The "Trinity" Icon

[@christopherdavis7069]

The imagery that the Chalice is formed by the Father and the Holy Spirit was mind blowing. I go to a parish called Holy Trinity and this icon is always the first thing that greets me when I walk through the door.

[@isaacwebber704]

My heart burns within me as I watch, incredible teaching. Coming from a Protestant background I was incredibly dubious of an icon depicting the trinity. This explaination has entirely quelled my inhibitions. God bless you sir.

[@feeble_stirrings]

This was the first Icon I ever owned, a gift from a Catholic friend before I had become Orthodox.

[@SimpleAmadeus]

The mention of the cross being a tree of death that turned into the tree of life just set off so many typological cross reference explosions in my head all at once! That's marvelous! God is incredible!

[@todormia]

Excellent explanation! Beautifully said. I would add one more thing: there is reverse perspective in this icon (not all Orthodox icons have reverse perspective). In short, reverse perspective is different from linear, realistic perspective. Linear perspective shows objects as smaller as they got further. That is because we are watching it, and objects are becoming smaller in distance. In reverse perspective, it is different. The objects are becoming bigger as they are going further. We can see that in the bottom of the icon: the borders of the chairs are going not to the one imaginative spot in background, but they are crossing in us, on the other side of icon. What that theologically could mean is that the reverse perspective is God's perspective, and it relates like this: God- icon- human (the spot of object crossing fals on us). Furthermore, the objects and everything is becoming bigger in eternity (if we see, in this sence, icon as symbolic representation of eternity). Like our father, Saint Grigory of Nyssa said: word επέκτασις- in eternity everything is going eternally towards God's infinity. So, that just may symbolise importance of community in Orthodox Christianity.

[@ryanpadgett2549]

Wow I’m blown away. I’m new to iconography but I had no idea it was this expressive and deep! So many mysteries and symbolisms in one picture! Awesome intro brother and very excited to learn more about the Faith. Thank you sir and team 🎉❤

[@Patristix]

And this is just ONE of them! The world of iconography is just wonderful and we love it. Thanks for watching, mate!

[@gerardgrywacheski1418]

Thank you for this beautiful and uplifting video of Andrei Rublev's icon, which is one of my favorite icons to pray to during my moments of solitude. May God bless Andrei Rublev and the Holy Fathers of the First and Second Ecumenical Councils. Also may God bless you and your channel, and grant you many years.🙏

[@Patristix]

Thank you for the encouragement and prayer!

[@gerardgrywacheski1418]

@@Patristix You are so welcome!!

[@hotlanta35]

I saw the actual painting in Russia back in 2016, I think it was in Saint Petersburg

[@washedashore]

I love these videos! As a convert they are helping me learn about the faith. My kids love them as well. Thank you!

[@miketacos9034]

There is always even more meaning whenever I learn more about Orthodoxy. Thank you for this great video!

[@henridib7222]

This just became my favorite video of yours. Beautiful.

[@Patristix]

Wow thank you!

[@barbarathornton5920]

This was the best explanation of this icon I have ever heard. Thank you.

[@PoorSeraphim7]

I've always been drawn to the middle angel (who depicts Christ). He holds forth two fingers from his hand resting on the table. Perhaps representing the dual nature of Christ. Also, it's his right arm, as Christ will sit at the right hand of the Father. The angel representing the Holy Spirit points down as in that He will descend upon the Apostles at Pentecost and at every Liturgy.

[@cosmicnomad8575]

I’m a Catholic but I am a huge fan of Iconography and Eastern Art. This is one of my favorites. I recently got it for Christmas so this video is perfect. The theological depth of the artwork is beautiful!

[@FatherAndTeacherTV]

Always appreciate this ministry.

[@juradoalejandro5261]

Your best video so far! Completely fascinating!

[@photinisociety]

I learned so much. Beautiful episode as usual. Thank you.

[@michaelhealy1590]

What a great lesson. So much at the right time with feast of Holy Trinity next week

[@Pher00]

I'm not orthodox but after Easter I found myself interested in learning more about it. I just watched the Andrei Rublev biopic and now I'm here. Great explanation, thanks for your content! ☦

[@Patristix]

Thank you for watching and may God bless your learning!

[@birdlynn417]

This was so beautiful, thank you. I took notes all the way through, and noted what I had never known before. Now I can truly appreciate it so much more, and more to to think upon. 💛

[@mihakraev]

Я из России и я рад что на западе есть хоть какой-то интерес к восточному православному Христианству . Спасибо каналу! Thanks!

[@tommasocianti9308]

Not only interest my friend. We are converting in thousands every year. I am Orthodox Italian☦️☦️☦️

[@mihakraev]

@@tommasocianti9308 I am happy, dear friend!

[@PaperParade]

It’s been growing quickly here in the US! As for myself, I will be brought into the church in October :) ❤

[@nikkarel515]

@@PaperParade I don't know what to say except All Glory to God Allmighty!

[@nates_deathmetal_dungeon]

Incredible. Just discovered your channel. Will be back frequently! ☦️

[@HashimWarren]

Your love and passion comes through thr screen. Thank you

[@ameecallaghan7979]

From the very start of the introduction onwards this was epic. So much insight and the details never stopped coming, let alone being incredible. Wow!

[@Patristix]

AND there was more we couldn't fit in the episode! It's really stunning, and one of many beautiful and theology-rich icons. Love it! ❤️

[@cozzwozzle]

God bless your mother

[@Patristix]

Amen to that! Thanks for watching

[@lindaphillips4646]

​@@Patristixyes, Memory Eternal!

[@fruitfulmotherhood]

We were given a reproduction of the trinity icon for our wedding and it's my favourite in our family icon corner. Thanks for your thorough video about this special icons symbols.

[@Patristix]

It's an absolutely BEAUTIFUL image in so many ways!

[@jeanlanz2344]

Thank you for a loving presentation.

[@soare5182]

This information is truly amazing. Thank you ☦

[@TheMOV13]

I heard Fr. Thomas Hopko, of Blessed Memory, talking about this in one of his recorded talks on Ancient Faith Radio, it was amazing.

[@lindaphillips4646]

Don't underestimate the value of the work that you and your brother do. (Don't fall into pride, either, of course. ) Every thing that happens, even how calm and simple your set looks, allows us to relax and take quiet, deep breaths, and listen and absorb. Yes, was Pentecost, and i looked at the peacefulness of that icon with a new understanding. Yes, the Holy Spirit brings calmness and peace. Any time worship services do not exhibit that, it means they must be reconsidered and changed in some way.

[@moasaad]

Well done! 🙏🏻🕊️ Plz consider more videos explaining the depth & meaning of The other famous icons of Christ & St. Mary, etc.

[@firmbiz000]

Whoa simply amazing! ❤

[@rabbitvtwin6434]

Wow! That was terrific! Eye opening. Thank you very much for making this video! Peace to you!

[@andrewklados4096]

Incredible ! Mind blowing ! thank you brother in Christ. I will share this With everyone I know such depth what Love God is and has for us , we who are so unworthy ! Cannot thank you enough for doing this , 😊🙏🏻❤️✝️🌷

[@nomikoskardoulias4543]

Another amazing video 🙏

[@arkrou]

Love the iconography videos

[@aussiebloke51]

I (a non-orthodox) was privileged to see this Icon in the Tretyakov Gallery in 2008. At that time it was kept in a chapel behind perspex (to prevent and damage) and from memory you could buy candles to place before it as you prayed but you couldn't light the candles to prevent smoke damage and any fire damage in a museum. In 2014 I was fortunate enough to visit the Sergius-Trinity Monastery and see the inconastasis for which it was originally written. I see, now in 2024, Rublev's Icon of the Old Testament Trinity has now been returned to the Lavra. Maybe in the future I might get to Russia again and venerate it again in its rightful place.

[@cristinazaharescu6721]

Thank you! Amazing video

[@karenspivey3203]

I'm loving these videos!

[@Kinjiro]

Thank you so much for this fantastic explanation. I love this icon!

[@elenabucciarelli8474]

I was taught that Red is the Royal/Divine color and Blue is the Earthly/Human color. Mostly by comparing icons of Christ and the Theotokos. Christ wears the Red on inside and Blue outside because He is God and becomes a Man. The Theotokos has Blue undergarments and hair covering and wears a Red veil and garment on top because she was born human and puts on Divinity to bear Christ.

[@littlefishbigmountain]

In Hebrew Adam was named that because he was taken from the ground (adamah). Adam means red. Esau was also born red and the nation of his kin became known as Edom. Both Adam and Edom are spelled with the exact same letters in Hebrew, אדם

[@user-vv1do1wg1j]

thats a bit odd imo. back then that pigment of blue was very rare and sought after, very expensive, and was reserved only for the icons of Christ and Mary, as far as i know

[@urossavic5154]

I know this is a late answer but as far as I know you are right. This is how I learned it too. But perhaps this is like that on this Icon

[@StamfordBridge]

It’s fairly consistent in my experience that icons have blue - the color of the heavens - for divinity - and rusty red - an earth tone - for humanity.

[@brazilian_orthodox]

Red makes the blood, blue makes the sky

[@vodafoneshop2708]

Very nice video. Really interesting and short

[@Iniko-l8f]

thanks very much from ethiopia

[@haribo245]

Excellent presentation, please introduce them to those who do not yet know Orthodoxy enough, the icons not made by human hands. They will be fascinated.

[@steadfastgodcast]

Brilliant 👏

[@PatrickMetin]

Amazing content

[@kvatchman995]

I'm catholic and this is an excelent video

[@PeterBlackwood]

Thank you for your concise theological account of the hospitality icon. I have stood before the icon and photographed it. The pigments used for the outer garment of the left side angel (the Father) could be a translucent version of the red garment of the centre angel (the Son). If this is so then the theological suggestion could be that of the doctrine of the Son being of the same substance (homo ousios) of the Father. Yes, highlighted folds appear gold in colour. Rublev was a master of delicate blending. The pigment of the outer garment of the right side angel (the Spirit) is likely to be a translucent yellow or gold colour. Laying this on the blue makes it appear green. Deeper folds of the garment are certainly a yellow colour.

[@makingsmokesince76]

Deep. Thank you.

[@jjaffa]

We need your mother's lecture! Thank you.

[@aurorelambert2728]

Incredible ❤

[@jasonbryan3135]

Thank you! Is there an online resource explaining every icon?

[@selemonkahasu1189]

How could I get this icon ? Please recommendation ?

[@mcschneiveoutdoors3681]

THANK YOU!!!!! 👍👍🙏

[@a1cRobertson]

And for bonus content you're going to include your mom's lecture, right? Right? Please say yes! 🥺

[@danmocanu]

Thank you immensely for this enlightening adventure! Just one more question... Do Jesus' feet point towards us, representing one foot of the Father and the other of the Holy Spirit?

[@LizCanKnit]

Is there a good video on the EO view of the Trinity and the Filioque heresy? I am a an inquirer and my husband is not having it with EO. I like your videos because of the bite size explanations. Anything longer and he dismisses the content outright.

[@HomoEucharistica]

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[@HomoEucharistica]

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[@alexanderreichenfeld6859]

this was good

[@hellie_el]

❤❤❤

[@IAMRYGAR]

3 ingredient tea for the 3 in 1 God

[@Patristix]

Yes!! Glad someone noticed!

[@KirstinParker-iw8fr]

✝️🙏!!

[@AaronPLehmann]

That's interesting. I had been taught that Red was divine and Blue was human. So, the icon of Christ behind you has blue on top because Christ put aside His glory and put on flesh. The icons of the Theotokos have red over the top because the Holy Spirit overshadowed her. Is that a matter of colors meaning different things in different icons? If not, what does the red over blue mean in icons of the Theotokos? Does it just refer to the fact that she bore God in her womb?

[@Patristix]

Traditionally red is humanity, blue is divine. Hence why the Father AND the Spirit both are wearing blue here as well as the Son. Only the Son has red. The Theotokos wears red traditionally as she is human. Her inner garment is often blue or green and represents a presence of the divine within her. But the rule of colours is not always the same between icons and yes, can mean different things. We're planning a lot more videos down the road.

[@melissacleaveland4025]

I love this video. Thank you for your videos. Where can I learn more about the symbolism/theology in iconography?

[@logicaredux5205]

I have always been confused by this icon. I thought the theological justification for depicting the Son was because in the Incarnation, He became man, and thus was depict able. But the Father and the Holy Spirit were incomprehensible and thus needed to be portrayed with symbolism and not an image.

[@Patristix]

As you see in the video, in this icon they are ALL portrayed symbolically through the story of Abraham and the angels. The depiction is a Bible story, the lessons are deeply theological

[@zach415]

Normally in icons, halos of Jesus have the crucifix in them. Why doesn’t Jesus have the crucifix in his halo in this icon?

[@ilauvu]

too much wisdom 😅 , God bless you 🫶

[@laurencewainwright]

Please remove the filter that tries to make the video look like old film. It's very irritating and detracts from the excellent information you are presenting.

[@nikkarel515]

In Orthodoxy the red colour represents the Divine nature of Christ and the blue the human one. Not the other way around. With kind regards.

[@Patristix]

There is no strict ruling on iconographic colour in Orthodoxy. Traditionally, blue has been divine and red humanity. This is certainly the case in traditional Slavic iconography and definitely in this Trinity icon in which blue is the unifying colour of divinity for all three angels. Red is only present in the figure of the Son, the only one with Divinity AND humanity. However in the Christ Pantocrator icon, a case can be made for the opposite way around as red was often a colour in Byzantine times for royalty and ruling. But even in the Pantocrator icons, the rule of colours is not strict and either version works theologically.

[@lindaphillips4646]

Don't underestimate the value of the work that you and your brother do. (Don't fall into pride, either, of course. ) Every thing that happens, even how calm and simple your set looks, allows us to relax and take quiet, deep breaths, and listen and absorb. Yes, was Pentecost, and i looked at the peacefulness of that icon with a new understanding. Yes, the Holy Spirit brings calmness and peace. Any time worship services do not exhibit that, it means they must be reconsidered and changed in some way.