The tri-fighter was a TERRIFYING bastard

We'll take a look at the terrifying CIS droid tri-fighter and awesome clone wars era star fighter! that and more on today's Star Wars lore video!
***
Join the bookclub on Patreon: / eckhartsladder
🔵 SOCIAL MEDIA 🔵
Twitter: / eckhartsladder
Discord: / discord
Instagram: / eckhartsladder
🔵 SUPPORT ECK 🔵
Donate: www.paypal.me/...
Merch: www.teespring....
Patreon: / eckhartsladder
🔵 ASSETS 🔵
Intro/Outro Music: Home - Resonance
Outro meme'd by: / freightmytrain
Music Playlist: goo.gl/YRzmaZ
🔵 SEND ME STUFF 🔵
PO Box 3271, Station East, Dartmouth NS, B2W 5G2
You can address any mail to Justin

[@drxtale9446]

I mean, the fastest ship in the CIS and let alone the entire galaxy? Terrifying laser cannon(s)? A menacing appearance, controlled by a droid brain, AND has missiles containing buzz droids?!? Yeah. Safe to assume these droid fighters are tamed beasts out to kill.

[@-epistemus]

Not to be that guy, but android =/= droid. The Trifighter had a droid brain. An android typically resembles a humanoid/human.

[@admiralmurphy1543]

​@@-epistemusthis. ^

[@mosser-wm3dx]

​@-epistemus looks like it may be an auto correct error when trying to type "a droid".

[@drxtale9446]

@@mosser-wm3dx yes.

[@-epistemus]

My apologies

[@Arto257]

This thing was an absolute monster in Battlefront II (2005). Completely unmatched in peer to peer dogfights.

[@tmytyson]

That high-pitched triple-ping from launching a salvo of missiles that basically guaranteed a kill was almost as satisfying as the ping of an M1 Garand.

[@bowwing333]

Was really strong in the newer Battlefront II as well. One of my all time favorites. Near perfect kit for a Starfighter. Could easily go toe to toe with Hero ships and anything else honestly. That heavy cannon barrage with infinite cooling ability just was so strong.

[@redstonecasey4713]

The “Collapse of the Republic” rulebook for the Star Wars RPG includes a little snippet that I just love. “The designers of the Tri-Fighter’s droid brain did a fantastic job of capturing the personality of the average starfighter pilot. The brain is an arrogant, aggressive construct given to showing off in flight and bragging in the hangar.” Yes. These things will BRAG TO OTHER DROIDS about killing you.

[@idioticbuffoon8960]

Based

[@WildmanTrading]

What

[@mirceazaharia2094]

God damn clankers T___T

[@inductivegrunt94]

Buzz Droid missiles, very nimble, very powerful, very terrifying. The pinnacle of Droid Starfighter design imo, and one of my most favorite CIS droids and general starfighters in all of Star Wars.

[@toddkes5890]

A nuclear warhead would be more effective than the Buzz Droids

[@494Farrell]

​@@toddkes5890please tell me you understand why a nuclear missile would be terrible for fighter combat.

[@BaseSerpentMessmer]

​@@494Farrell😂

[@toddkes5890]

@@494Farrell A nuclear missile wouldn't take several seconds to do damage or be fought off by Artoo.

[@landofhadron3836]

It would also vaporize any friendlies in the area.@@toddkes5890

[@PK-Radio]

If the rebels used Tri Fighters the empire genuinely would not have stood a chance

[@Rensune]

​@@michaelandreipalon359Not as much as all those lost rebel lives.

[@brenobassocenci6571]

The major proble the rebels faced during the galactic civil war was manpower shortages, even if they captured an ISSD they didn’t had the people to man it, that’s why most big rebel ships were largely automated, in contrast to the empire, who’s ships were specifically design to accommodate much larger amounts of personnel than the ship really needed.

[@johnpatz8395]

I alway felt the Empire should have used droids to supplement their human forces. I mean they had to cover massive amounts of territory, in both space and on planets, and combat/security droids could have been a huge asset. Even if they weren’t used for front line units. Which they should have been, but they would be perfect to use at small, more isolated outposts as backup for the human security forces.

[@SamSalsa411]

@@johnpatz8395You aren’t wrong but the senate (and Galaxy at large) wanted no more droids in war. You gotta keep in mind that battle droids were specifically banned by the imperial senate. Even if they weren’t being used in a combat role, the public at large would not be too accepting of droids playing such a large role in the imperial military

[@carlost856]

Palpatine probably took out all the factories when he took over. They were already rare and costly to manufacture before.

[@kelleren4840]

Honestly I feel like Vulture droids are so insanely OP, that if plot armor were even like 2% weaker, they alone would guarantee complete air and space superiority for the Trade Alliance, no questions asked.

[@EternalDawn]

Culture droids are the basic H shaped CIS fighter though? Op how?

[@EternalDawn]

Vulture*

[@Juel92]

The vultures are sooo cool. They're a great example though of how GL totally messed up the tech canon with the prequels.

[@SephirothRyu]

Vultures can also operate as light walkers too.

[@Juel92]

@@SephirothRyu Yeah that's what makes them so utterly broken. I don't understand why they produced anything else than Vultures and Droidekas. Edit: Alright I do understand why. Something something Sidious, something something plan.

[@sanitarycockroach9038]

I liked the B2s in Republic Commando, as long as they weren't coming out those blasted spawners. They usually tested if you had placed your guys properly and managed your ammo right. You couldn't cheese them with melee like the Droidekas either. They were slow enough to maneuver around as well. Now those Geonosian beam guys, they sucked.

[@Toerinator]

True. They weren't as OP imo and they rarely came in large numbers. I actually enjoy replaying republic commando 🙃

[@RJALEXANDER777]

It seemed like a bad comparison as B2's play a bit like Hunters do in Halo. You'd need to compare Jackals with a sniper enemy.

[@blackore64]

Nah, you can cheese them with Melee, you just have to circle-strafe, their Melee is slow. The problem comes if there's more than one

[@soldier1stclass640]

Republic Comando taught me to FEAR the Super Battle Droid. Those spawners were the WORST

[@thedatatreader]

You could almost hear the level designer cackling manically when two or three B2 spawners showed up at once on Kashyyk. On the highest difficulty, basically if you didn't blow them up quickly enough (like within the first 30 seconds) there was no way to win.

[@StarWarsJay]

I’d love to see this prehistoric beast it’s based on.

[@toddkes5890]

I was hoping that they were using trilateral symmetry for the Tri-Droid. You'd have a central pod with gun, power plant, sensors, computer, 3 sensors; and each of the three arms are identical. Arms that are damaged or destroyed are simply popped off and replaced on a Droid carrier warship. The Droid carrier Warship would carry extra arms to handle replacements while on board systems try to repair damaged arms. It'd show that the CIS uses alien races with their own psychology and unit design.

[@SN1PERx64]

B2 droids are not that bad, I always saved my heavy munitions for them and that made their sections fine. B2 battle droid dispensers, on the other hand, are banes of my existence. I get RC does have rose tinted aspects to it, but it also shows how awesome it was to be what felt like a real squad. The positives of that and the environment make up for an admitingly aged FPS imo.

[@GabePlaysYT]

I loved the tri-fighters because they don't look like normal ships that could be piloted by humans, like the Vulture droids. These are droids, so the starfighters don't need to be designed like regular ships with wings. They could have weird and distinct designs! the tri-fighter is basically a ball with wings which looks way more menacing and is probably even cheaper to make

[@MrGentlemanGG_]

It’s a good point but I feel like that is swapped between the vulture droid and the tri-fighter. The tri fighter looks like you could change the components of that ball and fit a pilot inside, whereas in a vulture droid, it does roughly look like a cockpit it looks too small for someone

[@angelic_disappointment7889]

@@MrGentlemanGG_unless the pilot is like 3ft tall they’re not fitting in that ball

[@Clonecommandersquishy]

With out you I couldn’t brag to my dad about how much lore I know.

[@nyxknight7555]

My parents usually get upset if I start talking about the eu for Star Wars and by eu I mean anything that isn’t in the movie and said in the movies tech knowledge included if they don’t explain it then it just kinda is and any additional information is usually taken as in why do you look into that stuff. Oh well

[@JJJBunney001]

Never try include your parents in nerd stuff unless they're nerds, it's not worth it 😂

[@Clonecommandersquishy]

@@JJJBunney001my dad is a nerd he showed lord of the rings.

[@anthonyrodriguez8788]

​@@nyxknight7555keep doing it anyway, if they don't like it that's on them.

[@benderbendingrodriguez420]

By far my favorite CIS starfighter. Fast af, impressive weapons, able to think for itself in combat. Honestly cant think of a downside

[@pinedragon5398]

I haven’t looked at Star Wars in a hot minute outside of Ahsoka. Been on a trek groove. God I missed your voice. It really makes my night bro. That’s such a weird set of unrelated statements.

[@KuDastardly]

It's funny when flying the Tri-fighter from 3rd perspective. It looks like you're piloting a Mk II Colonial Viper from Battlestar Galactica.

[@Felwinters.Lie69]

Well, it does seem pretty similar.

[@guardiantree8879]

Whenever I build a fleet I always use these guys as my anti star fighter role. Save my aces from those death trap A Wings. Let them use X wings, B Wings & the best Tie defenders instead.

[@joaomiguelmoreira6363]

I see a Tri Fighter appreciation vid, I like Awesome vid Eck!

[@dragonknight951]

You know I just realized something kinda fun. I could be very wrong of course but I can't help but draw the similarity. The Tie Defender seems to draw at least some inspiration from the Droid Tri-fighter. Evidence: Three powerful engines resulting in incredible bang-for-your-buck in speed and agility. Three "wings" with weapons as well as weapons on the center "ball" of the ship giving it impressive firepower. Absolutely terrifying for anyone to fight. Exceptionally high-performance for the time. And high cost compared to other equivalents. There may be more but that's the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

[@iamblight707]

In legends the tie defender was actually inspired by the Chiss claw craft, fighters used by Thrawn's race.

[@demiserofd]

Having the center gyroscopically mounted is actually pretty brilliant, it means you don't need to rotate the whole ship to change your thrust vector. It would make you insanely agile.

[@kingmegatron7974]

It’s probably what Bayformers Starscream and his seeker mates transformed into on Cybertron.

[@Shawn_M]

Those tiny things would be impossible to hit. With droid reflexes, that thing is seriously deadly

[@openfly4u]

Whaaat? I liked how the b2 was portrayed in RepCo. The slow constant advance while it soaks up both concentration and fire. B2 were IMO supposed to be scary and an utter pain to fight, since no one had a lightsaber

[@KorriTimigan]

I completely agree! I played Republic Commando before Battlefront 2, and when I played the latter I was quietly disappointed that Supers were designated the standard grunts, usually weaker than the B1s which made up the other classes. Seeing a Super in RC meant you had a formidable foe. They should have been the heavy class in BF2, or maybe even a prestige class.

[@SephirothRyu]

Eckhart's Tri-ladder is an enjoyable NON-bastard.

[@seekertwo1]

Great video! Imagine that, in DARK EMPIRE, the World Devastators had manufactured these instead of the TIE-D fighters......

[@FabricationMachinep1]

Something to remember about those droid brains: They learned. The more encounters they survived, the better they got. Even if the fighter itself was destroyed, there is a high chance that brain could be recovered and that valuable experience moved into a new body. Part of what made the droid deadly was it programming and that was fresh off the assembly line and it only gets deadlier from there because of its capacity to learn.

[@hunterkiller1440]

The flying droidekas in space. Weird how all the space droid army is absolutely diabolical.

[@StarGazer2gaming]

This actually reminded me of an old EU Star Wars book I read, centered on the Rogue Squadron. I can't remember which book in the series it was, but in it one of the members of Rogue Squadron goes undercover and has to pilot modified Tri-Fighters that had their domes replaced with a cockpit. It had no shields, old, fast, but still quite deadly even though it was intended to be controlled by a droid. I thought it was really interesting that a droid ship could be modified to allow organics to pilot it.

[@raylast3873]

You‘d be surprised how much more fighting power you can fit in a vehicle by removing a living crewmember, or pilot in this case. This is a big factor also in tank design. For example, the IS-2 a late-WW2 Soviet heavy tank was able to face off against the German late-war models in terms of firepower and armor, but weighed much, much less, almost what a medium tank would weigh. They did this mostly by removing the 5th crew member (the radio operator). A human needs a lot of space space that ends up exacting a cost in terms of things like armor. One less crewmember ==> about 20 tons less in weight and therefore also material cost, fuel, etc, for more or less the same capabilities. Likewise, modern tanks that use an auto-loader to replace the 4th crew member also have some major windfalls from that, including being able to make their tank easily a meter lower in profile, which makes it harder to hit and easier to conceal, and again it also removes weight. There are other disadvantages to this, which is why not everyone did it for most of the post-WWII time, but it seems like Autoloaders will become the standard with battle tanks in the 21st century. Of course, there are limits to this. With tanks, you almost certainly can‘t go below three crew members without seriously hurting it‘s fighting ability and given that tanks are some of the most expensive hardware there is, you probably don‘t want to do that. But for air combat (which sci-fi space combat mimics a lot) there is every reason to use remote-controlled (or potentially AI-controlled) drones extensively, if not exclusively. For one thing, numbers play a bigger role here, but also there‘s relatively little an onboard pilot can do that a remote one can‘t. And the remote pilot always lives to fight another day, which preserves his experience and abilities for the future. Given all that it‘s almost surprising that the CIS is the only major force that used droid-fighters in large numbers. For example, the TIE-FIghter is already a relatively cheap vehicle designed for mass-deployment and numerical superiority. Why not make it remote-controlled? You save not just on material but also preserve your valuable pilots. They already don‘t have shields, and they also can‘t range far from their command ship since they lack a hyperdrive. Honestly, giving a vehicle like the TIE-Fighter an onboard, living pilot seems like a waste of resources in the end. I think at the end of the day, the CIS was not on the wrong track by using droids extensively, although they probably used them for too many roles. On the other hand, the other major galactic contenders are probably guilty of a major oversight by not using them for at least some roles. I actually wouldn‘t use droids as infantry, but starfighter combat is something drones are definitely predestined for.

[@mr_h831]

The shooting mechanics in republic commando are fine, I'm not sure how you're going to explain that one but I'm interested in hearing why you think that. To me, it's not the mechanics it's the feeling of using the weapon. Halo always made the player feel like they had some meat to the weapon they were using, this was done with sound effects primarily, but secondarily, sometimes what they did. Starwars has a very specific sound effect set, so making them sound beefy is difficult. Now, that being said I do find the complaint about the enemies being bullet spongy/a bit repetitive valid, but I almost think that was the point. You ARE in the clone wars, where you're constantly out numbered 10 to 1 by essentially the SAME droid types all the time. I think it's meant to represent being outnumbered without actually outnumbering the player, but I could be wrong. I've played republic commando recently myself, and while it's not necessarily anything ground breaking, it is a good game. I'm honestly not sure how you can like halo but not this game, that's just a little weird to me personally. But hey, to each their own.

[@RevTheSithLord]

Agreed.

[@valzicplayz3845]

Everything about droid fighters are terrifying. The normal fighter can be both a fighter and a quick response droid mech/walker. The tri fighter is so good it's really disappointing other factions didn't utilize droid fighters more. In IRL how we use drones, factions in Star Wars should use droid fighters more in defense and sometimes offense. You can have them at the exterior of the ship and have the main piloted fighters deploy to target the enemy naval ship.

[@SDSmither]

This. Main issue with the star destroyers? Fighter capacity, you don’t have that if you just have a hundred of them attached outside the hull. Only time you need them in a hanger bay is during maintenance. One caveat is idk how hyperspace would work with them outside the ship…I doubt it would be hard to attach locking locations around the ship though.

[@Ynox54321]

- calls normal fighter goofy looking - tri-fighter has eyes, a mosquito-nose and a mohawk

[@JJJBunney001]

Hey Eck, i think your problem with RC is every time ive heard you or corey talk about it or seen you play it, youre trying to play Halo. Uts a tactical shooter which isnt everyones type of game but if you play the game how it wants to be played, you wont notice bullet sponge enemies or clubky shooting befause youll be tactically taking down enemies with your team

[@sundoga4961]

I don't think Palpatine cared which faction won the war. I think he EXPECTED the Republic to win - stronger economy, better base troops, Jedi - but I don't doubt that, had the CIS pulled a rabbit out of the hat, as they very nearly did with the Supertanks, he had a plan to become emperor that way as well.

[@avazquez01]

7:36 I argue the opposite. Once you know how to take it down/ when they spawn, you can save all your ammo for the B2.

[@YourFavoriteCommie]

The tri-fighter became one of my favorite ships, funny enough, from playing Lego Star Wars. There was a space flight level set during the Battle of Coruscant and you could cycle through a bunch of ships, the ARC-170, the LAAT Republic Gunship, the Delta-7 "Jedi starfighter" and so on. One of them was the droid tri-fighter and I thought it was the coolest looking thing. I loved the radial symmetry of it and the way it has a gun on the end of each of its three canards.

[@Irobert1115HD]

also fun fact: this is by description a real droid (unlike r2d2 whos not a droid). for context: george lukas likey took the word droid from android only to later learn that it means resembler or resembling wich is why so many prequel droids either have a coresponding species in the galaxy far far away or look like something you may recognise outright.

[@Banchoking]

Equivalent speed and superior maneuverability to the TIE Fighter using technology that was two decades older. Imagine an updated version.

[@asphaltmemories4597]

My head canon was, as the war progressed the separatists were fielding ever more advanced and devastating droid types, that if it wasn't for the shut down codes another year of fighting would have severely put the republic on the back foot.

[@Hartzilla2007]

Maybe but that depends on how many of the things the corporate overlords practically running the CIS are willing to pay for.

[@screamingcactus1753]

@@Hartzilla2007 I get the feeling they would have been willing to pay for quite a lot. When they went to war against the Republic, they bet it all on black as it were. Failure to win the war would have almost certainly meant the end of every company involved. I'm sure everyone agreed they could dip into the red for a few quarters to fund the production of scarier droids if the alternative was the liquidation of the company along with possibly the liquidation of the people making those decisions.

[@aresnir2725]

I love this droid statfigher and its rockets with blue tails

[@jannismueller2586]

The tri fighter was one of my favorite star fighters in the "lego star wars the complete saga" video game

[@aster4jaden]

One of my favorite Droid's.

[@gJ4cktheRipP3r]

Droids are forbidden, only the spicy will Flow

[@EthanKironus8067]

I used the Tri-Fighter to farm studs in Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga, Episode 3 - Level 1. Unlocked most of the figures/vehicles that way, a good run of the level would get me upwards of 60,000 at once. The other starfighters could have eventually gotten me to the same place, but just the fact that it fired 3 lasers toward a point straight ahead of the ship made it SO much easier to hit, let alone destroy, things. I will appreciate it for that as long as I remember that game.

[@wolfoman28]

"Tri fighter, on your tail" -original battlefront 2

[@FEAROWNAGE]

The g-forces this thing can pull are probably fucking insane.

[@HYDRAdude]

Never ever heard someone describe the fearsome Droid Starfighter as "goofy" looking before.

[@uniquedisplayname6051]

I have an idea for a Mandalorian era character that's basically a gentleman pirate. The Captain as we'll call him flies a super decked out C-ROC Gozanti and has come across two Tri-Fighters and one Vulture Droid that can be deployed from the C-ROC. It's basically just me fanficing some of my favorite ships into Star Wars together.

[@spyczech]

Eck did you ever play squad shooters like ghost recon, rainbow six? It was always way more than then it was a halo killer and the slow methodical gameplay was exactly what I wanted coming from those squad tactics games. Especially after reading the books too. The enemies are spongy though I can't cope that one away

[@jebbus132]

Ah, my favorite interceptor in the OG battlefront 2.

[@wschnabel1987]

Still think republic commando would be a good candidate for a VR reboot for metaquest, same with Star Wars Pod Racer.

[@HamanKarn567]

I had a toy of it as a kid. One of my favorites.

[@mosser-wm3dx]

The things you can accomplish without a meat suit. Enough to make a cylon proud.

[@whydoyougottahavthis]

IDK where I read this, but I read that after the CloneWars, the TriFighter and the Buzz droids were left derelect in space with a proximity warning activating it and attacking anyone it sensed and therefore external weapons were still needed in case you encountered Buzz Droids

[@danielvitale7788]

Kinda wish the besh type transport from the legacy comics had more info on it. Woukd live to see that

[@gamerskater17]

That is a Mustafar-hot take right at the end even if you have some good points

[@angelofdunkirk1703]

4:09 This actually does make sense in some ways. I'm not big into physics (not that physics matter in Star Wars anyways), but I am a huge military aviation nerd, so I do see some advantages here. This configuration would help with its maneuverability. Newton's first law of physics; it takes energy to move something at rest or in a constant trajectory. It takes a lot of energy to spin or yaw something as heavy as a reactor. Allowing the Trifighter to spin and yaw freely while the reactor stays still would make it significantly more maneuverable. Yes the reactor will have to change course with the Trifighter when it pitches, but it doesn't need to spin with it while the fighter is rolling. This would give the Trifighter that extreme roll rate it joyfully exploits in almost every scene it appears in. By the way one last note on the Trifighter from an aviation nerd, here's a real one for you designed by Germany during WWII; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lippisch_P.13a

[@n_am_e]

#AskEck Have you heard about the Minecraft wiki's jump off of fandom to an independent website, and do you think a similar jump is possible with Wookipedia?

[@cmdrpanorpa8631]

Yeah republic commando isnt the best designed game ever, but given that people like it still like the game, goes to show the huge untapped market for new and quality star wars games like it, empire at war, and x-wing alliance.

[@working-protein]

It can be defeated by a frigate because in star wars corvette and frigate are effective against a fighter and so the fighters don't stand a chance because I'm sure frigates does have heavy shielding

[@HandleMyBallsYouTube]

Counterpoint: RC is not being viewed through rose tinted glasses. It's shooting mechanics are dated but in an era of cheap Halo killers and generally very samey shooters, RC managed to do something quite fresh. While it's true that RC's shooting mechanics leave something to be desired, this largely comes down to just a couple somewhat poorly designed weapons. If you were there during the multiplayer days the mechanics there were actually very good for a Star Wars game nobody was really anticipating. What makes RC stand out, and what makes it a game people still love is it's unique blend of genres, and uniquely mature take on Star Wars, and the Clone Wars in particular. In my mind any analysis of any game has to include all of it's aspects, and cannot be limited to just a slice of the mechanics in the game, such as shooting, even if the game itself is a shooter. Furthermore you have to consider when a game was made, the original Deus Ex and KOTOR 1&2 are good examples of how a game can be utterly janky as hell, and yet still remain one of the best games in it's genre of all time. Execution, and and the ability, or lack thereof to create a cohesive experience are things that can make or break a game, and you just can't say Republic Commando isn't a consistent and cohesive experience that's well executed for what it is. You'd be hard pressed to find other shooters from the time that could reach it outside of the absolute kings of the genre, but you'd find hundreds that weren't anywhere near as good.

[@zachelkins1229]

I can't help but think that the droid tri-fighter and TIE defender are related in some way, but it seems like that's just superficial at best.

[@thomasembleton1467]

I love republic commando but it has a lot of class hence why it would need a remake not a remaster

[@macwelch8599]

The fastest fighter, nay, the fastest ship in the entire franchise, clocking in at 25,000 mph

[@macwelch8599]

@@michaelandreipalon359 Wookieepedia

[@macwelch8599]

@@michaelandreipalon359 Disney

[@Shaodw186]

fun fact during the battle of corosaunt you can se one of the Tri fighter swiveling a bit

[@sinisterisrandom8537]

I barely analyze Republic commandos because i'm too distracted firing grenade launchers.

[@TempestsFist]

I personally love the droid Trifighter. Such an angry little guy.

[@brenobassocenci6571]

Clone pilot: Droids will never surpass us in anything! Tri-Fighter: “Menacingly making an impossible turn in a matter of seconds” Am I a joke to you?

[@omartorres5688]

I wonder how the Tri fighter wouldnhave compared to the Tie Defender

[@robertbarrows6687]

AskEck: If you're familiar with the series, do you believe the likes of Frieza from Dragon Ball Z (Super's version just would be unfair) could conquer the Galactic Empire?

[@Quan10Mack]

Amazing that Raven Software put out a better shooter game under Star Trek than LucasArts did years after Elite Force came out.

[@adognamedbird]

Absolutely my favorite ship from the original Battlefront 2❤

[@stars6531]

Didn’t asaij ventress lead a squadron of these

[@tamashorvath224]

The bridge is the only thing I hate about Republic Commando.

[@tavissmith8112]

Lol the opening❤

[@hamishmackay1792]

Honestly now that I think about them they strike me as a possible inspiration for Thrawn’s Tie Defender design

[@brilliantng7041]

hot take i never understood why the tie defender is such a goldilocks mary sue ship too maneuverable? send in a tri fighter, buzz droid missiles will eviscerate the thing (rebels should have used them btw like how they use other clone wars ships), or use a flak cannon to saturate the battlespace with shrapnel? the hull is too sturdy? shields too strong? how about we use our brains, launch some fcking ion torpedoes and leave that flying coffin dead in the water? or better yet use the mon cal ships' ADVANCED turbo lasers that can track nimble starfighters and don't tell me that thrawn's little wunderwaffen can withstand a direct blast from an mc80 you have no idea how less frustrating it would be to deal with a tie defender if someone bothered to use ion weapons

[@voidtempering8700]

​@@brilliantng7041All of those things are special use. The Tie Defender is naturally not invincible, but it was still the best Starfighter for its time.

[@RevTheSithLord]

I wouldn't call the TIE Defender a Mary Sue ship as it has existed long before its Disney version with similar stats. And no I doubt it could withstand a direct blast from an MC-80 turbolaser. I agree that the Tri Fighter would absolutely demolish anything the Empire throws at them if the Rebels were to utilize Tri Fighters. I'm surprised that the Rebels didn't utilize CIS equipment more in Canon, if any. They would have in Legends, because the Empire used B2's and Dwarf Spiders, the Rebels used Hailfires as siege artillery platforms as late as 1 ABY. The Empire used AAT-1's (how do I know this? I have unused Imperial AAT-1 tank texture files in Battlefront 1 and 2 classic versions' files as I mod them for a living, and plus it was in old Legends/EU lore when the Trade Federation was Imperialized). Clone Wars era tech was pretty easy to get a hold of, if you had the credits to spare. So, yeah I kinda wonder why the Rebels didn't get a hold of these things and reprogram them. Hmm. Probably tons of reasons.

[@iprofox3758]

​@@RevTheSithLordmod classic battlefront nice. Where can I see your work?

[@alexmauney9705]

I do agree that the B2 is way too bullet spongey and its a tad overrated however the actual squad mechanics and AI are still pretty damn good for 2005.

[@baronvondorff3955]

Valhiem deathsquitos in space

[@mysticmarble94]

Why is Worf in the thumbnail 🤭

[@redrum_bd1036]

I’m still a sucker for the Vulture Droid, as it can be used on the ground as heavy infantry, as well as be a cheeper/more efficient method of air combat. In fact, I’d argue that the Vulture Droids were a far better option (both cost and efficiency) for the Tie Fighter.

[@MasterCommandCEO]

another great video

[@JoschiChr]

Do or do not. There is no tri.

[@thatgoofyshadow]

Other ships: ooga booga tri-fighter: HEHEHEHEHEHAHAHAHIDHRBDNE AS CJSNDLCISJWNFJ

[@davidlordofthesquirrels9839]

*sigh* Time to watch to find out why Worf is in the thumbnail...

[@TheWatermelonSquad1000]

Darth Vader: I want piloted Tri-Fighters. Mechanic: Ok here’s your Tie-Fighters as requested. Darth Vader: … I requested Tri-Fighters. Mechanic: Yeah. I gave you Tie-Fighters. Darth Vader: *Walks away.

[@JustPlainRex]

“There getting smarter”

[@Raktus]

Sure, but how do they stack up against the improved Ssi-ruuvi Swarm-class battle droids?

[@harumochizuki]

I don’t know if it was just LEGO being LEGO (because, let’s be real, they certainly love to put in little Easter eggs and features that aren’t canon), but I seem to recall something about modified versions of the Tri-Fighter with a cockpit in the stead of the brain module in the center sphere. Maybe that’s an explanation for the gyroscopic center section? That aside, I just wanna say that the Tri-Fighter had a presence like no other CIS craft when it did appear. I’m not sure if it was the three-fingered claw shape that it had, or the fact that it’s receptor eyes look like the eyes of some predatory beast. Whatever it is, it has this mean, sinister, ferocious feel to it, especially with the looks and it’s canonical technical aspects combined.

[@WingsaberE3]

I remember getting the lego set for the arc 170 and the tri fighter as a kid. Treasured memory.

[@DrForrester87]

I see the son of Mogh.

[@Xogroroth666]

Heh, battle a DT Phase 3 by yourself. Then come back and say the same.

[@UpcycleShoesKai]

Vasudan Anubis fighter

[@granatmof]

Honestly it seems like this corporation was the only corporation that systematically designed complex weapon systems that took advantage of novel technologies.

[@bengeldinger]

Am I tripping or is worf in the image for the video?

[@Blueee51]

Its the sequel to the episode where worf goes universe hopping. He's just in the Star Wars universe rn.

[@rokusho6667]

Cis: let’s make a starfighter that can walk and talk even move its head and put a few blasters on it. Cis leadership: ooo so we can use them as mobile artillery platforms… Cis: nah the guns are on the legs pointing down… Leadership: BRILLIANT MAKE IT THE BACKBONE OF OUR FIGHTER FLEET! Cis: jeez we’re losing bad Leadership: hey nest coalition got anything like a droideka in space? Nest: here’s a snub fighter that doesn’t require calibration and multiple armament options…(sees droid fighter)….look we don’t have the patience or the crayons to explain this to yall here’s some guns on engines with a brain now send us steaks.

[@chomper720]

The Droid tri-fighter would been good decoys for the rebels, also if the empire would be moronic enough to ignore em they would regret it later.

[@portwise23]

Your ask eck at the end there really spoke to me lol 😂 I've been playing through Republic Commando myself, and Justin thinking that if the enemies in general were less bullet spongey, the game could be perfect. I think it could have a fantastic remake, if Star Wars wants to cement Delta Squad into canon. Heck, it doesn't even have to be it's own game, like they could make Star Wars battlefront 3 and make the Republic Commando campaign a dlc campaign, and it would still be incredible.

[@jibril2473]

The Tri Fighters always reminded of the TIE Phantom from Rebel Assault 2

[@jeffreycarman2185]

I bet, if you were to stack the Tri-fighters up in a Lucrehulk (a ship with massive cargo holds/hangers) could hold an unholy number of Tri-fighters if they wanted to. A Tri-fighter is 5.4 meters x 2.45 meters x 2.45 meters so it would take up about 65 cubic meters (rounded up) the C-9979 Landing Craft is 210 meters long, about 100 meters tall, and 370 wingspan so it would take up about 11.7 million cubic meters a Lucrehulk can fit 50 C-9979 landers so that’s 587.8 million cubic meters so in the space take up by the C-9979 landers alone you could fit about 9.1 million Tri-fighters in that space alone (mind you that the 50 C-9979 landers did not even take up all of the hold/hanger capacity on a Lucrehulk. I could see where, even at a relative inexpensive price (40,000 credits) having over 9 million of them in one ship (even a very durable and powerful ship like the Lucrehulk) would be a risk because the expense of that many star fighters would be over 364 billion credits. I can imagine coordinating that many ships in any meaningful strategic way would be difficult even for a team of T-series tactical droids.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

While the Tri-fighter, at 40,000 credits, might have been expensive in comparison to the Vulture Droid, at 19,000 credits, but compared to the expense of cloning and training a clone trooper pilot _and_ a Z-95 Headhunter (an inferior starfighter by basically ever metric) at 80,000 credits or a V-19 Torrent at 75,000 credits (also an inferior star fighter) the Tri-fighter was a bargain.

[@BioHunter1990]

Republic Commando is hilariously overrated. I picked it up got a few bucks about 8 years ago. Played a few hours before getting fed up with the bullshit. And I’m not a novice to FPS games. Halo CE on Legendary is a personal favorite. Metro LL on Ranger Hardcore is a personal victory.