The trashiest of all miracle heaters (with schematic)

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I bought three different flame effect PTC style "miracle heaters". Two turned out to be the same style despite having different listing pictures, and this one (which cost the same!) turned out to be somewhat less complex (huge understatement).
I think the best way to avoid this heater is to make sure you buy one with a remote control. This one does work, but is perhaps a bit simplistic compared to the others.
It is totally scavengable though, with a pretty good flame effect and useful heater section that could also be a source of resistance wire for custom heating elements.
It's notable that the rotating mirrored mylar blades give a great scaled down Star Trek warp-core effect if used with blue LEDs.
This unit is freestanding with a thin flex of unknown electrical integrity, but I think we can safely assume that it will be the crappiest copper coated aluminium type stuff. It's also easy to knock over, so that thermal fuse and plastic front grill may be tested at some point.
The schematic does bear a strong resemblance to a hair dryer with extra effects, and that is kinda because it is...
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@tonyweavers4292
@tonyweavers4292 2 жыл бұрын
Once the fan motor fails, you probably won't need the flame effect!
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 2 жыл бұрын
No yo might need to redecorate after and pick the plastic out of the carpet. 🔥🤣🤣
@markmarkofkane8167
@markmarkofkane8167 Жыл бұрын
You would be able to distinguish the real flame from the fake!
@kitecattestecke2303
@kitecattestecke2303 Жыл бұрын
There was some kind of thermal fuse behind the motor strapped to the wires, Clive just misted that I think
@jkobain
@jkobain Жыл бұрын
@@kitecattestecke2303 he mentioned it at least twice; and I seriously doubt it will have a chance to cut the power off.
@justgary4342
@justgary4342 Жыл бұрын
3:00
@micahnightwolf
@micahnightwolf Жыл бұрын
If you build a man a fire, he'll stay warm for a night. If you set a man on fire, he'll stay warm for the rest of his life. At least that's the philosophy of whoever designed these heaters.
@XFolf
@XFolf Жыл бұрын
Beat me to it.
@whitesapphire5865
@whitesapphire5865 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! So all we need is gallon of petrol each, and we're warm for the rest of our days! I like the thinking behind that, but there's just one slight snag with that! 🤦🎆💨🤣🤷
@therealjammit
@therealjammit Жыл бұрын
@@XFolf Same here.
@vihreelinja4743
@vihreelinja4743 Жыл бұрын
@@whitesapphire5865 no snag. try it with youre friends :D
@Grim_Beard
@Grim_Beard Жыл бұрын
GNU Pterry
@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 2 жыл бұрын
It is appropriate to have flames animated. This is an early warning for what will happen to your house.
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 Жыл бұрын
There's a scene from the I.T. Crowd which makes me look at something like this and think only one thing... 😳 „Made in Britain!” 🔥🇬🇧🙃
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 Жыл бұрын
The "log display" looks like a pile of dog turds, so when you turn it on, you should have the forewarning and the spectacular "Burning Dogshit" alarm before finally laying waste to your rug.
@musicnerd72
@musicnerd72 Жыл бұрын
@@buckstarchaser2376 🤣 I thought exactly the same thing!
@noisepuppet
@noisepuppet Жыл бұрын
@@buckstarchaser2376 sold elsewhere as the Turdblaster 9000
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 Жыл бұрын
@@noisepuppet There's room in any home for an electric Flammenschiser .
@fgaviator
@fgaviator Жыл бұрын
These cheap house igniters never disappoint... 🔥🙂
@gudenau
@gudenau Жыл бұрын
The second I saw the flicker and heard the noise I went "I bet there is just a diode on that switch because it's cheap and easy", these sorts of things are always funny in a terrifying way.
@mattbailey1515
@mattbailey1515 Жыл бұрын
I had exactly the same thought lol
@Eken-Eken
@Eken-Eken Жыл бұрын
I had the same but that diode is also under rated. as the average might only be 180W, the peek will still be the 360W.
@chrisreynolds6331
@chrisreynolds6331 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. In half wave mode I they could have made it much more stable if they had added a smoothing capacitor
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 Жыл бұрын
Yepp here too :)
@mjouwbuis
@mjouwbuis Жыл бұрын
A diode is in no way funny or terrifying. It's just a safe and clever solution that's used in hair dryers all the time.
@sullivanrachael
@sullivanrachael Жыл бұрын
I think Clive should arrange (under laboratory conditions) some gentle torture for this heater. It would be interesting to slightly restrict the airflow and see what catches fire before the thermal trip goes?
@DetroitFettyghost
@DetroitFettyghost Жыл бұрын
Agree
@colinmiles1052
@colinmiles1052 Жыл бұрын
Definitely!
@NinoJoel
@NinoJoel Жыл бұрын
As an electrician that is literally scared of Electric fan heaters this is pretty much my worst nightmare.
@waqasahmed939
@waqasahmed939 Жыл бұрын
Any particular reason? Do you also dislike oil filled radiators for instance?
@NinoJoel
@NinoJoel Жыл бұрын
@@waqasahmed939 oil filled ones are fine. Since they most of the time have a self regulating heater element that is incapable of producing to much heat for the radiator to dissipate. The reason why I dislike fan heaters is simple. They are tremendously unsafe when operating unattended. I've seen 2 houses that I had to rebuild because a fan heater that caused a massive fire. It was not pleasant to walk through the burned down romms seeing the leftovers and the things the family owned. I'll forever rember that smell and the destroyed lives they left behind. Statistically they have a good likelihood to be the cause of an electrical fire if there is one. And seeing how on most of them there is only one single ridiculously cheap thermal fuse that keeps them from burning when they tip over or the fan fails that is just not something I'd like to have running in my house . Same goes for old heater based Clothes dryers. If I use a fan heater then I'll stay near it or use it on a surface that is incapable of burning. Also there is a large disaster involving these heaters that has been burned in my memory. It's quite popular but I forgot the name. A skii resort used train like transportation and they had a failing heater on board causing a burned down train with almost all of the passengers slowly and horrificaly dying. My mother used the same one days prior.
@NinoJoel
@NinoJoel Жыл бұрын
It was the Kaprun disaster
@grlpeterson
@grlpeterson Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but it's so terribly portable! Take your fire everywhere. No, I mean... FIRE!!! CALL 911! OR 999 if you're 'cross the pond!
@Sigmarr
@Sigmarr Жыл бұрын
I have a scary story for you: i once had a fan heater plugged into the end of a 6 segment extention cord stretching like 200 feet and had to unplug it in the middle of the chain because the hester was still running BUT 5 of the plugs had completly melted....
@Gunbudder
@Gunbudder Жыл бұрын
i don't know why, but these videos help a lot with my anxiety. maybe its the regularity of them or the consistency. or maybe its the revelation of mysterious technological nuggets. whatever it is, i'm glad you keep making them
@denninosyos
@denninosyos Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. Жыл бұрын
It’s Clive’s sublime narration, definitely.
@idjtoal
@idjtoal Жыл бұрын
@@Lumibear. giant Scots bear, can't go wrong. woof, sigh
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. Жыл бұрын
@@idjtoal well no disagreement there from here.
@jimcrelm9478
@jimcrelm9478 Жыл бұрын
I have anxiety and maybe it's just me, but watching KZbin all day makes it much, much worse over the course of a few days to a week, even if it is an excellent distraction (or displacement activity) at the time. But of course everyone is different.
@PushyPawn
@PushyPawn Жыл бұрын
The 'flame effect' is a very ominous prediction of what eventually awaits these plastic heaters.
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 Жыл бұрын
I like that both units seem to use the same molded red plastic logs to display the flame effect through, except one has what looks like dry brushed white paint to simulate ash. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that both heaters were made in the same factory. By the way, thanks for showing us the guts of one of these so long ago. I instantly recognized the effect and remembered the hardware upon seeing it lit up. I also remember you saying how jerky the flame would look if the mylar weren't twisted properly and here we are. See, some of us do pay attention.
@samuelfellows6923
@samuelfellows6923 Жыл бұрын
Both consist of Chineseum crap 😠
@betterthannotgoodmtb
@betterthannotgoodmtb Жыл бұрын
The moment you stated they "tapped" into the coil, I was like, please test that. And then I smiled. Thanks, your videos are brilliant!
@lodgecav490
@lodgecav490 Жыл бұрын
Its more an incendiary device than a heater. Great video Clive, thank you.
@railgap
@railgap Жыл бұрын
"you say toe-may-toe, I say toe-mah-toe..." ^_^ ;D
@Francois_Dupont
@Francois_Dupont Жыл бұрын
a gift for the in-laws?
@Oldbmwr100rs
@Oldbmwr100rs Жыл бұрын
"cheap and nasty" is the best that can be said for these! I cannot imagine any of these actually putting out enough heat to even keep a closet warm, much less a room. Mainly they waste costly electricity and that's all if you're lucky enough that it doesn't start an even more costly fire.
@darksu6947
@darksu6947 Жыл бұрын
At least the fire they start would keep you warm
@MichaelMacGyver
@MichaelMacGyver Жыл бұрын
As soon as you said "sci-fi effect" my immediate thought was the warp core in Star Trek Voyager, it had a very similar plasma flame effect look to it
@KeyboardBuster
@KeyboardBuster Жыл бұрын
Fag factor five Captain
@collectorguy3919
@collectorguy3919 Жыл бұрын
The only thing missing is a USB port to charge your phone at 6.5 V pulsed DC.
@britcom1
@britcom1 Жыл бұрын
Having been a firefighter, I always find these kinds of heating products terrifying; or is it horrifying?
@lebthot5787
@lebthot5787 Жыл бұрын
terrifying people buy these horrifying they allowed to be sold
@songsthatarecatchy
@songsthatarecatchy Жыл бұрын
But why is it so dangerous?
@britcom1
@britcom1 Жыл бұрын
​@@songsthatarecatchy Because people often turn on heaters and forget about them and leave them unattended. Combine that with a cheap plastic housing and questionable design decisions and you can easily get a fire.
@sylviaisgod6947
@sylviaisgod6947 Жыл бұрын
Job security.
@whitewolf262
@whitewolf262 Жыл бұрын
Why not both?
@theSam91
@theSam91 Жыл бұрын
I bought this same heater in a slightly different casing and without the LED effects. Full well knowing how crappy it would be, it's only purpose was to act as a thermostatically controlled enclosure heater for the little greenhouse to keep some plants above 16C during winter. It would turn on for less than 30 seconds at a time every few minutes or so, worked fine for a while until the fan motor stopped working for some reason intermittently, at which time it would melt the plastic grille before the bimetallic switch did its job.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 Жыл бұрын
lol, go figure!
@rockerpat1085
@rockerpat1085 Жыл бұрын
Dude I'm Doing The Same Thing!!! Grow Box And It's Too Cool Out Side And I Need A Small Heater To Control The Temp In My Grass House!!!! I'm Only Using It When I'm In The Shop With It!!! Don't Want To Burn My Crop Up Until After Harvest!!! Then We Burn Down The House!!! Keep Rocking It Out Brother!!!
@Mark1024MAK
@Mark1024MAK Жыл бұрын
In the past I used a five 100W tungsten filament lamps, all running at half mains voltage, 240V lamps, connected to a isolating transformer with a 120V secondary (output). It was a very reliable arrangement.
@Anvilshock
@Anvilshock Жыл бұрын
@@rockerpat1085 Isn't it terribly exhausting to begin every word with a capital letter, especially for those that shouldn't have one?
@rockerpat1085
@rockerpat1085 Жыл бұрын
Isn't It Terribly Exhausting To Worry About Such Things? And For The Record: It Ain't Hard At All To Be Awesome!!!!
@mutecryptid
@mutecryptid Жыл бұрын
A high school teacher had one of these! I’ve been looking for one for years I thought it was adorable, it reminded me of one my grandma has. Glad I didn’t find one 😅
@plasmaburndeath
@plasmaburndeath Жыл бұрын
These are always interesting to see how far they might go for realism, I understand a few actually have a random smoke and real fire feature built in, its like the silicone lottery though, never know if you got the one with extra features.
@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 2 жыл бұрын
If the heater element went open circuit between where the bridge rectifier is connected across, things would get very interesting for the fan motor, effects motor and LEDs !
@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 2 жыл бұрын
A follow-up video ??
@poiiihy
@poiiihy Жыл бұрын
i think that happened to a 9$ harbor freight heat gun i had. fan went BRRRRRRRR and poof
@zebo-the-fat
@zebo-the-fat Жыл бұрын
Just more realistic flames!
@trueriver1950
@trueriver1950 Жыл бұрын
Thus living up to the advertised house warming effect with even less use of electricity. Nice!!
@rockerpat1085
@rockerpat1085 Жыл бұрын
I Bought One Similar For A 2x4x6 Box I Have Some Grass Growing In And I Needed To Control The Temp In The Box!!! The First Thing I Noticed Is The Massive Stench In The Box After 5 Minutes Of Use!!! I Removed The PLASTIC Face Plate Because It Was Super Soft And I Figured It Was Going To Melt!!! Smell Went Away After Removing The Grill!!! Nice To See Thermal Protection!!! Keep Rocking It Out Brother!!!
@htiekmahned8859
@htiekmahned8859 Жыл бұрын
The oil filled radiator heater I purchased last winter is a real miracle heater. No noisy fan.
@waqasahmed939
@waqasahmed939 Жыл бұрын
I quite like them because they heat up and cool down just like your normal radiators The heat stays in the room for a lot longer too
@WineScrounger
@WineScrounger Жыл бұрын
They’re good for steady output.
@georgeszilva1223
@georgeszilva1223 Жыл бұрын
I agree, oil filled heaters are great!
@kieranokeeffe1363
@kieranokeeffe1363 Жыл бұрын
God bless you Big Clive for highlighting these dangerous pieces of crap
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 Жыл бұрын
More weapons of house destruction. 400/500 watt can take the chill out of a room, but people are using them as their sole room heater, recently one in the UK caused a fire due to the user having their chair too close. interesting design and schematic, many thanks for sharing. Regards John.
@Grim_Beard
@Grim_Beard Жыл бұрын
Seems like a great design. Can't be cold when you're on fire.
@janemba42
@janemba42 Жыл бұрын
I can smell that thing from here and I'm Australian.
@bob4analog
@bob4analog Жыл бұрын
Nice teardown. The cheaper one works exactly like a 70s hair dryer i have. The half wave diode low speed heat setting is a clever old trick.
@PJ-oe6eu
@PJ-oe6eu Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, what do more modern heaters do for this? Regulate the voltage?
@bob4analog
@bob4analog Жыл бұрын
PJ - Um, not sure, but the mains voltage is fairly well regulated.
@Thermalions
@Thermalions Жыл бұрын
Product Listing: "Product may differ from illustration" Me: "...especially after running for a couple of hours"
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a lot of trouble for 300 watts worth of heat; you could run Folding@Home on a modest PC and accomplish something useful with that much power.
@badscrew4023
@badscrew4023 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I do to heat my attic
@volvo09
@volvo09 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Used to do that on a dual xeon workstation, it warmed under my desk nicely.
@bitterlemonboy
@bitterlemonboy Жыл бұрын
You can also overclock some GPUs and mine cryptocurrency. Or grow marijuana.
@davidtexmex1616
@davidtexmex1616 Жыл бұрын
You had me at trashiest 😍 absolute 80s style trash tech!
@DielectricVideos
@DielectricVideos Жыл бұрын
These half-wave rectifier heaters can introduce significant harmonics into the power distribution system. I notice that when I switch my 1500W space heater to "LOW" mode (which similarly puts a diode in series with the heating elements), the induction motors throughout the house hum noticeably more loudly, and if my variac is plugged into the same circuit, it will buzz quite a bit more than usual!
@techalyzer
@techalyzer Жыл бұрын
TBH I have used an actual hair dryer to heat up the room in emergencies before. It's loud as heck, but it kinda does the job, I managed to raise the temperature by one degree as the clock on my wall said, probably even more around the bed where it was aiming.
@DavidCurryFilms
@DavidCurryFilms Жыл бұрын
Ah the smell of burning dust, I've missed that ...
@tncorgi92
@tncorgi92 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidCurryFilms I had to crawl under my house with a hair dryer to thaw my water pipes, in a confined space that burning dust smell is almost overpowering.
@frankowalker4662
@frankowalker4662 Жыл бұрын
I like the one you took apart. You could remove the heater and the fan and run it off a 5V powerbank just for the flame effect fireplace. :) (although it all depends on the current draw of the motor as to how long the powerbank will last)
@monkeynutchewer
@monkeynutchewer Жыл бұрын
Great video again Clive. Just wondering how the live passes through the diode when switched in low mode, is that a diode or a resister? You do great work on keeping us views educated on safe/unsafe products that are out there, British Standards should sponsor you as you are doing a wonderful job.
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
Its a diode.. When it's switched into the circuit by moving the switch to the low position, the diode only let's one half of the A/C sine wave through, then effectively only using half of the power. Thats why the LEDs then flicker, because they are only being powered by half of the alternating sine wave, and are dark for the other half.
@peterlarkin762
@peterlarkin762 Жыл бұрын
Power's also going throw a resistor divider network on high and low. It's using some heating element windings as the resistor.
@brucereichert6509
@brucereichert6509 Жыл бұрын
As soon as you said half wave rectifier, I got excited and hoped you'd put in a capacitor.
@spacejihadist4246
@spacejihadist4246 Жыл бұрын
This can cremate a grandma with her house basically for free.
@d.t.4523
@d.t.4523 Жыл бұрын
Splendid! It's cool to get something cheap and trashy once in a while. I wouldn't get 3 at a time though. Good luck. Keep warm.
@danielwidmann7835
@danielwidmann7835 Жыл бұрын
Interesting and scary design at the same time. Just imagine the heater wire breaks between the taps of the rectifier. I would think that the fan, effect motor and the LEDs may make a brief, but intensive light show when basically connected to mains voltage with only the heating wire acting as a current limiting resistor. Would be a nice follow up video
@robwolters7401
@robwolters7401 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to you I repaired an electric heater. Replaced the thermal fuse. A part for 40 cent that made it the whole thing useless.
@frinkemon
@frinkemon Жыл бұрын
I love the way they used the diode. Just delightful isn't it!
@memejeff
@memejeff Жыл бұрын
This is fascinating. I was intrigued when I saw the effect that reminded me of disco lights. Quite interesting that they built it like an effect spotlight rather than a few leds and an mcu. Very cool
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 2 жыл бұрын
You buy them, so we dont have to.👍👍
@supralapsarian
@supralapsarian Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Mylar isn’t meant to derive a varying twist from its free end dragging against the motor. Thank you for featuring this Darwinian catalyst with your adoring fans!
@Anvilshock
@Anvilshock Жыл бұрын
Who wouldn't like their housefire device to come with a nice, ear-grating scraping noise!
@whitesapphire5865
@whitesapphire5865 Жыл бұрын
Hah! My nextdoor neighbour bought the exact same product just five weeks ago. She hasn't seen it yet because she's seriously ill in hospital. I wanted to dismantle the thing to have a look inside, so thank you, Clive, for saving me the bother of buying triangular screwdrivers just to let me in. Whoever put it together must have been in a hurry to get finished, because it looks, even from the outside, as though its various outer components aren't fitted together properly, the display window components in particular. I did try to warn her!
@wilburt6131
@wilburt6131 Жыл бұрын
Sabotage it so it gets sent back! It'd save her getting burnt to death
@snakezdewiggle6084
@snakezdewiggle6084 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it should "magically" disappear before she returns home...
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
@@snakezdewiggle6084 Or better yet, it "never arrived".. 🤷🏻
@trueriver1950
@trueriver1950 Жыл бұрын
I hope she's in hospital for something other than inhalation of fumes from the plastic grill melting
@Vousie
@Vousie Жыл бұрын
So, with the two thermal safety parts, one would hope it wouldn't catch fire, so it's 400w heater in a very tiny package. Seems like it could be really nice for putting on your desk to blow straight at you... In any case, even if it does catch fire, at least you're right there & can (hopefully) put it out before it sets the house on fire. Personally I wouldn't recommend leaving any fan heater running while you're not in the room - even "safe" ones.
@Ryyi23
@Ryyi23 Жыл бұрын
That flame effect was surprisingly nice to look at.
@jkobain
@jkobain Жыл бұрын
Usually, I am happy when I guess something and confirm that I got it right. This time, I was frightened to guess it was a half-cycle diode rectifier on the switch. This semi-happy, semi-scared state bothers me now, especially since they will keep doing this, *I know they will.*
@RS-Amsterdam
@RS-Amsterdam Жыл бұрын
The only way to make those flames realistic is to spray gasoline on the device and set it off
@Cammi_Rosalie
@Cammi_Rosalie Жыл бұрын
I have three of the "Handy Heaters". I got them at a thrift store over the summer for 5 dollars each. (Three for less than the price of one on Amazon) The ones that plug directly into the outlet. Winter came, and I plugged one in. Powered up, worked really well. After an hour or so, it just shut off. Have to unplug it, and plug it back in to get it going again. Tried another one. Same thing. The third one... Same thing. While they were running, the heat was pretty good. They are the PTC type element and have digital thermostat and a sleep timer. I think that even if the sleep timer is off, it still functions and goes off after an hour or so. But, ANY heater I have ever used with a digital control has been utter sh!t. While going to flea markets and yard sales I found a "Big Heat" Model 6200 heater. It is the hot-coils type. Now THAT sucker works!! For nearly as small a package, it has tip-over shutoff, an overheat protection, an actual selector switch and an actual bi-metal thermostat. You know, REAL knobs and controls. Best damn little heaters I have ever bought (I now have three of those.. Er, I mean two. I gave one to my Uncle.) Link to "Handy Heater": www.amazon.com/Ontel-Handy-Heater-Personal-Compact/dp/B01L9UKAHM/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pdt_img_top?ie=UTF8 Link to "Big Heat" : www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/portable-electric-forced-air-heater-1799938058
@jamesdagmond
@jamesdagmond Жыл бұрын
That big heat one looks like a scary old heater that'll burn your house down. 🤣 Be careful with that old thing.
@Cammi_Rosalie
@Cammi_Rosalie Жыл бұрын
@@jamesdagmond Only if used without common sense. The only way it's burning anything is if the user is an outright fool and lets the front get covered by something like a curtain or blanket. But even then it does have a one-shot overtemp cutoff. (A thermal fuse) once that pops, it won't come back on again until the fuse is replaced. It has a steel body, porcelain insulators, Steel grille, double insulated, and a true AC induction motor fan with steel blades. (not some plastic, re-used laptop cooler fan) I'd consider an older heater like that far safer than the plastic, chinesium trash getting pumped en masse out of china these days. Trust me, It's fine. If you think that one is scary, you should see my 1960's "Markel - Neo-Glo" Heater or my 1930's "Radia Health-Heater" Both of which work great. Markel: www.ebay.com/itm/195461862634?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D243355%26meid%3D83f3f8a657d6432182e4268632f4ebc6%26pid%3D101224%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D254482626355%26itm%3D195461862634%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DDefaultOrganicWebWithV5RefreshRanker%26brand%3DMarkel&_trksid=p2047675.c101224.m-1 Radia: www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-shepler-mfg-co-electric-401425382
@tomhood8897
@tomhood8897 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm… Beans & Weenies??? A phantom olfactory delight!!! Thanks, Clive…
@jumboegg5845
@jumboegg5845 Жыл бұрын
Identical to a cheap 1800W hot air gun I bought a while back. The gun has low and high settings of about 300C and 400C. Not much difference between high and low heat, because the fan keeps the heating element cool - this means when the heating element is on low (half wave rectified) the fan is also going much slower, so the heating element does not get cooled as much. Without the fan, the element would probably burn out in seconds. I bought the heat gun hoping to modify it to variable heat (down to about 100C would have been good). Of course it didnt work, because a lower heating element meant a slower the fan. I think the only way to solve this problem is to give the low voltage fan an independent power supply but didnt get that far.
@davidfalconer8913
@davidfalconer8913 Жыл бұрын
There are a LOT of plastic cased " bar fire " type heaters being sold ... these burn FAR TOO HOT ( bright orange ) and the Nichrome elements are super thin = VERY short life ( 4 months ? ) ... a better buy would be a 2nd hand 1960's bar fire from a junk ( thrift ) store .. these have THICK elements , run a dull red ... my mum's Belling™ from the 1950's STILL WORKS TODAY ! ! ..( tried - n - tested ) ..... DAVE™ ..............
@ruben_balea
@ruben_balea Жыл бұрын
It *is* a miracle: a fire starter brick that works without the need of matches or any other source of flame!
@hyperboloidofonesheet1036
@hyperboloidofonesheet1036 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious what that half-wave output actually looks like in an oscilloscope, figuring in the back-emf from the motor.
@chrisreynolds6331
@chrisreynolds6331 Жыл бұрын
A friend loaned me a very similar one with the digital display to assess. I was surprised to see an infra red receiver next to the display. No remote in the box, no mention of remote capability in the instructions, but the remote for one of my novelty lamps works it.
@wherami
@wherami Жыл бұрын
oh wow a hair dryer. fascinating. lots of salvage there. yes the first one had a much nicer effect.
@fredflintstone1
@fredflintstone1 Жыл бұрын
Hmm no tilt switch definately a fire hazard, nice video🙂
@My-Pal-Hal
@My-Pal-Hal Жыл бұрын
I've seen those. And can only imagine that the "UL" listing was simply the Uneasy Laughter as somebody plugged it in 😬
@enoz.j3506
@enoz.j3506 Жыл бұрын
Clive,what about doing a safety vid on things like this, block the vents and film what happends, just make a box with an extracter and pipe to a window to get rid of toxic fumes? that would be interesting as well.
@aurthorthing7403
@aurthorthing7403 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious how long it would take to melt the grill? Will it self destruct?
@rockerpat1085
@rockerpat1085 Жыл бұрын
5 Minutes!!! After That The Whole Room Smelled Like Hot Plastic!!! I Removed The Grill And It's Much Better!!! Keep Rocking!!!
@dimitar4y
@dimitar4y Жыл бұрын
1. they could've used a fancier switch, skip the diode, and not have any of the flicker issues. The switch would just power half of the heating element, but configured so on short/long heater section the potential divider is the same. (same middle tap, the switch changes top/bottom taps, so a double pole double throw.)
@christophermorin9036
@christophermorin9036 Жыл бұрын
You'd think it wouldn't be so hard to put the guts of a hair dryer in a box with fake flames and call it a day, but 350 watts on high? Lol, that's 1/6th of the hair dryer I use!
@craxd1
@craxd1 Жыл бұрын
The nichrome wire element one is liable to burn your house down. A plastic tunnel around heat coils? I can see it sagging off the wall now, once the cutoff fails.
@KronosGodwisen
@KronosGodwisen Жыл бұрын
I thought the thumbnail was a joke. I'll give them an A for showmanship.
@jkobain
@jkobain Жыл бұрын
01:08 - Can't stop seeing a pile of poo in the fireplace.
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
I agree.... It IS what it IS. 😕
@samuelfellows6923
@samuelfellows6923 Жыл бұрын
😄
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke Жыл бұрын
I think I'll stick to my Aladdin blue-flame paraffin heater, silent, no electrickery needed, and not made of cheap plastic, still could cause a fire if misused, but what doesn't have that risk these days? :P
@JuxZeil
@JuxZeil Жыл бұрын
Yeah....but that smell I remember almost as well as the dentist gasmask. Urgh!
@katiebarber407
@katiebarber407 Жыл бұрын
Do they sell these next to those little tiny fire extinguishers that have about a tablespoon of fire extinguishing powder inside?
@roberttaylor2328
@roberttaylor2328 Жыл бұрын
Another lovely teardown analysis. Cheers, Clive!
@MD_Builds
@MD_Builds Жыл бұрын
I noticed the moulding for the logs are the same on both units....
@tonysheerness2427
@tonysheerness2427 Жыл бұрын
As you said in the beginning it is a hairdryer, which has been squashed, and they are made of plastic, hairdryers are hand held. How many hairdryers go into melt down?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
How many hairdryers are operated for hours with low airflow?
@hippopotamus86
@hippopotamus86 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a review of the 3500W electric water heater on Aliexpress for £30? It shows it with a shower attachment, but I don't think I'd trust it!
@Boemel
@Boemel Жыл бұрын
Just got a youtube ad for one of these today and now this video :D
@CAESARbonds
@CAESARbonds Жыл бұрын
Could you go outside and simulate a motor fail? Will it cut it in time or go up in flames?
@thegorgon7063
@thegorgon7063 Жыл бұрын
It'll do what a hairdryer does, as it's basically a hairdryer, the thermal cutoff bigclive showed kicks in.
@CAESARbonds
@CAESARbonds Жыл бұрын
@@thegorgon7063 A normal hairdryer does, but I'd be curious if this cut-off will be fast enough
@SigEpBlue
@SigEpBlue Жыл бұрын
This serves as a reminder to all: make SURE your fire/renter insurance is paid & current!
@billybbob18
@billybbob18 Жыл бұрын
I WANT that little trashy heater. I'm a heating technician and would like to put that in our show room as a joke.
@christastic100
@christastic100 Жыл бұрын
Even the logs look fresh and warm when the heater is off 😁.
@jak1590
@jak1590 Жыл бұрын
Perfect way to heat your whole house this winter, just be sure you're out when it burns down.
@Baddad36
@Baddad36 Жыл бұрын
😂 "Is it still hot?" Pokes it with two fingers. Wonderful. 😂 Even big Clive does it.
@Onio_Saiyan
@Onio_Saiyan Жыл бұрын
The flame effect on these is interesting, but I'm not sure how one might reuse the effect outside the heater if not for fake fire in a haunted house or something. Small heaters like this give me the heebie-jeebies. The thinner the footprint and the taller the device, the more likely it is to topple and cause a fire. That's why when we heat our construction sites where I work we use massive heaters that have a broad base and are pretty bottom heavy and require a forklift to move.
@Graham_Langley
@Graham_Langley Жыл бұрын
Sorry Clive but I've got to mark you down for the wrong use of 'simplistic' in the description. Or did you get Dave Jones to write it?
@FishCow
@FishCow Жыл бұрын
As an electrician and super model, I used to use this exact hair dryer back in the day. Tragically I was irreparably disfigured when my diaphanous scarf and complexion caught fire.
@clifton4566
@clifton4566 Жыл бұрын
I took apart an old toaster oven, and used the parts to make a space heater. Actually works great, but I wouldn't trust it enough to leave it on without me here.
@alexisentonfire
@alexisentonfire Жыл бұрын
sleeved earth, sums it up pretty much
@onradioactivewaves
@onradioactivewaves Жыл бұрын
Impressive as this is, it's still nowhere near in the class of the Trident Ingot Ration Heater.
@tncorgi92
@tncorgi92 Жыл бұрын
For a moment I thought "Monkey Butt" was actually on the device. Wasn't terribly surprised, after watching Ashens videos nothing from China seems impossible.
@twoina
@twoina Жыл бұрын
What would happen if - everybody uses this type of device for heating - everybody switches it to half power - every diode is pointing in the same direction ? Will the grid get unstable?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
It's definitely not substation friendly.
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 Жыл бұрын
This needs a filter cap across the bridge rectifier placed conveniently close to the heating element, such that when the cap pops (as such things are wont to do when heated) the vent end of the cap is on the intake side of the fan and will then add smoke to the flame effect. Naughty, but oddly appropriate! 😆
@brianallen9810
@brianallen9810 Жыл бұрын
"One Moment Pleeeze" Love your videos, interesting.
@kurtu5
@kurtu5 Жыл бұрын
"Old fashioned resistor style". Gee, thanks for making me feel like a fossil.
@WolfmanDude
@WolfmanDude Жыл бұрын
Its funny how they "cost optimised" the flame effect until its barely recognisable. Next version will just have a red led. And the version after that will just be a hair dryer without any flame effect. Its like backwards evolution
@MichaelFlatman
@MichaelFlatman Жыл бұрын
Could you do a slightly longer video on the heater with a remote control? I'm sort of thinking of getting one, not sure if it's worth it or not tho.
@Segafishy
@Segafishy Жыл бұрын
That low setting sounds very like the fans in an E46 3 series when the Final stage resistor dies
@Mr.T4LLY-0
@Mr.T4LLY-0 Жыл бұрын
How long before the outlet melts or worse, bursts into flames? That just looks nasty on all tick boxes. Sleeved earth prongs should always set alarms ringing, hopefully not fire alarms.
@EdgarsLS
@EdgarsLS Жыл бұрын
that 248V line voltage is crazy, do you think electric companies always run their voltage at the highest in-spec voltage to increase electricity consumption or to not have below-spec line voltage for someone who's having a kilometer of aluminum cable feeding the house?
@wisteela
@wisteela Жыл бұрын
Comes with a deathdapter it doesn't need - Perfect!
@XShaneX19
@XShaneX19 Жыл бұрын
"This is fake! There is no real fire like in the picture!" Seller: "Just wait a bit :-D"
@johnpossum556
@johnpossum556 Жыл бұрын
I just had to grind down the circumference of my triangular bit to get into a Sunbeam Xpress heat electric blanket. Once in I discovered the damn thing has a 28 pin SMD. You should take one of these apart, Clive, because the wiring in the blanket is not at all what I expected. It's all flat wire spiral wound and there are at least two layers like this. I have to look closer because there might even be another conductor inside for safety. Lots of high tech safety has gone into this thing. Frankly I doubt I will ever get it working again at this rate but I need to spend more time with it, too.
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
Circumference of a triangle?? 🤔 Hmm...
@soneyliston7902
@soneyliston7902 Жыл бұрын
Wow! That looks exactly like the picture.... I'm getting 2 of them......
@assassinlexx1993
@assassinlexx1993 Жыл бұрын
Now Clive you said space effects. Love to see what you could cobble together. SPACE INVASION
@FrontSideBus
@FrontSideBus Жыл бұрын
As soon as it went on low and started flickering, I was thinking "noooooo, surely they are not just running it on half wave? "
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