonsavoie
@uptonsavoie 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas More never burned a heretic at the stake. In his seminal and thorough work "Thomas More", R.W. Chambers (himself a lifelong Protestant) devotes eight pages to refuting the various calumnies against More, beginning "A further series of charges turns upon More's alleged cruelty to heretics; and it would have been well if More's critics had (in Roper's phrase) 'wisely weighed and considered' these charges." Chambers also devotes some space to the matter of the Carthusians.
@michaelnewton1332
@michaelnewton1332 3 жыл бұрын
I bet you believe the lies of Richard Rich, who, hopefully, is burning in the fires of Hell song with Henry the 8th.
@janstan8407
@janstan8407 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelnewton1332 No, I was just going by sources I'd read. I liked the movie and play "A Man For All Seasons" too. And yeah, Richard Rich was a turd, but aren't all politicians?
@davidscoggins638
@davidscoggins638 3 жыл бұрын
Your making me smarter. Thanks
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 3 жыл бұрын
You’re
@corncrackerkid5092
@corncrackerkid5092 3 жыл бұрын
And it’s videos like this that has me thank my lucky stars as a Catholic convert to be born in the US in the modern era, my family was in England at the time and includes John Calvert the Lord Baltimore who famously converted and founded the Maryland colony for fellow Catholics. I’m not condoning what she did in any way but I can understand why Mary was so bitter during her reign. She saw her fellow Catholics literally butchered just for being Catholics by her father as a young woman and I’m very sure she feared she would receive the same fate be it by her father or her own subjects.
@denicesanders4586
@denicesanders4586 3 жыл бұрын
Well, her sister didn't do her any good.
@sayitlikeitis5026
@sayitlikeitis5026 3 жыл бұрын
Mary deserved her reputation, just as much as her bloodthirsty father deserved his. I don't think her own misfortunes gave her any moral authority to persecute innocent people.
@WoodynVA
@WoodynVA 3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent illustration of why I don't see how anyone can belong to the "Church " of England .
@saintlysylas
@saintlysylas 3 жыл бұрын
This entire sentence should be in the past tense.
@WoodynVA
@WoodynVA 3 жыл бұрын
@@saintlysylas why?
@saintlysylas
@saintlysylas 3 жыл бұрын
@@WoodynVA Obviously, the aforementioned topics of the video happen every day, right?
@WoodynVA
@WoodynVA 3 жыл бұрын
@@saintlysylas I was referring to how the CofE got its start. I realize they aren't burning monks today.
@simongardiner949
@simongardiner949 3 жыл бұрын
Should see "St. Hughes Charterhouse" in Cowfold, Sussex. Her LIVING Carthusians lived as described here. They were a true and living witness of Christ.
@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643
@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643 3 жыл бұрын
When you brake up with Rome, you’re not a catholic anymore.
@bruceparr1678
@bruceparr1678 3 жыл бұрын
Why is that. The Catholic Church still recognizes Anglican sacraments.
@alhilford2345
@alhilford2345 3 жыл бұрын
@@bruceparr1678 : The Anglican church has only one Sacrament, Baptism, and the Catholic Church will recognize it if it has been applied using the correct formula.
@bruceparr1678
@bruceparr1678 3 жыл бұрын
@@alhilford2345 ?. The Anglican Church has seven sacraments. My recently deceased Dad received the seventh (Extreme Unction) on 05/02/2021. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglican_sacraments
@navy4735
@navy4735 5 ай бұрын
@@bruceparr1678 heretics and heresy, the head of that church is the corrupt king of England etc....none of the sacraments are valid since the fat pig Henry the 8th....
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 3 жыл бұрын
Many of the paintings of them shown here were produced in Spain, where they were seen as martyrs at the hands of a heretical tyrant.
@teambridgebsc691
@teambridgebsc691 3 жыл бұрын
Please remember, these godly men were executed not for their faith in God but for their refusal to acknowledge that any other than the Pope may exercise God's authority.
@teambridgebsc691
@teambridgebsc691 3 жыл бұрын
@Maxx Kroes LOL - sorry you never got the magic pony you always wanted.
@alhilford2345
@alhilford2345 3 жыл бұрын
@@teambridgebsc691 : They were executed because they would not sign a document stating that the king was the Supreme Head of the Church in England, and that everyone must belong to the same religion. Would you be willing to sign a document stating that the President of the USA is the Supreme Head of the Church in US? (But perhaps you would!)
@teambridgebsc691
@teambridgebsc691 3 жыл бұрын
@@alhilford2345 : If I was a US citizen then I'd feel morally obliged to consider the ramifications. Then, as a patriotic US citizen, and feeling that the President had my nation's best interest at heart under God, then perhaps I might. I say perhaps, because it is not until tested during the temper of the time that we learn which way we jump.
@donallally4892
@donallally4892 3 жыл бұрын
God they got a terrible and dreadful ending, which was totally undeserved and monstrously cruel and brutal. God bless them, Requiset In Pace, Donie
@barbaralucas1220
@barbaralucas1220 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. Crazy about history. Tragic but interesting at the same time.
@alexasmachine
@alexasmachine 3 жыл бұрын
The KING suffered a brain injury whilst jousting being hit by his opponent he fell off his horse and the horse rolled over him, it was shortly after his accident that he became a tyrant. I can say from experience as I suffer from a brain injury too obtained in a auto accident in 07.
@janisbentzen4503
@janisbentzen4503 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! As an ER nurse, l have seen personality changes post brain trauma...
@pauljurgen-romrig9616
@pauljurgen-romrig9616 3 жыл бұрын
Executed and put to death are pretty much the same thing.
@KempSimon
@KempSimon 3 жыл бұрын
That's just what I was thinking! Moreover, it's quite hard to kill a healthy human being in ways which aren't "brutal" or "horrific" - as William Kemmler, who made history in his own little way by becoming the first person to die by judicial electrocution, and taking all of five minutes to expire amidst the sickening stench of burning flesh, would no doubt testify - apart from maybe confining the condemned criminal in an airtight cell and gradually pumping it full of carbon monoxide whilst (s)he was fast asleep at night!
@25simonball
@25simonball 3 жыл бұрын
If you are going to make a video, get your facts right. Anne Boleyn did not die on the edge of a bloody axe, she was beheaded by a French swordsman.
@KempSimon
@KempSimon 3 жыл бұрын
Only one of the very many errors of fact contained in these videos which would be obvious to a child studying GCSE History at school!
@geowynleda4641
@geowynleda4641 3 жыл бұрын
Did King Syphilitic Gutbucket have any redeeming qualities?
@Italy55
@Italy55 3 жыл бұрын
No
@BigHenFor
@BigHenFor 3 жыл бұрын
It depends where you stand. If you believe that the blood relationship between the Papacy and the various monarchs of Europe was neutral. Then no. But, if you believed that the Papacy acted in a way to impact the political arrangements in the various nations it claimed spiritual primacy, by controlling land and vast wealth, then any king of a fairly new dynasty would see the influence of the Church as being problematic. Not only had the Papacy taken sides in the wars between England and France, but their rules got in the way of Henry securing a heir. So, politically and economically, the Catholic Church's influence over his subjects was a barrier to Henry's ambitions.
@mallon201
@mallon201 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigHenFor 'Their rules got in the way of Henry securing an heir', that was the bottom line, the one thing that brought about all this savagery, bloodshed and theft, or was it Henrys excuse to get away with leading a life of debauchery, murder and theft. Plenty of his ancestors weren't able to secure an heir, they didn't react in the way he did, it's just a feeble excuse used to describe the behaviour of 'one greedy bastard', to put it in layman's terms. He wasn't satisfied with being King, he wanted more, he needed more wealth, so he set about taking it from others.
@chrissibersky4617
@chrissibersky4617 3 жыл бұрын
Great channel. Straight to the point and vere well narrated. Do one about Vasily Blokhin. It should fit well on this channel and I have noticed that no one (outside of Poland) has heard of him.
@knightowl3577
@knightowl3577 3 жыл бұрын
A brutal king in a brutal age all across Europe, much thought was put into new ways of torture and execution and all because of religion.
@myguitardidyermom212
@myguitardidyermom212 3 жыл бұрын
Hope Henry repented and made peace before he died.
@Chipoo88
@Chipoo88 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Only one of his queens was executed by axe, Katherine Howard. Anne Boleyn was executed by sword
@stevenleslie8557
@stevenleslie8557 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt Anne had witnessed some botched beheadings and feared this greatly. The King was persuaded to bring in a professional swordsman in from France to do the deed (that was kind of him 🤔). After Anne was blind folded, the swordsman asked someone to hand him his sword. Not knowing the executioner already had his sword, Anne's head was immediately parted from her body.
@rogerdickinson920
@rogerdickinson920 3 жыл бұрын
A distant relative of Donald Trump, his wife melanoma could be the descendent of Bloody Mary...almost.
@tenpercentfordabigguy8550
@tenpercentfordabigguy8550 3 жыл бұрын
I never knew Henry executed up to 57000 people . Mostly barbarically.
@darkfoxjj
@darkfoxjj Жыл бұрын
I have seen wallpaintings of this when I was 12yo inside the charterhouse near cowfield/henfield. The monks living there and the painting made a big impression on me.
@tulsaguy9963
@tulsaguy9963 3 жыл бұрын
He sold the monastery lands and funded the University at Cambridge!
@SuperIliad
@SuperIliad 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I suggest to all in Great Britain (or anywhere) the reading of “Characters of the Reformation” by Hilaire Belloc, published 1936 and again in print. It will explain to you much about how the British were robbed of their Catholic heritage and faith, and by whom and through what circumstances.
@tommcconville4270
@tommcconville4270 3 жыл бұрын
Very perceptive point of view John. The Irish, Scots and Welsh were indeed also robbed of their devout Catholic faith. I have ancestry of Irish, Welsh and Scottish, and also English and German. Some of my ancestors were Anglican as well as Catholic. The REAL truth of the matter was that Henry the Eighth usurped the Holy Catholic Faith and created the Anglican Church for his own evil purposes, and to position himself as an absolute despot to rule England and the whole of the British Isles. He persecuted Catholics with an unholy server, likened to holding a double edged sword to throats of the faithful martyrs, proclaiming their allegiance to Christ and His Holy Church
@tommcconville4270
@tommcconville4270 3 жыл бұрын
The word is ferver, this phone once again plays it's silly word tricks! My sincere apologies.
@SuperIliad
@SuperIliad 3 жыл бұрын
@@tommcconville4270 Thank you. No slight intended to the Irish, Scots and Welsh; this could be extended to almost the whole of Europe.
@tommcconville4270
@tommcconville4270 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperIliad Yes, I certainly agree with that.
@alhilford2345
@alhilford2345 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperIliad : Yes. Belloc's book is excellent. See also "A History of the Protestant Reformation in England and Ireland" by William Corbett, written in 1824 and still in print, and "The Stripping of the Altars" by Eamon Duffy, 1992. Robert Hugh Benson has some wonderful fiction on that period. But, the sad fact is that most people here don't want to know the truth!
@garethjudd5840
@garethjudd5840 3 жыл бұрын
How many Millions have died because of religion?
@luna_peace4225
@luna_peace4225 3 жыл бұрын
Too many to count the scale is broken
@teddawg327
@teddawg327 3 жыл бұрын
brutal time
@ajblundell
@ajblundell 3 жыл бұрын
arnt human beings lovely, What is evil is the people that actually carried it out, how savage has your mind got to be to cut apart a human purely for his believes, and we try to preach to the world on how to treat there citizens!!
@johnrowe3192
@johnrowe3192 3 жыл бұрын
I love your stuff! Thanks for the info very educational! Love and peace to all!
@mauricedavis2160
@mauricedavis2160 3 жыл бұрын
Britain are you really proud of this tyrant, what a piece of work!!!👼🙏
@KempSimon
@KempSimon 3 жыл бұрын
Had the treacherous Stanleys not changed sides, and had the cowardly Earl of Northumberland not run away, during the Battle of Bosworth Field, history would have turned out very differently. Henry VIII was King of England (which by then included Wales) and Lord of Ireland. "Britain" did not exist until 1707.
@FRAGIORGIO1
@FRAGIORGIO1 3 жыл бұрын
I understand his problem with his search for a male heir, but this horror was completely gratuitous
@sayitlikeitis5026
@sayitlikeitis5026 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced that his desire for a male heir and a second wife was Henry's sole motivation for the reformation. Even after Anne Boleyn was executed, he continued to pursue his religious policies ruthlessly and rigorously. It seems quite clear that he enjoyed the absolute power that came with being head of the English Church.
@FRAGIORGIO1
@FRAGIORGIO1 3 жыл бұрын
@@sayitlikeitis5026 -- You seem to have a correct view of the Madness that soon took over Hentry in his pretensions.
@MarlboroughBlenheim1
@MarlboroughBlenheim1 Жыл бұрын
They committed treason as the law stood at the time and were punished accordingly by the standards of the day.
@timmo491
@timmo491 3 жыл бұрын
A great reforming King who set England and the British on a path to world domination. Cool guy.
@glennsepulveda4856
@glennsepulveda4856 3 жыл бұрын
Henry the VIII was The King Herod of his time, both were brutal savages and both had suffered gruesome endings..afflicted with horrible diseases in the final stages of their wretched lives!..I wonder were their unfortunate souls wander..
@laurafedora5385
@laurafedora5385 3 жыл бұрын
Henry VIII was a monster
@Sobig315-k7k
@Sobig315-k7k 3 жыл бұрын
Who were the executioners? Special breed of nutcases or part of a team of men?
@RICKRATT1
@RICKRATT1 3 жыл бұрын
My family were stripped of their lands, positions and wealth and exiled to Maryland. They were recusant Catholics who wouldn't give up their faith, it cost them but they survived.
@alhilford2345
@alhilford2345 3 жыл бұрын
They were heroes!
@VincentMMoore0
@VincentMMoore0 3 жыл бұрын
May 4th: Carthusian Martyrs, pray for us!
@BT2RC
@BT2RC 3 жыл бұрын
What is obvious is that there must have been a large part of the population that took great delight in torturing and executing these monks, on behalf of the King. Not too much different today.
@hullhistorynerd
@hullhistorynerd 3 жыл бұрын
Also wow, congratulations on the massive growth on your channel! It's well deserved and good to see your hard work getting some recognition!
@TheUntoldPast
@TheUntoldPast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! You're too kind!
@michaelmcdonell2714
@michaelmcdonell2714 3 жыл бұрын
And they now stand next to the Thrown of God , where do you think Henry V111 and His followers are .
@donm-tv8cm
@donm-tv8cm 3 жыл бұрын
Henry VIII had no kindness, charity, or mercy on display during his brutal reign. He was a beast of a man. He ruined countless lives, even setting things up for more barbarity for many years after his death, having given us Bloody Mary and Elizabeth I, who both had their own legacies of blood and charred flesh. The sad thing is that he somehow considered himself a devout Christian to the end. smh.
@Hilts931
@Hilts931 3 жыл бұрын
Anne Boleyn was famously beheaded by a specially imported French sword, not an axe. Really enjoy watching your videos - incredibly dark times
@Kitiwake
@Kitiwake 3 жыл бұрын
He had the bishop Glastonbury and many priests and monks hung drawn and quartered and ordered the monastery to be destroyed. I can't understand a music festival being held in such a sad place.
@KempSimon
@KempSimon 3 жыл бұрын
It was Thomas Cromwell who had the Blessed Richard Whiting, 57th and last Abbot of Glastonbury, hanged, drawn and quartered upon the nearby Tor. There was never a Cathedral in Glastonbury so it could not possibly have ever had a Bishop!
@irenabevans3411
@irenabevans3411 3 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness that freedom to choose one's, faith without dire consequences is now the norm & not subject to the egotistical whims of one person
@SometimeAgo65
@SometimeAgo65 3 жыл бұрын
His life was taken away at an early age...He thought he was God! We don't worship man, not even royalty and leaders but only the Lord God!
@darkfoxjj
@darkfoxjj Жыл бұрын
They made these strong innocent men martyrs
@Ripper36068
@Ripper36068 3 жыл бұрын
And all this could've been avoided if the Pope had granted him a divorce!
@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643
@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643 3 жыл бұрын
Or if Henry WIII had been a normal man.
@bgardiner3354
@bgardiner3354 3 жыл бұрын
Executing people for believing the wrong Imaginary friend... I love learning about religion
@Chipoo88
@Chipoo88 3 жыл бұрын
It’s how life was. religion didn’t just embody faith back then but education, the arts, social aspects, law etc. so you are not learning about religion but about life in the 16th century
@bgardiner3354
@bgardiner3354 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chipoo88 you say that like these things are no longer relevant... and they absolutely are. Less so with Christianity because our moral expectations are far more liberal thanks to the secular influence that would not even have been tolerated in those days. The church today is interpreting exactly the same information they did in the 1600's. It's just that the lens is different. Unfortunately in some countries and in some cultures this interpretation has not changed.
@janisbentzen4503
@janisbentzen4503 3 жыл бұрын
You are so sad, even if my God is not real, it's it better to live a life of peace, love and joy, than pain and turmoil. I would rather die for my God of love than live in your world of hate. 30 seconds after you die....you're going to meet Him.....
@bgardiner3354
@bgardiner3354 3 жыл бұрын
@@janisbentzen4503 go on believing what ur Mum and Dad told you to... do you remember the muppets... they looked like they had their own agency... but really it was just someone else's hand up their bum controlling them. The only way you can convince someone that god is real is to indoctrinate them as children... most, sound minded adults would never believe it. You need to grow up
@jamessheffield4173
@jamessheffield4173 3 жыл бұрын
Foxe's Book of Martyrs Foxe’s Book of Martyrs is a Christian classic recounting the lives of persecuted believers from the earliest days of the church until the time of the Protestant Reformation.
@janisbentzen4503
@janisbentzen4503 3 жыл бұрын
It continues today in the Middle East and other parts of the world but our useless press doesn't ever cover it. You have to look for stories.
@michailokeefeMooMoo
@michailokeefeMooMoo 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@kotabear151
@kotabear151 3 жыл бұрын
Thank God America chose a Republic instead of a monarchy! 😲
@twinsonic
@twinsonic 3 жыл бұрын
or Trump 😒
@denicesanders4586
@denicesanders4586 3 жыл бұрын
@@twinsonic or Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Clinton, swalwell, McConnell, Romney....
@johnrowe3192
@johnrowe3192 3 жыл бұрын
I am a long disance relative of Nicholas Rowe, poet laureate!
@alanmackinnon3516
@alanmackinnon3516 3 жыл бұрын
Just think how things would have been different if Richard the third had won at Bosworth.
@LtJackboot
@LtJackboot 3 жыл бұрын
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