The Tragic Self Destruction of Helldivers 2

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[@Nikos.]

Update: The battle is over, the Helldivers won. Sony seems to have back tracked and decided not to go forward with the required PSN update. I'm so glad I was wrong about the potential for nothing to change. Still remember to be careful who or what you sign your work to. This video is a sequel video to my Complete Helldivers Lore video I just uploaded, watch it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJuan6OPm7-rfM0

[@theeldestrelic]

What really terrifies me is the fact that they want my face, full name, id card, and all that. But they want it connected to something that has Root level access on my computer, So not only is it Sony at kernel level, but they want all my info to pair to my data.

[@volf3r505]

I know you are jumping on this for CLOUT and sweet sweet AdRev but ... THE CEO ADMITTED ON TWITTER that THEY KNEW 6 MONTHS IN ADVANCE for this and still did what they did. Let the game, the studio and PHONY go to hell.

[@ahmataevo]

I'm glad I never got this game. I've had this feeling for a few years now that there's going to be some huge catch with big, popular projects like this.

[@chickenwings6172]

I hate when people do no research So Sony and Arrowhead knew Helldivers 2 would need to sign into PSN and never told anyone So they let people buy the game even tho 170 countries do not have access to PSN They let people buy the game for 3 months and said nothing knowing it would need PSN 3 months later

[@idleeidolon]

11:43 in the Philippines and Vietnam and in Ukraine too, i think, you can make a PSN account from a PS4 or a PS5 console. not online. the website droplist of available countries does not include ours. you can if you OWN a PS. making buying the console a semi requirement. this is why people pirate.

[@Npc1488-wc1kf]

Its not about money Its about forcing behavior Which means there can be no compromise in pushing back

[@Phoenix-ct]

Do we become an insurgency?

[@user-uh7mw3dd1l]

They are killing Helldivers 2 on purpose. If gamers get used to reasonable microtransactions, quality products worth the price of admission, and developers who stand up to woke ideologies, that's going to be the standard going forward. They don't want that to be the standard going forward.

[@electricitysgaming5383]

​@@Phoenix-ct yes

[@ngchloe4877]

I think it's just stupid business practices. Companies can just he run by idiots sometimes ya know

[@Pentatonic0824]

​@@ngchloe4877not when all of them are doing the same thing its intentional

[@yaypeace3792]

a steam comment put it best "I was having so much fun, I forgot about corporate greed for a moment"

[@Damaged7]

A company isn't greedy for wanting money. A company is greedy for sacrificing morals or decency to take advantage of people. Sony is one that is greedy, 90% of devs or publishers our there are not.

[@rockspoon6528]

How the fuck do these corpos justify their existence? Future interviewer: "What is something you've accomplished?" Former Sony employee: "We single-handedly turned one of the most popular games in the world into a smoldering shitstorm."

[@abandoned.connector]

...did you make money of it? -uhhh... Yeah 3$ Great you're hired!

[@sophisthemlock246]

Interviewer: "Did you at least succeed?" Sony employee: "Nope. We were defeated by a thumb"

[@Ostyr.]

Activision: your hired

[@SolemnProject]

All my homies hate Sony

[@Ewerboweski]

I suppose I am your homie now too.

[@NovaMaster375]

Man even the non-homies hate em

[@Npc1488-wc1kf]

I need better friends like yours

[@KamenriderRX99]

I fucking hate Sony 😤

[@MasterChef1957]

Fuck Sony bro fuck Microsoft they both fucking ruin everything 😤

[@bruhmoment879]

Report them for stock manipulation

[@somethingorother9263]

To who? The people who manipulate stock???

[@nukerbob4992]

@@somethingorother9263the eu tends to care a shit load

[@Puttis]

EU w

[@Lpzjrd]

@@nukerbob4992classic EU W

[@cpresuttis]

Might be something withing the Better business buere? Probly nothing but it's worth a look? Lol

[@mukkah]

Helldivers traveling the galaxy might come across ancient ruins and other curiosities. Just remember: Only a traitor is curious about PSN accounts!

[@coconator5357]

You know, when you create a close-knit community and you encourage it, when it turns against you, it's hard.

[@broits3am]

Arrowhead actually were letting people tank the reviews and review bomb the game so that they could use it as leverage against Sony

[@alaricvis09]

I changed my review and uninstalled. But I'm going to go one step further. Sony's earnings call is tomorrow. I'm selling all my S&P shares and putting all that money into shorting Sony. Hopefully, I'll get a piece of Sony to make up for this betrayal. One thing is for sure: I will never touch another product tainted by Sony ever again.

[@paytreonsuhks]

imagine if all gamers shorted sony on the same day.

[@alaricvis09]

@@paytreonsuhks I'm also a WSB guy, so I've seen crazier things happen.

[@commanderwhite12]

​@@paytreonsuhksperhaps it's time to spread the word lol

[@BARACKOBMNANA]

Think it'd be smart to email Sony directly as well

[@darkmaster9k9]

except earnings is 5/14

[@randomxgen6167]

7:58 It was Sony's decision to sell the game worldwide because they're the publisher who negotiates with storefronts. If we take their words at face value, that it was always the plan to require PSN, then they deliberately and sold the game to regions that do not have PSN access. Let me say that again. According to Sony, they deliberately sold a product that they knew would not function.

[@Ace11Sky]

We didn't just adopt this game we ran after it, chased it, and fought for it. I like to think we still are. Hours of waiting in queue, hard coded player caps, game crashes, reinstallations, and changing firewall settings to let the anti cheat work. We the community fell in love with the gameplay and the vision, so much that we would put up with a lot during the launch and the weeks following. It was finally a mainstream game that respected our time, our money, and us as players. Something we've been starved from in modern gaming with only a few recent exceptions. (Lethal company, Baldur's gate 3, and Helldivers 2 felt like a renaissance in gaming.) The devs and CEO talked with us and kept open comms giving feedback which was mostly good. (The only exception being the one dev going on a power trip after the railgun nerf, but that was a minor footwork.) I believe that this community will change the reviews and much of the goodwill between the players and devs if this choice is reversed. It's been a while since I've been a part of such a tight, unified, and passionate community. I urge everyone who has or will leave a negative review to only change their review if Sony's decision is reversed, and that you shouldn't forget to do so.

[@TimmyMicBobbins]

I will be changing it back along with all my homies. As long as they back track the change.

[@TegridyGenetics]

I'll rebuy the game if they reverse this and completely stand down on any and all lawsuits

[@nova8747]

I'll revert my review if Arrowhead manages to reel Sony in, as unlikely as that seems. I don't blame Arrowhead, but corporations really don't speak any languages, most don't give a shit about review scores anyway, but if it starts to effect brand perception, or their bottomline, they'll compromise real quick.

[@SolemnProject]

I’m not reading that paragraph @nikos

[@cclione777]

Well said.

[@somethingorother9263]

Sony has committed treason against superearth.

[@GeoStreber]

Sony just officially backtracked. on the PlayStation account on Twitter, they said that PSN won't be required. WE WON.

[@bananapeel2684]

@@GeoStreber WE LIBERATED THEM AND SPREAD DEMOCRACY THROUGH THE COMPANIES!

[@samogonbrother]

@@GeoStreber still cant buy the game in those regions, no a win

[@SpectatingDog]

Time to revert back to lethal company

[@Nikos.]

I never stopped playing lethal company tho heheheh

[@SpectatingDog]

@@Nikos. same, but the amount of videos have. Sad :(

[@Nikos.]

@@SpectatingDog Unfortunately I got really busy a couple months ago... but have been recording v50 so get ready >:)

[@sub-fivessurvival]

Back to Liberating Pokemons in Palworld

[@dripdolphin3575]

back to a 20 yr old game (cs players crying rn)

[@pockitangel3398]

As horrible as this all is, I am SO PROUD of the community. We’re not sheep, we are soldiers; soldiers of democracy. We aren’t just accepting this because Sony are too big to fight. We are ALL fighting. Gentleman, this is democracy manifest.

[@jonny_codphilo7809]

delusional reeeeetard

[@Reaperance]

have a look at the headlock there! What is the charge, eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?

[@anggisuwandi2404]

Time to make these Super Earth Bureaucracy BS regret their decision to mess around our HQ

[@Darkwater1886]

Players :You were the chosen one HD You were meant to change AAA not join them. Sony: I HATE YOU!!!!

[@AndiZ-j3c]

"We gonna go to lethal" *"And i don't mean by injection"* "Might as well be though" *"The greed is an infection"*

[@Nikos.]

lethal company?

[@vemulashriniketh8109]

​@@Nikos. Yep, it's a parody of the song "So lethal" by Jt music

[@maxxpower3d6]

WEEEE LOOOVE THE COMPANY

[@NotKameron]

If only there was another game where you fight bugs and robots with 4 player co-op oh wait ROCK AND STONE

[@Xinxax]

I dont like it cause it feels clunky and disorienting

[@hoebloify]

seriously, i laugh at all this helldivers drama...morons, should have seen this coming with that N protect Gamer Guard malware root kit on their machines, terrible weapon balance and changes... duuuuuuh

[@Fivespark144]

ROCK AND STONE BROTHER

[@snoweh1]

​@@XinxaxI've got 1k hours in DRG and I'd say Helldivers 2 is much clunkier. What feels clunky about DRG in your opinion?

[@elkpants1280]

@@Xinxaxdisorienting yea clunky no

[@InVeRnyak]

Russian diver here (~42 hours). Buying most of games via shady sites been go-to way since start of ru-ukr conflict, because VISA ban (or smth like that). Line "This item is currently unavailable in your region" is pretty common, and i cant directly put money into steam in a first place. So, didnt even question why HD2 is not avaliable, got it as gift. Luckily (???) i broke my left arm and got cast on it about week ago, so wasnt able to play anyway. Just waiting for that disaster to be hopefully fixed. Didnt even try to make PSN account so far, never had PS console of any gen.

[@broits3am]

Damn that is wild

[@anandgarde13]

Remember how Andrew Garfield got dropped as Spider-Man for acknowledging the Sony data breaches even happened?

[@thathandsomedevil0828]

Whoa, I did not know that!!

[@danielsdimension2003]

How embarrassing that Sony trashed this game so fast.

[@jonny_codphilo7809]

it works fine for me its the same as it was a week ago

[@Ozmourne]

@@jonny_codphilo7809 Thats because its not gone into effect yet. June 4th is final date & only 70 countries have PSN services. Rest of the world is fucked

[@Zombiesbum]

@@jonny_codphilo7809 Changes are not live yet silly.

[@nakiangoderich3014]

@@jonny_codphilo7809 What are you even talking about? The game ain’t “broken.” The issue is that HUNDREDS of countries can no longer play the game without illegally making a PSN account as it’s not supported in their regions. Sony has also been known for having the highest security breaches a company can have.

[@jamiedown8884]

​@@jonny_codphilo7809it's not going to be in effect until june

[@Atzy]

Correction: Arrowhead did not decide where to sell the game. Sony is the publisher, they run the Steam page and set up regions for sale and prices which makes the fumble to sell the game in non PSN countries even more baffling. It does seem like not even Sony understands how PSN works

[@echoesofmalachor3700]

Seems hard to wrap your head around why sony seems so determined to tank their own game. But then again, HD2 enraged the AAA industry by proving a great game doesn’t require a $70+ price tag.

[@BongicusMaximus]

It's not self-destruction. The developers do not want this. This is entirely Sony.

[@tobiramasenju7462]

Don't be a fool arrowhead knew the entire time....

[@ZantTheMan]

@@tobiramasenju7462 but they never wanted it

[@mareizia]

They knew , didn't inform people through the game and rely on other sns to communicate with the community at large, Sony just made sure it goes through So more of a 80/20

[@tobiramasenju7462]

@ZantTheMan that doesn't make it right lmao.... so if I were to rob you but didn't really want to does that make it right?....

[@AC-iz7eh]

Pilestadt was too high on the moon over their game's success he forgot about this issue

[@HallowOKin]

Also want to add, in most parts of the world Sony DEMANDS your government ID to even register your account. What a joke.

[@jonny_codphilo7809]

no they dont

[@peterdicak9133]

Yes they do​@@jonny_codphilo7809

[@lordgrey5223]

@@jonny_codphilo7809 yes they do

[@AzraelThanatos]

@@jonny_codphilo7809The UK one has been shown the most, though there are others, and require either the government ID or a full on facial ID biometric scan to set it up

[@broits3am]

My account was registered in the US I wasn’t asked for a government idea thankfully

[@ReveredDead]

We need a Johnny Silverhand figure in todays world.

[@lastboss4268]

please......

[@bam_bino__]

i dont think anyone should nuke sony

[@lolilikedragons3528]

Someone to actually stand up and fight for the common people

[@DAZzler3K]

Sorry, Bro, he can't, he died last year: Robert John Linder aka Johnny Silverhand (born November 16th, 1988, died August 20th, 2023) This is from the official CP 2020 lore as stated in the _Firestorm - Shockwave_ sourcebook.

[@humanname3258]

August 20th, 2024 *Sony Tower*

[@SouthbayCreations]

I’m not in a restricted country but I won’t play the game again. It’s unfortunate because I absolutely loved this game but it’s not fair to my fellow Helldivers, I stand with them! If they can’t play then I choose NOT to play. Refund me and sony keep their corporate BS to themselves.

[@rapipocudo8690]

Yeah, im not playing to, even tho i can make a PSN *We dive togheter, or we don't dive at all*

[@RigobertosTacoShop]

I could easily link my steam and psn. I still have my old one I could dust off and recover the password. But I’d rather fight against corporate bullshit if it leads to knocking any of them down a few pegs. It’s the least I could do after 15 years of all my favorite IP’s being buttfucked.

[@darkalleywaystudio3975]

I left a negative review and uninstalled. I did not refund in the event they walk back but I doubt it. I’m glad we all stand together in our final battle it seems. If this is the last of Helldivers, it was a pleasure serving with my fellow Helldivers 🤘

[@harmless9336]

We dive together or not at all.

[@jakeariaa]

You’re not alone. But while I was doing my review I have a shit ton of hours 664, what a waste for a good I’d it can’t get sorted. Pretty broken hahahaha

[@Mountain8ear]

As soon as I saw how popular the game was, I knew something like this was coming. That's why I never bothered trying to play it in the first place. I just knew that something bad was going to happen. I could feel it in my bones.

[@enriqueperezarce5485]

You were right sadly

[@Iluvantir]

I had that feeling back in late Feb... but I gave in and bought it. Glad I did (201 hours of fun had - some good memories)... but hell no! Not getting PSN account, never mind linking my Steam account to it! That's utterly crazy talk. Sony can pound sand for all I care. Won't be getting anything else they produce - and I was readying up to buy Ghost of Tsushima when the port releases. Even if I can play that in Single Player without PSN, I don't trust them to change the rules on me, nor do I want to give them even a penny of my money again anyway.

[@RigobertosTacoShop]

Sometimes being the contrarian pays off. Fuck me for trying to be less of one I guess lol

[@destroything]

A yee a yee ah there's magic in my bones

[@Mountain8ear]

I'm super surprised that they reversed their decision. Wow.

[@Butter_Warrior99]

Even when it’s double a, publishers ruin everything.

[@MasterChief203]

And if it's AAA the studio does it themselves

[@Butter_Warrior99]

@@MasterChief203 Well, yes.

[@ARStudios2000]

Devolver Digital is a pretty good publisher imo

[@conchobharpatterson1871]

I feel like this is a sad warning to never hand your passion project to a AAA studio or publisher.

[@dramir5953]

Sony did not mention the amount of countries that doesnt support PSN intentionally to arrowhead. Because Sony needs numbers to show for their investors, and arrowhead wouldve absolutely said no to them if they saw that 177 countries cant do PSN. TLDR, Sony KNEW what they were doing, but had to stay hush for the cash.

[@edwardemersonnavales8285]

My friend is actually raging right now because he can't make a PSN account. And yes we are actually from the Philippines. And yes, FUCK SONY!!! Note: My friend can log in the game right now but the servers would automatically kick him out.

[@les121476]

It's not just Sony Arrowhead signed the contract They knew about this six months ago and didn't say anything

[@chickeninabucket-b5v]

@@les121476No they forced they hand

[@ducle3595]

@@les121476 go to his tweet and read he did explain in there, something about the sever load

[@thathandsomedevil0828]

​@@les121476Sony decided to sell the games in countries without psn coverage. Pretty much a Sony decision if you ask me.

[@DeadTube5000]

The friggin' GameCube startup sound over that bar chart got me. Hell if I can explain it. Thanks for the laugh, man.

[@Dolemite19]

It's multiple reasons why this game was sabotaged. 1. If helldivers 2 continued to dominate it was going to reset the gaming market away from the scam pay to win model these other studios went all in with the below average Battle passes/cosmetics , incomplete pre releases ,and the overpricing titles while at the same time they bleed 💰 from the play base stuffing their pockets. 2 not having pvp in hell divers 2 allowed the community to work together basically keeping the cut throat mentality away compared to other pvp communities that can't get on the same page because of the rat race tunnel vision of being no .1 in that community causing a lack of unity. We seen how that unity from the helldivers community got the devs attention quick fast and in a hurry and that's a problem these studios don't want because that's too many people in different countries around the world 🌎 working together for a cause even if it is a video game.3. the inspired knockoff in helldivers 2 is 10 times better than the actual Starship troopers game pretty much making that game worthless. Bascilly In tin foil hat conclusion helldivers 2 came in the door 🚪 and stepped on too many toes while in the process of messing up the churches Money 💰 on the gaming shenanigans gamers are going through with other studios . Let's remember Sony is a umbrella for those other studios also can't to let one that Sony has little investment with to cause other studios that Sony has a bigger investment with to lose money. It's all about protecting the house of cards when you look at the gaming environment

[@ReigoVassal]

In short, Helldivers overstep their place by being the good pro consumer game.

[@Dolemite19]

@@ReigoVassal 💯🎯💯🎯💯

[@cclione777]

There might be a nugget of wisdom in here somewhere.

[@tehbone8604]

Or maybe this game was artificially pumped with paid PR and bots. Backed by Sony. A greedy company with bad intentions. The game literally has predatory micro transactions. The game exceeded expectations because of their PR campaign so they decided to go one step further and force pc users to join their network. Pc users are now 100 hrs deep and -40$ less. Unable to refund and forced to link their data to their network. No tinfoil hat needed.

[@mernyr]

A guy named Legal Mindset said Sony is possibly open to a class action lawsuit due to how they’ve acted during this whole fiasco.

[@xxcrazymanxx1001]

The big monopolies don't want to risk losing the big chair so they gotta squash the competition

[@somethingorother9263]

My bank actually sent me a new debit card and reallocated my resources because of a sony hack.

[@badassito5790]

No one spected to see that the third enemy of super earth was its own publisher...

[@jameshill2168]

HD2 came out in 2024

[@Nikos.]

Lmao even all my videos talk about the game coming out this spring, had a brainlet moment writing this script this morning 😂

[@jameshill2168]

@@Nikos. happens lmao

[@elitefdc2171]

lol Starship Troopers seems good now

[@CowboyAquatics]

Even if they only get 10,000 new signups to the PSN. I get the feeling Sony will consider it a success rather than back down.

[@alexanderforrest1983]

All we need to have a very strong chance of change us for one or more investors now or during the earnings call to question them and grill them on WTF is going on. That will usually scare them and cause the stock to get a little wobbly and possibly get them to go back on the decision. That is to assume that the shareholders have any common sense or situational awareness and I don’t tend to believe they do.

[@AzraelThanatos]

Especially with the timing, because they have one of their big financial reports coming up

[@JacobEastward]

Ha jokes on them, I have a Xbox… oh wait a minute 😢

[@COMPYCUBE]

I know. But we will fight on the sidelines to get the boys in green on the battlefield. As for now, good luck fellow Xbox player.

[@Nikos.]

These changes are disappointing, but I am thankful we even got this game at this rate. Be nice to the devs, they're trying to help the situation. I hope we can reach a positive resolution on this game. Thanks for watching gents.

[@somethingorother9263]

Sony is treason!!!!

[@CavTanker88]

The head of the studio admitted they knew about this situation 6 months before launch. Stop simping for the millionaire company.

[@manos7958]

I believe this could be the greatest contribution of Sony in modern gaming. Even if only a few people realize that they keep paying "Buying" prices for merely renting a game it will be a step in the right direction.

[@brizzled5193]

@@CavTanker88 They never published said game, they had only produced the product. Snoy went as far as to changing their wording on their website Just 2 days ago, Not to mention they did this right around the corner of their shareholders meeting which is tomorrow. To me this sounds like a intention move of Snoy. #fucksnoy

[@Loridak-q1p]

its sad because I intended on getting this game, and now I don't feel like learning about it with the sony requirement on there

[@Radicalbeast]

Remember Fellow Playatation Divers to also 1 star review on sony's shop. Let them know we stand in Solidarity with our PC brethren !

[@gamephreak5]

HAH! Like they actually care about the PC base! Ponies have their head too far up their own arse to give a crap about what the PC gamers are facing from Sony! They ALL defend Sony in this, they say so themselves!! Yours is a nice sentiment, though.

[@hunterkinsella5303]

Super Earth may be lost... But the mines are always open- ROCK AND STONE

[@douglastaylor43]

The CEO disabled it once. They can do it again. Be who you can be, the game is huge, force Sony to renegotiate.

[@bam_bino__]

they'd be sued into oblivion for breach of contract, it's a nice thought but it'd ruin them for life

[@NephritduGrey]

@@bam_bino__ Well, the company should simply claim "technical difficulties" then, as if courts would know 2 sheds about game development anyway hence Sony would just lose money in a lawsuit against the developer.

[@cossacktwofive4974]

Will players from the countries that had been walled out from buying the game will come back and reconsider buying the game? What is happening is betrayal of customer's trust to the franchise.

[@douglastaylor43]

It's like when a sports player out plays their contract and sits out for a new one.

[@wereowl9369]

Looks away from scroll... "that one didn't age quite so well" Good job Helldivers. :)

[@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778]

It feels like this sabotage was intentional. Like the higher ups saw a popular game that was fun, and said "A fun game in 2024? Nah, We need more competitive movie game slop." and decided to sabotage the game so that people couldn't play it and have fun anymore. Because this game, lethal company, palworld, all the recent successes. Have shown gamers that gaming can be fun and it pin pointed exactly what was missing from modern gaming. This is stuff big triple A studios don't want gamers to remember, I think this is why alot of these people try to avoid talking about halo in any discussion and shut it down. because they know if people actually knew how good halo was and how bungie was to the halo community back int he 2000s, they would realize how much better it was back then. The truth is these big studios, they want everything to be a fortnite live service model. One that deceives everyone into thinking its a fair and fun time. but its really a lesser product to what we used to get, that is used as a storefront for cosmetics. which btw, Video game microtransactions are as valuable as NFTs are. Now Compared to halo 3s customization which would always stay with no matter if the servers went offline. This game had the same design philosophy that halo did where fun mattered the most. Any other triple A developer wouldn't have let you shoot shoot limbs off the enemies or down the automaton dropships or let your mech dropship ram into a bile titan and defeat it. (yes that happened to me once. Any other triple A developer would look at that and say "Ummm that breaks balance and competitive, lets patch it out, this game should be static and not have any form of randomness or fun" Just like what 343 did with the tank gun and pelican glitches in infinites campaign. its very sad to see a similar situation happen. sony had their golden goose, they got rid of it now. Just like what Microsoft did to bungie. All I can do is thank helldivers 2 for proving that games need to be focused on fun and that things could be better for gaming, they need to drop the fortnite style stuff. Its getting tiresome.

[@Angelo_Nicolson]

While not excusing the CEO's actions, Sony is the publisher and should have not sold Helldivers 2 in those countries. Sony should have done its own due diligence in acting as the PUBLISHER of said game. Simply selling a game to every country where your "required" services are not present, incentives's people to bypass your terms of service allowing you to ban them while retaining their money, Is not ethical.This issue would have persisted regardless of the CEO's actions. Sony relying on refunds for users not able to create a PSN account is not acceptable

[@snakeplissken3613]

I want a class action lawsuit!

[@Angelo_Nicolson]

@@snakeplissken3613 A class action lawsuit from AH for damage's caused by Sony not fulfilling its full duties as a publisher. Then AH can split away from sony like bungie did with activision. One can only dream though.

[@brizzled5193]

I am willing to defend Arrowhead since they are a extremely small studio, which I am way more forgiving to the CEOs action compared to Snoy (sony new name) Sure Arrowhead is at partial fault, but I am convinced Snoy forced AH studios to do PSN

[@halostormx7827]

@@brizzled5193soyny

[@bam_bino__]

@@Angelo_Nicolson they aren't owned by sony the just have a publishing contract with hem, they could decide to stop developing HD2 towmorow if they wanted to, unless their contract has a clause for how long they are obligated to support the game, which they probably do.

[@Hunter_2-1]

This entire reason seems to be forcing people to make a PSN account to psd their numbers and potentially to force PC players to pay for PS+ just to play the game… on a PC.

[@BUMMY105]

Helldivers 2 may had suffered, but we now have a clear visible image to the AAA companies on how fucking tired we are of them. If they STILL don't want to listen, then we will all look into the indies more and more and isolate them all and let them feel what we've felt for a VERY long time.

[@cnett486]

One thing though, according to some stuff, where the game sold was up to Sony. So supposedly Sony allowed game to be sold in countries without access to PSN, not Arrowhead. That's just what I've heard anyway.

[@isaacengelhardt1934]

Sony 500kg'd their own game

[@depressedutchman]

Nah mann... Hellbomb

[@AndrewChumKaser]

A reminder that Arrowhead are not blameless in this. They signed on for the deal, were aware of how it'd work, and only made it optional day one when it was not functional.

[@MetalGearMechWars]

At this point really none of the main console brands are good anymore Nintendo absolutely hates their fans and doesn't let anything fun be Xbox just has terrible leadership that doesn't allow for good games ansonia does stuff like and Sony does stuff like this and then there is also the third party AAA developers which are even worse

[@gamephreak5]

Nintendo is good, man. Nintendo's the only GOOD gaming company left. Mark my words, Nintendo will be the last console company standing.

[@MetalGearMechWars]

@@gamephreak5 then how come Nintendo is hell bent on ruining the reputation

[@00stratos11]

Recent news Nintendo wants to remove “Nintendo asset mods” in Gmod. There is no fun allowed in this company.

[@MetalGearMechWars]

@@00stratos11 and then also just like copyright striking KZbinrs who play their games like point Crow

[@MetalGearMechWars]

@@00stratos11 and also it seems like it's not even just mods that use Nintendo assets it's taken down someone's custom-made assets that is like Mario and stuff make something that specifically designed to be one-to-one with Mario and stuff like that

[@GoyslopGladiator]

How would they have not known? The regions your game can legally be sold seems like a really important detail?? This whole thing screams malice and greed, and I'm not sure I take a word of what the ceo says anymore. I want to love the game, but being betrayed like this kinda hurts, esp when you look at all the garbage weve gotten over the years.

[@Cloudstrife112233]

Well, I mean the game blew up beyond anything they had expected, so maybe they weren't worried or even thinking about it so much at launch cause they didn't expect this many people in all those countries to even know the game existed.

[@halfwithero5368]

I imagine they either planned it from the beginning as a bait and switch, or they saw how many people were playing and thought "O: we can get our numbers up if we make them sign up". Either way they are bastards and deserve to go down

[@siegfread9683]

Having published a game with Sony once, they control your steam sales, at least in their standard contract. I couldn't change anything about the steam page even if I wanted to.

[@Cerran032]

ArrowHead has spent months uniting a massive playerbase, and Sony managed to piss off every single one of them in under 48 hours I’d almost be impressed if I wasn’t so frustrated

[@thecameraman8648]

I have to say. You did a great job summarizing the kerfuffle Sony has caused. Made me realized how much worse this decision's branching consequences will lead to.

[@Crusaderz91]

Rest In peace my game of the year 😥

[@MegasXaos]

Here's the thing, if they drop the PSN requirement for the rest of the world, why do I have to do it?

[@jonny_codphilo7809]

because you have no say in things you dont own

[@gamephreak5]

@@jonny_codphilo7809 "You vill own nozing, und be happy! You vill eet ze bugs, und be happy!"

[@Aserox]

The crazy thing is, if they made is so that; If you sign up for an OPTIONAL PSN account, you get some in game skins and goodies - I bet basically 70% of players would've signed up.

[@AdmiralNinja_]

Since the start, everyone new it was too good to be true

[@red_d849]

i read the comment you posted, but still that video ending with the end of the minecraft theme and the helldivers trailer in the background combined with your speech to end the video hit extremely fucking hard, and i cant even play helldivers nor will i probably ever, until well after the game is long dead sadness

[@meodrac]

We did it boys This is democracy manifest!! Hoy Snoy Minoy, We made a megacorp fold, me-boy

[@LoboNoir-vk8wf]

I almost hung up my cape because of not being able to reinforce democracy and saving lady liberty. I’m glad that we won against J.O.E.L’s Superiors. Looking forward to seeing everyone on the frontlines.

[@DeadByDeath]

Sony backing down on this push is just pure dopamine! We did it Super Citizens! Major Order complete! Now Sony just needs to relist the game on Steam.

[@bicopgameryttm7266]

It was steam who pulled it down for legal reasons. But yes it will soon return

[@uh-60blackhawk99]

I'm gunna miss my australian friend that I meet on helldivers 2 :(

[@asemiintelligentork8388]

I'm tired boss....

[@connoryeats8829]

"Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward." -Playstation twitter

[@Cyberstan_Broadcast_Center]

Ok. So hear me out. There's about a 30% chance that we can legally sue Sony for this.

[@thegoldencpu5870]

It’s more like 90%. EU law forbids bait-and-switch on EULAs and TOSs like this. It’s completely anti-consumer, and since this is impacting EU countries there WILL be class-action suits, and it WILL cause Sony to lose a ton of money if Sony doubles down like this. Sony has absolutely no clue on what they’re doing. Their leadership is completely senile.

[@jonny_codphilo7809]

your dumb

[@depressedutchman]

I believe they are breaking some eu laws

[@ChangedCauseYT-HateFoxNames]

Even 1% is acceptable odds to try for our brothers and sisters.

[@neck-o]

The saddest thing about corporate greed is that this situation is just a speck of dust in the grander schemes in this world itself. Corporations are destroying our real life Earth, and games were suppose to divert our attention but even here corporate greed has come to manifest.

[@JiangtaoHu]

The game was so good that I almost forgot about corporate greed... Edit: WE DID IT GUYS!! SCREW SONY!!!

[@depressedutchman]

I was playing Cyberpunk at the same time (so i got reminded of corporate constantly) But I'm fully able to make am account, but nah mate I'm done fuck Sony

[@callmepopyallfather2473]

They signed their souls away for a head start. The devil came to collect. Tragic.

[@cromcccxvi3787]

IT IS BANKING LAWS! If your country doesn't submit to USA/ The Central Banking Cartels AML/KYC (Anti Money Laundering - Know Your Customer) Laws, you can't have a PSN Account... we can't have you talking to Russians, Chinese and the bad guys, what if you start thinking they aren't evil? or what if you send $10 across PSN Network to some poor guy in Congo and destroy the scam economy we created for them?

[@EarnestEdwinEarnerThe3rd]

hell divers 2 is a genuinely great game and all i can hope is that it does not die because of this.

[@WaterComputer]

We’ve WON, VICTORY For Democracy 😭🎉🎉🎉

[@Acesahn]

Helldivers: Look familiar? Stellar Blade: Yes...

[@louiswain9139]

Update, they fixed it

[@Epsilon-18]

A moment of silence for the community manager who sacrificed himself for all Helldivers.

[@GreenArc]

this new halo game looks crazy

[@starhammer5247]

Player numbers dropped like a block of Tungsten.

[@JTMGJTMG]

Sony reversed its decision 😍

[@cactusman1771]

6:30 battlefield 1942 theme. One of my all time favorite games.

[@whiskey6964]

WE WON

[@noahland5580]

I’ve never even played the game but this pisses me off. We need to stop rewarding corporate greed otherwise they will continue to do things like this in the future.

[@k1ck0ff]

i REFUSE to believe Arrowhead "Didn't know" how many countries could not have PSN. They absolutely must have know. And now they try to act the good guy to turn the ship against sony when they see how much all this backfired.

[@Croutonking65]

I could believe it. Sony is the publisher so they had the distribution rights. For Arrowhead to believe that some users would be locked out of the game, they’d have to assume that Sony knowingly sold to countries that couldn’t comply with Sony’s own policy.

[@themissingpeace7956]

PlayStation 5/5/2024 - 9:30PM PST: Helldivers fans -- we've heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward. We're still learning what is best for PC players and your feedback has been invaluable. Thanks again for your continued support of Helldivers 2 and we'll keep you updated on future plans. There is still hope Helldivers!

[@GameyManatee3]

Spread the message ’Sony does not support Ukraine’ 😉

[@bluedream5095]

What does Ukraine have to do with Sony

[@cossacktwofive4974]

Ironically, the devs and Sony made Helldivers 2 as a "First world only" game. So much for the latter's "inclusion" message. And no, PSN is not available in the Philippines ever since the first PS3 came out nearly two decades ago. We either have to set region to Singapore or Hong Kong just to access PSN.

[@Phoenixguy357]

The problem is capitalism

[@mooty.]

L capitalism

[@BadNyaruko]

yeah and then the say dont be a commy.... sure ,make it easier then....

[@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778]

Managed democracy would be better. So we can defeat the corporate algorithms, soy bugs and the libtardacus automatons.

[@Saviliana]

The problem is UNCHECKED capitalism, capitalism in small scale works, but it limits to really small scales.

[@saralotti7174]

A corporate oligarchy isn’t capitalism imo. It’s facism imo.

[@Fabian-bo8tw]

Sony just announced they will not be requiring linking PSN accounts

[@petko021tv]

I really agree with the ending speech. Never sell yourself out. Be big by being good.

[@callumward7503]

"Injustice in the end produces independence." Voltaire

[@edgardovaldez9775]

The closing comments were really insightful! I'm glad I watched the whole video!

[@theeldestrelic]

Sony has made, and destroyed some of the best games in the last 20 years of me gaming. They truly break my heart as a company. Greed. Kills. All.

[@----.__]

The few players left over after the Sony incident are being pushed away by bad community managers and game nerfs. It's literal fail.exe incarnate.

[@madjik1979]

Ain't gonna lie, the Gamecube Startup sound around 7:15 caught me off guard in the best way possible. EDIT:: Bonus Kudos for the wholesome message at the end.

[@senormusica81Gaming]

15:14 - you're getting my sub for that advice you gave right there!

[@erick5974]

A new enemy has emerged: “SONY” “All helldivers to pods”

[@oklord6415]

I wouldn't call it a self destruction, more like a reform to democracy

[@halozumbadaddy7459]

This is too bad. My friend and I were going to buy this game next week but I told him to hold off as soon as I heard the news. Thanks for keeping people informed and I hope to hear more updates in the near future.