The Train-Wreck Making of Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.

[@thevisorsusa]

My wife and I always thought the Klingons in this movie had cheesy makeup....we called them K-mart Klingons.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I think you and your wife are 100% correct. 😅 I love it... K-mart Klingons.

[@debelmeis2311]

Klingon Mart

[@pwc7475]

Lol! This was not the best Star Trek movie. Shatner is not to blame

[@MegaBadgeman]

I always thought the little what there was Romulan makeup was all wrong. She looked just too human. It wasn't just the makeup though, her persona lacked the arrogance Romulan ere known for.

[@ProfessorZoom2140]

I personally really enjoyed this film. I think the idea for the story is very ambitious. And they found a good way to avoid rubbing religious people the wrong way. (The ending of the comic adaptation is much better btw). Interestingly, this film almost works as a full circle with the Motion Picture, with the whole 'searching for our creator' idea. The roles are simply reversed. In the Motion Picture, an AI was looking for it's creator which is us. And in the Final Frontier, we're looking for OUR creator. They even brought Jerry Goldsmith back. A very interesting coincidence imo. I also love the character stuff and the performances, especially Sybok, he was a great antagonist in the movie. I always thought that Shatner was done dirty by the studio with this film.. especially considering how good of a job he did as the director. I don't think that it's his fault that the movie turned out the way it did. I personally would love to see a director's cut in the style of the Motion Picture. They could add deleted scenes to improve the story, and most importantly fix the VFX! This film BEGS for better visuals! But.. it seems that there's no interest in it in Paramount. What a waste. Still like this one a lot! It's very underappreciated.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I agree with you. There is something very fun and rewatchable about this movie. I watch it every year and it always holds up. 🙂

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I love your thoughtful comment. I never made the connection between Star Trek 5 and the Motion Picture. That's very brilliant!

[@ProfessorZoom2140]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast Thanks! 🙏🏼

[@MJDroz75]

"Excuse me, What does God need with a starship?" The beginning of my skepticism.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

😁

[@ivanbogdanovic7885]

I actually liked this one more than ST4, watched and rewatched it multiple times, didn't even mind the special effects and other goofy stuff because I like the characters so much.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

You're definitely in the minority! 😅 Although I agree with you that this movie is pure fun and so rewatchable.

[@janklaasen1014]

I actually totally agree with you. I thought ST4 was a bit silly. Went a bit to far with the jokes. And this one actually aged a lot better in my opinion despite the lesser special fx.

[@dolphinsrr]

I agree that's why I love this film. The characters make a film. Not the effects!

[@Whalewraith]

Connery playing Sar would definitely have brought up Zardos comparisons. Mikey Spock is even more bonkers. I love to think that maybe one day they could finish this film properly similar to the upgrade the original show got with the rock monster ending. 'Its a rock monster it doesn't have motivation '

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Wow! That's a great point. But I wonder what Connery woild have done with the role.

[@josemanolocostezuela3049]

They should let Shatner do a directors cut and have the special effects redone.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I agree. I would have loved to see a Shatner's cut using modern CGI graphics and see his vision. It wouldn't erase Sybok being Spock's half brother, but I'd live to see his vision for the finale.

[@StarshipYorktown]

Absolutely. It would be a huge hit on streaming. Edit out of some of the goofy lines, and add new starship VFX, and it will be a home run!

[@Torquemada70]

I have read that he's petitioned them for this at least once, but got turned down. He wanted to do a 'Ten to the power' video which zoomed in from space to him climbing El Capitan, for example

[@StarshipYorktown]

@@Torquemada70 I think he needs a small team to help guide him on this. Go in with scissors and fix what needs fixing, and add new VFX. He would still need to work with the music score, so creating new scenes like zooming in on him from space likely couldn't happen.

[@dolphinsrr]

​@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcastscrew CGI. It's fine as it is. Don't insult the people who worked very hard on the film. And erased what they did. How would you feel if they erased your work? Enuff said!

[@SteveMoncuse]

Although there were some interesting facts, the AI narration on these videos keeps getting worse instead of better. Like, how many different ways can pronounce Nimoy? My personal favorite is N'moy.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Let me know if you think the Star Wars video is better. That's just me talking off the cuff. Maybe I should just do it that way.

[@davidc.2878]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast I would totally drop the AI and use your own voice

[@bobacrey1068]

N'moy is a very Vulcan way of saying and spelling it

[@passatboi]

If you're using text to speech, you need to type out proper nouns phonetically. Otherwise you get things like "Daisy Arnaz", "Dee Forest", "Sy-book", etc. Just type them out as Dezzi, Duh-forest, Sigh-bock, etc.

[@ilexgarodan]

Agreed. The AI narrator's quality (or lack thereof) completely drew me out of the video a few times.

[@janklaasen1014]

This film is so underrated. The scenes where Kirk Say's. I don't want you to take my pain away. I need my Pain. It makes me who I am. What might be greatest message any Star Trek has given. We need our painful memories. The mistakes that we made. The bad things we experienced. Because without them. We would not be the person that we are today. I mean that is such a good and profound and insightful message. I also think it is way better then TS4 because i always thought that one was always a bit silly. They went to far with the jokes. This one also aged a lot better. Despite having lesser good special effects. The more I think about this film. The more I like it. This is a good movie.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I have a soft spot for this film. This movie is a lot of fun, and has a lot of rewatchability. I also think it is a very good Star Trek story. On the other hand, I personally love ST4.

[@captaingenius-o1c]

5 was silly. Scotty hitting hit head and knocking himself out, like it was the 3 stooges. Trying to redo Star Wars with the bar and cat lady with 3 boobs....The ship being not ready to go anywhere, YET they have to take it, which was already done in Star Trek 1 and would be done again in the TNG film Generations. Another Klingon outlaw, which was already done in ST3....I mean it goes on and on how little imagination was done on this film...Oh, the Nexus is so difficult to get through, it's done in a minute...If you like painful memories, perhaps you've had a tough life, but it does NOT make for a good star trek film, which Wrath of Khan also went over difficulties of the past etc. .

[@janklaasen1014]

@@captaingenius-o1c Nexus is TS Generations Dude. Now that was a bad movie. Damm. But has nothing to do with this movie. I love Wrath of Kahn but I don't see any message in that one. Let alone one that is the same as this one. But hey It's an opinion.

[@janklaasen1014]

​@@captaingenius-o1c I can't even remember the Klingon outlaw. For somebody that hates this movie, you remember more from it than I do. I can't remember Wrath of Kahn really having any message. Let alone one similar to this one. But Wrath of Kahn is a great movie. Btw nexus is featured in Generations. Not this one. But I like this movie. It's my opinion. Don't know why you would think that bitching about this movie would change my opinion about it. Perhaps you're not so much of a genius after all. Captain.

[@dolphinsrr]

​@captaingeniuevery Star Trek film as issuess-o1c

[@matthewgaudet4064]

At least Shatner got Jerry Goldsmith.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Can you imagine this movie WITHOUT Jerry Goldsmith's score? 😁

[@zekeigtos7240]

I was at the Star Trek convention where Shanter announced he was going to be the director of Star Trek 5 and it was clear he had a chip on his shoulder about how Nimoy had directed both Star Trek III and IV and it was clear he was trying to outdo his costar and didn't really care if the movie was actually any good.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Thank you for this comment. I really got that sense as well. I also got the sense from reading "I am Spock" that Nimoy was like, "Oh, so you think you can do it, too? Go for it. Show me up." Haha. 🤣

[@hambone5718]

Mr. Ego. Great job acting as Kirk, But in real life, Mr. Ego...

[@patrickperalta59]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast I'm sorry you mis-pronounced his name.........his name is Desi Arnez........not Daisy ......keep up the good work on your video.

[@dolphinsrr]

It was good!

[@dolphinsrr]

​@hambone571you be surprised how many actors have a big ego! Doesn't matter to me!

[@gserhardt]

I remember heading to the theater all by my lonesome to see this and just somehow knowing I would be disappointed. Loved Trek all my life but I just had a weird feeling about this one. I don't outright hate it but I don't watch it much at all, either. The soundtrack was pretty much the only truly good thing about it.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I also saw it in the theater. 😃My college buddy took me for my birthday. We had fun, but it was clearly inferior to the previous 3 films.

[@brianarbenz1329]

Interesting to learn of the purely human failings and missteps of a great movie crew. Makes them be just like us.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

That's a great point. It definitely humanizes everyone involved.

[@thelbtlover]

It's amazing that such a train-wreck of a movie is 1,000,000x better than the "Star Trek" of today.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

You got that right.

[@alvinbanks]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast I too agree.

[@rartu]

That's why they put a rock monster in Galaxy Quest!

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Yup. And the world is much better for it!

[@cortezpaschal1913]

The camaraderie scenes between the crewmates are the only thing worth watching

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Shatner did a great job with that. The crew had great chemistry on screen.

[@pdjward]

Kirk: What does God need with a starship?

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I loved that line!

[@konradx498]

McCoy: "Jim, you don't ask the Almighty for his I.D.!"

[@dolphinsrr]

Not a train wreck as you claim. It's quite good.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

That's cool that you like it. 😀 I like this one as well, and I have a soft spot for it. Its fun and rewatchable and it is pure Star Trek. I binge the series every year and I never miss Star Trek 5.

[@tomedmonds8347]

That Chekov half brother joke was 🔥.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Thank you! 😄

[@MAZE4]

I think not being able to hire ILM to do the visual effects definitely didn't help.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I know! It makes you wonder what this film could have been idlf ILM did thr special effects.

[@MAZE4]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast it would have done better at the box office had it had good VFX.

[@jorgezarco9269]

Shatner was the voice of Commander Berzerk on Eek! The Cat.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Really? That's great! 😀

[@quietearthMT78]

Another weird point about this movie is Sybok's haircut. The whole movie Sybok has long hair but when they arrive at the "GOD" planet and beam down he suddenly has short hair. I mean I guess it makes sense to clean up a bit before meeting GOD but he really stopped off at the Enterprise barber while Kirk and the rest hung around the transporter room waiting? 🤪

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Dude. That is seriously funny and just made me laugh out loud just now! 🤣

[@dolphinsrr]

Maybe! 😉🤣😆

[@ericsahagun5344]

It was good to hear that the cast was happy with shatner's enthusiastic ability to get the crew liking being directed by him I'm gladly surprised to hear it! Always been a James T. Kirk fan but I've had major issues with William Shatner With all his negativity of Star Trek first with the conventions him playing TJ Hooker and the S9 things he said about police unbrutality! After experiencing it with Hollywood PD rampart PD and even Arcadia PD

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

It appears that whatever happened during the TV show was water under the bridge by Star Trek 5. They all continued to be friends long after.

[@Torquemada70]

To me, 5 is the most like the original series out of all of them. It has the comedy of 4, but not non-stop like 4 either. Would certainly take it over the likes of Avatar (and many other much better performing movies). Bones seeing his secret pain is fantastic and horribly tragic at the same time - that alone is worth it alone, as is "......I was wrong"

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

You are so right! This movie is fun and VERY Star Trek!

[@davidc.2878]

That was a good scene and very affecting for Kelley to play, as he reported. Maybe this is where Shatner's strengths as an actor's director came in.

[@richardlitchfield1387]

I certainly didn't like this movie, but I always felt it was made with good intentions. For that reason alone, I can't say I hate it. I treat Star Trek 5 the same way I treat a bad episode like Spock's Brain or Turnabout Intruder. But don't get me started on the Next Generation movies... specifically Insurrection. Also, I will take a William Shatner misstep over anything by JJ Abrams

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I agree! There is something very rewatchable and fun about this movie. And you can't argue, it's pure Star Trek!

[@davidc.2878]

Why are the TNG movies all so bad? First Contact is the best of them but it's still worse than just about all the TOS films. That might be worth exploring, Mr. Totally awesome films. Is it because they gave Data the emotion chip? Is it because Frakes is a TV director, not a film director (see Shatner problem in V)? Is it because the scripts were idiotic? Is it because they kept destroying the Enterprise--that scene where they crash land the Enterprise D and then have a conversation amidst what is obvious set wreckage is so disillusioning--it ruins the magic--just like JJ Abrams trying to pass off a brewery as the engine room of the Enterprise (probably the worst set in all of Star Trek history).

[@matthewgaudet4064]

The scimitar battle in Nemesis is riveting but the rest of the movie is pretty awful. I didn't hate any of the features but Beyond was leaden and nearly as bad as Nemesis. It did kill the film franchise.

[@Whalewraith]

The interactions between Kirk,Spock & McCoy save this movie.​@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast

[@captaingenius-o1c]

I saw a video where Patrick Stewart helped ruin Insurrection, due to the fact, he had 'script approval' into his contract and the original ideas were changed dramatically.......Stewart with his failed Picard series has shown he is an actor first, and nothing 2nd. Insurrection was the end of TNG....I still remember sitting in an EMPTY theater after it had only been out a few weeks(I still went to movies then).....

[@MegaBadgeman]

The only real gripe for me was the number of decks shown in the elevator the heroe used to get to the top. The decks shown in Scotty's guide to the Enterprise shows 26. Also the time taken for the Enterprise to get to the center of the galaxy make no sense at all. They could've said it was a unknown location that just appeared when the plot needed it to.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Interesting.

[@switchmuso]

12:42 I love that Galaxy Quest gave William Shatner the scene he always wanted... Excellent Star Trek movies series @TotallyAwesomeFilms !!! Watched them all, loved them all... Seriously, many television channels could use your expertise.Your team is exceptional. Yes, the voiceover is obviously synthetic, ¿maybe the script too? If so, I realise that I don't mind being educated by AI. 'Cos I'm organic as fuck.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Thanks for the kind words. The script is totally my own that I wrote after extensive research. I've been podcasting about movies for 12 years so I have a lot if mivie knowledge but the KZbin channel is only 2 months old. As for the AI voice, its my clined voice but Ive had some problems with it. The Star Wars and the Breakdown videos ate me just talking in my natural voice and talking on the cuff. I'd li5ve to hear your opinion if I should just use my own voice from here on out.

[@dolphinsrr]

​@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcastyes your own voice is fine.

[@MontyScott1]

I always had a soft spot for STV. The chemistry between the characters was spot on due to the subtle humour which Shatner perfectly brought in. He really understood the TOS characters. We saw great sets like never before and Jerry Goldsmith‘s score was so beautiful. In the end Shatner didn’t make a bad movie, his ambitions and visions just clashed with a tight budget and he could not work around it. Unfortunately

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I agree with you. Ultimately, it is a fun, infinitely rewatchable movie that fits in well with the Star Trek series. There's a lot to like here!

[@graytonw5238]

This movie was just sad to watch. Luckinbill's character was actually not bad, kind of charismatic (which he was supposed to be), but everything else? I groaned at the rock-climbing scene with Spock in those ridiculous boots, at the sing-a-long, at the revelation that Spock all of a sudden had a half-brother, at the escape with Kirk and McCoy holding on to Spock, there was just so much groan-worthy material. Oh, one good thing I remember, Kirk's question, "Excuse me, what does God need with a star ship?" That was pretty funny.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

The scene where Sulu and Checkov, two expert navigators try to pretend that they are stuck in a blizzard. That's hard to watch. 🤣

[@uramess4666]

Daisy Arnez??? ROFLMAO well he was always seen poolside in his Desi-dukes.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Yeah, I totally screwed up. Haha! 🤣 weird things come out of your mouth when you're on a roll. But I should have corrected that one. Too late to correct now. I have to live with the cringe. 😁 It's inexcusable.

[@dolphinsrr]

So he made a mistake. Don't use him! 😅😂

[@tyrantbossmedia2230]

DAISY Arnez?!?! His name is DEZI. Wow man.

[@skranz2732]

Thanks for making the comment I was going to make 😂

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Yeah, I screwed up.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Of course I know it's DEZI. 🤣 but when you're on a roll, weird things just come out! 🤣🤣🤣

[@ennsma]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcastIs a human reading this? I thought it was a bot, tbh. The cadence and pauses within words is not natural.

[@futureboy314]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcastDUDE JUST STOP USING AI NARRATION. Not only is it bad, but it casts doubt on how much else of this is you? Is AI writing the script? No way to know, but now I know it’s at least possible. Seriously. I won’t click on another one of these, and I’m going to have KZbin stop recommending your channel. For the sake of your KZbin career, I highly recommend you cut it out.

[@paularc1899]

Shatner got screwed :(

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

A lot of the things were certainly beyond his control. In the end, he made a fun film.

[@countgeekula9143]

Despite its issues I still love this movie. I like the basic story and everything with Kirk Spock and McCoy is great. The sequence where McCoy relives his father's death is so well acted and directed as is Kirk's refusal to lose his pain. Also Kirk asking 'God' what he needs with a starship is one of THE greatest Kirk moments. Plus Goldsmith's gorgeous score. It's a shame the script didn't get a couple more drafts to fix issues and ILM couldn't do the FX. Maybe this movie was just a bit too ambitious for its own good.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I agree with you. Despite all of its flaws, there is something very enjoyable and rewatchable about this film. I rewatch the entire Star Trek film franchise every year, and I never skip this one. It fits in well with the series. I wonder what ILM's D tea could have done with the special effects.

[@gregsaum1701]

Producer Ralph Winter recently spoke at a viewing of Trek 5 and stated that contrary to what we’ve been told, the choice not to use ILM was his alone. It had nothing to do with their busy schedule but rather he wanted to save a few million bucks. He said flat out that its a decision that almost killed the franchise and he learned a very painful lesson as a young producer. Also, Kirk was always scripted to be at Yosemite. It was Sulu and Chekov who are lost at Mt Rushmore. The cut scene was included on the DVD and they show the image of Rushmore with the added face. But they cut it because they felt it wouldn’t play well.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Oh my god! That's incredible information. I HAVE the Star Trek 5 DVD with all the extras. I need to watch it again!

[@rdbull5890]

Funny how Shatner thought the rock monster looked bad, but tbh it looks better than a lot of the other effects shots that ended up in the film. Heck, the Gorn looked even sillier and that episode is a classic.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Haha! You're right. The rock monster looked better than the cartoony looking "God".

[@Monkofmagnesia]

Harve Bennet to Shatner: I have major concerns about this rock creature you fight. Shatner: What Harve did not realize was that it wasn't a rock. It was Rock Monster!!!

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

🤣

[@free322001]

Somebody WENT/ Under a dock.....

[@picklerick4944]

Spock never mentioned his adopted sister, the bestest evar, Mikey Spock

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Haha! You got that right!

[@KOZMOGRAFX]

Ha, what could have been... Captain Kirk, marooned and taunted by his adversary, yells into his communicator "CONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNery!!!!"

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

That's hilarious!

[@sonnyd.6777]

I liked it. The let down was the special FX.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I agree. This movie is a lot of fun.

[@theflorgeormix]

Jim Bakker lol Surveying gaseous anomalies. That's an insulting mission

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Especially with no payoff!

[@omegaman1409]

Televangelist on the enterprise. Couldn't wait to hear the next sermon.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

🤣🤣🤣

[@DeanMatthewMusic]

I like this movie. I never thought it was as bad as some.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I also find this movie fun and rewatchable. It's pure Star Trek fun.

[@markrowlett6921]

The take away lesson is, "Never let Bombastic Buffoon William Shatner direct feature films." Although, he's even worse as an actor. Has been ham & hack!

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

😲 Oh No, you didn't. 🤣🤣🤣 I think this movie humbled him.

[@jonathanhernandez4304]

William Shatner has many good qualities. For his intellectual limits, he truly surpassed what would normally be expected of him with T.J Hooker and other director highlights. He's a solid 6 (1-10 directors talent scale for TV) But for movies he's trying to hit above his league. Leonard Nimoy (obviously a man of more intellect) was a methodical, imaginative, research driven director who had the capacity to handle big screen productions. Bill would have commanded more respect if he was just a co-director. Better yet, just stick to his TV show productions. No Shame in that Bill. BUT NOOO....you had to shoot beyond your abilities .....

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

True. True.

[@dolphinsrr]

Wouldn't you want to try? I give bill credit for it. It's not that bad!

[@gallery7596]

It's surprising the effects were so underwhelming considering Bran Ferren's work for "Little Shop Of Horrors" look pretty good even by today's standards.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I know. Little Shop of Horrors looks so good. Interestingly, Bran Ferren went on to have a brilliant career in Hollywood and Business. Check out his Wikipedia page. He certainly recovered from this disaster. It's a lesson not to let one failure drag you down.

[@entreprenerd1963]

Heck, _The Abyss_ SFX were done by ILM's C-team!?! *That* was deep talent.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I agree. ILM's D team would have been more than good enough for this movie.

[@steveloafe]

Regarding the theme music. It has been said that during the opening music "The Mountain" that you just knew this was going to be the best Trek movie ever. Then the theme faded out.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Haha! But you're right. You can't deny that this is one of Jerry Goldmith's best!

[@EvilTheOne]

Being a life long Trek fan, when this movie hit the theaters, it was such a disaster! I remember walking out and thinking 'what the heck are they doing to Trek?'.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

That's crazy that you walked out. My friends took me to see this on my Birthday. We had a good time, although we recognized it was dar inferior than the last 3 movies.

[@EvilTheOne]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast I didn't mean to mislead anyone into thinking that I left before the movie was finished, I stayed through every agonizing minute of it. Sometimes, sci-fi movies try to be so ambitious with their ideas, that they fall flat...this one did. Sadly, in my assessment, it was a bad movie.

[@captaingenius-o1c]

Shatner like Patrick Stewart have proven they both SUCK at actually being in charge of shows now. But actors are like x players, where they ALL think they can coach and be commentators.....They are not captains in real life.

[@EvilTheOne]

@@captaingenius-o1c Along with my love for sci-fi, I love sports also. As Captains have proven that they're not great directors, the same can be said about sports stars. 'Magic' Johnson proved to be a bad basketball coach, and Michael Jordan was a bad GM; these guys just excelled on the court. And in football, I haven't seen any superstar starting QBs elevate themselves to be a great head coach. Getting back to Trek, only Avery Brooks did a solid job as a former Captain/director. Still he didn't venture outside of Trek to make his name as a full-fledged director. Instead he walked away from Hollywood and into teaching. Our hats-off to Nimoy and Frakes! And all of the lower ranking members who went onto become solid diectors (i.e. Biggs-Dawson, etc...).

[@enriquesinghjr]

If that's CGI from the late 80s its pretty impressive (I doubt its CGI).

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

It was bad CGI for the time. It was worse than the previous films.

[@cyphi474]

ILM would struggle with Enterprise paint aswell, so it wasnt all theirs fault. It was Paramount executives who allowed it to be repainted. Shatner was maybe overly ambitious with special effects, but blame lies on Paramount too. Why they didnt ask ILM before starting filming if they have capacity. Indiana Jones, Abyss and Ghostbusters 2 were released same year, so if they delayed filming few months, they could have best special effects without competing with those movies.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Thank yoy for thr extra info! You sure know your Star Trek 5! Keep the information coming for my other videos!

[@newyorkerinvegas]

The bridge would be used twice in Star Trek 6 as both the Enterprise-A and Excelsior bridges. Then used as the Enterprise-B bridge and as the control room of the Amargosa Observatory in Star Trek Generations.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Great info! Thank you for your comment.

[@newyorkerinvegas]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast Great video! Loving your channel. Keep up the great work!

[@wecanholdfeet2922]

I really like this movie. Fun Trek adventure

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I agree. It is so much fun and infinitely rewwatchable. I never skip it when I binge the series.

[@henrywallacesghost5883]

This movie isn't good but is not as bad as it's reputation.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I agree! There is something very rewatchable and fun about this movie. I usually revisit the franchise about every year, and watch all the movies back to back, and I never skip Star Trek 5. Thank you for your comment!

[@Ehrenfried2740]

All Star Trek Movies are a mirror of its time and the "big thing" going on at this time... ST4 whales ST5 religion St6 cold war etc.... These movies aged like fine wine, even the worst star trek movies are good compared to many movies of today. That's why i always rewatch old stuff... The older i get the better the movies get.

[@michaelmcparland7681]

I love this movie. I'm tired of hearing it get dumped on.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

The story is flawed and there are a lot of cringe moments, but you can't deny how much fun the movie is.

[@dolphinsrr]

​@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcastother Trek films the storyline are flawed. It is what it is!

[@c1waters]

I liked them all, my least favorite was ST 4, stealing whales.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

No. That one is my favorite! 😁 Still, thank you for watching and for your comment!

[@marinakaye8284]

I loved that one!

[@dolphinsrr]

Question since they took her in the future why didn't Kirk do that in the city on the edge of forever for Edith keeler?

[@dolphinsrr]

Me too. 4 is my least favorite. Since most love it!

[@whocraft3614]

I do prefer Star Trek V to Star Trek Generations. If I keep my expectations low, I'm not horrified or annoyed by Star Trek V. Maybe it helps that I was really young when I saw it for the first time.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

You're right. I had fun with Star Trek V. Generations is just weird.

[@hombre1965]

Sounds like all this needed was ILM. Shatner made a heroic effort.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Well, and a much better story. 🤣 But ILM would have been a huge improvement.

[@jimjam51075]

Star Trek V: Spock has a half brother, yeah...but he had to for the script to work better. Discovery: HOLD MUH BEER AN' GIMME THE KEYS TO YER FERRARI, CHUMP!

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Haha! You got that right! I can rewatch Star Trek V hundreds of times and have fun. Discovery.... ?

[@jimjam51075]

Lol, I watched the pilot for Discovery, but had to nope out.

[@AlexCBrandon]

I would rather narrate videos like this myself on the cheap than have AI do it, but the information is indeed fascinating.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Its my voice. Check out my Star Wars video where I just talk off the cuff. Let me know if its better.

[@Pug71]

Thank God they did not end the original cast on this movie. It’s a shame that the special effects were so terrible bc this movie had potential. But even had the special effects been top notch, the entire half brother was such a terrible idea that the entire movie was probably doomed no matter what. The ending special effects were beyond watchable and just put the nail in the coffin.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

The special effects were laughable indeed. And I never cared for the half-brother idea.

[@davidc.2878]

'What does God need with a starship?" was always a good line--and very Star Trek, another uppity alien with a God complex. Too bad it didn't have a better excecution in terms of the effects.

[@jkleylein]

I don't understand what "Totally Awesome Films" and Star Trek V have to do with each other. It's a cringe-inducing mess.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Ha! I see what you did there.🤣

[@NunGarry]

Well I think . This is it. ❤

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Thank you! 😄

[@SniffHeinkel]

Paramount had little faith in Shatner as a director, refused to give him extra money to improve the visual effects, and questioned why the film turned out the way it did. Man, come on now.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Shatner was lucky Nick Meyer said No, or they would have fired him and rellaced him with Meyer. Meyer was smart not to want to step into that one.

[@dolphinsrr]

​@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcastthe film was fine. None of the Trek films was perfect! Most films in general are not perfect! It is what it is!

[@christophersnyder1532]

Yeah, Shatner almost made Star Trek, the final frontier for the franchise, until Nicholas Meyer came back to resuscitate it back in, The Undiscovered Country, like he did in The Wrath Of Khan. Take care, and all the best.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Thank you! I'm currently working on the video for Undiscovered Country. Keep watching!

[@christophersnyder1532]

@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast Todd Bryant, who portrays Captain Klaa, was also the translator in the Kingon courtroom scene, in The Undiscoverd Country. Take care, and all the best.

[@SFDestiny]

Daisy Arnaz! 😆😆

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Yeah, I screwed up. It's too late to fix now, but I wished I fixed it before I released it. That was inexcusable. 😁

[@MikeFugily-hj3ok]

I dont mind any of them. Thoght they wete all good, of course some stand out more than others.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

The entire series of Star Trek 2 to Star Trek 6 is so rewatchable. I like to rewatch the series every year.

[@roquefortfiles]

They didn't need Nicholas Meyer or William Shatner. They needed Terry Gilliam. He could have realized all of this silly shit and made it look fabulous.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Oh my Goodness. A Star Trek movie directed by Terry Gilliam would be a complete out of body experience. He's one of my favorite directors of all time.

[@roquefortfiles]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast I was never a Trekie. But I am a huge fan of Carl Sagan and Cosmos. I actually really liked Star Trek the Motion Picture. I didn't mind that it was viewed as a bit "Dry" and not faithful to the show. I thought it was a very intriguing and interesting story line. That Voyager has been in space so long that it acquires intelligence. I thought that was a very interesting idea. I could totally see Carl in the spaceship of the imagination smiling in wonder. The Motion picture made me appreciate Star Trek.

[@hayesc0]

I realize this movie is considered bad, but after seeing Nutrek my perspective on what i consider bad Star Trek shifted. I actually like this movie ok now lol.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Haha! You got that right! This movie is fun and rewatchable and is VERY Star Trek.

[@hayesc0]

@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast For sure, lol. Even movies like Nemesis and Insurrection are OK to me now, lol. Star Trek from 82-05 I can watch just about any of it back now and enjoy it.

[@michaelreed4744]

It seems like a nice film.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

You need to see it. I think the first 6 Star Trek films, make up a great bingeable series.

[@Waterboyofsuperman]

For me the movie story just lacks so much potential. Starting with a story that ramped up tension with Klingons, or followed up on the Klingon fury about him from Star Trek IV, and was a more modest bottle-type movie (a la Star Trek II) would have served audiences much more richly. They easily could have done something with rehabilitating the Bird of Prey, for instance, and had some spycraft or espionage elements to the story. Easily my least favorite Star Trek movie, and very difficult for me to see how it could be significantly improved with just better special effects. And to be honest, the special effects never looked all that horrible to me. And of course the score was fantastic. I also didn’t know Shatner’s cast mates had a good experience on set, which is nice.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Thank you so much for your thoughtful comment. I agree that Goldsmith's score was fantastic. I hope you check out my next video, Undiscovered Country.

[@aaronatwood9298]

I honestly see what ST5 could have been, i still enjoy it more than ST1. St5 feels more like an average TOS episode. Besides the obvious fx failures and other movies, there were many other factors aginst this movie. William Shatner honestly didn't do bad as director, the biggest sins were the FX and the editing. "Deck 78"😂

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I agree. I still maintain that this movie is fun and highly rewatchable. And it is pure Star Trek!

[@aaronatwood9298]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast Use your normal voice, the Cadence of the voice in this was rather painfully bland and full of overrun sentences. Its the perfect Voice for ST 1... or a MacPlus

[@yw1971]

14:59 - Just to compare - 'Return of the Jedi' had a 35Mil budget & some of the best SFX even today. Shatner choose poorly

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

He sure did. 😀

[@dolphinsrr]

Maybe the producer's chose badly? Have you thought of that?

[@yw1971]

@@dolphinsrr Director has the final word

[@MrJsbach123]

the shuttle craft scene effects were atrocious 😂

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

You're right, the effects looked cartoony.

[@captaingenius-o1c]

Kinda surprised someone hasn't RE-done the effects, as I've seen with the original Star Trek and other movies. It would have helped 5, but it was still a dumb film.

[@danidua100]

Hiring a subpar VFX company and releasing the movie against Batman? It was doomed

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

It didnt even have a chance. 😃

[@dolphinsrr]

I don't remember the effects being that bad when first released. Guess I need to check it out again. Even though I seen it a few times in the past. I'll pay more attention to it this time!

[@liontone]

With some additional editing, and FX redos, it could be vastly improved.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I agree. I was hoping they would let Shatner redo the special effects with modern CGI.

[@gallery7596]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast If Shatner (like James Cameron would do years later) had offered to give up part or all his salaries to both star in AND direct, I wonder if Paramount might've given him the time to improve the effects and do some reshoots? Certainly worked in the case of "Titanic."

[@Knightfall182]

7:27 Michael Burnham 😐😐

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Ha! I know it. It's like they didnt learn a single lesson. 🤣

[@psychbomb7543]

The Shat.🤟🏻

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Haha! 🤣🤣🤣

[@Gen-X-Memories]

I saw it at the movies and I thought it was terrible. Don't care to ever see it again.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

It was not good, but there is something fun about it.

[@Gen-X-Memories]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast It was like Shatner was trying to change the characters themselves. Trying to make Spock more funny. The whole movie had a forced comedic tone that just didn't come across good at all. I think Shatner directing the movie was a huge mistake. Thank God the final film came out and turned out as good as it was. Could you imagine if V had been the last movie the original cast ever made?

[@ronwilliams9985]

It wasnt CGI. Just bad blue screen and super imposing FX. Star Trek Insurrection was the first Trek movie to use CGI ( Computer Generated Image) FX.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Nope. You are right. It was actually the model from Star Trek The Motion Picture that the guys at Universal ruined with spray paint. 🤣

[@scottvela2944]

Train wreck isn’t harsh at all. After a few weeks it did well at the box office then it fell off. Shatners co stars felt he was a giving director. It was his editing that was sloppy forcing Bennett re doing it . himself. Paramount should have fired the effects company liked they did for the Motion Picture.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

You are so right. But Bran Ferren was simply overwhelmed and under qualified. He didnt con the team like Robert Able did with The Motion Picture. 🤣 Thank you for your comment.

[@StarshipYorktown]

A few scenes need to be cut from Star Trek V to make it a better film. It would be incredibly easy to cut the line "I know this ship like the back of my hand" with Scotty bumping his head, and the whole scene of Scotty and Uhura in sickbay could be cut. Cut the scene of Spock holding Kirk and McCoy using the rocket boots in the elevator shaft. Redo all of the starship VFX for the film.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I wish they had let Shatner do a modern director's cut with CGI and maybe he would have fuxed some of it. Although nothing could help the story.

[@StarshipYorktown]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast The story is what it is now, but being that Shatner is now 93, it would be nice if the studio let him fix the film. He has said in the past that he would like to, if given the chance.

[@goofyiest]

wow, the 'C' team did the Abyss? how good would the 'D' team have been? Holy crap!

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I think ILM's D team would have done a very good job.

[@GackFinder]

Huh, one would think that one of the TNG-movies would've gotten a Razzie as well. Both Generations and insurrection are pretty terrible, and Nemesis is god awful.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I totally agree. Generations, Insurrection, and Nemesis are all way worse than Final Frontier. Then again, you have to have some notoriety and cache to even be nominated. Those films weren't even noticed by the Razzies. 🤣

[@9Lando945]

Just when you think the AI voice is better it gets worse again.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Haha!

[@brettthebassist]

Star Trek 5-The search for a new director 🤦🏻

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Ha! That's a good one. 🤣

[@ericsahagun5344]

The guy who played sybok looked nothing like Sean Connery Give me a break!

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Laurence Luckinbill looked a little bit like Sean Connery, no?

[@youtuuba]

"Daisy Arnaz"?

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Yeah. That one is inexcusable!

[@stanleydomalewski8497]

I Thought it was Average, but OK !

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I agree with you. It's not the greatest Star Trek, but it's fun and rewatchable!

[@hambone5718]

Star trek went to the well too many times...Sometimes things get overdone and thus ruined... Times change and younger people taking the reins, just don't understand and ruin the concept..

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Star Trek was certainly incredible back in the day. But I must admit, I am enjoying Strange New Worlds.

[@TheEmpressPalpatine]

I remember liking the movie. It reminded me of a few Bible movies, the overthrowing of a false god. Sybok was this desert prophet, right out of stories of Moses or Mohammed. Kirk overthrew false gods before so the story tied in with the old Star Trek series. It seemed like a poke at those that bring "peace" to places that have people in them that will never be peaceful, like the middle east. The movie seemed like a big parody of religious cults and international politics. I thought of the 1979 hostages in Iran. It also had a lot of funny scenes. I like all the Star Trek movies up through this one. I did not like the "Undiscovered Country." That was a lame retelling of the fall of the Soviet Union.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I live your analysis of the movie. I hope you check out my video on Undiscovered Country which should come out next week!

[@TheEmpressPalpatine]

@@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast I definitely will.

[@markfox1545]

Sean Connery?! That would've been an absolute joke - this super Godlike alien would've had a Scottish accent, that's all Connery could do, he was fucking useless. 😅😅😅

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

🤣🤣🤣 That's hilarious.

[@alexmac1999]

Would love to have seen him in the Shearch for Shpock

[@georgehenderson7783]

As Spock would say... fascinating! Did not know hardly any of this! Love the movie though! Love the opening scene in Yosemite Park!

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Thank you so much for the compliment. I hope you check out my video on Undiscovered Country, and all the videos I've made so far. Enjoy!

[@historybuff66]

I really, really dislike this film. I knew I was in trouble when I saw its initial release in the theater with the cringe acting and dialog in the opening scene at Yosemite Nat’l Park. Jerry Goldsmith almost saved Shatner’s botched mess-but just almost.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

So true! That opening with Kirk climbing the mountain is pure Shatner Ego! And Spock catching him is just bad. But you are right! Jerry Goldsmith's theme is awesome.

[@destronia123]

This movie smacked of ego.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

You are so right. I think this movie helped to curb Shatner's ego. He became funnier and more self-effacing after this film.

[@dolphinsrr]

Oh please. What Hollywood film makers don't have egos. Their only human!

[@destronia123]

@dolphinsrr Sometimes those egos lead to an excellent production. In this case it was just Shatner being jealous of Nimoy's directoral accolades and creating a steaming pile of self-parody.

[@musicauthority674]

As an Atheist, I thought this movie was an excellent satire on religious freaks and religion in general. since you religious freaks will believe anything. religion destroys everything it touches.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Thank you for your comment. 🙂

[@MegaBadgeman]

Not to mention the double standards of the evangelists.

[@frankpinmtl]

Who is this Daisy Arnez you speak of?

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

🤣

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I think it's Lucy and Desi's pet flower. No, seriously, I screwed up! 🤣

[@davidc.2878]

I have to say that while it was an awful movie--and your insights about the special effects problems are very informative--a 70 million dollar profit with global receipts included doesn't sound all that bad to me. It seems the perceptions of a film's monetary success is often far too tied to the expectations game.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

You're right. Nowadays, a movie is lucky if it doesn't lose $100 million, much less make a profit. This movie was still profitable and very profitable if you include video sales.

[@StarshipYorktown]

In reality the movie was a hit, because it has been making money from Blu-Ray and DVD boxsets for decades. By now, Star Trek V had made well over $100 million dollars.

[@scifiguy26]

This movie needs a serious remastering the special effects are God awful 🤮the Enterprise looks like a cardboard cutout & all they had to do was make sybok his long lost uncle or something not his brother 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Making Sybok a long lost uncle would have been so much better! And I agree. They should let Shatner remaster this movie with CGI.

[@cpaek72]

Good effects or not, this movie was terrible. Shatner was the wrong choice.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Haha. Tell us how you really feel. No, seriously. Its not very good but you can't deny that it is fun and very rewatchable. Watch my video ranking the Star Trek movies.

[@sovak75]

The movie didn’t fail because of the poor VFX. It failed because it was a bad story and the handful of decent character moments couldn’t save it.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

I think you're right.

[@bryanparkhurst17]

Have you ever seen this movie? You're pronouncing all of the names wrong.

[@TotallyAwesomeFilmsPodcast]

Haha! You're right.