The Tragic History of Isaiah Bradley [Falcon & Winter Soldier]

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Comic Drake

Comic Drake

3 жыл бұрын

As seen in Falcon & Winter Soldier on Disney+, Isaiah Bradley was a super soldier, but did you know that he was Captain America?!
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@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 3 жыл бұрын
We need a flashback of at least one episode dedicated to Isiah as Captain America and see the bar fight with The Winter Soldier.
@lucasshaver7789
@lucasshaver7789 3 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome. I wouldn't mind seeing a what if story of Isaiah Bradley being frozen instead of Steve Rogers and him waking up in the present day and leading The Avengers.
@inkdweller8584
@inkdweller8584 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasshaver7789 Could be awesome in a future what if comic or animated series
@forestfilms472
@forestfilms472 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they really need to do this, or make a isiah Bradley miniseries
@inkdweller8584
@inkdweller8584 3 жыл бұрын
Actually I have some fan art on my channel of Isaiah Bradley leading the Avengers but with my own twist
@wayfarinwanderer
@wayfarinwanderer 3 жыл бұрын
Marvel Studios should just bring back their “One-Shots” (short films) for Disney+ so we can get stuff about Young Isaiah Bradley or even Young Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne
@dragonsswarm1987
@dragonsswarm1987 3 жыл бұрын
A hero, even when the world didn't treat him like one.
@omerhussein5874
@omerhussein5874 3 жыл бұрын
failed to treat him like a human never mind a hero
@mr.knightthedetective7435
@mr.knightthedetective7435 3 жыл бұрын
That's when heroes truly start to become heroes, because heroes don't need praises. They make the big selfless sacrifices for us
@dragonsswarm1987
@dragonsswarm1987 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.knightthedetective7435 that doesn't apply to what happened to him, what was done to him was needlessly cruel.
@mr.knightthedetective7435
@mr.knightthedetective7435 3 жыл бұрын
@@dragonsswarm1987 I know, poor guy went through hell on US Governments expanse
@sheepwool7998
@sheepwool7998 3 жыл бұрын
This still happens to veterans to this day
@adamnaameeazim6365
@adamnaameeazim6365 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm being honest, as much as I'd love to see more of this character, having his comic book history being so short somehow makes everything around him feel even more poignant and hit you even harder. He's not some comic book superhero who died and came back from the dead a dozen times after fighting aliens and demon lords. He's a noble man who fought for what he believed in in spite of the racism, discrimination, the unjust world around him and the horrible things he had to endure. Isaiah Bradley deserves more love.
@bigstunna2049
@bigstunna2049 3 жыл бұрын
Yea it keeps his character real almost like it was a biopic
@avaranabraham8507
@avaranabraham8507 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact the actor who played Isaiah Bradley was the voice of Martian man hunter from justice league and justice league unlimited so he had a lot of experience working as super heroes
@iwasanangryyoungman
@iwasanangryyoungman 3 жыл бұрын
That actor - best known for his appearances in shows like Alias - also played The Martian Manhunter's own father in Supergirl. I guess his experience with the J'onn Jonzz character must have came in handy
@gon4953
@gon4953 11 ай бұрын
Very well known black all star
@todangtall
@todangtall 3 жыл бұрын
I remember randomly deciding to google "black Captain America" several years ago. Their where some minor details and a pretty decent synopsis of the character. But it's always nice to see someone do a proper deep dive on characters like this.
@Jonflame1
@Jonflame1 3 жыл бұрын
The KZbinr "Blerd Without Fear" also did a video on Isaiah a while back as well. You should check it out whenever you get the chance
@GenerationWest
@GenerationWest 3 жыл бұрын
Even though it's slightly different in the MCU, his origin is still messed up, in some parts worse. He was in the Korean War instead fighting The Winter Soldier, but instead of making him a hero, they lock him up longer than the comic, and make him a MCU Henrietta Lacks. What's even sadder, no one knows who he is or was in comparison. We're so getting Eli's Patriot later on, but would still love to see Carl Lumbly beat Bucky up in Korea in something.
@oezibanana8664
@oezibanana8664 3 жыл бұрын
Its waaaay different and more consistent with what the US gov actually did to black and brown people. They spell it out for you, that the US gov is just one of two Nazi groups in that war. Just not with the gaschambers.
@dominiquejones3805
@dominiquejones3805 5 ай бұрын
Beo said Henrietta Lacks! U know your history
@dominiquejones3805
@dominiquejones3805 5 ай бұрын
Swear I want a Isaiah Bradley special
@wilsonng994
@wilsonng994 3 ай бұрын
Well compared to what Isaiah went through plus the fact that he suffered severe brain damage and mentally regressed to a child due to the side effects of the serum that was used on him, at least what MCU Isaiah went through was somewhat tame but it was equally as worse as the what the comics Isaiah had to go through.
@prexp9026
@prexp9026 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious about the reaction of people when Isiah was first put to paper. People would most definitely have opinions on A black Captain America.
@katherinelynch4193
@katherinelynch4193 3 жыл бұрын
It’s probably the most controversial Captain America story ever published (yes, including the time he got turned into Hydra Cap). It’s got less to do with Isaiah’s blackness than with the horrors he went through. Captain America is supposed to symbolize America at its best, and confronting the ugliness of American racism within that framework was too much for some people. The worst part is a lot of those a-holes think they’ve won due to complicated copyright stuff keeping Isaiah out of the comics for a while now. Since he’s made it to the MCU, I can only assume it’s been sorted out.
@eldoug1589
@eldoug1589 3 жыл бұрын
It'd be one hell of a way to introduce mutants and Wolverine if they continue with the story. The Weapon X or Plus program started with Captain America and based on that success the military and government continues. Wolverine is a result of the 10th iteration of that program and Deadpool somewhere in between or after. There are so many screwed stories and characters that can be introduced along the way. At some point the Weapon X/Plus program introduces a weaponized religion which I don't think would ever show up on film but it'd a hell of a thing to see if it ever did.
@web3d221
@web3d221 3 жыл бұрын
@@eldoug1589 On top of that, it's revealed that the super soldier program's whole existence is due to the governments finding out about mutants and wanting to counter them with super powered individuals (from Grant Morrison's New X-Men)
@pious83
@pious83 3 жыл бұрын
@@eldoug1589 I really wish that Morrison's Weapon Plus thing hadn't been so widely adopted into canon. Marvel Comics Presents: Weapon X #72-84 is all the backstory that was ever needed. For the Weapon X program and Wolverine.
@gateauxq4604
@gateauxq4604 3 жыл бұрын
You know what the most radical move would be? To introduce the XMen without Wolverine. THAT would be a power move, also they would give other XMen some characterization aside from their abilities.
@awesomeblb3407
@awesomeblb3407 3 жыл бұрын
I like the realism but it also makes me sad
@forickgrimaldus8301
@forickgrimaldus8301 3 жыл бұрын
Whats weird here is that mustache madman actually talked to Bradly when the real one would have just killed him because well you know. Ironically the one Nsy who would probably do this is Bald Glasses Hymn who was the head of the SS as he said that, ah how should I put this without sounding like a wacko, that Airaness can be transferred to ah other people except of course the you know. (but considering Bradly is Black I doubt that would have been mr. SS reaction.)
@nsnoda6910
@nsnoda6910 3 жыл бұрын
Nice mug, also i think if steve knew about these experiments before getting the serum he would of never took it, because steve Rogers is a morally good person
@jensennguyen02
@jensennguyen02 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah steve was definitely going into the program thinking he was the first person to do it Literally willing to take that dangerous plunge all in the service of doing what he thought was right
@inkdweller8584
@inkdweller8584 3 жыл бұрын
@@jensennguyen02 That would be really interesting to see that he found out something like that and have the choice of taking the serum or letting someone else have it someone he didn’t know have that kind of power and isn’t morally like Steve would be horrifying but that’s basically U.S Agent
@sthbmc5963
@sthbmc5963 3 жыл бұрын
Steve took the serum and was already Cap before Isaiah’s story happened. Drake made an error in the video.
@oezibanana8664
@oezibanana8664 3 жыл бұрын
@@sthbmc5963 Not in the continuity of the book, though, right? But since they pressed it as canon into the main one, its a bit messy timeline wise?
@sthbmc5963
@sthbmc5963 3 жыл бұрын
@@oezibanana8664 In the continuity of the book it’s not explicated stated either way, but CA #1 is referenced as happening a year prior, the suit Isaiah takes is meant for Steve, and the timeline presented is still reflective of Steve coming first - which is why it was able to squeeze into canon. Now, was that the original intention? No. And that’s where you get some story beats that can come off confusing. So, either the creators got lucky and didn’t dive too deep into what they were intending or an audible was called during.
@marvelghost
@marvelghost 3 жыл бұрын
Isaiah Bradley should get his own Disney+ show. That would show why he ended up being the icon that he became; in the black community.
@cyberfire7191
@cyberfire7191 3 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see him and bucky go at in back in 51 during the Korean War seems like a helluva fight considering Isaiah stated he took half of bucky's arm
@ShibuNub3305
@ShibuNub3305 3 жыл бұрын
Even if it was just a 20 minute special, that’s be awesome
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 3 жыл бұрын
For those confused about the timeline of events, let me clear them up. Isaiah and his platoon were experimented on BEFORE Steve Rogers was given the Super Soldier Serum the the effects of the imperfect version affecting his mental capacities later in life. For the in-universe Captain America comics, as seen in in Truth #4, they were released a full year before Steve's first mission as Captain America as propaganda from the US, presumably while he was training. To the best of my knowledge, Isaiah took Steve's costume before Rogers had a chance to wear it for his maiden mission. EDIT: Okay. It has come to my attention that this was retconned in History of the Marvel Universe #2 in 2019 and that Isaiah was made into an attempt to recreate the serum. That's totally my bad for not being as thorough as I normally am for my content, especially since I read HotMU as it came out. I'll address this in my upcoming video about the history of every Captain America.
@MegaWubba_89
@MegaWubba_89 3 жыл бұрын
Season 1 finale of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier could tease Isaiah Bradley as Black Captain America prequel series on Disney+! ⚫️🇺🇸🛡
@ArnoldiiSaurus
@ArnoldiiSaurus 3 жыл бұрын
Cool
@kennyward33
@kennyward33 3 жыл бұрын
Also I saw online the other day when black panther and storm got married , falcon brought him and all the black heroes were in awe to see their hero in front of them
@KindlyCryptid
@KindlyCryptid 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely prefer him as the og cap instead of an attempt to recreate the serum; they shouldn’t take that distinction and honor away from him
@moocartoons
@moocartoons 3 жыл бұрын
The beginning of Truth takes place during Pearl Harbor, and Captain America #1 takes place before that point (before the U.S. officially enters the war.), and in universe issues of cap #1 are read by background characters during this scene. HtMU doesn't retcon this, this has always been the case in 616 and Kyle Baker himself confirms this, in interviews around the time, as well as in the 2004 trade paperback of truth. This is just semantics though, and none of this should lessen the impact of the atrocities committed by the U.S. government on African American troops.
@DonniedrakoE
@DonniedrakoE 3 жыл бұрын
Damn easily one of the saddest origin stories. A solider who basically got his entire life ruined from racism and the government turning a blind eye. All while being a bonafide hero. Mcu version got off easy
@gerardrbain1972
@gerardrbain1972 3 жыл бұрын
Blue Marvel has a similar back story.
@inkdweller8584
@inkdweller8584 3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t the MCU version spend 30 years in jail being experimented on by both the government and Hydra and then erased from existence while he did have his mental faculties retained he wasn’t a legend like in the comics falcon never heard of Him and he brought Isaiah to the black panther and storm wedding in the comics
@isaimelendez9006
@isaimelendez9006 3 жыл бұрын
@@inkdweller8584 I think it is safer that both of them were given shitty lives. The sad part is that while supersoldiers, hydra, and Isaiah Bradley doesn't exist, the racism is so painfully real.
@Vekcrazah
@Vekcrazah 3 жыл бұрын
No one got off easy. Both suffered, and both had some parts worse than their counterpart. There's no sugarcoating this. They were given shitty lives and no opportunities despite being as significant as their 'popular' and 'heroic' counterparts. And the fact that this may also likely exist in reality is even more disheartening
@ellytrabread
@ellytrabread 3 жыл бұрын
as far as we know, he said he doesnt wanna talk about it and all he says was that he was tested on and locked up, tons of fucked up stuff couldve happened before
@sparklesparkle3370
@sparklesparkle3370 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ, I had no idea of these kinds of experiments ever happened in a America
@bjam89
@bjam89 3 жыл бұрын
America has one hell of a dark underbelly. From what was done to the natives. Consentartion camps, the bombing of black wallstreet. Hell you would be shocked to learn what side murica had loads of suport to join in ww2
@kyronlewis6975
@kyronlewis6975 3 жыл бұрын
As a black person who knew about the character from the comics and the real life Tuskegee experiments I never thought Disney would have the balls to introduce the character in the MCU
@masterxak
@masterxak 3 жыл бұрын
There are tons of these kind of experiments in US History. There really isn't that big of a divide between what Nazi Germany and the US were doing at similar times. Hell MK Ultra didn't even end until the mid 70s.
@BeggarsNight
@BeggarsNight 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. A lot of things like that happened. People hear about wild conspiracy theories that circulate amongst black Americans even today about things like being secretly microchipped by the government at birth, etc. and don’t understand that it’s simply the result of repeated revelations of institutionalized racism, horrific stuff like those experiments. If I was black, I would find it tough to fully trust my government if they’d spent most of the past century carrying out various tortures, denying black Americans their rights, and moreover never seeming to have even a handful of black Americans in positions of power. And the century before THAT enslaving people with my skin color. After all that, people still can’t manage to understand why black Americans tend to be distrustful of even the police. Racism is just an issue too many prefer to treat as if it stopped existing entirely 60 years ago.
@Werewolf914
@Werewolf914 3 жыл бұрын
The world is a dark shitty place full of cruel 'people' sadly America isn't an exception. I wouldn't be surprised if Human experiments are still being carried out to this day whether on White, Black, Women, Children, anything, but maybe I'm just not a very optimistic person and maybe I just don't trust other Humans
@pious83
@pious83 3 жыл бұрын
_"Look at them. They can't even make peace with each other!"_ - Magneto
@samrandoms2159
@samrandoms2159 3 жыл бұрын
I love how they mentioned how this man basically tore Bucky apart while Cap held back in Winter Soldier. This basically highlights how much Cap was handicapped because of his personal connections to Bucky
@snazzy-hood9988
@snazzy-hood9988 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope we see a flashback of this guy in action,He sounds awesome.
@AussieDragoon
@AussieDragoon 3 жыл бұрын
One thing of note is that the comics soft-retconned events. Isiah still took took the Captain America suit so he was the first Captain America, though not officially, but his formula didn't lead into Steve's. Erskine (under the alias of Dr. Reinstein) had completed the formula on his own and Steve was the first and only person that formula was used on since Erskine was killed right after without informing anyone of how he did it. The experiments the Isiah was forced into now happened after this as an attempt to recreated the formula used on Steve, conducted by another man using the Reinstein moniker (This one being Wilfred Nagel who just appeared Falcon and the Winter Soldier). It's just that like in the First Avenger movie, the government didn't send Steve into the field right away since he was their only Super Soldier. And Marvel has stuck to this being the order of Events, in the 2019-2020 Complete History of the Marvel Universe book it's mentioned that Isiah got his serum after Steve. I'm sure there are people who like the idea of perfect Steve having a darker origin to his powers, but honestly this makes more sense. Had the government been monitoring the experiments the whole time, one guy dying shouldn't have stopped them from being able to perfect it, so having Isiah be part of an attempt to recreate it works better in the grand scheme of things.
@deadpoet4
@deadpoet4 3 жыл бұрын
Especially when you consider Nick Fury (Comics original, not MCU). He was also an attempt to recreate the formula. They got it wrong, but it did have some effects (The Infinity Formula).
@pious83
@pious83 3 жыл бұрын
It is the problem when an out of continuity book is ..less than delicately, pressed into canon.
@sthbmc5963
@sthbmc5963 3 жыл бұрын
Even in ‘Truth’ the timeline of Steve’s serum predates Isaiah’s by a year, and canonically Steve was a member on the Invaders (as the first Captain America) in Dec ‘41 before Isaiah even joined the military in Feb ‘42. Some of the story beats in ‘Truth’ got a little messy since it was injected into the main continuity when it wasn’t originally intended to be - but the timeline still evens out.
@seandabest4329
@seandabest4329 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think it's a cowardly move to have the events of Truth take place after Steve gets the serum, as opposed to before. It hits a lot closer to home to have the American government attempt the serum on the "disposables" first before they attempt to give it to their blond haired blue eyed poster child.
@deadpoet4
@deadpoet4 3 жыл бұрын
@@seandabest4329 He might have had blonde hair and blue eyes, but he was anything but a poster child when they administered the serum. After, yes. Before he was a 4f waste of space they had no use for and was more than expendable. If you think about, there was no way he'd have gotten the chance if there was verifiable proof of concept prior to his injection. Having the events of Truth happen post Rogers success and Erskine's death as an attempt to recreate the fluke might be "cowardly", but it's also more realistic.
@somerandomguy3011
@somerandomguy3011 3 жыл бұрын
Wow as a black man I’m proud that this can be spoken about and can be described in detail for an audience. Most others would have just barely mentioned that part.
@Emike-nc9ew
@Emike-nc9ew 3 жыл бұрын
Is really awesome that they are setting up the young avengers...
@jacobzacarias
@jacobzacarias 3 жыл бұрын
Oh I really hope comicsdrake makes a video on them!
@bashfulbreloom9294
@bashfulbreloom9294 3 жыл бұрын
They may not be. I understand that everyone wants them but they may just not chose to do them
@andrepaul3483
@andrepaul3483 3 жыл бұрын
Isaiah Bradley is played by Martian Manhunter in Falcon & TWS. Cool
@acehealer4212
@acehealer4212 3 жыл бұрын
I’d heard about Isaiah’s story before. I was really hoping he’d appear in The Falcon & The Winter Soldier AND HE DID! Hell yeah! And with his grandson Eli making a cameo appearance, a Young Avengers team in the MCU seems like a real possibility now! I don’t know a lot about Josiah X though. I should do some more reading.
@dominiquejones3805
@dominiquejones3805 5 ай бұрын
Can't wait 2 see what they do with him & I want a Isaiah Bradley special
@yinwithoutyang732
@yinwithoutyang732 3 жыл бұрын
I love that line "Guys, no. My wife would kill me".
@flipflopmcgurt3403
@flipflopmcgurt3403 3 жыл бұрын
Stuff of legends ....
@maxamaya8480
@maxamaya8480 3 жыл бұрын
The way you incorporated the difficult history that the author's were trying to portray into this episode is commendable. Thank you for the time and effort you put into this one, your work is appreciated and enjoyed.
@ziljin
@ziljin 3 жыл бұрын
They are definitely setting up Patriot for Young Avengers or Champions right? And they should do a MCU movie with young Isaiah Bradley vs Winter Soldier in Korean War. Maybe they can even have other superheroes. Wasn't Hank Pym Ant-Man active around that time? Some sort of Avengers pre-cursor?
@cooperminion825
@cooperminion825 3 жыл бұрын
No. That was at least 10 years later during Vietnam
@ziljin
@ziljin 3 жыл бұрын
@@cooperminion825 I see. Still I would to see younger versions of the retired heroes. Isaiah, Hank Pym, Bill Foster, and Steve Rogers went back in time, so maybe we can see him team up with them too! and other old characters like Wolverine!
@shadowclaw7210
@shadowclaw7210 3 жыл бұрын
@@ziljin previous Iron fist or Black panther
@ziljin
@ziljin 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowclaw7210 precursor Iron Fist and Black Panther would be cool. Although not sure if they would team up with US army. But I am sure they could figure out how to make it work.
@shadowclaw7210
@shadowclaw7210 3 жыл бұрын
@@ziljin I think it’s best in Wakandas interest just be scouts that observe what’s happening I can see Iron fist working agent from his city to make sure everything is ok
@Abominatrix650
@Abominatrix650 Жыл бұрын
He's such a tragic figure but very compelling. And Carl Lumbly portrayed him excellently
@xgray2012
@xgray2012 7 ай бұрын
What?! That was Carl Lumbly in the show?! J'onn J'onzz, the Martian Manhunter?!
@RLucas3000
@RLucas3000 3 жыл бұрын
Boy, I remember when “God Loves, Man Kills” was one of the darkest Marvel stories done (back in the 80s), but this is so much darker.
@Aries1rbh
@Aries1rbh 3 жыл бұрын
Comic Drake.. I deeply appreciate this video!! I actually own most of the "Truth" comics.... I am Retired USAF and this entire story has a special meaning to me. You have my thanks!!
@vivecthepoet36
@vivecthepoet36 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like its always ben kind of dishonest that he's referred to as the "forgotten" Captain America, when, in actuality, the character and his backstory were created as a retcon.
@101Mant
@101Mant 3 жыл бұрын
He was forgotten within the comics setting. Also people tend to over use the word retcon, characters learning something about the past isnt really a retcon unless it changes something we have already seen.
@vivecthepoet36
@vivecthepoet36 3 жыл бұрын
@@101Mant I mean, its literally a retcon though, as it recontextualizes the entirety of Captain America's origin. I completely understand why he's the Forgotten Captain America in universe.
@xKingx16
@xKingx16 3 жыл бұрын
Comics are full of that stuff... In my opinion,it's only a problem if it throws off current stories & it doesn't.
@nirast2561
@nirast2561 3 жыл бұрын
1:25 GOOD LORD, HE'S THICC! What is it with Captain America and being ballooned like that?
@leanndmean
@leanndmean 3 жыл бұрын
Original black captain america and the second person to hold the title
@colinakersakers44
@colinakersakers44 3 жыл бұрын
I find this character really interesting, and I think it would be awesome to see him vs Bucky in a flashback or something. Really I just hope he gets more on screen time, maybe even a movie
@Anthintendo
@Anthintendo 3 жыл бұрын
5:44 - Okay, Drake, you’ve made this man into my favorite character now.
@dramonmaster222
@dramonmaster222 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Isiah's tale is quite tragic indeed.
@jaysilverhood1264
@jaysilverhood1264 3 жыл бұрын
"Guys no... My wife would kill me" God I wish someone said that line in the show now.
@NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy
@NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy 3 жыл бұрын
In my university days, when this debuted, this comic series was assigned reading in the Hip Hop Students Association. Good times.
@King88Kayo
@King88Kayo 2 жыл бұрын
"He's impact on the Marvel universe can not be over stated." ... Yip so impactful that we literally don't have the words to express, maybe Marvel should bring out a series on him and showcase the immeasurable impact he had on this franchise!
@marvelgeek9577
@marvelgeek9577 3 жыл бұрын
Isaiah Bradley: *takes up the mantle of Captain America and delivers a crushing blow to the Nazis U.S. government: Wait, that’s illegal John Walker: *takes up the mantle of Captain America and brutally murders a bunch of terrorists in cold blood U.S. government: What a wonderful guy doing whatever’s necessary to protect our country! We should give him another Medal of Honor!
@forickgrimaldus8301
@forickgrimaldus8301 3 жыл бұрын
Well the US of WW2 was segregated in fact most Black soldiers only served very late in the war because the Army doesn't want to give glory to them or more likely as most at that time feared for a Race riot, which happened in the 20s which was bad very bad, people getting gunned down bad (its called the Nidere of race relations.)
@forickgrimaldus8301
@forickgrimaldus8301 3 жыл бұрын
The watchmen from HBO did a version of that in a flashback, though the series was a complete meh.
@GuessWho7197
@GuessWho7197 3 жыл бұрын
I thought I remember reading that Isiah was given the super soldier serum in an attempt to *recreate* the serum *after* Prof. Erksine died. Am I simply remembering it wrong or was there a later retcon that changed it to how I recall it?
@williamstamp6461
@williamstamp6461 3 жыл бұрын
i think in the mcu the experiments on him were an attempt to recreate the serum as he mentions being active in the 50s but in the comics he was the first super soldier
@GuessWho7197
@GuessWho7197 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamstamp6461 No I had thought this long before last week when he was introduced in the MCU
@tywalker7847
@tywalker7847 3 жыл бұрын
Nope you’re right. Steve got the formula, there weren’t really any kinks with it, it was gonna be risky anyway, but Steve still got it first. After Dr. Erskine was assassinated and the serum’s formula was lost, the government pretty much took whatever notes he left and tried to make their own by experimenting on the 300 African American soldiers they forced into the program to recreate Steve. In the notes section for Isaiah Bradley’s page in the Marvel wiki I believe the writer of Truth explains that it was originally out of continuity, but then it was confirmed it was canon later, and that by the 5th or 6th issue it was stated Steve was already Cap/injected beforehand.
@GuessWho7197
@GuessWho7197 3 жыл бұрын
@@tywalker7847 Ah, so Drake just left that detail out. Thank you, thought I was crazy and making things up in my head.
@tywalker7847
@tywalker7847 3 жыл бұрын
@@dannyknightblade4592 no problem! Yeah I remember that was a tough thing to learn when I first got into comics lol. Glad I could help!
@skullivan2310
@skullivan2310 3 жыл бұрын
I think they changed a few details. Cos I remeber hearing he became a super solder after cap trying to recreate the syrum since the orginal guy who made it well. Died. Which would explain why the Cap comics would exist while he did. Though maybe I am wrong. I really have no clue. Kinda hard to get comics in the UK since Manchester doesn't have any comic book shops around where I live.
@adhird5309
@adhird5309 3 жыл бұрын
Steve's came in 1940 with Dr. Erskine. Dr. Nagel's experiments tried to recreate Erskine's formula post Pearl Harbour 1941. Which we see later adapted to the MCU.
@adhird5309
@adhird5309 3 жыл бұрын
The little racist handler dude even says that Steve's comic led to him joining the Operation that created Isaiah Bradley within the series itself, so its within the continuity of this limited series that Steve's came first. But Isaiah's story is still significant even though it doesn't retcon Steve's personal history.
@fanofeverythingsinglething1000
@fanofeverythingsinglething1000 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my God Isaiah‘s grandson made an appearance in Falcon and the winter soldier What is in the future he becomes a patriot that would be awesome
@jakepalermo9181
@jakepalermo9181 3 жыл бұрын
1:24 At least he still takes inoculation. Events like Tuskegee made people distrust taking shots.
@forickgrimaldus8301
@forickgrimaldus8301 3 жыл бұрын
Weird thing about that, they actually published their findings about Syhphilis disease progression, which adds to its surreal and horrible nature. It would be like Umbrella Publishing their T Virus project along with the other BOWs.
@FoxJ10027
@FoxJ10027 3 жыл бұрын
7:10 Good to know Richard Pryor is canon to Marvel.
@pious83
@pious83 3 жыл бұрын
And Malcolm X, which is strange with the Magneto parallel.
@Nzosaba_Matenge
@Nzosaba_Matenge 3 жыл бұрын
@@pious83 weird right
@Mephiestopholes
@Mephiestopholes 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, man. Always a pleasure.
@wesified
@wesified 3 жыл бұрын
this channel is amazing gj man
@ldk2695
@ldk2695 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid Drake!
@NovastarDoughnut
@NovastarDoughnut 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the book suggestion man. this sounds exactly like the kind of comic book stuff I love to read. shortform, one off stuff that is in cannon but overall not the most vital
@jamesk234
@jamesk234 Жыл бұрын
Great video man! I recently came across your channel and so far haven't seen a bad video... keep up all the good work! 👍
@fanofaction2364
@fanofaction2364 3 жыл бұрын
Showed this to my mom and she really liked it, She has been REALLY liking The Falcon and The Winter Solider
@DrSagaciousone
@DrSagaciousone 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched your vid. As an African-American I cant express how much I appreciate this video. Thank you very much for shedding light on this character. You are very much appreciated. You have a new subscriber. God bless.
@raelynn2773
@raelynn2773 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Thanks so much for this excellent summary. I've tried to find TRUTH for a couple of years at a reasonable price and never managed. I'll probably purchase it digitally someday when I have something that can display it properly. But in the mean time this was such a big help!!
@topher_69eze34
@topher_69eze34 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, yo udo this character, and many after him, a good service of promoting his name, and gthe recognition that it deserves.
@kilroywashere513
@kilroywashere513 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve read a article about this comic in a Wizard magazine once, and there was a advertisement for this comic back when it was out the first time too, and I enjoyed this video also.
@ransegev8434
@ransegev8434 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for exposing me to the story of Isaiah Bradley! I would have never thought to look him up if not you.
@TheCreepypro
@TheCreepypro 3 жыл бұрын
nice to see this character get recognition I hope the show does more with him
@fabianthegreat10
@fabianthegreat10 3 жыл бұрын
That comic was true to the spirit of the United States, unfortunately
@ernestocaro9802
@ernestocaro9802 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent story, I remember seeing the comic cover on the source magazine back in '03
@funimonki
@funimonki 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, that mug is epic
@ShatteredGlass916
@ShatteredGlass916 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, i saw another video that talks about this guy before and i kinda confused. The difference is, in that video Isaiah were experimented on to replicate Capt's Super Serum since he's frozen in ice and basically missing, but in this video Isaiah were experimented to perfecting Super Serum to later on given to Steve. Anyway, i'm glad 'Falcon and Winter Soldier' can tackle this issue. Also, that 'Black Falcon' scene always gets me for some reason lmao
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 3 жыл бұрын
Please read the pinned comment.
@ShatteredGlass916
@ShatteredGlass916 3 жыл бұрын
@@ComicDrake okay
@MrMrx123456789
@MrMrx123456789 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope Issiah gets the recognition he deserves. The past may never been kind but there are many who would wanna tell his story
@spicewitch9115
@spicewitch9115 3 жыл бұрын
wow what a compelling character!!! I hope Isaiah is given the same compelling treatment in the mcu, i would kill for a flashback or anything to show off more of this astounding character.
@DUES_EX
@DUES_EX 3 жыл бұрын
So this comic was based of the real life “Tuskegee Airmen”
@Kingdomkey123678
@Kingdomkey123678 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a mixture of the Tuskegee Airmen and the Tuskegee Syphils experiments
@eduardoruiz7600
@eduardoruiz7600 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow I never realized the comic with Isaiah Bradley’s origin was so intense. Hope I can get around to reading this in print someday
@juliiju0484
@juliiju0484 3 жыл бұрын
One of the Best captain américa ever
@pabloiriqui6128
@pabloiriqui6128 3 жыл бұрын
I remmember learning from this when reading Young Avengers. I thought it was really sad and never thought the MCU would use his story due to the delicacy of the theme. Glad to see they actually did and very well done.
@JustinMacri007
@JustinMacri007 2 жыл бұрын
Remember that smallville series on JSA when Halkman and team were framed from government?
@dragonthunderx3250
@dragonthunderx3250 3 жыл бұрын
Man if this means Patriot is coming then I’m gonna feel tons of nostalgia since I first saw the character in Marvel’s Ultimate Alliance 2, (he’s the guy who felt heart broken if you picked iron man’s side). God, it would feel like an old friend you haven’t seen in years calling you up for a hangout.
@firemanjoe9491
@firemanjoe9491 3 жыл бұрын
“To appeal to the hip hop group.” ... they make a comic about racism and exploitation and that’s their idea about the artwork.
@herebejamz
@herebejamz 3 жыл бұрын
TBF, the artist is black and the writer is Afro-Puerto Rican. It's not like some random white dudes made this decision.
@sideoffry8370
@sideoffry8370 3 жыл бұрын
I get where you're coming from, but I don't think that the artistic decision was meant to be exploitative. Genres like Classic Jazz and Hip-Hop hold a pretty special place in the African American community, and a lot of songs carry a lot of history and stories that can be pretty powerful when it comes to acknowledging problems and what goes on in the world, especially things in history. I guess it's kind of like how folk songs and a lot of other genres of music are used to tell stories of our ancestors and things like that. So, I don't think the decision was made to be exploitative, I think it was intentionally made to be something that people could visually associate with something modern like hip-hop and lead them down the rabbit hole and see just how many real issues this comic was trying to address. Like, I don't think this was an ignorant or random decision, I think it was deliberately made to get the audience thinking. I could be wrong, but that's my take-away from the whole situation.
@jeffreywhitlock4882
@jeffreywhitlock4882 3 жыл бұрын
Deep storyline. I thought of the Tuskeegee Experiment when I first heard of Isiah Bradley in the Falcon and Winter Soldier.
@khotunkhan3950
@khotunkhan3950 3 жыл бұрын
We soo need a full episode or two on his backstory
@Siddif
@Siddif 2 жыл бұрын
When watching the show I though it was a reference to Omar Mosely / Black Marvel from the 90s Spider-Man series 6 Forgotten Warriors arc. I wasn’t aware of this run, thanks for the video.
@carterego5443
@carterego5443 3 жыл бұрын
Despite all the evil, isiah was still amazing and a true hero
@StormTheeOmega
@StormTheeOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Ik I could count on you for this video.
@juicybrucey_5352
@juicybrucey_5352 3 жыл бұрын
A guy telling heavy subject matter while holding a Mario pipe mug. Classic
@bobcharlie2337
@bobcharlie2337 3 жыл бұрын
What's behind the art style of the comics, it's like a jazz poster from the 1940s?
@raggamuffin9347
@raggamuffin9347 3 жыл бұрын
That is Kyle Baker's art style, fits the time period the story is set in too imo.
@CrisDFF30917
@CrisDFF30917 Жыл бұрын
Wow ... this is what I call "fresh" info. thks.
@solblackguy
@solblackguy 3 жыл бұрын
You can tell this series and this episode especially was meant to air on Black History Month. A lot of it hits close to home and didn't expect Marvel to "Go there." I hope we eventually get a movie about Isiah Bradley. His story needs to go mainstream.
@roaringthunder115
@roaringthunder115 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see flashbacks of this guy in action
@samuelturner6076
@samuelturner6076 3 жыл бұрын
So I had no idea about the Tuskegee experiments. I honestly don’t have the words to describe how this is making me feel right now.
@anonymouss.2158
@anonymouss.2158 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope they give us a deeper look into his character in falcon and winter soldier.
@kingace6186
@kingace6186 7 ай бұрын
"Guys, no. My wife would kill me" - A legend.
@Shadowkiller-dq2ju
@Shadowkiller-dq2ju 3 жыл бұрын
He was a great character and great retcon
@kenlieck7756
@kenlieck7756 3 жыл бұрын
I've always thought "Truth: RW&B" was fantastic, and you did a helluva job of summarizing the tragic tale here. I originally stumbled upon it out of a fondness for Kyle Baker's art, though I never thought of it as "hip-hop" -- sure, he did the "Break The Chain!" hip-hop comic with KRS-One for Marvel Music (yes, there really was a Marvel Music line!) but he also did a long run on Plastic Man for DC, which is as white as comics get! As far as the links to buy copies, your viewers are lucky, as "Truth" was out of print and damn near impossible to find in any form for a number of years -- good to know that it (as well as Isaiah Bradley) is finally getting some much-deserved respect! (But what's the story on Robert Morales? Did he ever write *any* other comics???)
@weeb-ubreafs1382
@weeb-ubreafs1382 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so cool to know this history because I really only knew about his son
@TheOther644
@TheOther644 3 жыл бұрын
Always loved Isaiah and the scene in Falcon and the Winter Soldier awesome, I mean sure they made changes but still loved it and want more of Isaiah. Of course Steve wasn't the first it was already established, even before Isaiah was created like there was this thing with Protocide then Steve. As cool as it would be if Isaiah was the first he isn't, he did steal Cap's uniform and I think Cap's shield too? I remember there being a thing where ppl wanted it retconned before the fall series came out and it was revealed that Isaiah and the others came after do to their mission coming after Steve's propaganda stuff.
@chuchi4435
@chuchi4435 3 жыл бұрын
A true hero 😔
@uchihabomber1296
@uchihabomber1296 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always liked this as good captain America lore
@ClicheProductions
@ClicheProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I love your mug, where can I get one?
@sailor75565
@sailor75565 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Vibranium_man
@Vibranium_man 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video about Adamantium?
@bigstunna2049
@bigstunna2049 3 жыл бұрын
Wow had no idea his origin was this gruesome I wish we could have atleast a two episode thing for his origin
@OptimusForTrains117
@OptimusForTrains117 2 жыл бұрын
If they made a Isaiah Bradley spin off it should be rated R
@Batman7280
@Batman7280 3 жыл бұрын
They need to make this into a movie
@luciusxv1961
@luciusxv1961 3 жыл бұрын
At least Isaiah met Steve and took a photo.
@davidfortuin4146
@davidfortuin4146 3 жыл бұрын
Best episode hands down and I I think it would be a smart move on Marvel part to give us Isaiah Bradley's Captain America the original super soldier.
@Emerald3ME
@Emerald3ME 3 жыл бұрын
Just reading how many people are misspelling "Isaiah" as "Isiah" in the comments 😂
@isaiahpadilla3588
@isaiahpadilla3588 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah people get my name wrong all the time.
@funkifroggi1727
@funkifroggi1727 3 жыл бұрын
This is the darkest backstory I've ever heard, ngl
@an8strengthkobold360
@an8strengthkobold360 2 жыл бұрын
There's definitely darker sh*t but I'd say this is the darkest realistic backstory I've found.
@drackestalentorgen166
@drackestalentorgen166 3 жыл бұрын
I really dont know how to feel about the story.. i knew who he was but i always though he was a post WW2 character. I really dont like the idea of steve not being the first Cap though I respect the comic for the risk it took. I
@sthbmc5963
@sthbmc5963 3 жыл бұрын
Steve is the first. Isaiah’s didn’t get experimented on until ‘42.
@phantomgamer3570
@phantomgamer3570 3 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to comic drake with the coffee mug in every video
@isaiahmendivil3835
@isaiahmendivil3835 3 жыл бұрын
Please for the love of god Drake I just want a Music Meister video
@marshalhammel5065
@marshalhammel5065 Жыл бұрын
This kinda reminds me of an idea I had of the super soldier serum be a part of eugenic experiments into the X gene. Which I think would fit into this story.
@austinmckee2131
@austinmckee2131 3 жыл бұрын
I had those comics I wanted to see more of this version but we all only got a few issues
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