The Tragic Life of the Irish Patriot | Robert Emmet

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@thomasmccarthy9758
@thomasmccarthy9758 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't fail, he understood that he planted a seed for the future, in west Belfast today we remember him and love him , we still haven't won but I ask you have we failed no! We will rise again and we will write his epitaph! T
@curiositypiqued6573
@curiositypiqued6573 2 жыл бұрын
He was so unfortunate....all he wanted was what we today all take for granted.....he deserved better
@ianodowd3069
@ianodowd3069 3 жыл бұрын
As a irish man from Dublin, I look up to grrat heros like Robert Emmet. Without people like him Ireland would never be free. Thank you for doing his grrat history justice.
@sandidavis820
@sandidavis820 3 жыл бұрын
When the British give back the last 6 counties, in Northern Ireland,, THEN AND ONLY THEN. Ireland will be really free.
@cjillwrite8249
@cjillwrite8249 5 жыл бұрын
What a sad end fora very brave man.
@antseanbheanbocht4993
@antseanbheanbocht4993 4 жыл бұрын
You really should do a follow up about his house keeper Ann Devlin if you get a chance, there was a movie made about her of the same name. She ended up in kilmainham Gaol herself. The tour guides there say she was the Bravest prisoner to ever pass through it. The spot where Robert was hanged in front of the church on Thomas street Dublin is marked with a simple plaque and is only a couple of hundred yards from the Guinness brewery. "Let not my epitaph be written until Ireland takes it place amongst the nation's of the world" Robert Emmet.
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 4 жыл бұрын
Great video of an Irish hero true Irish Republican/Nationalist. Robert Emmet was disembodied being part of ascendancy doesn’t move the cold hearted British.
@doylefoust4802
@doylefoust4802 5 жыл бұрын
I disagree with my own country! America sees the IRA as torristis, but George Washington stood up to the British so did Andrew jackson. I feel strongly that anyone who stands up for the freedom of his country is a hero.
@galoglaich3281
@galoglaich3281 4 жыл бұрын
Doyle gortmaker I am irish and i don't agree with you.The old IRA that is the IRA of the 1920s were freedom fighters,but the provisional IRA in the north of ireland were traitors to ireland and were terrorists.Sinn Fein the political arm of the IRA are not nationalist in any shape or form,they are Communist,ProOpen borders they have sold out ireland and Irish nationalism.They were and are internationalist communists who hijacked irish nationalism.They want to get rid of the border between the republic of ireland and northern ireland,because they are against borders not to create an united independent state as they pretend .
@thenextshenanigantownandth4393
@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 4 жыл бұрын
You're confusing the United Irishmen, The young Irelanders and the ICA all are revolutionaries, the IRA of the 1960s are considered terrorists as should the British army and the uvf imho.
@thenextshenanigantownandth4393
@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 4 жыл бұрын
@@galoglaich3281 You do realize the British army and uvf killed more civilians than the IRA did? The difference between the IRA and the British army is one is authorized to terrorize.
@galoglaich3281
@galoglaich3281 4 жыл бұрын
@@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 My point is that there motives weren't what they claimed they were .They are not nationalists ,you can't be for open borders and be nationalist.They are and were communists who have hijacked nationalism for a failed ideology that has resulted in the deaths of millions.
@thenextshenanigantownandth4393
@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 4 жыл бұрын
@@galoglaich3281 So much wrong with your comment, deaths of millions? what?
@deeppurple883
@deeppurple883 2 жыл бұрын
I've just listened to Roberts last word's, after being condemned to death. The speech was moving and I couldn't have said it better myself. I've a new found respect for a patriot second to none. RIP son of Ireland 🇮🇪. Not written yet.
@fionnmcnessa
@fionnmcnessa Жыл бұрын
He led brave men to slaughter when the rising began he got squeamish seeing blood and guts been spilled and shouted to call it off leading to confusion and panic amoung the rebels Doesn't deserve fame
@flanneryred5755
@flanneryred5755 5 жыл бұрын
It has been long forgotten what bullies England was! No one was safe from them coming and trampling them underfoot, taking over and TAXING THEM so that the "royalty" could live in even further luxury! Their greed knew NO bounds! I am Irish American. My family name of O'Donnell goes all the way back to Irish royals of the 1200's. It STILL makes me angry seeing the British royal family being hailed for doing nothing more than living on the taxes of working people and living in luxury! "Service to their country"??? What service?!
@Markbeb3
@Markbeb3 4 жыл бұрын
Me also.
@TeachReads
@TeachReads 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, not that many people in Britain care for the monarchy, but they’re a good financial investment due to the fact that other people around the world come to see them. For every tax payer pound spent on them the economy gains four pounds. As long as this is the case the monarchy will remain.
@BriefCaseOfficial
@BriefCaseOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Another fascinating story of the life of someone I knew nothing about :)
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers BC
@MortisMedia
@MortisMedia 5 жыл бұрын
Really interesting case! Thank you! :)
@rwarts5150
@rwarts5150 5 жыл бұрын
Mortis you speak the truth ; )
@DD-BEAN10
@DD-BEAN10 4 жыл бұрын
Brothers?
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mort!!
@deadlyknightshademmfan7292
@deadlyknightshademmfan7292 4 жыл бұрын
@@DD-BEAN10 Hello! Yes they are. 😉
@susanhavens1660
@susanhavens1660 4 жыл бұрын
I love Irish stories. Thanks Forgotten Lives.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure :D
@bettyjames4155
@bettyjames4155 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's safe to say that Robert Emmett's character has been vindicated!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed!!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed!!
@thenextshenanigantownandth4393
@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 4 жыл бұрын
Not yet 26+6=1
@Difficultfuckhead
@Difficultfuckhead 4 жыл бұрын
@@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 The north is the last of your problems right now. 'The National Party' is your only hope... kzbin.info/door/xgY69mo_nUGuCDo1yPygngvideos
@sarzib3246
@sarzib3246 4 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Lives he wasnt a catholic so he was him. I like him.
@ChildfreeMatto
@ChildfreeMatto 5 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Lives how perfect! It's a Sunday night with pretty much nothing on television and then you uploaded this amazing video. They are always educational with content that I love to listen to. Thank you for coming through with another interesting and unique video.😀
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the continued support!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
I must have missed it sorry!! But of course I appreciate all your support s much as well :D
@rwarts5150
@rwarts5150 5 жыл бұрын
I like almost anything revolutionary. Both me and the Irish blood in me thanks you for this great video
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear and thanks very much!
@rwarts5150
@rwarts5150 4 жыл бұрын
@@ELKE- how could you and how dare you destroy everything I've done in this cold cruel world lol ; ) it's all good hope your doing well as well
@rwarts5150
@rwarts5150 4 жыл бұрын
@@ELKE- no i like it I'm only joking my sarcasm is a little crazy 😎
@tracishea5053
@tracishea5053 5 жыл бұрын
Emmett probably found it contrary to immigrate off the island for which he'd been fighting. After all, he'd done so, presumably, because he loved Ireland.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
So true!
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 4 жыл бұрын
Yes very true.
@alisonmcgoff
@alisonmcgoff 4 жыл бұрын
He was the father of the Republican movement in his time. I love this channel because its content, thoughts and research of the narrator is both stimulating and thought provoking. We remember him with love and deep respect.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much that's great to hear :)
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 2 жыл бұрын
No Wolfe Tone technically was.
@alisonmcgoff
@alisonmcgoff 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot deny that, sir, nor would I try! Glory oh Glory oh to the bold fenian men.. Can we just agree he’s one of its founders?
@mkcollectibles9387
@mkcollectibles9387 5 жыл бұрын
Tyvvm...great history & glad you're feeling better now. 🎃
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@cherylleanne8949
@cherylleanne8949 5 жыл бұрын
Hay hope you are feeling better, thanks awesome story thanks mate 😀
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
Yep! Thanks for watching :)
@cherylleanne8949
@cherylleanne8949 4 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Lives your welcome 😉
@patrickcullinane7461
@patrickcullinane7461 Жыл бұрын
God Bless Robert Emmet 🙏 Rest in Peace 🙏 Great Video 😊
@monao318
@monao318 5 жыл бұрын
Well done. Thank you 😊
@serrahstewart2212
@serrahstewart2212 4 жыл бұрын
The lives of patriots pave the path to freedom.
@MrRaglanroad
@MrRaglanroad 4 жыл бұрын
And then came Fianna Fail and Fine Gael and gave it all to Brussels.
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 4 жыл бұрын
Yes beats London and Ulster Unionist tyrants who prevent unification.
@KiKiabout
@KiKiabout 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative... Thank you!
@LedSledJoe
@LedSledJoe 2 жыл бұрын
Did it fail? I'm here 2022 and I support every word young Emmet said on the docks. In perpetuity. Respect our honored dead.
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 2 жыл бұрын
Yes he got betrayed
@deadlyknightshademmfan7292
@deadlyknightshademmfan7292 4 жыл бұрын
Hey FL, Thank you for the interesting video, always enjoy your video's. I hope this finds you feeling better.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
Great to know! Thank you!
@deadlyknightshademmfan7292
@deadlyknightshademmfan7292 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenLives Your very welcome! Take care!
@Starae336
@Starae336 4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear something about a part of my ancestors as I hardly know anything of Irish history strangely though I know plenty about English history..
@loutrepoutre49.3
@loutrepoutre49.3 2 жыл бұрын
This video provides details on events that are not necessarily well informed. Thank you for your time, work and share 👍 Can I put it in a link in a voluntary work on the history of the revolutions in France and in the world since 1789? Cette vidéo apporte des détails sur des événements pas forcément bien renseignés. Merci pour votre temps, votre travail et le partage👍 Puis-je la mettre en lien dans un travail bénévole sur l'histoire des révolutions en France et dans le monde depuis 1789? Cordialement
@aidzomcg8601
@aidzomcg8601 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic 🇮🇪
@Vic-mv8iz
@Vic-mv8iz 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting I enjoyed listening to you
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@thenextshenanigantownandth4393
@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 4 жыл бұрын
If the united Irishmen and the french forces had of stuck to the plan and taken Dublin they would have been successful imo.
@brooklynsmomma88
@brooklynsmomma88 4 жыл бұрын
Love this
@nancyM1313
@nancyM1313 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@deadlyknightshademmfan7292
@deadlyknightshademmfan7292 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Sunshine! Hope your doing well and had a great weekend. 🍂🍁💛🎃💛🍁🍂
@nancyM1313
@nancyM1313 4 жыл бұрын
@@deadlyknightshademmfan7292 Hello 👋... Doing well. Happy to hear from you. 💋Hope you are well too.
@deadlyknightshademmfan7292
@deadlyknightshademmfan7292 4 жыл бұрын
@@nancyM1313 Hey Sis! Glad to hear your doing good. Think I'm coming down with a cold, if it ain't one thing its another. Love ya 👻🕷🍁🍂🧡🍃🎃🍃💛🍂🍁🕸👻
@nancyM1313
@nancyM1313 4 жыл бұрын
@@deadlyknightshademmfan7292 Hey! Sorry to hear that.😷I had/have medical appts. The whole week and all at 8:00 am start, plus other chores. 😢 just gonna try to get them done. Then wait for next weeks problem, lol...alrighty. Hopefully, nothing will happen. Stay in touch Missy. 😁💛🧡👋
@deadlyknightshademmfan7292
@deadlyknightshademmfan7292 4 жыл бұрын
@@nancyM1313 Hey sis👋! I rested and took some meds so hopefully this won't last long. Oh man! I feel for you, I know your like me and don't like to go but like ya said we have to, I hope everything is alright🤞, worry about you as I worry about E and S.. will keep you in my thoughts and prayers 🙏. Yeah I got a lot of chores as well but looks like they're gonna have to wait, least I got a lot done the day before. You to hun! I know there's times we don't feel up to being on but as soon as you do find me and let me know your doing good. Take care hun and I hope nothing else happens. Much 💛🧡💛🧡🤗
@MERALACXBACKINGPAN
@MERALACXBACKINGPAN 4 жыл бұрын
These are my new favorite bedtime stories! 😍😍😍😍😍🤟🏼💕😁
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks very much :D
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 4 жыл бұрын
Talk about following in family footsteps
@hilltopviewer8204
@hilltopviewer8204 Жыл бұрын
Thinking of Robert Emmet on his execution 20 September 1803--20 September 2023!
@dianaantu8227
@dianaantu8227 4 жыл бұрын
interesting, thank you.
@thudor1
@thudor1 Жыл бұрын
Oh breathe not his name. Let it sleep in the shade, Where cold and unhonoured his relics are laid. Sad, silent and dark be the tears that we shed As the night dew that falls on the grass o'er his head. But the night dew that falls, though in silence it weeps, Shall brighten with verdure the grave where he sleeps. And the tears that we shed, though in silence it rolls, Shall long keep his memory green in our souls. Sir Thomas Moore (1779-1854)
@monkemanmma
@monkemanmma 3 жыл бұрын
He’s one of my great uncles
@backwoodsman
@backwoodsman 3 жыл бұрын
One of Ireland's finest sons. Fuair sé bás ar son saoirse Eireann. 🇮🇪
@jameswells554
@jameswells554 3 жыл бұрын
What else is to be expected of a Man born on the only day of the year to give a Command? A Man's Country must be his Primary Religion.
@jamesgillick5779
@jamesgillick5779 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting... Thank you
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!!
@xyzllii
@xyzllii 4 жыл бұрын
Good little biog.
@lanacampbell-moore6686
@lanacampbell-moore6686 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You 😁
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@patrickcullinane7461
@patrickcullinane7461 3 ай бұрын
May Robert Emmett's Eipathat Be Written Soon 🙏🤞 Irish Reunification Peacefully Democratically is Not Going Away
@patriciapalmer1377
@patriciapalmer1377 2 жыл бұрын
ONE LEFT So many men of my family lost their lives in the fight for independence, my teenage Grandfather was spirited away in the middle of the night for a ship to America, to join an older sister sent ahead to ensure one male of the family remained alive.
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 Жыл бұрын
When my country takes her place among the nation of world all 32 counties then and only then let my epitaph be written.
@merleharvey4783
@merleharvey4783 3 жыл бұрын
like one of Canada's best finance Minister ever🍁
@bethbartlett5692
@bethbartlett5692 4 жыл бұрын
I do not ever want to see Irish and Tragic in the same sentence again. I've had it with this negative reflection. We live in the Now. We are free. 🍀
@margaretcaldarone1005
@margaretcaldarone1005 4 жыл бұрын
@Beth Baryle, If you dont talk about it. It will not go away. It is your history. You are free, but 1000s starved to death and suffered emincely. History can repeat itself, so putting your head in the sand will not help. No one wants to dwell on the past, but you must be aware. One must respect the dead, because if it wasnt for them you wouldnt be free.
@bethbartlett5692
@bethbartlett5692 4 жыл бұрын
@@margaretcaldarone1005 The Universal Law of Attraction remains an absolute - Thoughts create reality - that in no way lessens the tragic past - it sets an intention for a Benevolent Future.
@bethbartlett5692
@bethbartlett5692 4 жыл бұрын
@@liamb5546 I shall never forget - I'm actually stuck in the USA under a Narcissist Personality Disorder POTUS, and an elite owned media stirring up the Evangelicals, Bikers, KKK, and Neo-Nazi's. (Imagine all these personalities on the same page/team) I literally have had moments throughout my life when I thought: had my family not been in such a Need and Determination for Opportunities - "I would have been born in County Kerry, like all my ancestors - all the way back till the Early Basque settled in Western Ireland. (And possibly those whom were even earlier) Rh(-) Green eyes and Blonde - my younger sister is the Redhead 😉 ... and hope you've the patience, understanding of the subject areas, cause I feel a "Soapbox/Rant" about to emerge. And, please - feel free to comment from the true point of facts, because as long as it is done - "with direct genuine candor" - I'm fine with any reviews... I've come t9 surmise, we as a People obviously have situations to be experienced in our Collective, families, and individually - connected to the History through present, i.e., our journey includes our history - to a point. I have had true opportunities - education, college, professional experiences and successes, that "Those G-Grandparents, Grandparents, and Parent's, *efforts made possible."* Thus, I'm not overlooking what was created through the generations. I just need to: place my bare feet on the soil of County Kerry, have the wind in hair and the mist on my face - and stand there looking at that ocean, knowing I'm there and the rest of the world it as it should be, and in harmony. I will not apply thought towards the past (I am a true student of Quantum Physics and "The Universal Laws", particularily, "The Law of Attraction" (It is absolute. When one realizes this astounding point/fact, it boggles the mind. There are very few things in life Absolute. The "LOA, death, and some say Taxes - but not true - you can opt for jail and forgo Taxes, lol" (BTW there was a renowned expert on the "LOA" from Ireland - popular in the 1960's and 1970's "Joseph Murphy" (Wonder if he was a close relative, lol - a Murphy and a Sullivan, I am - roflol and Lynch and Cole. - I believe the Lynch family may have been from Mayo, not certain. Anyway - had to share that tidbit. Thus, *"I will apply thoughts towards the now and I will affect the collective in a successful, abundance of new energies, that help the consciousness of our People gain: clarity, a higher minded mature thought aka the wisdom that lifts people up to their greater wellbeing, their greater vision, greater understanding, effective education, and the creating of a new chapter for our successes to be manifested.* This, while we apply a clear understanding to what came to be and brought us to now, gets a forward worthy motion, so *"We may and can emerge into this time with all the true gifts we have and establish a cooperation through communication towards a society, with the various Irish in outposts around the world, and all of us have at least a shared foundation goal to see the true talents and passions create an Irish and Ireland that reflects the spirit of us, all in a society that is balanced in harmony and "fully Victim no More".* Done with dignity and integrity, and we can be a symbol of living as a successful Republic and with a political system that is independent of any elite influence through Ownership's of Medias, Central Banks, and/or Financial Obligations. All great civilizations, countries, corporations, and personal successes, begin with a vision, imagination, and a clear objective. (Don't merely wish for a car - establish the objective to own a Bently!) 😁 We literally would be the only Western Culture/Country to achieve this, and to remain a collective regardless where Millions of our Irish relatives reside. It is most important to master our Ego Mind and manage that through our Higher Mind, to understand how the "Global Aspect is running and Who the Managers/Corporations are that are the actual "decisionmakers without elected government time-limits". Well, there ya go my Irish counterpart - "The Irish Dream in 2020 - awe, we're a true dreamer - but some of us got the fortitude, determination, and abilities, to JUST DO IT!" (Abilities are at their great potential when: intellect, education, experience, and efforts, are under the management of a Higher Mind/Conscious Thoughts - where Wisdom is found. Now, why don't ya get your arse' to the South Side? (But, truth be known - 5 will get ya 10, the very same Individuals Control all the Island!) Yep - they do the USA too. 🍀🍸 Slainte!
@bethbartlett5692
@bethbartlett5692 4 жыл бұрын
@@liamb5546 BTW - if Peace is the desire - focus on the desire. If one engages in the obstacles to it - that's exactly what they get - more obstacles. The way the "LOA" works - *"Where thoughts go, Energy Grows"* (. .and it can be a slippery ole habit to break - cause we have Emotion/feelings and are well informed on the subjects of our Passion!) Conscious Thought Application Required and "The reasoning to understand - this is How the Universe is set up and works" Jesus taught this - and 2000 years later Quantum Physics Discovered it. That's some pretty solid references and Jesus was/is BOSS IMPRESSIVE COOL. The man was Genius and he has Contacts! I like him! (The Mustard Seed, Ask and ye shall Receive, the Body is a Temple of God) 3 resources to the point. Oh - and no problem whether ya have wine or grape juice for communion - I don't judge.
@chrisbugden4288
@chrisbugden4288 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Emmet was my great great great grandfather
@Scoob505
@Scoob505 3 жыл бұрын
He had children?...
@Scoob505
@Scoob505 3 жыл бұрын
Unless he is your great great great grand uncle, he isnt your ggg grandfather, his brother survived and moved to America and had children.
@chrisbugden4288
@chrisbugden4288 3 жыл бұрын
No they fled to England and changed the spelling to Emmett instead of Emmet
@Scoob505
@Scoob505 3 жыл бұрын
But Robert didn't have children with Sarah. And Thomas Emmet did flee to America.
@OSB911
@OSB911 3 жыл бұрын
I think perhaps you are confusing Robert with his brother, Thomas.
@MsMary-op6rz
@MsMary-op6rz 4 жыл бұрын
❤️
@rambojp73
@rambojp73 Жыл бұрын
Up The Provos 🍀🇮🇪🍀
@RoseUnseen
@RoseUnseen 4 жыл бұрын
Come out you Black and Tan !
@Seansaighdeoir
@Seansaighdeoir 3 жыл бұрын
I think one aspect of this and the whole United Irishmen story is that these men were freemasons inspired by the freemasonic rebellions in France and the United States. There were freemason rebellions across Europe at this time. Both the rebellions in France and the US were led and managed by freemasons and were definitely not the working class movements or disenfranchised working people. These were powerful individuals and groups and the inspiration and the reason for which they adhered to lost in the fervour of patriotism. America has largely been ruled by the same people as the rulers over the rest of Europe. These are all unique related bloodlines so what the aim was is unclear. The setting up of the United States was a freemason venture and nearly all the signatories to the Declaration of Independence were slave owning freemasons. The US was certainly not set up to bring about the scenario where Joe Public can take over. It was and is a corporate entity and have been run as such ever since with direct links into the City of London - another freemason stronghold. What happened in Ireland is never clear but the parties were both rich groups and the likes of the poor never had a chance. They were merely tools for the rich to exploit. No change there.
@MrBagpipes
@MrBagpipes 8 ай бұрын
Freemasons (heavily) involved in those revolutions? Yes. Freemason revolutions? A very substantial over simplification of things.
@Seansaighdeoir
@Seansaighdeoir 8 ай бұрын
@@MrBagpipes The United Irishmen were Freemasons to a man. Whatever the Catholic disaffection may have been which they were happy to tap into it was a Freemasonic venture the same as the French which was totally Freemason inspired through the lodges. The UI also were heavily dependent on the French for success although failure to deliver more than the 1000 troops landed in Mayo meant they were doomed to failure. As you don't offer anything more substantial in terms of analysis beyond your final remark there's nothing more to say. Only that the same thing happened 50 years later in '48. This was the Young movement which was organised across Europe by Giuseppe Mazzini Europe's leading Freemason.
@MrBagpipes
@MrBagpipes 8 ай бұрын
@@Seansaighdeoir you're indulging in hyperbole again. And your knowledge of the French Revolution is obviously poor if you can kid on it was entirely inspired through lodges. It wasn't. They played a role as did other agencies. You'd understand these differences if you actually understood what you're trying to talk about. A little knowledge is always a dangerous thing. Saying you've nothing more to says more about you than anyone else.
@Seansaighdeoir
@Seansaighdeoir 8 ай бұрын
@@MrBagpipes It was an illuminist project run through the lodges (mainly Paris) so in that respect it was Freemasonic. You have no idea what I understand or don't because you are too busy sniping about what it is you think I'm saying rather than just actually inquiring. The rest is just projection. I put forward a vague analysis as that is the best that can be done on such a forum. You have just indulged in ad hom because in reality you cannot avoid the fact of freemasonic inspired revolutions although illuminist in essence, of the 18th century revolutions or the occult nature of Young Ireland and the IRB and the links to all of the above. I think we are done here.
@MrBagpipes
@MrBagpipes 8 ай бұрын
@@Seansaighdeoir what I think you're saying? You're saying silly stuff. Nonsense about 1789 and 1798 being entirely Masonic enterprises. You're on here waffling about how every single United Irishman was a Mason. It's cringey. The leadership of the United Irishmen had a substantial number of Masons. It wasn't all. It's more ordinary membership was not remotely close to being entirely Masonic. Freemasonry was definitely a much underestimated vehicle for like minded French Enlightenment thinkers to come together then later communicate/conspire. But it wasn't all Masons and it wasn't close to all Revolutionaries. It was a small percentage of both. Continental Freemasonry may have been influenced by the Enlightenment and The Reformation but by definition Freemasonry is a very broad chruch and you'll have some fun trying to persuade anyone that it has any clear political goals let alone revolutionary ones. You're just full of exaggeration, sweeping statements and only being able to see a small part of the picture. This is twice now you've said you've nothing else to say. Try to stick to it this time. 👍
@brendaorourke2469
@brendaorourke2469 2 жыл бұрын
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